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I Am All In…Again: A lot of Teenage Angst (Season 2 E15 “Lost and Found”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh, let's I am all
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Speaker 1: in again with Scott Patterson in iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey Everybody,
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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast one eleven productions,
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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast Season two, episode fifteen, Lost and
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Speaker 1: Found Episode recap with somebody who I know You are
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Speaker 1: familiar with. Patrica Darbo as an actress and producer with
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Speaker 1: a career spanning over four decades countum four. She is
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Speaker 1: known for her roles in soap opera's like Days of
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Speaker 1: Our Lives, Bold and Beautiful, and was most recently in
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Speaker 1: a new movie Lulu. She had a fabulous guest appearance
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Speaker 1: on Gilmore Girls as a waitress in season two episode twenty.
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Speaker 1: Help Wanted, but it is here today? Recap Season two,
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Speaker 1: episode fifteen. As I just stated, Lost and Found, Patrica, welcome,
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's do a synopsis. Jess, Luke and Jess
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Speaker 1: start to feel cramped by all the stuff overtaking their
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Speaker 1: small apartment. Roy tries to convince Laura La to hire
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Speaker 1: Jess to clean out out there rain gutters. Meanwhile, De
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Speaker 1: notices that Rory isn't wearing the bracelet he made for her.
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you right off the top. You've
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Speaker 1: had such an amazing career, a part of so many projects.
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Speaker 1: How did disappearance in Gilmore Girls land in your lap? Oh?
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Speaker 2: I offered to pay for it me too. No, I
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Speaker 2: mean I did go to the audition, and at that
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Speaker 2: time it was an in person audition, and anyway, they said,
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Speaker 2: I said, I brought my checkbook. I'll pay for this role.
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Speaker 2: I mean, because I love the show as so many
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Speaker 2: fans have, and the fact that now we get to
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Speaker 2: see the re runs it's even more fun. Yeah. Up, Yes,
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Speaker 2: I did offer. I guess I was the best or
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Speaker 2: maybe they did want to check me. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: But anyway, I got the part, so and I didn't
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Speaker 2: have to pay for it.
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Speaker 1: That is that's a really brilliant way to go into
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Speaker 1: a room, I think. I mean, it's either it's not
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Speaker 1: like sucking up. You use humor to say listen, I'll
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Speaker 1: pay you. That's just it's just such a compliment, right.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think so. And I think those kind
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Speaker 2: of auditions were so helpful in hiring. And I'm not
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Speaker 2: tooting mount hornor hiring the best because you knew right
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Speaker 2: away you wanted to work with me. Because I had
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Speaker 2: a sense of humor, and those in person things where
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Speaker 2: the producer was there and the casting director and people
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Speaker 2: could say, could you try it this time, but do this,
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Speaker 2: pick up this or something. So those in person auditions
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Speaker 2: were so great other than just being here with a
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Speaker 2: camera acting to that camera there with nobody's there.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it affects the overall quality of shows. Now.
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Speaker 1: They're not nailing the casting in a lot of situations.
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Speaker 2: I think. So it's you know, who's most popular, Well,
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Speaker 2: they might be most popular for this show, but not
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Speaker 2: for that show. So it's it's that kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Jess, boy, it's all anyway. Gilman Cuso directed.
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Speaker 1: Amy Sherman Palladino wrote this episode, we're going to talk
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Speaker 1: about rain gutters. The Gilmour girls needed their rain gutters
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Speaker 1: cleaned out. After Laura I gets are trying to clean
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Speaker 1: them herself, Luke suggests hiring Jess to clean them. Laura
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Speaker 1: I agrees after Rory pleads were there to give Jess
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Speaker 1: a chance. Rory asked Jess why he is so short
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Speaker 1: with Laurelai, not why he is so short, but short
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Speaker 1: with Laura I. All right. She says that if he
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Speaker 1: cares about it all. He will be polite to Laura
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Speaker 1: I Jess smirks and asks, well, he's good at smirking.
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Speaker 1: He's so good at all those little facial.
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Speaker 2: And you do want to slap sometimes, right.
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Speaker 1: Jess smarks and asks Rory what makes her think he
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Speaker 1: cares about her?
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Speaker 2: Boy, I tell you a lot of angst in this show,
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Speaker 2: a lot of angst.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Patrika, have you ever had
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Speaker 1: a home improvement disaster? Do you relate to this to
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Speaker 1: his I'll just do it myself.
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Speaker 2: The part of it, yes, I've related that where you
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Speaker 2: have to call somebody to come back in and fix
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Speaker 2: what you tried to do yourself. But I think finding
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Speaker 2: that I like ike in there was one of the
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Speaker 2: funniest things, cleaning out that cutter.
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Speaker 1: That was fun right, that was funny. Laurela is not
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Speaker 1: a fan of Jess. Why do you think or what
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Speaker 1: do you think Rory sees in jests that Laurelai doesn't.
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Speaker 2: I think Rory sees the intelligence, the reading, the the
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Speaker 2: difference between one boy going to Lord of the Rings
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Speaker 2: and the other boy like, let's read this, you know,
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Speaker 2: And she's so in education, so it's very you see
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Speaker 2: what's coming.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that one line she said to Dean,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'd see this movie one hundred times. We're
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Speaker 1: taking everything very literally literally. Yes, it was just sort
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Speaker 1: of that's the relationship in a nutshell, and you know
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Speaker 1: it's not going to work out if she's if she's
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Speaker 1: gonna snark him like that. You know, that's that doesn't
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Speaker 1: have long to go.
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of sad because you're so attached to
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Speaker 2: the characters, especially you know Laurie. I mean she's she's
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Speaker 2: everybody's daughter friend, thing like that, and you don't want
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Speaker 2: her to see it get hurt. And you do see
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Speaker 2: the that last scene I think when Laurli goes after
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Speaker 2: him about you know, this is the most precious thing
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Speaker 2: to her and then he stops her. Well, she lost
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Speaker 2: her for two weeks before she noticed. Maybe you got
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Speaker 2: to I mean you go, oh, the writing on the walls,
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Speaker 2: come in here. This is not good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame Laurla. I mean, I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is a daydangerous kid anyway. It's like that, that's a
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Speaker 1: dangerous kid for anybody's daughter. And whether it's you know,
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Speaker 1: an unwanted pregnancy or whether it's you know, actual physical
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Speaker 1: harm because this guy didn't take care of something and
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Speaker 1: there's a car accident, which I think has got Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean she's just being a mama bear.
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Speaker 2: I mean I think that, and I think at times,
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Speaker 2: because of her age, I think she relates to that
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Speaker 2: hurt herself, you know, being that sixteen year old and
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Speaker 2: so in love and then having somebody throw shade on
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Speaker 2: it is not a good thing, right, But I like
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Speaker 2: to talk about you, Snehi.
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Speaker 1: Do you really think Rory likes the attention from Jess.
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Speaker 1: I think she does, right.
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Speaker 2: I mean I think she is. I think she likes
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Speaker 2: the fact that they can sit and talk for hours
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Speaker 2: about a book and talk about education or just a
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Speaker 2: particular author that they both like, whereas Lord of the
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Speaker 2: Rings is so is starting to make her look at
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Speaker 2: things different.
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Speaker 1: Well, mother, Jess and larel I are butting heads. Do
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Speaker 1: you think it's a little inappropriate, maybe on moralized end
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Speaker 1: or I think she validated. I think we talked about this.
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Speaker 1: I think she has every right and to call him
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Speaker 1: a little jerk. Sure he was being a little jerk.
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Speaker 1: He was being disrespectful to.
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Speaker 2: You know, but I think I think when Rory talks
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Speaker 2: about the fact about the bracelets missing and hears all
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Speaker 2: that going on, that he realizes that that she she's
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Speaker 2: really hurt. I mean, the mere fact that he would
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Speaker 2: take it. I think it shows that he doesn't quite
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Speaker 2: like Dean.
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Speaker 1: So mm hmmm, yeah, he's just he's you know, all's
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Speaker 1: fair in love and war?
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well, I think so. But I think Dean
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Speaker 2: hasn't read orn Vice or anything, so it's gonna be
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Speaker 2: kind of weird going on there.
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Speaker 1: Right right, Well, Roy gets a little embarrassed and stumbles
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Speaker 1: on her words when Jess as why she thinks he
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Speaker 1: cares about her, and then she walks away.
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Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, I think that's the teenage thing
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Speaker 2: where she doesn't know how that's the you know, where
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Speaker 2: it's easy to talk to Deane because Dean doesn't is
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Speaker 2: not that biting talking back and forth and education all mean,
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Speaker 2: all the books and stuff they've read, and suddenly this
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Speaker 2: man that she really kind of likes, but she still
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Speaker 2: loves Dean. There's that difference. And anyway, I think that
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Speaker 2: that that's that teenage angst that well, I don't even
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Speaker 2: care for me that way. I mean, like like like
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Speaker 2: you would care for a puppy you know that that
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Speaker 2: you know, that kind of thing. She doesn't know exactly
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Speaker 2: how to handle it. And remember too, I mean, Dean
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Speaker 2: is really the first person she's dated, right, you know,
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Speaker 2: so m just.
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Speaker 1: Like uh, comparison comes to mind between Dean and Jess.
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Speaker 1: Dean seems very structured. He wants to do this, and
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Speaker 1: then he wants to do the movie, and then after
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Speaker 1: that they can go do this and do you want
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Speaker 1: to do that Rory, and she yes, sure, let's do
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Speaker 1: that structure. And Jess is more kind of like, you know,
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Speaker 1: anything goes, you know, it's a sea of possibilities with Jess, right,
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Speaker 1: isn't it good or bad? But therein lies the excitement.
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Speaker 2: I think it's the difference between let's go to college
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Speaker 2: together and let's start a business and someone who says, honey,
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Speaker 2: I'm home, what's for dinner? Right, It's those that economy
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Speaker 2: between the two of them. Let's you know, get on
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Speaker 2: the back of my bike and let's go to Big
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Speaker 2: Bear for the weekend. And no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: this is what we have planned, Pete. So on Friday
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Speaker 2: night we're gonna have Chinese, you know.
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Speaker 1: Right, All right, well, let's go on to Luke's apartment hunting.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of Luca this, a lot of Luke
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Speaker 1: in this episode, a lot of Luke rants. This was
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Speaker 1: particularly Ranti Luke this episode. He's struggling to adjust to
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Speaker 1: Jess moving into a small apartment and Jess go hunting
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Speaker 1: for a new place. Luke calls Lorelei for a second
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Speaker 1: opinion on her apartment. He's really frustrated. He doesn't know
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Speaker 1: what to do. The realtor refers to Luke to then
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Speaker 1: they go and see the apartment and Luke is referred
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Speaker 1: to by the realtor's lorealized husband, So they do that
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Speaker 1: funny little bit and she goes along with it. This
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Speaker 1: is why it was so great working with her. She
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Speaker 1: had such freedom in what she did, and she had
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Speaker 1: so much fun. She's so good at comedy, you know,
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Speaker 1: and her timing is just like you know, well.
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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the nicest things about the
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Speaker 2: show in general, is that everybody it is connected in
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Speaker 2: such a way because you know what she's going to say,
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Speaker 2: she knows what it's like this and I think that's
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Speaker 2: Amy's writing and the christness of it. Back and forth
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Speaker 2: like that, but the timing for both of you delivering
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Speaker 2: those lines. As an actor, it's boom boom.
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Speaker 1: It was exciting.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, and you're like, what's going on and
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Speaker 2: the little quips that come in between, and I can't
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Speaker 2: think of any right this moment, but this like, okay,
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Speaker 2: fish for dinner and I don't know where she pulls
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Speaker 2: face nowhere? You know, Okay, you can put curtains, what
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Speaker 2: you'll get hot, No, we won't do this. You like,
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Speaker 2: you do need two bathrooms, that kind of thing. So
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Speaker 2: it's but it was all just very timing wise.
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Speaker 1: Great, great, Yeah, that was always the challenge, and the
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Speaker 1: writing did kind of I'm not I don't. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say it made it easy, but it made
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Speaker 1: it a lot easier.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think so there are times as actors
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Speaker 2: you can say you can learn lines faster when they're
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Speaker 2: they're like you speak to one another versus how you
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Speaker 2: read something like that and I'm sorry I cut you off.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, go ahead, We're here to listen
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Speaker 1: to you.
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Speaker 2: I think the quistness of the writing again is like that,
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Speaker 2: but again the delivery has to be there. And it's
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Speaker 2: one of those shows that everybody wanted to do, but
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Speaker 2: everybody was afraid of the audition because what's the timing
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Speaker 2: of my character yet, because I don't know her yet.
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Speaker 2: You know, mine is like giving us the little coffee
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Speaker 2: cup when I did the thing, which was a dema task.
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Speaker 2: But you serve a fish bowl for them. So but
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Speaker 2: it's that kind of thing. So when you went to audition,
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Speaker 2: you were like, oh god, oh god, maybe I should
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Speaker 2: just pay for this. It's great.
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Speaker 1: Well, Laura like and visus Luke to sign the lease.
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Speaker 1: She tells him to be open to the opportunity more
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Speaker 1: and adds that if he wants to take a lady
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Speaker 1: friend home, he's going to need a bigger place. Well,
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Speaker 1: Luke's just trying to do a good thing by getting
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Speaker 1: dressed himself more privacy. But but Jess continues with the
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Speaker 1: bad attitude. Do you do you feel bad for Luke
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Speaker 1: at this point?
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Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for Luke. I mean I am
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Speaker 2: as a viewer and as a as a woman, I'm
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Speaker 2: like going like this, what are you talking about? Other women?
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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? What are you? Are you
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Speaker 2: out of your mind? What's fazy part? You know? But
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Speaker 2: then again that's how their friendship is. It's like their
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Speaker 2: friends first so everybody was always hoping that that was
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Speaker 2: you're the pair and stuff like that, though you're you
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Speaker 2: know different. I mean, it's kind of like ice and heat.
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Speaker 2: There's no way that you got especially especially when you
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Speaker 2: ordered that Sunday and that didn't eat it because of
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Speaker 2: you're frustration about that. I mean, there were so many
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Speaker 2: cute things in there about that, but you're as a
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Speaker 2: as a viewer and a fan. I'm screaming, what are
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Speaker 2: you talking about? Other women? We just got rid of
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Speaker 2: that other one.
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Speaker 1: Well, you can really feel the Luke's frustration through the
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Speaker 1: screen about the apartment and what a message is and
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Speaker 1: his struggle to find a new one. Can you relate
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Speaker 1: to this kind of frustration, Patrika?
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Speaker 2: Well, I could probably show you my dining room table
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Speaker 2: right this moment. You know, my frustration about where is
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Speaker 2: this called? What's that? Why did the dogs would get
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Speaker 2: here so soon? I got to find place? So yes,
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Speaker 2: I could relate to that. I as much as I
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Speaker 2: have a clutter around like this, Nothing like that room
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Speaker 2: that he was sleeping in and how he slept with
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Speaker 2: that music is another thing for me. And I have
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Speaker 2: to tell you the little black and white television with
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Speaker 2: the coat hangar things. I mean, I don't think kids
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Speaker 2: remember rabbit ears are putting, you know, tenfoil and things.
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Speaker 2: There was just such a lovely little touch of who
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Speaker 2: you are.
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Speaker 1: That was everybody's college dorm room when I was in college.
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Speaker 1: It's the tiny little TV with the rabbit ears and
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Speaker 1: the tinfoil that you'd.
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Speaker 2: Worked all summer long to pay for so you could
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Speaker 2: bring it.
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Speaker 1: Right exactly, Why do you think, Patrika, and I'm really
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Speaker 1: interested to hear your opinion on this. What makes this
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Speaker 1: on screen loc and Loreli relationship so compelling? Why is
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Speaker 1: it so compelling? Besides the right, I.
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Speaker 2: Think it's because, again, your total opposites and opposite to attract.
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Speaker 2: I mean, like this and as the outsider looking in
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Speaker 2: for me, I'm going, would you both open up your eyes?
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Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? But at the same time, the
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Speaker 2: other part of me's going, oh, this friendship is too
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Speaker 2: perfect to ruin my grandmother, to be ashamed to spoil
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Speaker 2: two houses with you. So you know it's that kind
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Speaker 2: of thing fire and ice again, though you want it,
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Speaker 2: you know that it be disastrous.
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Speaker 1: Right right? Potentially disastrous?
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, I guess because we can't see
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Speaker 2: the future. But again, though every part of you goes
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Speaker 2: you want them together, but you don't want them together.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many guys out there wish they'd
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Speaker 1: taken their shot, right, you got to take your shot.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think so. I think other people find that
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Speaker 2: they you know, they screwed up. And I don't know
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Speaker 2: if Laura lies, if she's sown enough. No, it's because
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Speaker 2: she was sixteen when she had Laurie and she's become
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Speaker 2: a mother, so she's never a nightclub and done all
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Speaker 2: this stuff, though they did some, you know, I'm sure
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Speaker 2: she had a few dates and stuff out there before
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Speaker 2: this happened, but her parents are not, Let's go to
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Speaker 2: the car hop at night, Like, what is a hot dog?
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Speaker 2: I've never had? What is that? You know, all those
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Speaker 2: different things that happened in the show.
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Speaker 1: How she went to the she went from the country
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Speaker 1: club to Stars Hollow, yep.
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Speaker 2: And I'm all the better for it, yep. But I
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Speaker 2: think there's a sadness, not in this particular episode, but
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Speaker 2: the sadness about she missed out on a lot of stuff,
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Speaker 2: and I think that's some of the resentment between her
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Speaker 2: and her mother.
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Speaker 1: You know, Rory's bracelet, how did this come off to you?
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Speaker 1: Did you think that they were making too much out
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Speaker 1: of the bracelet, they were just trying to get too
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Speaker 1: much milk out of this cow?
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Speaker 2: No, not really, I mean for me, I mean sometimes
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Speaker 2: you can, but basically I think it was the well
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Speaker 2: Roy's if you care for me to one gentleman, I mean,
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Speaker 2: she's confused, but at this point that meant the world
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Speaker 2: to her. And as a young woman myself, which I
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Speaker 2: have to go by my feelings, if I had something
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Speaker 2: that my boyfriend gave me and suddenly I couldn't find it,
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Speaker 2: I would be just like Rory. I would be throwing
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Speaker 2: things around trying to find it. I mean just my
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Speaker 2: house would be spotless because I would go through every
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Speaker 2: newk and cranny to find it.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: I mean I remember losing a charm one time that
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Speaker 2: a friend, not a boyfriend, had given me and I
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Speaker 2: was devastated. That charm meant a lot to me, and
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Speaker 2: it meant a lot to her to give that to me.
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Speaker 2: So I don't think so as a teenage girl, no,
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Speaker 2: that reaction is perfect, okay, mister no teenage boy? Fine,
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Speaker 2: thank you.
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Speaker 1: When she said that line to Dean at the book fair,
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Speaker 1: that you. I see, we're taking things quite literally. Yes today, Okay.
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Speaker 1: To me, that meant that she was over it. She
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Speaker 1: was bored. I don't know how she can say that
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Speaker 1: even under her breath, and it was and it was
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Speaker 1: kind of loud enough for him to hear it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think she intentionally said it, and I
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Speaker 2: think that that's that's it's kind of an awakening, awake,
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Speaker 2: an awakening for her.
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Speaker 1: Well why is she? But the thing is starting to interrupt,
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Speaker 1: But it's almost an opportunity to to fan the flames
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Speaker 1: with the Rory Jess thing. If she doesn't care so
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Speaker 1: much about looking for the bracelet and her mother and Laura,
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Speaker 1: I notices that, why don't you care? You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can look at it. I can look
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Speaker 2: at it that way. The fact that she she's wanting,
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Speaker 2: she's seeing a different light and Dean that has always
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Speaker 2: been there, but this is the first time she's really
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Speaker 2: kind of thought, this is my life. Watching Lord of
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Speaker 2: the Rings every episode every Friday night or and Saturday
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Speaker 2: night too, We'll watch the neck outlet. So but at
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Speaker 2: the same time, she still cares for him a lot,
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Speaker 2: and I think losing the bracelet was like almost facing
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Speaker 2: the fact that there is a difference sixteen. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. In other ways, why am
19:17
Speaker 2: I so attached to my bracelet and stuff like that?
19:20
Speaker 2: When he wants to watch I think there's a lot
19:22
Speaker 2: of teenage inks going through there. It's things that I
19:26
Speaker 2: think the show was so nice, in the fact that
19:29
Speaker 2: everybody was on their cell phones all the time, and
19:33
Speaker 2: you know that people were sitting down at the dinner
19:35
Speaker 2: table talking to one another, and even you know, tonight
19:38
Speaker 2: we're gonna eat things you don't even want to know about,
19:40
Speaker 2: sitting on our sofa watching this movie we've watched twenty times,
19:44
Speaker 2: Mother and Daughter versus.
19:47
Speaker 1: I mean, really, if you were to create a modern
19:50
Speaker 1: television show that depicted real life, it would people be
19:54
Speaker 1: sitting around looking at their phones.
19:55
Speaker 2: And every single okay, yeah, okay, I to my it would.
20:01
Speaker 1: Be yeah, nobody talks to one another.
20:05
Speaker 2: Of course, at this point, everybody talks with abbreviations, and
20:08
Speaker 2: you can't figure out what the hell's going on. And
20:11
Speaker 2: I'm an older woman though I look damn good, but
20:13
Speaker 2: I understand any of this stuff. I had to call
20:17
Speaker 2: emergency going. I can't get in I can't get in
20:19
Speaker 2: while I was three minutes early but late according to
20:22
Speaker 2: my phone. But anyway, now it's crazy.
20:25
Speaker 1: We know Jess took the bracelet from the bridge when
20:31
Speaker 1: Rory dropped it, and laurle I catches him coming out
20:38
Speaker 1: of Rory's bedroom, so she knows he planted it back
20:42
Speaker 1: in there after getting a case of the guilts, and
20:44
Speaker 1: she confronts him.
20:45
Speaker 2: About it, and deservedly, you know.
20:48
Speaker 1: And he asked Laurlai how the bracelet could be so
20:52
Speaker 1: important to Rory if it took her two weeks to
20:55
Speaker 1: notice it was gone. Yeah, that's like boom, and he says,
21:02
Speaker 1: he to Laurela, you might want to reevaluate how madly
21:07
Speaker 1: in love Rory is. And that's when orl I kind
21:12
Speaker 1: of gets edgued with.
21:13
Speaker 2: She gets edgi with him at that point, but she can't.
21:16
Speaker 2: I mean I think she's I think his attitude, the
21:19
Speaker 2: way he is has turned her off from the very beginning.
21:23
Speaker 2: I mean, his sharpness, he's no wanting to talk, his
21:26
Speaker 2: you know, glib tongue and what did he say when
21:29
Speaker 2: he came out of the shower or something, by my
21:31
Speaker 2: hair just wouldn't puff today or something. It's all about
21:35
Speaker 2: him leaving the house still a mess, and I quite
21:38
Speaker 2: don't know why you were putting up with it. But
21:40
Speaker 2: it's okay.
21:41
Speaker 1: Well, he's you know, everybody's abandoned him. He's had to
21:45
Speaker 1: raise himself and he's not doing a great job.
21:49
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I mean, I think books
21:52
Speaker 2: are his escape place, a safe place, and then to
21:56
Speaker 2: find Rory's read the same books and stuff and somebody
21:59
Speaker 2: he can sort of talk to about here read this
22:01
Speaker 2: book and she goes, oh, well, thank you very much.
22:03
Speaker 2: If the book becomes the bracelet, if that makes any sense,
22:09
Speaker 2: I mean I think that truly, that book. It means
22:12
Speaker 2: the world to her that she just got and the bracelet,
22:15
Speaker 2: and she's she's in this position right now, not knowing
22:18
Speaker 2: which way to jump.
22:19
Speaker 1: So Laurala I asked Luke if he thinks anything is
22:23
Speaker 1: going on between Justin Rory. Luke says he doesn't. Nobody
22:25
Speaker 1: thinks worry would be great for you. Yes, yes, well
22:32
Speaker 1: you know, Dean seems to be nagging Rory about her
22:35
Speaker 1: every move in this episode. What do you think about
22:37
Speaker 1: this relationship?
22:39
Speaker 2: Very controlling, very controlling, and that again like honey, I'm home,
22:43
Speaker 2: what's for supper? Where are my slippers? You know, that
22:46
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I mean a little his way of
22:49
Speaker 2: thinking is a little old fashioned. And again he'd rather
22:54
Speaker 2: watch a movie than read a book. So I mean,
22:58
Speaker 2: I think the whole thing where he talks about the fact, no,
23:01
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes you were over there, but it's been two
23:04
Speaker 2: hours I've been sitting here, you know. And then when
23:07
Speaker 2: she points out the fact that there's observatory books, the
23:11
Speaker 2: science books over here, she hadn't even looked at yet,
23:13
Speaker 2: and he says, go ahead, and well, then we'll watch
23:16
Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings and then we'll do this. So
23:18
Speaker 2: he's bartering at the same.
23:19
Speaker 1: Time, What advice would you give Jess to get Rory's attention?
23:24
Speaker 1: What do you think you should do at this point? Wow?
23:26
Speaker 2: I mean that's more. That's more of it. That's kind
23:28
Speaker 2: of a question for you. As as the male thing here.
23:31
Speaker 2: For me, I think he needs to stop with the
23:35
Speaker 2: smart ally key things and be honest about feelings and
23:41
Speaker 2: it's coming. But I think he's so closed off. He's
23:46
Speaker 2: afraid to get there's a fear of getting too attached
23:49
Speaker 2: to Rory, even though he's trying everything in his power
23:53
Speaker 2: to sort of break up. So he can ask her out.
23:56
Speaker 1: How about if he wrote a poem about Rory and
23:58
Speaker 1: gave it to her, that that'd be a move, right.
24:02
Speaker 2: That would be a good bye Dean moves.
24:04
Speaker 1: That would be a good the pub of the poem
24:09
Speaker 1: as weapon. All Right, Taylor drops the bomb that he
24:14
Speaker 1: owns the building that Luke wanted to rent from. And
24:18
Speaker 1: isn't Michael Winners just wonderful?
24:21
Speaker 2: Isn't he just he's the best I'm gonna have plates?
24:25
Speaker 2: Who wants to plate? You can't have that sign there
24:27
Speaker 2: with the plates?
24:28
Speaker 1: I mean right? And that he wants to buy the
24:31
Speaker 1: flower shop next to Luke's diner. Luke's just like lulling
24:35
Speaker 1: a gasket at this point.
24:36
Speaker 2: Uh well, the fact he wants his father's hardware sign
24:40
Speaker 2: turned down kind of shows who Luke is too. He
24:43
Speaker 2: likes that, I think the the familiarity of family, and
24:48
Speaker 2: that's that's something that's never coming down unless he's dead
24:52
Speaker 2: out front with the other sign hanging office, there's no
24:55
Speaker 2: way you're gonna give that sign up ever. Yeah, but
24:58
Speaker 2: I love the fascist I'm going It's unbelievable. You know.
25:03
Speaker 1: Luke just eventually buys the building and puts the hole
25:07
Speaker 1: through a wall in his apartment tells j just this,
25:09
Speaker 1: this is real and and it's I love when laural
25:13
Speaker 1: I opens the door and Luke says, I just spent
25:16
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars. It's all year, it's your fault.
25:23
Speaker 2: But after this whole rating and ranting like this, would
25:25
Speaker 2: you like some tea.
25:27
Speaker 1: Right right right right now? But it's like, you know again,
25:32
Speaker 1: the writing is so delicious. It's a full meal. Those
25:38
Speaker 1: scenes were so much fun, not not just to read
25:42
Speaker 1: and table read, but to rehearse them because you know,
25:45
Speaker 1: you it's God, I miss that show. I miss working
25:51
Speaker 1: at that level, you know, because you don't get that
25:55
Speaker 1: you know, it just it just doesn't come around very often.
25:57
Speaker 1: And man, just such a pleasure to.
26:02
Speaker 2: It's little things like Kurt sixty two cents get out
26:05
Speaker 2: of here, Kurt, right, I mean those little subtle things
26:08
Speaker 2: like that that go in and out of that whole
26:10
Speaker 2: thing and back to where it. So the I like
26:12
Speaker 2: Ike button in the when did you last clean these?
26:15
Speaker 2: I found out like I like Ike? So we just
26:18
Speaker 2: clever little things like that. And the funny part about
26:21
Speaker 2: it is half of the audience probably didn't know who
26:23
Speaker 2: Ike was.
26:24
Speaker 1: Right, have you Patrika, have you ever made a spur
26:28
Speaker 1: of the moment purchased like that, like Luke.
26:30
Speaker 2: Did off on a pair of shoes that went like, hello,
26:34
Speaker 2: don't walk away, come back here, look at me at colors. Yes,
26:38
Speaker 2: I've done that, going yeah, I.
26:41
Speaker 1: Uh, I know what that's like. But Luke buys the
26:44
Speaker 1: whole building for him and Jess to have more space.
26:47
Speaker 1: What do you think about the love shown through frustration
26:50
Speaker 1: throughout the whole episode.
26:51
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's that whole thing, and you also
26:54
Speaker 2: see how he did it on the spur of the moment.
26:56
Speaker 2: Yet somewhere in the back of his mind he was
26:58
Speaker 2: not taken down his dad's signs and he didn't want
27:00
Speaker 2: stinky plates next door to right whatsoever. It's just everything
27:06
Speaker 2: weaves together. That's I think that's her amy, the fact
27:10
Speaker 2: that it's a glib everything is sharp dialogue wise. But
27:14
Speaker 2: then also the characters are so interwoven that you you
27:17
Speaker 2: recognize everybody and you're going, where's the guy that sings
27:20
Speaker 2: on the street, And let's not talk about Miss Patty
27:22
Speaker 2: driving back there with a cigarette and hand one two
27:25
Speaker 2: the way we go, you want your bady gone, light
27:27
Speaker 2: me up, Light me up. I mean just the whole
27:30
Speaker 2: town that she created was just incredible and missed and missed.
27:45
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this funny behind the scene
27:48
Speaker 1: moments on the set.
27:49
Speaker 2: Do you remember anything, No, I just remember being terrified
27:52
Speaker 2: that I was. I mean, it truly isn't when you're
27:56
Speaker 2: when you're coming into a show that you First of all,
27:58
Speaker 2: the first thing you do as a supporting actor coming
28:02
Speaker 2: into a show is you go, please God, let these
28:05
Speaker 2: people I love be nice. That's the first thing. And
28:11
Speaker 2: of course working with the two ladies, they were darling.
28:13
Speaker 2: Everything was great, the crew and stuff. We didn't get
28:15
Speaker 2: to have any interaction and stuff like that, but it
28:18
Speaker 2: was basically the astonishment of the waitress and that's my episode,
28:25
Speaker 2: so we don't want to talk about that. But I
28:27
Speaker 2: was terrified through the whole thing that I was going
28:29
Speaker 2: to do something wrong or something. You know, that kind
28:30
Speaker 2: of thing you go like, you're always saying yourself, I'm talented, crave, intelligent,
28:34
Speaker 2: I can handle this, and then you get on the
28:36
Speaker 2: set and you go brain dead or you're like, so like,
28:39
Speaker 2: my god, okay, my line is coming. My line is coming.
28:41
Speaker 2: It's almost time. Hi there. That's kind of things like that,
28:44
Speaker 2: But nothing really because we had a very short, nice
28:47
Speaker 2: little fun scene, so we really didn't have anything going
28:51
Speaker 2: on behind us at this point. I think those are
28:55
Speaker 2: the fun. You probably have more to share about what happened,
28:58
Speaker 2: especially knocking a hole in that wall, because I'm sure
29:00
Speaker 2: that was one take.
29:01
Speaker 1: So one of my favorite scenes to shoot. Because we
29:06
Speaker 1: never we talk so much. You never got to do
29:08
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You never love got to do actions,
29:11
Speaker 1: and that was an action, you know, something to do.
29:16
Speaker 1: I just enjoyed that scene, and I love how they
29:19
Speaker 1: cut it together, and I love the music they chose,
29:21
Speaker 1: and it was just a really fun scene to watch.
29:24
Speaker 2: Well, even I mean when when she's trying to convince
29:27
Speaker 2: you that you need apartment to go the mere fact
29:29
Speaker 2: that now you've bought the building. Because that interaction with Taylor,
29:32
Speaker 2: I mean, the writing is so crisp, and you really
29:35
Speaker 2: got some good ranting. I guess those are the best.
29:40
Speaker 1: I don't know if you, I don't know if you
29:42
Speaker 1: could have dealt with lanting, ranting Luke every single episode,
29:46
Speaker 1: but every once in a while it's It's It's fun,
29:48
Speaker 1: isn't it.
29:49
Speaker 2: But I think that I think your character is so
29:51
Speaker 2: fun because you're like a curmudgeon, but you're not get out.
29:56
Speaker 2: We're closed now, finish up, get out time with you people.
30:00
Speaker 1: So those kind of things that you do just a
30:03
Speaker 1: typical Northeastern dude.
30:06
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not Northeast, you'd be net Waffle.
30:11
Speaker 1: Trust me, typical Northeastern dude. I grew up with guys
30:16
Speaker 1: like that. Well, look, let's talk about your career, starting
30:21
Speaker 1: so many series, and you're most famously known for roles
30:24
Speaker 1: in sitcom Step by Step Days of Our Lives. What
30:28
Speaker 1: would you say have been the highlights of your career.
30:32
Speaker 2: Oh, well, one of the biggest highlights was I had
30:35
Speaker 2: done a stage production at a ninety nine seat theater.
30:40
Speaker 2: It was called Theater Theater. It's on Coin I think
30:42
Speaker 2: it's the bus stop now and there's a Methadone center
30:45
Speaker 2: right across from it. Was very interesting doing our little
30:48
Speaker 2: theater production there for two years. We did Daddy's Dying
30:51
Speaker 2: there and we took it to the Fringe Festival in
30:55
Speaker 2: Scotland and then I got to reprise my role in
30:57
Speaker 2: the film, which got me a contract with ABC, and
31:01
Speaker 2: so that was kind of the biggest highlight there. Second
31:05
Speaker 2: would be working with John Malkovich and getting killed.
31:08
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yes, yes, in the line of Fire.
31:13
Speaker 2: Yes, that was really nice. Wow, and uh, that was
31:18
Speaker 2: one of those movies that your mother called you five
31:20
Speaker 2: minutes after she saw it because it upset her so much,
31:22
Speaker 2: that death scene and stuff.
31:25
Speaker 1: Did you see him on Broadway?
31:27
Speaker 2: I know I didn't.
31:28
Speaker 1: I have not, but oh boy, that was I have
31:31
Speaker 1: to say.
31:31
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about a minute ago. You go,
31:33
Speaker 2: please God, I'm going on the show. Let them be
31:35
Speaker 2: nice people, and I do that every time I go there.
31:38
Speaker 2: He was so wonderful. I was doing another stage show
31:41
Speaker 2: and one of the little girls in the course was like,
31:44
Speaker 2: grab me, let this one final get to meet. I'll
31:46
Speaker 2: kill you like this. Anyway, I got permission to bring
31:49
Speaker 2: her on and he talked while they were setting up
31:53
Speaker 2: the kill scenes and stuff. He talked like for two
31:55
Speaker 2: hours with this young girl who was a UCLA theater major,
31:59
Speaker 2: about you know, back in Chicago, just everything. He was wonderful.
32:03
Speaker 2: But then when it was time for him to go on,
32:05
Speaker 2: it was like you just saw him turn into that character.
32:10
Speaker 2: I mean, as watching another actor do that was was wonderful.
32:13
Speaker 2: So that was one of the highlights. And then I
32:15
Speaker 2: didn't do any scenes with Clint, but he asked me
32:17
Speaker 2: to be in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.
32:19
Speaker 1: So from that thing, so it was I read for
32:23
Speaker 1: in Line of Fire. I remember being very disappointed that
32:27
Speaker 1: I didn't get the part.
32:28
Speaker 2: I think they told me that they read over five
32:30
Speaker 2: hundred william women for the role and I got the part,
32:34
Speaker 2: and that it was the sensitivity, the like don't open
32:37
Speaker 2: that door. I mean, to this day, I'll be in
32:39
Speaker 2: a grocery store and I'll have people go generally older
32:42
Speaker 2: mental to stop me and go, what the hell was
32:45
Speaker 2: the dog tied up from? Why would you let him in?
32:49
Speaker 2: It was a very hot, big highlight.
32:52
Speaker 1: That was all man. What's what? Incredibly tragic scene that
32:57
Speaker 1: was boy man.
32:59
Speaker 2: Especially for the younger that was my roommate. This was
33:02
Speaker 2: her first it was her first film and she spent
33:05
Speaker 2: like two hours being slammed against that mental piece.
33:08
Speaker 1: Huh.
33:10
Speaker 2: But it was really a highlight.
33:12
Speaker 1: I guess it was a like working with Eastwood. I mean,
33:14
Speaker 1: I hear he's quick. He doesn't do a lot of takes,
33:17
Speaker 1: he doesn't say action, he just says whenever you're ready, yeah.
33:21
Speaker 2: And he also has the same crew or he had
33:23
Speaker 2: the same crew all the time. And in fact, his crew,
33:26
Speaker 2: the greens were the camera all that stuff, and the
33:29
Speaker 2: camera crew were one family. And I'd worked with them
33:34
Speaker 2: when we did Speed too, But he when we did
33:37
Speaker 2: Midnight the Garden of Good and Evil, he just was
33:40
Speaker 2: he said, this is what I want you to do,
33:42
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And I said, I asked him a question.
33:44
Speaker 2: I said, wouldn't it be better since and going this way?
33:47
Speaker 2: And then he went, yep, she's right, that's like this.
33:50
Speaker 2: And then and I called him mister Eastwood and he
33:53
Speaker 2: said that I could call me Clint little Darland. So
33:56
Speaker 2: it's like that kind of thing. The things that I
33:58
Speaker 2: remember that was fun.
34:00
Speaker 1: What a what a gifted director?
34:02
Speaker 2: Just what a and lo the longevity of it, you know,
34:06
Speaker 2: and you go back and watch the the old movies, that.
34:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable. Well, he loves filming. He wanted to be filmed,
34:18
Speaker 1: He wanted to produce, direct, star, he wanted to be
34:22
Speaker 1: out there on set all the time and make make
34:24
Speaker 1: his art.
34:24
Speaker 2: You know, I think he was always under budget, always
34:27
Speaker 2: under time and everything, and uh trusted who he'd hired,
34:33
Speaker 2: and trusted his crew terrifically and treated them very nicely.
34:37
Speaker 2: Everybody was you know, that's I think a key is kindness,
34:40
Speaker 2: in which we have very little of anymore.
34:42
Speaker 1: So, well, that's the sign of a good leader who
34:46
Speaker 1: you know, hires competent people, trust them to deliver a
34:50
Speaker 1: product that exceeds their expectations and that's how it's done.
34:55
Speaker 1: Or else you get the micromanagers that drive everybody crazy
34:58
Speaker 1: and get you know, crap in return, you know, and
35:01
Speaker 1: it's a bad set. So compare Gilmore Girls to other
35:06
Speaker 1: shows that you've been on. What's the difference reality?
35:11
Speaker 2: I think for me, the Gilmore Girls, I mean everything
35:15
Speaker 2: is like, oh, you come in, there's ankst. They're teenage
35:17
Speaker 2: angst over here, and the parents are arguing over this,
35:19
Speaker 2: and that's a typical kind of sitcom. You come into
35:23
Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls and there were things that were going on
35:25
Speaker 2: in life that you kind of looked at two ways
35:28
Speaker 2: or laughed. You saw why LAURALI got the hell out
35:30
Speaker 2: when you see these things with the mothers, the father
35:33
Speaker 2: handing Rory the financial page, when the two the Laura
35:36
Speaker 2: II and the mom are having dissertations. I think it's
35:40
Speaker 2: the fact that she hit political things, the fact that
35:44
Speaker 2: how many people looked up the word fascist after seeing
35:47
Speaker 2: it on the Gilmore Girls. It probably didn't learn it
35:49
Speaker 2: in school. And what the hell is a fascist? You know,
35:51
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I think the intelligence of the series,
35:57
Speaker 2: her writing, and the performances of course, that brought those
36:00
Speaker 2: words to life. But I think that's kind of a
36:04
Speaker 2: difference between that. And also if on other episodics, you're
36:08
Speaker 2: you know, you've got a formula that they go by.
36:10
Speaker 2: You never quite knew what the formula was going to
36:12
Speaker 2: be on Girls, Where are we going today? And we
36:15
Speaker 2: may have gone to fifty different things in and out
36:17
Speaker 2: of that, both the different townspeople and things going on
36:20
Speaker 2: in the neighbors, and it's it's that reality you kind
36:24
Speaker 2: of went. I'd like to live in Stars Hall. I
36:26
Speaker 2: don't care if everybody knows my business. I'd rather live there,
36:30
Speaker 2: you know. But I also know I have a family there.
36:32
Speaker 2: They'll take care of me if i'm there. I mean,
36:34
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole thing about the family and
36:37
Speaker 2: hollow is the is the camaraderie, the friendship, they're looking
36:42
Speaker 2: out for each other. And then the nosy snoopy people
36:45
Speaker 2: that want to change stuff because of what will we
36:47
Speaker 2: do without Taylor?
36:48
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. And the possibility of seeing Sally Strothers
36:52
Speaker 1: on screen.
36:54
Speaker 2: My nemesis, my nemesis.
36:59
Speaker 1: All right, last question, we're running out of time. If
37:01
Speaker 1: you could play any recurring role on the show on
37:05
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, who would it be and why?
37:08
Speaker 2: I think I would have to play a character with Suki's.
37:12
Speaker 1: I was just thinking Suki's mom.
37:14
Speaker 2: I could do that very well. I think older sister there,
37:19
Speaker 2: I could be your mom, Okay, I don't care, and
37:22
Speaker 2: be your grandma. I just want to part. But I mean,
37:27
Speaker 2: you just when you think about the people that came
37:30
Speaker 2: out of this show to go on to do other things.
37:33
Speaker 2: I mean, Alexis winning an Emmy for that red Cape
37:38
Speaker 2: and white hat. Yeah that I mean it kind of
37:41
Speaker 2: makes me like this thinking about that show. But I
37:46
Speaker 2: think Dean, you know, he went on to do a
37:50
Speaker 2: teen different shows like this, Jared Pedalaki, and oddly enough
37:55
Speaker 2: he was working with Jensen Acles, who came from Days
37:58
Speaker 2: of Our Lives.
38:00
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they had a good run. Then. Whether they
38:03
Speaker 1: do fourteen seasons or.
38:04
Speaker 2: Something, fourteen or fifteen, I think yes. And then he
38:08
Speaker 2: went on. Jared went on to do.
38:12
Speaker 1: What is it the Western Right They.
38:18
Speaker 2: Czech Nurse remake thing and then Dean's got a new
38:20
Speaker 2: one now called Countdown. I think, who does Jensen acles?
38:25
Speaker 2: He has? Who is the partner? He has a new
38:28
Speaker 2: thing called Countdown?
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Speaker 1: I think right this moment, well, those those guys are
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Speaker 1: always going to work, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean their first, their first there were heart throbs,
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Speaker 2: and they went everywhere. But look at v somebody say
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Speaker 2: his name for because I don't want to pronounce it wrong,
38:43
Speaker 2: just his name in real life.
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Speaker 1: Oh Milo, I mean look at.
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Speaker 2: Him and what he's done. I mean, uh, And the
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Speaker 2: guest stars, and to round up just a great characters.
38:59
Speaker 2: I'm sorry we didn't get to meet the what's her
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Speaker 2: face's mom? And now what's her faces? Going out of
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Speaker 2: my head?
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Speaker 1: Oh Laine Kim and missus Missus Kim.
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Speaker 2: I mean again, the writing, you know, and the great characters,
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Speaker 2: and I think that's what makes them.
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Speaker 1: It was.
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Speaker 2: It was appointment television definitely, which you know, it came
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Speaker 2: really after a lot of appointment television, but this one
39:26
Speaker 2: still was one nobody wanted to miss. And now we're
39:29
Speaker 2: getting to watch it again and remembering that Chris writing
39:32
Speaker 2: and the fun acting and everything.
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Speaker 1: So well, Patrika, thank you for your time and your insights.
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Speaker 1: Please come back. We'd love to have you.
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Speaker 2: Back anytime, anytime. Are you in the show, I'll come back. Listen,
39:46
Speaker 2: come on, mister producer, it's your own show. I'm available.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying, man, it's not easy.
39:54
Speaker 2: Well, I live I live in Burbank and the Warner
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Speaker 2: Brothers tore down the entire ranch and now there's sixteen
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Speaker 2: new sound stages, a huge office building and a parking thing,
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Speaker 2: and I go, exactly, what's going on in there? Where's
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Speaker 2: the work?
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm sorry, Warner Brothers ranch.
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Speaker 2: Is update Warner Brothers ranch that you.
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Speaker 1: Used to be like a neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: It's just like there was a church team that there.
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Speaker 1: Was some funny, it was a whole set was shot there,
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Speaker 1: a lot.
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Speaker 2: Everything went down and it's now like sixteen new sound
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Speaker 2: stages and a big, huge office building and they just
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Speaker 2: put two new office buildings Warner Brothers did on the
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Speaker 2: Burbank lot that used to be the old NBC lot.
40:36
Speaker 2: And you go, like, why we're building all these sound stages,
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Speaker 2: where's the work? When is it coming back? What's happening
40:42
Speaker 2: at you know, of course we're just getting ready to
40:44
Speaker 2: come out of the hiatus. So maybe things will pick
40:46
Speaker 2: up a.
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Speaker 1: Little bit, right, I hope. So well, what's you the best?
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Speaker 2: Thank you darling.
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Speaker 1: I wish you much work, much quality work back at you,
40:54
Speaker 1: and it would be fun. It would be fun to
40:56
Speaker 1: be on a series together or a film together.
40:58
Speaker 2: So come on, people, make it happen.
41:02
Speaker 1: All the best and remember, best fans on the planet,
41:06
Speaker 1: keep the cards and letters coming. Thanks for all the downloads.
41:08
Speaker 1: Really appreciate the support of this podcast. It's growing every
41:13
Speaker 1: week for the last four years, and it's just an
41:15
Speaker 1: amazing testament to this fan base and how loyal and
41:17
Speaker 1: great they are.
41:18
Speaker 2: I think. And without our fans, what are we nothing?
41:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't nothing. I mean we're something. We're people.
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Speaker 2: Well yes, but I just don't have these great jobs.
41:28
Speaker 2: You know, we have great jobs and we do stuff.
41:30
Speaker 2: But I think two we wouldn't have risen to this
41:32
Speaker 2: without fans. I mean, I know a lot of the
41:34
Speaker 2: daytime fans are some of the most incredible people, and
41:37
Speaker 2: a lot of them have become friends because I've done
41:39
Speaker 2: it for over twenty eight years. There twenty five so
41:44
Speaker 2: again and this show had a big fan base. It's
41:47
Speaker 2: growing and of course you have love, so.
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Speaker 1: All the best. Thank you Patrica, and remember everybody, where
41:54
Speaker 1: you lead.
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