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- 0:00Hello there and welcome back to
- 0:02Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, and I'm the owner-founder of Utrema Limited,
- 0:12a company that makes fertilisers, biostimulants and biopesticides for hydroponic
- 0:16growers and conventional growers, people growing in soil as well.
- 0:20And today, I just wanted to contrast a couple of different issues with growing
- 0:25outdoors in soil compared to growing hydroponically indoors in a greenhouse
- 0:30or in a grow room or a vertical farm the first one is that,
- 0:35you might think in in europe
- 0:38a lot of our food is imported especially a lot
- 0:40of our fresh produce things like lettuce leafy greens and things like
- 0:43this even in holland where we think of as having
- 0:46a really big horticulture sector
- 0:49still the vast majority is imported and
- 0:52they actually export a lot of leafy greens out of
- 0:55holland to other markets now what's stopping
- 0:59more farmers growing outdoors and you
- 1:02might think oh well there's that there's a limit on how much can be grown outdoors
- 1:06and we're at that limit and that's why we're having vertical farms producing
- 1:10leafy greens lettuce and things like that to fill the gap and try and reduce
- 1:16the amounts of imports however that's not actually the case.
- 1:20And I've got a number of customers who grow leafy greens and spinach and things
- 1:25like that outdoors in fields.
- 1:27And when I say to them, what stops more farmers doing what you're doing?
- 1:33And the simple answer is, for want of a better word, laziness.
- 1:37And they say that farmers, most arable farmers want an easy life,
- 1:42and they don't want to employ lots of people.
- 1:44They don't want to be on the farm during
- 1:48the height of summer when they could be on holiday and
- 1:51between harvest and crop maturation so
- 1:54arable farming is low number of people and
- 1:58low inputs low risk and so
- 2:01it's an easy life and it's a bit like comparing you know sheep farming to dairy
- 2:06farming dairy dairies require lots of man hours and lots of people and so horticulture
- 2:12in field horticulture growing crops in fields like spring onions or you know anything celery,
- 2:21is a lot of effort and a lot of people and it's a big business so that's actually what stops.
- 2:28More homegrown inputs especially in europe don't
- 2:32know what the case is in the us but it's not a case of
- 2:35maxing out and there we need we need vertical farms whereas
- 2:38large companies are investing in vertical farming and obviously they don't mind
- 2:41investing in people and systems and things like this so i think there's a gap
- 2:47in the market for more field-based horticulture in the uk for that perspective
- 2:52the other thing i wanted to talk about when it comes to field production is,
- 2:56They are thinking that field-based vegetables, especially lettuce,
- 3:01but also things like Brussels sprouts, in future will actually,
- 3:04you'll find a lot more insects on them when you buy them from the supermarket.
- 3:10And they're thinking that consumers are going to have to get used to this and
- 3:14educated on this, especially in Holland and Belgium, where a lot of this research has been done.
- 3:20And they're finding that it's maybe eight
- 3:24years ago aphids you know what you might call green
- 3:27fly or what or black fly if you're not sure what an aphid was
- 3:30very small greeny yellow insects that
- 3:33suck the sap of your leaves they used
- 3:35to be not a problem eight years ago and that's because
- 3:38we had a class of chemicals called neonicotinoids and
- 3:42they were put on the seeds and they protect the plants for life so with 50 grams
- 3:46of insecticide you could protect a hectare of vegetables now they were banned
- 3:51in europe because they are very poisonous to bees and so the the main farmers
- 3:58that that that outcried about this in the uk were like.
- 4:03Beet farmers and oilseed rape
- 4:06farmers but actually it's horticulture and vegetables
- 4:09where it's probably the biggest impact and so this
- 4:13is going to be an area where hydroponic and
- 4:17indoor crops will actually have a major advantage
- 4:20on over field-grown crops
- 4:24in the future and in the next few years and
- 4:27as the european union wants to withdraw
- 4:31not banned because they never actually ban withdraw more
- 4:35active ingredients the situation will only
- 4:38get worse unless we find other natural chemical free
- 4:41ways to produce crops biocontrol starts to take
- 4:44effect in fields at the moment biocontrol is
- 4:47not as limited mainly to protected cultivation so that's
- 4:50a big area where hydroponics has a big advantage because you
- 4:53can exclude the pests completely and more
- 4:56effectively use biocontrol and then
- 4:59the other major advantage which i think i've talked about before is the
- 5:02contamination by microbes and pesticides and other contaminants from the soil
- 5:08since heavy metals hydroponics has an ability to have improvements there because
- 5:12you're not driving tractors next to the the lettuce you're not having people taking the piss.
- 5:20And doing other sorts of nasty things in the
- 5:23field maybe you know obviously that's not the standard
- 5:26operating procedure for that crop but you know
- 5:29people are more likely to do that than they are in a hydroponics farm
- 5:32for example and also you know you're not surrounded by
- 5:35soil with its contaminant with its very high you
- 5:38know soil has a very high microbial count whether
- 5:41that's a good thing or a bad thing it's full of beneficial microbes and it's
- 5:44full of pathogens to humans and pathogens to plants as well so and obviously
- 5:49that's one of the reasons for why hydroponics has an advantage so as i say this
- 5:54this increasing threat of aphids in europe could be things that swing their.
- 6:01Maybe purchases supermarkets to to
- 6:04look towards more hydroponically grown crops and
- 6:08move away from field grown crops if if
- 6:11they're consistently getting complaints and issues with with
- 6:15insects in the crop you might be able to grow an amazing
- 6:18crop and not be the yield might not be impacted by
- 6:21say a caterpillar in the lettuce or an aphid
- 6:24in the lettuce but the consumer won't care whether
- 6:27your yields and the actual quality has been affected if they're
- 6:30seeing loads of insects it might be that certain insects
- 6:33are are tolerated like an aphid it's
- 6:36it's inconsequential probably don't see it but if it was like a a black flea
- 6:41beetle or something or a stink bug or something something that was really horrible
- 6:46looking then they would definitely complain you know like a big red caterpillar
- 6:51for example a lily beetle something like that in your in your crop then
- 6:55there would definitely be complaints.
- 6:58And so insect control and pest control is not just about controlling yields
- 7:04and virus transfer and quality of crop.
- 7:08It can also be customer perception, and it could be a big win for hydroponics going forwards.
- 7:14Thank you very much for listening to today's episode. It's just an opinion piece.
- 7:19We'll have a news piece or a product focus tomorrow. if you found it useful
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- 7:31wasabi which is one of my favorite plants hence i named my company after it
- 7:35thank you very much for listening until tomorrow goodbye.