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Those Qs These As · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  It's Deprogrammed, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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  band. That's right.
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  We've done all the work for you. All you have to do is press play
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  and listen. My name is Justin.
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  I am band curious and normally what we do on Deprogrammed is
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  try to turn you on to a band. We will get together and talk
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  about the band and in doing so we'll come up with a top 10
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  starter kit list for you to get into the band as well.
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  That's what normally happens here.
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  If you've stumbled across this episode, that means you've
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  somehow stumbled across the daily, which is just filling out
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  the week with more conversations.
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  And today we are doing a queue and a I've been asking in the
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  Discord and Instagram and threads for your questions.
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  If you've got burning questions about deprogrammed, anything in
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  the history of deprogrammed bands that we've covered or
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  anything like that, Discord or threads at Deprogram VA or wait
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  for me to post it on on Instagram.
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  It'll happen eventually and it's all the same place.
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  Deprogram VA or Legion of Stupid Discord and get in on the Q&A.
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  So Mesmo on the Discord asks what band has been the hardest
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  to narrow down? There's several questions here.
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  We'll we'll tack on one at a time.
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  What band has been the hardest to narrow down to 10 songs?
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  I feel like in the same vein, 'cause there's been a couple
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  that we literally didn't, Pink Floyd being the most recent,
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  because it just doesn't. The show's format doesn't work
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  for that band. I've I said it on the episode, I
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  enjoyed the band did not. I enjoyed the conversation with
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  the people on the episode, did not enjoy the list building
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  portion because I knew what was going to happen for Pink Floyd.
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  It just it makes sense for there to be more more than 10 because
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  too many songs kind of go together to make one.
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  In that same vein, I feel like Flaming Lips was kind of the
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  same. We've managed to get it to 10,
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  but it felt like, especially at the time before I really honed
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  in on what the show was trying to do, it was hard to pick the
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  20 to start with. So because it felt like all the
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  songs kind of needed each other to, to prop each other up.
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  So that one was, was difficult. The ones that we literally
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  didn't get down to 10, we, we invoked the Fredo rule for Guns
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  and Roses. We've talked about that episode
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  a lot lately. We invoked the Fredo rule for
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  Alice Cooper Part 1. So those literally didn't get
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  down to 10. Those two were like 11.
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  And I want to say Pink Floyd was like 13 or 14 songs technically.
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  But I think we we framed it as these songs go together.
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  It just that's frustrating. So that's that.
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  What band surprised you the most once you dug deeper into their
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  catalog? Here's an answer I haven't I
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  haven't given. I want to make sure that
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  somebody hasn't already asked this the way I'm I'm going to
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  put it Aha, you know, because a lot of times the quote UN quote
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  one hit wonders you assume are going to be, you know, with aha,
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  you assume it's going to be all take on me and take on me is
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  definitely part of it. But no, like they're much better
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  than that. You know, I don't I don't want
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  to make it seem like aha, something like, Oh my God, my
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  mind altering band, but it is much more than you think it is.
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  And often times I I marvel at that when when they're better or
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  or deeper than you think they're going to be.
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  So like a band like Aha surprises you.
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  A band like shoot, even live surprised me.
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  You know, like it's everybody always says, oh, it's throwing
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  copper, it's throwing copper. And to me it was always like, I
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  just don't want this band. And I ended up being pleasantly
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  surprised with how much I enjoyed them.
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  Everclear like it is kind of on that same level where it's like
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  most of these bands I probably won't go back to, but they
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  surprised me in that they're not as one-dimensional as I thought
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  or there's more to them than I thought.
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  So as far as once you dug deeper, yeah, I I think that
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  answers you. I hope that answers your
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  question. And if it doesn't, feel free to
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  ask again and tell me to answer it better.
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  Have you ever thought about making a do not start here list
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  for a band that might be fun for like a, for like one of these,
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  like a short, short list? I will say I try.
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  I think that is the shift of the show, if you listen from the
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  beginning is I don't think I was intentionally being negative
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  when I when I started doing the show, but I think there is like
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  a, a swing towards just trying to be positive.
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  And I would say like on that same wavelength, if we did an
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  episode of top 10 binners, you know, like stuff that went into
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  the bin that shouldn't have, that would be fun too.
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  But a do not start here. I mean, I don't know, we're
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  throwing it out there. If, if somebody would be
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  interested in doing something like that, like on occasion
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  again here as one of the the dailies that we would just kind
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  of record real quick, let me know, but I have not answer your
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  question more directly. I have not thought of of doing
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  that and most of the time a do not start here is going to be
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  like with Blind Melon. No rain, Don't don't start with
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  no rain. I get it, but don't like they're
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  much better than that. I think that's the only one we
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  got from Discord. So let's hop on over to
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  Instagram, if you will. We got a couple questions here.
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  Let me scroll on back. All right, Chrome Earth asks how
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  often, how often do new songs from an artist discography make
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  it into your daily rotation of music?
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  New, new songs make it into my daily rotation to me.
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  Well, friend, my daily rotation of music is almost never a
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  rotation. I, I, I, I'm constantly
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  listening to a new band because that's just the, the nature of
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  the show, especially right now. Like we're really packing them
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  in and trying to like get a good couple months ahead.
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  So I don't really have much of A daily rotation.
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  That said, there are definitely bands that that make the weekly
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  rotation or the rotation that that I will dive back into.
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  Jimmy World, Paramore. You know, I, I mentioned these
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  both recently, but like they went from before we did them on
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  the show, like before that 2018 break or 20/17/2018 break.
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  I never listened to them and to their their.
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  Both of those bands are very much in rotation now, so I
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  probably listen to at least one song by either of those bands at
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  least once a week, which probably doesn't sound like a
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  lot to you, but is a lot to me. Mets failure like those bands.
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  Definitely. I mean again, how much can I can
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  I glaze those bands? I I just I love.
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  I love those two bands. So those are being actually
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  funnily enough, we talked about this on on after the fact.
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  The motels. I this this comes into it now
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  too is if I find a band that we recently covered, if I find a
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  copy of one of their records that I enjoyed on vinyl at at a
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  reasonable price, I will cop it and I will listen to it.
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  Like I, I got a PUP record last year, I think it was last year I
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  got a couple Motels records and that is, I would have never
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  thought of the Motels last year even like this same time last
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  year I would have, I don't think I even knew a song, but I've, I
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  know purchased 2 Motels records. So I think that answers that
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  question. This is 1 I I really like.
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  Also, what are your thoughts on covering non-english speaking
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  artists or have you done any so far?
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  We haven't. We, I mean, we've covered some
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  international acts. I believe Phoenix is French.
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  We've done a bunch of Aussie acts, Violence, Soho, I mean
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  Tired Line to name a few. And we've done a bunch.
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  We've done some New Zealand acts, the bets come to mind.
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  We've done a couple Canadian acts.
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  More on that on the next question.
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  We've done UK acts, so mostly English speaking and right now
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  we're working on Google Bordello, who is Ukrainian, but
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  the songs are in, in English. So I mean, you can hear his
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  accent, but like, it's not, it's in, it's in English.
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  So it's not, it's not what you're speaking about.
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  To, to answer your question, I'm open to it.
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  I, I, I don't because it's music.
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  I don't think the barrier is as bad or as as steep as one might
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  assume because often times the way I'm listening to these
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  anyway is I, I can't really get into depth on the lyrics anyway.
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  So sometimes, most times it's very surface level.
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  So we'll, we'll come back to that.
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  More on that shortly. To answer your question
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  directly, I'm I'm open to it. We haven't, but I'm open to it.
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  Jen asked. Oh man, wow.
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  It got buried by a bunch of other notifications.
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  How dare you Instagram. But these were these were
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  related, which is why I put them together.
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  How about an episode on Canadian artists and our greatest songs
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  tragically hit Barenaked Ladies, Susan Agglacarque.
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  Hopefully I'm saying that right. Jerry cans, etcetera.
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  That would be fun. I'd love to hear you guys would
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  pick out. I don't know if this is what you
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  are implying, Jen. I mean, we've done the hip, but
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  we have not done Barenaked Ladies yet or or any of these
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  other artists. That said, what I'm taking out
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  of what you're asking would be fun for an episode like this.
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  Like one of these mini sods where if we did a top ten of
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  just Canadian artists, that would be fun.
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  I'd be into that. We have not done it, but that
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  would be fun. I'd be very open to that and I
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  think that kind of goes hand in hand with, with the last
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  person's questions about none in English speaking.
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  Very open to doing that as well. I, you know, we'd have to run
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  some, some rules, whether or not like the, the band would have
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  had to have been covered. Cause we've done the weaker
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  vans, we've done propaganda, we've done the hip, we've done
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  Rush, we've done Atlantis, Marsett, Avril Lavigne now.
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  So we've done a good handful. And then these are just the ones
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  that I know for a fact, you know, I, I'd have to dig in deep
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  because there's probably Canadian acts that we've covered
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  that I didn't even clock. We're Canadian.
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  So that said, I don't know if the ground rules would be, we
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  had to cover them on the show already.
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  Again, we'll, we'll cross that bridge, but I'm into that idea.
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  Jen, thank you. Da da da got that one.
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  And then Gavin asks, what is your process for listening and
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  picking your songs? Are you driving around running
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  errands? Are you sitting at a desk
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  concentrating with a complicated scoring system?
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  Are you cooking pasta? Do you have a detective board on
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  your wall covered with red string connecting songs to
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  albums? Has your process changed over
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  the years? I kind of went into this on I
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  can't remember if this was like a year review where like old me
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  especially I started right. I started trying to write an
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  article about my time with the pumpkins.
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  I was thinking about trying to write articles about each
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  episode, especially like the older ones, But I feel like I
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  I'm not getting deep enough, like there isn't enough for me
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  to say I'm not a good writer. So that that's huge, like in and
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  of itself, but you know, I don't know, man, maybe like a, a, a
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  short little article. But anyways, like I was, I was,
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  I was getting into the first good handful.
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  Like the way the show started was like my favorite bands.
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  I feel like the 1st 1010 episodes or so were all bands I
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  was really familiar with. And I mean, it quickly grew out
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  of that, but like those first episodes, I approached it as
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  just my favorites, you know, just just songs that I knew that
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  I liked and it didn't matter. You know, I, I want to say I
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  threw set the rate that Jerry was like the first song thrown
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  out in show history. And in hindsight, I wouldn't do
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  that. Like I would not set the rate of
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  Jerry. My favorite pumpkin song would
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  not be on my top 20 'cause I don't, I don't know that it, it
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  fits the bill. I don't know that it is a song I
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  would point anybody to to bring into the band.
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  So yeah, like my, my, what I'm looking at, what is actually in
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  the conversation to begin with has changed drastically versus,
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  you know, I'm just picking what I like.
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  I've more recently developed the the use of the Internet.
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  I will ask the Internet either via Google if if a list comes up
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  about that band and just to see if I'm on the right path.
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  Usually when I've already done my first pass, it's just kind of
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  weighing it against what, what is kind of popular out there.
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  And then all I've been asking threads just to kind of, again,
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  you know, way what, what already crossed my ear versus what the,
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  the fans of that band think. Because the IT just tells me
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  whether I'm on the right path, whether I'm hearing the thing
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  that that people that like the band are hearing.
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  So, you know, I, I've also tried to like less overthink and I
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  feel like that last bit that I told you about asking the
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  Internet has taken out a great deal of the overthinking.
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  And I used to really overthink. And a lot of times you'll hear
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  me especially in those John and Gavin episodes where I
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  overthought the room. And I think the last time I
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  really overthought the room was like my motels list, although we
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  we did great on it. But there was there was a good
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  handful of pics where you hear me on the episode going.
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  I just I overthought the room. Yeah, that I would say that that
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  I've tried to make the process easier, not necessarily faster,
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  but it all kind of depends on the length of the this is the
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  perfect way to close it out. This isn't this isn't casting
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  stones, this isn't pointing blame.
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  It all kind of depends on the length of the initial list.
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  If we get like a 90 song list that is 7 1/2 hours long, yeah,
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  each song is getting 30 seconds Max.
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  If it doesn't catch me in that 30 seconds, then that song is
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  probably done for. If it doesn't give me something
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  that I want to hear more of, I'm not going to listen to it.
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  Sorry, that's just that's just what it is.
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  I try to make sure that each song I'm able to hear at least
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  three to four songs after that for or three to four times
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  rather after that first pass doesn't always happen.
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  But again, I always try to listen to my 20 right before we
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  go on just so I can reacclimate myself.
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  So that would be how my process has changed.
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  So we threw out a couple ideas out here like as we went.
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  If any of those ideas interest you, let me know wherever you
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  get a hold of me and we will try to figure out a way to make them
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  happen. We're, we're getting really far
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  ahead, so it feels good and it also hurts my brain.
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  But hey man, we're getting there, aren't we?
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  So today's Friday, which means we will see you all on Monday.
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  Goodbye.