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AM800 CKLW Roundtable with Dan MacDonald, Jon Liedtke, Vanessa Shield, & Jada Mallot - June 17, 2024 · Kvetch & Release

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Hey, good morning and welcome back. It's Dan McDonald. Thank you so
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much for tuning in. You're listening to the Dan McDonald Show on amid hundred
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CKLW and Happy Monday everybody. I was not expecting the rain this morning.
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I woke up. I did not know it was in the cards. Woke
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up and it was pooring rain. I thought, what is that pitter pattern
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going on? It can't be raining, And sure enough it was raining.
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But hopefully ever had a great weekend. The weather was perfect for the weekend.
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There was so much going on that brings us to a roundtable speaking of
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fun things going on. Welcoming to the show this morning. Soon to be
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third year political science student and community advocate here in Windsor, Jadam a lot
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Jada, good morning, Good morning Dan, Thanks for having me back today.
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I always love having you on. Author Vanessa Shields. I'm a big,
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big fan of for work. If you go to my bookshelf at home,
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you'll see all of her books right in a row on my bookshelf.
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Vanessa Shields, Vanessa, good one. And when your books come out they
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will be on my bookshelf as well. No, I appreciate me time right
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last but certainly not least host here on AMATE hundred and host of Roastedy Politics,
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mister John Lydkey John, good morning, Good morning. Really quickly,
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I wanted to kind of continue a conversation that that Mike and I and listeners
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were having on the Morning Drive. And I don't know how it started.
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I think he was looking at Rinaldo Augustino's posts about Bentley's being torn down,
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the old Bentley's location downtown, which was iconic. I actually never went to
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Bentley's. I think Bentley's was like ever so slightly before my time, and
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I think when I was going to bars, I just didn't go to that
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one. I think it was the it was an older person for my mom
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used to go an amazing brunch which was hilarious. So I went for brunch
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because that me too. I was just on the cusp of right fitting.
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Yeah, I went to brunch there too, had a great brunch, really
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good brunch, like a hangover brunch kind of thing. He was there,
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But yeah, I never to go to Bentley's. But we got in this
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like thing of wh where was your favorite spot like back in the day downtown
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and Jada, I'm going to reframe this question for you when we get to
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you. But what did you have any go to Vanessa's like back in the
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day when I'm a Loop girl, look at that. Of course you are
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born and raised at the Loop and other places before or that with you know
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the fake id's that we used to be able. Can I say that the
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radio? I'm not getting that nowadays, but I can't even There was like
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a warehouse on the west side right near there's a strip club that's still there
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on like oh was it called the Zoo the Zoo maybe for it changed the
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name, but that place was letting anybody in their little brethren, so that
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was fun to just go dancing. But no, Yeah, you go to
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the you go to the Loop building and if it's if you have to wait
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to get in, you go downstairs to the coach and horses, and you
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try not to get dripped on by pee from the bathroom upstairs, and there's
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always some like band, you know, new young viby band. And then
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you get upstairs and you you you you walk you can walk up on the
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way those huge stair stairwell up there to the Loop and then you just wea
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We had a group of gals and we would take our spot right in front
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of the like Florida ceiling, no no, no, where the music comes
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out the huge speakers by the DJ booth, and like all night. That's
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we would just be there all night and uh for sure Saturday and Sunday and
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people like knew, like that's how much we went that The crowd would kind
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of like part and be like, oh there's the girls. Who's who danced
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in front of the speakers, your stage dancer? Did you stay? Yeah,
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we would, but we didn't stay on the stage the whole time because
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you got to share the stage. Was yeah, you just yep exactly.
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It's so great to talk to a loop first. Because I was there as
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well. We probably crossed past any times. I know we did it.
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Yeah, the crowd kind of part when our crew would get to it.
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Everybody knew, like we offer our own car spaces. Yeah true. How
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and how we never broke our next going down that staircase. Oh yeah,
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the way it was a staircase. Ever, Yeah, they did have a
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raeling, Thank goodness, God, I would have. It was dangerous.
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I mean we had some slips, but nobody, nobody hurt themselves. I
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used to like be like, will this be the night that somebody breaks their
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neck and sues this place that ever happened? No, me neither, which
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is a shocker. John. Did you have an establishment that you're nostalgic for
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from from back in the day Because you're a little bit younger than me,
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I think, Yeah, I'm thirty five, so you're more more than ten
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years younger than me. Okay, Loop FM Lounge, the Horses. I
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mean that building was just an incredible place. My band we used to,
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you know, play wherever they would have us for the most part, quite
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frankly, Minion House. Yeah, and you know it's depressing. I don't
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want to go through a list of places that don't exist. I'm starting to
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feel old. To thirteen below, thirteen below the Avalon Frona. I like
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the Avalon Front Taroda Actyl Lounge was a good one too. We went to
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all the same places. Changes by night was five dollars drinks of five dollars
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pictures On Wednesday, I failed communications class because it was Thursday mornings because of
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changes by night Wednesday night. Yeah yeah, so communications of all courses I
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failed. So you were learning how to communicate those I was. It was
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just a different way social life. But I missed the Tarodactyl Lounge, which
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is now the Cherry Lounge. It's called the Cherry Lounge now, okay,
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and it was it was Patrick O'Ryan's for a bid. It was Dean Martini's.
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But my favorite incarnation I haven't been to the Cherry Lounge yet, soul
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reserve judgment, But my favorite incarnation was the Tarodactyl Lounge. I worked at
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Dean Martini's. That was a time best person. Oh boy, yeah,
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I'm going to leave that way. It was very I worked around a lot
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of intoxic people to work in Saint Patrick's day broadcasts, and when you're the
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only sober person amongst everyone, you come to hate people. Very cool.
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Now, Jada, you are you are the younger one. You're twenty years
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old? Yes, So now what is the place to go? Vanessa and
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I were talking where do where do you go dancing? Now? What is
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the young hip joint right now? Okay? So to go dancing, I'd
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say probably Arius in the casino. It's a very very young crowd. There's
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also ball and barrel. Okay. Yeah. They got rid of the mechanical
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bull though, and that was that was before I turned nineteen, so I
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never got to go on the Mechanical Bowl Wow. And then there's there's also
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Tequila Bob's, but it's quite a young crowd, like Freshly nineteen is where
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you go dancing. But I would say that I'm more of a of a
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sitting lounging bar kind of person. I live in East Riverside, So the
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night that I turned nineteen, my dad and I and we went and we
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sat at Average Joe's. Oh cool and awesome. I was like, oh,
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this is like the known dive bar of the area. But we went
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in and there was a band and they were killing it. I had a
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great time. I really like Average Joe's. I've been to Lion's Head as
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well. They also have live music that's near my house and speaking of steep
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stairs, I feel like the older crowd is going to be like, oh
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my god when I say this, but I love Kill their House. It
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is also a very young crowd on Fridays and Saturdays, and sometimes it is
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so bumping in there. I'm like, how does this place not come crashing?
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Yes? Yes, I really like Kill their House. And I haven't
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been, but I've heard that a Zool Lounge on windt Oh is really good.
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That's the old the old Gourmet I Porium. Okay, oh, the
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old bank and now it's now it's a zoo lounge. Yeah, so there's
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a Zool. But one that's very similar is the Blind Owl on olet Oh.
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I love that place. That's it feels you're like in a little speakeasy.
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Yeah, little cocktail, good cocktails there, very cozy, great cocktails.
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Yeah. I was there a couple of weeks ago and they made some
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kind of pink concoction. The only reason I ordered it was because it was
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pink, and I was like, I just want to drink something pink.
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I think I had that. It was delicious. Yeah, that's great that.
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Those are some good ones though, but the younger one. I'd feel
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like I was probably one hundred and ten if I went into some of those
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places. But Disco Inferno, I think for folks, folks Wore of our
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Age is the place to go dancing. Yeah, open is that like seven
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you can still be home by eight thirty your jams. Watch a Stranger Things.
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I love it. I love it. I want to shout out Villains
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too. Villains is a great place for live events and the art in that
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place is spectacular. Yeah, Villains, I've had many events. They're also
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like really community oriented as well. In are open to anyone who wants to
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do anything in there, and they have like a second floor part of the
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space too if you want. I think they've had like drag events there and
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yeah, so yeah, I enjoy the Yeah, the Villains. Of course,
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I got to give a shut out to Fog Lounge as while Lounge and
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craft Heads we're gonna be moving to the Eera Street area, but yeah,
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those are that's my vibe. My vibe now is Fog and craft Heads.
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That kind of more of a sit down, watch live music chat with people.
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Speaking of Eerie Street, though, Windsor Eats they host the they host
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the Mexican Village and Windsor Eats had almost eighty percent of their glasshole and the
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first Mexican Village, and I looked online. I know they post a little
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thing saying what happened, saying eighty percent of our glasses are gone. So
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now we're going to have to serve in plastic cups and there's now an impact
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on the environment and this is not what we wanted. And I couldn't believe
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some of the comments. Some were very sympathetic, some were saying, well,
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that's what you get for charging what you charge, And I couldn't believe
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that people were actually being spiteful and gleeful about stealing. But is it a
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sign of declining customer ethics? Do you think there's more of this? Should
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there be stricter penalties or more lenient approaches like asking customers to return items no
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questions, asking I'm curious to know you got to take a quick break,
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but I want to talk about this when we come back. Just get your
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take on what happened at Windsor Eats and maybe texting if you're texting out there,
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have you ever taken a keepsake from a restaurant or do you know someone
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who has? Will come back with a round table, don't go away,
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Hey, good morning, and welcome back. It's Dan McDonald, Thanks so
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much for tuning in. Welcome back to our roundtable as well. Author Vanessa
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Shields, Jadam a Lot, and John Lecky in studio Windsor Eats, we
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were saying had almost eighty percent of their glassware stolen. First Night of Mexican
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Village, which was on Friday night, some even going online saying well that's
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what you get. I couldn't believe some of the comments. I really couldn't
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have thought, well are people this blatant? Now? But I don't know.
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It got me asking myself questions what drives people to take items like glassware
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from restaurants? Maybe it's harmless, maybe there's a misunderstand I don't know.
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Is it a sign? Is it a sign of like declining ethics? Should
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there be stricter penalties? I don't know. If someone even said I think
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this would be way too far. Maybe if it's this kind of place you
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get, you pay so much the drink, you get a deposit when you
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turn your return your glass. But I think that's like, no, what
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do we had? Must we do that? Your thoughts though on this?
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And I'll ask texters to have you ever taken a keepsake from a restaurant?
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Or do you know somebody who has? But Vanessa, you were saying this
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breaks your heart? What are your thoughts on the situation at Windsor? I
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mean, I don't really understand it. I mean there are so many kind
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of understood, respectful, kind of rules that happen when you go into an
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establishment, and I mean glassware is comes like with a plate or a fork,
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right, And I mean that I did they take a plate? Oh
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with them in a fork too? Like I guess I don't understand. Now
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the glasses were beautiful. I understand that, you know this specific event,
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So I feel like there might be room for maybe one or two people to
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be like, oh, maybe we can keep this. But even still myself,
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I would go and ask the owner or someone who works there and say
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is this free? Yeah? Or maybe even can I buy it? It's
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beautiful, it's got heritage ort whatever, like can I buy it? But
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I just yeah, I don't understand that, and it's just to me it
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shows yeah, just like a total disrespect. I think it's I suppose that's
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mixed in with morals and ethics and everything for that many people to eighty percent,
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yeah, like what happened where? I mean it could be one person
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saw somebody on the street holding it and then they when they went in,
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thought oh, we get to keep it because the person was outside. I
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mean, I don't know, you can like make up a story of how
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someone might misunderstand the situation with but yes, eighty percent that's just like way
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too high and sad and I mean it's Adriana, right, yes, yeah,
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like they just they work so hard and I just like it's hard for
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the business person too, Like it's not cheap. Those glasses probably cost them
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a mint. They were really nice glasses. Yeah, they were very yeah
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cool markets. It's so sad and like that people are making comments that are
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just mean and like what is the I mean to me, that's a whole
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other conversation. It's just about you know, the internet and how nasty we
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can be, right just you know, well, there's no that doesn't help
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at all, doesn't help anybody when you're trying to justify stealings. Yeah,
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I don't. I think we've lost the plot. Then there's actual online is
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one thing too, But then when it actually happens the next night, a
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car pulled up, there's there's video online right now, a car pulled up.
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Two windsor Eats God got out of the car and walked inside and ooh,
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I love this potted plant. I'll just take that and put that in
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my car. And I thought, and if you knew windsor Eats, I
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mean they're they're the nicest people they're working really hard to bring positive vibes of
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the city that we need now more than ever, and then something like this
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happens sometimes Windsor and I love our city, but we can't get out of
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our own damn way. Sometimes it's like we are our worst enemy. Your
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thoughts on this one tonight today? John, You know this is why we
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can't have nice things. Yeah, we wonder why businesses are closing down.
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We wonder why there aren't new ones always opening up as fast as we want.
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We wonder why businesses have to move. There's a variety of reasons,
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but a lot of it just comes down to finances and when you decide to
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go and create an additional expense for a business. I mean, as Adriana
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said, now we got to go switch over to plastic cups at all times.
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Congratulations, we're screwing over the environment more and we have to go raise
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our prices because that's now a new increased cost that we have to deal with
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the time now. So when people are complaining you know costs are too much
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right now, well, congratulations, you've made the prices go up even higher.
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I think you know, name and shame if you go to someone's house
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and you see one of these glasses sitting on a shelf, tell Adriana bring
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it back. If you have a glass, just bring back, bring it
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back. Teck a fiber in there and a little with a sticker and say,
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you know what, let's try this again. I you know, I
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was a curse word and here's here's your glass bag. Yeah, even I
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didn't know. I do think it might be a misunderstanding. If that many
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people took it, it might be Oh look, I see those people leaving
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with yours. You can take your glasses, And I could see how that
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could go kind of viral amongst the crowd. I mean, you should know
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better. Tracy Martin's who runs the YQG in Blooms podcast, she said,
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Hey, Dan, Tracy here at disgusts me when I talked to Adriano and
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jokingly asked if I could take one. That's when I found out that half
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of them were already gone. Couldn't imagine taking one without purchasing or asking your
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thoughts on this one today, Jada, It's interesting that this came up because
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I saw something online just the other day of so Boston Pizza has like fish
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bowl glasses they serve like drinks in them. And someone was made a video
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about their stolen Boston Pizza fish bowl glass and everyone in the comments was like,
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oh, yeah, I have mine too. I stole my fish bowl
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glass as well. And as someone who worked in a restaurant for just a
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couple of years, but I can still say that if we're short on glasses,
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you're not going to get very good service. I can't even imagine like
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eighty percent of glass we're gone, and then having to serve that many people.
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I would like I'd be up in flames. Yeah, like it would
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be so so stressful. So even from that perspective, like you're you're affecting
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the quality of service that you're going to get if you're taking away the utensils
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that we need to serve you. Yeah, agree, totally. I've never
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thought I have asked. I worked at Margarita's before and Devin sham All back
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in the day, date myself a bit, and we used to sell these
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special drinks in like kind of a high, tall stem like glass, and
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people often wanted them because they were kind of cool and neat looking, and
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we actually did sell them on the side, but people would sometimes ask like,
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do I get to people would oft nest? Do I get to keep
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this? It's like, no, you don't. We do sell them if
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you want one for whatever, and people would buy them. Somebody did say,
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though, a oneleter beer glass from Grizzly Creek restaurant way back when in
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the early two thousands, and steak knives from the same restaurant. People owning
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up what they stole. Somebody else here said, I have taken things,
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but I still know what I'm doing is wrong. I don't just to fight
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it. I know I am straight up stealing. Just own your behavior,
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she said. Ironically. This person said, I mean, I guess that's
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where we are. Though. It's like, I know this is wrong,
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but I don't care. I'm going to steal it. And I think that
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might be what what happened. I think there's also like this idea that if
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you're not in private business and slogging it yourself, you hear a lot of
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things like, oh, well, they can just go write it off right
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off. It's fine, as if like there's a magical write it off ferry
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and the money shows up from somewhere else. Mark Boscarial when someone knocked out
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the front door at the Willistead and there were a bunch of comments going like,
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well, you can just write it off, you're a restaurant tour and
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he goes, oh, you're right, Yeah, I just have to go
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spend fourteen hundred dollars right now, and I can go write it off and
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someone will just show up tomorrow and repay me the four Like that's not how
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it works. There's always a fixed cost for things. That's the world we
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live in. People know what they're doing is wrong. I don't walk into
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best Buy and go, oh, you know what, I bought a TV.
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I can get an extra pair of headphones here because they're sitting on the
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same table, Like what the hell are we talking about? Like we've lost
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the plot. It's and the people defending just outright theft, like just garbage
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takes from just like just get better. Well I just gotta I just got
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to take here. Very sorry that this happened to windsor EAT's, but the
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carousels are not the place to show your classy side. Serving a margarita in
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an etched glass means nothing to the festivalgoers except a nice keepsake. I mean,
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that's a sad take. On it. It still doesn't justify stealing.
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No, I don't think even still ask yeah, goodness is a keepsake.
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We get to keep it. Ask the person beside you if they've got one
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too, if they don't know one of you, go ask yeah. Like
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it takes two seconds, two seconds and then it's a simple note. Okay,
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cool, We got to take a really quick break. We will come
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back. Keep it here. It's the Dan McDonald's show on AM eight hundred.
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Well, hey, good morning and welcome back. It's Dan McDonald.
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Happy Monday, everybody, Thanks so much for tuning in. You're listening to
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the Dan like Donald's Shoe on AM eight hundred c KLW want to welcome back
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a round table to the studio soon to be third year political science student,
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third year for real? Is it third year already? Shade them a lot,
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wow year number three unreal wild. Thank you for joining us. Author
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Vanessa Shields in studio and host here on AM eight hundred. I believe it's
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going to be in for me next week and also host of ros City Politics,
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mister John Lidkey in the studio. Good morning, So this is a
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it's a newspool today. A lot of complaints every summer we see this over
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road construction and the newspool. Are you frustrated with the amount of road construction
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and Windsor Essex? And then further to that, what is something that gives
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you road rage? Or do you get road rage? Some people are immune
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to it. I used to be, and it teeters a lot. Does
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kind of just reflect off me now and then I get mad. I'll tell
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you what mine is shortly. But construction, John, do you get ticked
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off at construction? I mean, no, one likes to be delayed where
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you're going and whatnot. But I don't let it get overwhelming for me.
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I usually try to give myself a little bit more time in case. And
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also we live in Windsor, right, so it takes five minutes across the
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city, so true. I think that the problem though, is if you're
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planning for five minutes to get across the city, so you leave at like
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nine to fifty five to be somewhere at ten, Yeah, and there's construction
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and it's like a twenty five to thirty minute thing. Like oh no,
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I love how people get really upset about zipper merging and how like Mike here
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on the station such this issue. No one knows how to do it.
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Yeah, I am the opposite. I love that no one knows how to
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do it. I use the opportunity to drive in front of forty five Carson.
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Everyone else is just driving bonkers. Told like this because he's gonna have
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an issue. He here's this. I'm the one practicing the zipper merge correctly.
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You're not just gonna stop. So anyways, maybe I'm the cause of
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road ridge. You could be you know what, just learnt a zip No,
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don't learn I like it because you'll always be at the front of the
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lines front. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Fine if it's a car.
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But I got almost zipper crunched by a huge truck on uh o Lette
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there, and I like, seriously, my life flashed before my eyes and
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he was not moving. I had it like I almost had to go off
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the road onto the grass. This person was going anyway. Yes, so
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yeah, same thing for me if I just have to sort of know where
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all the construction is happening and then figure out my routes. Do I have
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road rage? Yes? Do you really? But I also have children in
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the car with me a lot of the times, so I have to you
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know, don't cry out loud as they say, and why road right my
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swearing? But no, I think for me, So I knew we were
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going to talk about this. So on the way here today, four drivers
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went through legitimate red lights. So as a parent who has two children who
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are in the car and learning how to drive, the rule now is,
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don't go when it turns green, way to beat. Make sure that the
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people who are going through the reds have gone through the reds, and then
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you can go. Four people And I'm not talking like it's yellow going to
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be turning. I was stopped at the yellow and it turned red and a
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guy blew right by me four times, and I like, I took one
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road to get here. That was all on dominion. Doogle Google to wow
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four times. It's terrifying and blowing by this is like yeah, turning to
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like just the you know that if there's an advanced green, just keep anymore
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three more cars so dangerous, Like I get it, the one that's stuck
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in the intersection. When the advanced green turns, then make your turn.
21:34
But you'll have, like I've been there before, in the middle it's red.
21:37
So I'm in the middle I'll go, but then there'll be like three
21:41
cars who went after me. You're still going, absolutely, And that is
21:45
a that is a thing in winter that I've noticed. And construction, Yeah,
21:49
I mean I was in Toronto. It took me an hour and a
21:52
half to go six kilometers in Toronto and waiting, so coming here, construction.
21:57
I just keep that in mind. I'm like, Okay, we're not
22:00
in Toronto, We're not in New York like construction everywhere all the time.
22:03
But yeah, no, no, just very like unknowledgeable drivers in general.
22:07
Yeah, that's what gives me road rage. I hear you now, Jada.
22:11
I'm trying to picture envision you with road rage right now, because you're
22:15
always a vision of calm and peace. Okay, well, do you get
22:18
road rage? I sometimes I will admit I do get road rage. I
22:22
think most of it comes from the fact that when I go to school,
22:23
when I drive to the university, I take riverside drive, so it's most
22:27
of it is one lane. So if I'm stuck behind someone going like thirty
22:30
five kilometers an hour, I'm gonna get a little bit of road rage.
22:33
But I do end up getting there. It's fine. Like at the end
22:37
of the day, you're only like three or four minutes behind when you'd expect
22:40
to be there before. So I try and let it flow over my head.
22:42
Right. And another thing though, is I like to be a very
22:47
courteous driver. I have a huge fear of making people upset on the road.
22:52
That's why I got my windows hinted, because I'm like, if I
22:56
if I mess up and I'm stuck with you at a red light and don't
23:00
look at me, please, I'm like, I'm burning lasers into the into
23:06
my windshield in front of me, like I don't want to look at you.
23:07
That's my biggest fear is being stuck in an intersection when the light's red
23:11
and I'm stuck, especially at five o'clock when I'm coming home from work on
23:15
the country road. Biggest fear ever, my heart's like pounding when it starts
23:19
to turn yellow and I'm like stuck in the intersection because I want to be
23:22
nice. And also side note, I don't know how to parallel park.
23:29
I will circle the block as many times as possible until I can like pull
23:33
in somewhere, so that also gives me road right, you need a box
23:36
of face masks in the car exactly covered up in the middle of an intersection.
23:44
If I get if I get hunked out, I call my dad.
23:47
I'm crying. I'm like I do hate that too, though, when you
23:51
when you I want some. It was my negligence. I kind of was.
23:56
I breaked not soon enough and had my break skitded kind of and I
24:00
almost rear into the car in front of me. Was like, oh God,
24:02
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, like my bad, my bed. I
24:03
was fine, but I had to do the er made a horrible noise and
24:07
then I driving very carefully behind the very tune. I gave like the I'm
24:11
sorry wave. And then I was in the next lane and I was out
24:14
of red light with them, and they were next to me, and I
24:15
too, is the lasers in the front window. Don't look at me?
24:18
And I can see the person looking at me, just waiting to make eye
24:21
contact. I'm like, oh s fine, so today, well every day,
24:25
not to just today. Whenever I come to the station, I'm coming
24:27
from downtown, so heading southbound here on Alette and you get to the station,
24:33
you got to make a left to go into it. But that's like
24:34
the left beginning of the turn. Lane onto it to come roads right,
24:38
and there's always so many cars coming at you, and you only have a
24:41
little brief second between when the advance ends and the other cars don't start coming,
24:47
and it's just like, well, I can see that there's one hundred
24:49
and ninety seven cars behind me right now, and they're all just trying to
24:53
get around to go to the left. Yeah. Oh I feel really bad
24:56
about that. And I think, you know, I could just go and
24:59
make a left at the intersection before it and go around and then make a
25:03
right into the parking lot. But right, yeah, they can all just
25:06
look no, I hear my road rage thing. And I don't get road
25:08
reade very often. But the one that I've noticed is really really really slow
25:15
right turns. When you're behind somebody and they have a right turn, there's
25:18
no one in front of them, like they have a clear turn. Go
25:21
one guy, Like I finally I had to. I beat the horn.
25:23
I was like, oh my god, like like complete the turn already,
25:27
but like are you rolling? What are you doing here? Did you shut
25:30
the engine off? And just coasting on a fumes? Like what is going
25:33
on with the slow right turns? And it's a thing and now that I
25:36
put that out there, you're going to notice this. This is something that's
25:38
getting worse. Is this? I notice that you and it drives me.
25:41
I don't know what does I get triggered with that? Slow driving is definitely
25:44
what gets me now that I think about it. It's slow driving because I
25:47
do like using my horn. Do you you do use your horn? Oh?
25:48
Yes? And then you get stopped next to me a red light?
25:51
Yeah yeah, And then I'm like, yeah, yeah, there's a tear,
25:53
just quiet tears stream the one who honked at you, Dan, Are
25:57
you Are you ever concerned like that? You know, you're a You're a
26:02
well known person in the city. Maybe people don't recognize you, but they'll
26:04
certainly recognize your voice. Are you ever concerned that like you're driving is a
26:11
reflection? Yes, like, oh that's damn, damnit. Donald just talked
26:15
at me. What the hell? Well, now I'm near New Fear unlocked
26:19
John, Thank you for that. I'll never honk it a person again.
26:22
What I something that I do I've always employed though my driver's ed instructor told
26:26
me this I was sixteen. He said, don't shoot the finger if somebody
26:30
beeps at you. I've never wait, waved to them, he said.
26:33
Then they get freaked out thinking if they shoot you the finger, don't shoot
26:36
it back way back at them. Then they get freaked out thinking, oh
26:38
my god, I just shot the finger to somebody who knows me because they
26:41
waved at me. So I will. I never shot the finger at anybody
26:45
in my life ever, just not even in my car. No, I'm
26:47
like, way too scared. Yeah, me too, way too scared.
26:49
Well you even hear what stories. I did a segment on this once.
26:52
I said, have you ever had a a interaction with the driver where it
26:56
got aggressive and they followed you and somebody had that exacts got punched in the
27:00
face? Oh man, like he They stopped at the next place to stop,
27:04
the guy pulled up behind him, got out and like did this to
27:07
roll like roll the window down, and the guy was like I think he
27:11
was like twenty young young kid like the in the car. Right. The
27:15
guy punched him in the face, he had like a black eye, totally
27:18
assaulted him, then got his vehicle and left like not cool. That's that's
27:22
right. Well that's what I think of. So I'm like, if someone
27:25
has the whatever energy it takes to shoot the finger at me. Anything can
27:30
escalate from there. Yeah, it's true. So yeah, we had somebody.
27:33
She and the woman called in the show and she said somebody cut her
27:36
off or something. They were in the wrong, and she shot him the
27:37
finger. And then that person followed her and she didn't go home. She
27:41
like, she's like this person, So she drove around for a bit,
27:45
just me. That happened to you? What happened? Yeah, So I
27:48
was into com see and I didn't realize that the road was ending, so
27:52
I had to speed up. Maybe I should have slowed down now that I
27:56
think about it, but I had to speed up, and I think I
27:57
cut him off a little bit. It was a grot of teenage boys.
28:02
Oh boy. So I was with my little sister and they were like extremely
28:04
close to me, and I was like, I bet you they're going to
28:07
follow So instead of going home, I turned left into a neighborhood and I
28:10
was driving through the neighborhood and yes, they were following me. So I
28:12
ended up pulling into a driveway and I don't know if that's a good idea
28:17
now looking back, but they ended up to keep going, so oh wow.
28:19
But I knew they were following me, like I was circling the block
28:22
and they kept following the same route, but I ended up pulling in someone's
28:25
driveway and they ended up going away. That's free, but yeah, the
28:27
way you can escalate, you just never know, right, So it's probably
28:30
better safe not to. I get people taking pictures of my car because of
28:33
all the bumper stickers I have. Oh so sometimes if I notice it,
28:37
I'll like do a peace sign and like look in my rear view mirror and
28:41
be like hey with that. That's kind of fun. Yes, but my
28:44
husband's always like, you don't want them to hit, like be driving,
28:47
see your stickers and then like bump into you. Luckily that has not happened.
28:51
But yeah, so I do get a lot of people looking at my
28:53
car because it's covered in beautiful stickers. I love it. We got to
28:57
take a really quick break. We'll come back, John Lindy, Vanessa Shields,
29:00
Jadam a lot. Keep it here. It's the Dan McDonald Show on
29:03
AM eight hundred. Hey, good morning and welcome back. It's Dan McDonald.
29:07
Welcome back to our roundtable as well. Jada Malt, John Lyddkey,
29:11
Vanessa shield So meta you know, Facebook, Instagram, other social media they
29:15
now have an AI component. I noticed it too, where your search bar
29:19
used to be on Facebook. This is where I notice it most. It
29:21
says like ask meta, and it kind of messed me up a few times,
29:26
but whatever, It's one of those things I don't really care too much.
29:27
But privacy centers are saying it saves any messages you send the AI assistant
29:33
and details about it so it can carry on the conversation, which I do
29:37
think is neat, like, hey, Dan, I noticed last time you
29:38
asked me about this author further to that conversation creepy, But I guess this
29:45
is the world we live in. But what do you think the future holds
29:48
for AI integration into social media and how might it evolve? Do you think
29:52
in terms of functionality and privacy concerns? And Jada, I want to start
29:56
with you as a digital citizen, someone who has always had some kind of
30:00
online presence for the most part. Right, you kind of group with yeah,
30:03
unfortunately, what are your thoughts on the role AI plays in everyday life?
30:06
Now? Okay, so with AI, like the thing that meta has,
30:10
what I think about and what I see coming is companies being able to
30:14
get in on the AI and the information about you so that AI can start
30:18
selling stuff to you directly. I feel like it's going to be like,
30:21
you know, when you're like talking about something like you're talking about like secret
30:23
deodorant, and then you go on your Instagram there's a secrets secret ad.
30:27
I feel like it's going to be that times a million. But I also
30:30
think that the AI being able to curate things even more accurately online is going
30:36
to pull people deeper into disinformation campaigns. We were talking about this last time,
30:41
where you're surrounded by only the information that you want to absorb and that
30:45
you think is true, and you're not exposed to any other ideas, any
30:48
other even brands. You're not even exposed to any other brands, and you
30:52
kind of just get sunk into this hole where it's just you, yourself and
30:55
your AI. Right. Yeah, I think that's the biggest problem with you
30:57
do. And uh, the the one way I noticed that it works well
31:02
is the most I post about on my on my Facebook we'll use is music.
31:06
And now all the ads are so tightly honed to bands that I like
31:11
who are coming to town. So in a way, it kind of is
31:14
a cool service for me, like they notice who I post about a lot
31:15
and like, hey Dan, did you know they're playing at Magic Stick Detroit
31:18
on June twenty eighth? And it's like, oh, I didn't know that?
31:21
Sorry? Can I just start you there? When you're saying they say,
31:23
hey Dan, did you know? I'm not on social media? So
31:26
is something actually coming up? It'll be an ad like okay, like did
31:30
you know that so and so is playing? I'm like, oh, I
31:33
listen to this band all the time. And that's so greg. It's it's
31:37
honed. It's it's geared directly to me, which is creepy, but it
31:40
also like, as a service, it works. But the problem that you
31:42
mentioned, Jada is it's it's other things too, like disinformation. It gets
31:47
you deeper and deeper, and it kind of puts you in your own little
31:48
bubble, yes, which is not a great place to be. I do
31:52
agree that being able to like, really like curate to your interests is definitely
31:57
very interesting, but I but my main concern is just I always want to
32:01
make sure that people have two sides of a story. Especially as a political
32:06
science student, we learn a lot about how when you're only being pulled in
32:08
one and you can really get sunk into disinformation. So yeah, that's where
32:14
the AI is a bit concerning to me. If any student at the University
32:16
of Windsor is interested about learning about AI. I took a really really good
32:21
class with Marcelo Guarini philosophy class. I believe it's called ethics an AI or
32:25
are something similar, But it was like, I don't want to get into
32:29
it because it was very, very deep. I didn't end up taking the
32:32
actual class. He taught about it a little bit in a class that I
32:36
took with him, but it was extremely interesting. He talks about like,
32:39
now that AI is like becoming more human, are we going to have to
32:43
start having like ethical morals towards AI, which is again very deep. It's
32:47
only ten o'clock in the morning, so I won't get into it. That's
32:50
very interesting course, Yeah, those are cool conversations. Are you How are
32:53
you without social media? Vanessa? Well, it's been over two years now,
32:59
and I can tell you that there's still a part in my brain when
33:01
something's happening, Like there's some beautiful poppies in our flower garden that was like
33:07
you should take a picture and post it on Instagram and show these beautiful poppies.
33:10
So even after two years of not doing that, that call to action
33:16
is still inside me, and I just go no v. Just you can
33:20
take the picture, that's fine, but just enjoy the poppies. That but
33:24
it's a good time. I mean, people people use it for a lot
33:31
of great things. For me, I think as a creative person, I
33:37
worry about people's ability for curiosity. Everything is honing into you know, you
33:44
keep say red, red, red, red, and all you're getting is
33:45
red, red, red. And you're also not taking your own initiative and
33:51
using your own curiosity to consider blue or green or whatever else. What is
33:55
that doing to our brains and our own like ability to think and ask questions?
34:00
So to me, that's the scary like I have goosebumps. That's the
34:04
scariest part about AI for me. I know there's a lot of great,
34:07
positive functions and good things that AI can do. However, at its root,
34:14
if we are not thinking on our own and constantly asking something else or
34:20
someone else to answer for us or find the answer for us, what is
34:24
that doing to our ability to think and do the work, and you know,
34:31
not be lazy with our curiosity and our consciousness about what's going on in
34:37
the world. That's the level that I'm always at, and it freaks me
34:40
out. You know, it's yeah, it's pretty terrifying. And also,
34:45
oh sorry, I stop your thoughts, John. I think like I use
34:52
AI fairly often from Roastly Politics. We use it to generate images just as
34:55
our for the podcast episodes. Last week, I I sent off a proposal
35:00
for a big project that I'm working on, and I was able to use
35:04
AI to pretty well write the whole proposal and then pull that up and go
35:07
through it and edit it and you know, yeah, see so that it
35:13
absolutely but I don't like leave it out of my social media. Everyone's baking
35:17
this stuff into everything so quickly. Not a fan on Google. When I
35:21
first got my Google phone a number of years ago, I set it up
35:23
with you know, the radio stations that I like, the news sources that
35:27
I like. They had like an assistant type thing, not AI, but
35:30
you know, you sure, and I'm able to go, hey, okay,
35:34
Google, play me the latest news now. When it switched over the
35:37
Google Gemini, it was like, oh, I'm sorry, I can't do
35:42
that. I don't know what news is. And it was like what we've
35:45
gone backwards in time here. So it has great uses, but like I
35:50
think it's being baked way too quickly into stuff. And I mean, I'm
35:52
there's so many ethical conversations that you need to have about it, not just
35:58
the actual like conversation of what happens to us as humanity, because as it
36:02
continues to evolve and eventually leap bound over us, what is it when we're
36:08
not the dominant life form anymore on the planet. I mean, yeah,
36:10
it's pretty heavy stuff. Yeah, speaking speaking of what you were what you
36:15
were saying, John, Like, one of my concerns as a student is
36:20
being flagged for using AI when I wasn't. I've seen a lot of horror
36:22
stories about that where they write a four thousand word paper and then they hand
36:27
it in and like we have like the university has like an AI like plagiarism
36:30
like detector and I hasn't happened so far as I know at the university,
36:36
but a couple other students from other Ontario universities have been flagged like this is
36:39
one hundred percent AI and like no, it's not. Wow, right,
36:44
so that you prove that on the other side, how do you know No,
36:47
that's because you can. You can get kicked out of school for that.
36:50
Oh. Absolutely, yeah, that's freaky. It's going to be very
36:53
interesting, to say the very least of how this is as it unrolls further.
36:58
We always in the roundtable. This segment I call play and you can
37:00
plug in anything you like. It can be project, you're working on,
37:04
a shout out that you want to give anything at all. I see people
37:06
gathering their notes, But Vanessa, would you like to plug in this morning?
37:08
Oh? Go go come back to me, Jada, what would you
37:10
like to plug in this? Okay? So, first of all, I
37:13
want to say congratulations to the town of tocome See for a wonderful weekend of
37:17
Taste of to Come See. I was there. It was beautiful, the
37:22
music was awesome. And shout out to the Optimist Club as well for volunteering.
37:24
We were sitting at a little table and you have your little cup that
37:28
you drank your drink out of, and then someone comes up and takes your
37:30
garbage and it's like, wow, I feel like I'm getting a plus service.
37:34
So congratulations. I love Taste to Come See. My second time going.
37:37
I wonder if the jumbugs also have to pay to get in with her
37:39
a lot. Yes, but that's okay. You look past it, you
37:42
have a couple of drinks and then they're just specks in the sky. It's
37:45
very true. And then also I want to shout out to everyone to possibly
37:47
turn on your TV's tonight and watch the Edmonton Oilers try and win another game.
37:52
Nineteen ninety three was the last time that the Stanley Cup was in Canada,
37:55
so let's cheer on our Canadian team and hope we can bring it back
37:59
to our country. I hope so great. Great having on the show is
38:01
always Jada Vanessa. What would you like to plug in? Okay, it's
38:05
kind of a wide thing, but says the weather's going to be bonkers hot.
38:08
Shout out to free water fun in Windsor, Essex County. We've got
38:13
so many beautiful beaches, Colchester Beach, so many great pools. The splash
38:17
pad at Jackson Park is always just good, filled with wonderful fun. There's
38:22
a splash pad in Amersburg. So yeah, just shout out to like local
38:27
beautiful places that we can go that are free to share in cooling down and
38:32
supporting the small businesses in and around those free places to cool down. Please
38:37
don't steal anything you're at the establishments. I keep the glass and plate and
38:43
in silverware. Yeah, I love that, though there are plenty of great
38:45
places like that. I pretty have a fleet free water fun. I love
38:47
that. Great shout out, Last, but not least, John, what
38:51
would you like to plug in? You should take a listen to ros City
38:55
Politics. We I don't know when we broadcast anymore. It's summer. We're
39:00
in summer hours. It's completely different. But you can subscribe to it and
39:02
you'll get a push notification. Also, yeah, you know, just just
39:06
be nice people, don't steal things from people. That sucks. Yes,
39:08
agree totally. Well, Hey, John, Vanessa and Jada, thank you
39:12
so much for a fun roundtable. More conversation on the way. Keep it
39:15
here. It's the Dan McDonald's show on AM