Latest / The M&M Experience / Monday October 19 2026 | France on Fire, Magic at the Movies, Press Secretary Battle
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to A Meeting of the Minds, crafted from decades
- 0:05Speaker 1: of talk show experience. An extension of the magic they've
- 0:08Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M & M.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Hot topics in the news and wisdom from life. It's
- 0:16Speaker 1: Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is M & M Extra.
- 0:22Speaker 2: We are. It is Monday. It is the 19th day
- 0:26Speaker 2: of October. There is excitement in the breeze, early voting
- 0:29Speaker 2: underway in Texas and maybe where you are as well.
- 0:31Speaker 2: And always coming off a weekend, there's a ton of
- 0:33Speaker 2: things we can do. So before we dive in, make
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- 0:54Speaker 2: start there. Did you hear her?
- 1:03Speaker 3: Over the weekend, we got an email from a lady
- 1:06Speaker 3: who was inspired by our messaging for Preborn, and she
- 1:09Speaker 3: donated $ 15, 000 as an individual to provide another ultrasound machine.
- 1:17Speaker 3: I did.
- 1:18Speaker 2: I saw it.
- 1:19Speaker 3: That means this audience has now generated $ 30, 000 at least.
- 1:24Speaker 3: An ultrasound machine costs $ 15, 000. So between this wonderful, wonderful
- 1:30Speaker 3: lady who I'm desperately trying to track down, you emailed
- 1:33Speaker 3: her a note of thanks. Did she ever write, did
- 1:35Speaker 3: she write you back?
- 1:36Speaker 2: I don't know because that was like late yesterday. I
- 1:38Speaker 2: saw this back and forth of emails between you and management.
- 1:42Speaker 2: And I thought, well, she was more familiar with you
- 1:44Speaker 2: than with me.
- 1:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:46Speaker 2: But she heard about it on our shared podcast experience.
- 1:48Speaker 2: So I thought, man, I'm going to make sure that
- 1:50Speaker 2: I copy you and send her a thing to tell
- 1:52Speaker 2: her how grateful we were for her kindness.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Well, we sure are. And I'm going to continue to
- 1:57Speaker 3: reach out to her. If you are listening, ma'am, please
- 1:59Speaker 3: read our emails that we've sent to you because I'd
- 2:02Speaker 3: love to be able to pick up the phone and
- 2:04Speaker 3: call you. Look, there's just no audience like this audience,
- 2:07Speaker 3: and I think we've kind of stumbled upon something pretty special,
- 2:11Speaker 3: and that's called M & M Extra. We have a
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- 2:27Speaker 3: Thanks for making Eminem extra part of your day, and
- 2:30Speaker 3: thank you for saving lives. Big football weekend. Your Cowboys
- 2:36Speaker 3: not so hot in 2026, Mr. Davis.
- 2:39Speaker 2: But it's the worst division in football. Nobody thinks the
- 2:42Speaker 2: Giants are going to win the NFC East, and the
- 2:45Speaker 2: Eagles just lost their quarterback, Jalen Hurts. There's controversy in Philadelphia.
- 2:49Speaker 2: He's not out with a broken leg or anything. He's
- 2:51Speaker 2: got like spots on his lung that need treatment. So
- 2:55Speaker 2: every prayer for him there, the Redskins remain terrible. They're
- 3:00Speaker 2: going to lose tonight to San Francisco. So the Cowboys,
- 3:02Speaker 2: if they could just develop 10 minutes of competency and
- 3:05Speaker 2: just learn to tackle again and move the ball, they'll
- 3:09Speaker 2: probably win the division with a record of eight and nine.
- 3:12Speaker 2: So but I'll tell you, if there's any place that's
- 3:14Speaker 2: a little more panicky than that, It might be in
- 3:16Speaker 2: the college world where both Texas and Alabama have both
- 3:19Speaker 2: lost two in a row. Texas losing to Florida, unranked
- 3:23Speaker 2: Florida in Austin. It was a very, very weird weekend.
- 3:27Speaker 2: I had a weird weekend. I walked over to the
- 3:31Speaker 2: movie theater. I live not too far from a movie theater,
- 3:34Speaker 2: so I can kind of stroll over. to one of
- 3:37Speaker 2: those friendly AMC big reclining seat environments. And I took me,
- 3:42Speaker 2: I took me in. You can see everything. And wow,
- 3:48Speaker 2: Mark game changer. one of the most incredible movies I've
- 3:52Speaker 2: ever seen. It's going to change the nature of documentary
- 3:56Speaker 2: filmmaking because it was shot like a full-fledged, you know,
- 4:01Speaker 2: big-budget movie. This woman, Elizabeth Holmes, who was the driving
- 4:06Speaker 2: force along with Sonny somebody, the Indian guy, I forget
- 4:09Speaker 2: his last name, they came up with, what's the third?
- 4:15Speaker 3: Theranos. And it was a medical device that was supposedly
- 4:19Speaker 3: going to be able to diagnose all kinds of disease
- 4:23Speaker 3: from a blood test.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Just a tiny, tiny prick of blood. It was supposed
- 4:28Speaker 2: to be revolutionary, but it was all a fraud and
- 4:30Speaker 2: she got convicted and went to jail.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Well, so she wants to tell her story right before
- 4:35Speaker 3: she goes to jail. So she invites this comedian, Nathan Fielder,
- 4:39Speaker 3: into her home. And he lived with them for the
- 4:42Speaker 3: last couple of weeks before she goes off to prison.
- 4:45Speaker 3: She's still in prison in Texas. She's in Bryan, Texas.
- 4:49Speaker 2: In a minimum security federal lockup.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Uh-huh. I don't want to give anything away other than
- 4:55Speaker 3: I will tell you it's revolutionary filmmaking. You're either going
- 5:01Speaker 3: to love it or you're not. Now, I've just been
- 5:02Speaker 3: reading some reviews before we started the podcast today of
- 5:05Speaker 3: people who hated it.
- 5:06Speaker 2: There are people who don't like it. Those are just
- 5:08Speaker 2: contrarian jerks. Or not. I mean, I don't want to
- 5:13Speaker 2: be a contrarian jerk. There is a phenomenon. That if
- 5:17Speaker 2: everybody loves something, some people just have to be the
- 5:21Speaker 2: a-hole and go, well, I don't. You know what occurs
- 5:24Speaker 2: to me? Ella Langley with her wonderful song Choose in Texas,
- 5:28Speaker 2: one of the great country records of the last decade.
- 5:31Speaker 2: And she's also just drop dead gorgeous. So there's another
- 5:33Speaker 2: reason for a whole lot of people with no life.
- 5:35Speaker 2: to hate on her. I think that's a lot of
- 5:38Speaker 2: what that phenomenon is. I have, I'm filled with curiosity
- 5:41Speaker 2: because this is without a doubt, the most talked about
- 5:44Speaker 2: movie in years. It's a three hour documentary. And I,
- 5:49Speaker 2: and I don't even know what y'all are talking about
- 5:51Speaker 2: when you talk about it is life changing or I'm,
- 5:53Speaker 2: what can it be? What can it do? And I
- 5:55Speaker 2: will find, I promise I will find out for myself,
- 5:57Speaker 2: Lisa and I will go this week. It might be Friday.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Cause it's a busy week, but I will, I will
- 6:02Speaker 2: add my voice to yours and tell you as soon
- 6:04Speaker 2: as I can, what I think of this thing, because
- 6:06Speaker 2: it is apparently just Trailblazing.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Well, and if you just go into it with the
- 6:12Speaker 3: perspective of saying, I want to see this movie that
- 6:16Speaker 3: everybody's talking about just from the filmmaking aspect, you know,
- 6:19Speaker 3: just from the technique that they use, the editing, the music.
- 6:24Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a remarkable, remarkable movie. So it's
- 6:29Speaker 3: called You Can See Everything.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Can you explain that? Does it give anything away to
- 6:33Speaker 2: explain the title? What does the title mean?
- 6:35Speaker 3: No. Well, I think it means you see– I think
- 6:39Speaker 3: it's inherent in the title that you're seeing her behind
- 6:43Speaker 3: the scenes. You're seeing the way she sees the world.
- 6:46Speaker 3: I mean, no. The short answer is I can't answer
- 6:48Speaker 3: that entirely.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Basically, it's a no-holds-barred, lift the curtain. Here's– you said
- 6:55Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. How long did he live with her?
- 6:57Speaker 2: I thought it was like months before she went to jail.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Well, it's 33 days. The film takes place for a
- 7:03Speaker 3: period of 33 days. Now, I will give one spoiler
- 7:07Speaker 3: alert because it's worth letting this audience know this because
- 7:10Speaker 3: this audience loves Charlie Kirk.
- 7:12Speaker 2: This audience.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Well, it's not her. It's Amanda— is it Seyfried? Yeah, the actress.
- 7:19Speaker 3: The actress, who plays a huge role in this documentary. Wow.
- 7:23Speaker 2: What does she have to do with it?
- 7:24Speaker 3: She played— apparently she played Elizabeth Holmes in some cheesy movie.
- 7:28Speaker 3: I think it's called The Dropout. Well, then the filmmaker
- 7:31Speaker 3: invites her to play— Elizabeth Holmes in recreations that they
- 7:37Speaker 3: do toward the end of the movie. And they do
- 7:39Speaker 3: the recreations for a reason. I'm not going to tell
- 7:42Speaker 3: you what that is right now.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Gotcha.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Gotcha. But in the course of Amanda Seyfried's, am I
- 7:46Speaker 3: saying her last name right, Mark?
- 7:48Speaker 2: I think so.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Siegfried? No, Seyfried.
- 7:51Speaker 2: S-E-Y-F-R-I-E.
- 7:53Speaker 3: So is it Siegfried, I guess.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Seyfried. And she's a talented young actress. Eric is saying
- 8:00Speaker 3: it's Seyfried. I think it's Seyfried. But anyway, she opines
- 8:05Speaker 3: about how much she hated Charlie Kirk.
- 8:07Speaker 2: How about Seyfried? Seyfried? Okay.
- 8:12Speaker 3: She opines that she hated Charlie. And she thought he
- 8:15Speaker 3: was all performative. So there's a shot taken at our
- 8:19Speaker 3: friend and colleague Charlie Kirk. So that's baked into the cake.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Okay.
- 8:24Speaker 3: But, but that, but incidentally, she's also characterized by many
- 8:28Speaker 3: who analyze the movie as the real villain of the movie.
- 8:32Speaker 3: So that may be part of it.
- 8:34Speaker 2: An actress ends up being the villain of the movie.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. Because of the role she plays strong opinions. And,
- 8:41Speaker 3: and incidentally, Billy, Elizabeth Holmes partner. He admitted, I'm a
- 8:46Speaker 3: huge Charlie Kirk fan. They started arguing about Charlie. So
- 8:51Speaker 3: there's that moment. That's all I'm going to give away.
- 8:53Speaker 3: That's all I'm doing. That's all I'm doing. That's all
- 8:55Speaker 3: I'm doing.
- 8:55Speaker 2: Here's what's crazy. Because you mentioned review aggregate sites are interesting.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not really familiar. I mean, I've heard of
- 9:03Speaker 2: Rotten Tomatoes a million times. But is that reviewers plus
- 9:07Speaker 2: the public?
- 9:09Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 9:09Speaker 2: I don't really know.
- 9:09Speaker 3: I think it's a combination.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I think it's a combination. And you can't trust either
- 9:13Speaker 2: one because people in the pub– I love the public.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Look what we do for a living. But you'll find
- 9:18Speaker 2: jackwagons trying to tank reviews by giving something a zero
- 9:22Speaker 2: or people overpraising stuff for stupid reasons. Reviewers certainly have
- 9:26Speaker 2: a spotty history, but they do this for a living.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:31Speaker 2: And in that, I find the following observation. There is
- 9:34Speaker 2: a site called Metacritic, M-E-T-A, Metacritic. It is a compendium.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Like for this movie or any other movie, every review
- 9:43Speaker 2: in a major newspaper, bam, here they are. And what
- 9:46Speaker 2: they do is they assign a numerical score to a review.
- 9:51Speaker 2: If they see a review from a reviewer that thinks
- 9:54Speaker 2: a movie is pretty good but not that great, that
- 9:56Speaker 2: might be a 50. If they think it's really bad,
- 10:00Speaker 2: really rough, but not so horrible, maybe that's a 20.
- 10:03Speaker 2: If they think it's absolutely fantastic, that's maybe an 80
- 10:08Speaker 2: or an 85 or a 90. If they think it's
- 10:09Speaker 2: off the charts great, only that will get you 100, okay?
- 10:13Speaker 2: So even a pretty darn great movie will have some detractors.
- 10:18Speaker 2: If you see a Metacritic score overall of 80, it's
- 10:22Speaker 2: going to be fantastic. I mean, 75, 80, 85, that's
- 10:26Speaker 2: something that reviewers have generally loved. Do you know what
- 10:29Speaker 2: the Metacritic total is on You Can See Everything?
- 10:32Speaker 3: 99. 99.
- 10:33Speaker 2: That's not possible.
- 10:37Speaker 4: I know.
- 10:37Speaker 3: That's what I mean. It's off the charts good. And
- 10:40Speaker 3: by the way, I'm getting chills at the way you're
- 10:43Speaker 3: describing Metacritic because I talked to my, I love him.
- 10:46Speaker 3: He's been in my life, my whole life, but he
- 10:49Speaker 3: is a liberal Democrat, but he's my cousin Paul. Someday
- 10:53Speaker 3: before I die, I'm going to have cousin Paul come
- 10:56Speaker 3: on the show.
- 10:56Speaker 2: I'll bet he'd come on. That would be lovely.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Because he's a wonderful man and we love each other.
- 11:01Speaker 3: And he always respects my career. He's a traditional Massachusetts Democrat.
- 11:07Speaker 2: All right.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Yep. But he's a great guy. And he's eclectic and
- 11:12Speaker 3: he's kind of a renaissance man.
- 11:13Speaker 2: He does everything.
- 11:14Speaker 3: Anyway, my cousin Paul and I were catching up over
- 11:17Speaker 3: the weekend. And he was telling me about Metacritic and
- 11:20Speaker 3: that's the first I'd heard of it. So that's why
- 11:23Speaker 3: when you went into the Metacritic explanation, I knew all
- 11:25Speaker 3: about it.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Go find any movie you have loved or not. And
- 11:28Speaker 2: I mean, back through time, I mean, they've been at
- 11:30Speaker 2: this for a while. I think they do reviews of
- 11:32Speaker 2: even old movies and just see what the overall landscape
- 11:36Speaker 2: of all reviewers have ever thought about it. And you'll be.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Entertained by that. Do you have a favorite movie? If
- 11:42Speaker 3: I had to put you on the spot and say,
- 11:44Speaker 3: what's your favorite movie of all time? What is your
- 11:47Speaker 3: favorite movie?
- 11:47Speaker 2: This is a running bit with Lisa and me.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:52Speaker 2: I infuriate her with my constant sidestepping of questions like that.
- 12:00Speaker 2: And here's why. What's your favorite food? What's your favorite color?
- 12:05Speaker 2: What's your favorite movie? I instantly began to hyperanalyze it
- 12:10Speaker 2: because for what's your favorite color? It kind of depends.
- 12:13Speaker 2: For clothes? For a car? For a room?
- 12:15Speaker 3: It depends.
- 12:16Speaker 2: For favorite movie, I mean, that seems so horribly unfair.
- 12:21Speaker 2: I mean, from The Exorcist to E.T. to Patton. to
- 12:27Speaker 2: Saving Private Ryan, to Godfather 1. Those would be in
- 12:32Speaker 2: the discussion. But to identify just one, I just don't
- 12:36Speaker 2: think I could do it. Could you? Well, it depends
- 12:38Speaker 2: on the mood I'm in. Unless this is it now.
- 12:41Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Well, it's a great one. No, you know what my
- 12:44Speaker 3: favorite movie of all time is? And I've said this before,
- 12:46Speaker 3: and I think I was drawn to it only because
- 12:48Speaker 3: the main character's name is Mike Gallagher. Do you remember
- 12:52Speaker 3: a movie about a character named Named Mike Gallagher, played
- 12:57Speaker 3: by Paul Newman. I'm giving you a big hint here.
- 13:00Speaker 2: You have. I'm going to know the movie, but I've
- 13:04Speaker 2: just forgotten the character that he played. You'll know the movie.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't make the– because we didn't know each
- 13:09Speaker 3: other when the movie came out, so you wouldn't have
- 13:11Speaker 3: made that. Absence of Malice. Oh, Sally Field.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 13:15Speaker 3: It's Sally Field, Paul Newman, Wilford Brimley– The other guy
- 13:21Speaker 3: whose name I forget, the character actor, it's one of
- 13:24Speaker 3: the greatest ensemble casts I've ever seen.
- 13:27Speaker 2: It's about journalism and about a libel case and blah, blah, blah.
- 13:31Speaker 3: That's right. And where you go to get your reputation back,
- 13:34Speaker 3: if you've been wronged in the media. There's something about
- 13:37Speaker 3: it that just speaks to me with regards to– I
- 13:40Speaker 3: think it has to do with what we do for
- 13:42Speaker 3: a living, Mark. But I loved that movie.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Michael Gallagher, there he is. There's a line in it.
- 13:47Speaker 2: This is so weird that you brought this up. There's
- 13:49Speaker 2: a line in it because Stupid Movie was made in 1981. Stupid,
- 13:52Speaker 2: I don't mean stupid. Been around for a long time.
- 13:55Speaker 2: There's a line in it spoken, I think, by him
- 13:57Speaker 2: where I think she is Sally Field, the journalist, and
- 14:00Speaker 2: Megan Carter, is she the.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Yeah, Sally Field's the reporter. And yeah, and Wilford Brimley
- 14:05Speaker 3: comes in for one of the most powerful closing scenes
- 14:07Speaker 3: you'll ever see in a movie.
- 14:09Speaker 2: So it's about libel and slander and all these things,
- 14:11Speaker 2: a pretty fascinating subject matter. And somebody talks about journalism...
- 14:16Speaker 2: as representing the truth. And I believe it's the Paul
- 14:18Speaker 2: Newman character who says journalism doesn't report the truth. Journalism
- 14:22Speaker 2: just reports what people say. Which is undeniably true. That's
- 14:27Speaker 2: exactly right. Because the truth, I don't want to say
- 14:29Speaker 2: the truth is subjective. Truth is truth. But all real
- 14:32Speaker 2: journalism does is say this happened, this happened. This person
- 14:36Speaker 2: said this, that person said that. And we are left
- 14:38Speaker 2: to judge things for ourselves.
- 14:41Speaker 3: That's what journalism is supposed to do. But I want
- 14:46Speaker 3: to give you what journalism has become in October of 2026.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Have I opened the door to something unwittingly? Perfect timing
- 14:53Speaker 2: before I start with this. We don't rehearse. It's obvious
- 14:56Speaker 2: we don't rehearse.
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- 16:27Speaker 3: made my whole weekend when I saw that.
- 16:29Speaker 2: It's funny because I'm sitting here going through emails, and
- 16:31Speaker 2: I saw an email that you had sent to somebody
- 16:33Speaker 2: in management saying, hey, we're trying to find this woman.
- 16:35Speaker 2: I said, what are we talking about?
- 16:36Speaker 4: What?
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- 16:49Speaker 2: MM Extra. We want to do France on fire. I
- 16:52Speaker 2: learned from you that they closed the Louvre. The Louvre
- 16:55Speaker 2: Museum is closed because of rioting?
- 16:58Speaker 3: Did you hear their announcement and how they said it?
- 17:02Speaker 3: Listen to the way the Louvre described it. But you're
- 17:05Speaker 3: taking me off my game here because we had a
- 17:07Speaker 3: perfect segue. And I teased this perfectly and you set
- 17:10Speaker 3: it up perfectly. We know what journalism is supposed to do.
- 17:14Speaker 3: It's supposed to present both sides of an issue. Yes.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Both sides of an argument. Yes. Let the viewer decide.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Let the reader make up their mind.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Let's go there.
- 17:22Speaker 3: All the news that's fit to print. Yeah. All the standard, right?
- 17:26Speaker 3: 60 Minutes was once a towering pinnacle of journalism.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Yep.
- 17:32Speaker 3: 60 Minutes went after the bad guys. 60 Minutes exposed corruption.
- 17:36Speaker 3: 60 minutes with the big tobacco settlement and all the
- 17:39Speaker 3: huge monumental.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Mike Wallace, Morley Safer, Ed Bradley.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Don Hewitt. Don Hewitt from, all right, the legends. Leslie Stahl,
- 17:48Speaker 3: who's about, she's in her 80s. Yep. So she's been
- 17:51Speaker 3: at it a long time. Uh-huh. I want you to
- 17:54Speaker 3: hear the way she introduced just last night a story
- 17:58Speaker 3: they did about how the Justice Department is trying to
- 18:01Speaker 3: hold states accountable for for election misconduct, how the Justice
- 18:05Speaker 3: Department is investigating election fraud, how the Justice Department at
- 18:10Speaker 3: Trump's direction wants elections to be safe and secure and reliable, right?
- 18:17Speaker 3: Here's Leslie Stahl, journalist from 60 Minutes, last night.
- 18:23Speaker 4: The midterms are just two weeks away, and President Trump
- 18:26Speaker 4: is using his power to intimidate the people who run
- 18:30Speaker 4: our elections... putting the voting system under remarkable stress. The
- 18:35Speaker 4: latest move came on Friday when the Justice Department threatened
- 18:39Speaker 4: to prosecute California election officials if they knowingly count mail-in
- 18:45Speaker 4: ballots from 20,000 people the Trump administration says are likely non-citizens.
- 18:52Speaker 4: It's the latest in a sequence of actions that has
- 18:55Speaker 4: bred an erosion of faith in the integrity of our elections.
- 19:00Speaker 4: Our story focuses on how state and local election officials
- 19:04Speaker 4: are being pressured in a way that is stoking that distrust.
- 19:09Speaker 4: We start with what happened in Georgia this past January.
- 19:13Speaker 3: That's Leslie Stahl. Now, Mark, isn't that unbelievable?
- 19:20Speaker 2: I have not seen that. The good news is later
- 19:23Speaker 2: in that segment, she talks to one of my absolute
- 19:25Speaker 2: heroes in government, and that's a short list, the wonderful
- 19:28Speaker 2: Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon, who disabuses her of the
- 19:32Speaker 2: notion and makes the very good point. The distrust is
- 19:35Speaker 2: already there. We're not sowing distrust. The distrust exists because
- 19:39Speaker 2: we've had crazy, weird, unsupportable things happen in a number
- 19:42Speaker 2: of elections at a number of levels. So all we're
- 19:45Speaker 2: trying to do is get to the bottom of it.
- 19:46Speaker 2: And some people note well, notice well, the people who
- 19:50Speaker 2: complain and fuss and bitch and moan that people are
- 19:54Speaker 2: trying to do something to bring about cleaner elections. But
- 19:58Speaker 2: then you found your scoundrels.
- 19:59Speaker 3: And Harmeet Dhillon did a beautiful job in her pushback
- 20:03Speaker 3: of Leslie Stahl saying, Leslie, the distrust is already there.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Don't blame us for that. The distrust came from drive-through
- 20:12Speaker 3: mail-in ballots in Houston at 3 in the morning and
- 20:16Speaker 3: mysterious water outages and all this crap that happened in
- 20:21Speaker 3: the 2020 election. It was 2020, Mark. And that wasn't–
- 20:24Speaker 3: it didn't have anything to do with Trump. It had
- 20:26Speaker 3: everything to do with the way they wanted to run
- 20:27Speaker 3: their elections.
- 20:28Speaker 4: Yep.
- 20:29Speaker 2: And the way they changed everything and the way they–
- 20:32Speaker 2: so anyway, it's pretty pathetic.
- 20:34Speaker 3: All right. I want to read to you the official
- 20:36Speaker 3: announcement from the Louvre.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Exactly. There's rioting all over France. And it's all because
- 20:41Speaker 2: of Islamists and Marxists and communists.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Burnings built down, red and green Palestinian flags being put,
- 20:49Speaker 3: Jewish shops being targeted.
- 20:51Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Hermes, Louis Vuitton, the stores are being emptied out, looted, horrific,
- 20:57Speaker 3: violent looting. And it's chaos, right? And they're announcing that
- 21:03Speaker 3: they're closing the Louvre. It's so bad they have to
- 21:06Speaker 3: close the Louvre. You know what they're saying it's due to?
- 21:08Speaker 3: From the X account of the Louvre. Dear visitors, due
- 21:17Speaker 3: to a student social movement. The museum is closed for
- 21:22Speaker 3: the time being. We apologize for the inconvenience caused.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Due to— Student social movement.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Due to a student social movement.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 21:34Speaker 3: It's a scuffle, like CBS News originally called it. Mark,
- 21:38Speaker 3: they can't own it. They can't say what it is.
- 21:40Speaker 3: What are you going to say? Third world migrants are
- 21:43Speaker 3: running rampant in the streets of France?
- 21:44Speaker 4: Yep.
- 21:45Speaker 3: But by the.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Way– And they're going to do it in America if
- 21:49Speaker 2: we let them. That's what this election needs to be about.
- 21:51Speaker 2: You and I were both on this promptly this morning
- 21:54Speaker 2: because when you have all these folks rolling into your
- 21:57Speaker 2: country and their views are antithetical to the kind of
- 22:00Speaker 2: Western values that have defined your country, this is what
- 22:03Speaker 2: you get.
- 22:04Speaker 3: Well, Brandon Gill, your Texas congressman, I love that guy.
- 22:08Speaker 3: We've got to get him back on because he has
- 22:10Speaker 3: an ability to cut right to the chase. One paragraph
- 22:14Speaker 3: on X, he wrote, what's happening in France is the
- 22:16Speaker 3: progressive political agenda at its natural conclusion. When you build
- 22:21Speaker 3: a massive welfare state while increasing your population through third
- 22:25Speaker 3: world migration, it isn't long before basic social order collapses.
- 22:30Speaker 3: But that's what the Democrats want to do here, right?
- 22:34Speaker 2: Well, of course it is. And it's funny because also
- 22:37Speaker 2: this morning on the radio, I said, you know, you
- 22:39Speaker 2: and I are not saying that this is going to
- 22:41Speaker 2: happen in America. And you went, blah, blah, blah. No,
- 22:43Speaker 2: but it will. But it absolutely could if we are
- 22:47Speaker 2: asleep at the switch.
- 22:48Speaker 3: If we are asleep, if we don't show up and
- 22:50Speaker 3: we lose, this could happen. And, you know, Laura Ingraham
- 22:53Speaker 3: said that over the weekend. She, too, went to X
- 22:56Speaker 3: and she said, if you don't think that's what they want,
- 22:59Speaker 3: if you don't think that could happen here, you're not
- 23:02Speaker 3: paying attention. Exactly right. But, Mark, it did happen here.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Ask anybody in Minneapolis what happened after George Floyd died.
- 23:11Speaker 3: And look what happened. It didn't just happen in Minneapolis.
- 23:13Speaker 3: It happened all over the country. And there were peaceful protests,
- 23:18Speaker 3: but there were also violent riots.
- 23:20Speaker 2: There surely, surely were. I'm so sick of calling them protests. Well,
- 23:24Speaker 2: I mean, they are. But, I mean, eventually, the riots.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Look at the pictures. They're on the B-roll. Those are flames.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Those are flames. I don't want to inflame you. I
- 23:33Speaker 2: want to take a couple minutes.
- 23:34Speaker 3: By the way, real quick, real quick. Matt from Texas,
- 23:36Speaker 3: Matt Texas, one of our commenters on the YouTube.
- 23:39Speaker 2: You know me.
- 23:39Speaker 3: I love watching our comments. I love watching our peeps.
- 23:43Speaker 3: And Matt from Texas said, um, over the Louvre statement.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Hmm.
- 23:48Speaker 3: They spelled Islamists incorrectly. Thank you, Matt, Texas.
- 23:55Speaker 2: And don't forget on YouTube, click it, like it, subscribe
- 23:58Speaker 2: to it. Come join us. Make it a part.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Please join us. Subscribe there. Just click on the subscribe.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Make sure you like what you're doing. Just go out
- 24:05Speaker 3: and just, just, just click away, like away, subscribe, follow
- 24:09Speaker 3: whatever you need to do to spread the word of
- 24:11Speaker 3: Eminem extra. Cause we're having a ball and we hope
- 24:13Speaker 3: you are too.
- 24:15Speaker 2: I hope it's true in the next couple of minutes
- 24:17Speaker 2: because here's the thing. Why am I obsessed with the dismissiveness,
- 24:25Speaker 2: that's the word, that you showed me in one way?
- 24:30Speaker 2: That sounds bad. We view this so differently, and I
- 24:34Speaker 2: am morbidly fascinated by it. So here we go. And
- 24:39Speaker 2: I know what it is, and I know why. Very good.
- 24:42Speaker 2: God bless you. Katie Zachariah, nice woman, smart woman. I
- 24:46Speaker 2: wish her well. She will do great things, maybe for
- 24:48Speaker 2: this administration. Press secretary was never going to be one
- 24:52Speaker 2: of them. It was obvious from the get-go. I noticed it.
- 24:56Speaker 2: I cringed a little. I knew like I knew my
- 25:00Speaker 2: own name that it was never going to get any better.
- 25:02Speaker 2: And I said so because the messaging in this administration
- 25:05Speaker 2: is that important to me. And I know that it
- 25:07Speaker 2: is to you. I know it is. So why did
- 25:10Speaker 2: you beat me down so ferociously and yet affectionately that
- 25:15Speaker 2: it was somehow wrong for me to point out this
- 25:17Speaker 2: admittedly bad hire by this administration? Like I had to
- 25:22Speaker 2: endure this for the cause of intra-party harmony and I
- 25:27Speaker 2: was playing into the hands of the left by pointing
- 25:29Speaker 2: out that she was terrible? I am morbidly fascinated. Thank
- 25:33Speaker 2: God she's gone. Whether it's Scott Jennings or somebody else,
- 25:36Speaker 2: it's going to be somebody who can actually do this
- 25:38Speaker 2: and President Trump will be better served by it.
- 25:41Speaker 3: So why? Why the hostility? There's one word and I'm
- 25:45Speaker 3: still every bit as convinced that I'm right and you're
- 25:48Speaker 3: wrong on this. I don't know why. And this is
- 25:50Speaker 3: the argument that I know you heard. I know because
- 25:53Speaker 3: I'm not the only one who said this. Why do
- 25:55Speaker 3: Republicans want to get into the circular firing squad? especially
- 25:59Speaker 3: 15 days before a crucial election. Why? Why? No, that
- 26:03Speaker 3: is the point. That's the entire point. Why do Republicans
- 26:07Speaker 3: do this? Why? Democrats never go down this path. You
- 26:11Speaker 3: would never hear a prominent, respected, beloved talk show host say,
- 26:17Speaker 3: If there ever was such a thing on the left,
- 26:19Speaker 3: a Democrat, you would never hear a Democrat talk show
- 26:22Speaker 3: host pile on Katie Zachariah the way Mark Davis has done.
- 26:27Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about it. I don't
- 26:29Speaker 3: know if you've got to be a you want to
- 26:30Speaker 3: be a contrarian. I don't know if you want to
- 26:32Speaker 3: message it. How about the message of unity?
- 26:36Speaker 2: I got a message.
- 26:37Speaker 3: Unity.
- 26:37Speaker 2: You want a message? Unified. Unified. Because we dare not
- 26:42Speaker 2: raise a peep of anything about it.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Not now. Not now.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Oh, two weeks away? You want to raise peeps?
- 26:48Speaker 3: How about you raise peeps in three weeks?
- 26:50Speaker 2: Why don't you wait until after the damn election? Give
- 26:52Speaker 2: her a couple of weeks of cringe press conferences and
- 26:55Speaker 2: talk about it on November 4th.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Forget it! Who cares? Cringe! So you know what you've
- 27:00Speaker 3: done is you've delivered a lot of ammunition to the
- 27:03Speaker 3: left and the Democrats.
- 27:04Speaker 2: She's gone!
- 27:05Speaker 3: It's awesome.
- 27:06Speaker 2: It worked. Well, it worked. Oh, it kind of worked.
- 27:09Speaker 2: You think Mark Davis got her gone? We're going to have– no,
- 27:12Speaker 2: Donald Trump did because Donald Trump agrees with Mark Davis.
- 27:15Speaker 2: She sucked at this. But so what? And you know
- 27:17Speaker 2: it and he knew it. It was a bad hire
- 27:20Speaker 2: and it is gone by the wayside. Hey, why don't
- 27:24Speaker 2: you go after.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Rick Grinnell now? While you're at it, while you're on
- 27:26Speaker 3: a roll, why don't you go after Rick Grinnell? Oh,
- 27:28Speaker 3: is he? Are you reading about what's going on with
- 27:30Speaker 3: Rick Grinnell? He's under investigation. Oh, he might be in
- 27:34Speaker 3: a lot of hot water. Why don't you go talk
- 27:37Speaker 3: about him? Why don't you go after him right now? Oh,
- 27:40Speaker 3: why not? I want good messaging, Mark. We have to
- 27:42Speaker 3: have good messaging. Oh, can't I raise a peep? No, it's–
- 27:46Speaker 3: He's not the messaging guy. How about stick a sock
- 27:49Speaker 3: in it and get through the damn election and let's start–
- 27:52Speaker 3: She's gone.
- 27:53Speaker 2: And it's a good thing. Let's have– We now have
- 27:56Speaker 2: an election season where we're not going to have cringe
- 27:58Speaker 2: press conferences.
- 27:59Speaker 3: Oh, good. Oh, thank God. I don't want an– I
- 28:04Speaker 3: don't want you to be uncomfortable with a press conference
- 28:06Speaker 3: that nobody watches anyway. Nobody gives a crap about the
- 28:09Speaker 3: daytime White House press briefing at.
- 28:11Speaker 2: 3 o'clock in the– Then why are you bursting a
- 28:13Speaker 2: vein over there?
- 28:14Speaker 3: Because I can't believe you're back at this again. I
- 28:16Speaker 3: can't believe you do this.
- 28:19Speaker 2: No, you're not. You're dead wrong.
- 28:21Speaker 3: You're dead wrong.
- 28:21Speaker 2: I've never been more convinced you're wrong. How long should
- 28:23Speaker 2: we have endured? After the election.
- 28:26Speaker 3: Can you wait two weeks?
- 28:27Speaker 2: I'll give you that.
- 28:28Speaker 3: That's all.
- 28:30Speaker 2: You want to be a contrarian. You want to be objective.
- 28:35Speaker 3: You want to show that your friends in the Dallas
- 28:37Speaker 3: Republican Club that you can be objective.
- 28:40Speaker 2: No, but it's true. It just, I get it.
- 28:42Speaker 3: I understand she wasn't the greatest. I just don't. It
- 28:46Speaker 3: makes me a little crazy. And I admit this. And
- 28:49Speaker 3: that's why you pushed my button. And I'll tell you what, buddy.
- 28:51Speaker 3: I got heart disease now. So you better be careful.
- 28:55Speaker 3: If you seize up, I'm going to feel terrible. If
- 28:58Speaker 3: I slump over because you're pushing my buttons, it's on you.
- 29:02Speaker 3: You better speak at my funeral. Put that on the headstone.
- 29:05Speaker 3: I want you to put, Mark Davis did this. That'll
- 29:07Speaker 3: be on my tombstone, Mark.
- 29:09Speaker 2: I think I can objectively tie it, roll on it
- 29:11Speaker 2: with a sentence that we will both embrace. We are
- 29:14Speaker 2: both driven by, we're all passionate about a million things.
- 29:19Speaker 2: The passion that was driving me is my pretty urgent
- 29:22Speaker 2: need to have that job done pretty perfectly every day.
- 29:25Speaker 2: And I'm not coming away from that, not one millimeter.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Your very praiseworthy, very, very noble thing is to not
- 29:34Speaker 2: have any contrarianism right before the midterms. I totally get it.
- 29:38Speaker 2: I totally understand. But here's the bottom.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Line.
- 29:40Speaker 3: I know you're right. I do know you're right. I
- 29:43Speaker 3: know your heart's in the right place. I know the
- 29:46Speaker 3: merits of your argument are correct. I just don't want
- 29:49Speaker 3: anything to get in the way of somebody listening to
- 29:52Speaker 3: you in, I don't care, Prescott, Arizona. And saying, yeah, well,
- 29:58Speaker 3: you know what? Look how bad they are. They can't
- 30:00Speaker 3: even get a press secretary job right.
- 30:03Speaker 2: You know what the weird thing is, though? The two
- 30:04Speaker 2: weeks without her now? are going to be better, better
- 30:09Speaker 2: for the cause, better for Trump, better for the election
- 30:12Speaker 2: than two weeks with her would have been.
- 30:14Speaker 3: Maybe. And maybe it's better for them to say they
- 30:17Speaker 3: fixed a problem. And maybe somebody would say, well, they
- 30:19Speaker 3: addressed something. And I'm only partially kidding about Rick Grinnell.
- 30:23Speaker 3: It's an uncomfortable story.
- 30:25Speaker 2: It's like a fire hose. We love Rick Grinnell.
- 30:29Speaker 3: I do love Rick Grinnell. I think he's fantastic. And
- 30:32Speaker 3: according to Axios, they're involved in a big story about–
- 30:36Speaker 3: How he allegedly, it was like a pay for play thing.
- 30:41Speaker 3: According to Axios, there's, let me look it up here
- 30:42Speaker 3: real quick because it's kind of breaking.
- 30:44Speaker 2: This is exclusive. He's a top Trump advisor. He was
- 30:47Speaker 2: on the board of the Kennedy Center. He's the special
- 30:49Speaker 2: presidential envoy for special missions.
- 30:52Speaker 4: Correct.
- 30:53Speaker 2: He was the ambassador to Germany. He's just been a
- 30:55Speaker 2: big time diplomat type official in Trump world for a
- 30:57Speaker 2: long time.
- 30:58Speaker 3: And he allegedly outlined what Axios calls a stunning pay
- 31:04Speaker 3: for influence offer to a Turkish billionaire last year that
- 31:08Speaker 3: included access to President Trump. This is according to a
- 31:11Speaker 3: text message reviewed by Axios that the White House counsel
- 31:15Speaker 3: is investigating. Now, I'm feeling guilty about even telling you
- 31:18Speaker 3: about it because I use it as an example. I
- 31:20Speaker 3: ain't mentioning one word of this from now till November
- 31:23Speaker 3: the 3rd. Well, not going to mention one word of it. No,
- 31:25Speaker 3: I'm not.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I'm not.
- 31:27Speaker 2: I wouldn't either. And I think that because, you know,
- 31:30Speaker 2: you pick you and choose your battles. And this is
- 31:32Speaker 2: completely unconfirmed. This will play out. And if it winds
- 31:35Speaker 2: up being a bad story, we'll have to talk about it.
- 31:38Speaker 2: And we will.
- 31:38Speaker 3: That's right. We'll deal with it. But I ain't dealing
- 31:41Speaker 3: with it now. I'm dealing with communists rooting on. I'm
- 31:47Speaker 3: dealing with Ro Khanna saying, listen to the young people
- 31:50Speaker 3: of France. I mean, I'm listening to Alyssa Slotkin saying, hey,
- 31:55Speaker 3: any young kid wants to graduate from college and work
- 31:57Speaker 3: for the Trump administration, we're going to come after you.
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- 33:10Speaker 3: On that happy note, and incidentally, we are unified. And
- 33:13Speaker 3: you and I, big picture, we're looking at what's going
- 33:15Speaker 3: to happen in 15 days. I don't know what's going
- 33:18Speaker 3: to happen. I'm so sick. I'm weary from the polls.
- 33:21Speaker 3: I'm tired of seeing all the prognostications. What I know
- 33:25Speaker 3: is if we show up, we win. And I want
- 33:27Speaker 3: us to be unified. And I think we can all
- 33:29Speaker 3: be unified there. Because frankly, at this point, we can
- 33:33Speaker 3: blame the Save America Act. We can blame John Thune.
- 33:37Speaker 3: We can blame the corrupt media. We only have ourselves
- 33:40Speaker 3: to blame if we don't show up.
- 33:42Speaker 2: You have spoken. Oh, you're so right. And President Trump had,
- 33:45Speaker 2: I guess, a couple of days ago, he seemed to
- 33:48Speaker 2: be saying for Texas Republicans and some other Republicans who
- 33:52Speaker 2: are like, there's no excuse for not voting. You are
- 33:57Speaker 2: in league with Democrats if you stay out of this,
- 33:59Speaker 2: if you use your little toddler tantrums. And that is
- 34:03Speaker 2: and is portrayed as Trump looking to blame others if
- 34:08Speaker 2: it goes badly.
- 34:09Speaker 3: No, he's not.
- 34:10Speaker 2: He is identifying ahead of time what the problem will
- 34:12Speaker 2: have been if the unspeakable happens partially. And if it's close,
- 34:17Speaker 2: it will have been because some Republicans could not pull
- 34:21Speaker 2: their heads out and do what they must know they
- 34:24Speaker 2: have to do. But some sadly just don't. And just
- 34:28Speaker 2: last thing on this. Do you know if the Republican victories?
- 34:32Speaker 2: The victories for Trump will be so great. And I
- 34:34Speaker 2: don't want to play the whole schadenfreude or mockery game
- 34:37Speaker 2: or anything like that necessarily. But look at the people
- 34:40Speaker 2: from Karl Rove to Cornyn to these pollsters. That's why
- 34:45Speaker 2: I'm doing sort of the operation prove them wrong bit.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Yep.
- 34:48Speaker 2: With 15 days to go, we're going to the glory
- 34:51Speaker 2: that will descend from the skies if we are able
- 34:55Speaker 2: to teach every single one of these people a lesson.
- 34:57Speaker 2: And by the way, I'll be ready to make nice
- 34:59Speaker 2: and make friends and move on with them. But that
- 35:02Speaker 2: is part of the message that must be sent 15
- 35:04Speaker 2: days from now. Sorry to get wordy.
- 35:06Speaker 3: No, a nice way to call it a day. I
- 35:08Speaker 3: love you. Let's do it again tomorrow. Have a fantastic Monday.
- 35:12Speaker 3: Thanks for being a part of M & M Extra.
- 35:15Speaker 2: Love you right back.
- 35:16Speaker 3: See ya.