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- 0:05Speaker 1: A young Texas mom realizes she's late for work, grabs
- 0:09Speaker 1: her bag and races out the door, and then disappears.
- 0:14Speaker 1: A Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
- 0:17Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious X
- 0:20Speaker 1: one eleven. What happened to Chrissie? She takes off, leaving
- 0:27Speaker 1: behind her mom who helps take care of her child,
- 0:30Speaker 1: headed to her job as a paralegal, all dressed for work,
- 0:35Speaker 1: and then seemingly vanishes into thin air. You can even
- 0:40Speaker 1: see the ring doorbell cam. You see Chrissy rushing out
- 0:45Speaker 1: with her back slung over one shoulder, all of her
- 0:48Speaker 1: work with her. But then what happens The young paralegal
- 0:54Speaker 1: and mother of two not even checking on her children.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Then her mom realizes Chrissy didn't take her phone and
- 1:03Speaker 1: she left behind her medication. For three weeks, family and
- 1:08Speaker 1: friends desperately search for answers. How did this whole thing start?
- 1:14Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this unknown are
- 1:16Speaker 1: just the scariest part. So many scenarios are playing out
- 1:20Speaker 1: in the mind of Lauren Leat. And she's not just
- 1:22Speaker 1: a friend, she's a sister. Her friend Chrissie Powell, whom
- 1:25Speaker 1: she's known all her life is missing. Leale is speaking
- 1:28Speaker 1: on behalf of the family. It's just been really hard
- 1:31Speaker 1: to kind of wrap her minds around where she might be,
- 1:34Speaker 1: what could have happened. Lea says, this is not in
- 1:37Speaker 1: her friend's character to just vanish, calling this disappearance bizarre.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Police and the family, have you even checked the jail
- 1:45Speaker 1: and hospitals? We just want you home. You were just
- 1:48Speaker 1: hearing our friends at Kae and S five and the
- 1:52Speaker 1: very best friends speaking out, and there's more. Take a
- 1:56Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Living loving to listen. I
- 2:01Speaker 1: actually have the next door app and I reached out
- 2:04Speaker 1: to her mother personally because she did post a thread
- 2:09Speaker 1: on there about her daughter, Chrissie Powell, and this is
- 2:15Speaker 1: from her mother. She let me know. Her name is
- 2:19Speaker 1: Christina Powell. She left my house in Apple Creek ten
- 2:23Speaker 1: thirty ish Tuesday July fifth, heading to work driving a
- 2:28Speaker 1: black Nissan Rogue. Her office is around Eye ten and
- 2:33Speaker 1: Vance Jackson. She never showed up to work. Can you
- 2:37Speaker 1: imagine so desperate you're reaching out on Facebook, Insta, Twitter,
- 2:44Speaker 1: trying to get the word out about your missing girl.
- 2:49Speaker 1: You were hearing from the best friend, but the mother
- 2:52Speaker 1: desperate calls police. It takes them three days before they
- 2:58Speaker 1: report Chrissy missing. Why first of all, let's get to
- 3:02Speaker 1: the facts with me and All Star panel to make
- 3:04Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now. I'm going to
- 3:06Speaker 1: straight out first to special guests. Joining me, Stephanie pagonus
- 3:10Speaker 1: crime reporter with Fox News Digital. Stephanie, thank you for
- 3:13Speaker 1: being with us, and start at the beginning. Thank you, Nancy. Yes, So,
- 3:18Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, Chrissie Lee Powell lived with her mother.
- 3:21Speaker 1: She woke up that morning she was running late. She
- 3:23Speaker 1: told her mother. She runs out the door at the time,
- 3:27Speaker 1: as you can see in doorbell footage. Her mother says
- 3:31Speaker 1: she said I love you and be careful before she left.
- 3:34Speaker 1: But her daughter left behind some of her belongings, namely,
- 3:37Speaker 1: according to family and reports, her cell phone, which she
- 3:40Speaker 1: left on her bathroom encounter. She also left behind medication,
- 3:43Speaker 1: and family later determined that they believed she left behind
- 3:47Speaker 1: her Apple Watch as well. They believe that because when
- 3:50Speaker 1: they went to go track down the watch later on
- 3:52Speaker 1: after her daughter had not come home, they determined it
- 3:55Speaker 1: was actually in the vicinity of the home. Hey, hellball,
- 3:58Speaker 1: just a second. Stephanie pegu joining me from Fox News
- 4:01Speaker 1: Digital special guest today, I want to go quickly to
- 4:04Speaker 1: doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists joining us out of the
- 4:07Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her at angela Arnold MD
- 4:10Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Angie quick question, have you ever been
- 4:15Speaker 1: on vacation? Okay? And you come back and just having us.
- 4:20Speaker 1: We took the twins on vacation. We came back our
- 4:22Speaker 1: race in the kitchen to make the twins of breakfast
- 4:24Speaker 1: and from my mom and I turned to my husband,
- 4:26Speaker 1: did you feed the countin the dog? At He goes, Oh,
- 4:29Speaker 1: my goodness, I'm out of my routine. The point is
- 4:33Speaker 1: she had just come off the July fourth break she had,
- 4:38Speaker 1: you know, maybe Thursday night, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. This
- 4:42Speaker 1: is Tuesday morning, July sixth. She's like, oh, dear Lord
- 4:45Speaker 1: in Heaven, I'm late for work, very responsible, never late,
- 4:50Speaker 1: never misses work. That's important regarding behavioral evidence. She even
- 4:54Speaker 1: calls the job to say I'm on the way here,
- 4:58Speaker 1: I come, I'm late, I'm sorry, jumps into her Nissan rogue.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I believe it was a twenty twenty Stephanie, but got
- 5:05Speaker 1: to correct me on these facts. And I've got any
- 5:06Speaker 1: of them wrong and takes off and mom sees her
- 5:10Speaker 1: leave to go to work. Fifteen minute drive seven miles right.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I think she forgot her iPhone and her didn't put
- 5:18Speaker 1: on her Apple Watch because she was in a rush
- 5:21Speaker 1: and she was out of her routine a little bit
- 5:23Speaker 1: because of the break. What do you think? I agree
- 5:25Speaker 1: with you, but I'll tell you something, Nancy. One of
- 5:27Speaker 1: the first things that came to my mind was that
- 5:31Speaker 1: it also sounds like she could have been distracted something.
- 5:36Speaker 1: She could have been distracted. She could have had something
- 5:38Speaker 1: on her mind that none of us know about. Someone
- 5:42Speaker 1: could have contacted her. I don't know, but it sounds
- 5:45Speaker 1: to me like she also could have been distracted. Okay, well,
- 5:49Speaker 1: number one, is there anybody on this panel that's not distracted?
- 5:54Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying. Something out of the ordinary.
- 5:58Speaker 1: But that leads me to another issue. Jason Campo, Chief
- 6:01Speaker 1: Prosecutor Cameron County, Texas, five years in the DA's office
- 6:05Speaker 1: regarding family violence. I mean, I could go on renowned
- 6:08Speaker 1: lawyer in that jurisdiction, Jason, A lot of I'm really upset. Now.
- 6:14Speaker 1: This is in San Antonio and it's in a really
- 6:18Speaker 1: low crime and neighborhood of San Antonio. I believe it's
- 6:23Speaker 1: Apple Circle or Apple Orchard, Apple Apple what or Apple
- 6:29Speaker 1: Creek Apple Creek. Thank you for the wrong information, Jackie,
- 6:33Speaker 1: yet again Apple Creek. And the reason I'm saying that
- 6:36Speaker 1: is because, let me just throughout New York City, Okay,
- 6:40Speaker 1: where I've lived for so long. There's Manhattan, and there
- 6:45Speaker 1: are there's the Upper east Side, there's an Upper West
- 6:48Speaker 1: Side where all the rich people live. Then there are
- 6:50Speaker 1: other areas that are high crime. This area apple Creek
- 6:56Speaker 1: on a cold decac I mean, this might as well
- 6:59Speaker 1: be Beaver. Leave it to Beaver. I'm sure you remember
- 7:02Speaker 1: that there's no crime there. It's not like somebody carjacked
- 7:06Speaker 1: her as she's driving out of the driveway. Help me
- 7:10Speaker 1: out here, throw me a bone, Jason Campo, there is
- 7:13Speaker 1: anything that could have happened to her that morning. She
- 7:16Speaker 1: only worked fifteen twenty minutes away from there. I'm familiar
- 7:19Speaker 1: with that area being here in Texas anyhow, going to
- 7:23Speaker 1: San Antonio a regular basis. But there's nothing in that
- 7:27Speaker 1: neighborhood that would make you think anything suspicious would happen
- 7:31Speaker 1: right there in front of her house. As far as
- 7:33Speaker 1: leaving her watch and her phone behind. I think we've
- 7:36Speaker 1: all been in that situation where we're running late for
- 7:38Speaker 1: work and we're just trying to grab everything that we can,
- 7:41Speaker 1: and we leave things behind. You know what I thought,
- 7:43Speaker 1: on Jason Campo one time in ten years, I was
- 7:48Speaker 1: like to a calendar call. I was humiliated and mortified.
- 7:53Speaker 1: My car started smoking out from under the hood at
- 7:55Speaker 1: a red light. I'm like, that's not good, and I
- 7:57Speaker 1: managed together really slowly. I parked the car on the
- 8:02Speaker 1: street and raced him without any of my files. Jason Campo,
- 8:05Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. This was an arrayment
- 8:08Speaker 1: calendar car with one hundred and fifty one hundred and
- 8:10Speaker 1: seventy defendants all felony on it waiting for me. I
- 8:14Speaker 1: got in there. The court room was totally silent. Everybody
- 8:18Speaker 1: was in place. The judge was sitting there, God bless him.
- 8:22Speaker 1: He never said a word and I started court. I'll
- 8:27Speaker 1: never forget it. So that is just in my mind,
- 8:30Speaker 1: because this woman does not run late. She's a paralegal.
- 8:35Speaker 1: You cannot be late if the lawyer has a court
- 8:37Speaker 1: date or something similar, Jason. Normally, we try our best.
- 8:43Speaker 1: My paralegal was hardly ever late, but every once in
- 8:46Speaker 1: a while something might come up. You might oversleep, missing alarmed,
- 8:50Speaker 1: especially coming off the long weekend. Your schedule is off
- 8:53Speaker 1: and your mind is just not back in the place
- 8:55Speaker 1: where it needs to be to get back to work
- 8:58Speaker 1: on time. And another thing, Paul's joining me form a
- 9:00Speaker 1: police commander in Albuquerque domestic homicide talking and author stop
- 9:07Speaker 1: him from killing them on Amazon Paul another complication. And
- 9:12Speaker 1: I don't want to refer to the children as a complication,
- 9:15Speaker 1: because it got the joy of her life. But when
- 9:19Speaker 1: you have children, a three year old and a twelve
- 9:21Speaker 1: year old, you've got a lot to do before you
- 9:23Speaker 1: can get out the door. If one of them says,
- 9:25Speaker 1: mom must die my heart, you've got to deal with
- 9:27Speaker 1: that before you can leave it. Now, when if she
- 9:29Speaker 1: left her iPhone, it makes a lot of sense that
- 9:31Speaker 1: she would be in a rush. And you know, I
- 9:34Speaker 1: was saving kids myself. You know, there's a lot of
- 9:37Speaker 1: moving parts. It's almost like a small business. But I
- 9:39Speaker 1: will say that when she left that morning, she did
- 9:42Speaker 1: have her purse on her shoulders. Sure it is as
- 9:46Speaker 1: she answered, and that just leads me to believe there
- 9:51Speaker 1: could be a little more to the leaving the iPhone
- 9:54Speaker 1: possibly in the eye watch behind. Seeing trackable means that
- 9:59Speaker 1: there would been and those are left behind. That's slightly concerning.
- 10:03Speaker 1: I'm also interested in her car, so twenty Nisan Road
- 10:07Speaker 1: black in color, and we researched through as soon as
- 10:10Speaker 1: I found out that Chrissie's missing. You have to buy
- 10:14Speaker 1: the NAV system, which is you know, chowing practically every car.
- 10:19Speaker 1: You know, how you buy a package? Do you want
- 10:22Speaker 1: serious XM? Do you want this? Do you want that?
- 10:24Speaker 1: Do you want carpet or leather as part of the package.
- 10:28Speaker 1: And I don't know if Stephanie pigunas she had that
- 10:31Speaker 1: NAV system. We don't have a cell phone, we don't
- 10:34Speaker 1: have an Apple Watch to track her. I was thinking,
- 10:38Speaker 1: does her Niecean have a NAV system? Time Stories with
- 10:55Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Chrissy Christina Powell goes missing from her own home.
- 11:04Speaker 1: According to a ring doorbell cam. She's seen rushing off
- 11:07Speaker 1: dressed for work or bags lung over her shoulder. Mom
- 11:11Speaker 1: gets worried when she realizes Chrissy didn't take her cell
- 11:15Speaker 1: phone or her meds, but then the evening passes and
- 11:18Speaker 1: Chrissy doesn't call back to check on the children or
- 11:21Speaker 1: show up for dinner. What do we know about the
- 11:24Speaker 1: morning she raced out of the home July six, It's
- 11:28Speaker 1: ten thirty four a m. We know that because of
- 11:31Speaker 1: the ring camera she leaves. I've watched it fifty times.
- 11:35Speaker 1: She's walking out very like you know, walking down the
- 11:38Speaker 1: halls to the courthouse. She's on her way, not dawdling.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Jumps in the car and Mom sees her leaf. Then
- 11:44Speaker 1: what happens. So that's correct. So this was actually July fifth,
- 11:48Speaker 1: two day July, thank you. Around ten thirty five in
- 11:51Speaker 1: the morning, she walks out the door like you said,
- 11:54Speaker 1: Mom sees her driving away. Mom said it seemed as
- 11:58Speaker 1: though she was going to work. She said her mother
- 12:01Speaker 1: believed that she was going to work. And not only that,
- 12:03Speaker 1: but her mother said she believed her daughter believed she
- 12:06Speaker 1: was going to work. But then around noon that day,
- 12:10Speaker 1: or I should say more around lunchtime, one of her
- 12:12Speaker 1: colleagues shows up at Christie's home. Her twelve year old
- 12:16Speaker 1: son answers the door and they said, at her mom home,
- 12:18Speaker 1: we haven't seen her. Apparently the coworker wants to check
- 12:21Speaker 1: in to see if her mother might have or to
- 12:24Speaker 1: see if Christie might have fallen back to sleep. Twelve
- 12:27Speaker 1: year old though, went to check to make sure, and
- 12:29Speaker 1: of course Christie was not home. The next day, Christie's
- 12:32Speaker 1: mother called the police. Called on just a set, just
- 12:35Speaker 1: a set. He just says something that's very, very critical
- 12:38Speaker 1: in my mind, Doctor Angie. The office, the law firm
- 12:43Speaker 1: where she worked, realizes is so unusual for her not
- 12:47Speaker 1: to be there. They despatch a female colleague that goes
- 12:52Speaker 1: to Chrissie's home. Is your mom here? It's so unusual.
- 12:58Speaker 1: I mean, when have you say that happened? Not a
- 13:01Speaker 1: lot that the office sends somebody to the home. And
- 13:05Speaker 1: I got to tell you, the relationship between a lawyer
- 13:08Speaker 1: and the paralegal is very close. They work hand in glove.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I compare it to my investigator, Earnest. We did everything together,
- 13:17Speaker 1: we ate, lunched together, we suffered together, we did everything together.
- 13:23Speaker 1: We've been at the Georgia Supreme Court and strip clubs
- 13:26Speaker 1: together trying to find witnesses and make our cases. So
- 13:31Speaker 1: when your paralegal doesn't show up, that's a big red flag.
- 13:36Speaker 1: And it was so unusual. She's so reliable. They actually
- 13:39Speaker 1: sends somebody to the house. They don't just call the house,
- 13:42Speaker 1: they send somebody you know, Nancy. The other question that
- 13:45Speaker 1: I have about this also is has this ever happened before?
- 13:49Speaker 1: Because isn't it isn't it odd that she asked, is
- 13:52Speaker 1: your mother still asleep? Yeah, nobody would ever think I'll
- 13:55Speaker 1: be asleep at ten thirty four in the morning. What
- 13:57Speaker 1: do we know about at Stephanie, Because if she's never missed,
- 14:00Speaker 1: I'd been late to work before or skipped out on
- 14:03Speaker 1: work totally. You know, I don't see any any indication.
- 14:08Speaker 1: But I did notice the question wise, is your mom asleep?
- 14:10Speaker 1: What did they say? Is your mom here? So that's
- 14:13Speaker 1: a good question. So this is coming from Christie's family,
- 14:17Speaker 1: who say that the coworker came to the house because
- 14:21Speaker 1: they thought she might have fallen back to sleep. Interesting. Interesting,
- 14:25Speaker 1: Something might have been lost in translation there, But christie
- 14:28Speaker 1: mother did tell me that it is unusual for her
- 14:32Speaker 1: daughter to be late and rushing in the morning. I mean,
- 14:35Speaker 1: when you said Stephanie lost in translation? For all I know,
- 14:39Speaker 1: the coworker said, hey, is your mom here? And the
- 14:42Speaker 1: little boy said no, she said work, but let me
- 14:44Speaker 1: make sure she didn't fall back to sleep. I don't
- 14:45Speaker 1: know how that guy's in the mix. Guys, take a
- 14:48Speaker 1: listen to our friend isis Romero k E N S five.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Chrissie Powell called the law firm where she works last
- 14:56Speaker 1: Tuesday to say she was running late on that day,
- 15:00Speaker 1: was seen on video rushing out of her home, but
- 15:04Speaker 1: she never showed up to work. Since then, there has
- 15:07Speaker 1: been no sign of the mother of two. Leyall even
- 15:11Speaker 1: went down the route her friend would have taken to
- 15:13Speaker 1: work to see if maybe she crashed, but nothing. Chrissie
- 15:17Speaker 1: Powell has wavy shoulder length hair. She is five two.
- 15:21Speaker 1: You know, we know the female co worker came to
- 15:24Speaker 1: Chrissie's home around one pm, so she probably came right
- 15:29Speaker 1: after her lunch break. So Stephanie Pogonis, when did mom?
- 15:35Speaker 1: And I find this interesting that she lives at home
- 15:37Speaker 1: with her mother and her children, literally on a cold
- 15:42Speaker 1: sack in Apple Creek neighborhood in San Antonio. Jason Campo
- 15:47Speaker 1: with me, chief prosecutor out of Cameron County. Jason, you
- 15:52Speaker 1: said you're very familiar with the Apple Creek area. Tell
- 15:55Speaker 1: me about it. It's a it's a kind of a
- 15:59Speaker 1: small community be there in the heart of San Antonio,
- 16:03Speaker 1: and like the bigger city, it feels like you're kind
- 16:05Speaker 1: of in a smaller town. It's quiet, trees lining the
- 16:10Speaker 1: sides of the roads. It feels like everyday American town
- 16:17Speaker 1: that doesn't feel like it's part of the big city.
- 16:20Speaker 1: But it is also right there attached to it. I'm
- 16:22Speaker 1: very familiar with it. My first cousin lived there forever
- 16:26Speaker 1: as a cowhand, okay, running a ranch near San Antonio.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Beautiful area. And why I keep saying col de Sac
- 16:36Speaker 1: and I say that, Paul's like, because you ever drove
- 16:38Speaker 1: down to cauld Sack and you get to the very end,
- 16:40Speaker 1: you think, wow, if I lived here, I live on
- 16:42Speaker 1: that last house on the cul de sac. Absolutely no traffic. Yeah,
- 16:46Speaker 1: it's not a cut or a cut through to get
- 16:49Speaker 1: from the shopping center to the Thimbo grocery store. You know,
- 16:54Speaker 1: it's not a cut. There's not a lot of traffic.
- 16:57Speaker 1: You can't cut through a coul de sac. You don't
- 16:59Speaker 1: have a lot to back and forth traffic there. And
- 17:03Speaker 1: here she is at the end of a cul de
- 17:05Speaker 1: sat in Apple Creek neighborhood, for Pete's sake, where nobody
- 17:11Speaker 1: people could probably leave their doors a lot which I
- 17:14Speaker 1: do not advise. And that is significant here because there's
- 17:17Speaker 1: nobody hiding behind a bush to carjack her at the mailbox. No,
- 17:22Speaker 1: And there's no piece of information that would even suggest that.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Certainly right off the bat, I would the fact that
- 17:30Speaker 1: no money's taken from her account. I think the financial
- 17:33Speaker 1: aspect of that is taken out. Even low level criminals
- 17:38Speaker 1: will you know, if they're going to take you a gunpoint,
- 17:42Speaker 1: you know they're going to take you to ATM, they're
- 17:43Speaker 1: going to make you take money out, They're gonna you know,
- 17:46Speaker 1: they're going to pursue what they want as money, you know,
- 17:48Speaker 1: obviosated by drugs. And the second real concerning issue is
- 17:53Speaker 1: the July third text message threats that have been mentioned
- 17:58Speaker 1: with her actor, you know, Stephanie Pogona. Paul Zyke joining
- 18:02Speaker 1: US out of Albuquerque brought up an interesting point that
- 18:07Speaker 1: nothing taken out of the ATM, which suggests to him
- 18:11Speaker 1: a random carjacker didn't grab her and forced her to
- 18:16Speaker 1: go to the bank to withdraw money. But it also
- 18:18Speaker 1: indicates something else if you think about it. The flip
- 18:21Speaker 1: side of that is, if she were just going to
- 18:23Speaker 1: walk away from her beloved children that she took care
- 18:26Speaker 1: of it and loved and lived with, she hasn't withdrawn
- 18:30Speaker 1: any money to live off. What is she going to do?
- 18:34Speaker 1: What go forage in the forest. That's not happening. So
- 18:38Speaker 1: that's a double edged sword right there. Is there any
- 18:42Speaker 1: indication she took any money with her Stephanie so far,
- 18:46Speaker 1: her mother hasn't said whether she has actually taken money
- 18:48Speaker 1: with her. But what her mother has said is that
- 18:51Speaker 1: while they have been able to determine no money has
- 18:54Speaker 1: been taken from her debit account, they have had trouble
- 18:58Speaker 1: and faced resistance in obtaining information about her credit accounts.
- 19:03Speaker 1: They say that when they contacted the powers that be
- 19:06Speaker 1: to get that information, they were told that it can't
- 19:09Speaker 1: be provided to them because Christie is an adult. So
- 19:12Speaker 1: that's something that remains to be determined more or less
- 19:17Speaker 1: by her family. Chrissy Christina Powell goes missing from her
- 19:21Speaker 1: own home. According to ring doorbell cam, she's seen rushing
- 19:25Speaker 1: off dressed for work or bags lung over her shoulder.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Mom gets worried when she realizes Chrissie didn't take her
- 19:33Speaker 1: cell phone or her meds, But then the evening passes
- 19:36Speaker 1: and Chrissy doesn't call back to check on the children
- 19:39Speaker 1: or show up for dinner. The case seemingly goes cold.
- 19:43Speaker 1: You know, Jason Campo, chief Prosecutor, joining us out of
- 19:46Speaker 1: the Texas jurisdiction. The mother has her cell phone. We
- 19:50Speaker 1: know there's been no ATM activity, but that is concerning,
- 19:55Speaker 1: And that brings me to the major point that police
- 19:59Speaker 1: sat on their bombs San ANTONIOPD. I'm calling you out
- 20:04Speaker 1: settle their thombs for three days before they reported Chrissy
- 20:10Speaker 1: as a missing person. What. I don't know if they
- 20:13Speaker 1: put out a bolo for her before those three days,
- 20:16Speaker 1: if they were just to be on the lookout for her.
- 20:18Speaker 1: It's not a missing person you put out a bolo.
- 20:21Speaker 1: I want to escape you from the jail, please, that's correct.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Sometimes they do that in the first couple of days
- 20:27Speaker 1: of a missing person case two to just be on
- 20:30Speaker 1: the lookout, especially when there's nothing that shows right from
- 20:34Speaker 1: the beginning that there's some kind of foul play if
- 20:36Speaker 1: they're starting the investigation. So I don't know if maybe
- 20:40Speaker 1: that's what they were doing, and then once that led
- 20:42Speaker 1: to nothing, that's when they switched it to a missing
- 20:44Speaker 1: person case. But on top on top of the money
- 20:48Speaker 1: not being moved, I think even if she wanted to
- 20:51Speaker 1: walk out, she would have at least taken her medicine
- 20:53Speaker 1: with her right because that's not going to change, and
- 20:55Speaker 1: so I think leaving the medicine that she needed at home.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Two just says that she was planning on coming back
- 21:01Speaker 1: that day after work. I agree. I agree completely, and
- 21:05Speaker 1: I want to talk about her two children. But first
- 21:08Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut eight our friends at
- 21:11Speaker 1: crime online dot com. Family members say they have checked
- 21:14Speaker 1: Pale's bank account and there's been no spending activities or withdrawals.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Her mother was able to access the account from the
- 21:20Speaker 1: phone that was left behind. They have been unable to
- 21:23Speaker 1: look into her credit card activity. However, her route to
- 21:26Speaker 1: work has also been checked. The distance from her home
- 21:29Speaker 1: to work is roughly seven miles and takes about fifteen
- 21:32Speaker 1: minutes to drive. Pal's friends and family have retraced the
- 21:36Speaker 1: possibilities looking for a possible crash. Local hospitals and the
- 21:40Speaker 1: county jail have been covered too, but no sign of
- 21:43Speaker 1: Chrissy Powell. This is why I've determined they need to
- 21:47Speaker 1: be doing. Number One, get other ringdoorbells in off that
- 21:51Speaker 1: cal To sack. You know, they've all got them leading
- 21:54Speaker 1: all the way out of the cal To sack and
- 21:56Speaker 1: then red light camps if they exist, parking garage or
- 22:00Speaker 1: parking lot evidence at work? Did she make it that far?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Did someone accost her when she got there and take
- 22:09Speaker 1: off in her car? Check intersections for evidence, including evidence
- 22:16Speaker 1: that her car may have been hit. You know there
- 22:20Speaker 1: is a scam where somebody will run into your car,
- 22:24Speaker 1: you get out to check on it, and then they
- 22:26Speaker 1: car jack you with the car. That's possible. I would
- 22:28Speaker 1: be checking those intersections and the entire route along the
- 22:31Speaker 1: way when I circle back to you. Stephanie Pogona is
- 22:34Speaker 1: joining us from Fox Digital. I understand the family retraced
- 22:37Speaker 1: her route to work and found nothing, But you need
- 22:40Speaker 1: a crime scene analyst going out there, possibly even a
- 22:45Speaker 1: reconstruction an accident reconstructionist to look to see if there
- 22:50Speaker 1: is any tail lights or broken glass or broken plastic
- 22:55Speaker 1: that they could find from that sort of an attack. Also,
- 23:00Speaker 1: was she a loving target? Did someone somehow jump in
- 23:06Speaker 1: at a red light? Jump in at a stop sign? Also?
- 23:10Speaker 1: Is there any keycard information? Did she try to get
- 23:14Speaker 1: into the building but couldn't? Also is there nav information
- 23:20Speaker 1: navigation information that we could obtain? Also, gas station information,
- 23:25Speaker 1: fast food joints, along the way, did she drive through
- 23:29Speaker 1: Starbucks to get a coffee? Also? Tag grabbers, tag grabbers.
- 23:34Speaker 1: There are those little poles you see on the side
- 23:36Speaker 1: of the Interstate of the road with a metal horizontal strip.
- 23:41Speaker 1: They're grabbing your tag license, and thank Heaven they exist.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Those are just a few things that I want to
- 23:47Speaker 1: throw out, But to you, Stephanie Pogonis, could you address
- 23:51Speaker 1: that please? Yes, absolutely, And I do want to point
- 23:55Speaker 1: out that one of the things I found I noticed
- 23:59Speaker 1: in case, I should say, in the missing endangered adult
- 24:04Speaker 1: flyer that police released, at least the one that they
- 24:07Speaker 1: sent to me, they did not even include information regarding
- 24:12Speaker 1: the kind of car she was driving. Oh, dear Lord
- 24:15Speaker 1: in Heaven. You know I love Andy of Maybury, But
- 24:19Speaker 1: what is is Barney five? What you've got to put
- 24:22Speaker 1: the car in there? I mean, there's a great picture
- 24:24Speaker 1: for standing by the car, but normally they do a
- 24:27Speaker 1: mock up. Stephanie Pagonis of that make and model, that year,
- 24:32Speaker 1: in that color as best as they know it, with
- 24:34Speaker 1: a big picture of the tag number. That's a good catch,
- 24:38Speaker 1: Stephanie Pagonis, This girl is no dummy. Take a listen
- 24:42Speaker 1: to our cut nine our friends at crime online dot Com.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Chrissy Powell is originally from New Haven, Connecticut. She graduated
- 24:49Speaker 1: with a degree in psychology from the University of Texas
- 24:52Speaker 1: at San Antonio and works as a paralegal. News reports
- 24:55Speaker 1: looking at Powell's social media posts say that Powell is
- 24:58Speaker 1: the mother of at least to boys ages three and twelve.
- 25:01Speaker 1: Pal's longtime friend, Lauren Lele, says she took pride in
- 25:05Speaker 1: being a mom. In twenty eighteen, Pal posted a photo
- 25:08Speaker 1: promoting domestic violence awareness, but her latest social posts are
- 25:12Speaker 1: on a more happy note, posting a puppy update with
- 25:15Speaker 1: photos of her two dogs, Oliver and Chevy. So, this
- 25:19Speaker 1: woman has a psychology degree at University Texas and Antonio,
- 25:23Speaker 1: she's originally from Newhaving, Connecticut, and she's made a real
- 25:27Speaker 1: life for herself. It's not like she's out turning tricks
- 25:31Speaker 1: and buying crack on the corner. That means a lot.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold explain why her lifestyle is significant. It
- 25:40Speaker 1: sounds like she's a very responsible person. And of course
- 25:45Speaker 1: we don't know a lot of her background. It it
- 25:48Speaker 1: seems like we don't know a lot of her background,
- 25:49Speaker 1: her different relationships that she's been on but she certainly
- 25:54Speaker 1: seems very responsible at this point, because, like you said, Nancy,
- 25:57Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many people are aware of how
- 26:00Speaker 1: of the kind of job that a paralegal does. But
- 26:02Speaker 1: it's a very important job, and you have to be
- 26:05Speaker 1: really good at that job for somebody to keep you around,
- 26:07Speaker 1: because the lawyers depend very heavily on their paralegals. That's
- 26:11Speaker 1: my understanding. So she's got two children, she's living with
- 26:16Speaker 1: her mother, she's got a new car, she's got a
- 26:20Speaker 1: full time job. She's got a good degree from college.
- 26:24Speaker 1: It's not easy to get a psychology degree. Okay, So
- 26:28Speaker 1: all of these things indicate a stability in her life. Okay.
- 26:33Speaker 1: I was waiting for you to make the connection to victimology,
- 26:37Speaker 1: Jason Campbell. What I'm looking for. Everything that Angela Arnold
- 26:40Speaker 1: said is true, but it all equals to one thing.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Low crime risk. Absolutely, she seems like a low crime
- 26:48Speaker 1: risk type of a victim. She is somebody that is reliable.
- 26:52Speaker 1: She's somebody that you can count on. The fact that
- 26:54Speaker 1: they sent somebody to her home tells me that she's
- 26:57Speaker 1: worked there long enough that they think that it's odd
- 27:02Speaker 1: or out of her behavior that she wouldn't come in.
- 27:04Speaker 1: We do the same thing here at our office. If
- 27:05Speaker 1: we can't get ahold of somebody by nine o'clock nine
- 27:09Speaker 1: thirty in the morning and we haven't heard from them,
- 27:12Speaker 1: we send an investigator or somebody to their home to
- 27:16Speaker 1: check and find out what's going on. Because in order
- 27:19Speaker 1: to maintain these jobs, I think you have to be
- 27:21Speaker 1: a reliable type of a person, and when you do
- 27:23Speaker 1: something like that, it sends up red flags right away.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace what happened to Chrissy. She
- 27:46Speaker 1: takes off, leaving behind her mom who helps take care
- 27:49Speaker 1: of her child, headed to her job as a paralegal,
- 27:54Speaker 1: all dressed for work, and then seemingly vanishes into thin air.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Another thing that's very troubling is this. Take a listen
- 28:03Speaker 1: to our cut ten our friends at climb online dot com.
- 28:07Speaker 1: New information shows that Chrissie Powell and the father of
- 28:10Speaker 1: one of her two children argued over text messages. Powell
- 28:13Speaker 1: had left her phone at home the day she disappeared.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Her mother, Claudia Mobley, told the son that her daughter
- 28:20Speaker 1: had argued with the father of the three year old.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Mobley says she doesn't know what the pair were arguing about.
- 28:26Speaker 1: But she adds that it wasn't unusual. Mobley says that
- 28:29Speaker 1: she doesn't think the X could have hurt her daughter,
- 28:31Speaker 1: and he has spoken to the police. When Chrissy Powell
- 28:34Speaker 1: didn't show up at work, one of her colleagues went
- 28:37Speaker 1: to her Apple Creek home to check in on her.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Powell's old a son, twelve years old, answered the door.
- 28:42Speaker 1: When asked if his mom was home, he replied, she's
- 28:45Speaker 1: at work. In a span of just three hours, Chrissie
- 28:49Speaker 1: Powell disappeared. Claudia Mobley says her conversation with her daughter
- 28:53Speaker 1: that morning was nothing out of the ordinary. They exchanged
- 28:56Speaker 1: morning greetings followed by I'm leaving, I'm late, and be careful,
- 29:00Speaker 1: love you. Mobley saw her daughter drive away after the
- 29:03Speaker 1: colleague visit, and when her daughter didn't return home, Mobley
- 29:07Speaker 1: reported her daughter missing with the San Antonio Police Department
- 29:10Speaker 1: the next day. You know it's interesting about that will
- 29:12Speaker 1: so many things. Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrist joining us
- 29:15Speaker 1: out of the Atlanta jurisdiction and you can find her
- 29:18Speaker 1: at Angela Arnold MD dot com. Doctor Angie. The dichotomy
- 29:22Speaker 1: of it being a normal morning, grabbing your stuff, running
- 29:26Speaker 1: out the door. You're late saying bye, I love you,
- 29:29Speaker 1: Be careful. It just brings back to mind the day
- 29:34Speaker 1: I learned my fiance have been murdered. I had been
- 29:36Speaker 1: in a statistics exam and I walked out and inside
- 29:40Speaker 1: it was an old building at Mercy University, and it
- 29:44Speaker 1: was dark in there in the hallway, and I walked
- 29:46Speaker 1: out and it was sunny and bright and beautiful. I thought, wow,
- 29:51Speaker 1: and started walking To work the dichotomy between what feels
- 29:56Speaker 1: to be a normal day and then all of a
- 29:59Speaker 1: sudden world blows up. Nobody is ready for this. That
- 30:03Speaker 1: mother and those two children are not ready for this.
- 30:07Speaker 1: It changes everything. Well, it knocks them off their guard also,
- 30:12Speaker 1: so first they're in shock about what's happened, and they're
- 30:16Speaker 1: kind of learning what's happened all along. Right, it's not
- 30:21Speaker 1: like you go, oh my god, she's been kidnapped, Oh
- 30:22Speaker 1: my god, she's run away. No, every day they're wondering
- 30:26Speaker 1: in their mind, oh, what in the world happened to her?
- 30:29Speaker 1: Why would she do this? So people are trying to
- 30:32Speaker 1: gather evidence, but at the same time there's a level
- 30:35Speaker 1: of shock that's going on with the family. The answer
- 30:40Speaker 1: is the car we now learn Chrissy's vehicle first spotted
- 30:44Speaker 1: by security guards and the parking lot of a nearby
- 30:48Speaker 1: shopping strip mall Kibner Oaks Center. They walk passed the
- 30:54Speaker 1: car over and over. Take a listen to k E
- 30:58Speaker 1: N S five. According to a SAPD on Saturday evening,
- 31:02Speaker 1: a security guard checked on a suspicious vehicle as a
- 31:05Speaker 1: PD says the car had been parked in the same
- 31:07Speaker 1: location for about a week. The fact that this car
- 31:11Speaker 1: might have been there for up to three weeks and
- 31:13Speaker 1: it wasn't, you know, reported until the last week. It's
- 31:19Speaker 1: just it's hard for me to understand, Leo says. The
- 31:21Speaker 1: shopping center is not close to her friend's work. Unknown
- 31:25Speaker 1: is hard, but I think trying to put all the
- 31:27Speaker 1: pieces together is even more frustrating. Was her car there
- 31:31Speaker 1: this whole time? Where if it wasn't? Where was it?
- 31:34Speaker 1: And so just pray that we can find out the details.
- 31:39Speaker 1: And now we learn what happened to Chrissy. Her body
- 31:44Speaker 1: discovered in the passenger seat off her own car, the
- 31:47Speaker 1: ones she left home in, parked outside the Salt Grass Steakhouse.
- 31:54Speaker 1: It's there, not far from home, and the Humaner Oaks
- 31:58Speaker 1: shopping Plaza now a security guard says they've been sitting
- 32:03Speaker 1: there for a week. As he got closer, he sensed
- 32:07Speaker 1: a foul odor coming from inside. Wait a minute. He
- 32:12Speaker 1: passes a parked car with a woman in the front
- 32:15Speaker 1: seat and it sits there for a week until her
- 32:20Speaker 1: body starts to decompose. Take a listen to k e
- 32:25Speaker 1: n S five developing attend the case of a missing
- 32:28Speaker 1: mother now a death investigation. Three weeks ago, Chrissie Powell
- 32:33Speaker 1: was rushing out of her home to get to work,
- 32:36Speaker 1: but she never made it. Believe say Powell's body was
- 32:39Speaker 1: found in her car. It was parked at the shopping
- 32:42Speaker 1: center at Heibner Oaks. Because my reporter, Henry Damis is
- 32:45Speaker 1: live there now, and Henry, do we know how this
- 32:48Speaker 1: mother died? The news that the family feared, and now
- 32:51Speaker 1: they're left with so many other questions. How long was
- 32:54Speaker 1: Powell here and how did that mother lose her life?
- 32:58Speaker 1: For the last three weeks, it's been held and it
- 33:00Speaker 1: isn't getting any better. For Lauren Leon, she just found
- 33:04Speaker 1: out her best friend, who was more like a sister,
- 33:07Speaker 1: is dead. It's very hard, just so I'll never see
- 33:11Speaker 1: her or talk to her. San Antonio police. A palace
- 33:14Speaker 1: body was found in her car at the parking lot
- 33:17Speaker 1: at Hebnuok Center. According to SAPD, on Saturday evening, a
- 33:21Speaker 1: security guard checked on a suspicious vehicle. Once he got closer,
- 33:26Speaker 1: he smelt something foul. He looked inside and saw a
- 33:29Speaker 1: body in the front passenger seat and called nine one one.
- 33:34Speaker 1: At first, police sources tell us they didn't know how
- 33:37Speaker 1: Chrissy had died, but they knew her body showed no
- 33:42Speaker 1: signs of trauma. Then we learn they stated it could
- 33:47Speaker 1: be a number of things carbon monoxide, eat, exhaustion, medication.
- 33:52Speaker 1: You had to wait for the autopsy report. We now
- 33:57Speaker 1: learned the official cause of death for this rgeous young
- 34:00Speaker 1: mom of two hyperthermia got too hot in the car
- 34:05Speaker 1: that she was sitting in, complicated with ethanol poisoning, which
- 34:10Speaker 1: is from drinking. After days of suffering, Chrissie's mother, Claudia
- 34:16Speaker 1: gets the horrible news her daughter, a gorgeous young mom
- 34:20Speaker 1: of two paralegal, is dead. She had been begging for
- 34:26Speaker 1: information that could lead to the whereabouts of her daughter.
- 34:31Speaker 1: She ultimately posed. She was quote heart broken by the
- 34:36Speaker 1: discovery of Chrissie's body. Well the case file may be closed,
- 34:42Speaker 1: but this family, including her mother and two little children,
- 34:46Speaker 1: are left with a life sentence without Chrissie. Nancy Grace's
- 34:53Speaker 1: crime story signing off goodbye Friend three