Latest / Brian Thomas / 55KRC Thursday Show - Cong Davidson, Richard Lyons, Steve Goodin, Jim Lewis, Jay Ratliff
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- 0:07Speaker 1: Five o five.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Fifty five k r C The Doctor Station. Friday Eves
- 0:18Speaker 2: some sa.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I no idea?
- 0:30Speaker 3: What's going on?
- 0:31Speaker 4: Yeah, I neither do. I Happy Friday Eve Thursday, of course.
- 0:34Speaker 4: Brian Thomas right here, glad to be, Glad to see
- 0:35Speaker 4: Joe Chrecker where he belongs. He's the executive producer of
- 0:37Speaker 4: this program, also the premier podcast producer in the entire country,
- 0:43Speaker 4: including the jurisdictions and territories of the United States of America.
- 0:47Speaker 4: Jude Tracker, he'll produce your podcast if you want him to,
- 0:49Speaker 4: just call him. Somebody else is gonna be calling up
- 0:52Speaker 4: this morning. Congressman Warren Davidson coming up seven oh five.
- 0:54Speaker 4: Thank you Joe Tracker for lining up Congressman Davidson. I'm
- 0:57Speaker 4: sure interested in his reaction and your react into the
- 1:00Speaker 4: Fauci circus yesterday five three seven four nine fifty five
- 1:04Speaker 4: hundred eight eight two three taco with pound five fifty
- 1:06Speaker 4: on at and T funds.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Yeah, Fauci.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Eh what did he say? Literally nothing? On the advice
- 1:15Speaker 4: of Council, I respectfully declined to answer, based upon my
- 1:17Speaker 4: rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. One hundred
- 1:21Speaker 4: and eleven times worth of that. But what did we
- 1:23Speaker 4: get out of that? A lot of damning information. See,
- 1:29Speaker 4: Fauci didn't have to testify, did he. You have all
- 1:32Speaker 4: of these senators standing around with all of his diary
- 1:35Speaker 4: entries and all of the posts, and all of the
- 1:37Speaker 4: records and all of the other information, concrete evidence that
- 1:41Speaker 4: would be admissible in court, which may ultimately be admissible
- 1:45Speaker 4: in court someplace, because you know, one of the reasons
- 1:47Speaker 4: he may have had taken his or taken a fifth
- 1:49Speaker 4: on all this. He could be facing some criminal charges
- 1:52Speaker 4: in states possibly. I was scratching my head trying to
- 1:56Speaker 4: figure out why, and many people are questioning, well, if
- 1:58Speaker 4: state attorney generals could have gone after could go after Fauci,
- 2:01Speaker 4: how come none of them have done it yet? Maybe
- 2:03Speaker 4: they still will. Maybe that's the reason his lawyers told
- 2:06Speaker 4: him to not answer any questions. Or maybe he's just
- 2:09Speaker 4: trying to kick the can down the road again knowing
- 2:11Speaker 4: he's going to be brought in from the Congress on
- 2:13Speaker 4: a contempt hearing, which don't hold your breath for that one.
- 2:16Speaker 4: It would require sixty votes in the Senate anyway, got
- 2:20Speaker 4: a lot more details on that coming up. Certainly I'll
- 2:22Speaker 4: be talking about that with Congressman Warren Davidson seven to five,
- 2:24Speaker 4: along with Congress on recess, anything getting done, and the
- 2:27Speaker 4: latest in Iran. Yes, we went and hit Iran yesterday
- 2:30Speaker 4: with a bunch of missile strikes. How many more missiles
- 2:34Speaker 4: do we have? And it's whirling reports that were running
- 2:38Speaker 4: out of munitions. Even more of that being reported today.
- 2:41Speaker 4: Talked about that earlier in the week with the retired
- 2:44Speaker 4: Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis during the Deep Dive discussion. Anyhow,
- 2:48Speaker 4: So that's multiple topics of Congressman Warren Davidson. Then at
- 2:50Speaker 4: seven thirty we're gonna hear from Richard Lyons. And who's Richard.
- 2:53Speaker 4: He is the author of a series. It's a three
- 2:57Speaker 4: volume series called The DNA of Democracy. Do you have
- 3:02Speaker 4: the DNA of Democracy of volume one, which is the
- 3:08Speaker 4: Democracy Theories, you have Shadows of the Acropolis, which is
- 3:12Speaker 4: the name of volume two, and then Passages through the Shadows,
- 3:15Speaker 4: which is the name of volume three. So he's described
- 3:18Speaker 4: as an American poet and author. It takes an interesting
- 3:21Speaker 4: look at democracy through a series of essays and different topics, like,
- 3:25Speaker 4: for example, in the second volume, do you ever wonder
- 3:27Speaker 4: why as a citizen it seems like you're no longer represented.
- 3:31Speaker 4: You ever wonder why half the nation is in sense
- 3:33Speaker 4: no matter who the president happens to be. You ever
- 3:35Speaker 4: wonder why the nation feels so politically divided? Just a
- 3:38Speaker 4: couple of question marks we can ask him about. At
- 3:41Speaker 4: seven point thirty to talk about the DNA Democracy Series,
- 3:44Speaker 4: the return of our resident legal expert. We welcome up
- 3:47Speaker 4: in the back room Steve Gooden from the law firm
- 3:50Speaker 4: or Porter Wright Morrison author Porterwright dot com where you
- 3:52Speaker 4: find Steve day to day. But he's going to be
- 3:54Speaker 4: on the program in seven forty five to talk about
- 3:56Speaker 4: the Fifth Amendment and what it means considering Fauci has
- 4:00Speaker 4: pardon and you're not allowed to hide behind the Fifth
- 4:03Speaker 4: Amendment if you've been pardoned. So what was yesterday then?
- 4:07Speaker 4: Is the looming threat of potential prosecution enough to allow
- 4:10Speaker 4: him to raise his hand and say or to stand
- 4:12Speaker 4: there and straight face say, I'm the advice of counsel.
- 4:15Speaker 4: I'm going to assert my Fifth Amendment rights. I previously
- 4:19Speaker 4: read that that no, you can't do that, it's evaporated.
- 4:21Speaker 4: Talked a little bit about that with Judge Ennapaul Tani yesterday.
- 4:24Speaker 4: That podcast, like others available at five care see dot
- 4:27Speaker 4: iHeart dot com. So Steve Gooden will chime in on
- 4:30Speaker 4: that subject seven forty five, follow by Jim Lewis Building
- 4:33Speaker 4: Blocks for Liberty Jim Lewis, he's got a liberty lesson,
- 4:37Speaker 4: actually two liberty lessons on the same topic, notably the
- 4:41Speaker 4: recent Supreme Court opinion on birthright citizen ship. Many very
- 4:46Speaker 4: disappointed to the Supreme Court on that one. Conversations about
- 4:49Speaker 4: the interpretation Fourth Amendment. So that liberty lesson will have
- 4:53Speaker 4: two opportunities for you to go in and talk about that.
- 4:56Speaker 4: First one August eighth, Freedom Church on Cornell Road and
- 5:00Speaker 4: the second one August twenty second at the Springboro Public Library.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Jim Lewis does a great job, so we'll dive into
- 5:06Speaker 4: the details on that with Jim at eighto five. And
- 5:08Speaker 4: then I dearly love my Friday Eves because I dearly
- 5:11Speaker 4: love the man who is Jay Ratliffe. It's a platonic
- 5:14Speaker 4: friendship love. He's a great man. I get a kick
- 5:16Speaker 4: out of him. His stories are great. I love our
- 5:18Speaker 4: interactions and it's a great way to close out a
- 5:20Speaker 4: Friday Eve. At least that's my perspective. That's why we
- 5:23Speaker 4: have him on every Thursday. Have you on immediately if
- 5:26Speaker 4: you want, just call. The phone lines are wide open.
- 5:29Speaker 4: No one's on the whole five one, three, seven, four,
- 5:31Speaker 4: nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three
- 5:33Speaker 4: talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Yes,
- 5:36Speaker 4: doctor Fauci with his Fifth Amendment assertions, so one hundred
- 5:39Speaker 4: eleven times on that one. Uh, you know, and what
- 5:47Speaker 4: came out. I don't know what your reaction is yesterday,
- 5:49Speaker 4: because of course it would have been nice to have
- 5:52Speaker 4: found she answered the questions. I don't imagine how long
- 5:54Speaker 4: that hearing would have gone if he had to actually
- 5:58Speaker 4: answer all of the questions that we're going to be
- 6:01Speaker 4: asked of him. And I'm sure we got I mean,
- 6:04Speaker 4: we got a big eye full of all this damning information.
- 6:07Speaker 4: And I walked away feeling like I needed to take
- 6:09Speaker 4: a shower. That guy was awful. That's a delicate way
- 6:14Speaker 4: of putting it that I do have the SEC compliance
- 6:16Speaker 4: issues to argue with or to deal with, and on
- 6:19Speaker 4: that one, just let me zip over on a little
- 6:21Speaker 4: cul de sac while it's on my mind. Do we
- 6:23Speaker 4: need our side of the political ledge of politicians dropping
- 6:27Speaker 4: f bombs all the time. Yeah, Trump did it yester
- 6:32Speaker 4: or just the day before? It was it yesterday? That
- 6:33Speaker 4: day was yesterday. I believe he's like, I mean, just
- 6:36Speaker 4: a short, quick, recent list of F bombs. We're going
- 6:40Speaker 4: to beat the F wording s wording out of them.
- 6:43Speaker 4: Trump speaking with Fox News the other day about the Iranians, Okay,
- 6:50Speaker 4: do you need the the the exploitives in there to
- 6:52Speaker 4: convey that message? Would it be a little bit more
- 6:55Speaker 4: presidential to not drop the F bomb? I certainly think
- 6:58Speaker 4: it is. And don't listen. I am no saint when
- 7:00Speaker 4: it comes to cursing. But you know there's appropriate time
- 7:03Speaker 4: and place on this. I'm on the radio four hours
- 7:05Speaker 4: Monday through Friday all year long, with the exception of vacations,
- 7:08Speaker 4: and I managed to keep my my the F bombs
- 7:11Speaker 4: out of my lexicon during this program. It's not that
- 7:15Speaker 4: I don't want to use it from time to time,
- 7:17Speaker 4: but you know, I'm not allowed to. But see, if
- 7:19Speaker 4: you're in the role of president, maybe that's one of
- 7:21Speaker 4: those default rules. Go with the I'm not allowed to
- 7:24Speaker 4: drop F bombs as your default mode, and then maybe
- 7:28Speaker 4: we'll maintain an error presidential. He's sort of an error.
- 7:32Speaker 4: Respectful you know about. It's the position struggling with my
- 7:39Speaker 4: words this morning, maybe because I can't use FCC non
- 7:42Speaker 4: complyingt language. You get the idea, though in certain settings
- 7:45Speaker 4: maybe you can make a justification for it. And you know,
- 7:47Speaker 4: there are people out there in the world that you know,
- 7:49Speaker 4: if you use any curse words under any circumstances, even
- 7:51Speaker 4: if you're just hanging out with a bunch of guys,
- 7:53Speaker 4: they're going to look at you like you murdered someone.
- 7:55Speaker 4: I understand the mentality, but you know, we live in
- 7:59Speaker 4: a more crass world right now and a lot of
- 8:01Speaker 4: people use a lot more curse words. And apparently I
- 8:03Speaker 4: think this is all connected with getting clicks on the
- 8:07Speaker 4: internet and quickly this you know, clicking on something because
- 8:10Speaker 4: some politician like, oh my god, he or she said that,
- 8:14Speaker 4: and you click on it. Maybe that's what they're looking
- 8:16Speaker 4: for clicks, so people refer it and maybe the underlying
- 8:19Speaker 4: message built around the use of the expletive is what
- 8:22Speaker 4: the message is that wants to be conveyed, like Hey Iranians,
- 8:25Speaker 4: I'm going to bomb you. You just say that, or
- 8:29Speaker 4: Hey Iranians, I'm going to fing bomb the s out
- 8:33Speaker 4: of you. Is one going to get more clicks than
- 8:35Speaker 4: the other.
- 8:36Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 8:36Speaker 4: Does one convey a more pronounced message than the other?
- 8:39Speaker 4: I don't know, But Bernie Morina did it yesterday to
- 8:41Speaker 4: during the Fauci hearing, so made me think about it.
- 8:44Speaker 4: And he was making really good points, and I know
- 8:46Speaker 4: he sounded really indignant, and I know he was very
- 8:49Speaker 4: indignant at the end, and maybe that was the reason
- 8:51Speaker 4: he said and felt it necessary to say, who the
- 8:54Speaker 4: F word do you think you are? Seems to me,
- 9:01Speaker 4: since he had already made all of the points about
- 9:05Speaker 4: this poor family that got arrested because of the nonsensical
- 9:13Speaker 4: mask rules that he foisted upon us, Doctor Fauci did
- 9:18Speaker 4: with no basis in science, no basis in fact, a
- 9:22Speaker 4: role that he knew was a pointless gesture, and he
- 9:25Speaker 4: even previously had said it was a pointless gesture before.
- 9:28Speaker 2: He changed his mind. If you get a family going
- 9:32Speaker 2: to a football game sitting by themselves outdoors, a family
- 9:37Speaker 2: always that lives together in their own home, they're breathing
- 9:40Speaker 2: on each other all the time. They don't have masks
- 9:42Speaker 2: on their own home.
- 9:43Speaker 4: So the fact they're sitting down at the end of bleachers,
- 9:45Speaker 4: away from everybody else at an outdoor event, ultimately got
- 9:49Speaker 4: arrested because they didn't have masks on.
- 9:51Speaker 2: That's how bad things were.
- 9:52Speaker 4: And that's the kind of story that I'm glad I
- 9:55Speaker 4: was reminded of, because you know, when the years go by,
- 9:58Speaker 4: the memories of this outlanding things, it's kind of fade
- 10:01Speaker 4: away a little bit. But one illustration after another about
- 10:05Speaker 4: what doctor Fauci did, what he was doing behind the scenes,
- 10:08Speaker 4: what he believed in his mind, based upon his diary entries,
- 10:11Speaker 4: which he admits are his versus what he was out
- 10:14Speaker 4: there peddling to us, that he was selling lockdowns and
- 10:19Speaker 4: pushing lockdowns on governors, and he was proud of the
- 10:22Speaker 4: fact that they were listening to them, and they did,
- 10:24Speaker 4: even though he out loud said, well, we don't need
- 10:26Speaker 4: to engage in this lockdown stuff.
- 10:27Speaker 2: I mean, what is that all about?
- 10:33Speaker 4: But I was great. I thought the story was a
- 10:34Speaker 4: great one. I just didn't think and here's me just
- 10:38Speaker 4: I'm being critical. Yeah, two Republicans. I got Donald Trump
- 10:41Speaker 4: and I got Bernie Marino that and I'm a little
- 10:43Speaker 4: upset about they felt the need to drop an F
- 10:45Speaker 4: bomb in there. Why, Well, it's like I'm critical of
- 10:49Speaker 4: Republicans like Mitch McConnell, when they don't really provide us
- 10:52Speaker 4: with the information about what in the hell is going
- 10:54Speaker 4: on behind the scenes. Mitch, get on television yourself and
- 10:58Speaker 4: make a message yourself and prove the rest of the
- 11:00Speaker 4: world that you're still alive and well and we've got
- 11:02Speaker 4: some hope you're coming back to office. And I know
- 11:04Speaker 4: some people don't run back in office whatever, but I
- 11:07Speaker 4: expect better from the Republican side of the ledger. I'm
- 11:11Speaker 4: not a big r Republican that I'm registered as one.
- 11:15Speaker 4: You know't meet little old libertarian. But you know what,
- 11:17Speaker 4: more on my side of the ledger of the Republicans
- 11:18Speaker 4: are at least in terms of traditional policy points. But
- 11:24Speaker 4: shouldn't we be the better side. Shouldn't we rise above
- 11:29Speaker 4: and let them wallow around the filth and drop F
- 11:32Speaker 4: bombs left and right, which the left does constantly. Just
- 11:38Speaker 4: the thought, I've listened to so many Republicans so many times,
- 11:43Speaker 4: and I rarely have heard this over the years, and
- 11:46Speaker 4: this just now starts creeping in more and more and
- 11:50Speaker 4: that moreno F bomb yesterday, it kind of took me
- 11:52Speaker 4: out of nowhere, caught me off guard. Now, man, that
- 11:56Speaker 4: was not necessary you made a great point, and you
- 11:59Speaker 4: could just looked at him and said, who do you
- 12:01Speaker 4: think you are? And I think it would have been
- 12:05Speaker 4: equally effective, and it certainly wouldn't rubbed me the wrong way.
- 12:11Speaker 4: And I'm just one of a multitude of people out
- 12:15Speaker 4: there who also may have been rubbed the wrong way.
- 12:18Speaker 4: No one's gonna be bothered. Here's my final point in
- 12:21Speaker 4: this topic. And I'm sorry I went down this road,
- 12:24Speaker 4: but I felt the necessary.
- 12:25Speaker 2: They need to do it.
- 12:26Speaker 4: No one's gonna be bothered if you don't interject an
- 12:32Speaker 4: F bomb. Ponder that one from a political standpoint. Five
- 12:35Speaker 4: eighteen Right now, fifty five k SE the talk station.
- 12:38Speaker 2: This is fifty five KRC, an iHeartRadio station.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Fingerscrossed for Saturday, maybe the rain will not enter the area.
- 12:47Speaker 4: It's the Hoodie Memorial charity event that I've been invited
- 12:50Speaker 4: to do every old year for years and years and years.
- 12:53Speaker 4: A wonderful charity event. Hoodie was a Golden Knight, one
- 12:59Speaker 4: of the Army parachute groups, and it's like they do
- 13:03Speaker 4: stunts and shows, and he died tragic death. But everybody
- 13:08Speaker 4: loved this guy, huge supporter of the Westchester area, loved
- 13:12Speaker 4: talking about his hometown. Everywhere he went around the world,
- 13:15Speaker 4: in his escapades with the military, he would talk about
- 13:18Speaker 4: and sing the praises of his hometown. Just a regular guy,
- 13:21Speaker 4: you know, no academic genius, but just one of those
- 13:24Speaker 4: like the glue. You know, there's always this one guy.
- 13:26Speaker 4: If that guy's going to show up someplace, well he's
- 13:28Speaker 4: gonna be there, let's go. They all loved him, and
- 13:31Speaker 4: so when he passed away, they created this wonderful charity.
- 13:34Speaker 4: It's a scholarship, and it turned into it. It gets
- 13:36Speaker 4: bigger and bigger and bigger, to the point where it's
- 13:38Speaker 4: actually self funded. It always sells out. The golf tournament does,
- 13:41Speaker 4: and they always invite me to speak a few words.
- 13:43Speaker 4: They got a great dinner celebration and auction and everything.
- 13:46Speaker 4: So that's taking place on Saturday. Only say it out loud,
- 13:48Speaker 4: because you know, power of prayers. I've been sort of
- 13:51Speaker 4: enlightened to the realities of it and how well it works.
- 13:56Speaker 4: Pray for the Hodie Memorial. What a good turnout. Want
- 13:58Speaker 4: to put some money together for some skot New Hampster, Gary.
- 14:01Speaker 4: Welcome to the program man. Happy Friday Eve to you.
- 14:05Speaker 5: Hey, Happy Friday to you too. Hey, I'm just thinking
- 14:08Speaker 5: maybe maybe uh the uh, Bernie Moreno's getting all of
- 14:13Speaker 5: his uh you know, they do test studies and surveys,
- 14:18Speaker 5: so maybe he's getting the same surveys about dropping the
- 14:22Speaker 5: F bomb from the Democrat sides, being he's working with
- 14:26Speaker 5: Elizabeth Warren on.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Your nice looking Gary did No.
- 14:34Speaker 4: I didn't, And I've been trying to defend Bernie or
- 14:38Speaker 4: you know, for for doing that, because you know, just
- 14:40Speaker 4: like I said, at least he's elevating an awareness on
- 14:43Speaker 4: both sides of the political spectrum that we've got a
- 14:45Speaker 4: massive problem on our heads with sois security. I didn't
- 14:48Speaker 4: like the fix, but you got to start somewhere, so
- 14:52Speaker 4: I get where you're coming from. But you know, at
- 14:54Speaker 4: least in so far as algorithms or whether there's been
- 14:57Speaker 4: studies done, because it's so easy to do since every
- 15:00Speaker 4: body's connected to the Internet, all the data is being
- 15:02Speaker 4: absorbed up and they know how many clicks go on
- 15:04Speaker 4: any particular post, maybe there was research and maybe they
- 15:08Speaker 4: do realize that if you drop an F bomb in
- 15:10Speaker 4: a statement, more people are going to look at it
- 15:12Speaker 4: for some stupid, twisted reason. So that may ultimately be
- 15:16Speaker 4: the answer to the question I think there might be
- 15:17Speaker 4: something behind that, but what what do you do with that?
- 15:19Speaker 4: In return for additional clicks, you sacrifice a measure of
- 15:23Speaker 4: your own credibility, and that's my problem with it.
- 15:26Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, you could just see it. You know, Washington,
- 15:32Speaker 5: when you go there, you kind of lose time, and
- 15:35Speaker 5: you know it's human nature. Maybe power corrupts, absolute power
- 15:39Speaker 5: corrupts absolutely, so you know, maybe you do it was
- 15:42Speaker 5: a little touch of what you originally started off to do.
- 15:47Speaker 5: And you know, well, I am just a social security
- 15:51Speaker 5: battle on that.
- 15:52Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Gary, all I can say is I suppose
- 15:55Speaker 4: there's a measure of truth in what you say, because
- 15:57Speaker 4: if you're hanging out with a bunch of people who
- 15:59Speaker 4: always are dropping f bombs, are using expert as regularly
- 16:02Speaker 4: over and over again for emphasis or any other reason,
- 16:04Speaker 4: you may very well adopt the same habit. And I
- 16:08Speaker 4: can only imagine that's exactly what goes on in Washington, DC,
- 16:11Speaker 4: a bunch of people screaming at each other and yelling
- 16:13Speaker 4: at each other and calling each other names, which is
- 16:15Speaker 4: about all that seems to get accomplished anymore these days.
- 16:18Speaker 4: Thank you, Gary, I have a wonderful day. Brothers five twenty.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Five right now. Video five cares any talk days.
- 16:24Speaker 4: You can call love to hear from me if you
- 16:25Speaker 4: choose to do that otherwise. Got some local stories including
- 16:28Speaker 4: wait a minute, bi partisanship in the city of Cincinnati
- 16:34Speaker 4: and swirling around the Cincinnati Public schools.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Levy ask how did that happen? Five twenty five right now,
- 16:42Speaker 2: be right.
- 16:42Speaker 4: Back in this edition of the Marketers Report, Chris Epple
- 16:46Speaker 4: Kushaia five twenty nine by Mike Clock five one, three,
- 16:50Speaker 4: seven eight eight.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Two to three Talk T five fifty one eighteen T
- 16:54Speaker 2: phone before we get.
- 16:56Speaker 4: A glimpse into local bipartisanship, at least a glimmer of it.
- 16:59Speaker 4: Let's see what Tom Scott this morning. Tom, thanks for
- 17:01Speaker 4: calling us always, welcome back, my friend.
- 17:04Speaker 6: Good morning. How's mom in them?
- 17:06Speaker 2: Beg your pardon?
- 17:07Speaker 6: How's mom in them?
- 17:10Speaker 7: Mom and them?
- 17:11Speaker 6: It's another Gary Burbank thing. He always talking to somebody.
- 17:15Speaker 6: I just I love listening to dude.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Okay, you threw me for a curve on that one,
- 17:20Speaker 2: but doesn't matter.
- 17:22Speaker 6: Sorry you you don't remember that one?
- 17:23Speaker 7: No, I don't.
- 17:24Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, So you're you're trying to play golf Saturday.
- 17:29Speaker 6: Hopefully you get no.
- 17:30Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you misunderstood me.
- 17:33Speaker 2: I'm speaking, oh at the golf event.
- 17:37Speaker 4: I'll be speaking to the actual golfers at one o'clock
- 17:40Speaker 4: at the club as they go off and play golf.
- 17:43Speaker 4: I will retreat and then return to the post golf
- 17:47Speaker 4: charity dinner, where I also will speak a little bit more.
- 17:50Speaker 7: So.
- 17:50Speaker 4: Yeah, I choose not the golf. I've mentioned that so
- 17:53Speaker 4: many times in the radio. My dad has got a
- 17:55Speaker 4: frown on his face right now as he looks down
- 17:57Speaker 4: on me.
- 18:00Speaker 2: He tried, he did, he tried.
- 18:04Speaker 4: No, no, and I'll give him credit. No, I took lessons.
- 18:07Speaker 4: He took me, and we played golf together. He made
- 18:10Speaker 4: sure that at least he didn't leave this planet with
- 18:12Speaker 4: his son who was incapable of playing golf.
- 18:16Speaker 2: But you can't. You can lead a horse to water, right.
- 18:18Speaker 7: Uh.
- 18:19Speaker 4: I just not hip to the game because it takes
- 18:21Speaker 4: too much time. It's it's forever, it's your five hours
- 18:25Speaker 4: out there minimum. It's like god, you know, if it
- 18:27Speaker 4: was a nine hole game, you know, two hours in
- 18:29Speaker 4: and out, grab a beer with your buddies. I would
- 18:31Speaker 4: probably embrace it. It's just no, I'm not spending five
- 18:34Speaker 4: and a half plus hours out of my day in
- 18:36Speaker 4: the hot sun, in humidity, chasing the ball around. It's
- 18:39Speaker 4: not my idea of a good time whatever. Everybody's got
- 18:42Speaker 4: their own thing, Tom.
- 18:43Speaker 6: You know what I mean, right, yeah, right. I was
- 18:45Speaker 6: talking to guy yesterday. He loved hunt. And you got
- 18:48Speaker 6: these guys that are gonna sit in a stand all
- 18:50Speaker 6: day long, now before sun up to after sundown. I
- 18:54Speaker 6: don't know how you do it.
- 18:55Speaker 4: No, invite me to a bar and sit down over
- 18:58Speaker 4: beers and have some wings and and chat. Much better
- 19:01Speaker 4: environment than a deer stand.
- 19:03Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, I agree with that one on your topic
- 19:08Speaker 6: this morning. I work construction, as you know, and so
- 19:12Speaker 6: I may or may not hear an F bomb uh
- 19:15Speaker 6: and now all the time, like that's that's pretty much
- 19:19Speaker 6: talk here.
- 19:20Speaker 7: That's I know.
- 19:20Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah exactly, So that F and s and everything,
- 19:24Speaker 6: you know, anything that you're not allowed to say on
- 19:27Speaker 6: the radio, I'm hearing it. I'll probably hear it on
- 19:29Speaker 6: my walk into the.
- 19:30Speaker 7: Building, of course.
- 19:31Speaker 6: So yeah. So, but I have always found that if
- 19:35Speaker 6: you want people to really take you seriously, you can't
- 19:39Speaker 6: be using that language. So I am I'm guilty of
- 19:44Speaker 6: using that language, and I'm mostly it's horse and around.
- 19:46Speaker 6: But we're where guys are young enough while we're working
- 19:49Speaker 6: and whatever, and and it's all. But when it's time
- 19:51Speaker 6: to get serious.
- 19:52Speaker 2: You shut that off exactly.
- 19:54Speaker 6: And and you and you and that, and that's kind
- 19:56Speaker 6: of also if people know you, they realize, well, he's
- 19:59Speaker 6: he's being serious.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Right, because you know that guy.
- 20:02Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy normally will sprinkle you know,
- 20:05Speaker 4: when we're just yucking it up in a room, he'll
- 20:07Speaker 4: normally sprinkle this, you know, some f bombs in there,
- 20:09Speaker 4: some other expert is in there in his normal day
- 20:11Speaker 4: to day conversation.
- 20:12Speaker 2: That's fine.
- 20:12Speaker 4: Oh my god, he must be really serious because he's
- 20:15Speaker 4: got a straight face on now and he's not cursing.
- 20:18Speaker 6: So good point, right, whatever, whatever it takes, you got
- 20:23Speaker 6: to figure out how to get people's attention. But you
- 20:25Speaker 6: can't go too far because then people stop taking you seriously,
- 20:29Speaker 6: and we don't want that.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Plus it negates the respect.
- 20:33Speaker 4: I think that some of these are the office at
- 20:35Speaker 4: least deserves the office of Senate, a representative, a president.
- 20:40Speaker 4: I mean, there's a certain air of distinguished nature that
- 20:43Speaker 4: goes along with it, at least it should, and I
- 20:45Speaker 4: think you negate that that's really kind of where my
- 20:48Speaker 4: eyre comes from, you know, hearing that yesterday from Moreno
- 20:51Speaker 4: and also the prior day from Trump, and that's not
- 20:53Speaker 4: the first time for Trump, I know, but they just
- 20:55Speaker 4: were on the heels of each other. And I would
- 20:56Speaker 4: expect better from my side of the political ledger, that's all.
- 20:59Speaker 6: And you you know, these we were all human beings.
- 21:03Speaker 6: These are dudes. You know, these are guys, and so
- 21:05Speaker 6: you know, we do want we do want to know
- 21:07Speaker 6: that the people that represent us, and I say that
- 21:11Speaker 6: with air quotes, uh, are are just like us and
- 21:14Speaker 6: a lot of respects, we're all the same. But there
- 21:16Speaker 6: then again, you have the setting. You're in the Senate,
- 21:19Speaker 6: you're in a you're in an official hearing. So yeah,
- 21:23Speaker 6: that's that's that's inappropriate as far as I'm concerned, Thank you.
- 21:26Speaker 6: I don't have a problem if a man is going
- 21:28Speaker 6: to go around and and drop the F bomb every
- 21:30Speaker 6: now and then, but I need to know that that
- 21:32Speaker 6: guy is willing to watch his mouth when he's especially
- 21:36Speaker 6: in certain settings around a certain company. You know, stuff
- 21:39Speaker 6: like that. You know, when we're talking like that and
- 21:41Speaker 6: your mom, you know, do you kiss your mom with
- 21:43Speaker 6: that mouth? That type of thing. Come on, but really,
- 21:47Speaker 6: let's get serious your guy, so you know, so anyway,
- 21:50Speaker 6: have a great day, don't vote Democrats.
- 21:52Speaker 4: Appreciate the support too as well. Yes I'm guilty of
- 21:56Speaker 4: it as well, but again the sense of awareeness of
- 22:00Speaker 4: the forum you're in, and you're right, you don't do
- 22:02Speaker 4: that kind of thing around mom. Dad certainly made sure
- 22:06Speaker 4: of that growing up. Anyway, the bipartisanship. I wanted to
- 22:09Speaker 4: mention this since it is a local story, since I
- 22:11Speaker 4: public schools. They're asking for a point seventy five are
- 22:13Speaker 4: earned income tax right NET says seven hundred and fifty
- 22:17Speaker 4: bucks for someone who earns one hundred thousand dollars. But
- 22:20Speaker 4: if you only make let's say the averaged earned income
- 22:24Speaker 4: for those living within the Sinceni Public School district that's
- 22:27Speaker 4: fifty four thousan five hundred, you will still be paying
- 22:30Speaker 4: four hundred and eight dollars annually fifteen dollars to seventy
- 22:33Speaker 4: two cents per paycheck. And these trying times, I guess
- 22:37Speaker 4: some folks are thinking it's a bad idea. Josh Kirth
- 22:39Speaker 4: one of them. But Republican Party chairman, you might expect
- 22:42Speaker 4: him to come out swinging against it. He called the
- 22:46Speaker 4: school boards levy vote offensive in a statement is shared
- 22:50Speaker 4: the other day. The board did vote five to two
- 22:51Speaker 4: to put it on the ballot. The separate meeting on
- 22:54Speaker 4: July twenty eighth, the executive Committee the Hamilton County Democratic
- 22:57Speaker 4: Party passed or resolution urging the school to reconsider it
- 23:03Speaker 4: and not put it on the ballot. What and it's
- 23:08Speaker 4: noted thank you to Grace Tucker and Aaron Glenner at
- 23:11Speaker 4: the Inquirer. All seven of the school board members are Democrats.
- 23:14Speaker 4: Really shocking no one. But it is supposed to be,
- 23:17Speaker 4: you know, a non partisan role there on the school
- 23:19Speaker 4: board anyway. So John jasker Is called the response a
- 23:23Speaker 4: proposal response, irresponsible, reckless. Hemlon Kunty Republican Party stands ready
- 23:26Speaker 4: to oppose the levee in November, shocking no one then,
- 23:29Speaker 4: but then pivoting over to the Democratic Party's executive committee
- 23:32Speaker 4: voted fifty to twenty three asking the board to rethink
- 23:36Speaker 4: the levee. Isn't it a binding resolution? Their party chair
- 23:41Speaker 4: Alex Lenzer, speaking with the Inquirer, noted that the reconsideration
- 23:47Speaker 4: vote was not an official endorsement position from the Democrats.
- 23:51Speaker 4: In other words, they're not against the levee. They're just
- 23:53Speaker 4: asking the board to rethink it, maybe consider going a
- 23:55Speaker 4: different route, or maybe kicking it off to some other time.
- 23:57Speaker 4: But we're not dealing with the inflationary pressures we're facing
- 24:00Speaker 4: right now. So in so far as Alex Lindsay, the
- 24:04Speaker 4: Democratic Party's Executive committee chairman, said, our membership's not in
- 24:06Speaker 4: a position to support the tax, but everybody has an
- 24:09Speaker 4: appreciation of the position the school board is in. Bill
- 24:13Speaker 4: is coming due for all the bad policy making decisions
- 24:16Speaker 4: in Columbus. Ah kicking the blame up to the cat
- 24:19Speaker 4: herding going on in Columbus on a twenty four to
- 24:21Speaker 4: seven basis. But if you've got a shrinking enrollment, fewer students,
- 24:27Speaker 4: why is that you need so much more money. They
- 24:29Speaker 4: already got done laying off one hundred or so folks
- 24:31Speaker 4: recently to deal with the fifty eight point six million
- 24:34Speaker 4: dollar deficit. And here's something else to consider. Fifty eight
- 24:36Speaker 4: point six million dollar deficit. That's a problem. We had
- 24:39Speaker 4: to cut over one hundred personnel to deal with this
- 24:41Speaker 4: fifty eight point six million deficit. Why in the hell
- 24:44Speaker 4: are they asking for an earned income tax libty that's
- 24:46Speaker 4: going to generate them seventy four million dollars annually. It
- 24:52Speaker 4: seems to me they could have asked for a smaller
- 24:53Speaker 4: amount just to close the gap in this deficit. They
- 24:56Speaker 4: have just something else to ponder. But look, he's a
- 25:00Speaker 4: democratic executive committee. Appears to think it's a bad thing
- 25:03Speaker 4: to do.
- 25:05Speaker 2: As do well.
- 25:06Speaker 4: At least the Republican Party chairman got Josh kurt So,
- 25:09Speaker 4: welcome to at least a measure of bipartisanship here in
- 25:11Speaker 4: the Greater SINCINNTI area. Five thirty seven right now, stupid
- 25:14Speaker 4: coming up? Don't go what fifty five KARC the talk station.
- 25:25Speaker 4: It is five forty what very happy Friday, eighth to you.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Lov When these these.
- 25:34Speaker 4: Perverts get busted towards talking about people who would engage
- 25:39Speaker 4: in viewing child sexual abuse materials and guess what we
- 25:43Speaker 4: have another arrest. We go to Seminole County, Florida. Winter
- 25:45Speaker 4: park guy got arrested after investigators found child sexual abuse
- 25:48Speaker 4: materials and videos depicting sexual activity involving animals on his phone.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Colin leem Morati now facing twenty counts of possession child
- 26:04Speaker 4: porn for counts possession images or videos of sexual activity
- 26:07Speaker 4: with animals. This I guess the crime as well.
- 26:09Speaker 7: Court.
- 26:09Speaker 4: That's according to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office. Investigati invation
- 26:12Speaker 4: began March sixth when the Sheriff's office received a cyber
- 26:16Speaker 4: tip line report from the National Center for Missing and
- 26:20Speaker 4: Exploited Children. Now that's the summoned substance of the article.
- 26:23Speaker 4: But here you go, you do realize maybe you don't.
- 26:27Speaker 4: Certainly Colin leaving Liam Morady didn't that they tag child
- 26:35Speaker 4: sexual abuse material. They being the federal government of those
- 26:38Speaker 4: involved with prosecuting and farroning out and finding these perverts.
- 26:42Speaker 4: So go ahead download it and wait for the knock
- 26:46Speaker 4: on your door. So enjoy your time in prison there, Colin, Well,
- 26:53Speaker 4: he is alleged.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Anyway, what else have we got?
- 26:56Speaker 4: Got a twenty five year old woman who started a
- 26:58Speaker 4: fire earlier this month inside a taw church while family
- 27:02Speaker 4: members were setting up for this woman's wedding ceremony the
- 27:05Speaker 4: following day church of Jesus Christ Latter day Saints in
- 27:09Speaker 4: a Salt Lake City suburb. The fire along went off.
- 27:12Speaker 4: Relatives were able to put out the fire with the
- 27:14Speaker 4: fire extingers for as well as water from some of
- 27:16Speaker 4: the wedding decorations. Six people were in the church when
- 27:19Speaker 4: the fire was lit, damages one hundred and eight thousand dollars.
- 27:23Speaker 4: They say it appeared to be started it beneath the
- 27:25Speaker 4: chairs stacked along a wall in the church's relief society
- 27:30Speaker 4: room on a safe space room. I don't know anyway,
- 27:33Speaker 4: They say under the chairs appeared to be items that
- 27:35Speaker 4: were out of the ordinary, including what appeared to be
- 27:37Speaker 4: a tampon with the applicator on the floor. Cording to
- 27:39Speaker 4: the Copp report, probe resulted in an arrest of Lenita
- 27:43Speaker 4: Moreno no relation to Bernie I'm assuming, for aggravated arson,
- 27:47Speaker 4: theft and in providing false information police. She allegedly stole
- 27:50Speaker 4: two cigarette lighters from an ACE hardware store a few
- 27:53Speaker 4: hours prior to the fire. RNA's fiance, speaking with the police,
- 27:56Speaker 4: said that he and Moreno had been in that release
- 27:58Speaker 4: society room just prior to the fire alarm going off.
- 28:01Speaker 4: When Moreno reportedly admitted to stealing from Ace, she did
- 28:05Speaker 4: not want to reveal what she had stolen. Curious anyway,
- 28:09Speaker 4: Mareno found to be continually deceptive corner to the report
- 28:12Speaker 4: and took drastic steps to hide her lies. She did not,
- 28:17Speaker 4: And this is the weird part about the story. The
- 28:19Speaker 4: suggestion is that the reason she lit the church on
- 28:23Speaker 4: fire she didn't obtain a license for her own wedding
- 28:28Speaker 4: that was again taking place the next day, but liede
- 28:32Speaker 4: stating that she had. I don't know if that means
- 28:35Speaker 4: she didn't want to get married or just dropped the ball,
- 28:37Speaker 4: but in any event, apparently the wedding wasn't going to go,
- 28:39Speaker 4: so she thought it was a good idea to try
- 28:41Speaker 4: to light the church on fire.
- 28:43Speaker 2: Idiots doing idiot things because.
- 28:45Speaker 4: There idiots and a Joseph being held in the Davis
- 28:47Speaker 4: County Jail. Court denied her bail, ruling that there was
- 28:52Speaker 4: clear and convincing evidence that she would be she would
- 28:55Speaker 4: constitute a substantial danger to any other individual or the community,
- 28:59Speaker 4: or is likely to flee jurisdiction of the court if
- 29:02Speaker 4: released on bail. Now you think to make you scratch
- 29:05Speaker 4: your head over that one, William, she was getting married
- 29:06Speaker 4: there to a guy.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Is that well?
- 29:08Speaker 4: Apparently she's from Wyoming, and I guess they figured since
- 29:12Speaker 4: she wasn't actually going to tie the knot, maybe she
- 29:14Speaker 4: got cold feet, which is the headline suggestion that she
- 29:17Speaker 4: would take off and flee the jurisdiction and go back
- 29:19Speaker 4: to Wyoming. Either way, no bail. You never see that
- 29:25Speaker 4: in Hamilton County. Would you five forty five aty five
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- 29:42Speaker 4: going under the knife?
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- 30:00Speaker 4: Always remember, never forget it's fifty five KRC dot iHeart
- 30:03Speaker 4: dot com. Get your podcasts when you can't listen live
- 30:06Speaker 4: Jack out of it, always brilliant. He was on yesterday,
- 30:08Speaker 4: among other podcasts you can find right there. So what
- 30:11Speaker 4: we got here we go to Iowa got a one
- 30:14Speaker 4: whose driver's license is suspended, already suspended because she was
- 30:17Speaker 4: convicted for driving her SUV while under the influence of
- 30:20Speaker 4: methanthetamine back in court for operating a motor vehicle while impaired.
- 30:28Speaker 4: Michelle Hudson, thirty six, not behind the wheel of for
- 30:32Speaker 4: SUV but an Orange Huskuavarna riding mower, arrested Friday night
- 30:39Speaker 4: after a witnesses called police and said the defendant appeared
- 30:42Speaker 4: to be intoxicated riding the mower in the parking lot
- 30:45Speaker 4: of a Casey's convenience store in Tiffin, which is outside
- 30:49Speaker 4: of Iowa City. Hudson arrested about a mile from her residence.
- 30:53Speaker 4: Cording to the criminal complaint, she performed poorly on a
- 30:58Speaker 4: series of field sobriety tests and showed measurable signs of
- 31:03Speaker 4: impairment like slurred speech, poor balanced bloodshot, watery eyes. Breath
- 31:07Speaker 4: test did register under the legal limit. Hudson was believed
- 31:12Speaker 4: to be on a drug that's in the report. She
- 31:15Speaker 4: refused you kidding. She refused to provide a year in
- 31:19Speaker 4: Samuel was arrested for operating under the influence and driving
- 31:22Speaker 4: wild barred. Remember she was already under suspension, both considered
- 31:25Speaker 4: aggravated misdemeanors. Interestingly enough, being held without bond in the
- 31:30Speaker 4: county jail in advance of her court appearance back in July,
- 31:34Speaker 4: twenty two, she was convicted of operating under the influence
- 31:36Speaker 4: her Chevy Trailblazer. The aforementioned suv defended admitted to using
- 31:40Speaker 4: meth n fetamine two days prior. According to the police report,
- 31:44Speaker 4: in that incident, she was impaired from a central nervous
- 31:47Speaker 4: system stimulant, according to a drug recovery expert involved in
- 31:53Speaker 4: that case. Anyway, her rap sheet includes convictions for theft,
- 31:55Speaker 4: possession of drug paraphernalia, criminal mischief, voting or violating rather
- 31:59Speaker 4: a PARTEI order, meth possession.
- 32:01Speaker 2: And assault.
- 32:04Speaker 7: The Aricocrat.
- 32:08Speaker 4: Police in Texas say a man and a woman now
- 32:10Speaker 4: facing charges of public lewdness because they had sex in
- 32:14Speaker 4: a swimming pool in front of children.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? No answer to that question,
- 32:19Speaker 2: I guess they couldn't pop. Oh, we can't wait.
- 32:23Speaker 4: Waco, Texas court documents reflect that seventy five year old
- 32:29Speaker 4: Douglas Faith and thirty two year old Emil Parma have
- 32:33Speaker 4: been charged. Interesting, well they call that a what a
- 32:39Speaker 4: spring fall romance? Joe seventy five and thirty two. Anyway,
- 32:45Speaker 4: according the affidavit's way, officers were dispatched Sunday, Central Texas
- 32:49Speaker 4: Marketplace apartment complex because of reports of an indecent exposure
- 32:54Speaker 4: multiple witness had. Witnesses had called nine to one one
- 32:56Speaker 4: after their children were uncomfortable because Parma and Faith were
- 33:00Speaker 4: engaging in sexual intercourse in the pool. Officers interviewed more
- 33:04Speaker 4: than eight people. They all described Parma and Faith were
- 33:07Speaker 4: in the back corner of the pool where Parma was
- 33:10Speaker 4: allegedly on top of Faith making loud sexual moans.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Question by police, Faith.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Admitted to that, but say that they really were not
- 33:22Speaker 4: actually having intercourse. Why well, according to what Faith said,
- 33:32Speaker 4: he has a penile implant.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Whatever. THANKI william I.
- 33:40Speaker 4: Thought the purpose of those were so you could anyway
- 33:42Speaker 4: done pondo that if you will further. Faith further insinuated
- 33:46Speaker 4: they were not even having sexual intercourse, but there was
- 33:49Speaker 4: sexual contact anyway, it's his problem now. Upon search and rast,
- 33:54Speaker 4: Faith had two marijuana joints, also charged with possession. I
- 33:57Speaker 4: guess it's not legal there. Parma released on a fifth
- 34:00Speaker 4: teen hundred dollar bond, Faith on a three thousand dollars bond.
- 34:02Speaker 4: I guess they didn't represent a flight risk and don't
- 34:05Speaker 4: do this. Liberty Mitchell, twenty one years old, who killed
- 34:09Speaker 4: two people in a high speed crash after recording herself
- 34:15Speaker 4: driving recklessly. She's had her prison sentence increase, now by Moron,
- 34:19Speaker 4: more than two years after government officials in England argued
- 34:22Speaker 4: that the original punishment was too lenient, had her sentence
- 34:27Speaker 4: increased from six years and eight months to nine years
- 34:30Speaker 4: and three months. Course of the reporting, she was driving
- 34:33Speaker 4: toward some city when she attempted to overtake three vehicles
- 34:37Speaker 4: on the wrong side of the road at nearly one
- 34:39Speaker 4: hundred miles per hour in a sixty colliding with the taxi,
- 34:43Speaker 4: triggering a multi vehicle crash. Taxi driver died of the scene,
- 34:48Speaker 4: passenger at a history teater and teacher in the car
- 34:50Speaker 4: later died in the hospital. Six other people injured, including
- 34:53Speaker 4: three who suffered serious injuries. Investigators later found videos on
- 34:57Speaker 4: her social media account showing her recording herself while driving dangerously,
- 35:01Speaker 4: one showing her going one hundred miles per hour, another
- 35:05Speaker 4: showing her crossing into oncoming traffic. Elsa said she was
- 35:08Speaker 4: driving between cleaning jobs, but her insurance policy does not
- 35:12Speaker 4: cover business use. Pleaded guilty to two counts of causing
- 35:15Speaker 4: death by dangerous driving, two counts of causing death while uninsured,
- 35:19Speaker 4: three counts of causing serious injury by driving dangerously. Addition
- 35:23Speaker 4: to the prison sentence, disqualified from driving for eight years
- 35:26Speaker 4: and four months and must pass an extended driving test
- 35:30Speaker 4: before her license can be restored.
- 35:32Speaker 2: There you go, it is right. Why social media? That's
- 35:36Speaker 2: why I wonder why.
- 35:39Speaker 4: People do extraordinarily stupid things. Going back to why do
- 35:44Speaker 4: politicians start dropping F bombs all the time? Because it
- 35:48Speaker 4: generates clicks? And isn't that the only important thing in
- 35:52Speaker 4: the world? Jesus five, coming about five fifty seven, be
- 35:56Speaker 4: right back the.
- 35:58Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app for the apt N at six or sixty
- 36:04Speaker 2: fifty you.
- 36:05Speaker 4: I have Garaseee the talk station, Ryan Thomas trying here,
- 36:07Speaker 4: glad to be Oh, look, Carl's on the phone. Carl,
- 36:10Speaker 4: get your calling just a second. I always enjoy hearing
- 36:13Speaker 4: for the listeners five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty,
- 36:15Speaker 4: five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three talk pound
- 36:17Speaker 4: five fifty on your AT and T phone, especially on
- 36:19Speaker 4: the heels of the Fauci show yesterday. Excuse me what
- 36:22Speaker 4: a circus that was. Although the information got out, that's
- 36:24Speaker 4: the critical thing on all this. I mean what the
- 36:27Speaker 4: Republicans were asking Fauci, which of course he asserted his
- 36:30Speaker 4: fifth Moment right to be free of the self incrimination.
- 36:32Speaker 4: To refuse to answer literally anything. You can't open Pandora's
- 36:35Speaker 4: box to start answering any questions, then you give up
- 36:38Speaker 4: your right. So his attorney's instructed and properly do not
- 36:40Speaker 4: answer any question, like don't even answer what color of
- 36:43Speaker 4: the carpet is. But they brought the goods, didn't they
- 36:48Speaker 4: The documents, the statements from doctor Fauci himself about all
- 36:52Speaker 4: the lying he did to us and the self interest.
- 36:54Speaker 4: This guy was awful and he broke the law, and
- 36:58Speaker 4: numerous illustrations of him admittedly breaking the law. It's you know,
- 37:03Speaker 4: many refer to his personal diary as just the documentation
- 37:06Speaker 4: of all of his his his lying to Congress for
- 37:11Speaker 4: which he could have been held criminally liable, criminally liable
- 37:13Speaker 4: absent the Biden pardon. So what of the Biden pardon.
- 37:17Speaker 4: He's not supposed to be able to sert his Fifth
- 37:18Speaker 4: Amendment right against self incrimination when there's no threat of incrimination.
- 37:21Speaker 4: That's the point of it. There's case law on that.
- 37:23Speaker 4: He was reminded of that yesterday. One of the senators
- 37:26Speaker 4: who jokingly referred to his lawyers squirming around behind the scenes,
- 37:30Speaker 4: like you know, they know it, so it's not over.
- 37:34Speaker 4: But the information that came out and it's undeniable. Then
- 37:37Speaker 4: and the Democrats, when they had their chance, try to
- 37:40Speaker 4: defend this guy and talk about what a sham this
- 37:42Speaker 4: whole thing was. Really a man that got this much power,
- 37:47Speaker 4: was the default, the the god of Covid. He walked
- 37:51Speaker 4: on water, he spoke no wrong, he convinced the entire
- 37:54Speaker 4: word is the go to guy, lie over and over
- 37:58Speaker 4: and over again. And I don't care if you think
- 38:00Speaker 4: this is some sort of you know, Vendetta ran Paul's
- 38:03Speaker 4: God against Anthony Fauci. It's a great illustration of why
- 38:07Speaker 4: we shouldn't put so much damn trust in our elected officials.
- 38:11Speaker 4: And they're all lamenting at One of the Democrats trying
- 38:13Speaker 4: to defend Fauci, was talking about how the preceding itself
- 38:17Speaker 4: undermines government and that might cause people out of the
- 38:20Speaker 4: world who otherwise might pursue research as a career won't
- 38:24Speaker 4: do it because they'd be afraid that they would be
- 38:27Speaker 4: held to such levels of scrutiny attack by politicians down
- 38:31Speaker 4: the road. Are you blanking kidding me?
- 38:34Speaker 3: Oh?
- 38:34Speaker 4: Look, Thomas she's blanking instead of dropping an F bomb.
- 38:38Speaker 4: Go back to the last hour if you want to
- 38:40Speaker 4: know where that comment came from. Anyway, I think the
- 38:45Speaker 4: importance of this is exactly that. Not the Democrats point,
- 38:49Speaker 4: but they show the rest of the world, don't be
- 38:51Speaker 4: so damn gullible, demand some accountability. The senator from Florida
- 38:57Speaker 4: I made a great point about this. We convened a
- 39:00Speaker 4: grand jury. They did in Florida during the height of
- 39:03Speaker 4: this COVID thing. When Fauci's telling her they to lock
- 39:05Speaker 4: the world down and tell your kids they can't go
- 39:07Speaker 4: to school.
- 39:08Speaker 2: What did they do?
- 39:09Speaker 4: They did their own independent analysis. Oh you mean we
- 39:12Speaker 4: don't have to take doctor Fauci for his word. No,
- 39:15Speaker 4: nobody did. And isn't it interesting that the one of
- 39:19Speaker 4: the more horrific components of all this, and we were
- 39:21Speaker 4: reminded of so much of the horror yesterday with all
- 39:23Speaker 4: this well documented information that Fauci should have had to
- 39:27Speaker 4: answer questions about the horrors that were going on. Florida
- 39:38Speaker 4: convenes a grand jury and they look into it themselves. Remember,
- 39:42Speaker 4: because you the horror of all this and social media,
- 39:45Speaker 4: you were docks. Your comments were removed, you mentioned ivermectin.
- 39:49Speaker 4: You got thrown out of town, Tartan feathered and removed
- 39:52Speaker 4: from your own community metaphorically speaking, people's careers were ruined
- 39:58Speaker 4: because they spoke out of it. They offered it a
- 40:00Speaker 4: alternative theory to what doctor Fauci said. Wait a minute,
- 40:04Speaker 4: you can't contradict the messiah.
- 40:08Speaker 2: What if Florida knew?
- 40:09Speaker 4: They convened the grand jury a whole bunch of people,
- 40:11Speaker 4: and she pointed out the senator did all walks of life,
- 40:14Speaker 4: people have all offered racist created deathness to these political backgrounds,
- 40:17Speaker 4: and they reviewed these scientific evidence.
- 40:20Speaker 2: They went over it.
- 40:21Speaker 4: All the evidence was out there, and what do they
- 40:23Speaker 4: conclude that these lockdowns were stupid, nonsensical, pointless and didn't
- 40:27Speaker 4: do anything. Oh my god, you mean there was a
- 40:30Speaker 4: different theory of alving in the world. That's how Florida
- 40:32Speaker 4: remained open. And see, I had completely forgotten about that.
- 40:37Speaker 4: And boy, didn't they get ridiculed. They're threatening the lives
- 40:42Speaker 4: of everybody. No, turns out they had it right. So
- 40:48Speaker 4: that's an important part of what yesterday was all about,
- 40:51Speaker 4: isn't it Greater accountability? I mean, doctor Fauci had all.
- 40:56Speaker 2: He was surrounded by scientists who all collectively with the
- 40:58Speaker 2: exception to two, conclude it was a luhan in pseudo
- 41:01Speaker 2: viology manufactured virus that got leaked out.
- 41:04Speaker 1: What did he do?
- 41:04Speaker 4: He hired his own team of scientists, came up with
- 41:06Speaker 4: a completely different opinion piece, came out and said, no,
- 41:08Speaker 4: it came from a wet market. Wise, there's no accountability
- 41:13Speaker 4: built into what fouch she was doing at the time.
- 41:15Speaker 4: Maybe we should ask ourselves, why not should he give
- 41:19Speaker 4: one singular human being the ability.
- 41:21Speaker 2: The authority to have that much power to let one
- 41:30Speaker 2: singular opinion and we find out it's all been biased.
- 41:33Speaker 2: It's all around money. He's out there, you know, having
- 41:35Speaker 2: his own staff help him get grant awards or actually
- 41:40Speaker 2: monetary awards.
- 41:41Speaker 4: They caught him cash prizes. Yeah, you want a whole
- 41:44Speaker 4: bunch of them. No, you can't use government employees to
- 41:47Speaker 4: go out well on the job while they're being paid
- 41:50Speaker 4: to do whatever job they were doing, to help you
- 41:53Speaker 4: be awarded a prize. He did that over and over
- 41:57Speaker 4: and over again. It's all well documented. They brought the
- 41:59Speaker 4: name up. They showed the emails him directing these employees
- 42:03Speaker 4: to go talk to so and so about you know,
- 42:05Speaker 4: talking his name up so he will be awarded the
- 42:07Speaker 4: cash prize for any given one of these awards that
- 42:10Speaker 4: he won. There's more than a million dollars. That's illegal
- 42:15Speaker 4: under federal law. They had the citation that what he violated.
- 42:18Speaker 4: Could he have been prosecuted for that not after the pardon,
- 42:22Speaker 4: but boy, we found out about it. One of many
- 42:27Speaker 4: little items that this guy was involved with behind the
- 42:29Speaker 4: scenes that you know, he's just a vile person. In
- 42:34Speaker 4: the final analysis, he must have transformed over time. And
- 42:37Speaker 4: many people are saying this. You know, the more famous
- 42:39Speaker 4: he got, the more he became the default messiah of COVID,
- 42:43Speaker 4: the more he became the only source of information for COVID.
- 42:46Speaker 4: Why well, the media turned him into that. And the
- 42:48Speaker 4: more the media turned to him, and the more he
- 42:50Speaker 4: perpetuated and demanded that he be the default guy. The
- 42:54Speaker 4: more he became the default guy, the bigger his head got.
- 43:00Speaker 2: Me me, me, neemy.
- 43:01Speaker 4: He turned into a malignant narcissist. If he wasn't already one,
- 43:04Speaker 4: if the seeds weren't there to become one, boy did
- 43:06Speaker 4: he didn't. He grew into the biggest one on the planet.
- 43:10Speaker 4: But just one piece of damning information after another, and
- 43:14Speaker 4: we've got to sit there and listen to him. You know,
- 43:15Speaker 4: on the advice of Council, I respectively refuse to answer
- 43:18Speaker 4: the question on the grounds of the Fifth Amendment of
- 43:20Speaker 4: the United States Constitution. Okay, buddy, well you know there'll
- 43:23Speaker 4: be a contempt hearing, and don't hold your breath on that.
- 43:29Speaker 4: Last time they the Senate successfully held somebody in contempt
- 43:32Speaker 4: was nineteen seventy one. Remember you got the sixty vote
- 43:36Speaker 4: philibuster breaker you need, So contempt of Congress goes before
- 43:43Speaker 4: the Senate takes a simple majority to hold someone in contempt,
- 43:46Speaker 4: but such a resolution must clear one filibuster, requiring sixty votes.
- 43:51Speaker 4: So you know, the Democrats probably are going to do
- 43:53Speaker 4: what the Democrats do. Anything the Republicans want to do,
- 43:55Speaker 4: they're going to say no to. Except for John Fetterman,
- 43:59Speaker 4: who didn't like the other Democrats take the time to
- 44:01Speaker 4: try to defend this defenseless guy, Anthony Fauci. He made
- 44:07Speaker 4: a great point in Fetterman, I mean, beauty, who thought
- 44:10Speaker 4: this guy would turn out to be the genius of
- 44:11Speaker 4: the Democrat Party. You know what we should learn from this,
- 44:15Speaker 4: We shouldn't politicize a virus. How come it was going
- 44:19Speaker 4: back to everybody thinks Fauci walks on water, and you
- 44:21Speaker 4: cannot contradict what Fauci says. That's the point Fetterman made.
- 44:25Speaker 4: Maybe we should have maybe he should have entertained some
- 44:27Speaker 4: of these ideas, like maybe ivermectin isn't just for horseworms.
- 44:35Speaker 4: And remember when pharmacies refuse to fill ivermectin prescriptions, regardless
- 44:39Speaker 4: of maybe you had horseworms, they wouldn't fill it. Another
- 44:46Speaker 4: nefarious reality of what came out of COVID. Our rights
- 44:50Speaker 4: were eliminated, rights of freedom of assembly, freedom of worship,
- 44:56Speaker 4: freedom of speech, even if you go back to being
- 44:59Speaker 4: docs and having your thos removed from social media. It
- 45:06Speaker 4: was a horrific time and it was on full display
- 45:08Speaker 4: yesterday in concentrated form over a few hours. No, Fauci
- 45:12Speaker 4: didn't answer any questions, but we were given a hell
- 45:14Speaker 4: of a reminder about what this man did to us,
- 45:16Speaker 4: what our politicians did to us, and what we like
- 45:20Speaker 4: sheeple did and accepted, got in line, did what we
- 45:24Speaker 4: were told, at least for the most part, except for
- 45:25Speaker 4: those lone voices out there, those dissenters out there that
- 45:28Speaker 4: refused to be told what to do and stood up
- 45:31Speaker 4: against this suffered the consequences mightily, many of them. Another
- 45:39Speaker 4: horror that came out of this. So yeah, it's good
- 45:43Speaker 4: they did it to you Democrats who think this is
- 45:45Speaker 4: all politicized. This is a lesson we need to talk
- 45:47Speaker 4: about regularly. This is a rejection of the whole you know,
- 45:50Speaker 4: Woodrow Wilson idea that government knows best and we just
- 45:54Speaker 4: need to put experts into place.
- 45:56Speaker 1: You know what.
- 45:57Speaker 2: That presupposes that your experts aren't subject to well being
- 46:00Speaker 2: malignant narcissists willing to use their position in roles to
- 46:03Speaker 2: advance their own personal agenda versus what they're there for,
- 46:06Speaker 2: which is to represent the constituents and the residents in
- 46:08Speaker 2: the United States of America.
- 46:10Speaker 7: Right.
- 46:11Speaker 4: Experts can be evil. Experts can be biased. Experts can hold,
- 46:16Speaker 4: you know, political positions or positions that are contrary to science.
- 46:21Speaker 4: In this particular case, reasons perhaps unknown, Some reasons are
- 46:27Speaker 4: percolating out. I thought of, Maureen, if you're out there listening,
- 46:32Speaker 4: I got two callers on let them get you guys.
- 46:34Speaker 4: This a second amount of time in this segment, but
- 46:35Speaker 4: I gotta chime in real quickly on this. If you
- 46:37Speaker 4: read Wayne Roots article, and I got some problems with
- 46:39Speaker 4: his theory. He suggests that, you know what, this whole
- 46:42Speaker 4: pardon thing had nothing to do with Fauci. It had
- 46:44Speaker 4: everything to do with the fact that he believes this
- 46:47Speaker 4: was intentional. The release of COVID was intentional for the
- 46:49Speaker 4: purpose of creating these lockdowns, generating in a you know,
- 46:52Speaker 4: is this lockdown economy benefiting the pharmaceutical companies. But ultimately
- 46:57Speaker 4: he claims it was in order to steal the twenty
- 46:59Speaker 4: twenty election. Remember when we couldn't go vote, you couldn't
- 47:04Speaker 4: go me. Well, you know there's a nefarious component floating
- 47:08Speaker 4: around in there when they you know, postpone otherwise change
- 47:11Speaker 4: the election rules because well COVID. That's why we do
- 47:15Speaker 4: not have to change the law on the books. Remember
- 47:17Speaker 4: this unconstitutional changes. No legislation was passed to change election day.
- 47:22Speaker 4: No election was passed, no vote was cast to change
- 47:26Speaker 4: maybe photo ID of voter ID requirements. At the time,
- 47:28Speaker 4: it just magically happened. Why, well, COVID. That's why we
- 47:33Speaker 4: can play fast and loose with everything, including laws on
- 47:36Speaker 4: the books. Well, because COVID, and because doctor Fauci said
- 47:39Speaker 4: it was bad. Oh my god, two and a half
- 47:41Speaker 4: times the mortality rate of the flu or whatever. No,
- 47:44Speaker 4: actually he lied about that too. Six seventeen fifty five
- 47:47Speaker 4: care City Talk station. I got Carl, I got Jay,
- 47:50Speaker 4: I got both of you guys right right to the phones.
- 47:52Speaker 4: It's gonna start with Jay. Carl, hang on your next Jay,
- 47:54Speaker 4: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the show.
- 47:58Speaker 7: Hey.
- 47:58Speaker 3: One of the most disappointing about the whole Fauci era
- 48:02Speaker 3: in history is that he worked for Donald Trump, or
- 48:05Speaker 3: Donald Trump was.
- 48:06Speaker 8: His boss's boss for over a year.
- 48:09Speaker 3: And I remember the headlines when it was Trump was
- 48:12Speaker 3: thinking about fire him, that it came out that Trump
- 48:16Speaker 3: decided or his handlers, you know, I'll pen it on
- 48:18Speaker 3: Trump buckstops with him that he'd like.
- 48:21Speaker 9: To fire Fauci, that it would be just too political.
- 48:24Speaker 3: And I thought, what a shame that here we've got
- 48:27Speaker 3: history's largest mass murderer. We have a Republican administration, Fauci's
- 48:33Speaker 3: trying to undermine Trump's re election, and the Republican Party.
- 48:37Speaker 7: As usual doesn't have the balls to do the.
- 48:40Speaker 3: Right thing and is worried about politics. And there's your
- 48:44Speaker 3: Republican Party again on display of we had our guy,
- 48:48Speaker 3: he was in control. We had all three branches of government,
- 48:51Speaker 3: and Fauci continued to operate and wide open for a year.
- 48:56Speaker 3: It's unbelievable when you think about it. I haven't heard
- 48:59Speaker 3: anybody bring that. I voted for Trump three times. I
- 49:03Speaker 3: don't like everything he does. I like some of the
- 49:05Speaker 3: things he does well, but that one, that one is unforgivable.
- 49:08Speaker 3: That you allow that to go on for the sake
- 49:10Speaker 3: of it would look too politically bad.
- 49:12Speaker 8: For you to have fired Fauci.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Well, don't presume.
- 49:15Speaker 4: And I'm not quite sure what behind the scenes they
- 49:17Speaker 4: were aware of by way of information to what Fauci
- 49:19Speaker 4: was doing, contrary to what he was saying out loud.
- 49:20Speaker 4: Nobody had his diary on full display, at least an
- 49:23Speaker 4: elected capacity that I'm aware of. These are all recent
- 49:25Speaker 4: revelations because they did an analysis of what was going on,
- 49:29Speaker 4: and they pulled all the documents and found out about
- 49:31Speaker 4: all these egregious, sometimes illegal conduct that Fauci was engaged in.
- 49:35Speaker 4: So if they knew at the time and said, no,
- 49:38Speaker 4: we can't fire him because of politics. Everybody in the
- 49:41Speaker 4: world thinks he walks on water, it will be dangerous
- 49:44Speaker 4: or a liability, well it would have been the right thing.
- 49:47Speaker 4: If they knew about it. They could have come out
- 49:49Speaker 4: at the time and educated the American public to say
- 49:52Speaker 4: Fauci should not be believed to be the messiah of COVID.
- 49:55Speaker 2: In fact, he has lied to us.
- 49:56Speaker 4: Here's all the reasons why you could have educated the public,
- 49:59Speaker 4: and then it would have been the politically prudent thing.
- 50:01Speaker 2: To fire him. I don't think at the time they
- 50:03Speaker 2: had all this information, that's the.
- 50:05Speaker 3: Problem with Certainly they didn't have the diary, but they
- 50:08Speaker 3: had enough that Trump's you know, the Republicans and conservatives
- 50:13Speaker 3: out here in the world were going crazy would do something.
- 50:16Speaker 3: They certainly didn't have the diary, but in my opinion,
- 50:19Speaker 3: they had plenty.
- 50:20Speaker 4: Well see, and there you go. You could have turned
- 50:22Speaker 4: to Florida and use that as they reliance, you know,
- 50:25Speaker 4: a pivot there. Like listen, we looked at the Florida data,
- 50:27Speaker 4: we looked at what the grand jury looked at, and
- 50:28Speaker 4: we decided that, you know, doctor Fauci is you know,
- 50:31Speaker 4: a looning tune or he will not concede or acknowledge that.
- 50:34Speaker 4: There were other theories or thoughts about how to deal
- 50:37Speaker 4: with COVID, like let's just focus on the comorbid people,
- 50:40Speaker 4: Let's focus on the p the children with cancer who
- 50:43Speaker 4: are the only ones that died from COVID, or the
- 50:45Speaker 4: elderly and seniors with heart problems and things like that.
- 50:48Speaker 4: If you just focus on those two groups and let
- 50:49Speaker 4: the world go about its business, you probably would have
- 50:51Speaker 4: had a lot of fewer deaths. That was a thought,
- 50:53Speaker 4: that was an idea. It was rejected Fauci. No, So
- 50:57Speaker 4: I agree some of it was out there, But.
- 50:59Speaker 2: Was it enough?
- 51:00Speaker 4: Was it enough to overcome this overwhelming belief that Fauci
- 51:03Speaker 4: walked on water that he could help perpetuate and create
- 51:06Speaker 4: that the media helped create. I mean, it's a difficult
- 51:09Speaker 4: challenge because in this world where very few people pay
- 51:12Speaker 4: attention to enough details to draw their own conclusions, you're
- 51:15Speaker 4: going to have to fight a marketing campaign at the
- 51:18Speaker 4: time against Fauci who'd been with the government for decades
- 51:22Speaker 4: under Democrat administrations Republican administrations, who had actually done some
- 51:26Speaker 4: good work, I guess at some point in his life.
- 51:28Speaker 4: But here you are at the time, we got the
- 51:30Speaker 4: world pulling their hair out over COVID and what to
- 51:32Speaker 4: do and what this means to the world. It is
- 51:34Speaker 4: it as deadly, we don't know, blah blah, blah, there's Fauci.
- 51:37Speaker 4: You're gonna fire him under those circumstances. I think I
- 51:40Speaker 4: understand why the answer was no, But it would have
- 51:44Speaker 4: taken a little bit more effort. It would have been
- 51:46Speaker 4: a problem for Trump at the start. It would require
- 51:49Speaker 4: this education campaign, it would require this information to come out.
- 51:52Speaker 4: I'm just not quite sure they were up to the
- 51:54Speaker 4: task at the time. And they probably sat down behind
- 51:56Speaker 4: the scenes and had this whole strategic conversation that we're
- 51:58Speaker 4: kind of boiled down right now well, and arrived at
- 52:01Speaker 4: the conclusion that no, it's not the right time to
- 52:03Speaker 4: get rid of them fery thoughts ideas. I don't know
- 52:06Speaker 4: the decisions were made, but here we are with hindsight
- 52:10Speaker 4: now twenty twenty just realizing what this man did.
- 52:15Speaker 1: To the world.
- 52:17Speaker 4: Carl your next six twenty six right now that you
- 52:19Speaker 4: bout karsee talk station Gregory Leicster, he's.
- 52:22Speaker 1: Talk station.
- 52:24Speaker 2: Sixty one.
- 52:24Speaker 4: If you have kercit talk station five one three seven
- 52:26Speaker 4: fifty five hundred eight out of day two three talk
- 52:29Speaker 4: Congressman Warren Davidson. After the top of darraon News, let's
- 52:31Speaker 4: go to the phones and want to start by thanking
- 52:33Speaker 4: Carl for being so patient, Carl, thanks for calling him
- 52:35Speaker 4: for holding this morning.
- 52:36Speaker 2: Good to hear from you, sir.
- 52:38Speaker 10: Good morning, Brian Say. A couple of days ago, I
- 52:41Speaker 10: received a Facebook advertisement which I think you would be
- 52:45Speaker 10: interested in and your listeners would be interested in it.
- 52:48Speaker 10: There's a law firm out of Columbus that is going
- 52:51Speaker 10: to be holding some mock trials here in August. Another
- 52:55Speaker 10: was the shatting Carey and participants will be hearing an
- 53:00Speaker 10: actual local legal case, and participants will be having to
- 53:04Speaker 10: share their thoughts and give feedback, and participants will need
- 53:10Speaker 10: to sign a confidentiality agreement. As I think, can cap
- 53:14Speaker 10: on and think about what major cases do we have
- 53:17Speaker 10: pending here in Hamilton County.
- 53:19Speaker 9: I can think of a couple right off the top
- 53:21Speaker 9: of my head.
- 53:21Speaker 10: One is the ex Cincinnati fire chief Chief Washington is
- 53:25Speaker 10: the ex Cincinnati police chiefs case.
- 53:28Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's certainly both of them are possible,
- 53:33Speaker 4: although I think in the case of former fire chief Washington,
- 53:35Speaker 4: he is already the court has already determined that he
- 53:37Speaker 4: was wrongfully terminated, So I think, really what we're looking
- 53:39Speaker 4: on that one, it's just the damage calculation will kind
- 53:42Speaker 4: of check they're going to write him. But insofar as
- 53:45Speaker 4: THEG is concerned, I think we may have a valid
- 53:47Speaker 4: point there. And those are fun exercises. I was in
- 53:50Speaker 4: moot court in law school and you do mock trials
- 53:52Speaker 4: on that and go compete and things, and it was
- 53:54Speaker 4: a lot of fun. So that'd be great, a great
- 53:56Speaker 4: thing to do. I don't like the confidentiality part of it, Carl,
- 54:02Speaker 4: so appreciate you let us know about that one, Jeff
- 54:05Speaker 4: Scot Jeff, thanks for calling this morning.
- 54:06Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. What back at you?
- 54:13Speaker 11: Speaking of COVID, I remember waiting in line six feet
- 54:20Speaker 11: social distancing between bumpers. It's pure pumps.
- 54:25Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff, you know that the story that Moreno told
- 54:29Speaker 4: was a really it's a tragic one. Was such a
- 54:31Speaker 4: great point he was making. Again, I'll express my displeasure
- 54:34Speaker 4: that he felt the need to drop an F bomb
- 54:36Speaker 4: in there. We should be the side of you know,
- 54:39Speaker 4: maybe decorum. But in any event, great story. But that one,
- 54:42Speaker 4: Jeff reminded me. People walking around by themselves on the
- 54:46Speaker 4: beach with no mask got arrested. I think it was
- 54:48Speaker 4: got California.
- 54:50Speaker 11: My favorite part was Trump's speech when he looked over
- 54:55Speaker 11: and said, can we just drink some bleach.
- 55:01Speaker 4: Yeah, and he got ridiculed for that one too, But
- 55:04Speaker 4: he also made comments about ivermectin as well. As it
- 55:06Speaker 4: turned out, you know, ivermectin actually provided some people with
- 55:09Speaker 4: a lot of relief. You know, again, you get a
- 55:12Speaker 4: Pharmacies were directed not to fill prescriptions under what planet
- 55:17Speaker 4: and what society where our decision makers are going to
- 55:19Speaker 4: be some politician in some remote corner of the universe
- 55:22Speaker 4: telling pharmacies whether or not they can fill a prescription
- 55:25Speaker 4: when our medical providers, based upon their understanding of our
- 55:29Speaker 4: personal health information and history, recommend it. For some reason,
- 55:34Speaker 4: I got a prescription at the advice and recommendation of
- 55:38Speaker 4: my doctor. We discussed the ups and the downsides, we
- 55:41Speaker 4: discussed the risk, and we turned out I'm going to
- 55:43Speaker 4: take the prescription. You run that risk every time you
- 55:46Speaker 4: take a prescription, right, Listen to what the ads for
- 55:48Speaker 4: pharmaceuticals tell you. Your risk of death is very small,
- 55:51Speaker 4: but it's possible, And you talk about those possibilities with
- 55:54Speaker 4: your doctor and then you make a decision informed it
- 55:56Speaker 4: will be on whether or not to take any given medication.
- 55:59Speaker 4: In the case of IBERNMA and sorry you were taken
- 56:01Speaker 4: out as was your doctor from the entire equation.
- 56:03Speaker 2: Does that sound right?
- 56:05Speaker 4: No, were medical professionals that knew about your health and
- 56:09Speaker 4: your situation and maybe something even about ivermectin what a
- 56:12Speaker 4: canon cannot do. Were they involved in those decisions? I
- 56:15Speaker 4: really think not with the benefit of hindsight. I mean,
- 56:22Speaker 4: our constitution was eviscerated at the time, and I was
- 56:26Speaker 4: one of the first person to speak out about the
- 56:27Speaker 4: right to free assembly. Remember Dan Hill's FOP president was
- 56:31Speaker 4: on this program, angry at the people who took to
- 56:33Speaker 4: the streets in downtown Cincinnati, violating the you know that
- 56:37Speaker 4: don't get together rules that had poured out or what
- 56:39Speaker 4: I can't remember what they called him at the time.
- 56:43Speaker 4: And listen to these people are dangerous, these people. No,
- 56:46Speaker 4: they're exercising the right to free assembly. Just because there's
- 56:49Speaker 4: COVID out in the world. Maybe they're running a risk
- 56:52Speaker 4: of contracting COVID. But you know what, you can't stop
- 56:54Speaker 4: that and unring that bell. They're allowed to go down there.
- 56:56Speaker 4: The constitution says it's a public space. You get the
- 57:00Speaker 4: free exercise of religion. You're allowed to go to church.
- 57:02Speaker 7: No, you can't.
- 57:06Speaker 2: And remember, in terms of the first Amendment, the government officials,
- 57:10Speaker 2: we had lettered agencies in social media offices with their
- 57:16Speaker 2: own space like at Facebook, reviewing posts and deciding what
- 57:20Speaker 2: should and should not be removed. That is a First
- 57:25Speaker 2: Amendment violation because that's the private business who doesn't have
- 57:29Speaker 2: an obligation you went to the First Amendment. But working
- 57:31Speaker 2: and coordinating their efforts with government, and government is saying
- 57:34Speaker 2: what canon cannot be said. There, you have it, one
- 57:41Speaker 2: violation after another, and you saw the man responsible for
- 57:44Speaker 2: the vast majority of that sitting there asserting his constitutional
- 57:47Speaker 2: right against self incrimination in the face of a pardon
- 57:51Speaker 2: that he had already been given. Six pointy six Right now,
- 57:54Speaker 2: if you about KC the talk station get called USA
- 57:56Speaker 2: USA In's deep talk station. One think about KARCD.
- 58:01Speaker 4: Cooks Station and Peve readye Irixon Warren Davidson off the
- 58:04Speaker 4: top of the Aaron News. We'll get his comments about
- 58:06Speaker 4: Fauci as well. And also more bombing. Yesterday we took
- 58:09Speaker 4: another stab at the Iranians for well good reasons. Question
- 58:12Speaker 4: is how many more bombs we have left. We'll see
- 58:14Speaker 4: if Congressman Davidson has an opinion about that. And thank
- 58:18Speaker 4: you Eric for providing some contacts. Yeah, Donald Trump didn'tell
- 58:20Speaker 4: everybody to inject bleach. It was it was a contextual point.
- 58:24Speaker 4: And here this is when we realize that people can
- 58:26Speaker 4: say things out loud and when they have no basis
- 58:28Speaker 4: in science behind them, they're just It was sort of
- 58:30Speaker 4: a speculation and musing kind of thing. But yeah, he
- 58:32Speaker 4: got lambasted for it. So apparently his White House press briefing,
- 58:37Speaker 4: and thank you Eric for biding this, he didn't explicitly
- 58:42Speaker 4: command citizens or suggest drinking or injecting bleach. The Department
- 58:46Speaker 4: of Homeland Security official guy named William Bryan apparently presented
- 58:50Speaker 4: a study showing that bleach and icopropyl alcohol could kill
- 58:53Speaker 4: the coronavirus on surfaces and in saliva within minutes. Fine,
- 58:57Speaker 4: but that I guess caused Trump to meet US allowed
- 59:01Speaker 4: in and out of context statement about testing a quote
- 59:06Speaker 4: disinfectant where it knocks it out in one minute via
- 59:09Speaker 4: injection inside or almost a cleaning. Also questioned out a
- 59:13Speaker 4: lot of you v light could be brought inside the
- 59:15Speaker 4: body as a form of treatment. That sounds to me
- 59:17Speaker 4: like musing speculations. Hey, has any research been done on
- 59:20Speaker 4: the effectness of something along these lines?
- 59:23Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 59:26Speaker 4: And maybe if it had, someone might have brought a
- 59:28Speaker 4: research paper out saying, no, you can't do that because
- 59:31Speaker 4: it will kill you, or something to that effect. But
- 59:33Speaker 4: he wasn't saying that that was the solution or answer.
- 59:36Speaker 4: He wasn't saying that springing from some particular scientific study.
- 59:39Speaker 4: He was just on the heels of some random dude
- 59:41Speaker 4: pointing out that, hey, COVID can be killed with bleach
- 59:45Speaker 4: and alcohol. So there's the backstory behind that. See, we
- 59:48Speaker 4: get to relive history this morning after that Fauci display yesterday,
- 59:52Speaker 4: and again I find that to be one of the
- 59:53Speaker 4: biggest benefits of it. And yeah, and we should have
- 59:58Speaker 4: a lot more skepticism and cynicism and question marks swirling
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: around anything we're told by public officials, because there's always
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: something else that can be the reason behind it. Welcome
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: to where conspiracy theories come from. And good morning, Maureen.
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: Who did hear me make my comment about Wayne Root's
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: articles suggesting that COVID was released intentionally on the world
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: in order to ruin the twenty twenty election. Now I
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: find some fault with that theory, but you see, it's
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: a thought, it's a theory, it's something you could argue
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: he does a good argument on how this came about,
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: suggesting that the millions of people who died weren't necessarily
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: supposed to happen. That was like a whoops, so whatever.
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: But you see, you come up with all these different
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: alternative theories. Nefarious they may be. And that's the point
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: I'm making. When you have someone in elected capacity that
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: has the power and authority to have so much control
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: over the world that they can basically throw our constitution
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: out for a two years, is that done out of
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: concern for the American people or the world generally, the
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: health community generally speaking. Is it really done out of compassion?
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: Was it really?
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: We thought at the time it was the best possible
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: thing for everybody, which is why we gave this advice
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: out And it turns out we were wrong. I'm sorry,
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: but we had to do something. We didn't know what
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: we were facing. That may have been a person in
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: that capacity that was looking and trying to do the
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: right thing, and that kind of concept came up with
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: some of the other senators comments yesterday. But you see,
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: when you pull back the near of that being the
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: reason for what these elected officials or people in power
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: like Facie were telling us, you find out, No, there
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: might be a whole bunch of other reasons behind the
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: scenes that have nothing to do with us, that have
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: everything to do with his personal financial gain or his
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: building his celebrity name and character, his malignant narcissism. You
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: mean doctor Faci was looking out for his own per
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: personal best interests and not the best interests of the
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: global health community.
- 1:02:04Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: It took all this time to realize that nefarious realities
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: of what was going on. But there you go, there's
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: somebody who could have done it right and who could
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: have looked out for our best interest. Believed what he
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: was saying out loud to us behind the scenes as
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: much as he believed it when he was telling us.
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: But it wasn't that way. That's not the reality of
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: what happened. And move away from doctor Fauci and look
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: at every other illustration of where we found out things
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: like this. Bob Menendez, his name came up the other
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: day because Fauci's lawyer apparently one of the best criminal
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: attorneys on the planet. That guy's making a lot of money.
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: You represented Menendez, Bob gold Bar Menendez, remember you. I
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: guess the Turkey was bribing with gold bars. Oh there's
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: a person in electric capacity who was corrupt. Oh we've
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: never heard of that, have we? And here a nod
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: to my Democrat friend. It's like Richard Nixon, for example.
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: M And we could go on and on and on
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: and on about corrupt elected officials. Six forty six. Right now,
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: if you five k SEED talk station, is why I
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: have no fifty.
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: Five KRC deep talk station.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: Six fifty one fifty have KRCD talk station. Go straight
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: to the phones.
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: I got Mike on the line five on three seven
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: two three talk remember congres from Warren Davidson right off
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: the top of the R News. Mike, thanks for calling
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: this morning. Happy Friday.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: Eve.
- 1:03:27Speaker 9: Hey Brian, real quick about the Mondownie's free grocery stores
- 1:03:32Speaker 9: up in New York. I ever think it's gonna be
- 1:03:34Speaker 9: thirty percent off of regular prices. That if I having
- 1:03:39Speaker 9: a little bodega or something like that, get a bunch
- 1:03:42Speaker 9: of my friends together and just go and buy them
- 1:03:44Speaker 9: out by all the groceries and resell everything in my store.
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: Well, I guess you could try to do that, But
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: how long do you think these five grocery stores will
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: be around? Offering thirty percent discounts off staples.
- 1:04:00Speaker 9: Pray, if I want at each burrow there with nine
- 1:04:02Speaker 9: million people in New.
- 1:04:03Speaker 4: York, that's the figure I was looking for. Between eight
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: and nine million people all shop are all going to
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: head on over to the five count them government rure
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: state run stores where the taxpayer dollars will be supporting
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: the thirty percent discount on items like meat and eggs
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: and bread and other staples. So that systems ain't going
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: to work. You got eight million taxpayer. Let's assuming everybody
- 1:04:26Speaker 4: in New York actually worked. Yeah, they might individually want
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: to take advantage of the discount groceries, all of them
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: looking at their own tax bills saying wait a second,
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: I'm the one that's supporting these discounts. How come I
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: can't grab a slice. I don't think they're going to
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: do income verification before you walk into one either. I
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: think that might run into some legal challenges. So everybody's
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: going to be welcome, stand around the corner. And if
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: you've got that many people responding and reacting to favorably
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: these grocery stores because they get a big discount, the
- 1:04:53Speaker 4: line's going to be pretty long. And then you've got
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: the whole law of supply and demand. Let's assume the
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: demand is huge because of these sizable discounts. How much
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: meat do you need in the store. If you have
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: people standing blocks long in a line waiting to come
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: in and buy the pound of hamburger at a thirty
- 1:05:11Speaker 4: percent discount, I mean, the whole thing's a joke. And
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: then there's the insult to all of the other businesses
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: out there that have to deal with the economic realities
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: of paying rent, paying an electric bill, paying their employees,
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: buying goods on the open market, and then reselling them
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: at a slight increase in price. Grocery store margins are
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: the thinnest in the world. I mean, if you're in
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: a business, grocery store business, what your your your revenue
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: is with two percent, three percent, four percent, you got
- 1:05:44Speaker 4: to sell a lot of stuff to make a lot
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: of money. But when you got a bodega and you're
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: competing with it with something right down the street that
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: can offer a thirty percent discount on the backs of
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: the taxpayers. While in government property not subject to property
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: taxes or rent payments, you can stay in business, which
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: I think is one of the reasons why the bodega
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: and shop owners private they are are suing. I believe
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: the Mondom administration over this nefarious plot to end their business.
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: But isn't that exactly what communists are all about. They
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: don't believe in private ownership. They don't believe in anything
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: but controlling and owning the means of production. The grocery
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: store is a great illustration. They own it, they control it.
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: They will determine what's in it, what is sold and
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: what isn't, how much product will be available on any
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: given day. And you can expect, based upon my supply
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: demandpoint there rationing which you don't normally see when you
- 1:06:43Speaker 4: head on over to your local Kroger or even bodega.
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: Six to fifty five, fifty five KRCD Talk Station Congressman
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: Warren Davidson at the top of the air news we're
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: gonna hear from Richard Lyons, author author of the DNA
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: of Demand, coming up on seven oh six at fifty
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: five KRCD Talk Station Extra special on a Thursday, which
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: quite often is at this time the return. Oh and
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: thank god for Congressman Warren Davidson. There are some good
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: ones out there. Welcome back, Congressman Davidson. Always a pleasure
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: to have you on the fifty five KRCE Morning Show. Sir, Hey,
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: welcome back to you as well. It's great to have
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: the crew together and not always an honor to join you.
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: And speaking of the crew, I hate to put you
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: on the spot, but quite often I have seen you
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: at the Hoodie Memorial which has taken place this Saturday.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: Are you going to be there to make an appearance?
- 1:07:25Speaker 12: My apologies this year, I will not oh going out
- 1:07:28Speaker 12: to speak to the gun owners of America on Saturday.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: A worthy endeavor. I'll mention your name.
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: That's a Hoodie Memorial celebrates the legacy of MSD Corey
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: hood who lost his life in a tragic parashating accident.
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: He was a US Army Golden Knight, but he loved
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: his hometown of Westchester, and so they created a scholarship fund,
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: one of which is fully funded. And I hate to
- 1:07:47Speaker 4: take a little time here, but it's such a great organization.
- 1:07:49Speaker 4: I mean, it's a sense of community. He loved his
- 1:07:53Speaker 4: community and he spread that joy and love wherever he went,
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: and we see so little of that hometown, proud love
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: and any more. And that's why I think it's such
- 1:08:01Speaker 4: a beautiful foundation. So they've got a fully funded scholarship
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: given seventy five hundred bucks to Lakota students graduating. They've
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: got to get a youth athletics fund, which they're trying
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: to get fully funded, as well as a memorial Veterans
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: and Active service members fund. So we're gonna be putting
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: some money together this Saturday for them, and so A
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: salutes everybody involved in that charity, and God rest his soul.
- 1:08:22Speaker 4: MSG Corey Hood. Anyway, on new matters, let's just quickly
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: dive into the Fauci testimony. Did you watch it? I
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: thought the one thing we get to benefit from it
- 1:08:32Speaker 4: was this concentrated dose of cold water fire hose grade reality.
- 1:08:38Speaker 4: One factually back, they brought the goods with them, point
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: after another about how that man lied to us and
- 1:08:45Speaker 4: was in this job seemingly for his own personal financial
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: gain and to serve his own malignant narcissism. But your
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: reaction and do you think anything's going to come after
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: the yesterday's circus Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean he's.
- 1:08:59Speaker 12: A discuss guy. You look Fauci for prison in my
- 1:09:02Speaker 12: view at least, I mean, so I thought look two things.
- 1:09:08Speaker 12: Rand Paul was well prepared for this, years preparing for it.
- 1:09:12Speaker 12: Josh Holly did a nice job of saying, no, no,
- 1:09:14Speaker 12: you can't claim immunity for that because you can't incorinators,
- 1:09:17Speaker 12: you have no liability there. He walked him through the code,
- 1:09:21Speaker 12: and then in Rand Paul's final questioning, he's laying out
- 1:09:25Speaker 12: saying everything, let's be specific, this is for the years
- 1:09:29Speaker 12: of your pardon. So he's taken off of the table
- 1:09:31Speaker 12: that there's any risk to him because the pardon has
- 1:09:34Speaker 12: already been issued. And I think that sets him up
- 1:09:37Speaker 12: to get a contempt at Congress charge. I don't know
- 1:09:41Speaker 12: where that'll go. Congress has referred lots of things to
- 1:09:43Speaker 12: the Department of Justice and see no action. But I
- 1:09:47Speaker 12: was encouraged that Trump, although he still defends the brilliant success,
- 1:09:52Speaker 12: says this time mating COVID and warp speed and everything.
- 1:09:56Speaker 12: He's at least it's the first time I've ever seen
- 1:09:58Speaker 12: him be critical of a fouc. So he walked himself
- 1:10:01Speaker 12: away from Fauci yesterday with some truth social post, and
- 1:10:06Speaker 12: so far I had never really seen him be critical
- 1:10:08Speaker 12: of Fauci, So I think that's maybe there's some hope
- 1:10:10Speaker 12: that DJ will do something.
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: Well, there's certainly that possibility. And one of the arguments
- 1:10:15Speaker 4: that been made on Fauci's behalf, at least from a
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: legal perspective, and we are going to have Steve Gooden
- 1:10:19Speaker 4: on later in this hour to talk about the whole
- 1:10:20Speaker 4: Fifth Amendment assertion is that perhaps he could still be
- 1:10:24Speaker 4: facing state level criminal charges, and therefore, because the presidential
- 1:10:28Speaker 4: immunity doesn't extend on the state charges, if there is
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: a theory of criminal liability or other, maybe perhaps civil
- 1:10:33Speaker 4: liability that exists out in the world, that he may
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: still be facing some which may serve as the reason
- 1:10:39Speaker 4: for his perhaps although I question it valid assertion to
- 1:10:43Speaker 4: the Fifth Amendment.
- 1:10:45Speaker 12: Well, it's certainly possible, and that's a way out. But
- 1:10:48Speaker 12: I'd rather see him using that Fifth Amendment on a
- 1:10:51Speaker 12: stand in a state court. Yeah, and I care it's
- 1:10:54Speaker 12: a municipal court. At this point, I just think this
- 1:10:57Speaker 12: this is a disgusting guy. I mean to me, this
- 1:10:59Speaker 12: is a failure year of our constitution. Uh, the framework's
- 1:11:03Speaker 12: there for us to have accountability, So I don't know
- 1:11:07Speaker 12: that this isn't the system our Constitution really built. And
- 1:11:10Speaker 12: so it's a failure of our elected officials and our
- 1:11:13Speaker 12: people to hold people like Anthony Fauci or Alexandro Maiorchis.
- 1:11:20Speaker 12: In my opinion, I mean complete violation of the oath.
- 1:11:22Speaker 12: The oath is the Homeland Security secretaries to scare the border.
- 1:11:26Speaker 12: He completely violated that, and we've seen no action taken
- 1:11:30Speaker 12: against my Orchis. Couldn't you couldn't even get a vote
- 1:11:33Speaker 12: on impeaching him when he was on office. You look
- 1:11:36Speaker 12: at Fauci and you look at you know, corruption we
- 1:11:38Speaker 12: did ban well, the House did it, hasn't do anything.
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: We've had a.
- 1:11:43Speaker 12: Vote to ban congressional stock trading. It's not insider trading.
- 1:11:47Speaker 12: Insider trading still illegal, but you know, there's this feeling
- 1:11:51Speaker 12: that Congress has things that average people don't. Even though
- 1:11:55Speaker 12: the hearings are republic the average person didn't watching them.
- 1:11:59Speaker 12: So they're like, let's just being co congressionals trading. But
- 1:12:03Speaker 12: you got to extend that to guys like Fauci. That's right,
- 1:12:05Speaker 12: you guys making off of this. So if you're going
- 1:12:08Speaker 12: to do it, this guy has does he have inside information?
- 1:12:11Speaker 12: He's reviewing the things that stay classified for sixty years
- 1:12:16Speaker 12: and giving approval and formally getting money out of it,
- 1:12:19Speaker 12: and the current ethics laws. He flouted to to Senator
- 1:12:23Speaker 12: Paul saying, I don't have to answer that. I don't
- 1:12:26Speaker 12: have to tell you specifically in the law. I don't
- 1:12:28Speaker 12: have to tell you how much money I'm making because
- 1:12:30Speaker 12: of disapproval.
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane.
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: And that is a very valid point, which is, you know,
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: and going back to my comments earlier, but we put
- 1:12:37Speaker 4: so much faith in elected officials or so called, you know,
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: respected men of science like Fauci, and we take them
- 1:12:44Speaker 4: as what their words are, as gospel because we presume
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: that there's no nefarious intent behind what they're doing. But
- 1:12:50Speaker 4: going back to your part about trading stocks, if Fauci
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: is invested in pharmaceutical companies, pick one, maybe one that
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: manufactures the new vaccine that comes out. He is telling
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: the world and I know, oh, there's still some swirling
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: question marks a map whether let's say, ivermectin worked or
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: didn't work to get rid of COVID. We were all
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: told it's a horse worm pill.
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: Don't take it. If you do, you're crazy.
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: Your social media posts relating to that, in spite of
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: the fact that some people had success, that some doctors
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: were prescribing it even though the pharmacies wouldn't fill it.
- 1:13:17Speaker 4: You know that might have because it's a generic drug
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: been on the market for decades. That might put a
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: crimp in the whole idea of making profit at the
- 1:13:24Speaker 4: pharmaceutical companies.
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: Can you imagine if.
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: You have the ability to flip a switch and say no,
- 1:13:30Speaker 4: that alternative, potentially useful medicine you cannot have.
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: It will not work. My word is gospel.
- 1:13:36Speaker 4: And that turns into a mandate for a pharmaceutical manufactured
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: product that's brand new that will make that company millions
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: and millions of dollars. That sounds like a money making opportunity.
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: To meet Congressman Davidson. So maybe we should expand the
- 1:13:49Speaker 4: ban on stock trading to literally everyone in the capacity
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: that has anything related to do with an impact on
- 1:13:55Speaker 4: any stock.
- 1:13:58Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, look, I've put it. Ethics should take
- 1:14:00Speaker 12: care of that. But they're formally drafting it for Fauci's role.
- 1:14:03Speaker 12: As we learned, they're in sestimony where they specifically don't
- 1:14:07Speaker 12: I mean part of the compensation package from the FDA
- 1:14:09Speaker 12: and the way the fund the FDA even is drug approvals.
- 1:14:13Speaker 12: So like if you want cash flow for the organization
- 1:14:15Speaker 12: just to prove more drugs. You look at, as you said,
- 1:14:19Speaker 12: complete control over it. A lot of people think the
- 1:14:22Speaker 12: ivermectin thing was to make sure that it didn't kill
- 1:14:25Speaker 12: the emergency use authority for it. An honest thing would
- 1:14:29Speaker 12: have said, well, we still want to do emergency use
- 1:14:31Speaker 12: for some crazy reason. But you know, okay, if you
- 1:14:36Speaker 12: want to be honest about ivermect and be honest. But
- 1:14:39Speaker 12: there's so much deception there, and you look at other
- 1:14:43Speaker 12: things that have been exposed. I mean, this is the
- 1:14:45Speaker 12: frailty of where we were going as a country. You know,
- 1:14:48Speaker 12: you talked about you're canceled if you even mentioned this.
- 1:14:51Speaker 12: This was s s each So we look at the
- 1:14:54Speaker 12: coercive power of government here, everything that's supposed to be just.
- 1:14:58Speaker 12: I mean, this is a failo verdosa government, and there's
- 1:15:01Speaker 12: been no remedy for it. We know that there's been
- 1:15:04Speaker 12: massive abuses of the power of you know, making money
- 1:15:08Speaker 12: off of your actions like Fauci did and every other thing.
- 1:15:12Speaker 12: There's been no real accountability for it, and we hadn't
- 1:15:15Speaker 12: really changed the laws to really prevent it from happening again.
- 1:15:18Speaker 12: Even though some states like you know, Florida did far
- 1:15:21Speaker 12: better than states like you know Ohio and preserve freedom
- 1:15:27Speaker 12: and good governments defend freedom. Ohio certainly didn't. And at
- 1:15:31Speaker 12: least our state legislature pulled back, you know, the emergency
- 1:15:35Speaker 12: authorization from Governor Dwaine. You eventually got enough Republicans in
- 1:15:39Speaker 12: the State House and State Senate to override his veto
- 1:15:44Speaker 12: and they pulled back the emergency powers.
- 1:15:46Speaker 7: But what a horrible era.
- 1:15:47Speaker 12: And Fauci's the icon for it, and he.
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: Had well and even when there have been laws on
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: the books for years and years, we find out first
- 1:15:55Speaker 4: time for me yesterday Josh Halla introducing all this information
- 1:15:58Speaker 4: about how Fauci elite use staff to solicit prize money
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: while serving as the director of the National Ensue for
- 1:16:04Speaker 4: Allergy and Infectious Diseases. He had like eight people working
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: down their government hours helping him to achieve these financial prizes.
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: All you are has got to be declared the winner
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: of the Dan David Award and you get hundreds of
- 1:16:16Speaker 4: thousands of dollars. He was having them go out into
- 1:16:18Speaker 4: the world and advocate to the people responsible for making
- 1:16:21Speaker 4: the award to award it to him. That's illegal. It's
- 1:16:25Speaker 4: a violation of law. Well, and there's one of the
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: things he was pardoned for.
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: But even when there's laws on the books, we obviously
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: have probably a whole complete history, volumes toms full of
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: information about politicians and people in government who violate the
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: law and knowingly do so. So the laws don't always
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: quite help, do they.
- 1:16:45Speaker 12: Well, it's not helping. And you know that's you know,
- 1:16:48Speaker 12: it's one of the frustrations I think for everybody right
- 1:16:51Speaker 12: now is Okay, well what has changed? And I think, look,
- 1:16:55Speaker 12: let's not forget all the things that did change. And
- 1:16:58Speaker 12: you know, when Sident Trump came in, we saw lots
- 1:17:01Speaker 12: of reform. But I will say, even when you know,
- 1:17:04Speaker 12: we had a Republican majority in the House, Joe Biden
- 1:17:10Speaker 12: was the president. But to our surprise, we were able
- 1:17:14Speaker 12: to get into the emergency declaration because early on in
- 1:17:18Speaker 12: the Biden administration they were trying to copy what Ohio
- 1:17:22Speaker 12: was doing and use workers comp and every other agency
- 1:17:25Speaker 12: out there to be coercive. If you don't comply with
- 1:17:28Speaker 12: the COVID Executive Order mandates, you know, then we'll pull
- 1:17:32Speaker 12: your license, will shut you down. You can't go to
- 1:17:34Speaker 12: work if you don't get the shot. They were trying
- 1:17:37Speaker 12: to use that for Osha and everything.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: Else at the federal level. The groundwork for that had
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: already been laid out here in.
- 1:17:43Speaker 12: The laboratories of tyranny around the country, with these tyrants
- 1:17:49Speaker 12: all over the country just issuing orders. Amy Acton, of course,
- 1:17:54Speaker 12: was the Ohio whisperer, But at the end of the day,
- 1:17:57Speaker 12: the governor at least admitted his role and being the decider.
- 1:18:01Speaker 12: As the governor, He's certainly empowered Amy acting to do
- 1:18:04Speaker 12: bad things. And I'd hate to see her come back.
- 1:18:07Speaker 12: That'd be like, you know, flashback of fauci here.
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: Oh, no question about it. Thank you for putting an
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: exclamation point on the need for my listeners to get
- 1:18:15Speaker 4: out and vote in November. Took away more with Congressman
- 1:18:17Speaker 4: Warren Davidson. Bombs are dropping more over in Iran. Do
- 1:18:20Speaker 4: we have enough? Fifty five KCD talk station? Sounds to
- 1:18:25Speaker 4: me like they're pulling Donald Trump's chains. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary
- 1:18:29Speaker 4: Guard Corps sort of launching additional missiles into Jordan yesterday.
- 1:18:33Speaker 4: Apparently all of them were shot down. Swirling question marks
- 1:18:36Speaker 4: about you know what we're going to do. We did
- 1:18:37Speaker 4: retaliate with additional missiles but amid reports that we're running
- 1:18:40Speaker 4: low and our air defense, our weapons have been depleted.
- 1:18:44Speaker 4: Congressman Warren Davidson, what word have you gotten on the
- 1:18:47Speaker 4: situation there? I know there's been a big, multi billion
- 1:18:50Speaker 4: dollar ask to fund this conflict. What's your take on
- 1:18:54Speaker 4: where we are and are we concerned about our weapons stockpile?
- 1:19:00Speaker 12: Well, where we're at as in an escalation trap. You know,
- 1:19:02Speaker 12: we haven't committed to win a war decisively. To do that,
- 1:19:06Speaker 12: you would declare war or at least authorize it, and
- 1:19:09Speaker 12: the whole nation would be united behind the war. And
- 1:19:13Speaker 12: that's what our constitution requires and one of the reasons
- 1:19:17Speaker 12: why it requires it, and it was in the debates
- 1:19:19Speaker 12: as to how they would structure the constitution and why
- 1:19:23Speaker 12: they structured it the way they did. Federalist sixty nine
- 1:19:26Speaker 12: lays it out, there are no free wars. It's one
- 1:19:29Speaker 12: of the big threats to a country is bankruptcy, in
- 1:19:34Speaker 12: being bankrupted or really wrecking the population by laying heavy
- 1:19:39Speaker 12: taxes and burdens to be able to pay off wars.
- 1:19:42Speaker 12: So that's the kind of thing that our funding fathers
- 1:19:45Speaker 12: considered as lessons from history when they structured it that way.
- 1:19:50Speaker 12: Now we're kind of in this passive mode where well,
- 1:19:53Speaker 12: we're not really going to even sometimes acknowledge that it's
- 1:19:55Speaker 12: a war. There's even an effort to pretend that the
- 1:19:58Speaker 12: war really was lasting from February twenty eighth until the
- 1:20:02Speaker 12: MoU was entered into and then there was like this
- 1:20:06Speaker 12: magic new date that started with new hostilities and complete
- 1:20:10Speaker 12: disrespect for four soldiers who died in Jordan where they're
- 1:20:14Speaker 12: not listed as killed in action in this Iran war.
- 1:20:18Speaker 12: I mean, I find that just obscene. I mean, it's
- 1:20:23Speaker 12: morally wrong, and that's why you should just be honest.
- 1:20:27Speaker 12: It's a war, it's the Iran War.
- 1:20:29Speaker 7: It's just so.
- 1:20:30Speaker 12: Outmize that they didn't that's not unprecedented. But now they
- 1:20:34Speaker 12: need lots of money to do it, because it costs
- 1:20:37Speaker 12: a lot of money to use these weapons, and of
- 1:20:40Speaker 12: course you have to replenish them, just like you need
- 1:20:44Speaker 12: to replenish this strategic patrolum reserve. You're draining on it,
- 1:20:47Speaker 12: draining on it.
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: You need to replenish it.
- 1:20:49Speaker 12: And you know, that's one of the things President Trump
- 1:20:52Speaker 12: tried to do, you know, at the end of his
- 1:20:54Speaker 12: first term, because with covid oil was third cheap you know,
- 1:20:59Speaker 12: and the Democrats literally blocked them from replenishing it when
- 1:21:02Speaker 12: oil was cheap, so all through the Biden administration, they
- 1:21:06Speaker 12: drained that down. They drained our weapons systems down because
- 1:21:09Speaker 12: they gave everything they could in the world to Ukraine
- 1:21:14Speaker 12: as they eventually ran to the limits of Congress's willingness
- 1:21:17Speaker 12: to vote for it. I never voted for any money
- 1:21:19Speaker 12: for Ukraine personally. They never got around to defying a
- 1:21:22Speaker 12: mission there, but they.
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: At least have.
- 1:21:27Speaker 12: You know, they've drained it. I mean, that's what happened,
- 1:21:30Speaker 12: that's what Trump came into and then these wars have
- 1:21:33Speaker 12: also put a burden on it. So yeah, they're going
- 1:21:36Speaker 12: to have to spend money, and they're going to have
- 1:21:37Speaker 12: to do production, and they are working on the production,
- 1:21:41Speaker 12: I will say that. And you know, they passed a
- 1:21:44Speaker 12: budget to be able to spend the money, but it's
- 1:21:46Speaker 12: not clear that it can get through the Senate. And frankly,
- 1:21:49Speaker 12: they're working to pass defense appropriations. All in the request,
- 1:21:52Speaker 12: combine the supplemental request plus regular appropriations, they're asking for
- 1:21:57Speaker 12: an additional six hundred billion dollars, so they're capturing it
- 1:22:01Speaker 12: out of sixty seventy or three fifty billion here or there.
- 1:22:04Speaker 12: But do you take the baseline last year it was
- 1:22:06Speaker 12: like eight hundred and thirty nine billion dollars, and you
- 1:22:09Speaker 12: add what the combined total request is. They weren't just
- 1:22:12Speaker 12: under one point five trillion, So I think it's about
- 1:22:15Speaker 12: six hundred and eleven billion dollars extra they want this
- 1:22:19Speaker 12: year for defense.
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: That's a lot of money.
- 1:22:22Speaker 4: That is a lot of money. You can't say more
- 1:22:25Speaker 4: than that. That is absolutely right. Let's end on that note.
- 1:22:27Speaker 4: Congressman Warren Davidson. Appreciate your time spending the time in
- 1:22:31Speaker 4: talking about these important issues with my listeners and mean
- 1:22:33Speaker 4: as you often do, and I thank you for that.
- 1:22:35Speaker 4: I know my listeners are truly appreciative of your willingness
- 1:22:37Speaker 4: to do that. I hope you have a wonderful weekend
- 1:22:39Speaker 4: and your speech, and look forward to having you on
- 1:22:41Speaker 4: the program again very very soon.
- 1:22:43Speaker 7: Sir.
- 1:22:44Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks Brian, always an honor to join you. God
- 1:22:46Speaker 12: bless you and all your listeners.
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: Thanks author well, actually jack of all trades. It's like
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: a renaissance man. Richard Lyons.
- 1:22:52Speaker 4: He is a graduate Loyal Academy, went to the University
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: of North Texas, graduated career at the Southern methhis university
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: lifelong admirer of the written word, which led him to
- 1:23:02Speaker 4: literary pursuits as a poet an sas screenwriter. He's a
- 1:23:07Speaker 4: third generation printer whose father dedicated his life to education
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: and publishing and telecommunication fields. My guest Mitch Richard Lyons
- 1:23:14Speaker 4: has also been involved in the printing trade, publishing stage
- 1:23:17Speaker 4: and television production see Renaissance Man. He is Richard Lyons,
- 1:23:21Speaker 4: author of the series we're going to talk about today,
- 1:23:23Speaker 4: the DNA of Democracy series at the three volume series.
- 1:23:29Speaker 4: Welcome to the show, sir. It's pleasure to have you on.
- 1:23:31Speaker 13: Oh thank you, Brian, good to be here.
- 1:23:33Speaker 4: Now, would you do for my listening on into me
- 1:23:35Speaker 4: a service. There's three of these in the series, the
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: DNA of Democracy Volume one, and you have Shadows of
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: the Acropolis, which is the volume two in the series,
- 1:23:44Speaker 4: and then finally Passages through the Shadows, which is volume three.
- 1:23:49Speaker 4: In what way are these divided by way of topics
- 1:23:51Speaker 4: relating to the overarching subject of democracy.
- 1:23:55Speaker 13: Well, Volume one, Brian, is all about how astitution was
- 1:24:01Speaker 13: created from many elements in the history of humanity, going
- 1:24:07Speaker 13: back to the Ten Commandments, the first Common Law of humanity,
- 1:24:10Speaker 13: which entailed the obedience of king and priest as well
- 1:24:14Speaker 13: as commoner. And it goes through Greece, and it goes
- 1:24:17Speaker 13: through Rome, and it goes through the slow evolution of
- 1:24:19Speaker 13: the common law in England based on the Magna Carta,
- 1:24:23Speaker 13: and arrives in America among the Native Americans when the
- 1:24:28Speaker 13: Pilgrims landed and the influence that they had on governance
- 1:24:33Speaker 13: in America. And it arrives to the Constitutional and Conventions
- 1:24:38Speaker 13: after the Revolution in seventeen eighty seven in Philadelphia, and
- 1:24:43Speaker 13: how are the Constitution was particularly put together based on
- 1:24:51Speaker 13: the histories of former democracies and republics and republics and
- 1:24:55Speaker 13: all the virtuous governance based on government through the individual.
- 1:25:01Speaker 13: Individuals determine what government they have. It's a it's a
- 1:25:08Speaker 13: question that goes back to Socrates. Who rules who? In
- 1:25:11Speaker 13: our government, the individual and individuals in assembly through representation
- 1:25:18Speaker 13: rule themselves. The government doesn't dictate to individuals what they
- 1:25:22Speaker 13: can and cannot do.
- 1:25:23Speaker 7: Yeah, in a world that's it's what makes us unique.
- 1:25:25Speaker 4: Well, And I think the Founding fathers demonstrate the value
- 1:25:29Speaker 4: of being great students of history because they had all
- 1:25:31Speaker 4: of these resource materials which they poured through they study
- 1:25:35Speaker 4: the differences in forms of de in forms of government,
- 1:25:38Speaker 4: found out where the evils sprung from. And ultimately this
- 1:25:41Speaker 4: is the real Saling point, I think. Ultimately gave us,
- 1:25:45Speaker 4: the individual, the citizen, the right to control our own destiny,
- 1:25:49Speaker 4: which is kind of a foreign concept even to this
- 1:25:51Speaker 4: day globally.
- 1:25:53Speaker 13: No, it's not, it is. It is the unique form
- 1:25:58Speaker 13: of government. And you human history. The tale of human
- 1:26:02Speaker 13: history is a history of tyranny. Brian. That we turned
- 1:26:07Speaker 13: the normal manner of governments throughout human history over into
- 1:26:12Speaker 13: being one where the individual rules himself. Was the miracle
- 1:26:16Speaker 13: that happened in Philadelphia where fifty five representatives of thirteen
- 1:26:22Speaker 13: New States brought all you're exactly right, all the historical
- 1:26:27Speaker 13: material of every relevant library, personal and public into that
- 1:26:33Speaker 13: convention center and poured over how do we best construct
- 1:26:38Speaker 13: a government? And that's exactly what they did.
- 1:26:41Speaker 4: All right, And then pivoting over to Volume two, Shadows
- 1:26:44Speaker 4: of the Acropolis. Is curious about the name of how
- 1:26:47Speaker 4: you came up with that? Shadows of the CROPO says
- 1:26:49Speaker 4: the name, But also the great great rhetorical questions are
- 1:26:51Speaker 4: got in front of me, like you know, how come
- 1:26:53Speaker 4: this whole great experiment we have has sort of devolved
- 1:26:57Speaker 4: into name calling and we just then reaching proper solutions
- 1:27:01Speaker 4: to the appropriate democratic process. It's just born of hatred
- 1:27:05Speaker 4: and violence. So what's this volume directed toward.
- 1:27:08Speaker 13: Well, it's called Shadows of the Acropolis. Firstly, because the
- 1:27:13Speaker 13: Acropolis is the ideal point in Volume one, where you
- 1:27:18Speaker 13: have free trade, you have free thought in Athens and
- 1:27:24Speaker 13: so forth. It was the ideal of classical democracy. And
- 1:27:30Speaker 13: how it has changed in America in the past one
- 1:27:32Speaker 13: hundred years is that since the presidency of Woodrow Wiliams, Yes,
- 1:27:38Speaker 13: socialism has been creeping into our society for one hundred years.
- 1:27:43Speaker 13: He famously said in a quote that the Russians, the Bolsheviks,
- 1:27:48Speaker 13: did it wrong. They did socialism through revolution. In America,
- 1:27:53Speaker 13: we can achieve the same end through evolution. And that's
- 1:27:58Speaker 13: what they've been doing for one hundred years. They've been
- 1:28:00Speaker 13: slowly taking power and wealth from individuals, localities, states, businesses
- 1:28:06Speaker 13: and putting it in one place Washington, d c. Where
- 1:28:09Speaker 13: there has become a concentration of power in the administrative state,
- 1:28:14Speaker 13: an unenumerated branch of government. In other words, it's not
- 1:28:17Speaker 13: in the constitution. And that is why whenever you have
- 1:28:22Speaker 13: a concentration of power, it's us and them, indeed, and
- 1:28:26Speaker 13: there's infighting, and when people feel they're not represented, Brian,
- 1:28:31Speaker 13: that's when you come to difficulty. And now you have
- 1:28:34Speaker 13: a Democrat party which has had all this power and
- 1:28:39Speaker 13: has grown this power for one hundred years. Now when
- 1:28:42Speaker 13: they don't, when they can't win elections, they rig them.
- 1:28:45Speaker 13: When they can't get what they want through constitutional process,
- 1:28:50Speaker 13: they do it through rigging the system and through violence.
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: They can't do it through.
- 1:28:55Speaker 4: They can't do it through advocacy, logic and reason and
- 1:28:58Speaker 4: winning over the hearts and minds of people. Be they
- 1:29:00Speaker 4: have better ideas, period, we reject those out of hand,
- 1:29:03Speaker 4: and therefore they foist them upon us in violation to
- 1:29:06Speaker 4: the very principles our countries founded upon, which sort of
- 1:29:09Speaker 4: leads us.
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: I believe.
- 1:29:10Speaker 4: The Passages through the Shadows, which is Volume three, this
- 1:29:13Speaker 4: where you discuss this kind of place where we seem
- 1:29:16Speaker 4: to be now, this sort of questioning, this own beautiful
- 1:29:19Speaker 4: experiment that's been so successful exactly so.
- 1:29:23Speaker 13: Volume two ends with the orchestrated coup attempt against Trump
- 1:29:31Speaker 13: in his first in his first presidency, and also goes
- 1:29:35Speaker 13: into the law fair period Passages through the Shadows, Brian
- 1:29:40Speaker 13: is the battlegrounds we find ourselves on today between our
- 1:29:45Speaker 13: founding principles and where socialism is now going in this country.
- 1:29:50Speaker 13: It's between literally is when you go to the end
- 1:29:55Speaker 13: of volume two, I list on two pages that face
- 1:29:58Speaker 13: each other, the trade of our founding liberty and the
- 1:30:02Speaker 13: traits of tyranny and socialism. And they're not just dissimilar,
- 1:30:07Speaker 13: they are diametric opposites. And that is why we find ourselves,
- 1:30:12Speaker 13: you know, largely through the media, at war with one
- 1:30:15Speaker 13: another in our viewpoints, because they are so opposite. So
- 1:30:20Speaker 13: when you find the cornerstone of our founding, and I'll
- 1:30:24Speaker 13: just be trying to be brief, is based on private property.
- 1:30:29Speaker 13: Trump couldn't have survived the coup attempt if he didn't
- 1:30:31Speaker 13: have the financial resources to do so. It broke associates
- 1:30:36Speaker 13: of his A lot of his associates have gone broke
- 1:30:39Speaker 13: defending themselves against the government who has all the tax
- 1:30:42Speaker 13: base of America to persecute people with. Indeed, so public
- 1:30:47Speaker 13: private property is the cornerstone of our freedoms. And in
- 1:30:51Speaker 13: New York you see Mamdani just determining which landlord he
- 1:30:55Speaker 13: doesn't particularly like and setting them aside for their property
- 1:31:00Speaker 13: to be firstly regulated into poverty and.
- 1:31:03Speaker 4: Then confiscated enemies lists. Boy, we haven't seen that out
- 1:31:07Speaker 4: in the world before, have we, sir?
- 1:31:09Speaker 13: The DNA a keystone of socialism.
- 1:31:11Speaker 4: Yes, it is, and then line them up and shoot him.
- 1:31:14Speaker 4: Richard lyons the DNA Democracy Series Volumes one through three.
- 1:31:18Speaker 4: We've made it really easy for my listeners to get them.
- 1:31:19Speaker 4: They're going to get up my blog and web page
- 1:31:22Speaker 4: at fifty five KC dot iHeart dot com link right there.
- 1:31:25Speaker 4: Please get a copy of these. You couldn't have written
- 1:31:27Speaker 4: these this series at a better time, Richard. I wish
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: they weren't necessary, but lord knows, we could certainly use
- 1:31:32Speaker 4: a refresher course and a reminder of how important we
- 1:31:34Speaker 4: have it, or how good we've got it here, and
- 1:31:36Speaker 4: what we're going to face if we turn our backs
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: on it. Richard, thank you for your time today and
- 1:31:40Speaker 4: for writing this great series. Friday Eve stick Around got
- 1:31:44Speaker 4: Jim Lewis building Blocks of Liberty coming up at after
- 1:31:46Speaker 4: top of that, our News got the couple of lesson
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: classes coming up in August, as well as Jay Ratliffe.
- 1:31:51Speaker 4: In the meantime, welcome back. It's always great having our
- 1:31:53Speaker 4: legal expert from Porter Wright, Steve goodin return. Today we're
- 1:31:57Speaker 4: gonna talking about the Fifth Amendment assertion in the face
- 1:31:59Speaker 4: of the fact that doctor Fauci had a complete blanket plea.
- 1:32:03Speaker 4: Welcome back, Steve Gooden. I appreciate your willingness to come
- 1:32:06Speaker 4: on the show and talk about this.
- 1:32:08Speaker 7: No anytime, Brian, good morning.
- 1:32:09Speaker 4: So he's got a pardon, and there's correct me if
- 1:32:13Speaker 4: I'm wrong, because I have read it all over the
- 1:32:16Speaker 4: no scholar on Fifth Amendment assertions. Am I, but if
- 1:32:18Speaker 4: you get a pardon, then you cannot use the Fifth
- 1:32:21Speaker 4: Amendment right to free be free of self incrimination for
- 1:32:23Speaker 4: matters that are covered by the pardon period. End of story,
- 1:32:26Speaker 4: full stop. Am I right, No, that's right.
- 1:32:30Speaker 7: I mean, I mean he's got a pardon that really
- 1:32:32Speaker 7: covers all of his actions from twenty fourteen through January nineteen,
- 1:32:38Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, when it was signed by Joe Biden
- 1:32:43Speaker 7: the day before his term ended. But and so all
- 1:32:47Speaker 7: the stuff that it appeared that Paul, primarily Senator Paul,
- 1:32:52Speaker 7: was trying to ask him about about the origins of
- 1:32:54Speaker 7: COVID and so forth. You know, in theory should have
- 1:32:57Speaker 7: been covered. Now that said, I think we're gonna have
- 1:33:00Speaker 7: some litigation around this because Senator Paul said Fauci for
- 1:33:08Speaker 7: investigation and possible referral for prosecution for contempt of Congress
- 1:33:12Speaker 7: for improperly asserting the Fifth Amendment, which means there could
- 1:33:16Speaker 7: be a hearing at some point in front of a
- 1:33:18Speaker 7: judge in the DC circuit as to whether or not
- 1:33:21Speaker 7: Fauci had their other conduct that is not covered by
- 1:33:23Speaker 7: the part. The first one that we know that his
- 1:33:26Speaker 7: lawyers were going to assert yesterday if they ended up
- 1:33:30Speaker 7: getting kicked out of the thing for disrupting the hearing
- 1:33:33Speaker 7: is the possibility of state prosecution. Number one. I mean,
- 1:33:37Speaker 7: the pardon does not and cannot cover state prosecution. So
- 1:33:42Speaker 7: for instance, if he Praauci said something or more or
- 1:33:45Speaker 7: less admitted that he knew about the origins of COVID
- 1:33:49Speaker 7: in a way, or misled people or improperly closed schools,
- 1:33:52Speaker 7: or any of the things that they came out yesterday,
- 1:33:55Speaker 7: it is they theoretically possible for a state attorney general
- 1:34:00Speaker 7: to file charges. And that is something that he could
- 1:34:02Speaker 7: take his Fifth Amendment right. Number one and number two,
- 1:34:07Speaker 7: I think the biggest thing is it would not cover
- 1:34:11Speaker 7: any kind of false statements to Congress, and he had
- 1:34:14Speaker 7: already publicly stated a couple of times that he felt
- 1:34:17Speaker 7: that Senator Paul was trying to use his diaries, which
- 1:34:20Speaker 7: came out a couple of weeks ago, to trip him
- 1:34:22Speaker 7: up and get him to say something that was inconsistent
- 1:34:25Speaker 7: and therefore that would not be covered by the pardon
- 1:34:27Speaker 7: because it's posts. You know, the pardon stops on January nineteen,
- 1:34:31Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. So I think those are the two
- 1:34:34Speaker 7: immediate things that he's going to argue. There's the other
- 1:34:38Speaker 7: third possibility, which is this that there might be something
- 1:34:43Speaker 7: that comes out about the wuhand lab that predates the
- 1:34:46Speaker 7: twenty fourteen, which is when the when the pardon period begins.
- 1:34:52Speaker 7: So there is a that's a third option. So I mean,
- 1:34:55Speaker 7: I think that we're not done here. We're going to
- 1:34:57Speaker 7: hear more about why and how he took the I
- 1:35:00Speaker 7: don't think Senator Paul is going to let this go,
- 1:35:03Speaker 7: but there are some ways that he might be able to,
- 1:35:07Speaker 7: with a crafty lawyer and with facts we don't know
- 1:35:11Speaker 7: and that they're still sort of up in the air,
- 1:35:12Speaker 7: be able to use the fifth legally. So it's very frustrating.
- 1:35:17Speaker 7: It reduced yesterday to just really I think, almost political
- 1:35:19Speaker 7: theater more than a serious inquiry into what happened. But
- 1:35:24Speaker 7: that is something that there are some grounds where I guess,
- 1:35:27Speaker 7: at least in theory, he could take the fifth even
- 1:35:29Speaker 7: with a pardon.
- 1:35:30Speaker 4: Well, I do think it was a good opportunity which
- 1:35:32Speaker 4: obviously was used for this effect, that for the various
- 1:35:36Speaker 4: senators to bring forth all of this well documented. They
- 1:35:39Speaker 4: brought the goods with him to support what they were
- 1:35:40Speaker 4: accusing him of. Even though he wouldn't answer any questions,
- 1:35:43Speaker 4: we got a full report on all the activities criminal
- 1:35:46Speaker 4: and otherwise that he was involved with behind the scenes,
- 1:35:49Speaker 4: and also a confirmation that he literally lied to us.
- 1:35:51Speaker 4: So I think the exercise was valuable in that regard,
- 1:35:53Speaker 4: because you know, it's been quite a few years, and
- 1:35:56Speaker 4: even I had lost sight and forgot about some of
- 1:35:58Speaker 4: the egregious violations of our content institutional rights that went
- 1:36:01Speaker 4: on during that period of time. But pivoting over on
- 1:36:04Speaker 4: these state actions, I guess I was kind of curious
- 1:36:06Speaker 4: to know if I was doctor Fauci's lawyer in some
- 1:36:09Speaker 4: state AG brought an action against me because of lockdowns
- 1:36:12Speaker 4: or whatever. Can't Fauci, just say, listen, I just offered
- 1:36:15Speaker 4: the advice. I am not an elected official. I can't
- 1:36:18Speaker 4: force anybody to do anything in any given state or
- 1:36:22Speaker 4: even across the United States of America. I provided the
- 1:36:24Speaker 4: advice and governors ran with it. They didn't have to
- 1:36:27Speaker 4: listen to me. They're the ones that need to be
- 1:36:29Speaker 4: held accountable to the extent anybody needs to be accountable.
- 1:36:31Speaker 4: Is there really any possibility of going after him for
- 1:36:35Speaker 4: you know what we're talking about here this morning.
- 1:36:37Speaker 7: From that perspective, the lockdowns, I agree with you, would
- 1:36:41Speaker 7: be very, very difficult. And let me tell you, I
- 1:36:43Speaker 7: mean I thought there a couple of senators really really
- 1:36:46Speaker 7: made powerful points. I mean, the COVID changed my life,
- 1:36:49Speaker 7: I will. I mean I was one of those We
- 1:36:51Speaker 7: have one of those families where, you know, my stepmother,
- 1:36:54Speaker 7: who had been married to my dad where twenty some
- 1:36:56Speaker 7: years died alone in a hospital and my dad was
- 1:36:59Speaker 7: not allowed to go into the year because of the
- 1:37:01Speaker 7: COVID protocols. He had a heart attack, and it was
- 1:37:04Speaker 7: you know, it was a horrible thing for him and
- 1:37:06Speaker 7: for everybody involved, and it all was absolutely needless and
- 1:37:10Speaker 7: silly and stupid, but you know, and so you know,
- 1:37:14Speaker 7: those kinds of things were handed down largely at the
- 1:37:17Speaker 7: state level, you know, and you're right, people like doctor
- 1:37:20Speaker 7: Acton advising the governor Dwine at the time to bring
- 1:37:23Speaker 7: to follow the federal recommendations and impose the social distancing
- 1:37:27Speaker 7: and things of that nature, a lot of which now
- 1:37:29Speaker 7: we see was was probably worthless. But I do think
- 1:37:32Speaker 7: the one angle where a state could get at him
- 1:37:35Speaker 7: is if there if he really did lie about and
- 1:37:38Speaker 7: know about and encourage this gain of function and research,
- 1:37:41Speaker 7: you know, and you know in overseas, and knew about
- 1:37:45Speaker 7: the funding and hid the funding, and if the funding
- 1:37:48Speaker 7: was in any way compromise, as we know is sometimes
- 1:37:51Speaker 7: the case by pharmaceutical companies or even foreign companies giving
- 1:37:55Speaker 7: money to the regulators to encourage this and giving them
- 1:37:59Speaker 7: awards and kind of finding back back door ways to
- 1:38:02Speaker 7: get the money, and their judgment about what research they found.
- 1:38:07Speaker 7: You know, that is an angle where I could see
- 1:38:09Speaker 7: a state attorney general trying to make a case. I mean,
- 1:38:11Speaker 7: it's a difficult thing, but it is something that if
- 1:38:14Speaker 7: he had testified in a way that pulled the you know,
- 1:38:17Speaker 7: pulled the thread a little more yesterday, that I could
- 1:38:20Speaker 7: see someone trying to go there. But but you're right,
- 1:38:23Speaker 7: I think you know, the state the state mandates would
- 1:38:27Speaker 7: be hard to prosecute. But that is one of the
- 1:38:30Speaker 7: rationales anyway, that his lawyer used for him taking the
- 1:38:33Speaker 7: fifth all.
- 1:38:34Speaker 4: Right, and in so far as the referral for a
- 1:38:36Speaker 4: contempt vote, and I guess one of the biggest challenges
- 1:38:38Speaker 4: over in the Senate is a going to still have
- 1:38:40Speaker 4: to deal with a sixty vote threshold, the filibuster threshold,
- 1:38:43Speaker 4: and whether or not the Senate Democrats would like maybe
- 1:38:46Speaker 4: Fetterman would go ahead and vote to find him in contempt.
- 1:38:49Speaker 2: What penalty might that come with?
- 1:38:51Speaker 4: I doubt it's going to be the pound of flesh
- 1:38:52Speaker 4: that most people feel they want to exact out of fauci.
- 1:38:55Speaker 4: But what do you have any concept of what the
- 1:38:57Speaker 4: potential penalties might be should he defounding up?
- 1:39:01Speaker 7: No, we we do know. Actually the last two people
- 1:39:03Speaker 7: who are Contiguergo and Steve Bannon, both of whom were
- 1:39:10Speaker 7: just openly refused to testify. They didn't even take the fifth.
- 1:39:13Speaker 7: They refused to testify before the January sixth panel that
- 1:39:17Speaker 7: the Democratic Senate was running a few a few years ago.
- 1:39:21Speaker 7: And in both cases, you know, the cases were referred
- 1:39:25Speaker 7: to the d C. District Court and they ended up
- 1:39:27Speaker 7: serving four months in prison. So uh, you know, a
- 1:39:31Speaker 7: four month a four to six month sentence is pretty
- 1:39:33Speaker 7: typical for a contempt to Congress or or just a
- 1:39:37Speaker 7: general contempt to court and federal court, you know, for
- 1:39:40Speaker 7: refusing to participate in a processor on a recipe or
- 1:39:43Speaker 7: go to a grand jury. So uh, you know, in theory,
- 1:39:47Speaker 7: if they if they refer them, and uh, and after
- 1:39:51Speaker 7: a hearing and after a or a trial, it's found
- 1:39:54Speaker 7: that he really didn't have a good basis to assert
- 1:39:56Speaker 7: all the fifth and so forth, you know, he will
- 1:39:59Speaker 7: be looking at for six months in jail. But that said,
- 1:40:02Speaker 7: you know, his assertion of the fifth will make that murky.
- 1:40:05Speaker 2: You know, in.
- 1:40:06Speaker 7: Navarro's case, in Balan's case, they just refused to participate
- 1:40:11Speaker 7: at all, and it did honor of a subpoena to
- 1:40:14Speaker 7: appear before the panel. So had they asserted the fifth,
- 1:40:17Speaker 7: that might have been a little little little better for them,
- 1:40:20Speaker 7: but that that's not what happened. But there you know,
- 1:40:24Speaker 7: typically it's as a jail said, it's a misdemeanor, So
- 1:40:28Speaker 7: it's it's something where you're looking at four.
- 1:40:29Speaker 4: To six months last and finally before we part company,
- 1:40:32Speaker 4: Steve Goo and I can't thank you enough for your
- 1:40:33Speaker 4: analysis for us this morning. Fauci's attorney, David Shirtler, who
- 1:40:37Speaker 4: apparently makes how much money you think he makes an
- 1:40:39Speaker 4: hour about three four thousand dollars apparently with some high
- 1:40:42Speaker 4: fluid and well known criminal defense attorney. But he got
- 1:40:45Speaker 4: chucked out of the hearing because he kept trying to
- 1:40:46Speaker 4: talk and Paul kept on him. He's not recognized what
- 1:40:49Speaker 4: he was trying to do. Wasn't he was to testify,
- 1:40:52Speaker 4: in other words, provide a voice for doctor Fauchi around
- 1:40:56Speaker 4: the Fifth Amendment assertion, which Fauchi must maintain repeatedly, over
- 1:41:00Speaker 4: and over again or he ends up waiting. It wasn't
- 1:41:02Speaker 4: that some kind of a quick sort of effort on
- 1:41:05Speaker 4: his part to get testimony in when we weren't going
- 1:41:07Speaker 4: to hear any.
- 1:41:09Speaker 7: No, that's exactly right. And if you watch the whole
- 1:41:13Speaker 7: hearing later on, he then somehow, mysteriously the lawyer's prepared
- 1:41:18Speaker 7: statement that he was trying to read into the record
- 1:41:21Speaker 7: got into the hands of a Democratic senator who eventually
- 1:41:23Speaker 7: read it into the record. So yeah, it was a
- 1:41:26Speaker 7: ploy to read a prepared statement in that would have
- 1:41:29Speaker 7: been some way I think justified from taking the fifth
- 1:41:33Speaker 7: and also kind of laid out some of the key
- 1:41:35Speaker 7: facts of Fauci's way while while remaining Fauci to be silent.
- 1:41:39Speaker 7: I mean, it was a clever thing. But as I
- 1:41:42Speaker 7: understand the rules, Senate Senator Paul was well within his
- 1:41:45Speaker 7: rights to tell him no and ultimately to have him
- 1:41:48Speaker 7: ejective because he kept trying to talk. You have to
- 1:41:51Speaker 7: be recognized to talk in one of these hearings, and
- 1:41:56Speaker 7: he was not recognized, and he was not a witness.
- 1:41:58Speaker 4: And finally, on the whole waiver the Fifth Amendment, if
- 1:42:01Speaker 4: it does apply, it can be waived if you do
- 1:42:04Speaker 4: answer questions. Doesn't Fauci's opening statement constitute a waiver of
- 1:42:08Speaker 4: the Fifth Amendment in and of itself.
- 1:42:11Speaker 7: You know, that's a tough one.
- 1:42:13Speaker 2: Probably not.
- 1:42:14Speaker 7: I mean, there's some case law that says that you can,
- 1:42:16Speaker 7: you can lay down some assertions as to why you're
- 1:42:19Speaker 7: doing what you're doing, but just merely opening your mouth
- 1:42:24Speaker 7: typically doesn't wave the Fifth Amendment. I think it's got
- 1:42:27Speaker 7: to be knowing and willing and voluntary, I think is
- 1:42:30Speaker 7: the standard. So you know, probably not, But that is
- 1:42:35Speaker 7: something I could see the Justice Department pushing if money
- 1:42:39Speaker 7: is referred for possible contempt sactions.
- 1:42:43Speaker 4: Well as a part coming today Steve Goodin from Porter Right,
- 1:42:45Speaker 4: it sounds to me like the fat Lady has not
- 1:42:46Speaker 4: sung yet. We're gonna have a lot more to talk
- 1:42:48Speaker 4: about down the road, considering our potentially given where the
- 1:42:51Speaker 4: direction goes on this Fauci situation. And I will ask
- 1:42:54Speaker 4: you right now if you'd be willing to come back
- 1:42:56Speaker 4: on and talk about this further down the road, Steve Gooden,
- 1:42:59Speaker 4: it would.
- 1:42:59Speaker 7: Be my honor and privilege. I I you know, look,
- 1:43:02Speaker 7: I don't want to be nasty personally what I'm enjoying
- 1:43:05Speaker 7: watching and put through his paces here because I know,
- 1:43:08Speaker 7: just on a personal level, I think if these things
- 1:43:11Speaker 7: are true, he could end up being one of the
- 1:43:13Speaker 7: great villains of our time. Uh. And he disrupted thousands
- 1:43:17Speaker 7: of love millions of millions. So it's something that it's
- 1:43:22Speaker 7: still reverberating through our politics and ways that I don't
- 1:43:24Speaker 7: think a lot of people understand. It's affected how everybody
- 1:43:28Speaker 7: thinks about government. So I'll be I'll be tracking it
- 1:43:31Speaker 7: very closely and happy to talk with you.
- 1:43:33Speaker 2: You're good man, Steve Gooden, thank you so much for today.
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- 1:43:52Speaker 4: Brian Thomas, happy to bring back as I always am
- 1:43:55Speaker 4: from Building Blocks for Liberty dot Org, man behind the
- 1:43:58Speaker 4: Constitution boot Camps. Welcome Jim Lewis. It's good to hear
- 1:44:02Speaker 4: you back on the program. Have you back on the program, sir.
- 1:44:06Speaker 8: Great to be on your program with you. Brian, Thank you,
- 1:44:08Speaker 8: and are.
- 1:44:09Speaker 2: You still doing the Constitution boot Camps. I'd like to
- 1:44:11Speaker 2: hope you hope, so, oh yeah we are.
- 1:44:14Speaker 8: We've got our next one is on September nineteenth. We
- 1:44:18Speaker 8: just got it set up, so I don't have all
- 1:44:20Speaker 8: the specifics yet, but yeah, we're going to have the
- 1:44:24Speaker 8: next one September nineteenth. We've been doing a lot of
- 1:44:27Speaker 8: these liberty lessons. People seem to really like either short,
- 1:44:31Speaker 8: you know, two hours or less.
- 1:44:33Speaker 4: Well in this particular of course, the Constitution boot Camp
- 1:44:37Speaker 4: is the entirety of the Constitution, and you know, and
- 1:44:40Speaker 4: you get a lot of supporting documents of great classes.
- 1:44:43Speaker 4: You can get in touch with Jim at Building Blocks
- 1:44:47Speaker 4: for Liberty dot org to have one of these set
- 1:44:48Speaker 4: up to have your young people go to them. It's
- 1:44:50Speaker 4: a really important and valuable especially in this time of
- 1:44:53Speaker 4: we find ourselves in our nation's history struggling over whether
- 1:44:56Speaker 4: or not we want to move into socialism. We need
- 1:44:58Speaker 4: to really dwell on our constitution, the value of it.
- 1:45:01Speaker 4: Part of the Constitution, of course, is the fourteenth Amendment,
- 1:45:04Speaker 4: ah birthright citizenship. So this liberty at least, actually it's
- 1:45:10Speaker 4: a pair of liberty lessons. The first one is August eighth,
- 1:45:12Speaker 4: the second one is August twenty second. We'll give you
- 1:45:14Speaker 4: the details just here in a moment about where they
- 1:45:15Speaker 4: are and what time and where you sign up. But
- 1:45:17Speaker 4: the fourteenth Amendments specifically, we just had this recent Supreme
- 1:45:20Speaker 4: Court case which I know rubbed a lot of my
- 1:45:22Speaker 4: listeners the wrong way merely by being born within the
- 1:45:26Speaker 4: confines of the United States of America, even if you
- 1:45:28Speaker 4: signed up as a tourist visa to get them here
- 1:45:31Speaker 4: to come here and give birth because you're nine and
- 1:45:34Speaker 4: a half months pregnant, give birth, and then lo and behold,
- 1:45:36Speaker 4: we find out a whole bunch of members of the
- 1:45:38Speaker 4: Chinese Communist Party get on a plane after the baby's born,
- 1:45:41Speaker 4: taking their US citizenship child back over to the Chinese
- 1:45:44Speaker 4: Communist Party where they are fully indoctrinated and then capable
- 1:45:47Speaker 4: of entering the United States of America as an adult,
- 1:45:49Speaker 4: maybe even running for office because they're citizens. That's kind
- 1:45:52Speaker 4: of a that's really it rubs me the wrong way.
- 1:45:54Speaker 4: It seems strange that just by being here for a
- 1:45:57Speaker 4: moment in time you can automatically become a citizen. But
- 1:45:59Speaker 4: that so the Supreme Court said, Now, how did they
- 1:46:02Speaker 4: get it wrong, because that's what I'm reading in the
- 1:46:04Speaker 4: materials relating to your liberty lesson on the fourteenth Amendment.
- 1:46:09Speaker 8: Well, I believe they got it wrong because they kind
- 1:46:14Speaker 8: of in the Section one of the fourteenth Amendment, which
- 1:46:18Speaker 8: is kind of the birth section, it says, you know,
- 1:46:21Speaker 8: all persons born or naturalized in the United States are
- 1:46:26Speaker 8: citizens of the United States and of the state wherein
- 1:46:28Speaker 8: they reside, and they leave out that little section in
- 1:46:31Speaker 8: there it says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof or
- 1:46:36Speaker 8: if you call them on that, they'll say, well, if
- 1:46:39Speaker 8: they can be arrested, they're subject to our jurisdiction.
- 1:46:43Speaker 7: And that's not what that means.
- 1:46:47Speaker 8: You have to go back in eighteen sixty seven when
- 1:46:50Speaker 8: they're having the debates in the Senate on this, and
- 1:46:54Speaker 8: read what the guy who's introducing this amendment into the
- 1:46:58Speaker 8: Senate says about it. It changes the whole dynamic of it.
- 1:47:04Speaker 8: And you know, the Supreme Court just didn't want to
- 1:47:07Speaker 8: do that. They're relying on, you know, like the previous
- 1:47:12Speaker 8: court precisions.
- 1:47:15Speaker 7: Watch that one on.
- 1:47:18Speaker 2: Drive Me Crazy here involved the Chinese, the Chinese railroad
- 1:47:21Speaker 2: workers out west.
- 1:47:24Speaker 8: Yes, that was the case of the Wong kim arc
- 1:47:28Speaker 8: versus the United States in eighteen ninety eight.
- 1:47:33Speaker 5: So and you know they're.
- 1:47:36Speaker 8: They are interpreting very broadly. They're subjects of the jurisdiction
- 1:47:39Speaker 8: thereof number one and number two. That case wasn't really
- 1:47:44Speaker 8: about birthright citizenship. It was about getting rid of this
- 1:47:49Speaker 8: eighteen sixty two law that said that Chinese that came
- 1:47:54Speaker 8: over here could never become American citizens.
- 1:47:57Speaker 7: That's what that was about.
- 1:47:58Speaker 4: A completely different subject matter. But ever since that eighteen
- 1:48:02Speaker 4: ninety eight decision, though, the default has been that, well,
- 1:48:04Speaker 4: if you're born here, then you're a citizen, period at
- 1:48:07Speaker 4: full stop. So is it that they got the kim
- 1:48:10Speaker 4: Ark case wrong or that has been subsequently misapplied in
- 1:48:15Speaker 4: other cases relating to like for example, the whole concept
- 1:48:19Speaker 4: is birthright citizenship.
- 1:48:21Speaker 8: I think they got the kim Art case probably right,
- 1:48:25Speaker 8: but it's been misapplied big time, you know, going forward
- 1:48:30Speaker 8: and now when you look at it, the Supreme Court
- 1:48:33Speaker 8: is not supposed to be a political animal, but it is.
- 1:48:37Speaker 8: And when you look at what would have happened if
- 1:48:40Speaker 8: they would have came back and said, you know what,
- 1:48:43Speaker 8: just because you're born here doesn't make you a citizen.
- 1:48:47Speaker 8: What would happen to all of these millions of people that.
- 1:48:51Speaker 2: Have been born here illegally.
- 1:48:54Speaker 4: Well, you have a waiver or estopel reliance argument, right,
- 1:48:57Speaker 4: I mean, you can't say take something away from them
- 1:48:59Speaker 4: that they were hold they had for that period of time.
- 1:49:01Speaker 4: It's almost it's almost you can't unring the bell. But
- 1:49:05Speaker 4: on a going forward basis, you can take away that
- 1:49:07Speaker 4: reliance element from this point forward. In spite of the
- 1:49:10Speaker 4: fact that we used to hold that you could be
- 1:49:11Speaker 4: born here, the law shouldn't have ever said that. But
- 1:49:14Speaker 4: we're going to give a pass to those who were
- 1:49:16Speaker 4: told they are lawfully here, that they are in fact citizens.
- 1:49:19Speaker 4: But on a going forward basis, everybody's on notice. You
- 1:49:21Speaker 4: can't rely on those prior cases. There have to be
- 1:49:24Speaker 4: I guess other circumstances that will qualify you for citizenship.
- 1:49:29Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:49:29Speaker 8: But you know then that gets into you know, Supreme
- 1:49:32Speaker 8: Court or is creating kind of creating law?
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: True, and they can't.
- 1:49:41Speaker 8: You know, the Supreme Court cannot create law.
- 1:49:43Speaker 2: Well, okay, which which raises an interesting quandary.
- 1:49:46Speaker 4: If the Supreme Court, and we know they have before,
- 1:49:48Speaker 4: I mean Roevie Wade's the greatest illustration of legislative drafting
- 1:49:51Speaker 4: from from the bench. But if they were to say,
- 1:49:55Speaker 4: we got it wrong, that case does not or that
- 1:49:57Speaker 4: case kim Mark does not apply. The team the moment
- 1:50:00Speaker 4: does not give tourists, for example, the right to create
- 1:50:03Speaker 4: citizens just by virtue of their merely being here. If
- 1:50:06Speaker 4: that was the definitive ruling period, end of story, then
- 1:50:10Speaker 4: what the legislative branch would then be left to deal
- 1:50:13Speaker 4: with those who really aren't legally allowed to have been
- 1:50:16Speaker 4: called citizens?
- 1:50:18Speaker 7: Yep, they would have.
- 1:50:19Speaker 8: The Congress would have to then, if they wanted to,
- 1:50:24Speaker 8: you know, make some legislation up that would like you said,
- 1:50:28Speaker 8: we provide a waiver or grandfather and people who've already
- 1:50:32Speaker 8: been declared citizens and say from this point forward, we're
- 1:50:35Speaker 8: not going to do it. But it's up to the
- 1:50:37Speaker 8: legislative branch, not the judicial branch.
- 1:50:40Speaker 7: To do that.
- 1:50:41Speaker 8: And this is where we get into all this big
- 1:50:43Speaker 8: mess of we've got branches just you know, you know,
- 1:50:48Speaker 8: a usurpian power from each other all over the place,
- 1:50:50Speaker 8: and it's just it just makes it craziers. Just follow
- 1:50:54Speaker 8: the constitution, follow the founders. What was their intention? You know,
- 1:50:59Speaker 8: the founders be in Bettel's Law of Nations. That's where
- 1:51:02Speaker 8: they went to to get their definition of what is
- 1:51:05Speaker 8: citizenship right. And it's pretty simple they believe, you know,
- 1:51:12Speaker 8: Vattel basically said, if you've got to all of other citizenship,
- 1:51:16Speaker 8: and if the father's not a citizen of the country
- 1:51:18Speaker 8: wherein you were born, it's just your place of birth.
- 1:51:23Speaker 8: You know, if you're born in a foreign country, that's foreign.
- 1:51:26Speaker 8: You know, like your father's from Mexico and you're born
- 1:51:29Speaker 8: in the United States, you're just you know, born in
- 1:51:32Speaker 8: a foreign country. You are Mexican by birth. You know,
- 1:51:36Speaker 8: by a writer of birth, you are a Mexican citizen.
- 1:51:40Speaker 8: And that's what our founders believe. And when you read
- 1:51:43Speaker 8: what the writer of the fourteenth Amendment, and the guy
- 1:51:47Speaker 8: introducing it from Michigan said, they say the same thing.
- 1:51:53Speaker 4: So I guess I'm struggling in So, in order to
- 1:51:56Speaker 4: qualify as a citizen in the United States of America,
- 1:51:59Speaker 4: the parents must be citizens of the United States of America.
- 1:52:02Speaker 4: So in the case of the let's say, arbitrary random
- 1:52:04Speaker 4: Mexican nationals who come here and give birth to a child, currently,
- 1:52:07Speaker 4: that child would be an American citizen. You're saying that no,
- 1:52:10Speaker 4: fourteenth moment does not allow for that. But to become
- 1:52:12Speaker 4: an American citizen, the parents would then have to apply
- 1:52:15Speaker 4: for and become American citizens, pursuing through the law, and
- 1:52:19Speaker 4: then the child would be able to.
- 1:52:20Speaker 8: Be If the child was born after they became American
- 1:52:25Speaker 8: citizens and they he would be an America or she
- 1:52:27Speaker 8: would be an American citizen. And if the child was
- 1:52:32Speaker 8: not born to parents who are American citizens, the child
- 1:52:36Speaker 8: could then apply to become an American citizen later. But
- 1:52:40Speaker 8: just being born here gives the child no advantages.
- 1:52:43Speaker 4: Right, Well, these are the kind of things you're going
- 1:52:45Speaker 4: to be talking about in the Liberty Lesson.
- 1:52:47Speaker 8: Am I right, Jim Lewis, Yes, we're gonna kind of
- 1:52:50Speaker 8: we're gonna I'm gonna have more time.
- 1:52:52Speaker 7: I know that.
- 1:52:54Speaker 8: I'm gonna be able to lay it out for them
- 1:52:58Speaker 8: and then tie it all together, give it to them,
- 1:53:00Speaker 8: hopefully with a nice ribbon on it.
- 1:53:02Speaker 4: Ja Liis you always do that. I'm going to encourage
- 1:53:04Speaker 4: my listeners to sign up for the classes. Let's see,
- 1:53:06Speaker 4: you got one on August eighth, that's taking place at
- 1:53:08Speaker 4: Freedom Church on Cornell Road, yep and Sharonville. Yes, and
- 1:53:13Speaker 4: that's at nine thirty and at last till eleven thirty. Again,
- 1:53:16Speaker 4: as you pointed out earlier, two hour. You know, it's
- 1:53:18Speaker 4: a full blast of fourteenth Amendment concentrated in two hours.
- 1:53:21Speaker 4: You've got two hours and you should definitely take this class.
- 1:53:23Speaker 4: And then at the Springboro Public Library and Meeting Room
- 1:53:28Speaker 4: August twenty second, so there's two options there that also
- 1:53:30Speaker 4: starts at nine thirty.
- 1:53:31Speaker 2: I rounderstand.
- 1:53:33Speaker 8: Yes, we're going to do another another class up there,
- 1:53:36Speaker 8: so we can kind of cover more ground and give
- 1:53:38Speaker 8: you know, more people a chance to come hear it.
- 1:53:40Speaker 8: And we're going to go where we can go, where
- 1:53:42Speaker 8: we can get into and people will provide a place
- 1:53:45Speaker 8: for us to have a class. We will come and
- 1:53:46Speaker 8: hold a class. That's any classes are free.
- 1:53:50Speaker 2: That's a great word.
- 1:53:51Speaker 8: Classes are you know me, I love that word.
- 1:53:54Speaker 4: But you'll also do the same thing if people call
- 1:53:56Speaker 4: you up and want you to do a constitution boot camp.
- 1:53:58Speaker 4: You've been great about that. And how many of you
- 1:54:01Speaker 4: done if you recall how many of those boot camps
- 1:54:03Speaker 4: you've done over your time doing it a Building Blocks
- 1:54:06Speaker 4: for Liberty, I.
- 1:54:07Speaker 8: Don't know the exact number, but I have to say
- 1:54:09Speaker 8: it's probably somewhere around one hundred and twenty one hundred
- 1:54:13Speaker 8: and thirty boot camps.
- 1:54:15Speaker 4: You're a good man, Jim Lewis, good man for doing
- 1:54:17Speaker 4: that building blocks because they're certainly not getting this kind
- 1:54:20Speaker 4: of education in school. So check out the Liberty Lessons
- 1:54:24Speaker 4: and or the Constitution boot Camp Building Blocks for Liberty
- 1:54:27Speaker 4: dot org. Jim Lewis, take great care of you, Jim.
- 1:54:29Speaker 4: Thanks for what you do.
- 1:54:31Speaker 8: Sure registration at building Blocks for Liberty dot org. If
- 1:54:35Speaker 8: you want a register for the class, registration at building
- 1:54:39Speaker 8: Blocks for Liberty dot.
- 1:54:41Speaker 4: Org, YEP, just scroll down the first page. You'll see
- 1:54:43Speaker 4: the word events and it's right there on the top
- 1:54:45Speaker 4: right hand side. That's where you schedule. You're a register.
- 1:54:49Speaker 4: Thanks again, Jim, Lewis, I appreciate you doing this.
- 1:54:51Speaker 2: My friend.
- 1:54:54Speaker 4: Eight seventeen, did you WoT care see the talk station?
- 1:54:56Speaker 4: We got some time if you want to call. Just
- 1:54:58Speaker 4: got the phone lines opening. A mareens that she wanted
- 1:55:00Speaker 4: to call in and chime in on this.
- 1:55:01Speaker 1: Deep talk station.
- 1:55:07Speaker 2: Hey, twenty two fifty five kre.
- 1:55:08Speaker 4: CEV talk station, Bady, even a very happy one to
- 1:55:12Speaker 4: you Tech Friday with Dave Hatter tomorrow.
- 1:55:14Speaker 2: Man, we have a whole bunch to unfold with Dave
- 1:55:16Speaker 2: Hatter tomorrow all the world.
- 1:55:17Speaker 4: Everything's going on in the world of tech, which is
- 1:55:19Speaker 4: pretty much typically the case. Please listen to what Dave
- 1:55:22Speaker 4: Hatter says. It's a comment of the other day on Facebook.
- 1:55:25Speaker 4: I am a proud member of the Church of Dave Hatter,
- 1:55:27Speaker 4: and I follow what he says by way of recommendations.
- 1:55:29Speaker 4: Trant's trying to keep myself out of trouble in the
- 1:55:32Speaker 4: crazy and very dangerous world of the nefarious actors that
- 1:55:36Speaker 4: are involved in things online. Let's go to the phones.
- 1:55:39Speaker 4: Let's start with Bobby. Bobby, welcome to the program, Thanks
- 1:55:41Speaker 4: for calling.
- 1:55:42Speaker 14: Hey, good morning to you, Brian Faiths Flag family. And
- 1:55:46Speaker 14: it's handicapped Thursday.
- 1:55:47Speaker 4: Let us have it over and under on what violence
- 1:55:51Speaker 4: generally or a specific gun violence in the city of
- 1:55:54Speaker 4: Cincinnati between now and Monday.
- 1:55:58Speaker 14: Fail on the attacks if that's a good way. Hell,
- 1:56:01Speaker 14: we already had one in Avondale. Poor spectrum guy that
- 1:56:04Speaker 14: are trying to rob in.
- 1:56:06Speaker 4: The shooting happened this morning, Yeah, early this morning. Serry,
- 1:56:10Speaker 4: so so so sorry to hear about that one. Anyway,
- 1:56:14Speaker 4: what's the number for your prediction? Five and a half,
- 1:56:18Speaker 4: five point five over and under. Go ahead and make
- 1:56:20Speaker 4: your poly market bet. And let's pray it's lower than that.
- 1:56:24Speaker 7: We think it's going to be over.
- 1:56:25Speaker 4: Don't sweat it. It's going to maybe storm on Saturday.
- 1:56:28Speaker 4: That'll keep your numbers down. Perhaps Bobby appreciate it, adding
- 1:56:31Speaker 4: a little levity to a Thursday s take care of yourself,
- 1:56:33Speaker 4: My brother will talk. Maureen, welcome to the program. You
- 1:56:36Speaker 4: did get your call in. Welcome back, thanks Brian.
- 1:56:41Speaker 15: Earlier today you were mentioning the Alan Wayne Root article
- 1:56:46Speaker 15: about the connection of the of the COVID to the
- 1:56:49Speaker 15: twenty twenty election front. And I think there's also a
- 1:56:53Speaker 15: lot of other great people. Josh Reed wrote a great
- 1:56:55Speaker 15: article on X and then there's Clantestine. I don't know
- 1:56:58Speaker 15: if you follow them on x But what they're saying
- 1:57:01Speaker 15: that if the Trump administration is exposing the DNC and
- 1:57:04Speaker 15: the CCP fraud in the twenty twining election, while simultaneously
- 1:57:08Speaker 15: exposing the truth about Fauci and COVID, and it's no
- 1:57:11Speaker 15: accident that these are happening together right at the same time,
- 1:57:14Speaker 15: you know, because he had his address to the nation,
- 1:57:16Speaker 15: let you know about China and other countries involved in
- 1:57:19Speaker 15: the election, Tusk and then now we've got Fauci. And
- 1:57:22Speaker 15: so what the people are being prepared for is that
- 1:57:27Speaker 15: that this is going to come out, that this is
- 1:57:28Speaker 15: a man made virus released intentionally as part of a
- 1:57:31Speaker 15: larger plot to remove Trump from the office, and the
- 1:57:34Speaker 15: deep state predators, I call them global predators, created and
- 1:57:38Speaker 15: released the virus as a part of a regime change operation.
- 1:57:41Speaker 15: This was a contingency plan after the Russia Gate Moeller
- 1:57:44Speaker 15: plans failed, and so they have had they talk about
- 1:57:47Speaker 15: how the mainstream media was also complicit because they just
- 1:57:50Speaker 15: pushed fear and panic NonStop, which paved the way for
- 1:57:54Speaker 15: social distancing. Social distancing paved the way for emergency election
- 1:57:58Speaker 15: overhaul and the mass in ballots and the mass mail
- 1:58:01Speaker 15: in ballots, paved the way for unprecedented levels of fraud
- 1:58:04Speaker 15: and mail in ballot dumps and swing states in the
- 1:58:06Speaker 15: middle of the night, which all favored Biden. So anyway,
- 1:58:10Speaker 15: long story short, COVID, in conjunction with election f on
- 1:58:13Speaker 15: twenty twenty, is arguingly the greatest crime ever committed against humanity.
- 1:58:16Speaker 4: And they're both connected, right, And I brought that up
- 1:58:19Speaker 4: because I read about that and I thought immediately of you,
- 1:58:21Speaker 4: and you can make that argument as he does. The
- 1:58:23Speaker 4: only problem I have with his argument he points out
- 1:58:25Speaker 4: over and over and over again in his conclusions that
- 1:58:28Speaker 4: probably nobody planned for millions of people to die. But
- 1:58:31Speaker 4: the predicate for this belief that it was COVID that
- 1:58:34Speaker 4: led it was intentionally. They planned to make hundreds of
- 1:58:37Speaker 4: billions of dollars off COVID, he says, and defeat Trump,
- 1:58:39Speaker 4: steal a twenty twenty election, and then, once in control
- 1:58:42Speaker 4: of the White House, makee hundreds of billions dollars more
- 1:58:44Speaker 4: dolling out government contracts. You can't get to that desired
- 1:58:47Speaker 4: result without the millions of people dying, which resulted in
- 1:58:51Speaker 4: the declarations and the lockdowns and things. If people weren't
- 1:58:53Speaker 4: dying it wouldn't have been a global pandemic that would
- 1:58:55Speaker 4: have allowed them to do this nefarious thing.
- 1:58:58Speaker 2: So he kind of defeats the well, I'm just making
- 1:59:00Speaker 2: the point.
- 1:59:01Speaker 4: He defeats his own argument by saying over and over
- 1:59:03Speaker 4: again that they don't he doesn't believe and they really
- 1:59:06Speaker 4: intended anybody to die on this level.
- 1:59:08Speaker 15: So yeah, I don't believe that for a second.
- 1:59:11Speaker 13: Well he.
- 1:59:13Speaker 2: Feary, Maureen. He wrote the words. I'm just reading what
- 1:59:17Speaker 2: he wrote. That's all you know me. I love you, Maureen,
- 1:59:25Speaker 2: you take care.
- 1:59:25Speaker 4: I know you, and I'll talk more because these pattern
- 1:59:28Speaker 4: observations are never going to go away.
- 1:59:31Speaker 1: Deep Talk Station.
- 1:59:34Speaker 2: It's a thirty fifty five kara City Talk stations Friday Eve.
- 1:59:36Speaker 4: It's that time of week we get to hear from
- 1:59:38Speaker 4: and get the pleasure of the conversation with iHeartMedia eighty
- 1:59:41Speaker 4: as expert Jay rattlif Jay Rathlick, my friend, welcome back
- 1:59:44Speaker 4: to the program. So it's always a real pleasure to
- 1:59:46Speaker 4: have you on.
- 1:59:47Speaker 16: Telling Joe, seems like last year since the last time
- 1:59:49Speaker 16: we talked.
- 1:59:50Speaker 4: I know, but you know what, vacations are a good thing.
- 1:59:53Speaker 4: I miss talking to you when I'm on vacation. But
- 1:59:55Speaker 4: you know, the vacation is a good thing. But we'll
- 1:59:56Speaker 4: make up time today.
- 1:59:58Speaker 16: And you know what me to just send you a Hey,
- 2:00:01Speaker 16: it's Thursday, miss you text, but you're on vacation stuff. Hey,
- 2:00:04Speaker 16: I'm gonna leave me alone so we can relax.
- 2:00:06Speaker 4: Well I would have enjoyed that and appreciated that it
- 2:00:08Speaker 4: would have interrupted my relaxation. Been a reminder that by
- 2:00:12Speaker 4: the time I got your message, I just woke up
- 2:00:15Speaker 4: and it was after the morning show is over. Hey wait,
- 2:00:17Speaker 4: real quick, you know I saw a curveball, real quick.
- 2:00:20Speaker 4: I just want to find out what the hell's to
- 2:00:21Speaker 4: deal with Boeing. Apparently they took another two hundred and
- 2:00:23Speaker 4: eighty million dollars hit on their Air Force one plane order.
- 2:00:28Speaker 4: They got two of them on order, been on order
- 2:00:30Speaker 4: for years and years. As matter of fact, I think
- 2:00:32Speaker 4: they signed a contract back in twenty eighteen. They say
- 2:00:35Speaker 4: the total estimated losses on the Air Force one program
- 2:00:39Speaker 4: are currently two point eight billion dollars.
- 2:00:43Speaker 16: Yes, yes, yes, yes yes. And President Trump who just
- 2:00:46Speaker 16: said I will buy two of them from you, he
- 2:00:49Speaker 16: was the president at the time. If you give us
- 2:00:51Speaker 16: this predetermined price, Boeing said, absolutely we'll jump all over that. Well,
- 2:00:55Speaker 16: then Boeing had production delays, they had a bunch of
- 2:00:58Speaker 16: other things that happened, COVID bunch of delays, and they
- 2:01:02Speaker 16: had some other things pop up. And right now, that's
- 2:01:06Speaker 16: not gonna cost as I understand, it's us any money.
- 2:01:08Speaker 16: It's all Boeing until they get their act together, they
- 2:01:11Speaker 16: get it squared away. Yeah, they're losing money in a
- 2:01:14Speaker 16: lot of it. So of course, the last group on
- 2:01:17Speaker 16: the planet that I would want anybody to rush on
- 2:01:19Speaker 16: anything would be Boeing building Air Force one. So let's
- 2:01:24Speaker 16: just hope everything's like it's supposed to be.
- 2:01:26Speaker 4: But I guess the figure the law. I understand they
- 2:01:29Speaker 4: locked in a price early on. That's the smart play.
- 2:01:31Speaker 4: That's what smart business people do, and government rarely does
- 2:01:34Speaker 4: it that way. But they're losing at that price. Two
- 2:01:39Speaker 4: point eight billion dollars.
- 2:01:41Speaker 16: That's now, Brian, wait till they're finished and we see
- 2:01:45Speaker 16: what the total number is going to be.
- 2:01:47Speaker 4: So yeah, well, I guess I'm wondering what rare earth
- 2:01:50Speaker 4: materials are some you know, scarce supply item is in
- 2:01:55Speaker 4: in an Air Force one plane. It makes them so
- 2:01:57Speaker 4: much damn money. How can a plan how can you
- 2:01:59Speaker 4: lose to two twenty billion dollars. What's the price tag
- 2:02:02Speaker 4: on an individual plane?
- 2:02:03Speaker 16: Well, it spends on the type of aircraft. But Brian,
- 2:02:06Speaker 16: when you're talking about every single component on that aircraft
- 2:02:09Speaker 16: and the second one there's being health, it's going to
- 2:02:12Speaker 16: be higher. Where maybe they've not locked in the price
- 2:02:15Speaker 16: on specific items. The increased cost of production, delivery, everything
- 2:02:20Speaker 16: that everybody's paying now, especially with higher fuel costs and
- 2:02:23Speaker 16: things of this nature, Boeing's absorbing. It's just what they're doing,
- 2:02:27Speaker 16: and it's it's unfortunate.
- 2:02:29Speaker 14: Now.
- 2:02:29Speaker 16: Look if they're cranking out seven thirty seven, seven eighty seven,
- 2:02:32Speaker 16: seven triple sevens, that's one thing they've got the production
- 2:02:36Speaker 16: line where they can absorb some of those cost over
- 2:02:39Speaker 16: time over a large number of aircraft or units being
- 2:02:44Speaker 16: created and delivered. Here, that's not the case. You've got
- 2:02:48Speaker 16: to it's a highly specialized item, custom work if you will.
- 2:02:51Speaker 16: And yeah, President Trump knew in twenty eighteen he was
- 2:02:55Speaker 16: not going to see the aircraft during that administration, or
- 2:02:59Speaker 16: probably than that, And it's the same thing now. It's
- 2:03:01Speaker 16: going to be pushed well out. The next president or
- 2:03:04Speaker 16: president's is going to get the chance to enjoy it.
- 2:03:07Speaker 16: But it's it's kind of the way.
- 2:03:09Speaker 7: They're Boing has been doing things over the last super year.
- 2:03:12Speaker 16: They just they can't get out of their way in
- 2:03:15Speaker 16: a lot of areas, and this is just something that
- 2:03:17Speaker 16: if they could have a do over, they would, I guess, oh,
- 2:03:20Speaker 16: thank you. But we don't want anybody but Boeing building
- 2:03:23Speaker 16: air Force one. Come on, we don't. We don't want
- 2:03:25Speaker 16: anybody but American company with all the American companies connected
- 2:03:28Speaker 16: with it involved in this project, because we want it
- 2:03:31Speaker 16: to be built in America. You don't want to order
- 2:03:33Speaker 16: Air Force one from China.
- 2:03:36Speaker 4: Fair enough, Well, I think we have enough time. In
- 2:03:38Speaker 4: the remaining minute in this segment, Allegiant has apparently rolled
- 2:03:41Speaker 4: out its own first class seating option. How is this
- 2:03:44Speaker 4: different from perhaps the others?
- 2:03:46Speaker 16: Well, I mean it's great because the ultra low cost
- 2:03:48Speaker 16: carrier announced this week they're going premium. So this is
- 2:03:53Speaker 16: an airline that started as a travel agency, then they
- 2:03:55Speaker 16: started a little charter company on the side, and then
- 2:03:58Speaker 16: they became a scheduled airline and now they you know,
- 2:04:00Speaker 16: all over the country and international as far as their destinations.
- 2:04:04Speaker 16: And they're saying, look, our customers are saying they'd like
- 2:04:07Speaker 16: first class. So starting next next year twenty.
- 2:04:10Speaker 11: Seven, we're going to fix these our slash seeds in.
- 2:04:12Speaker 16: And we're going to offer it as an option about
- 2:04:14Speaker 16: eight eight of these per aircraft, and if fastngers want
- 2:04:16Speaker 16: to spend a little bit more for larger seats some
- 2:04:18Speaker 16: additional services, we're going to make it available for them.
- 2:04:21Speaker 16: That's a popular move around most of the low cost carriers.
- 2:04:24Speaker 16: We saw Frontier and others doing the same thing. And
- 2:04:28Speaker 16: you know, for those that have a desire for extra
- 2:04:30Speaker 16: leg room, you know you're talking about, you know, for
- 2:04:33Speaker 16: a little bit extra money, it's certainly something that I
- 2:04:35Speaker 16: would be interested in. Agency Allegiance a great carrier. They're
- 2:04:39Speaker 16: kind of the ones that helped open up the flood
- 2:04:44Speaker 16: gates if you will here Now, Frontier was the first,
- 2:04:47Speaker 16: and then Allegiance quickly followed followed their lead. But they've
- 2:04:50Speaker 16: expanded at Cincinnati quite a bit. And what's very very
- 2:04:54Speaker 16: interesting is when you look at the low cost carrier
- 2:04:57Speaker 16: models right now, they are at a point point where
- 2:05:00Speaker 16: more customers want to spend more money and they love
- 2:05:03Speaker 16: it because that's a higher yield or profit.
- 2:05:05Speaker 7: For a passenger.
- 2:05:06Speaker 16: So as often as many people as want those, They
- 2:05:09Speaker 16: are going to try to cram those seats in there
- 2:05:10Speaker 16: and make them available. And I'm throwing it to there
- 2:05:13Speaker 16: because I want Southwest and Frontier and Allegiance all to
- 2:05:16Speaker 16: offer that. So if I do travel them, and I
- 2:05:19Speaker 16: want you every chance I can, I've got that option
- 2:05:21Speaker 16: if I want to spend a few extra dollars, and
- 2:05:22Speaker 16: believe me, I will.
- 2:05:23Speaker 4: It makes perfect sense, especially when you're spending a few
- 2:05:26Speaker 4: extra dollars for a first class seat on a low
- 2:05:29Speaker 4: cost carrier. It's still a lower cost alternative first class
- 2:05:32Speaker 4: seat than flying on one of the major carriers, right.
- 2:05:35Speaker 16: Absolutely, And sometimes they actually slip up and say thank you,
- 2:05:38Speaker 16: so we.
- 2:05:38Speaker 4: Don't get oh wow, heaven forbid good customer service on
- 2:05:42Speaker 4: top of a.
- 2:05:43Speaker 2: Good price sitting bye.
- 2:05:44Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah for sure.
- 2:05:46Speaker 4: Well that's why they, along with Frontier apparently doing so well.
- 2:05:49Speaker 4: We got a little information about Frontier plus are you
- 2:05:51Speaker 4: kidding me? A United Delta merger?
- 2:05:54Speaker 2: More with Jay righttlift don't go away fifty five KRC.
- 2:05:57Speaker 2: Hey Gary Salvan here for show off tool reptalk station.
- 2:06:01Speaker 5: Have you ever been in the cockpit before?
- 2:06:03Speaker 4: Jay Ratler hasked a bunch of times, iHeart Media Avia
- 2:06:07Speaker 4: expert ja Ra pouring through the aviation topics for the week.
- 2:06:10Speaker 4: And since you had met in the context of a
- 2:06:12Speaker 4: low cost carrier Allegiant first class seats, you mentioned Frontier.
- 2:06:17Speaker 4: They apparently are doing really well. What's the story on
- 2:06:19Speaker 4: our quarterly revenue report.
- 2:06:22Speaker 16: Well, we knew that Frontier had spent like fifty percent
- 2:06:26Speaker 16: more in fuel this year compared to the same period
- 2:06:30Speaker 16: last year, and Wall Street knew that they would be
- 2:06:33Speaker 16: coming out with the loss, and they figured when Frontier
- 2:06:36Speaker 16: repritted their quarterly numbers they would be looking at a
- 2:06:40Speaker 16: loss of about forty eight cents per share. Well, Frontier
- 2:06:43Speaker 16: came out and said, look, our revenue was one point
- 2:06:45Speaker 16: to eight billion, considerably more than was expected. They did
- 2:06:49Speaker 16: have a loss, but not forty eight cents to share,
- 2:06:51Speaker 16: but ten sins.
- 2:06:53Speaker 2: Oh wow.
- 2:06:54Speaker 16: Now, a lot of this had to do with some
- 2:06:56Speaker 16: higher fares, and you know, some of it had to
- 2:07:00Speaker 16: do yes, with Spirit Airlines no longer being there and
- 2:07:03Speaker 16: them getting a few extra customers. But look, Frontier and
- 2:07:06Speaker 16: a lot of others are making the right kinds of adjustments.
- 2:07:09Speaker 16: And even though the CEOs of Delta United, especially United,
- 2:07:13Speaker 16: will kind of make fun of low cost carriers saying,
- 2:07:16Speaker 16: look at some broken business model, just look at Spirit.
- 2:07:19Speaker 16: I totally disagree, because when you have the opportunity, as
- 2:07:23Speaker 16: these carriers do, of offering the premium seats is going
- 2:07:26Speaker 16: to increase their revenue flow and provide a higher yield
- 2:07:30Speaker 16: for passenger or a profit. What you're going to find
- 2:07:33Speaker 16: out is that passengers are going to respond, They're going
- 2:07:36Speaker 16: to make more money, have a very loyal following, and
- 2:07:40Speaker 16: this progression to higher revenue and profit numbers are going
- 2:07:44Speaker 16: to continue once fuel prices start to subside a bit
- 2:07:48Speaker 16: consistently over an extended period of time. This premium seat
- 2:07:52Speaker 16: type of thing that Southwest has, let's say where they
- 2:07:55Speaker 16: have got the economy plus seat, they'll be throwing in
- 2:07:58Speaker 16: some first class seat assigned seats. That's a great move
- 2:08:03Speaker 16: for them. That's going to generate a great, great deal
- 2:08:05Speaker 16: of money. Frontier doing the same thing here. We talked
- 2:08:08Speaker 16: about Allegian coming out with first class fairs. It's going
- 2:08:12Speaker 16: to help them as well. So yeah, Frontier really caught
- 2:08:15Speaker 16: a lot of the people's attention this week, and rightfully so,
- 2:08:19Speaker 16: because they're doing a lot better than expected.
- 2:08:21Speaker 4: Do you expect more, I mean, an expansion of these
- 2:08:24Speaker 4: lower cost carriers. I mean it's always it's one thing
- 2:08:27Speaker 4: to have them out in the world, but it's another
- 2:08:28Speaker 4: thing to actually get a flight on one. Because I know,
- 2:08:31Speaker 4: you remember the old days at CVG, you had no competition.
- 2:08:34Speaker 4: It was the worst airline airport in the world to
- 2:08:36Speaker 4: fly in and out of because it was so damn expensive.
- 2:08:38Speaker 2: For lack of competition.
- 2:08:39Speaker 16: Yeah, and it showed because of how high affairs were.
- 2:08:44Speaker 16: Now in the list of the top hundred airports we do,
- 2:08:47Speaker 16: we barely make that list because the fairs are so cheap.
- 2:08:50Speaker 16: Look when you can go around trip to Florida for
- 2:08:53Speaker 16: you know, in some instances one hundred dollars one hundred
- 2:08:55Speaker 16: and fifty whatever might happen to be, that's insane.
- 2:08:58Speaker 14: And that's great.
- 2:08:59Speaker 16: But as far as creating a new low cost carrier,
- 2:09:03Speaker 16: that's tough. It really is difficult because you can talk
- 2:09:06Speaker 16: to people and you could they would say, you know, Jay,
- 2:09:09Speaker 16: if some carrier would come along and just provide a
- 2:09:12Speaker 16: little bit better service, I would be willing to pay
- 2:09:14Speaker 16: extra money. Now I used to be of the mindset
- 2:09:18Speaker 16: I believe that, but I saw so many carriers that
- 2:09:21Speaker 16: came along that offered better service at a slightly higher fare,
- 2:09:25Speaker 16: and nobody flew them because when they came down to
- 2:09:28Speaker 16: my family of five, well, Jay, I'd have to spend
- 2:09:30Speaker 16: extra two hundred and seventy five dollars for my family
- 2:09:32Speaker 16: and I'd if somebody provide. Yeah, I know, but it
- 2:09:38Speaker 16: comes down to you know, economics and blah blah blah. Yeah,
- 2:09:41Speaker 16: it comes down to print. It's like in Europe when
- 2:09:44Speaker 16: they pulled individuals saying would you be in favor of
- 2:09:47Speaker 16: a green tax where you could pay more to fly
- 2:09:50Speaker 16: to offset the carbon footprint of aviation, it was like
- 2:09:54Speaker 16: seventy almost eighty percent. Sad absolutely so then they made
- 2:09:58Speaker 16: it voluntary the next year passengers to do that and
- 2:10:02Speaker 16: the actual numbers was like four percent. So what people
- 2:10:05Speaker 16: say versus what they do, you and I both know
- 2:10:09Speaker 16: they are miles apart.
- 2:10:12Speaker 4: The reality of the actual dollar figure is what is
- 2:10:15Speaker 4: going to determine in the log ride. You know, to
- 2:10:17Speaker 4: save twitter to fifty bucks, I can forego the please
- 2:10:20Speaker 4: and thank you, Oh I'm.
- 2:10:22Speaker 16: To it will just endure it. And it's like going
- 2:10:25Speaker 16: to the dentist.
- 2:10:25Speaker 6: You know, I know I got to do it.
- 2:10:27Speaker 16: And you know, for some people, they have to travel
- 2:10:29Speaker 16: because it's the worst day or week of their life
- 2:10:32Speaker 16: where they've lost a loved one or they've so you know,
- 2:10:36Speaker 16: they're going to jump on the airplane, pay what they've
- 2:10:38Speaker 16: got to go and get there. Sometimes you're you're having
- 2:10:41Speaker 16: vacation and having fun and other types of things, and
- 2:10:43Speaker 16: sometimes it's for business. But but look, the bottom line
- 2:10:46Speaker 16: is we've always talked about how airlines in the United
- 2:10:49Speaker 16: States are not about service, They're about making money. And
- 2:10:52Speaker 16: that's why when the surveys come out on the top
- 2:10:54Speaker 16: you know, customer service airlines of the world, there's no
- 2:10:58Speaker 16: US carrier that comes close to the top ten ever
- 2:11:01Speaker 16: because they treat us like crap, and we keep coming
- 2:11:04Speaker 16: back so as we do, no incentive for him to
- 2:11:06Speaker 16: ever change the way that they treat us.
- 2:11:08Speaker 4: All right, well, don't go away, because if if United
- 2:11:11Speaker 4: in Delta actually wanted to merge, would anybody approve it?
- 2:11:13Speaker 4: But the idea of the merging that comes out of
- 2:11:16Speaker 4: left field for me, But that apparently that might that
- 2:11:18Speaker 4: actually was discussed. Plus another close call and maybe a
- 2:11:21Speaker 4: hub delay report more with Jay rat left after these
- 2:11:24Speaker 4: brief words fifty five KRC gas price.
- 2:11:27Speaker 1: City's gross orc he talks station.
- 2:11:31Speaker 4: Hey forty nine if if you have KCD talk station,
- 2:11:34Speaker 4: trying to make it a happy Thursday to tomorrow Tech
- 2:11:37Speaker 4: Friday with Dave Hatter always looking out for our best interest.
- 2:11:40Speaker 4: In the meantime, I heard media aviation expert Jay A
- 2:11:42Speaker 4: Ratlib with one more segment. I can't believe the that
- 2:11:45Speaker 4: United approached Delta about a merger. First off, I got
- 2:11:49Speaker 4: a question whether the government would ever allow it, and
- 2:11:51Speaker 4: that's that question aside it. I obviously it didn't happen, Jay,
- 2:11:55Speaker 4: But what's the backstory.
- 2:11:56Speaker 7: On this one?
- 2:11:57Speaker 16: Well, we're just finding out that a report from the
- 2:12:00Speaker 16: Wall Street Journal said that the officials from United reached
- 2:12:04Speaker 16: out to Delta last year and said, what would you
- 2:12:06Speaker 16: think about a merger? And keep in mind, you know
- 2:12:10Speaker 16: when you talk about the largest airlines on the planet,
- 2:12:13Speaker 16: you've got who flies the most passengers, Well, that's American.
- 2:12:16Speaker 16: But I look at the available seat miles as far
- 2:12:19Speaker 16: as you know, the fleet size, their capacity, that's how
- 2:12:21Speaker 16: I rank them. United's number one in the world, Delta's
- 2:12:24Speaker 16: number two. So had this been explored, you're talking about
- 2:12:28Speaker 16: the top two airlines on the planet coming together to
- 2:12:32Speaker 16: create one. Now, Delta apparently said they weren't interested and
- 2:12:37Speaker 16: that's probably the case because right now, Delta is the
- 2:12:40Speaker 16: most profitable airline flying right now, and they're making a
- 2:12:43Speaker 16: great deal of money. United is all about global dominance,
- 2:12:46Speaker 16: and would that would make them a behemance. I mean,
- 2:12:50Speaker 16: they would be I don't want to say unstoppable in business,
- 2:12:53Speaker 16: but that would be the case. Now your previous question
- 2:12:56Speaker 16: about would it be allowed if this were the Biden administration,
- 2:12:59Speaker 16: I'd say absolutely, naber. The Trump administration might allow it
- 2:13:05Speaker 16: because Trump's very business, He's very pro pro airline, and
- 2:13:09Speaker 16: far too often the airlines had the ability to get
- 2:13:13Speaker 16: what they want. And even though I think that, I
- 2:13:16Speaker 16: don't think, I know that it would be horrific for
- 2:13:18Speaker 16: consumers because if you're combining the number one and number two,
- 2:13:21Speaker 16: you're talking about less competition and a lot of markets.
- 2:13:24Speaker 16: You're talking about fewer seats around the world, and anytime
- 2:13:28Speaker 16: we've got the fewer seats, we have a resulting higher fare.
- 2:13:31Speaker 16: That's what would take place. So I'm glad it went nowhere.
- 2:13:35Speaker 16: Of course, United made news a couple of months ago
- 2:13:37Speaker 16: when you and I were talking about them, kind of
- 2:13:39Speaker 16: floating around the idea, you know, maybe we'll merge with
- 2:13:42Speaker 16: American and that didn't go anywhere, because even American even
- 2:13:45Speaker 16: though they're kind of hurting in a lot of ways
- 2:13:48Speaker 16: outwardly said no. I think behind closed doors they were like,
- 2:13:51Speaker 16: you know, this might not be a bad idea, but
- 2:13:53Speaker 16: it didn't go anywhere. I know, the shareholders certainly would
- 2:13:57Speaker 16: have loved that to take place, and I said that
- 2:14:00Speaker 16: one would have been allowed as well. Sadly, what happened
- 2:14:03Speaker 16: was after the Deregulation Act of nineteen seventy eight, we
- 2:14:06Speaker 16: had this influx of a lot of low cost carriers
- 2:14:10Speaker 16: that came in that forced these larger carriers to compete with,
- 2:14:14Speaker 16: and the pan Ams and the TWA and the branfs
- 2:14:17Speaker 16: had a really hard time competing with a lot of
- 2:14:19Speaker 16: these low costs startup not here very long carriers. And
- 2:14:24Speaker 16: what happened, Brian, we saw fewer carriers as we went along,
- 2:14:28Speaker 16: and I remember back in the eighties and of the
- 2:14:29Speaker 16: nineties some people saying, you know, Jay and ten twenty years,
- 2:14:32Speaker 16: we're only going to have you know, six seven main airlines.
- 2:14:34Speaker 16: A lot of these smaller carriers are no longer going
- 2:14:37Speaker 16: to be around. I really dismissed it at the time,
- 2:14:41Speaker 16: but the more I see us moving into this trajectory,
- 2:14:44Speaker 16: the more I see the fact that we will see
- 2:14:46Speaker 16: fewer and fewer airlines, I hope not. That's why I
- 2:14:48Speaker 16: keep preaching that we've got to support these low cost
- 2:14:51Speaker 16: carriers because they're the ones that keep the loafares at
- 2:14:54Speaker 16: Cincinnati and other airports. We've got to be able to
- 2:14:58Speaker 16: continue to support them. And I have so many people
- 2:15:00Speaker 16: that'll say, well, I want my miles on United, I
- 2:15:03Speaker 16: want my miles on Delta. The reality is, and I
- 2:15:06Speaker 16: asked him this, how often do you use those miles right? Well,
- 2:15:11Speaker 16: not that much and why is that a determining factor here?
- 2:15:14Speaker 16: So now, that to me is and a lot of
- 2:15:17Speaker 16: times you have a low cost carrier going to a
- 2:15:18Speaker 16: market somewhere in the country and I'll be on that
- 2:15:21Speaker 16: radio station and three months later they're gone and they'll say,
- 2:15:26Speaker 16: I can't believe they left us, And I said, I
- 2:15:27Speaker 16: can't believe you're surprised because you didn't support them. They're
- 2:15:30Speaker 16: only going to be here if you support them. And
- 2:15:32Speaker 16: when you see Allegiant in Frontier and Southwest and others
- 2:15:36Speaker 16: coming in here, you see nothing but growth. And the
- 2:15:40Speaker 16: reason the growth is because people in this area are
- 2:15:42Speaker 16: flocking to Cincinnati to take advantage of those low faars
- 2:15:46Speaker 16: and I love that. And that's why when Frontier came
- 2:15:49Speaker 16: here moving their one flight to day from Dayton to
- 2:15:51Speaker 16: Denver down to here, and people in the industry thought,
- 2:15:53Speaker 16: what are you doing. Cincinnati is where low cost carriers
- 2:15:56Speaker 16: go to die. The whole thing was we've got to
- 2:15:58Speaker 16: support them otherwise they're not going to be here for
- 2:16:01Speaker 16: very long. And boy does the community ever respond. And
- 2:16:04Speaker 16: look at all the other low cost carriers that came
- 2:16:07Speaker 16: flying into the airport to take advantage of this increase
- 2:16:11Speaker 16: and the number of people that want to fly. Look.
- 2:16:13Speaker 16: Southwest uprooted their entire operation from Dayton and came to
- 2:16:16Speaker 16: Cincinnati and has grown from here. That's because of what
- 2:16:20Speaker 16: we've been able to do. And I could be more
- 2:16:21Speaker 16: proud of the people that are here a man.
- 2:16:23Speaker 4: And that's a magnet for businesses to come to since say, oh,
- 2:16:26Speaker 4: look at the availability of all of these low cost
- 2:16:29Speaker 4: flights in and out of CVG. That's a benefit to us,
- 2:16:31Speaker 4: our company and everybody or else. So little marketing tool.
- 2:16:34Speaker 16: Every CEO that is looking at moving their company, one
- 2:16:37Speaker 16: of the things they look at is how quickly can
- 2:16:39Speaker 16: we get our customers and our sales team in and out.
- 2:16:42Speaker 16: And if you've got an economic engine like an airport
- 2:16:45Speaker 16: with a lot of different operations, dozens and dozens and
- 2:16:48Speaker 16: dozens and dozens of NonStop destinations, that's attractive. That's one
- 2:16:53Speaker 16: of the reasons that we see the economic impact of
- 2:16:56Speaker 16: Cincinnati as it.
- 2:16:58Speaker 4: Continues to grow lovely as we always do. Let's end
- 2:17:01Speaker 4: on hub delays. How's it looking out there for travel?
- 2:17:03Speaker 16: New York, Boston, Probably Boston more than the other. Those
- 2:17:07Speaker 16: two are going to be the only problem children of
- 2:17:08Speaker 16: the day unless Tobeki Canvas, but they don't count. So
- 2:17:11Speaker 16: all in all, today should be a pretty good day
- 2:17:13Speaker 16: to travel.
- 2:17:14Speaker 2: Best of health and love,