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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the fifth of May, just
- 0:13Speaker 1: after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your
- 0:15Speaker 1: host Brian Derish, delighted to have with me in the studio.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Diane Rasmussen mcaddie Hello, Diane.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Hi.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Brian and Ben Rubin will be joining us from studio too,
- 0:27Speaker 1: So a little bit of a change around today. But
- 0:30Speaker 1: welcome to UK column News. And of course today is
- 0:34Speaker 1: the bank holiday, so thank you very much for joining
- 0:37Speaker 1: us today. Well, we've got a lot to report, but
- 0:40Speaker 1: we're going to start off with recognizing the good work
- 0:44Speaker 1: of the Reform Party. So let's just have a look
- 0:48Speaker 1: at Reform's website and of course this is the key thing.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Become a member joined the UK's faltest growing political movement.
- 0:58Speaker 1: And we just ask a question and because is Farage
- 1:02Speaker 1: pictured here with arms raised, is he going to be
- 1:06Speaker 1: the savior? Well, first of all, I want to say
- 1:09Speaker 1: thank you very much to all the people that got out,
- 1:12Speaker 1: who worked and of course to take some six hundred
- 1:16Speaker 1: and seventy seven seats that that was a very good
- 1:22Speaker 1: effort by the Reform Party. So credit where it's due.
- 1:26Speaker 1: We have some questions to ask and some of those
- 1:28Speaker 1: questions may possibly ruffle some feathers, but we think this
- 1:33Speaker 1: absolutely has to be done if the real issues taking
- 1:37Speaker 1: place in UK are going to be dealt with. So
- 1:41Speaker 1: let's just have a look at what's been reported in
- 1:45Speaker 1: the press. So the Telegraph here Tory Council swept away
- 1:49Speaker 1: by reform surge, So a pretty powerful headline there. I'm
- 1:55Speaker 1: going to say to the audience, does this represent opportunities?
- 1:59Speaker 1: Does it represent threats? And I think there's a little
- 2:03Speaker 1: bit of both, which we'll get into. But here was
- 2:06Speaker 1: a bit from the Times, John Curtis reforms by election
- 2:10Speaker 1: win outstrips anything UKIP achieved. And I want to put
- 2:16Speaker 1: a little caveat on that because John Curtis talks about
- 2:19Speaker 1: Farrage being a political disruptor, and of course he's talking
- 2:24Speaker 1: in terms of Farrage's activity amongst the bigger established parties,
- 2:31Speaker 1: the Conservatives and Labor, but we also need to remember
- 2:34Speaker 1: that Farrage has disrupted his own party in the past,
- 2:38Speaker 1: and he also abandoned it what many people at the
- 2:42Speaker 1: time thought was a critical point. So I'm going to
- 2:47Speaker 1: remind the audience that I had an interview with Joe
- 2:50Speaker 1: West a little while ago. He'd resigned from Reform UK
- 2:55Speaker 1: and in the dialogue we had a very interesting chat
- 2:59Speaker 1: about my experiences in UKIP going back quite a few
- 3:04Speaker 1: years and his experiences coming up to twenty twenty five
- 3:09Speaker 1: in Reform UK. You can find that interview on the
- 3:14Speaker 1: UK column website, Nigel Frage and the destructive toryization of
- 3:19Speaker 1: Reform UK. But the key part of the discussion was this,
- 3:24Speaker 1: we saw similarities between what happened with Frage in UKIP
- 3:30Speaker 1: and what was happening in Reform in twenty twenty five.
- 3:35Speaker 1: So we've got rousing speeches, we've got authoritarian control where
- 3:40Speaker 1: Farrage is protected by a circle of appointees. We've got
- 3:44Speaker 1: suppression of successful initiatives by party activists, and the end
- 3:49Speaker 1: result is a party led into a col desac and
- 3:53Speaker 1: ultimately a failure to achieve the political success its members
- 3:58Speaker 1: are desperate to achieve. Now, I'm going to stress very
- 4:02Speaker 1: strongly here that I recognize the immense good work of
- 4:06Speaker 1: the Reform soldiers who got out, did the work, did
- 4:10Speaker 1: the canvassing to get elected. They deserve the recognition for
- 4:15Speaker 1: the really outstanding results they've achieved. I'm gently putting out
- 4:19Speaker 1: a little bit of a warning that we saw exactly
- 4:22Speaker 1: that situation with UKIP many years ago, and then what
- 4:26Speaker 1: happened was that the leadership of the party failed to
- 4:31Speaker 1: follow up on the success of the people who'd walked
- 4:35Speaker 1: the streets and convince voters to vote for them. So
- 4:40Speaker 1: just think about that, and I'll be coming back onto
- 4:42Speaker 1: this subject in just a moment. But the other thing
- 4:45Speaker 1: that we've got happening in uk at the moment is
- 4:48Speaker 1: a mixture of history and propaganda. And I picked up
- 4:52Speaker 1: here from the Ministry at Defense Twitter their ex site.
- 4:57Speaker 1: It says the cenotaph stands draped in flags as it
- 5:00Speaker 1: did on V Day nineteen forty five. Today we paid
- 5:04Speaker 1: tribute to the greatest generation whose courage secured the freedom
- 5:08Speaker 1: and prosperity our armed forces protect today. Well, if we
- 5:13Speaker 1: add a bit, there was another tweet and it can't
- 5:17Speaker 1: calmly announce that armed forces of Ukraine would be joining
- 5:21Speaker 1: this V Day parade. Now, a number of the UK
- 5:25Speaker 1: column audience contacted me because they were the individuals were
- 5:29Speaker 1: actually very very upset about this, because, of course, if
- 5:34Speaker 1: we know our history, the overwhelming effort of Ukraine was
- 5:38Speaker 1: to support the Nazis, and yet here they are to
- 5:42Speaker 1: join our parade as if none of these things had
- 5:47Speaker 1: taken place. But if the Ukrainians are one issue, then
- 5:52Speaker 1: what happened was the Ministry of Defense went on to
- 5:56Speaker 1: promote this lady and no disrespect to her. Frank's a
- 6:00Speaker 1: Jewish refugee, she escaped from the Nazis, came to UK,
- 6:06Speaker 1: worked as an army lorry driver. But she is given recognition.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Ukrainians are given recognition. It's almost as if the indigenous
- 6:15Speaker 1: people of UK wiped off the Ministry of Defense map.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Now why should this be happening. This is where we
- 6:23Speaker 1: need to get deeper into politics than I've seen Nigel
- 6:27Speaker 1: Frage go in many years. And let's focus on the
- 6:32Speaker 1: change agent that is Keir Starmer. And my suggestion to
- 6:36Speaker 1: the audience today is that he is at his work
- 6:40Speaker 1: destroying UK from inside. He claims to be securing Britain's future.
- 6:45Speaker 1: But let's have a look at what's been happening. Well,
- 6:48Speaker 1: of course, the first thing is this extraordinary one hundred
- 6:51Speaker 1: year packed with Ukraine, not voted on in Parliament, simply
- 6:56Speaker 1: announced certainly to the public as a fate, a complete
- 7:01Speaker 1: We have no idea what the background is of the
- 7:04Speaker 1: Ukrainian politicians who've been drawn into this. Are they extreme
- 7:09Speaker 1: right wing? We have no way of knowing. And alongside this,
- 7:13Speaker 1: of course we've got admittedly started by the Conservatives, but
- 7:17Speaker 1: we've got a memorandum of understanding drawing the UK and
- 7:22Speaker 1: Israel closer together. And this is not only for trade
- 7:25Speaker 1: and industry, of course, it's for intelligence services and the military. Again,
- 7:31Speaker 1: the UK public simply not consulted in what was taking place.
- 7:36Speaker 1: And now we see the final betrayal from Keir Starmer,
- 7:40Speaker 1: in particular because as UK column has warned over many years,
- 7:45Speaker 1: Brexit would be done without the exit. We would never
- 7:49Speaker 1: fully leave the European Union, and we say today we
- 7:54Speaker 1: told you so. As now we get the mainstream media
- 7:57Speaker 1: reports that Starmer is betraying UK by his back door
- 8:03Speaker 1: deals with the EU, and that also includes this military
- 8:09Speaker 1: grouping up. But of course we shouldn't be surprised because
- 8:12Speaker 1: Keir Starmer cormly announced to the BBC that between Westminster
- 8:17Speaker 1: and Davos, he would choose Davos every time. And let's
- 8:22Speaker 1: bring in over here the fact that Starmer has said
- 8:26Speaker 1: that he's Prime Minister to achieve change in the UK
- 8:30Speaker 1: and our challenge to Nigel Frage is when will you
- 8:34Speaker 1: start talking about the real danger of Keir Starmer's subversive
- 8:39Speaker 1: change to UK. So let's just bring this down. Will
- 8:45Speaker 1: Reform actually grip these real issues? We will wait to see,
- 8:50Speaker 1: But of course the Labor Party itself has stressed that
- 8:54Speaker 1: it's there to change the UK. It doesn't want to
- 8:57Speaker 1: tell us how, but it's constantly saying change and more change,
- 9:02Speaker 1: and constant change is revolution. We're going to ask again,
- 9:07Speaker 1: will Reform grip these issues and talk about them in
- 9:11Speaker 1: the frank way that UK column is doing so. And
- 9:14Speaker 1: also we want to know whether Reform is going to
- 9:17Speaker 1: grip the issue of people who are connected with the Fabians,
- 9:21Speaker 1: and of course Tony Blair as a Fabian master that's
- 9:25Speaker 1: my term, and Keir Starmer as the mere student are
- 9:31Speaker 1: areas that. Of course, we have many questions as to
- 9:35Speaker 1: what is the power of this Fabian organization and what
- 9:38Speaker 1: are the changes that it wants for UK. Well, we
- 9:42Speaker 1: can see as we look at the headlines today that
- 9:46Speaker 1: immigration and migration absolutely to the foe. But as UK
- 9:51Speaker 1: column is warned and warned, this immigration is not the
- 9:56Speaker 1: tiny numbers coming in in rubber boats. It is the thousand,
- 10:01Speaker 1: some six hundred thousand Ukrainians last year alone, who are
- 10:05Speaker 1: invited into the country by the government. They don't fight
- 10:09Speaker 1: their way ashore. So these are people being invited into
- 10:13Speaker 1: the country by our political masters, and the propaganda around
- 10:20Speaker 1: relatively tiny numbers coming in in the boats is simply
- 10:24Speaker 1: the side show. So our challenge to Nigel Franches again,
- 10:29Speaker 1: will Reform really grip these issues of migration and what
- 10:34Speaker 1: the true figures are and which political individuals are driving it. Now,
- 10:40Speaker 1: if we have a look at the headlines of the paper,
- 10:43Speaker 1: I've just decided to choose a couple here, We're going
- 10:47Speaker 1: to say what will reform do in the media propaganda pond.
- 10:51Speaker 1: So if you have a look at the Times, it's
- 10:53Speaker 1: almost difficult to see their report on reform. But of
- 10:57Speaker 1: course Times is attacking the reform party, fight off reform
- 11:02Speaker 1: with higher taxes and spending. The Prime Minister is told
- 11:06Speaker 1: we've then got a big headline EU blocks efforts to
- 11:11Speaker 1: curb the flow of migrants. Now, remember they're talking about
- 11:15Speaker 1: rubber boats, they're not talking about the true statistics on
- 11:19Speaker 1: massive migration of people invited into the country. And if
- 11:23Speaker 1: I just bring the telegraph up here of course we've
- 11:27Speaker 1: got a mixture of fear, imminence, suspected Iran terror, raid foiled.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Of course we have absolutely no evidence to support that headline.
- 11:38Speaker 1: But this is put in juxtaposition with the Beckhams. What
- 11:43Speaker 1: relevance they have to UK? I have absolutely no idea.
- 11:47Speaker 1: And then if you look at the very bottom of
- 11:49Speaker 1: that article on the right, it says that Facebook is
- 11:53Speaker 1: putting children's lives in danger, says security chiefs. And again
- 11:58Speaker 1: we're going to ask the key question, will reform grip
- 12:02Speaker 1: these issues and talk about them properly. On that note, Ben,
- 12:08Speaker 1: I think we'll bring you in. And of course you've
- 12:11Speaker 1: been warning for some considerable time about the powers of
- 12:15Speaker 1: these non government organizations that are clearly grooming and training
- 12:19Speaker 1: our politicians to what we can only describe as the
- 12:24Speaker 1: rules based international system. What have you got for us today?
- 12:31Speaker 3: Thanks Brian, Thanks Diane, Hello everybody, Like Plymouth Argyle losing
- 12:38Speaker 3: to Leeds, I have been relegated today to Studio two
- 12:43Speaker 3: by an ascendant Northern Champion in the shape of Diane
- 12:46Speaker 3: Rasmus and Macaddies. So congratulations for taking the top spot
- 12:51Speaker 3: in the studio today. I should also just say that's
- 12:54Speaker 3: the last time I will ever do a football reference,
- 12:56Speaker 3: by the way, So just putting it out there, and
- 13:00Speaker 3: I'd also just like to say that was a fascinating
- 13:03Speaker 3: opening segment, Brian, and I think what's particularly interesting is
- 13:06Speaker 3: that we now no longer have a conservative party in
- 13:09Speaker 3: this country, and reform is really just another way of
- 13:12Speaker 3: saying change, isn't it? Anyway? Moving on, let's kick off
- 13:17Speaker 3: with my favorite quote from all Well. Power is in
- 13:19Speaker 3: tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again
- 13:23Speaker 3: in shapes of your own choosing. We're going to talk
- 13:26Speaker 3: about nudging and actually what happens beyond nudging. I'm going
- 13:30Speaker 3: to introduce you to this organization, which is the Behavioral
- 13:35Speaker 3: Public Policy a journal. This is an online journal, an
- 13:41Speaker 3: academic journal hosted by Cambridge University and it is edited by,
- 13:48Speaker 3: amongst others, this gentleman, that is Professor cass R. Sunstein
- 13:52Speaker 3: from Harvard, who essentially invented nudging, the behavior and insights
- 13:58Speaker 3: techniques that are used on an increasing basis to coerce
- 14:03Speaker 3: unsuspecting civilian populations into doing things that they wouldn't normally do.
- 14:07Speaker 3: That's how the stuff is being deployed across the whole system.
- 14:12Speaker 3: And actually, as I said in the intro, we're going
- 14:15Speaker 3: beyond nudging now, right. So the BPP issued this report
- 14:20Speaker 3: on the fifteenth of April, and a bunch of people
- 14:24Speaker 3: who you really don't want to have these kinds of
- 14:26Speaker 3: tools in their position are getting extremely excited now about
- 14:31Speaker 3: the idea that we're moving from nudging to boosting, so
- 14:35Speaker 3: empowering behavior change to address global challenges. This is the
- 14:40Speaker 3: shiny new toy that these people have got their hands on.
- 14:42Speaker 3: They're dig into. What that actually means is have a
- 14:45Speaker 3: little look at the report. This is from the abstract
- 14:48Speaker 3: in the intro. You should go read this. It's only
- 14:50Speaker 3: about ten pages. It's worthwhile understanding what's going on here.
- 14:54Speaker 3: I'll just summarize some stuff, but essentially, the COVID nineteen
- 14:57Speaker 3: pandemic provided a start for mine that societies will struggle
- 15:01Speaker 3: to address global challenges unless they are able to change
- 15:06Speaker 3: behavior at scale. Societies need to change behavior at scale.
- 15:11Speaker 3: The widely adopted at nudge approach epitomizes an individualistic deficit
- 15:17Speaker 3: model of human cognition and motivation that leverages or overcomes
- 15:21Speaker 3: people's weaknesses and biases to get them to do things
- 15:25Speaker 3: they would otherwise not, and this is about nudging people
- 15:30Speaker 3: into new types of behaviors. And what the team behind
- 15:34Speaker 3: this is saying is that, by contrast, we argue that
- 15:37Speaker 3: tackling the challenges facing humanity requires a collective capacity building approach,
- 15:43Speaker 3: one that boosts the competencies, opportunities and motivations of individuals
- 15:47Speaker 3: to act together. All right, we're going beyond nudging and
- 15:51Speaker 3: we're going to reshape humanity ultimately towards collective action in
- 15:56Speaker 3: order to address what they describe as global challenges. Right,
- 16:00Speaker 3: and very importantly, they're really reinforcing at the outset that
- 16:04Speaker 3: the COVID nineteen pandemic was one of those global challenges
- 16:09Speaker 3: and a good example of how nudge was used in
- 16:11Speaker 3: a responsible way. And that's not really surprising when you
- 16:14Speaker 3: look at who wrote the report because two of the people,
- 16:18Speaker 3: two of the four authors are here. This is Robert
- 16:20Speaker 3: West from UCL Susan Minshey now from UCL, both from
- 16:24Speaker 3: the Behavior Change the Center for Behavior Change at UCL.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Names that will be familiar to UK column viewers because
- 16:31Speaker 3: both of these individuals, Susan Minshey in particular, was intimately
- 16:35Speaker 3: involved in advising the UK government through the COVID scenario
- 16:39Speaker 3: as members of sage and Spybee and ramping up the
- 16:43Speaker 3: terror in the population in order to coerce people into
- 16:47Speaker 3: doing things that they wouldn't normally do. Right, And actually
- 16:51Speaker 3: some might call that terrorism. And if we allow the
- 16:54Speaker 3: official narrative to lapse and it turns out that that
- 16:58Speaker 3: was actually a terror campaigned and those individuals in particular
- 17:01Speaker 3: might be in quite a bit troubled. So obviously we
- 17:03Speaker 3: have to maintain the COVID narrative. Let's go back to
- 17:06Speaker 3: the report. The deficit model that's nudging, exemplified by nudging
- 17:12Speaker 3: urgently needs to be replaced by an approach that can
- 17:15Speaker 3: achieve the global behavior changes needed to cope with the
- 17:19Speaker 3: multiple crises that humanity is currently facing. The things we
- 17:24Speaker 3: all do drive pandemics, for example, travel or meet rich diets,
- 17:30Speaker 3: and therefore the next potentially more lethal pandemic could be
- 17:35Speaker 3: emerging as we write this. I think there might be
- 17:38Speaker 3: some nudging laid into that. That's a very immediate and
- 17:41Speaker 3: slightly terrifying term for them to be using, that a
- 17:44Speaker 3: pandemic could be emerging as we write this. The climate
- 17:47Speaker 3: emergency is already claiming countless lives. Apparently, I don't think
- 17:51Speaker 3: that's the monster be true in any sense whatsoever, and
- 17:54Speaker 3: it's certainly damaging economy. It's not for the reasons that
- 17:57Speaker 3: these people are putting forth. They flu by saying what
- 18:00Speaker 3: is needed our wholesale, sustained and evidence based efforts to
- 18:04Speaker 3: capitalize on and develop collective human agency. Yeah, this is
- 18:11Speaker 3: about reframing and re engineering humanity, populations of countries, getting
- 18:18Speaker 3: stuck into the education system, going after young children, right,
- 18:21Speaker 3: you know, remodeling the family. Actually, if we look at
- 18:24Speaker 3: some of the global challenges that they describe and the
- 18:28Speaker 3: interventions that they want to make, there's two initial interesting
- 18:31Speaker 3: ones here. So how do we help people to reclaim
- 18:35Speaker 3: their self control in online environments? And that apparently requires
- 18:39Speaker 3: the introduction of something called a citizen choice architect. So
- 18:44Speaker 3: these are the types of roles, the types of work
- 18:46Speaker 3: that's happening inside government, inside big corporations in order to
- 18:50Speaker 3: influence behavior, to get you to comply more effectively a
- 18:54Speaker 3: citizen choice architect. And then the next global challenge, how
- 18:58Speaker 3: to combat overweight and obesity, is probably a typo, especially
- 19:03Speaker 3: in children and adolescents, and that's about increasing parental competence
- 19:08Speaker 3: to design the family meal environment. Yeah, so that's just
- 19:13Speaker 3: cooking good food for your kids. Apparently Cambridge University and
- 19:17Speaker 3: the government need to be down in the weeds advising
- 19:20Speaker 3: you on that kind of thing. And then I'll save
- 19:22Speaker 3: the best for last. And this one actually really took
- 19:25Speaker 3: my breath away, although I suppose it's not that unsurprising
- 19:28Speaker 3: when you understand where it's come from. I'll read this
- 19:30Speaker 3: whole thing out. The global challenge how to empower citizens
- 19:34Speaker 3: to cope with the infodemic, the tsunami of misinformation online
- 19:39Speaker 3: and social media and on instant messaging services. So the
- 19:44Speaker 3: competence here is to reliably assess the trustworthiness of online
- 19:49Speaker 3: information sources. And the boost intervention that they're suggesting get
- 19:54Speaker 3: this right training people to use the methods of professional
- 19:58Speaker 3: fact checkers e. Using a search engine to see what
- 20:02Speaker 3: others say about the source of the content, what they
- 20:05Speaker 3: call lateral reading, rather than critically thinking through the content itself,
- 20:12Speaker 3: which is called vertical reading. That's been shown to be
- 20:15Speaker 3: effective in assessing the credibility of websites. School based interventions
- 20:19Speaker 3: with instructional strategies like teacher modeling and guided practice can
- 20:22Speaker 3: be used to teach la lateral reading. Pop up graphics
- 20:26Speaker 3: can be used to prompt social media users to read
- 20:29Speaker 3: Laterally Cambridge University Cash Sunstein of this report are saying
- 20:35Speaker 3: that citizens should be trained to not critically think through
- 20:40Speaker 3: content that they find online, and that they should be
- 20:44Speaker 3: searching for official, sanctioned narrative reinforcing titles, whether that's from
- 20:50Speaker 3: the government or elsewhere in the media, in order to
- 20:54Speaker 3: correct them and keep them on course. Right, they are
- 20:57Speaker 3: being completely explicit about they're doing and what their plans are,
- 21:02Speaker 3: and what we've seen over the past few years. Based
- 21:05Speaker 3: on its report and the change of language from just
- 21:08Speaker 3: a nudge to a boost, I think we're going to
- 21:11Speaker 3: see this stuff really ramp up over the coming months.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Ben, Thank you very much for that, and I totally
- 21:18Speaker 1: agree this is going to accelerate very quickly as they
- 21:21Speaker 1: get more desperate. Something I just like to emphasize people
- 21:25Speaker 1: is the language that they're using. We need to understand it.
- 21:29Speaker 1: We need to spend time reading in detail what these
- 21:33Speaker 1: individuals are saying, because at the end of the day,
- 21:36Speaker 1: they are unfolding their policy on the back of this language.
- 21:40Speaker 1: If you understand the language, you understand not only the
- 21:44Speaker 1: policies that they are enacting, but you can also then
- 21:48Speaker 1: understand how to dismantle these policies. So I'd say to
- 21:52Speaker 1: our audience, please don't dismiss the language of these individuals
- 21:56Speaker 1: as nonsense. It is nonsense in one way, but we
- 22:01Speaker 1: have to look at it. They are using this in
- 22:03Speaker 1: order to create the policies. Now, how are we going
- 22:06Speaker 1: to deal with this attack on our minds? Well, Diane,
- 22:09Speaker 1: you've been away with some other people and that's always
- 22:12Speaker 1: a good start.
- 22:14Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks Brian. Hello, Ben, It's really great to be
- 22:17Speaker 4: in the studio today. I'm actually down here because over
- 22:20Speaker 4: the weekend I attended and spoke at a conference that
- 22:22Speaker 4: we talked about last Monday on the news, chaired by
- 22:25Speaker 4: Kathy Mudge of Protect and Teach and As. I've done
- 22:29Speaker 4: an interview with her previously, and she's been on the
- 22:31Speaker 4: news last week talking about the conference. So on Saturday
- 22:35Speaker 4: I went to their annual conference and had a wonderful time.
- 22:39Speaker 4: I just have a few photos i'd like to show
- 22:41Speaker 4: you here from the things I took, random things I
- 22:43Speaker 4: took at the conference, showing kind of the spirit of
- 22:46Speaker 4: the people that we're here. Here's somebody's tote bag saying help.
- 22:50Speaker 4: She's thinking thoughts. I don't like arrest her. And these
- 22:54Speaker 4: were some stones that were passed out that a lady
- 22:56Speaker 4: is making for free. She was encouraged us to take
- 22:58Speaker 4: as many as possible and leave them around in places.
- 23:02Speaker 4: One says trans ideology is a belief. It is not fact,
- 23:05Speaker 4: no hate, just truth and stop quote gender affirming butchery.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Here's some coasters that were made that were handed out
- 23:14Speaker 4: woman a female at any age twenty twenty five hashtag
- 23:17Speaker 4: year of the Woman. This is of course because of
- 23:19Speaker 4: the Supreme Court ruling and of course, as we know,
- 23:22Speaker 4: a woman is an adult human female. Somebody's T shirt
- 23:25Speaker 4: said safeguarding is our duty biology, not ideology. And I
- 23:31Speaker 4: also picked up a copy of the Women's Quiz book.
- 23:33Speaker 4: This is written by a woman in the nineteen nineties
- 23:36Speaker 4: called Jennifer Gorley, who is a member of the Protect
- 23:38Speaker 4: and Teach group. And what we're going to do is
- 23:41Speaker 4: back if you're a member of Walls on Extra, we
- 23:44Speaker 4: will talk about this book some more and extra we
- 23:46Speaker 4: might even.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Have a quiz Brian, Okay, sounds good.
- 23:50Speaker 4: So some of the content that was covered in the conference.
- 23:53Speaker 4: This is an important report from Protecting Teach called Safeguarding
- 23:56Speaker 4: of Children in School and College. You can download this
- 23:59Speaker 4: from their webs. It's a very important report that shows
- 24:01Speaker 4: a lot of the research that they have done in
- 24:03Speaker 4: terms of contacting the Church of England and other people
- 24:06Speaker 4: who are in charge of what's happening in the schools
- 24:08Speaker 4: and the colleges and trying to call them out for
- 24:10Speaker 4: it and trying to make people realize the biological reality
- 24:14Speaker 4: of having only two sexes. This is Professor Gloria Moss.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Some of you will recognize her name. She wrote the
- 24:21Speaker 4: article that came out recently on a UK column about
- 24:24Speaker 4: the Fabians and the Fabians founding of the Labor Party
- 24:27Speaker 4: against very important reports. So she was one of the
- 24:30Speaker 4: invited speakers and I was the other invited speaker. She
- 24:33Speaker 4: talked about the relationship between transgenderism and transhumanism and again
- 24:38Speaker 4: brought in some of her work on the Fabians. She
- 24:41Speaker 4: did a wonderful speech as well about all of the
- 24:43Speaker 4: academic research that she's done in the past that shows
- 24:46Speaker 4: the reality of the differences between men and women and
- 24:48Speaker 4: their preferences for design. These are the two wonderful ladies
- 24:53Speaker 4: that kind of head up the group. Kathy Mudge, you'll
- 24:56Speaker 4: know what we saw her last week on the news
- 24:58Speaker 4: and that's the other men of the committee over there
- 25:00Speaker 4: on the right, and they kind of gave an overall
- 25:03Speaker 4: introduction to the conference. One of the things that has
- 25:06Speaker 4: been covered in Kathy's interview that I did with her
- 25:09Speaker 4: a few weeks ago is the Church of England's guidance
- 25:13Speaker 4: called Flora. It's called I'm Sorry, It's about Sorry, Flourishing
- 25:16Speaker 4: for all anti bullying guidance for Church of England schools.
- 25:20Speaker 4: And one of the things that we showed in this
- 25:22Speaker 4: interview was an appendix from that document that showed a
- 25:25Speaker 4: glossary of terms showing that the Church of England has
- 25:28Speaker 4: in fact adopted gender ideology, with terms like gender dysphoria,
- 25:32Speaker 4: identity disorder, gender Recognition Certificate MTUA, which is male or
- 25:36Speaker 4: female packing, which is making people look like they are
- 25:39Speaker 4: something that they are not underneath for clothing, transgender transitioning binding,
- 25:44Speaker 4: which is what girls do when they don't want to
- 25:46Speaker 4: develop their breasts, and so on. So one of the
- 25:49Speaker 4: things after this came out that the Church of England
- 25:53Speaker 4: was contacted by Protect and Teach and they had been
- 25:56Speaker 4: contacted previously and they said please, because of the Supreme
- 25:59Speaker 4: Court judgment, we would like to request is that you
- 26:02Speaker 4: adapt this document to show that there is only two
- 26:05Speaker 4: sexes and that one sex cannot be participating in things
- 26:09Speaker 4: that are meant for the other sex. And so they
- 26:12Speaker 4: were quite successful in a way. It wasn't entirely amended,
- 26:15Speaker 4: but they did amend this flourishing for All documentation to
- 26:19Speaker 4: show that in fact, what we are now doing is
- 26:22Speaker 4: showing that there is only two sexes and there's some
- 26:24Speaker 4: more work to do in it. But that was one thing,
- 26:26Speaker 4: so now the document has been amended as of April
- 26:29Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. Something else that Kathy presented was some
- 26:35Speaker 4: I guess we could say some presentations that have been
- 26:39Speaker 4: developed by a group called Jigsaw, and Jigsaw is one
- 26:42Speaker 4: of the organizations that now provides curriculum to students in
- 26:47Speaker 4: England schools. This was leaked on the Internet by a
- 26:51Speaker 4: concerned adult that had been attained otherwise, so basically these
- 26:56Speaker 4: are not normally shared with parents, but we did get
- 26:59Speaker 4: access to some of these, and I'm just going to
- 27:01Speaker 4: show a few examples of what the children are shown
- 27:04Speaker 4: in schools when they're doing this PSAT education, which is
- 27:07Speaker 4: the personality of personal sexual health education. So is this
- 27:12Speaker 4: to show a couple of slides from this, and these
- 27:15Speaker 4: are things that are read out directly to the students
- 27:17Speaker 4: that are given to the teachers. The teachers have no
- 27:19Speaker 4: choice in what's shared in this curriculum. So this one says,
- 27:22Speaker 4: when we are born, we have a particular set of
- 27:25Speaker 4: private body parts, genitals, reproductive organs, and needs mean we
- 27:28Speaker 4: are said to be male or female. This is the
- 27:31Speaker 4: biological sex that is recorded on our birth certificate. Most
- 27:34Speaker 4: people are born with either a male body or a
- 27:37Speaker 4: female body. This is known as your biological sex. We
- 27:41Speaker 4: usually call someone born with male genitals, which include a
- 27:44Speaker 4: penis and testicles, a boy, and someone born with female genitals,
- 27:48Speaker 4: which includes a volva, vagina and womb a girl. The
- 27:51Speaker 4: way a person feels about themselves, which of course is
- 27:54Speaker 4: obviously different, and whether they feel like they are male
- 27:58Speaker 4: a boy or female a girl is known as their
- 28:00Speaker 4: gender identity. And this is one of the things that
- 28:04Speaker 4: is shown as part of this particular lesson. And what
- 28:07Speaker 4: I would like to do is leave this on screen
- 28:09Speaker 4: and read the notes that are given to the teachers
- 28:11Speaker 4: that they are provided when they have to give this
- 28:14Speaker 4: lesson to the children. And this is exactly what the
- 28:16Speaker 4: teachers are told to do. Demonstrate how to draw a
- 28:20Speaker 4: Venn diagram, which is what is shown there where we
- 28:22Speaker 4: have boys and girls as separate and then both in
- 28:25Speaker 4: the middle, which is a mix potentially of boys and girls,
- 28:28Speaker 4: with one circle labeled boys, one circle labeled girls, and
- 28:31Speaker 4: both in the middle, and ask children to quickly do
- 28:34Speaker 4: their own on whiteboards. Ask children to sort the statements
- 28:37Speaker 4: into categories by writing the numbers in the correct area
- 28:40Speaker 4: of the Venn diagram in pairs of appropriate Remind the
- 28:43Speaker 4: children how to complete a ven diagram, including how some
- 28:47Speaker 4: things can be outside all the circles. I don't know
- 28:49Speaker 4: how that works. Before children are invited to share their categorization,
- 28:54Speaker 4: ask them if this was an easy or difficult exercise
- 28:57Speaker 4: and why do they think they have been asked to
- 28:59Speaker 4: do this? And then I know it's the teacher. You
- 29:01Speaker 4: will be able to see how aware of gender stereotyping
- 29:04Speaker 4: they are by their responses. Hopefully children will not have
- 29:07Speaker 4: ingrained gender stereotypes, and if they don't, please feel you
- 29:11Speaker 4: can move swiftly through this part of the lesson. So
- 29:14Speaker 4: we're trying to break apart what boys do and what
- 29:16Speaker 4: girls do and break down those stereotypes. However, if you
- 29:20Speaker 4: see some stereotypical ideas coming through. It's worth spending time
- 29:24Speaker 4: unpacking these with a children do not leave stereotypical responses unchallenged.
- 29:29Speaker 4: Handle the discussion carefully to draw out the concept of stereotypes. So, Brian,
- 29:34Speaker 4: here what we're seeing is the breakdown of understanding what
- 29:38Speaker 4: it is to be a boy and what it is
- 29:39Speaker 4: to be a girl. Not to say that stereotypes are
- 29:41Speaker 4: always the case, but I don't think that they want
- 29:43Speaker 4: the children to leave the lesson at all whatsoever with
- 29:46Speaker 4: any concept of what a boy is or what a
- 29:48Speaker 4: girl is. I don't know what you think about that.
- 29:51Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely correct. And what we're seeing is
- 29:53Speaker 1: the power of these outside agencies and the companies, and
- 29:57Speaker 1: were now in the situation where a school teacher is
- 30:00Speaker 1: not allowed to think for themselves in preparing their own
- 30:04Speaker 1: lesson plan. So couple that with a government that wants
- 30:07Speaker 1: to use accelerated nudging to reframe the way adults think.
- 30:13Speaker 1: We can be sure that they are desperate to get
- 30:16Speaker 1: their hands on the minds of little children so that
- 30:19Speaker 1: those children can be reframed before they become adults. Very
- 30:23Speaker 1: very sinister stuff, Diane. We will continue to keep reporting,
- 30:27Speaker 1: and I'm going to say huge thank you to all
- 30:30Speaker 1: the people who who set up that conference and of
- 30:34Speaker 1: course who are taking the trouble to confront some of
- 30:38Speaker 1: these organizations head on. This is what proper activism is about,
- 30:42Speaker 1: and this is what we need if we're going to
- 30:46Speaker 1: pull the foundation out from this dangerous government grooming of
- 30:51Speaker 1: our children. Well, if you like what the UK Column
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- 31:50Speaker 1: commenting on articles going up on UK column website. There's
- 31:53Speaker 1: a lot of really good material. What have we got here?
- 31:57Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is just a couple of articles that
- 31:58Speaker 4: have been published in the past. So every week when
- 32:01Speaker 4: i'm every Monday, I'll be reviewing kind of what we've
- 32:03Speaker 4: published in the past week. So here are two brand
- 32:05Speaker 4: new ones to take a look at. This first one
- 32:08Speaker 4: is from Venessa Billy The UK Private security Boom in
- 32:11Speaker 4: Syria under Al Qaeda regime Part one, so this will
- 32:13Speaker 4: be a multiple part series. She reported some of this
- 32:16Speaker 4: material in her spot on the news last Wednesday. And
- 32:20Speaker 4: the other new one is by Matthew Ritt, The Enduring
- 32:22Speaker 4: Problem of the Jesuits, which is actually a very timely
- 32:25Speaker 4: article because the pope who just passed away was a Jesuit.
- 32:28Speaker 4: So it's really a very interesting historical and deep look
- 32:32Speaker 4: into what the Jesuits are about and what they've been doing.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much for that. Now, Ben, you've
- 32:40Speaker 1: been out traveling and Saturday just gone was an event
- 32:44Speaker 1: in the Stoveford Community Center in Sidmouth that was a
- 32:48Speaker 1: talk called Natural Law Remedy or Ruin It's Choice by
- 32:52Speaker 1: William Katie. How did you find it?
- 32:58Speaker 3: It was fantastic. I had a wonderful, wonderful couple of
- 33:03Speaker 3: days over in Sidmouth. Will was excellent. He talks about
- 33:08Speaker 3: the British constitution, trial by jury mechanisms for self governance.
- 33:13Speaker 3: See the question back there. Can we be our own government?
- 33:16Speaker 3: I think we can, but we've got to take responsibility
- 33:18Speaker 3: for our own actions. This is what we should ultimately
- 33:20Speaker 3: be aiming for. It was a real powerhouse performance, three
- 33:24Speaker 3: hours of material expertly delivered, and there's a great crowd there.
- 33:29Speaker 3: It's really good to meet some UK column viewers. Had
- 33:32Speaker 3: some lovely, warm comments and feedback and someone told me
- 33:36Speaker 3: that I felt like a family member to them, which
- 33:38Speaker 3: was just really lovely actually. And it was a great venue.
- 33:42Speaker 3: Sidemauth is just something else I've never been down there before,
- 33:44Speaker 3: being just one of the most beautiful places. And we
- 33:48Speaker 3: even got a little display from the lifeguard out on maneuvers.
- 33:54Speaker 3: They weren't actually rescuing anybody, but I think they were
- 33:57Speaker 3: just letting everyone know that they were there.
- 34:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:01Speaker 3: Great, a great weekend in Devon.
- 34:05Speaker 1: Okay, Ben, I'm really glad that you enjoyed it, and
- 34:07Speaker 1: a huge thank you again for those people that took
- 34:11Speaker 1: the effort to put on an event to start talking
- 34:14Speaker 1: not only about what's wrong, but what can be done.
- 34:17Speaker 1: This is what proper activism is about. And a huge
- 34:20Speaker 1: thank you to all that team. Well done to yourself
- 34:23Speaker 1: for going. Should I just say that the RNLI were
- 34:28Speaker 1: doing that exercise there that wasn't actually a migrant rubber
- 34:32Speaker 1: boat before anybody gets too excited. Now, the other thing
- 34:37Speaker 1: we have to tell you is that tonight at seven pm,
- 34:41Speaker 1: Germ Warfare will be speaking on why machines will never
- 34:45Speaker 1: rule the world. We're very grateful to have Germ with
- 34:48Speaker 1: us on the UK Column and he's going to be
- 34:51Speaker 1: putting out some really interesting material, so do look out
- 34:54Speaker 1: for this at seven o'clock tonight. We've also got interesting
- 35:00Speaker 1: interview coming up with malcolmer Hills under the title an
- 35:03Speaker 1: Englishmen Abroad. Now, Malcolm's been living in Russia and this
- 35:08Speaker 1: is an excellent opportunity for UK column viewers to understand
- 35:11Speaker 1: a little bit about the realities of what it's like
- 35:15Speaker 1: to live in other countries, particularly those countries that are
- 35:18Speaker 1: constantly in the bad books of the United Kingdom. So
- 35:22Speaker 1: do join us for that at one o'clock tomorrow. Now
- 35:26Speaker 1: I'm just going to move on through one slide, so
- 35:29Speaker 1: let's gone through that reminder that Friday the eighteenth, the
- 35:34Speaker 1: nineteenth of July, we've got the Theptford Truth and Freedom
- 35:38Speaker 1: Beer Festival at the Angel in swallow Lane, Larling in
- 35:42Speaker 1: our sixteenth to qu that's not eighteenth and nineteenth of July.
- 35:48Speaker 1: And again this is another event, very relaxed, where socializing
- 35:53Speaker 1: with people and learning and talking about what's happening in
- 35:57Speaker 1: the country go together. I think this is a very
- 36:00Speaker 1: powerful way of doing things. People need the enjoyment of
- 36:04Speaker 1: coming together and they need everything possible to get rid
- 36:07Speaker 1: of that horrible stress and fear which the government is
- 36:11Speaker 1: piling upon us with their behavioral insights and accelerated nudging.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Now we've also got the Sounds Beautiful Festival coming up.
- 36:21Speaker 1: That's June twenty sixth, twenty ninth in Wimborne, Dorset, and
- 36:27Speaker 1: that is going to be a very good event with
- 36:29Speaker 1: speakers and music and camping and a lot more. So
- 36:33Speaker 1: if you can get there, please get involved, and also
- 36:38Speaker 1: say that there's a couple of free tickets available if
- 36:42Speaker 1: you go onto the UK column Facebook you can enter.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Plus we'll put up a link on our show notes
- 36:49Speaker 1: about this. So a lot happening and I think this
- 36:53Speaker 1: is really encouraging people are not just active in the
- 36:57Speaker 1: political sense, and well done to everybody in all the parties,
- 37:01Speaker 1: not only the reform candidates that got out at local level,
- 37:05Speaker 1: but all the other small party people who were taking
- 37:09Speaker 1: on the big parties by being active on the streets.
- 37:13Speaker 1: We also want to thank people who are putting on
- 37:15Speaker 1: alternative conferences and doing things in their own way at
- 37:21Speaker 1: local level. This is very, very powerful. So, Diane, probably
- 37:26Speaker 1: that brings us back to you. What's been happening around libraries?
- 37:31Speaker 4: Well, Brian, that was the question that Protect and Teach
- 37:34Speaker 4: had for me. I've been working with them for a
- 37:36Speaker 4: few months now on looking at the books that are
- 37:39Speaker 4: being provided in libraries to children, and so they the
- 37:41Speaker 4: reason they invited me to this conference over the weekend
- 37:44Speaker 4: was did you talk about what's going on in libraries
- 37:47Speaker 4: and how these things are getting into the hands of children.
- 37:50Speaker 4: And what I want to say in advance is that
- 37:51Speaker 4: basically the overall impression that I want to give to
- 37:55Speaker 4: the viewers, and I hope you get this from what
- 37:57Speaker 4: I show you, is that an entirety that revolves around
- 38:02Speaker 4: the libraries, and it's not individual librarians in particular, that
- 38:05Speaker 4: are trying to put this in front of children. It's
- 38:07Speaker 4: an entire system, and essentially, I don't believe that the
- 38:10Speaker 4: librarians are really given much of a choice, and I'm
- 38:12Speaker 4: going to demonstrate that through some very direct evidence that
- 38:15Speaker 4: I know how to access after over twenty years in
- 38:17Speaker 4: the profession. So I just want to show here. Emily
- 38:21Speaker 4: Draubensky was the president of the American Library Association from
- 38:25Speaker 4: twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four. And the reason
- 38:27Speaker 4: I'm going to be talking about the American Library Association
- 38:30Speaker 4: is not only because I was trained under American Library
- 38:33Speaker 4: Association credentials, but because there's a reciprocal relationship directly between
- 38:38Speaker 4: the ALA and STILLIP, which is the UK's chartered Institute
- 38:41Speaker 4: for Library and Information Professionals. And the reason that this
- 38:44Speaker 4: is important is, for example, if you're trained in ALA program,
- 38:48Speaker 4: you can come to the UK and work under a
- 38:50Speaker 4: program that would otherwise be accredited by STILLIP and vice versa.
- 38:54Speaker 4: So there are direct associations. And of course the ALA
- 38:57Speaker 4: is much larger just due to the population of an America,
- 39:00Speaker 4: and so a lot of what happens in SCYLLIP happens
- 39:03Speaker 4: firstly with ALA and that includes the funding, that includes
- 39:06Speaker 4: the agenda, that includes what gets pushed through the professional body.
- 39:11Speaker 4: So Emily being president from twenty twenty three to twenty
- 39:14Speaker 4: twenty four. When this first came out, she tweeted that
- 39:17Speaker 4: she couldn't believe that a so called Marxist lesbian as
- 39:20Speaker 4: she called herself, could be elected to be the president
- 39:23Speaker 4: of the ALA, And she went on to say that
- 39:25Speaker 4: she was definitely going to put her own politics into
- 39:28Speaker 4: what happens in the American Library Association therefore in the libraries,
- 39:32Speaker 4: which is really not what we are really supposed to
- 39:34Speaker 4: be doing all at all ethically. So let's hear what
- 39:37Speaker 4: Emily had to say to this conference in Chicago a
- 39:41Speaker 4: couple of years ago that was literally a conference from
- 39:43Speaker 4: Marxist and she went to go talk to them, and
- 39:45Speaker 4: what did she say to them.
- 39:52Speaker 2: I'm Emily in a library, and I just want to
- 39:54Speaker 2: be I just want to say thank you for bringing
- 40:01Speaker 2: up libraries and classic libraries, but also the library of
- 40:05Speaker 2: all kinds of public libraries and higher educational.
- 40:07Speaker 3: Libraries, and have an attack its in your ways.
- 40:10Speaker 2: But I think your point is public education needs to
- 40:13Speaker 2: be inside a social organizating library. Is really new too,
- 40:17Speaker 2: and I haven't I haven't seen that further or of
- 40:21Speaker 2: working in the libraries. So I think there's a real opportunity
- 40:24Speaker 2: here to both connect what's happen in public edition of
- 40:27Speaker 2: Company in Library avelot and we need some help in
- 40:31Speaker 2: the libraries.
- 40:31Speaker 3: We need to be on the Adenta visual organize.
- 40:34Speaker 5: So at one G they have something.
- 40:39Speaker 6: I want like career to work And if your knock
- 40:44Speaker 6: out and inquite a difficult cub of the inspirations.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Of me, can I just can I just say that?
- 40:53Speaker 1: And I reacted during that video when when she said
- 40:56Speaker 1: we need to you know, we need to focus on
- 40:59Speaker 1: the agenda of socialist organizing. So there's that lady declaring
- 41:04Speaker 1: that she's going to use her extreme political beliefs to
- 41:08Speaker 1: get at the children by activists activism through the libraries.
- 41:14Speaker 4: Quite incredible, yes, and unfortunately it gets where's Brian And
- 41:17Speaker 4: I'm going to show you why hear So this is
- 41:20Speaker 4: John Pateman. John Pateman has written a series of books.
- 41:23Speaker 4: He's worked in public libraries for over forty years and
- 41:25Speaker 4: his books have been there's basically a three part series.
- 41:29Speaker 4: I think of books about public libraries that are published
- 41:32Speaker 4: by Facet Publishing, which is the publisher of Sillip and
- 41:35Speaker 4: I'm just going to read some direct quotes from these
- 41:37Speaker 4: books because I can't say this any better than to
- 41:39Speaker 4: come from them directly. Only the leader possesses the correct
- 41:43Speaker 4: ideology and can disseminate this ideology. This then is the
- 41:46Speaker 4: main role of the leader to articulate, spread and inculcate ideology.
- 41:51Speaker 4: Kim Il Sung, Kim John Ill, and King John Un
- 41:54Speaker 4: three exemplary leaders of the North Korean working class. It
- 41:59Speaker 4: is no coincident and that the Jiu Je Tower in
- 42:01Speaker 4: Pyongyang is directly opposite the Grand People's Study House, the
- 42:04Speaker 4: National Library and Revolution Square both represent the guiding ideology
- 42:08Speaker 4: of the Korean people. Public libraries are instruments of political indoctrination.
- 42:13Speaker 4: They imbue the masses with the jiu Che idea and
- 42:16Speaker 4: maintain ideological unity in the country and later elsewhere in
- 42:20Speaker 4: the book, he said, I was honored to share a
- 42:22Speaker 4: platform with Comrade for del Castro at the third Cuban
- 42:26Speaker 4: Cultural Congress held at the Carl Marx Theatre in Havana.
- 42:29Speaker 4: And he is the winner of the Cuban Cultural Medal
- 42:31Speaker 4: for Library Service, and he is one of the leaders
- 42:34Speaker 4: in public libraries both in the US and the UK,
- 42:36Speaker 4: and is widely published by Sillip and Ala and other
- 42:39Speaker 4: leading library publishers. Beth Montague Helen is a British librarian.
- 42:45Speaker 4: She wrote a book that was published by Fassa Publishing
- 42:48Speaker 4: Sillip in twenty twenty four called Practical Tips for Equality,
- 42:52Speaker 4: diversity and Inclusion in Libraries, and she said as social
- 42:55Speaker 4: justice minded librarians, we should accept that neutrality is not possible.
- 43:00Speaker 4: Is taught that we're supposed to be neutral as librarians
- 43:02Speaker 4: and just provide people with what they want. Right being,
- 43:04Speaker 4: calls for censorship frequently asked that LGBTQ plus materials are
- 43:08Speaker 4: removed from libraries, often in the name of protecting the
- 43:11Speaker 4: children and teenagers who would most benefit from reading these
- 43:14Speaker 4: books left being calls for censorship often ask that material
- 43:18Speaker 4: that is racist, sexist, homophobic, or anti trans be removed.
- 43:22Speaker 4: Many reading this book may agree with this stance, meaning
- 43:25Speaker 4: librarians who are supposed to be brainwashed already finding this
- 43:28Speaker 4: sort of content extremely distasteful and worrying about the effects
- 43:32Speaker 4: the books may have on vulnerable members of our communities.
- 43:35Speaker 4: And she goes on to say, drake queens are flamboyant
- 43:38Speaker 4: performers and have frequently been integral to family entertainment, particularly
- 43:42Speaker 4: in the UK where pantomime dames are popular. Alongside the
- 43:45Speaker 4: benefit of welcoming the LGBTQ plus community into the library,
- 43:49Speaker 4: a Drake Queen's Story Hour can be a lovely event
- 43:51Speaker 4: for small children where books are read by excellent performers.
- 43:55Speaker 4: Some sections of local communities are extremely hostile to these events, However,
- 44:00Speaker 4: Sandra Hughes Hassel, who is the author of Collection Management
- 44:03Speaker 4: for Youth is It's Another EDI book. She's an American
- 44:05Speaker 4: academic and library and information science. She said library staff
- 44:10Speaker 4: must pay attention to issues such as racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, ableism,
- 44:15Speaker 4: and economic inequality. They must develop strategies for addressing the inequities,
- 44:21Speaker 4: not inequalities, which is very different in equities marginalized identity.
- 44:25Speaker 4: Youth experience in all aspects of their library work, including
- 44:28Speaker 4: collection development. But how do we do that? To ensure
- 44:31Speaker 4: equitable library collections for all youth, library staff who act
- 44:35Speaker 4: as collectors must adopt a structural ideology. There's that word again,
- 44:39Speaker 4: the Guchy idea, the duchideology that came from Lennon originally
- 44:43Speaker 4: according to John Pateman, perspective that recognizes the role of
- 44:47Speaker 4: systems in marginalizing and oppressing marginalized identity youth. This is
- 44:52Speaker 4: another book for about school libraries with Impact, which is
- 44:54Speaker 4: another publication other book published by Pillop the last couple
- 44:58Speaker 4: of years. A few quotes from this A group of
- 45:01Speaker 4: parents and cares from a particular religion cannot force the
- 45:04Speaker 4: library not to stock books with LGBTQ plus characters using
- 45:09Speaker 4: the argument that it is against their beliefs. The Equality
- 45:13Speaker 4: Act protects the library from enforced censorship and challenges to
- 45:16Speaker 4: resource provision. Osted state that the school environment should meet
- 45:20Speaker 4: the needs of all peoples, irrespective of age, disability, gender reassignment, race,
- 45:26Speaker 4: religion or belief, sex or sexual orientation. They will look
- 45:30Speaker 4: at behavior and safety within a school in the context
- 45:32Speaker 4: of the Equality Act. A key component of the statutory
- 45:36Speaker 4: guidance for safeguarding is having an equality and diversity policy
- 45:40Speaker 4: that seeks to prevent discrimination, harassment, and bullying and details
- 45:45Speaker 4: how to deal with these issues. And I'm not sure
- 45:47Speaker 4: what that means for people who are buzz Slower, Christian
- 45:49Speaker 4: or any other religion in this country. Book twenty eight
- 45:52Speaker 4: is an LGBTQ organization. They have a small lending library
- 45:57Speaker 4: in London and they also provide guidance for librarians to
- 46:00Speaker 4: summarize us quickly and basically what they say is that
- 46:03Speaker 4: they give you information on how to subvert the normal
- 46:06Speaker 4: ways that librarians get materials into libraries by going to
- 46:10Speaker 4: other suppliers including books for younger children, board books, picture books,
- 46:15Speaker 4: middle grade books and that we have noticed that sometimes
- 46:18Speaker 4: it's improving according to them, that the young adult titles
- 46:21Speaker 4: do tender more automatically, but for children's titles it is
- 46:24Speaker 4: essential to look beyond the UK including our list of
- 46:27Speaker 4: library sur suppliers which is a link on their website
- 46:30Speaker 4: and book awards for LGBTIQ as well as some the
- 46:34Speaker 4: Sheffield University List Challenges which also includes children's titles. And
- 46:39Speaker 4: just a couple of ways that these actually come through
- 46:42Speaker 4: or through these vendors that provide things like book lists
- 46:44Speaker 4: they have. This is Peters a book supplier to libraries
- 46:47Speaker 4: diversive and inclusive books for schools. They work with an
- 46:51Speaker 4: organization to charity called Inclusive Books for Children that make
- 46:54Speaker 4: up these lists tell the libraries what they should be
- 46:57Speaker 4: buying and book Trust is the other one to take
- 47:00Speaker 4: a look at where they have again book list. They
- 47:03Speaker 4: say they support librarians, they curate books for librarians. Don't worry, librarians,
- 47:08Speaker 4: you have lots of time because we're going to come
- 47:10Speaker 4: up with the list for you of what you need
- 47:12Speaker 4: to buy. Here's an example of one of their best
- 47:14Speaker 4: books from the past year, which shows all kinds of
- 47:18Speaker 4: diversity of present in this book. And again this is
- 47:21Speaker 4: the part of the PSAHT Curriculum for young Children. Dewey
- 47:25Speaker 4: decimal numbers that are provided by the book twenty eight organization.
- 47:28Speaker 4: We see three oh six point seven seventy five is
- 47:31Speaker 4: S and M. We see three oh six point seven
- 47:34Speaker 4: six eight as transgender and intersex people. Seven nine point
- 47:38Speaker 4: two point zero two eight is drag and mail and
- 47:40Speaker 4: field Bale impersonation. So if you want to find those
- 47:42Speaker 4: in your library, that's where you find them. And there's
- 47:45Speaker 4: a list of terms called the homosaurus, which is specifically
- 47:48Speaker 4: for LGBTQ population, and one of their items as an
- 47:52Speaker 4: official term that can be used to describe books and
- 47:55Speaker 4: library catalogs is in fact transgender children. So Brian, I
- 47:59Speaker 4: think it's pretty easy to see here what they're doing
- 48:01Speaker 4: we see the idea geology coming from North Korea and
- 48:03Speaker 4: from Lenin and from the Soviet Union and coming the
- 48:06Speaker 4: other way down into telling librarians how they need to
- 48:09Speaker 4: describe the materials and the catallags and even tell them
- 48:11Speaker 4: them what books they should be banged.
- 48:13Speaker 1: And interestingly enough, that pathway comes through the so called
- 48:18Speaker 1: rules based international order, which says effectively that it's based
- 48:22Speaker 1: on Western democracy. So something very different is going. We'll
- 48:26Speaker 1: talk about this a lot more in UK column Extra
- 48:30Speaker 1: Ben take us a little deeper down the rabbit hole
- 48:34Speaker 1: with Innovate.
- 48:38Speaker 3: I can't believe that he referenced Kim jongen as as
- 48:41Speaker 3: an inspiration. I mean, that's just crazy, isn't it. Anyway,
- 48:45Speaker 3: the global energy transition, the Grand Transition rumbles on the
- 48:50Speaker 3: public private marketplace. Touchdown in London last week for Innovation
- 48:55Speaker 3: zero World Congress. Let's see some highlights in day one.
- 49:06Speaker 5: We're here at a conference called Innovation Zero. We need
- 49:09Speaker 5: all of us, as a community of business leaders but
- 49:11Speaker 5: also government leaders, have the courage to stay the course.
- 49:16Speaker 5: That's why this conference is so important bringing us together.
- 49:22Speaker 6: I think we should speak openly and candidly with people
- 49:25Speaker 6: about what it will take to enable energy bills to
- 49:27Speaker 6: fall whilst we do the right thing for the planet.
- 49:30Speaker 4: Making electricity cheat is so vital because sixty percent of
- 49:34Speaker 4: our emissions.
- 49:35Speaker 3: Reduction over the next decade is going to come from
- 49:37Speaker 3: building cheap electricity. Well, I think this event is fantastic.
- 49:42Speaker 3: I meant just a scale of it.
- 49:44Speaker 6: It was absolutely packed.
- 49:46Speaker 5: It's vital that we have the investment in a low
- 49:49Speaker 5: carbon economy.
- 49:51Speaker 3: That will deliver renewable energy and the growth of the
- 49:54Speaker 3: net zero economy. Well, clean power is one of the
- 49:57Speaker 3: most important things that we're doing to support the UK
- 50:00Speaker 3: on me right now because it's of her investment.
- 50:02Speaker 6: If we get that right, this is one of the
- 50:04Speaker 6: greatest business opportunities of our lifetime.
- 50:10Speaker 3: They have it, the greatest business opportunity of our lifetime.
- 50:14Speaker 3: I'm not even going to tell you what they want,
- 50:16Speaker 3: because you know what they want. They want to completely
- 50:18Speaker 3: remodel the whole system, move us over to these new,
- 50:21Speaker 3: untested technologies that don't work and frankly completely unnecessary. Who's
- 50:26Speaker 3: delivering the message, Well, it's the usual suspects. So Sondrine
- 50:30Speaker 3: Dixon de clev She's a really nasty piece of work,
- 50:34Speaker 3: this woman. I've listened to a lot of what she
- 50:36Speaker 3: has to say. I just took this screen grab, you know,
- 50:39Speaker 3: just just without trying to picture her in any particular way,
- 50:44Speaker 3: but I think it sums her up quite nicely. She
- 50:48Speaker 3: is apparently the author and executive chair or something called
- 50:52Speaker 3: Earth for All. But also importantly they missed this bit out.
- 50:55Speaker 3: She's president of the Club of rome A right, and
- 50:57Speaker 3: she was the first person in their videos. I think
- 51:00Speaker 3: tells you a lot about what the priorities are and
- 51:01Speaker 3: who's ultimately calling the shot. Who else will we got
- 51:04Speaker 3: in the frame? Greg Jackson, CEO of Rocktimber's Energy, basically
- 51:08Speaker 3: the selected champion of net zero And for me, this
- 51:12Speaker 3: guy he's a front man. Actually listen to what he's
- 51:15Speaker 3: talking about. Anytime that he speaks, imagine that he's just
- 51:19Speaker 3: delivering a script and that he doesn't actually understand what
- 51:21Speaker 3: he's saying, and I think you'll get a real insight
- 51:24Speaker 3: into what this guy's about. He's essentially a front man
- 51:27Speaker 3: for global capital and in particular some of the big
- 51:32Speaker 3: technology plays that are happening further up the chaining side,
- 51:35Speaker 3: Octopus group cracking in particular, I think you need to
- 51:38Speaker 3: go and have a look at as basically a global
- 51:40Speaker 3: control system for whole of international energy infrastructure. And he's
- 51:45Speaker 3: basically just a front man to help it usher this
- 51:47Speaker 3: whole thing through. Who else was there? Emma Pinchback, new
- 51:50Speaker 3: CEO of the Climate Change Committee. I've got to say
- 51:53Speaker 3: it's remarkable she actually made it to the event. Apparently
- 51:56Speaker 3: by her own emissions. She has trouble getting out of
- 51:58Speaker 3: bed in the morning. And I just leave that there.
- 52:03Speaker 3: Who else loaded their turner? The chairman of the FSA
- 52:08Speaker 3: during the two thousand and eight financial crisis, So he's
- 52:11Speaker 3: actually personally responsible for all of those bankers that went
- 52:14Speaker 3: to prison after the Great Crash in two thousand and eight.
- 52:18Speaker 3: Oh sorry, no, no bankers. No bankers went to prison,
- 52:20Speaker 3: did they? So he oversaw that. He's also remember the
- 52:23Speaker 3: G thirty, who was the group that oversee the Bank
- 52:25Speaker 3: of International Settlements, the Central Bank of Central bankers. And
- 52:30Speaker 3: he actually describes himself as a technocrat. That's how he
- 52:33Speaker 3: talks about himself and what he does. And then finally
- 52:37Speaker 3: this little squeaker, this is Chris Stark, who's a head
- 52:41Speaker 3: of Mission for Clean Power, another unelected technocrat. And I
- 52:45Speaker 3: will just say to mister start although we're going to
- 52:47Speaker 3: be bringing you back in because you're quite important. We'll
- 52:50Speaker 3: talk about you a lot over the coming months, mister Start.
- 52:52Speaker 3: But I would just say for now, what happens in
- 52:55Speaker 3: Edinburgh stays in Edinburgh, doesn't it, mister Start. I'm sure
- 52:58Speaker 3: you will certainly help, I hope so. Anyway, So that's
- 53:01Speaker 3: the central command of control function. The whole thing's being
- 53:05Speaker 3: ushered in by these clowns. So these are the ones
- 53:07Speaker 3: doing the dirty work down in the trenches. So you've
- 53:09Speaker 3: got from the left, Andy Burnham, Mayor of Greater Manchester,
- 53:12Speaker 3: Steve Rotherham, Mayor of the Liverpool City Region, Metti Coban,
- 53:16Speaker 3: Deputy Mayor for Energy and the Environments in London, Sinikkhan's
- 53:20Speaker 3: best mate, founder of My Life, My Say, an Obama leader,
- 53:24Speaker 3: basically a Rothschild puppet. And these three are being babysat
- 53:29Speaker 3: there by Auntie and see, which is Emma Howard boyd
- 53:33Speaker 3: Cbe who's also wearing a Dandy Lion badge. And we've
- 53:37Speaker 3: spoken about Dandy Lions a lot previously, and she is
- 53:40Speaker 3: pulling the strings there with those three the Metro mayors
- 53:43Speaker 3: that they're doing what they're told by the Dandy Lions
- 53:46Speaker 3: and that just gives us a sense of how this
- 53:48Speaker 3: whole thing's being orchestrated and also a sense of, I think,
- 53:51Speaker 3: how we can push back against it. Because the Simon Steel,
- 53:55Speaker 3: the top guy for climate change at the UN told
- 53:57Speaker 3: us the other day local govern are absolutely crucial in
- 54:02Speaker 3: driving climate action. If it doesn't happen at a local level,
- 54:05Speaker 3: it doesn't happen anywhere. So this is where the fint
- 54:08Speaker 3: is to fust stop to this whole thing.
- 54:12Speaker 1: Okay, Ben, thank you very much. We're going to continue
- 54:16Speaker 1: in a forthcoming news additions to dig into this morass
- 54:21Speaker 1: of policy makers because we have to get the liddle
- 54:25Speaker 1: fit to stop it. Diane, where does that take us
- 54:28Speaker 1: with yourself?
- 54:30Speaker 4: I just wanted to cover something that we'll be coming
- 54:33Speaker 4: in much greater detail. As we know countries around the
- 54:37Speaker 4: world unfortunately have been doing their inquiries which we know
- 54:41Speaker 4: are essentially cover ups, and I'm working on some deeper
- 54:44Speaker 4: research on that. So I just wanted to say I
- 54:47Speaker 4: got in touch, or actually she got in touch with me.
- 54:49Speaker 4: This lady Cutlinda Wharton, who is in charge of the
- 54:52Speaker 4: Health Forum New Zealand, and what she's got for us
- 54:56Speaker 4: is basically she's responding to phase two of the acquiring
- 55:00Speaker 4: New Zealand. We all know about single source of truth
- 55:03Speaker 4: to send our doom who was in charge at the time,
- 55:05Speaker 4: and what she did to the people of New Zealand
- 55:07Speaker 4: was very, very disturbing. So Phase two of the inquiry
- 55:11Speaker 4: you could read the details there, there's quite a bit,
- 55:13Speaker 4: but the part that I wanted you to see was
- 55:14Speaker 4: that the way they worded it was quite I thought,
- 55:17Speaker 4: rather insulting. They said, Phase two is focusing on the
- 55:20Speaker 4: topics anti mandate groups got most hung up on, such
- 55:23Speaker 4: as vaccines, lockdowns and mandates. So she took that for
- 55:28Speaker 4: real and her group, which has all been about supporting
- 55:30Speaker 4: the vaccine injured and so on in New Zealand, she
- 55:33Speaker 4: decided to go ahead and take care of that. So
- 55:36Speaker 4: this is her website, the Health Form New Zealand supporting
- 55:38Speaker 4: COVID Vaccine Impacted. They call it Vaccine Impacted in New Zealand,
- 55:43Speaker 4: New Zealanders. And here's a quote from her. This was
- 55:46Speaker 4: an email that she sent to me a few days ago.
- 55:48Speaker 4: Because she worked really hard to meet the deadline for
- 55:51Speaker 4: getting submissions from the public. And as for the final deadline,
- 55:55Speaker 4: as of on Friday, there had only been seventy three
- 55:58Speaker 4: hundred submissions after forty eight hours of manic posting, emailing
- 56:01Speaker 4: Facebook lives in sixteen hour days, we finished with thirty
- 56:05Speaker 4: one thousand submissions. Certainly not what the commissioners had been expecting,
- 56:09Speaker 4: but we are all overwhelmed and delighted. The Health Forum
- 56:11Speaker 4: submission was huge and in several different parts. I'm sending
- 56:14Speaker 4: you just a few of the documents we wrote to
- 56:16Speaker 4: serve as an overview to the Health Forum and the
- 56:19Speaker 4: New Zealand COVID experience, and just to show a couple
- 56:23Speaker 4: of photos that she sent me. I'm still looking through
- 56:25Speaker 4: the documents that she sent me, but she told me
- 56:27Speaker 4: I was free to share what she had sent to me.
- 56:29Speaker 4: So here's a photo of different vaccine injured people telling
- 56:33Speaker 4: their stories saying, please know my mandates. The focus of
- 56:37Speaker 4: their submission was about employment mandates, because in New Zealand
- 56:39Speaker 4: you weren't allowed to work if you didn't get vaccinated.
- 56:42Speaker 4: So here's a lady who said, I refused to be
- 56:44Speaker 4: a trial subject, my body, my choice. Eighteen years caregiver.
- 56:47Speaker 4: Vaccine took my friend, almost took my partner. Now it
- 56:50Speaker 4: has taken my livelihood eleven years and midwife said somebody
- 56:55Speaker 4: else advocating informed decisions, where's ours? Coercion is not a choice.
- 57:00Speaker 4: So there's a huge submission of all these people. There's
- 57:02Speaker 4: a joint submission and as I said, over thirty thousand
- 57:05Speaker 4: submissions and getting all that together in just a few days.
- 57:09Speaker 4: I really hope that the New Zealand government will be
- 57:11Speaker 4: overwhelmed by this incredible evidence that they've submitted. But again,
- 57:15Speaker 4: as we've been seeing throughout the news, brand's another great
- 57:17Speaker 4: example of people actually getting out there and doing something
- 57:20Speaker 4: to let their voices be heard and let the governments
- 57:22Speaker 4: be taken health to account to what they've done to us.
- 57:25Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yes, it's outstanding to see people
- 57:29Speaker 1: getting out and tackling what's happening. We have to understand
- 57:33Speaker 1: what is being done, how we're being attacked, especially the
- 57:36Speaker 1: attacks on our minds, and then we have to get
- 57:39Speaker 1: out there and challenge it at every level, whether that's
- 57:42Speaker 1: a political level or whether it's simply getting in at
- 57:46Speaker 1: the ground on some of those local authority meetings, parish
- 57:50Speaker 1: council meetings, in order to challenge people pushing the policy through. Well,
- 57:56Speaker 1: let's just end on this and I'll do this very quickly.
- 57:59Speaker 1: We'll cover it more detail on another day's news. But
- 58:03Speaker 1: essentially I've been pushing this interview which will come out
- 58:10Speaker 1: fairly shortly, but a really extraordinary interview with the person
- 58:14Speaker 1: down in Cornwall talking about the destruction of the church,
- 58:18Speaker 1: the Christian Church. Who is doing the destruction of the church,
- 58:22Speaker 1: the Church of England itself, But luckily Christians in Cornwall
- 58:26Speaker 1: now starting to speak out. But if you want to
- 58:28Speaker 1: know what's coming, well, this is back to twenty twenty
- 58:33Speaker 1: three Private Member's Bill, this Establishment of the Church of England,
- 58:38Speaker 1: and this we can see really what's planned now. This
- 58:43Speaker 1: seems to be stagnant at the moment, but it reflects
- 58:46Speaker 1: the mindset of people that want to completely emasculate the
- 58:52Speaker 1: Church of England. Here's the bill printed on the sixth
- 58:56Speaker 1: of December twenty twenty three, and I'll just put in
- 59:00Speaker 1: a little bit of the text here on screen. You
- 59:03Speaker 1: can obviously freeze that. But the purpose of this act
- 59:06Speaker 1: is to secure that the Church of England is disestablished
- 59:11Speaker 1: and all the powers over faith, doctrine, liturgy, property, discipline
- 59:16Speaker 1: and appointments now exercised over or on behalf of that church.
- 59:21Speaker 1: But the Crown Parliament or private patrons are transferred in
- 59:24Speaker 1: their entirety to the General sin or to the Church
- 59:27Speaker 1: of England, to be exercised in accordance with any rules
- 59:31Speaker 1: determined by that body. Why this has become so significant
- 59:35Speaker 1: for me is that the Christians in Cornwall are talking
- 59:38Speaker 1: about the Church of England itself, its governing bodies, destroying
- 59:43Speaker 1: churches in Cornwall and other locations in UK. It says
- 59:47Speaker 1: that committee must be established, sorry, let's just bring that
- 59:51Speaker 1: on and the committee must make recommendations to identify the
- 59:55Speaker 1: legislative changes required to disestablish the Church of England, including
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: ensuring the Sovereign no longer holds the title of Defender
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: of the Faith and Supreme Governor at the Church of England.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: Now I'm going to stop there, but we will look
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: at this in more detail. It's very clear that there
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: is a major attack on the Church of England, the
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Christian Church going on in this country, and of course
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: it's coming from the highest levels of our political system.
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: Why do they need to do this? This follows the
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: Marxist ideology which has been a theme of today's news,
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: that you must destroy people's ability to have a connection
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: with a loving God, so I think today's news very
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: very important on this bank holiday. What can you do
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: about it? Challenge it at every opportunity in the simplest
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: way any way you can, and do it by joining
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: up with other people, because we're all stronger if we
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: work together. We must end there. Diane, thank you very
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: much for joining me at the studio. Ben, thank you
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: for coming in from studio number two, and a huge
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: thank you to all the audience that have joined us
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: today for UK Column News. If you're a member of
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: UK Column we'll be back in a few minutes for
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- 1:01:21Speaker 1: Bye bye bye