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Hour One | Cam Jordan Free Agency & Saints Cap Space · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn. Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's from a championship backfield to your morning drive.
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  Speaker 2: Hands to Hester and Hester.
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  Speaker 1: Got it, Fata, You're locked in to Off the Bench
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  Speaker 1: Brack to troll live from the Raising Kine Studio. Here's
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: James, what man?
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  Speaker 4: Oh t B I think it's finally Friday. God, it
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  Speaker 4: took forever. We are here a long time and I had.
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  Speaker 5: Two days off.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. What in the world, Oh my gosh, it's Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Jake Flynn and Landra Cassie here with you. T g
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  Speaker 4: I F as the kids used to say, and.
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  Speaker 3: They don't still say it. That probably not, that's the
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  Speaker 3: nineties thing. Probably so got t g I f was.
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  Speaker 5: Are there still some t g I Fridays? Remember Fridays? Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 5: you still have them.
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe like a couple not a ton, not a ton.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: At the store, the ap game was tear we were
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  Speaker 4: talking about t g IF. As far as the ABC
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  Speaker 4: lineup on Friday nights.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about you do you are you familiar with
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  Speaker 3: this family matters? Familiar with ABC's game back in the
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  Speaker 3: late nineties, No, no, yeah, Boy Meets World step by step,
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  Speaker 3: day by day, day by Yeah, Family Matters is on
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  Speaker 3: there too. I'm pretty sure it matters. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 3: think of the fourth one. Sorry, can't do it. Probably
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  Speaker 3: America is funny. Some videos leading up to six point thirty,
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  Speaker 3: right before TJF started at seven with Bob saggett oh yeah, yeah, Legend,
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  Speaker 3: full House at full House, full.
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  Speaker 4: House of Family Matters, Boy Meets World, step by Step,
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  Speaker 4: and Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
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  Speaker 5: I still love Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we forget full House. That's on us now. I
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  Speaker 3: got it right before you said it. I got there.
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  Speaker 3: I got there via America's fund, his own videos and
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  Speaker 3: Bob sag.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we got there perfect. Strangers used to be
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  Speaker 4: on there too, Strangers I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll see the guys. Oh yeah, if you you know,
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  Speaker 3: got into my head. If you had asked me to
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  Speaker 3: do Sabrina the Teenage Witch, I would have said Nickelodeon
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  Speaker 3: for some reason. But that was the same actress, I believe,
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  Speaker 3: just she was explaining it all. Clarissa, Yeah, oh Clarissa, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: good names are kid Clarissa. Her parents.
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  Speaker 5: Don't know many Clarissa's Is that Clarissa Thompson.
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  Speaker 3: Clarissa Thompson named after Clarissa explained it all. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: show that was that was kind of a thinking back
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  Speaker 3: on it, kind of a creepy show.
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  Speaker 5: I would like sneak in Clarissa Thompson's that. No, that's
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  Speaker 5: but what's the boxer's name? Shields? That's what it is,
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  Speaker 5: Clarissa's shields. All right, there we go, there are Clarissa's.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we found our way there? Taylor quit?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, did he tell you were just Matt?
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  Speaker 3: I ain't tell me. He told me.
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  Speaker 5: He only told Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Where was he? It must have been a hallway combo.
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  Speaker 3: He had to do something this afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: No, used to leave early, so I asked him this,
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  Speaker 5: so good.
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  Speaker 3: Deed, I got you.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Good morning, Cassie, Good morning Cassie.
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  Speaker 3: Well how early did you wake up and start prepping?
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  Speaker 5: I woke up at five thirty? Yeah, she has so
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  Speaker 5: many of them.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, how do you feel about the L s U
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  Speaker 3: lat Ull game the other night?
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  Speaker 5: What kind of see?
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  Speaker 3: Only got three minutes? We only got three minutes.
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  Speaker 5: I can't talk more than three minutes.
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  Speaker 3: All right, just kidding, okay, well two fifty nine of it.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, Cassie could probably give us pretty good breakdown because
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  Speaker 4: she's had to probably hear hunt yap about it for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of days.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, it's.
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  Speaker 6: A fair point. Yeah, just a nice breakdown.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, buddy? If you're watching the YouTube right now,
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  Speaker 3: it's literally not the same shirt. It's not different more blue,
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  Speaker 3: not even close.
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  Speaker 5: It looks the same on camera, but they are different shades.
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  Speaker 4: They are both Pancho, they are they are both the
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  Speaker 4: same hoodie.
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  Speaker 3: Just because like they might look the same under these
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  Speaker 3: uh studio lights from you line, but they're not. You
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  Speaker 3: got some good stuff that was not a shot at
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  Speaker 3: you line changed everything.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're super bright, super bright.
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  Speaker 3: I like that key chain too, Thank you. M Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I interrupted, I asked you how you're doing? I interrupted you.
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  Speaker 3: It's Friday, though, Like your energy is way above where
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  Speaker 3: it was yesterday. Yes, today it was craph Like I
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  Speaker 3: don't like friend of friend teammates to teammate. You gotta
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  Speaker 3: call it, you gotta gotta be there. I can't just
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  Speaker 3: tell you the positive. Gotta be constructive. Yeah, energy is low.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see how long it lasts. Well you got it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's what's Friday, you know you see the finish line.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, with all due respect, with all der respect, let
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  Speaker 4: me hate on you quick, no offense.
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  Speaker 3: Your energy sucked.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm doing the four hour show in
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  Speaker 4: the afternoon and just a lot going on professionally, so
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  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of stress.
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  Speaker 3: Fine, if you think about it, it's not big man.
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  Speaker 3: Don't sweat the small stuff pretty big and the next
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  Speaker 3: part of that saying is everything small stuff big picture.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, never heard that one. Ye, thank you for enlightening me.
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  Speaker 3: You're we're welcome. Where's the libby? That's what the small
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  Speaker 3: stuff people?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, still got another show, another four hour show after.
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  Speaker 4: This that third hour. Huh, don't get holler at you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: on your back, you're tire bo. Yeah, I am all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, alrighty talking about these football teams.
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  Speaker 4: Not I can kind of do it, you know whatever,
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  Speaker 4: just you know the extra hour AnyWho, No, it cares
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  Speaker 4: about that.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing? You should get one of those uh
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  Speaker 3: those little walking treadmills that's UNDERDSK treadmills.
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  Speaker 5: Oh you should.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted that, But I don't think you can, like
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  Speaker 4: you can work and do that like you can give
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  Speaker 4: like a zoom meeting and do that, But I don't
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  Speaker 4: know that you can host a radio show doing that.
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  Speaker 6: No, just uh, I got a big old feet and
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  Speaker 6: it's just doing this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you hit it a break.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah I could.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. They also have those under desk like uh,
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  Speaker 3: little petals like riding a bike. Not really, but like
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  Speaker 3: you just pad a little bit. Yeah it would be
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  Speaker 3: that would be pretty quiet.
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  Speaker 6: While am I working out again?
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  Speaker 3: Stops you if I'm getting tired, I don't. I'm just trying
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  Speaker 3: to help buddy, trying to help the NFL listeners out there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they're getting the takes. To worry about that getting
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  Speaker 4: those takes, Huh, I'm getting. I love that they are.
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  Speaker 3: I got a good NFL take for you today, not
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  Speaker 3: this segment. See these notes. Green and pink today. The
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  Speaker 3: green and pink are today the most I've ever seen
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  Speaker 3: on that paper I read. I can't read that chicken scratch, Olandra,
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  Speaker 3: how you doing doing great? The bangs hair done on
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  Speaker 3: a Friday, It's.
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  Speaker 5: Actually not done. The bangs are the only thing that
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  Speaker 5: are done. The last two days. My hair was done.
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  Speaker 5: I had it straight right now, I washed it, so
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  Speaker 5: it's not straight anymore affair.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's the only thing that you can see in
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  Speaker 3: front of the just the bank, the headphones.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, sometimes I don't feel like doing.
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  Speaker 6: Them feels like a commitment.
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  Speaker 3: Literally, they don't have to do anything. Yeah, yeah, it.
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  Speaker 6: Feels like bans are like it's a commitment.
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  Speaker 3: And so I had.
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  Speaker 5: Them for a while, like a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe I had them for a while and then I
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  Speaker 5: grew them out because I was like over it, and
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  Speaker 5: then I got current banks, and now I'm back to
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  Speaker 5: these people care about.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the bangs are kind of like a
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  Speaker 3: full brimmed cap or hat or a fanny pack or
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  Speaker 3: something like that, Like you either wear it or they
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  Speaker 3: wear you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta wear it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta wear with confidence.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I wear bangs. They don't wear me.
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  Speaker 3: Like you got to. You have to wear with confidence.
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  Speaker 3: You got to own it because you'll get owned yeah
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  Speaker 3: real fast. Kind of like you know, that's what I say.
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  Speaker 3: A full brimmed cap for a guy, A full brim
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  Speaker 3: like Cam Newton hats.
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  Speaker 6: Oh okay, but I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: We Cam Newton like crazy hats for guys. They could
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  Speaker 3: wear you real fast, right if you don't own it.
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  Speaker 3: You got to own that hat.
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  Speaker 5: I know Cam owns it, but I still feel like
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  Speaker 5: the hats wear him. They're ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: And then he cuts the hole off the top of them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but like you ever seen like one
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  Speaker 3: of those hats on like a beta male. Yeah, true,
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  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't look good. You're like, no, take that
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  Speaker 3: hat off.
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  Speaker 5: Your dork, or like the paper boy hats.
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  Speaker 3: The paper boy hats doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 6: But but paper like the peaky blinder hat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could tell. The guys that walk down the
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  Speaker 3: street that wear him, You're like, they're owning it. They're
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  Speaker 3: wearing a confidence and those guys that aren't real sure
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  Speaker 3: about it. But a beta's friend of their wife made
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  Speaker 3: to put it on. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, wait, that's like hipsters, like hipsters.
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  Speaker 6: What it's time changed this week?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: You spring forward, which is good. I love spring forward
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  Speaker 5: more sunly.
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  Speaker 3: You need you that extra hour sleep.
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  Speaker 4: So what he's trying to say, Oh, oh, well, it's
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  Speaker 4: not a well, it's not a well you have to
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  Speaker 4: deal with me on Monday.
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  Speaker 5: On Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: I think it goes springs back to normal time, right.
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  Speaker 5: No daylight savings is I don't know, don't I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe an hour on normal time. This
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  Speaker 3: is an hours sleep. Oh boy, here we go. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: do you have any like sad violin music to play?
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  Speaker 3: Right now?
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  Speaker 5: You can get it.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, it's not a big deal. No, just want
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  Speaker 3: to play.
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  Speaker 5: It right here, not off the top of my head.
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  Speaker 3: Now, okay, buddy, we're just having this good conversation about
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  Speaker 3: hats wearing people and then.
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  Speaker 5: Sad killed your vibe.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Jake, tell me about that sleep you're gonna miss.
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  Speaker 5: It's an hour.
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  Speaker 3: It's an hour.
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  Speaker 5: An hour gone, yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's an hour that I'll never ever get to achieve
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  Speaker 4: the rest that I had when I had the hour.
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  Speaker 3: I do know that sleep professionals say that you can't
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  Speaker 3: ever make up sleep that you miss. You can't get
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  Speaker 3: it back. You can try, but you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: get it back. I don't like, like Bain, Well, it'll
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  Speaker 3: be dark in the morning. It's starting to get light
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  Speaker 3: when I leave the house now. Just adopted the dark.
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  Speaker 6: I was molded in it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, this extra hour of talking got you like
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  Speaker 3: all frazzled. Well, I hope that you're okay, get it together.
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  Speaker 3: I hope that's going to be all right. You're acting
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  Speaker 3: like if a door would absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Where you right now, or would wear you where would
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  Speaker 6: wear you?
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  Speaker 5: Don't put one on because it's not gonna look look
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  Speaker 5: like a Jason Man. Oh yeah, Jason raz That fedora
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  Speaker 5: was wearing.
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  Speaker 6: Him, honestly, Like I kind of made it his thing though,
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  Speaker 6: Like you.
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  Speaker 3: Put that guy what's his name, the guy that played
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  Speaker 3: Tommy Tommy.
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  Speaker 6: Shelby Killian Murphy, Murphy.
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  Speaker 3: You put him in like a different role in.
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  Speaker 4: Respect to that guy, just one best actor, incredibly handsome.
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  Speaker 3: Put him in a different role where he's got to
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  Speaker 3: play a beta male and he's not looking good in
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  Speaker 3: the Fedora, but you make him act like Tommy Shelby.
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  Speaker 3: My god, I can't see him anything else, think about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather just see him in the other hat. Mhmm.
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  Speaker 6: Rather the paper boy had Yeah, what other have? The
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  Speaker 6: paper paper.
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  Speaker 3: With the razor blade in it. Yeah, That's what I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about. You said for door, I meant, I meant paperway. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you screwed this up, all right, We'll get to like
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  Speaker 3: sports and stuff. I think I complain in about an
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  Speaker 3: hour of sleep. Never seen You've never come off so weak.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care. I'm not this week. We'll see it
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  Speaker 4: in a little bit. I want to break.
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  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
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  Speaker 3: Go tome g a u X Tommies for little Y.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, right, dude, clearly see the difference.
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  Speaker 3: When you go to the website. Okay, go to go
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  Speaker 3: Tommies dot Com. Yeah, gallery of work, the whole deal.
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  Speaker 4: You can see past live results, you can customize your
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  Speaker 4: job for you.
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  Speaker 6: You can see the awards they win year after year
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  Speaker 6: after year.
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  Speaker 4: Best Windows in ben Rouge in The Advocate in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty five that went to Tommy's Windows Doors Insiding. So
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  Speaker 4: go to the website today, see what they can do
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  Speaker 4: for you. G E a u X Tommy's dot com s.
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  Speaker 3: Right, go to go Tommy's dot com. I know you've
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of options out there in Louisiana. So
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  Speaker 3: if you've got a project happen and make sure you
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  Speaker 3: give Tommy's a call. Let them show you, let them
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  Speaker 3: prove to you why they do win those awards every
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  Speaker 3: single year since two thousand and sixteen. Because when you
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  Speaker 3: work with Tommy, you're gonna clearly see the difference. Go
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  Speaker 3: to go Tommies dot com, Go Tommy's dot Com.
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  Speaker 7: All right, yeah, well I must that is. I can't
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  Speaker 7: explain it any song racing do my brain? True? I
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  Speaker 7: remember you? All right?
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  Speaker 3: Something wrong?
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  Speaker 2: What is?
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  Speaker 7: The actors?
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  Speaker 3: Eat up?
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  Speaker 7: God baby, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Hollering tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
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  Speaker 4: All right, as we get the show started, and we
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  Speaker 4: are going to do so with Cam Jordan being a
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  Speaker 4: free agent when the new league year begins next week,
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  Speaker 4: Cam gonna be a free agent for the first time
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  Speaker 4: in his career. He has played fifteen seasons and he
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  Speaker 4: is a Saints franchise sac leader.
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  Speaker 3: He did that years ago. He has one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: thirty two career sex.
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  Speaker 4: As we all know, his contract is automatically void if
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  Speaker 4: he does not have a new deal in place before the.
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  Speaker 3: New league year.
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  Speaker 4: Begins at four pm Eastern Time on Wednesday, So if
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  Speaker 4: that happens, as Saints will absorb eighteen point seven to
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  Speaker 4: six million of dead money against their twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 4: salary cap. If the Saints eye him to a new
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  Speaker 4: contract after that deadline, the dead money from the previous
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  Speaker 4: contract and any money from the new contract would both
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  Speaker 4: count against the salary cap. Now, if you remember, we
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  Speaker 4: were reworked his contract last year, so it decreased his
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  Speaker 4: base pay while adding some incentives for sacks and playing time.
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  Speaker 4: Cam did max out those incentives of two million dollars
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  Speaker 4: for sacks and finished the season with ten and a
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  Speaker 4: half sacks, and that's the most he's had since the
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty one season. He mentioned in January, So go
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  Speaker 4: back a couple of months that he ain't doing that again.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: So no more similar deal as he had a year
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: ago with incentives. He crushed those incentives and had ten
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: and a half sacks. So it's looked like it in
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: the past before. There's been times where it's like, man,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Man, okay, this is going to be
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: it for Cam in New Orleans.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: I know he said he wants to finish in New Orleans.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: But with him having ten and.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: A half sacks, he feels like he's owed much more
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: than anything. It feels like the Saints are willing to
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: offer and we could see Cam Jordan leave New Orleans
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: and finish his career somewhere else.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's and from his side of things, he's
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: certainly right. From the Saint side of things, that's, yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: you're being ultra productive, and you've been a fantastic face
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: for our franchise and an ambassador for the Saints and
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: a great player and someone that's certainly overachieved every contract.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: They're probably also saying, you know, we got to give
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: contracts to what you're going to do, not what you did.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: And it's fifteen year vet, right, fifteen years, So how
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: many more elite years does he have? I mean, we
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: said the same thing for a couple of guys with
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the Saints this year on defense who just keep on playing,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: keep on playing like they're twenty five. And so I
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: think Saints fans, of course, you would want him to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: put on that uniform. And it just because he's going
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: to test free agency doesn't mean he's not going to
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: be a Saint this year. Let's go ahead. He didn't
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: say I'm leaving the Saints. I'm gonna test this free
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: agent mark. I've never done it before. Let's see what
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: we're gonna get. I don't like what's being offered. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: don't know what else is out there, but I feel
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: like my production is still at a level that I
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: can garner more money and get more of what I
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: believe I deserve. Now, somebody is worth something that whatever
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: somebody's gonna pay for, that's the value. So we will see,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: we will see what when that league year opens, what
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: other teams really think of camp Jordan, And maybe not
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: of what they think of him, because I think he's
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: very well thought of. I'm just saying about future production, what.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: They believe in the NFL in Sacks.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's incredible, it's incredible what that guy's doing.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Fifteen years into the league.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: He had more than Max Crosby, he had more than
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Chase Young, he had more than Bradley Chubb, he had
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: more than Leatu Latu, Josh Hines, Allen Dallas, Turner yea.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: And not only that production, but what he gives to
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: you in the locker room as well. TJ. Watt. Yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: and I don't know. I mean, I like Nick under
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: how would be way more suited to tell us about
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: like what the Saints should be able to afford and
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: how they can fit him. It's easy to see you
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: the Saints paying whatever you need to. It's came Jordan.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: It's easy to say that from our seats because there's
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: always gymnastics that you can do with the salary cap.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: But in Saints have I mean you go back two days,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: they were eleven million over and now.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: They got twenty to spend.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: They restructure Chase Young's deal, which we'll get to in
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: a little bit, so they've got money to spend.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: We would love to see him in the Saints uniform.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: We love to see him continue there, but he's going
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: to test the waters. And I say good for him.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I mean I especially guys that have been such a
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: good ambassador for you, a good leader like we. Youve
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: got to hope the best for those guys at some
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: point in your career, like man, go get yours, go
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: get like what you deserve, Go get everything that you've earned.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: And maybe that is still with the Saints. We will
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: see maybe the market for a thirty six year old
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: fifteen going into sixteenth year, Like Vetter, maybe that market
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: won't command what's somebody like, uh, Trey Henderson. Trey Henderson
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: will command like which just because of an age thirty one? Yeah,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I believe it will be thirty one.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: During the season, Camp's quote was, the Saints have done
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: nothing but show that they want me to be here
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: now at what price? Some would say half off this
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: last year. Can't do that again was the exact quote
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: when he said.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I think we can all understand that, we we canna
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: all get it now. You don't want like as a player,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: especially when you are established and you've shown here and
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: you're out. You're a hell of a teammate, a hell
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: of a ambassador for your city, your franchise. Like you
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: don't want to keep having to play in hit incentive
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: based deals, right, Like you don't want to have to
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: be in that game, that seventeenth game of the year,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: trying everything, like to get a sack, to get paid
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: what you should have got paid just when you signed
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the contract.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're out there and thinking there's no
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: way he can replicate that that was just a flash
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: in the pan, I tell you, well, the tape kind
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: of tells a different story. And I also tell you
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: remember he had a new defensive coordinator and Brandon Saley,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: So he found a coordinator that got ten and a
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: half sacks out of him and ten out of the
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: guy on the other side, Chase Young.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was like unlock some pass rush.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like having him on the opposite side of Chase.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: You only he he did a lot of this without
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Chase Young there. Now with the emergence of him, his
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: performance I can only I can only see his performance
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: going up. Yeah. So there's no question to me that
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: he is absolutely you know right in the situation. Go test,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Go see what you can get at least hold the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Saints to handle the fire a little bit. Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: And again though, like the thing that's going to be
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: troublesome is we talked about, the contract will automatically void
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: if he does not have a new deal in place
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: before the new league year begins, and that is four
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: pm Eastern time on Wednesday. So if the Saints signed
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: him to a new contract after that deadline, the dead
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: money eighteen point seventy six from the previous contract. In
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: any money from the new contract, we both count against
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: the salary cap. So basically they have until Wednesday three
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: pm local.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: It's not I don't know how contracts work like at
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: that deep, at that depth, but like, if you're gonna
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: have eighteen hit your salary cap, if you don't get
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: a deal done, why don't you just offer him eighteen
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: for him to be there? I don't know how it works,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: but that's say really Layman's interpretation of this whole situation.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Layman's Layman's Layman, I'm American, You're gonna have eighteen hit.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I'd have to. I'd have to. We'd have to phone
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: a friend on this one. What's the difference?
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: You know, you're saying, like, if just give him the money,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: it's gonna count against the cap.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Anyways. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Yep.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: So it would be uh, it would be kind of
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: sad to see Cam Jordan play for anybody else. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: totally get for the player why he would want to maybe,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: you know, test the market because again, he was thirteenth
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: in the National Football League in sacks, he had more
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: sex than a lot of people were.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Making a lot more money.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: He gave you a team free friendly deal to be
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: able to go out there and prove that under the
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: new regime, that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: He could still play at a very high level. He
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: did that and then some.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: So for Cam, as much as he loves New Orleans
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: and he's he talked about it a ton, he's got
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: to go do what's best for him as well.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, lay man, lay man.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Like man, did you say hand to the fire?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Said hands the fire?
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Hold your feet?
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I get it, but.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Like, hey, hey, the ridings on the table, we know'd.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: But like, have you ever had your handheld near fire?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: It's brutal. I would say it's even worse than the feet.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: That's why I said it.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Or Jordan, what if Cam signed with the Falcons?
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, can you imagine?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think you did that. What if he did?
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Though, their edge rusher they drafted last year is in
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: a little bit of some legal trouble off the field?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what if he signed with I mean, he's out
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: signed with the Falcon What if he did? Though? Say
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: about all the teams? What if he signed back with
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: the Saints for eighteen million dollars already? All right?
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Well, as I mentioned, the Saints did make some moves.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: The Saints, I'm texting Nick, are now under the cap.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: They were evan over I believe even yesterday. Now they're
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: twenty under. We'll tell you how they got there when
• 28:04
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  Speaker 4: All right, here is some of the moves that have
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: gotten the Saints where they have some moolah to spend
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: cash money. So once we've talked about we're structured. Juwan
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Johnson converted part of his nine million dollar base salary
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: into bonus, which we see all the time. So you've
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: got several millionaire you've got Justin Reed converted part of
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: his nine point twenty five million salary to bonus cap
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: savings of around six and a half million dollars a
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: little bit under six and a half million dollars. They
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: were structured Chase Young's deal, a part of his fourteen
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: point eight million dollar base salary into signing bonus. They
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: saved almost eleven million dollars in.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: That move alone.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: So we've seen the Saints obviously kicked the can down
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the road for a long time.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: That's three players there.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: You make some changes, you convert salary into signing bonus,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: and now you get some room to breathe and you
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: got a little bit of money to spend. Saints right now,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: let's see it cleared thirty million, about thirty million, a
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: little bit over thirty million dollars, so they're going to
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: have some wiggle room to be able to bring some
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: people in add to this roster. I wish I would
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: have been one of those players that said, hey, we're
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: just going to convert all this to signing bonus and
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: you get it tomorrow.
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: That had been cool. Yeah, i'd been nice. It was
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: a fun. Dil did you have that you turn?
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: God? I hate you go ahead to make for Charles
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Woodson in Oakland? So all right, I'd pay a lot
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: of California, Texas. Yeah you did, so, I think to yep,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: it is all right, So walk us through it as
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: a player.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Walk us through those conversations, walk us through who comes
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: to you, walk us through what your agent's telling you
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: to do, pros cons.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: It was pretty easy. I was in the facility and
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I knew we were trying to get Charles Woodson. My
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: agent calls me and says, hey, they want to restructure
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: your contract to a bonus and you'll get league minimum
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: yeah as your salary. And I was like, awesome, he's
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: all right, go ahead and head upstairs. And I went
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: and signed it like four minutes later, that quick. That quick,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: it was already negotiated when like when he called me,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: because it's like you're not going to say no to that,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: so like the contract is already drawn. I got traded
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: to Oakland.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Correct, They paid off the rest of the Seattle deal
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: with this was the second year for the second year.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that was like my when I signed
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: with Seattle, that was the signing bonus, right, you got
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: your signing bonus plus the salary. Yeah, then your second
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: year is all salary. There is no more bonus to it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: So I had a second year's salary in Oakland, which
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: they traded for and then it got restructured. So the
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: third year was there was a three year contract originally
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: in Seattle, but third year, like second and third year
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: had second year had some guarantees. Yeah, third year had nothing,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: nothing guaranteed. It was like the third year would have
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: been the biggest one of the but it was not.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: It was had zero dollars guaranteed. Yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: So they took my second year and they just restructured
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the whole thing, converted it all to a like a
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: just a re signing bonus.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: And then I got league minimum as the salary. Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: So like in the season, those checks weren't fun, but
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: that when you signed initially it was fun.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Super fun. So I read the bottom line the second
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: about of mine, Uncle Sam and uncle California.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Sun tax in California's like, oh my god, whether it's
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: not that good.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: You don't like paying more than you make? I don't.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I don't like paying more to make, like four more
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: than I make.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, remember the year hit all my incentives, every every
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: incentive I had in my rookie deal, like going to
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: my four year hit them All Player Performance, Pro Bowl voting,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: all of it. Right, So for a full back, it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: public record, Like I don't really care I made one
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: point four. Yeah, I was like yeah, because I was
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: a league minimum guy. Like I got a nice signing
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: bonus being a third round pay, but I was a
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: league minimum guy. So like when I hit all that,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: it's like the first time it wasn't league minimum. And
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I do remember like getting the check and like the
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: anticipation of like seeing it and then looking and seeing
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: that you paid.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: More than you paid. I mean it's like, you know,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: like christ River, right, right, I know, but it's still
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: it's still it's still not fun.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you see that you've given the government more
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: than they've given you, it's not fun no matter how
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: much money.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Let me, I'll tell you, Okay, I'll share. This is
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a vulnerable job. Right, we share a lot about ourselves
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: that we normally wouldn't. I'll share something else that was
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: actually so during that bonus when I get restructured to
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: a bonus at that time, and this is out worked everywhere,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Like your salary in the NFL is where you play football,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: so like you pay taxes where you pay football, So
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: like if you are let's just say you're you play
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, you have no state income tax. But
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: if you fly to La to play the Rams for
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: that week's check, you pay California taxes for that week
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: because you worked in California that week. So your taxes
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: are pretty robust at the end of the year because
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: you're filing taxes in like ten different states, fifteen different
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: states whatever it is, right because you worked in those states.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: So at for a long time the NFL, I don't
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: know how it is now, certainly not in the California,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: but like if you got converted to a bone, you
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: could pay taxes on your bonus wherever you claimed residency.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: So I just came from Seattle, where I spent the year. Right,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Seattle or Washington has no state, no state tax. So
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I spent more than half the year in Seattle. The
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: year I got traded, we had our house, I was
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: registered to vote there, like everything was like everything was
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: buttoned up. So at the time I paid no state
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: income tax on that converted bonus, which was like fourteen percent. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: well twenty like seventeen or eighteen comes around California revenue.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: This comes afterward they did a they did a tax
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: grab on athletes, performers, musicians, actors, all people that had
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: bonuses that didn't live in California that got paid and
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: did the same thing. And they did a cash grow
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: and the first person that appealed it lost the president everybody.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: And like, talking about a check I had to write
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: that was you know, money already spent or invested or whatever,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: straight cash Ooh yeah yeah, heavy six figs, no doubt. Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: this is like five years after the fact, right my head,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: this is like, this is like five years after the fact. Yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: It was very and those checks aren't coming every two
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: weeks like they were. It was very heartbreaking. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: might cry for you.
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  Speaker 3: I just wrote a check into the whole hydration game. No, no,
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  Speaker 3: So it was fun A little little insight. There's a
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  Speaker 3: vulnerable job.
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  Speaker 6: Who's the guy that lost it from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. He's really a hell though. Yeah that
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  Speaker 3: guy sucks. Get your better attorney. Geez m, little cash
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  Speaker 3: graft from California. So like when I say I don't
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  Speaker 3: like California, there's a good reason. You do. Have a
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  Speaker 3: deep pay for him. Well it's trash fight.
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  Speaker 4: Look, also have a hate for paying taxes and places.
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  Speaker 4: We spent thirty six hours in sucks. Any who's I'll
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  Speaker 4: tell you get under the cap. You say, hey, your
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  Speaker 4: salary is gonna be ten million. What if we make
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  Speaker 4: it a million, but we give you the other nine
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  Speaker 4: right now today probably tomorrow, could have checked tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds fun.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So every player is going to do it because
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  Speaker 4: they get guaranteed upfront right now money. Nobody's gonna turn
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  Speaker 4: that down. So that's how it works. If the NFL
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  Speaker 4: ever gets rid of that, like they make that where
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: you can't do that, everybody's in trouble. Everybody's in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Every single everybody's racing to sign those deals, especially if
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  Speaker 3: at the time you think you're gonna avoid some state
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  Speaker 3: sales tax.
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  Speaker 8: A Lee, that's I mean, that's I'm sorry man, Hey,
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  Speaker 8: it's okay, dude. That's water in the bridge seven years ago. Yeah, that,
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  Speaker 8: but you paid for the bridge though.
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  Speaker 3: California is doing pretty good with all those taxes though
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  Speaker 3: that they oh yeah, yeah, they're doing fine fiscally. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: they put it to good use. That the big gaff.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we will take a break.
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  Speaker 1: The mirror, Simmis, It tells me it's a shid, but
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  Speaker 1: not finished. From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets
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  Speaker 1: off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Carrying your shoes.
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  Speaker 7: Just once again. I was just dreaming.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's three.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm trying to change your mind. That's chilling.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's three in the morning Arctic
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  Speaker 4: monkeys and yetn't changed the mind.
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  Speaker 3: Buddy, you just gotta go live to fight another day.
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  Speaker 5: I think you know, you gotta charge it to the game.
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  Speaker 7: I think, yeah, like.
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  Speaker 4: Three am my guy, Like I appreciate the battle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate the fight. The ball up top saving us
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  Speaker 4: to tell us nothing good happens after midnight.
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  Speaker 3: If you can't if you can't get it in him
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  Speaker 3: about midnight, ain't gonna happen.
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  Speaker 4: He actually used to say that, like, if you can't
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  Speaker 4: seal the deal by midnight, it ain't gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: It's not happening.
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  Speaker 5: That's great advice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what he used to say, that's true.
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  Speaker 5: That man, New Ball and Life.
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  Speaker 6: All right, another segment, another New Orleans Saints restructured contract.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: Our guy Nicko Underhill reports the Saints and Alvin Kamara
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: converted ten point one five five million of his salary,
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: but he says it was not the same standard conversion
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: that Justin Reed, Juwan Johnson, and Chase Young had. So
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: the Saints and Kamara have adjusted his contract, lowering his
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: cap number four twenty twenty six by eight million dollars.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: So the way that they did it, it's not the
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: base salary to bonus conversion. Says it provides cat flexibility
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: if he's not with the team.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Ooh okay, uh.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: M hm, Micky out here doing a lot of deals,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: lots of deals, make lots of stuff.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I mean it took him, it took him a few decades,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: but he's really getting the hang of this thing. It
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: took forever really coming into his own though, finding his groove,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: finding his stride. I don't know what's gonna happen with
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: camp Jeordan not trust Mickey, though.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm gonna go that far.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: What just trying to make sure our listeners are listening.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: We was listening.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: So they have done a lot of work to now
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: have some available money to spend. So now the math
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: on the draft changes a little bit because you can
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: attack some of those things in free agency that we
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: just didn't think you're gonna have the money to be
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: able to go out there and attack. We weren't really
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: sure what that was going to look like. So it
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: you know, interior offensive line needs an upgrade. We've talked
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: about that for years, So now you can attack that
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: in free agency. You got to see where Alante Taylor
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: is a couple of different scenarios out from the New
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Orleans Saints. But now that you do have the money
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: to spend, and you look, you're not gonna go out
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: there and you know, give thirty million dollars to a receiver,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: But if you can upgrade your into your offensive line
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: with the money that you save, protect your young quarterback,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: get rid of what you've had for years, it's been
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: really bad upfront at that position.
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: And then you attack the draft and you get the
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: other stuff.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: But like, you can find some really good interior offensive
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: line in free agency, and we can explore some of
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: those names when we come back here on OTV.
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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench,