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Christopher Sansone – Longing · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science, and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors, and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. What if your deepest longing isn't a problem
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Speaker 1: to fix but a sacred invitation? Is there a way
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Speaker 1: to release inherited wounds of fear and shame and create
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Speaker 1: space for inner peace? My guest this week on Destination Unlimited,
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Speaker 1: Christopher Sansone, blends modern psychology, ancient wisdom, and self guided
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Speaker 1: transformation to help you turn your yearning into a path
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Speaker 1: of healing and empowerment. Christopher Sanson is a seasoned life
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Speaker 1: leadership and spiritual teacher and coach with more than twenty
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Speaker 1: five years of experience, holding a PhD in Human Development
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Speaker 1: from the Fielding Graduate Institute and integrating human development theory,
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Speaker 1: transpersonal psychology, and post traumatic growth into an evidence based
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Speaker 1: holistic practice. A certified practitioner of Past life regression therapy
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Speaker 1: and former teacher of the Hoffmann Quadrinity Process, he has
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Speaker 1: empowered hundreds of clients through his training at the Coactive
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Speaker 1: Training Institute to lead with purpose, integrity, and self awareness.
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Speaker 1: His website is Live lifesoul dot com and he joins
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Speaker 1: me this week to share his path, practice and new book,
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Speaker 1: Long a Pilgrimage to your Quiet Power Within. Please join
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Speaker 1: me in Welcoming to Destination Unlimited. Christopher Sanson, Welcome, Chris.
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Speaker 2: Thank you Victor. It's a pleasure to be here with you.
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Speaker 1: Chris. Please share with us your early path and what
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Speaker 1: sparked your interest in human development, trans personal psychology and
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Speaker 1: post traumatic growth.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's one of those kinds of paths
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Speaker 2: that I would like to say I knew it right
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Speaker 2: away what it was and how I would had it
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Speaker 2: sort of all mapped out. That's sort of way my
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Speaker 2: mind works. But life had something more interesting in order
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Speaker 2: for me. I bounced around. I went into the family business,
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Speaker 2: was quite successful in it, but I always successful in
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Speaker 2: the exterior measures. My interior, my heart where it was
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Speaker 2: really coming from it in a deeper sense as a
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Speaker 2: young adult was not being met. I had had a
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Speaker 2: taste of working with emotionally challenged teenagers in an outward
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Speaker 2: bound type of program that really lit my fire. But
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Speaker 2: I didn't believe in myself, and it became much later
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Speaker 2: in life after a number of trials, and really the
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Speaker 2: big sort of crossing point was when we had our
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Speaker 2: oldest son, and at that time I said, you know
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Speaker 2: what am I modeling here? Just sort of tolerating? So
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Speaker 2: I obviously answered my own question embarked on a journey
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Speaker 2: that led me into a doctoral program in human development
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Speaker 2: at the Fielding Graduate Institute. And since then it's been
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Speaker 2: one step after the other. So it's been wonderful, it's
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Speaker 2: been challenging. I've done a number of different certifications in
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Speaker 2: psychological instruments and such. But one of the most intriguing
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Speaker 2: ones that I've done, and one i'm in the process
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Speaker 2: up when I recently completed, was in past life regression,
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Speaker 2: and I found it to be both mystical and healing.
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Speaker 2: And then another that I'm involved in currently is somatic channeling,
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Speaker 2: which is a whole new field yet it's an ancient
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Speaker 2: art of expression and connecting to the divine.
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Speaker 1: Tell us about the Hoffman quadrinity process that was in
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Speaker 1: your biography, How does that work?
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Speaker 2: Well, it works, It's highly effective and so in a word,
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Speaker 2: effected at detaching us from the need to live out
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Speaker 2: the ways of the generational patterns that have been passed
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Speaker 2: down to us unknowingly unintentionally from those that came before
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Speaker 2: our parents, most notably grandparents whomever were our primary caregivers.
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Speaker 2: So that's the first step of the process is to
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Speaker 2: understand that during this one week intensive period, and there's
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Speaker 2: quite a bit of preparation ahead of it, but that
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Speaker 2: there is a lineage that is creating a false self
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Speaker 2: by which many of us are highly severely committed to
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Speaker 2: fulfilling because it's all we know, it's what we've learned
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Speaker 2: to survive. As the process progresses, there's a much Once
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Speaker 2: we can release from the need to live out those harmful, habitual,
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Speaker 2: compulsive patterns, we can step into a much bigger field
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Speaker 2: of connecting to spirit, connecting to soul, and living our truth,
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Speaker 2: being fully committed and embedded in the path of our essence.
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Speaker 2: I refer to it as soul or soul essence, but
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Speaker 2: that you know, not everyone has that sort of enduring
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Speaker 2: soul connection as I did. I would say ninety five
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Speaker 2: percent of the people who succeed through the process life
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Speaker 2: at a much higher level, a much more at peace.
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Speaker 2: So that is a baseline. The spiritual side is something
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Speaker 2: that I and others I think more uniquely pursue.
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Speaker 1: Wonderful. You know, it's really interesting. When I was a kid,
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Speaker 1: I never felt my father loved me until I was
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Speaker 1: eight years old and he became ill and I became
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Speaker 1: part of his caretaking team with my mother, and it
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Speaker 1: wired in my young mind if you care for others,
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Speaker 1: you will be loved. And it set a pattern of
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Speaker 1: my life. You know, the old expression they call people
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Speaker 1: a people pleaser. It set that pattern in my life
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Speaker 1: until my early fifties, my late forties, my early fifties,
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Speaker 1: when I recognized that I was neglecting my own health
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Speaker 1: and needs and running around taking care of others who
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Speaker 1: really could have taken care of themselves. And for the
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Speaker 1: first time in my life, I learned the power of
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Speaker 1: the word no, and it changed my life.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful, Yes, Victor, that that would be emblematic of an
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Speaker 2: achievement that want, a lifetime achievement that one would intend
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Speaker 2: to get through their experience of the Hoffmann Quadrinty process.
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Speaker 2: That is precisely what I'm referring to, is we live
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Speaker 2: out these lineages unknowingly and if our parents majority of
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Speaker 2: our parents knew that that was happening, they would be
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Speaker 2: a guest. They would they would have great regret and
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Speaker 2: want to change that for us. They don't want this
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Speaker 2: to happen. It just does. It's human. It's human nature,
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Speaker 2: and there's something that I have found to be intentional
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Speaker 2: about that misguided way into self.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So tell us what inspired your new book, Longing,
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Speaker 1: A pilgrimage to your quiet power within?
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Speaker 2: Yes, so Longing. I did not set out to write Longing,
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Speaker 2: although you know, as part of my doctoral studies I
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Speaker 2: wrote plenty. I wrote what I would consider a book,
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Speaker 2: my dissertation, and then what gun From time to time
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Speaker 2: write pieces that I would have published in periodicals. I
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Speaker 2: did actually three research pieces that were published in the
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Speaker 2: Organization Development Journal, for instance. But this was a whole
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Speaker 2: different thing. I was meeting with a trusted advisor. She
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Speaker 2: was a medium. Victoria had done a number of sessions
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Speaker 2: with me, and then later on in our relationship, she said,
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Speaker 2: as she was channeling my spirit guides, they are showing
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Speaker 2: me a book and I said interesting. She said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's a big book, and they are conveying to me
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Speaker 2: that you are to write a book. And I said, oh, okay,
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Speaker 2: more curious than anything. I was not on my agenda.
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Speaker 2: She said, don't worry, it will come. So all right.
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Speaker 2: Well I didn't wait, and sort of being in the
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Speaker 2: ambitious mode as I had been trained to do and
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Speaker 2: my own child, I went to work just like a researcher.
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Speaker 2: I started pulling down the latest human development theory, more
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Speaker 2: specifically integral theory, and looked at the upper levels of
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Speaker 2: the upper dimensions of the human evolution and consciousness and
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Speaker 2: was studying it from that standpoint. I wrote it effectively
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Speaker 2: a literature review. About three months later, got back with Victoria,
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Speaker 2: who said, you gave me that thought like the waves sign.
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Speaker 2: No they're they're giving me. They're saying you're doing this wrong.
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Speaker 2: That is not the book. That's all good to know,
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Speaker 2: no time wasted, and there's something else you need to
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Speaker 2: let go. You need to surrender. This was at the
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Speaker 2: time of onset of COVID end of twenty nineteen. My
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Speaker 2: father had just died late that December, and my mother
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Speaker 2: was in hospice and who would pass That was May
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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, and so with COVID coming on, parents leaving,
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Speaker 2: I was in the place of grief, but I was
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Speaker 2: determined and a bit defiant. So I grabbed a tablet
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Speaker 2: of paper, took a pen, lay down on the floor
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Speaker 2: and said, what, okay, what what am I to write?
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Speaker 2: And dropped into some a semi trance state and a
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Speaker 2: poem came. Hadn't written any poetry, Well, poem came. And
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Speaker 2: then from there I kept writing and writing and writing,
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Speaker 2: and it just flowed, and I began to trust what
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Speaker 2: was coming. That night, the first night, I completed an
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Speaker 2: entire tablet, the next night the same, and on and
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Speaker 2: on and on, until I had some eight tablets of
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Speaker 2: paper completed, some of it repetitive, some of it illegible,
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Speaker 2: but there was a constant flow of information that was
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Speaker 2: coming through me that had peaqued my curiosity. And then
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Speaker 2: I spent more time deciphering what I had written, transcribing it.
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Speaker 2: Spent about a week down Tyles, New Mexico, shelled up
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Speaker 2: in a wonderful little inn, and went to work on it.
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Speaker 2: And it's been a now six year project of pulling
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Speaker 2: it all together, but again unintentional. Once I surrendered, it
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Speaker 2: was in effect, I'll say, conservatively speaking, it was easy.
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Speaker 2: It was pure joy writing the book, but always challenging still,
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Speaker 2: but a pure joy. I loved every minute of working
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Speaker 2: on it.
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Speaker 1: Tell us about that process of surrender, what was that
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Speaker 1: like for you?
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Speaker 2: Well, as I said, it wasn't my sort of my
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Speaker 2: natural ilk. My natural ilk is to take on something
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Speaker 2: and just go full on into it and look at
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Speaker 2: the sort of the end goal. Right, It's like come.
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Speaker 2: So many of us are taught to achieve in life,
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Speaker 2: and it's a way of being that has its role
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Speaker 2: when we need to accomplish something. We need to earn money,
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Speaker 2: secure a household, get our children into good schools, and
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Speaker 2: do all the things we need to, all the decision
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Speaker 2: and executive function that we need to do. Wonderful. But
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Speaker 2: there's something else, and that is this notion of release,
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Speaker 2: of surrender, not surrender as in wave of the White flag. Well,
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Speaker 2: nor is it submission like I give up. It's a release.
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Speaker 2: What we are in fact releasing is the need to know,
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Speaker 2: the need to control. Once I could step into that more,
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Speaker 2: I would term feminine energy of releasing and allowing, then
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Speaker 2: things became easy. Things became a matter of flow and attention,
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Speaker 2: attending to what was coming, and not try to over
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Speaker 2: assert or control anything, but to be with the process,
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Speaker 2: so that in that way I would define it as
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Speaker 2: a feminine energy, a very powerful feminine energy that was
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Speaker 2: flowing through me, and to respect that, and then as
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Speaker 2: I need to be, I can assert myself and submit
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Speaker 2: it to publishers and do what I need to do,
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Speaker 2: get this edited, and do all of the sort of
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Speaker 2: achievement steps. But what I stepped into was something altogether
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Speaker 2: different as I had been oriented in life. So it
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Speaker 2: was surrender. It was letting go, releasing, not giving up, releasing, allowing.
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Speaker 1: It almost sounds like a birthing process.
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Speaker 2: How well put. I never really thought of it that way. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: a birthing process of attending to the gestation, right, something's
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Speaker 2: happening here, something is growing, and first of all knowing
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Speaker 2: that and then stepping into a place of acceptance to
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Speaker 2: say what is my responsibility to this? And then allowing.
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Speaker 2: That is the power of surrender. It is hugely powerful,
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Speaker 2: as I have found and enjoyable. I don't have to
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Speaker 2: know all the answers. I'd have to be the smart
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Speaker 2: guy figuring it all out and writing a research findings
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Speaker 2: and proving my points. And I could simply let this go.
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Speaker 2: That said, I did inform it by a good what
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Speaker 2: I wrote as longing in the pages that would follow,
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Speaker 2: I did substantiate much of what I said through Eastern
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Speaker 2: philosophies and Western ways of knowing of measuring spiritual experiences,
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Speaker 2: and I used a structured framework for interviews that I
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Speaker 2: did four people who experienced effectively post traumatic growth.
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Speaker 1: Let's start talking about past life regression. What sparked your
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Speaker 1: initial interest in past life regression therapy?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, having been a teacher of the Hoffmann
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Speaker 2: Quadrinity process for some nine years, having actually completely had
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Speaker 2: my own process experience twice, I went through as a
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Speaker 2: as a you know, just a layperson, and then later
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Speaker 2: as part of my internship, I learned that the ways
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Speaker 2: that we orient to life, the way that we learned
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Speaker 2: to survive and to belong and to get and to
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Speaker 2: gain what my some might consider a sense of purpose
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Speaker 2: in life, requires adapting. It requires learning from others and
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Speaker 2: mimicking others to begin with, and that come those kind
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Speaker 2: of compulsive visual ways of being didn't. We're not going
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Speaker 2: to serve me. So I had to open up to
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Speaker 2: something that was more profound and step into the mystery
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Speaker 2: of who we are as human beings and the process
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Speaker 2: of process got me to a point of understand, Yes,
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Speaker 2: there's a lineage from parents, but then where did they
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Speaker 2: get it? Well, of course from their parents, who got
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Speaker 2: it from their parents. And yet there was always some
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Speaker 2: un sort of unaddressed questions. Well, those questions led to
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Speaker 2: the deeper impact of spirit in our lives. And I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about when I say spirit, the spirit where a
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Speaker 2: capital ask, big realm of spirit that there's something else
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Speaker 2: that has governed or influenced our being on this planet.
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Speaker 2: We could call it disposition, you know. The Myers Briggs
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Speaker 2: Type indicator, the MBTI measures disposition. It says, here you
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Speaker 2: are predisposed to being introverted to or to prefer extroversion,
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Speaker 2: or to be a logical thinker, or to be a
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Speaker 2: heart based thinker, all kinds of orientations. Right, But where
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Speaker 2: did those come from? What influence might have proceeded this
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Speaker 2: lifetime that is still in fact playing in this lifetime.
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Speaker 2: And it answered, I should say, my experience in past
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Speaker 2: life progression itself as a as a recipient, answered some
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Speaker 2: looming questions that I could not get through our get
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Speaker 2: to by way of normal psychotherapy means or through the
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Speaker 2: exceptional means of the Hoffmann process, or through psilocybin experiences
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Speaker 2: or ketamine assisted therapy sessions, of which I've had all
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Speaker 2: but this was different. This made a lot of sense,
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Speaker 2: and it was at my disposal. It was coming to
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Speaker 2: me naturally, unaided, uninfluenced by substances. It came from me
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Speaker 2: beyond my imagination. I could not have dreamed this stuff up.
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Speaker 2: I was feeling myself at a much deeper level than
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Speaker 2: I could have or had had any experiences of doing
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Speaker 2: through those other modality. So this I alerted. It alerted
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Speaker 2: me to I would love to my place in this
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Speaker 2: of loving to deliver this work, and I do. I
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Speaker 2: love it. I see the results. People are fascinated by it,
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Speaker 2: but more importantly, they grow from it. They find a
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Speaker 2: sense of peace and love for their self.
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Speaker 1: What did you learn from your past lives in that process?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well one of them was an I'll tell you
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Speaker 2: I had. There were two instances, or maybe more than two,
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Speaker 2: but two very clear ones where I was having images
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Speaker 2: of a woman that was distressed, and I would have
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Speaker 2: estimated her age around thirty five years old, but it
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Speaker 2: was way back like seventeen hundreds or so. She was
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Speaker 2: distressed and the image I would always have her. She
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Speaker 2: was kind of strewn across the floor, but she had chains,
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Speaker 2: and she had chains on her her ankles. She couldn't
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Speaker 2: she couldn't leave. She was imprisoned and was harsh conditions.
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Speaker 2: And the view that I had was looking through a window,
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Speaker 2: like standing on a barrel or a rock, and looking
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Speaker 2: through and down into that window and knowing that that
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Speaker 2: was my mother. And this image came to me in dreams,
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Speaker 2: and it came to me in a couple of very
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Speaker 2: cute instances. And it was through past life aggression regression
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Speaker 2: that I understood who that was and why she was there.
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Speaker 2: I even had a name for her, and you might
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Speaker 2: appreciate this or her name was Victoria, and she was
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Speaker 2: someone whom I identified as my mother. And why she
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Speaker 2: was in distress played out in the past life regression
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Speaker 2: because I'd had these images, as I said, was repeated,
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Speaker 2: of this woman in distress in prison. What did that mean?
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Speaker 2: Past life regression opened the book the chapters of depth
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Speaker 2: into that experience. Why was she there? She was in prison,
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Speaker 2: She was holding to her beliefs about who she should
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Speaker 2: love and who she should marry, and to the end
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Speaker 2: held to that. And I admired her for that. Of course,
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Speaker 2: I was heartbroken as a child, and all these were
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Speaker 2: feelings that I could connect to my mother in this
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Speaker 2: lifetime and my relationship to her that went far beyond
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Speaker 2: that which we experienced together in relationship in this lifetime.
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Speaker 2: And so there was a symmetry, a clarity, and a
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Speaker 2: way of drawing peace from it. So it's never that
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Speaker 2: image has never come returned. I've had this sense of
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Speaker 2: peace about my mother and me, and I've that just
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Speaker 2: made me a firm believer once again in the power
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Speaker 2: of past life progression work.
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Speaker 1: My guests Christopher's and sown his brand new book, Longing
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Speaker 1: a pilgrimage to your quiet power within. Chris, please share
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Speaker 1: with our listeners where they can get your book and
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Speaker 1: find out more about you and your wonderful work.
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Speaker 2: I'll be happy to thank you, Victor. It's available through
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Speaker 2: Amazon dot com preorder. The release date will be June second,
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Speaker 2: and then you can simply go direct to the distributor,
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Speaker 2: Simon and Schuster's website. They have other ones Barnes and
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Speaker 2: Nobles and as well as Amazon and other places where
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Speaker 2: books are sold easy to order pre order. I appreciate
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Speaker 2: any read you might do early on as soon as
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Speaker 2: you get the book and post a favorable review. But
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Speaker 2: I think that your listeners are going to appreciate reading Longing.
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Speaker 2: I certainly enjoyed writing it for the sake of the
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Speaker 2: experiences that I provide in the book of Discovery about
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Speaker 2: the mysteries of living in the body on planet Earth
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Speaker 2: now at this time is particularly relevant.
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Speaker 1: And where may our listeners connect with you to find
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Speaker 1: out about your offerings?
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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, yeah, I'm on Facebook Chris Sansone LinkedIn might
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Speaker 2: be Christopher, but either way Christopher Chris Sansone on LinkedIn.
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Speaker 2: I'm at Instagram and my website is www dot livelifesoul
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Speaker 2: dot com, or if you prefer, you can email direct
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Speaker 2: at Chris at livelifesoul dot com. I'd be happy to
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Speaker 2: have a conversation with anyone interested.
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week, Christopher sand
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Speaker 1: Sown his brand new book Longing, a pilgrimage to your
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Speaker 1: Quiet Power with it. So let's talk a little bit
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Speaker 1: about past life regression. What happens during a past life
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Speaker 1: regression session.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a past life regression session, there are various
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Speaker 2: stages to it, and I'll say that the front end
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Speaker 2: stage is really a preparation is why are we having this?
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Speaker 2: So it's not a nameless pursuit or purely a pursuit
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Speaker 2: of curiosity, because there's a lot to be fascinated with
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Speaker 2: a past life regression experience. But really, what purpose of
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Speaker 2: this serving? What were some of the blocks? What is
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Speaker 2: the presenting issue that a person is really wanting to
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Speaker 2: address in life? And usually by the time a person
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Speaker 2: reaches past life regression, they've tried other things. They've tried
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Speaker 2: to psychotherapy, as I mentioned earlier, perhaps the psychoactive drug facilitation, reflection.
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Speaker 2: But here this one thing just keeps presenting, and it
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Speaker 2: might be the inability to form intimate partnership UH, a
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Speaker 2: failure that's repeating in certain ways around parenting that tries
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Speaker 2: as a person might as as devoted they are as
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Speaker 2: they are to their children, these same patterns come up
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Speaker 2: that are just just seemingly insurmountable. This is where past
24:41
Speaker 2: life regression really helps. So to get clear is a
24:45
Speaker 2: first step. A second step is basically parallel to what
24:50
Speaker 2: happens in a hypnosis experience, where there's an induction, there's
24:55
Speaker 2: a point of retrieval. A person can always move their
24:59
Speaker 2: self out out of a hypnotic experience, despite what we've
25:03
Speaker 2: seen in the old movies and such. It is a
25:07
Speaker 2: willful experience, meaning that we submit or excuse me, we
25:12
Speaker 2: offer ourselves into the experience and move with the flow
25:18
Speaker 2: of the subconscious and move in much deeper levels than
25:22
Speaker 2: we can and explore much deeper issues that we can
25:26
Speaker 2: in our logical, everyday frame of mind. So there's an
25:30
Speaker 2: induction into the hypnotic state, and then there's the exploration,
25:35
Speaker 2: and we will naturally aim toward having an experience of
25:40
Speaker 2: some prior lifetime. Some facet of a prior lifetime is
25:45
Speaker 2: the beginning point the endpoint of that experience is the
25:51
Speaker 2: sort of what we call the soul retrieval aspect, where
25:54
Speaker 2: there's some part of the soul that has been sacrificed
25:58
Speaker 2: in terms of connectivity, it's been fragmented, and so there's
26:03
Speaker 2: a reclaiming of that fragmentation. In order to accomplish that,
26:08
Speaker 2: there has to be a process of exploration, of emotional expression,
26:14
Speaker 2: of deeper understanding, and ultimately of self forgiveness for having
26:19
Speaker 2: disconnected from this aspect of self at this lifetime and
26:24
Speaker 2: prior lifetimes. And so it becomes a very peaceful kind
26:27
Speaker 2: of endeavor where a person then moves from that sole
26:31
Speaker 2: retrieval place into a place of equanimity and balance in
26:36
Speaker 2: their current life. That allows them then to be very
26:40
Speaker 2: clear about intentions that they want to draw from their experience.
26:46
Speaker 2: So it lives on. It's not just a kind of
26:49
Speaker 2: a one off fascinating experience. Something continues from there that's
26:54
Speaker 2: quite intentional.
26:56
Speaker 1: Where is the source of that information from We talk
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Speaker 1: about the Akashak records, for example, Where is the source
27:03
Speaker 1: of that information coming from?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's such a great question. Some have had the
27:08
Speaker 2: direct experience of this being from the akashak records. In
27:11
Speaker 2: other words, they'll they'll envision a volume being opened, a
27:15
Speaker 2: book will be opened. Sometimes it's beyond the recognition of intellect,
27:21
Speaker 2: and it may simply be an intuitive hit where we
27:25
Speaker 2: get an experience and says, ah, that's clear, that makes sense,
27:30
Speaker 2: and then we can interpret that. When I say intuitive,
27:34
Speaker 2: I'm also including emotional expression. So when there's sadness, that's
27:40
Speaker 2: information and it's coming from somewhere. So if we look,
27:44
Speaker 2: my lens tends to be the seven chakras or the
27:47
Speaker 2: twelve as that may be. So from that perspective, we
27:50
Speaker 2: would go to the heart chakra, the anahata and really
27:53
Speaker 2: understand what is happening here, and this is the dwelling
27:57
Speaker 2: place in the body of the soul. Admit that the
28:00
Speaker 2: soul is actually carried in the body and not of course,
28:03
Speaker 2: not the only one to espouse that. Others back to
28:07
Speaker 2: ancient Eastern philosophy have articulated that as well as those
28:12
Speaker 2: in current times talk about the seat of the soul,
28:16
Speaker 2: that as that within the anahata, the chest area, the
28:19
Speaker 2: heart space, not on the physiological heart, but in the
28:23
Speaker 2: center of the chest. So we call it the heart
28:25
Speaker 2: space of the anahata, and so information can flow unimpeded
28:30
Speaker 2: from that space, and then interpretation can happen. We can
28:36
Speaker 2: make sense of that, and our logical mind needs to
28:38
Speaker 2: do that. And then also for us to commit to
28:41
Speaker 2: continuous change, it really helps to know what we're working with.
28:46
Speaker 2: What is this? And that's the beauty of past life
28:48
Speaker 2: progression is it brings to the surface what may otherwise
28:52
Speaker 2: be hidden.
28:53
Speaker 1: Trauma in this lifetime can be very challenging for many
28:57
Speaker 1: many people because they carry it forward. If it's childhood
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Speaker 1: based trauma, they really don't understand it. What about from
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Speaker 1: past lives? Do we carry trauma from past lives?
29:06
Speaker 2: You know we do. It's my claim. It is not
29:10
Speaker 2: only my claim, I should say my claim based on
29:12
Speaker 2: my experiences. There are researchers quite profound in the field.
29:16
Speaker 2: Roger Woolger being one of the original early researchers on
29:20
Speaker 2: past life regression. He wrote a books in the eighties
29:24
Speaker 2: titled Other Lives other Selves. I was a seminal book
29:29
Speaker 2: in terms of research in case studies. Of course, one
29:33
Speaker 2: of the most popular ones million dollar seller, excuse a
29:36
Speaker 2: million copy seller was by Brian Weis. The Oh gosh,
29:43
Speaker 2: what was it called?
29:43
Speaker 1: It was many lives, many masters.
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Speaker 2: Thank you many I know my dongue, thank you, many lives,
29:49
Speaker 2: many Masters, as well as the books by Michael Newton
29:53
Speaker 2: that document what happens in a past life regression session,
29:58
Speaker 2: and there's similariti characteristics, and so it's it's not on researched,
30:05
Speaker 2: and yet it's it's still one of those practices. It's
30:09
Speaker 2: considered i think somewhat avant garde.
30:12
Speaker 1: Please share with us the story of your client who
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Speaker 1: had been murdered in a previous life. What was discovered
30:18
Speaker 1: in your work with that client, and how the experience
30:21
Speaker 1: shaped this life.
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Speaker 2: Well, this was a good friend of mine, and she
30:26
Speaker 2: was skeptical. She didn't know about past life regression. She
30:30
Speaker 2: was unfamiliar with it, so naturally skeptical, but yet open,
30:36
Speaker 2: and she said, well, I don't really in terms of
30:40
Speaker 2: our preparation there was anything really presenting as her issue,
30:45
Speaker 2: but she was nonetheless open. The opening scene and this
30:49
Speaker 2: is very unusual. I'll say. Why it's unusual is an
30:52
Speaker 2: opening scene into the past life. So we move into
30:55
Speaker 2: the induction stage. Now we're venturing into the details of
30:59
Speaker 2: the past life, and usually begin with look around you,
31:03
Speaker 2: what do you see what's the landscape present, the colors,
31:08
Speaker 2: weather patterns. Look down, what do you see? Do you
31:12
Speaker 2: see your feet? Yes? I see my feet. What shoes
31:15
Speaker 2: are you wearing? I'm not wearing shoes. My shoes look
31:18
Speaker 2: like this. Let's move up your body. What are you
31:21
Speaker 2: wearing on your Torso I may be wearing pants, or
31:24
Speaker 2: I may be wearing a dress. And so we get
31:26
Speaker 2: very detailed in that way, and we move up through hair,
31:29
Speaker 2: we move up through age, so really ground a person
31:31
Speaker 2: in this past life perspective, and then we talk about
31:35
Speaker 2: others being around. So it's a very detailed process, but
31:38
Speaker 2: not in this one. In this one she opened to
31:43
Speaker 2: an immediate death scene, which doesn't come until much later
31:46
Speaker 2: in the induction experience. She envisioned and she felt the
31:52
Speaker 2: physical pain, not as acutely as if it was real,
31:55
Speaker 2: but enough to inform her that indeed this was the
32:00
Speaker 2: her way of death. She had died by way of
32:03
Speaker 2: impalement of a spirit through her neck, and she was
32:07
Speaker 2: at her last minute or two of consciousness, and she
32:11
Speaker 2: realized in that moment of consciousness how she had learned
32:16
Speaker 2: to self sacrifice, because this was about her demonstrating some
32:21
Speaker 2: it might have been in the sixteen hundreds oppression of
32:24
Speaker 2: women and what you know, so many often feared and
32:29
Speaker 2: called as in negative terms as witchery or you know,
32:34
Speaker 2: today we might call it him having a extra powers,
32:40
Speaker 2: extra sensory perception and ways of really connecting with spirit,
32:48
Speaker 2: and ways that we encourage today, but not then. So
32:51
Speaker 2: she had died in protest and support of her expression
32:55
Speaker 2: of her of her spiritual awareness. And in that last
33:01
Speaker 2: minute or two she reached out for her own self forgiveness,
33:07
Speaker 2: because putting herself on a line like that ultimately led
33:10
Speaker 2: to her death. So she has something to forgive herself for.
33:13
Speaker 2: And it was a touching and immediate experience, quite profound.
33:19
Speaker 2: And when we completed and we moved through the soul
33:22
Speaker 2: retrieval and making current commitments in her current lifetime, she
33:27
Speaker 2: was fascinated and surprised that that had happened. And nonetheless,
33:33
Speaker 2: or she'd say, without saying needless to say, she was
33:39
Speaker 2: convinced that this was a profound and real experience.
33:44
Speaker 1: So pains in our bodies could be from her previous life,
33:47
Speaker 1: for example, the spear or the sword killing someone.
33:50
Speaker 2: Yes, I can provide personal testimony to that. For many years,
33:56
Speaker 2: many years of my life, I have suffered with insomnia,
34:02
Speaker 2: and one of the experiences that I have, and it's
34:05
Speaker 2: it's multi dimensional, but one of the experiences that I
34:08
Speaker 2: have is a kind of a pain in what would
34:12
Speaker 2: be considered the solar plexus chakra, So right up there
34:15
Speaker 2: at the solar plexus where at the very top of
34:18
Speaker 2: the stomach, just at the crest of the rib cage,
34:21
Speaker 2: right there, I would feel this pain, this dull ache,
34:25
Speaker 2: and I evoked my somatic channeling and what I know
34:32
Speaker 2: about past life regression, coupling those two together, and I
34:35
Speaker 2: created a very rich experience for myself understanding that that
34:39
Speaker 2: was a way that I had died in a lifetime,
34:41
Speaker 2: was by way of a sword wound, so paled in
34:46
Speaker 2: my in my solar plexus, in my gut, and I
34:50
Speaker 2: went through the process of extracting that and I've this
34:54
Speaker 2: has been about six months ago. I've never had that
34:58
Speaker 2: sensation since.
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Speaker 1: Wonderful. Yeah, that's great. You worked with a modern doctor
35:05
Speaker 1: who had also been a physician during World War Two.
35:08
Speaker 1: What was that experience like.
35:10
Speaker 2: Well, that was one where once again she had presented
35:14
Speaker 2: as you know, there's some she was embarking on a
35:17
Speaker 2: new career, had been established in one and was in
35:22
Speaker 2: midlife transitioning into a new career and beginning to doubt
35:27
Speaker 2: if there you know, does anyone had some healthy self
35:30
Speaker 2: doubt and questioning and wondering, And so that was her
35:34
Speaker 2: That was sort of her presenting issue, and as we
35:37
Speaker 2: moved through it, she immediately went to a scene in
35:40
Speaker 2: Britain in the midst of World War Two where she
35:43
Speaker 2: was a physician and she was treating patients who were
35:48
Speaker 2: casualties or near casualties of the war. She basically had
35:54
Speaker 2: to hold it all together. She had to be in
35:57
Speaker 2: charge of the medical aw medical units, and was provided
36:06
Speaker 2: a very little room for her own vulnerability, her own
36:10
Speaker 2: expression of her own humanity. There was a lot of
36:13
Speaker 2: pressure on her to succeed and make no mistakes, though
36:17
Speaker 2: she embraced it, and she was quite successful at it.
36:21
Speaker 2: By the way, during this time period, she also met
36:25
Speaker 2: with her closest ally during that time period, which she
36:31
Speaker 2: later understood to be her current husband, And so she
36:35
Speaker 2: moved into that experience with that deeper awareness of, oh,
36:40
Speaker 2: this was for a purpose back then. I had to
36:44
Speaker 2: get things just right. All had to be without error
36:48
Speaker 2: or lives would suffer. So that manifested in her lifetime
36:54
Speaker 2: currently as you can't make a mistake, that you must
36:57
Speaker 2: do this perfectly. So she's moving in new territory. She
37:02
Speaker 2: of her of her dream and fulfill fulfillment of that.
37:06
Speaker 2: She was, I want to say, in her own resistance,
37:11
Speaker 2: I can't, I question, I don't know, and and living
37:14
Speaker 2: in self doubt. But once she had this awareness that oh,
37:17
Speaker 2: I've been here before, and that was in the past.
37:20
Speaker 2: This is not now, and there's a there's a healthy
37:22
Speaker 2: kind of meeting of the temporal experience of that was
37:27
Speaker 2: then this is now. I don't have to be held
37:32
Speaker 2: captive to choices of the past or conditions of the past.
37:36
Speaker 2: I can exercise my free will and move forward in
37:38
Speaker 2: a new way. And that was the regenerative, you know,
37:41
Speaker 2: sort of happy ending to this experience was she knew
37:44
Speaker 2: in this lifetime she could afford to make a few mistakes.
37:49
Speaker 2: It was okay, that was a matter of learning, and
37:52
Speaker 2: she felt much more encouraged after the experience. But again
37:58
Speaker 2: she was she was a healthy skeptic as well. She
38:01
Speaker 2: wasn't sold on the idea, but she said, you know,
38:04
Speaker 2: after all these things, I'm going to give this a try.
38:06
Speaker 1: And it was successful for her, and by connection, fears
38:10
Speaker 1: in this lifetime actually are from past lives.
38:14
Speaker 2: Well, that's what you had initially asked me, right, was
38:17
Speaker 2: around this question of how much of this gets carried
38:20
Speaker 2: over from past lives. And you know, regardless of the
38:25
Speaker 2: number of years we live, if we've lived eighty ninety
38:27
Speaker 2: years old or we lived eight or nine years old,
38:30
Speaker 2: there's always an accumulation of densities that occur. And we
38:36
Speaker 2: can say that those densities are the obstacles to our
38:42
Speaker 2: clear connection to soul, to our soul to the divine
38:47
Speaker 2: light or the universal power, and so we need to
38:50
Speaker 2: clear those densities up in order for that light to
38:52
Speaker 2: shine through fully, for that flow of peace, of love,
38:57
Speaker 2: of wellbeing, of the knowledge that it comes from knowing light,
39:02
Speaker 2: the light with a capital L, divine light. And it's
39:06
Speaker 2: these densities that obscure that. So the only way we
39:09
Speaker 2: can really connect is to clear the densities. So we
39:13
Speaker 2: do carry those densities over because we haven't had quite
39:16
Speaker 2: the opportunity to clear all of them in any given lifetime,
39:21
Speaker 2: even those that even those lives that are lived in
39:25
Speaker 2: most synchronous. It just a peaceful manner there's usually some carryover,
39:32
Speaker 2: and it's the exception. I don't know some one percent
39:35
Speaker 2: of our population that reaches that upper dimension any given
39:40
Speaker 2: time on Earth that doesn't have that in a sense
39:44
Speaker 2: into pure consciousness. But we're all working, we're all improving
39:51
Speaker 2: to release those densities. And those densities, as they say,
39:55
Speaker 2: they get carried over. Might consider like carrying around a
39:58
Speaker 2: bag of rocks, and and those the more that we
40:02
Speaker 2: can toss out those rocks, poverize them, let them go,
40:05
Speaker 2: toss them in the lake, whatever, let them go, the
40:09
Speaker 2: lighter we become. And that's one of the values of
40:13
Speaker 2: past live regression is we can heal the past, not
40:17
Speaker 2: to dwell in the past, but to heal the past
40:20
Speaker 2: and be informed by it.
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Speaker 1: I've had the experience of meeting people for the first
42:03
Speaker 1: time in this lifetime and recognizing them. Why do certain
42:07
Speaker 1: people feel instantly familiar.
42:10
Speaker 2: Because they are at the most intuitive levels, meaning from
42:15
Speaker 2: the soul perspective. There often and this is not a
42:19
Speaker 2: hard and vest rule. Then I'll get a little caveat
42:22
Speaker 2: to this, but the general rule is that there is
42:29
Speaker 2: a familiarity because you have been together some other time
42:34
Speaker 2: in some other lifetime. Now, I might have not been
42:36
Speaker 2: one you can recall like the last one or even
42:39
Speaker 2: one before that, or you can discern or a sort
42:43
Speaker 2: of approximate, but they've been in your life in some
42:47
Speaker 2: way or another. You might have had a child who
42:51
Speaker 2: was once your father, and so there's that kind of connection.
42:55
Speaker 2: I'll share one uncanny experience with my own son. When
43:01
Speaker 2: he first began to talk, began to speak, his first
43:05
Speaker 2: words were dad, Dad, Dad. When he would fall and
43:10
Speaker 2: hurt on his knee or his finger, he would cry
43:12
Speaker 2: for Daddy, And I learned that we had past live
43:16
Speaker 2: experiences together. There were different configurations, but there was something
43:22
Speaker 2: very very familiar between the two of us. And so
43:27
Speaker 2: you might say, well, your soulmates. Yeah, probably, But another
43:32
Speaker 2: way that we can look at those is there's enough
43:34
Speaker 2: synchronicities over our lifetimes that also this person can approximate
43:42
Speaker 2: someone or some familiar aspect of our lives. And this
43:47
Speaker 2: is a common occurrence in psychology, is around the experience
43:52
Speaker 2: of transference, where we step into an experience and we
43:56
Speaker 2: relate to another as if our parents or as if
43:59
Speaker 2: some authority or present in our lifetime from our past.
44:03
Speaker 2: So we can go into experience with another person where
44:07
Speaker 2: they feel like our father, even though they're younger than us.
44:11
Speaker 2: That's different than a soul connection. A soul connection has
44:17
Speaker 2: less of a charge to it. A transference experience has
44:21
Speaker 2: a charge to it. There's an emotional charge to it,
44:24
Speaker 2: usually some type of some things evoked from the past,
44:28
Speaker 2: and the advocation could be something around anxiety or anger
44:32
Speaker 2: or avoidance or fear or whatever it might be. But
44:35
Speaker 2: a soul connection has a much more grounded feeling to it,
44:39
Speaker 2: kind of a sensibility to it. There is no dispersion
44:42
Speaker 2: of power, there's nothing to sacrifice. So I don't know
44:45
Speaker 2: if that it explains or complicates your question, but it's
44:50
Speaker 2: just I think it's important to make that distinction between
44:52
Speaker 2: a transference experience and one that's a genuine soul based.
44:57
Speaker 1: Connection absolutely, and then the person we who gives us
45:01
Speaker 1: instant bad vibes, what about them?
45:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know that could be a negative transfer
45:07
Speaker 2: its experience where we meet someone that reminds us of
45:12
Speaker 2: that the part of our father that we didn't we
45:16
Speaker 2: don't want to remember, or the part of mother that
45:19
Speaker 2: was difficult to deal with. And so there are those
45:22
Speaker 2: kinds of instances, But there are those two that awaken
45:25
Speaker 2: us to the past and don't have anything to do
45:29
Speaker 2: with mother or father of today. And it could be
45:31
Speaker 2: an archetype of a person that's highly controlling, manipulative, and
45:36
Speaker 2: you say, okay, you know, I get this. My inner
45:39
Speaker 2: wisdom tells me to avoid this kind of person. And
45:42
Speaker 2: there might be one that's absolutely direct in your level
45:47
Speaker 2: of awareness of familiarity, your frame of reference, that says,
45:52
Speaker 2: I got a feeling I've seen this person before. And
45:55
Speaker 2: sometimes too often those happen in our family of origin.
46:00
Speaker 2: There's stuff to work out from the past, and we
46:03
Speaker 2: meet up in a tight situation as a family or
46:07
Speaker 2: as in a living proximity kind of a connection or
46:13
Speaker 2: school or work, and there's something to work out there.
46:17
Speaker 2: It's not always pleasant and welcome.
46:20
Speaker 1: Are there this came to mind to me. Are there
46:23
Speaker 1: new souls born with no previous lifetimes?
46:27
Speaker 6: Wow?
46:27
Speaker 2: What a great question. I don't know, and I haven't seen.
46:32
Speaker 2: I would say that we all have some exposure to
46:39
Speaker 2: and this is not to sound too abstract, but to
46:43
Speaker 2: the intergalactic forces that have affected Earth, and it's aura.
46:48
Speaker 2: It's the greater there bodies that surround Earth that we
46:55
Speaker 2: all as human beings are experiences. Up. There are new souls,
47:03
Speaker 2: certainly ones that come in at a much more rudimentary levels,
47:07
Speaker 2: and some advanced souls. And usually the advance, obviously, all
47:12
Speaker 2: of our movement is up and out, is to integrate
47:16
Speaker 2: and to basically include and transcend what we learn at
47:23
Speaker 2: each stage, and to move on. That's our that's our
47:26
Speaker 2: our motive, and that's our general path. But there are
47:29
Speaker 2: some that some of us that come in at lower
47:31
Speaker 2: levels of that progression, and so we could call those
47:34
Speaker 2: new souls. But I also submit that there is an
47:39
Speaker 2: experience that all of us universally have had as a
47:42
Speaker 2: result of being humans on this Earth.
47:45
Speaker 1: Do we plan our lives before we're born, you.
47:49
Speaker 2: Know, those aspects of our lives that we do plan absolutely,
47:52
Speaker 2: In fact, I do a pre life planning session that
47:55
Speaker 2: has more to do with defining purpose. A purpose a
47:59
Speaker 2: person and connected to their extraordinary purpose in life is
48:03
Speaker 2: a powerfully lived life. That lifetime is inspired. It knows
48:10
Speaker 2: no stoppage, meaning not that it's forceful, but it is resourceful.
48:15
Speaker 2: And so when we have that connection to what that
48:20
Speaker 2: purpose is, which we can understand at least in part,
48:26
Speaker 2: if not in full, from a pre life planning session. So, yes,
48:31
Speaker 2: souls come in with intentions. Now, some of us come
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Speaker 2: with very clear intentions, I'm going to have this child
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Speaker 2: with this person and around this time in my life.
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Speaker 2: Some of us have come in with a little more
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Speaker 2: vague kind of intentions, but the outcomes are clear. In
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Speaker 2: other words, we may come in to have a difficult experience,
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Speaker 2: to be in a war zone in order to respect life.
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Speaker 2: So where that happens, how it happens, when it happens
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Speaker 2: may be up to circumstances, but there's an intention to
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Speaker 2: come to terms with the sanctity of life. So there
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Speaker 2: is that intention. We enter into our lifetimes with clear intentions.
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Speaker 2: I think one of my own was to learn to
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Speaker 2: have a voice, was to be clear and develop that
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Speaker 2: place of certainty in trusting my heart and so as
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Speaker 2: a child I had had a very adverse experience of abuse,
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Speaker 2: and to be able to say no to the abuse,
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Speaker 2: declare my no to the abuse, and take charge of
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Speaker 2: an abusive situation I believe was an intention, a pre
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Speaker 2: life plan for my soul. How that would have that
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Speaker 2: was up to circumstances, but I would find my way
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Speaker 2: to it. As in this human form set by the
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Speaker 2: intentions of my soul.
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Speaker 1: Can regression help us with major life decisions?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I was talking referencing the earlier conversation we had
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Speaker 2: about the physician. She was moving into a new line
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Speaker 2: of work and she was on again, off again, with
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Speaker 2: a self doubt coming up too quickly but never being
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Speaker 2: able to really substantiate it. Why am I feeling this way?
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Speaker 2: Once clearing that she was able to move forward? And absolutely,
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Speaker 2: I had a circumstance of a young a young man
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Speaker 2: I had been coaching for a number of years who
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Speaker 2: was encountering his own questions about livelihood. He was newly married,
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Speaker 2: expecting to be a father soon, and he needed to
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Speaker 2: really figure out what was getting in the way of
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Speaker 2: earning his living. And it turned into this rich experience
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Speaker 2: in a past life progression session, we actually did a
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Speaker 2: couple of them, and he came to terms with having
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Speaker 2: lived a lifetime where he was sort of the good
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Speaker 2: assistant or a good second to a very powerful leader
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Speaker 2: of a tribe in which they live in some tropical
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Speaker 2: zone of the earth, and he was loyal to a
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Speaker 2: fault where he was disconnected from his own good conscience
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Speaker 2: because the leader was absolutely ignoring something that was highly
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Speaker 2: important to the well being of their group or their tribe,
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Speaker 2: and he could see it, but he wasn't speaking to
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Speaker 2: it until the situation. The situation became dire, he could
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Speaker 2: actually then see her goodness rather than an enemy, and
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Speaker 2: approach her with that and love in his hard to say,
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Speaker 2: we are headed in a very dangerous situation unless and
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Speaker 2: so he asserted hisself in that past life well in
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Speaker 2: this lifetime he came into contact with the energy of
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Speaker 2: that power and reminded himself, oh, I am a powerful being.
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Speaker 2: Despite the rearing I had as a child from my
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Speaker 2: dominant father and my my erratic mother, I am a
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Speaker 2: powerful being. And if I did it once, I can
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Speaker 2: do it again. So he built a new kind of
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Speaker 2: confidence that led him into a much more stable way
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Speaker 2: of earning his livelihood.
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Speaker 1: What would you like readers to take away from longing
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Speaker 1: a pilgrimage to your quiet power within.
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Speaker 2: Oh there's so much, you know. I just want to
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Speaker 2: say this that I so loved, As I mentioned earlier,
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Speaker 2: I so loved writing the book. I trust that your
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Speaker 2: listeners will also love the book. But if I answer
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Speaker 2: your question directly, I want readers to know that the
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Speaker 2: feeling that we have in so often in our lives,
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Speaker 2: it's even become so embedded in our consciousness is to
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Speaker 2: be numb, that we're numb to it. And that's this
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Speaker 2: feeling that something's missing. It's a melancholy. It's a feeling
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Speaker 2: of wistfulness that we attempt to fill with relationships, substances, achievements,
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Speaker 2: status privileges, but it keeps coming back and it's just there,
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Speaker 2: and it's not something to solve for. It's not something
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Speaker 2: to attempt to fill up, but to actually respond to that,
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Speaker 2: knowing that we're filled with this source of pure joy
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Speaker 2: by that that is far greater than anything that we
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Speaker 2: can meet in our everyday reality. But it's leading us
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Speaker 2: to a direction of fulfillment and moving beyond those densities
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Speaker 2: that we may have accumulated in life and connecting to
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Speaker 2: our deepest, our deepest source of life and wisdom. And
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Speaker 2: by following that longing, it signals us to dig within
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Speaker 2: ourself and release the healings that we need to find
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Speaker 2: the creative powers that are embedded within us. And that
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Speaker 2: longing comes direct from our soul. It's wanting us to
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Speaker 2: transcend all pains of suffering and to know and embrace
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Speaker 2: our purpose and to claim our share of universal peace.
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Speaker 2: And so it's longing for that self lovingness right now,
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Speaker 2: just as we are, and knowing it can never be solved.
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Speaker 2: A it's a yearning, it's an inspiration to manifest our
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Speaker 2: true calling in his lifetime.
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Speaker 1: The wisdom and experience, the wisdom and experience of my
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Speaker 1: guest Christopher Sans and his book Longing, a pilgrimage to
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Speaker 1: your quiet power within Chris one more time, Please share
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Speaker 1: with our listeners where they can get your book and
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Speaker 1: find out more about you and your wonderful work.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Victor. Yes, my book is available for pre order.
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Speaker 2: The release date is June second. Pre order by way
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Speaker 2: of Amazon and if you want to have more means
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Speaker 2: to acquiring it outside of Amazon, simply go to the
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Speaker 2: Simon and Schuster website google Longing of Pilgrimage to your
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Speaker 2: Quiet Power Within, and you will find several other outlets.
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Speaker 1: To purchase the book, and your website.
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Speaker 2: And my website www dot livelfesoul dot com, livelifsoul dot com.
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Speaker 1: Chris, thank you so much for joining us and sharing
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Speaker 1: this fascinating information.
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Speaker 2: Victor, thank you. It's been an absolute pleasure and I
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Speaker 2: so appreciate your graciousness and your interest.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor,
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Speaker 1: the voice perman of a wonderful week
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