Latest / The Dr. Randi Show / The Expert Behind the Evolution of Modern Aesthetics — Dr. Michael Gold
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- 0:28Now let's get into the episode. Hello everyone, this is the
- 0:31Doctor Randy. Show your inside look at the
- 0:34treatments, trends and technologies shaping beauty,
- 0:38aesthetics and medicine. Excited to introduce our guest
- 0:42today. He is one of the most respected
- 0:45names in cosmetic dermatology, he's the visionary behind his
- 0:49own world renowned laser and Research Center, and he's a
- 0:53global leader shaping the future of aesthetics.
- 0:56Please welcome Doctor Michael Gold.
- 0:59I like that intro. I'm not sure it's all true, but
- 1:02I'll take it. Well, it's not true.
- 1:04I did my research. So we're very excited to have
- 1:07you here today. And I've had the pleasure of
- 1:10meeting you just very briefly in Nashville.
- 1:12So it's an honor to have you on the show.
- 1:14And in my research, I found so much about you that I didn't
- 1:17know in the past. So excited to bring that to our
- 1:20listeners and viewers. So if it's OK with you, I'll
- 1:23just jump right in. Sounds good.
- 1:25Go ahead. Ready to go?
- 1:26All right, so Dr. Gold, you are recognized worldwide as one of
- 1:32the leading voices in lasers and cosmetic dermatology.
- 1:36You've built a clinic, a Research Center in Nashville,
- 1:39the doctors everywhere look to for guidance.
- 1:42What do you see as the most meaningful role that you hold in
- 1:45the aesthetics industry today? Thanks for that.
- 1:48I think when I think about what I do today, number one is
- 1:52patient care. It's actually and especially in
- 1:56the aesthetic arena and in the surgery arena that I live in,
- 2:00simple as better you and I live in a world where we hear all
- 2:04these crazy treatment options and people doing 8000 things to
- 2:09people. I've been doing this for 36
- 2:11years. So I think I've become much more
- 2:14conservative, but I've also become much more astute at
- 2:17trying to do the right thing and not just jumping for every tool
- 2:21I have. I have a lot of tools in my
- 2:23toolbox. And so I try to be really
- 2:26careful in how I approach what somebody asked me to do.
- 2:30And that means I asked them what bothers them instead of me
- 2:35walking in and going, hey, you need this, this and this.
- 2:38I've been around that enough in my career that I think it's
- 2:42important for us to take a step back and say to the patient or
- 2:47client, hey, tell me what bothers you, right?
- 2:50Because something may bother me and it may not be one bit of
- 2:54concern to that person. And so I don't want to change
- 2:57that feature or I don't want to affect that part of that person.
- 3:01So I think again, from a patient point of view, I've become much
- 3:05more interested in simple things that I know work and simple
- 3:11obviously involve devices and how I combine things together to
- 3:16try to give the best result as fast as I can.
- 3:19But fast isn't always the goal. It's an improvement over time in
- 3:23some cases, especially with some score work and other things that
- 3:27I do. I think my role here has changed
- 3:31over the years as well. I love to teach and I think that
- 3:36has become something that if you asked me 30 years ago, I would
- 3:39have said no way. But because of some of the
- 3:43things that I've done in dermatology and aesthetics, I've
- 3:47had the pleasure of traveling and teaching all over the world.
- 3:52But again, that wasn't part of the plan.
- 3:54It's become part of my life now. We deal with WhatsApp and that
- 3:59connects me to 3/4 of the world, and then I deal with WeChat and
- 4:03live my other Chinese world. And that has been a joy and
- 4:07pleasure. And we host students here.
- 4:10I call them students. Some of them are medical
- 4:13students, some of them are residents and fellows, but yet
- 4:16some of them have been in practice 20 years.
- 4:18And they come here to learn from all over the world.
- 4:21And we welcome them to come. And if I can give anybody an
- 4:25inkling of what I do, then I've done my homework.
- 4:28And so that's part of what I do. I can hear all the passion in
- 4:32what you do, and this doesn't sound like there's something
- 4:35that you decided overnight. Everything just happened
- 4:38organically and it's nice that you're sharing your knowledge
- 4:42with the world. Well, again, I think we are
- 4:45teachers, right? And that's what we're supposed
- 4:47to do. I think a lot of us forget that
- 4:50and they just, again, nothing wrong with it.
- 4:53They just put dollar signs in front of everything they do.
- 4:56I don't do that anymore and I always tell people, I live in
- 5:00Nashville. I take care of the rich of the
- 5:02rich and the poor of the poor. I don't really care anymore.
- 5:06I want to help everybody that I can help and work within budgets
- 5:11that they have. So I think that we just need to
- 5:15go back to what we were trained to do.
- 5:17I'm a dermatologist, right, first and foremost, so I still
- 5:20do rashes and skin cancers and things like that.
- 5:24The aesthetics is part of it, and I love the aesthetic arena
- 5:28and I try to play in that arena without going into the crazy
- 5:33side of what you and I both know exist out there.
- 5:37Well, it sounds like you do a very customized approach and I
- 5:40love that you're afraid to go back to basics.
- 5:42I like that so. And I'm not afraid to say no
- 5:45either, right? I think that's a learned trait
- 5:48over time. You get to a certain point in
- 5:51your career and somebody wants 10th vial or flip filler in two
- 5:54weeks. I'm not the one that's going to
- 5:57do that. Well, we're definitely hearing
- 6:01more of that and seeing more of that natural trend come back.
- 6:05So glad to see it. Glad to hear it.
- 6:07So the way I met you in Nashville was at your conference
- 6:12called Scale. So O founded Scale.
- 6:15This is one of the top aesthetic conferences in the world.
- 6:18I really enjoyed myself fair. It was great to meet you and
- 6:21your team. How has that platform shaped
- 6:25really? What treatments and technologies
- 6:27are gaining credibility in today's industry?
- 6:30Yeah. So I run scale, which is a
- 6:32meeting I run with Doctor Brian Beisman, who's a phenomenal
- 6:36ocoplastic surgeon here in Nashville.
- 6:38We're next year will be 21 years that we put this together.
- 6:43And one of the things we decided when we put this meeting
- 6:46together on both the aesthetic side and the medical derm side
- 6:51was we were going to shoot for the top Docs to teach.
- 6:58We wanted the people that publish.
- 7:00We wanted the people that did all the research to be the
- 7:03speakers, but we also insisted that they're accessible, Right.
- 7:08Again, everybody in this aesthetic space has an ego.
- 7:11And yeah, I do and you do, and I hope mine is in check at this
- 7:14point in my career. But I think we bring people who
- 7:20will not only give the top lectures that I think in the
- 7:24whole space, but they're out there talking to the attendees,
- 7:29they're mingling with the industry.
- 7:32We've taken a meeting that started with 20 people.
- 7:35And I think we had two or three companies give us a little bit
- 7:38of money to rent A room somewhere to, you know, 15-16
- 7:43hundred people this year and probably 18 or 1900 next year,
- 7:47150 vendors. We have the best anatomy course
- 7:51in the United States. We do ultrasound teaching with
- 7:54that. We do live lasers.
- 7:56We have live injectables where we do live injections.
- 8:00Each one of the faculty is sort of handpicked.
- 8:03And not only are the stalwarts of the industry, but we're also
- 8:07bringing in the new blood. So we've, we go to enough
- 8:11meetings where we recognize who the next stars are going to be.
- 8:15And we tried to bring them into our fold, if you will, to be
- 8:20able to get up on podium and not be afraid of being on a podium
- 8:24with me or Doctor Beisman or some of the other gurus that you
- 8:28know. And that's important.
- 8:30So again, it's the give back, right?
- 8:32We're not just your typical local meeting anymore.
- 8:36And we pride ourselves in putting the best show forward.
- 8:39It was a phenomenal time and you're right, I couldn't believe
- 8:42how many people I got to meet when I was there.
- 8:44So congratulations. Thank you.
- 8:46Yeah, that's been fun. Well, I'd love to dive into your
- 8:51expertise for listeners and viewers that really want to have
- 8:56their finger on the pulse of what is hot right now and what's
- 9:00gaining momentum. So if you had Dr. Gold to name
- 9:04one treatment in 2025 that consistently is delivering WOW
- 9:10results for patients, what would that be and why?
- 9:14Tough question. I always tell when I give
- 9:17lectures on, especially on toxins and things like that,
- 9:21without botulinum toxin, we wouldn't be sitting here, OK.
- 9:26And I think we have to pay homage to that part of what
- 9:29we've done and where we've been. So I think a lot of what we do
- 9:33still revolves around botulinum toxin.
- 9:36I think you're going to see some newer toxins come out, right?
- 9:39That's exciting. That's the pulse that's coming.
- 9:42The US is primed to have its first liquid toxin, and that is
- 9:47already available. Last time I checked, it was 17
- 9:50countries and probably more by now.
- 9:52But we were involved in all the US clinical trials for that, and
- 9:56it's a fascinating concept. Do you have to mix your toxins?
- 10:01Are you the whatever percent you want it to be that says I want
- 10:052.45 milliliters per vial? Or do you just want to go to the
- 10:10refrigerator, pull out the vial and pull out what how much you
- 10:13need? And that liquid toxin is gluten
- 10:16free, vegan and all that other stuff, right?
- 10:20That has a play that 20 years ago I wouldn't have dreamed of,
- 10:24but I think that's going to be an interesting play.
- 10:26And then eventually in the next few years, we're going to have a
- 10:28very short acting toxin, right? So a toxin that works within 12
- 10:33hours and last three or four weeks.
- 10:36So somebody who's still in this day and age may be a little
- 10:39nervous. It's a nice little thing to be
- 10:42able to have for them. So I think toxins still play a
- 10:45major role in what we do. I do think injectables have had
- 10:49a change of heart over the years, mainly because people are
- 10:55just used too much of them. We loved injecting and I started
- 10:58in the collagen days and moved all the way up to what we have
- 11:01now. People need to understand these
- 11:05are still occupying space even though they're moldable and
- 11:09they're easy to inject. In most cases, we still have to
- 11:13worry about potential adverse events, but they're safe and
- 11:17they work and if you use the right amounts, I think you're
- 11:20fine. I just see people just, again,
- 11:24whether it's not understanding anatomy or not understanding
- 11:28what they're doing, they're just trying to put so much filler
- 11:31into places that we're seeing in some cases, some problems down
- 11:37the line, lumps and bumps and maybe granulomas if not right.
- 11:40But we do have this world of what we call the biostimulatory
- 11:44fillers and we're getting to the point now we're understanding
- 11:47the gene expressions that's going on underneath the skin.
- 11:50So are we being anti-inflammatory or pro
- 11:53inflammatory to create collagen? Are we creating adipose tissue
- 11:58because of that bio stimulatory pathway?
- 12:01So that's exciting and I think you'll see as we go into the end
- 12:04of this year, we will see some exciting new data on how the bio
- 12:09stimulatory products can play a role.
- 12:12So I think that's a great line. And then we get into devices,
- 12:16right And my wheelhouse is devices.
- 12:18So I started with intense pulse light 30 years ago and people
- 12:23thought we were the group of us that did that work sort of
- 12:26coming from a different planet. And IP LS have been around now
- 12:30for 30 years and so they are better than ever before.
- 12:37They are safer than ever before. They are more user friendly than
- 12:41ever before, but yet they still can have problems.
- 12:44And so IP LS, you know, are the most commonly used devices now
- 12:49because they're easy to use if you know the technology.
- 12:53But having said that, there's a company that it's all done by AI
- 12:56now, right? You just move your hand and we
- 12:59had fast, that's great. But now we have we can go over
- 13:02curved surfaces and the AI lets us do that seamlessly on one of
- 13:07the machines. Again, I was in China and a few
- 13:10weeks ago we were introduced to a new cut off filter, which is
- 13:15funny because it was a 755 nanometer cut off filter.
- 13:19And I actually did that work 30 years ago for hair removal, a
- 13:25few little changes in the computer software and so forth.
- 13:28Now we have something that's being promoted as an anti aging
- 13:33or for prejuvenation photo rejuvenation, but it takes one
- 13:37or two treatments and you're done.
- 13:39We're seeing revolutionary changes in that technology.
- 13:43We're seeing revolutionary changes in how we resurface the
- 13:46skin, right? Do we need to use a fractional
- 13:49CO2 or a fractional erbium laser instead of being a hybrid where
- 13:54there's two lasers, there's now three and one that just cut has
- 13:58come out. And then there is other non
- 14:02ablative and ablative fractional lasers that are just
- 14:05revolutionized how we deliver that energy to the skin.
- 14:09So every time something comes out it's safer and more user
- 14:12friendly. So we've got the new fiber laser
- 14:15for resurfacing, the cold laser. And is that the best thing out
- 14:19there? My patients love it.
- 14:21Without naming names, these are the technologies that people are
- 14:24asking for. So what's your favorite?
- 14:27What's your Hero of the Year? I think in the IPL world the
- 14:32Luminous Stellar M22 is great. I think the Cyton BBL Heroic is
- 14:39great and I think the Eclairo Ultra Clear and now they have a
- 14:43new Orlox is pretty spectacular and what it can do.
- 14:47Now having said that, I have 5060 devices, so I like a lots
- 14:52of them, but I do a lot of scar work.
- 14:54So when I'm doing scar work, hypertrophic scars and kilo, I
- 14:59use the ultra pulse. It's now called the Ultra Pulse
- 15:02Alpha. That is the deepest penetrating
- 15:05fractional CO2 on the market. And now I use something called
- 15:08the ADVA TX by Avalite, which is a diode 589 laser.
- 15:13I don't need to replace dye kits and all this other stuff and I
- 15:16think it gives me great results. So these are what I do every
- 15:19day. Sure, sure.
- 15:22So you have a few favorites, so that's good.
- 15:24I do have a few favorites and again, it varies amongst the
- 15:27companies because I work with a lot of these companies.
- 15:30But what I look at when I judge a machine is A, what have I done
- 15:35with it and B, what research have I done with it?
- 15:39But if I haven't done it, who else has done it?
- 15:42I will tell you that the soft wave device, the ultrasound soft
- 15:45wave device, again, another device that gets turned on every
- 15:49day and doesn't get shut off. And then there's the air laced
- 15:52Neo, which I think I had the first device in the early 2000s
- 15:57and it still goes all day long here.
- 15:59So again, for acne, for different things, I have a
- 16:03myriad of devices and my staff sort of read my mind and what
- 16:06I'm thinking before I even think about it.
- 16:09Sure. Well, that's impressive, how
- 16:11many devices you have. So let's talk about regenerative
- 16:15aesthetics. It's everywhere now.
- 16:17It's what everybody's talking about, what everybody wants to
- 16:19hear about, exosomes, growth factors, you name it.
- 16:24There's a large amount of conversation about this.
- 16:27Which are you most confident in today and which you still needs
- 16:32a lot more proof? I think they all need a lot
- 16:34more. So the regenerative space is the
- 16:38wild, Wild West. So the first thing I tell people
- 16:41when they asked me which they should be looking at or somebody
- 16:44came up to them and they have the best product known to man,
- 16:47asked to see their data in published papers, most can't.
- 16:53Most will tell you we have studies, we're doing studies.
- 16:57I've heard that same line for five years from most of these
- 17:00companies. There are very few companies in
- 17:02the exosome space that have clinical data.
- 17:05There are a couple, right? If you want a topical solution,
- 17:10Rion makes topicals, but they're platelet derived growth factors
- 17:16and they are added with other things.
- 17:18So I think exosomes are part of the regenerative space and we
- 17:22still have so much more to learn.
- 17:24So in the US, nobody can inject exosomes.
- 17:27It is not a drug if you inject exosomes.
- 17:30And there are people probably listening to your show that
- 17:32inject exosomes. Please stop.
- 17:35The FDA is out there looking for people.
- 17:38They're looking for companies that tell people it's OK they
- 17:41are topical cosmetics and that's where they need to be used.
- 17:44You can use something like juvesonic or micro needling like
- 17:48silferm or something to drive them into the skin.
- 17:50That's all fine but you need not inject.
- 17:55It's also interesting we have plant derived exosomes and we
- 17:59have human derived exosomes. Is 1 better than the other?
- 18:03Are plants similar to the exosomes?
- 18:06So outside the US in most places human derive is not allowed just
- 18:13because of the countries and the cultures, you can't have human
- 18:17derived products. So most of the companies
- 18:19internationally are now all in on the plant based exosomes.
- 18:24And what we need the study and we need to be shown is that at
- 18:30the molecular level, they're still influencing the same
- 18:33interleukins and growth factors that work in the wound healing
- 18:37cascade that the human based derived exosomes do.
- 18:42Some of the companies have done that stuff and some of the
- 18:45companies haven't. So again, if you're out there
- 18:49listening, make sure you see data, not just we have studies,
- 18:53not just that we're the best thing since white bread.
- 18:56It may not be the right fit without data because I'm
- 19:00data-driven. So on the skin care side,
- 19:04curious your thoughts on this. The consumers are standing in
- 19:07front of a very crowded shelf, right?
- 19:11And I'm curious your thoughts on which ingredient category has
- 19:16real science behind it and which are mostly marketing?
- 19:21I think a lot of it's marketing, but I also think same as I think
- 19:24in the regenerative space, any company that I am involved with
- 19:30has to have published data and it's interesting, published data
- 19:34can come many different ways. There are third party, what we
- 19:37call clearing houses in dermatology that when you
- 19:40mention certain names, we discarded because unfortunately
- 19:4698% of what they give you the company back is positive data.
- 19:51And that's not always correct in the real world.
- 19:54And IT, it doesn't take two hours to get 20 patients into a
- 19:59study. It takes a month or so, right?
- 20:01You have to screen the right patients.
- 20:04And if you want moderate to severe wrinkles or mild to
- 20:07moderate photo damage or brown spots or whatever, if somebody
- 20:12doesn't fit that criteria and you just throw them into the
- 20:15study because they got some brown spots on their skin, it
- 20:18makes us nervous. So.
- 20:20Over the years, some of these companies have gotten pretty
- 20:23much discredited, but companies still use them because they can
- 20:26put out that data really quick. You know, I do clinical trials
- 20:30all the time. I do FDA clinical trials on the
- 20:33medical side. I've been audited more times
- 20:36than somebody wants to be audited by the FDA and there's a
- 20:39bad number called a 483 and we've never had it because the
- 20:42data is, the data is the data, and that's how it comes out.
- 20:46So when you look at the actives that are really hot, obviously,
- 20:51yeah, retinoids are going to be around forever, right?
- 20:55And whether they're prescription like the tretinoins or the
- 20:58retinaldehydes or the retinols or the retinols, and now we're
- 21:01seeing conjugated double formulations of all these
- 21:05things. So I think Skin Better has done
- 21:08a great job with their Alpharet product.
- 21:10Hydrantity just came out with a new Retina Zone product, which
- 21:15is a exosome encapsulating the retinoid for delivery system.
- 21:20So it's a synthetic exosome that sort of helps the retinoid get
- 21:23in. But that's actually interesting
- 21:25because it's also got hyaluronic acid in there, which is still a
- 21:29hot ingredient, and the hyaluronic acid in that product
- 21:33sort of hydrates the skin. At the same time.
- 21:36We don't have the retinoid dermatitis or the retinoid
- 21:39irritation that is sort of common still.
- 21:42So I think retinoids are really important things.
- 21:45Elastin with their tetrahexal peptides have done an amazing
- 21:49job on the clinical research side.
- 21:51So I think kudos to them for doing all their work.
- 21:55We go back into the neo cutus world, the skin medical world.
- 21:59These are good companies that have done their homework over
- 22:02the last couple years for some and 2025 years for others to
- 22:06show that the products are still useful.
- 22:10There's something we call hypochlorous acid, which again,
- 22:14Hydridity makes one, but other companies make their
- 22:17hypochlorous acids. It's a magic medicine or magic
- 22:22product. It kills on contact like 99.9%
- 22:26of almost anything. So if you're doing fillers or
- 22:29you're doing procedures, you can spray this stuff right on the
- 22:32field you're working on and it sterilizes to some degree what
- 22:38you're doing. It keeps the field clean.
- 22:40I think it's just a great thing that we do when we're doing
- 22:43procedures. But I also think it's a great
- 22:45take home product because again, it reduces the inflammatory
- 22:48response. It on the medical side, it
- 22:50actually reduces itch and there's benefits to this stuff.
- 22:54So hypochlorous acid is one of the hero products still out
- 22:57there? So on a hot topic, everybody
- 23:01that comes on the show, we've been talking a little bit about
- 23:03the GLP 1 revolution, right? And everything that's happened
- 23:06in weight loss medication like semaglutides, tirzepatides, So
- 23:11obviously it's changing people's bodies, but it's also changing
- 23:15people's faces. And there are side effects to
- 23:19the skin, to the face. I'm curious what your thoughts
- 23:22are on the facial volume loss, the skin laxity.
- 23:26What are you seeing? What's your expert advice for
- 23:30the patients that listen to this show?
- 23:32And what are your thoughts as we move forward?
- 23:34Because it's only just getting bigger and bigger, the number of
- 23:38people taking these medications. So before COVID, I became a type
- 23:452 diabetic unbeknownst to me, and that was when the first drug
- 23:49was available. So I went to my internist and
- 23:55he's conservative, but he's also real particular.
- 23:59And I said, OK, I'm ready for whatever shot you want to give
- 24:01me. And he said, Nope, I want you to
- 24:03lose weight. It was interesting because my
- 24:05A1C was in the thirteens normal 6 and my wife's was like 6.5.
- 24:12So he called us both in and said what are you guys doing?
- 24:16We're like, well we watched the British Baking show, we're
- 24:19cooking, we love to eat whatever we want.
- 24:23And he said first find a new hobby and TV watching and then
- 24:27he said I want you both to diet and I'll see you in six months.
- 24:30And so we cut out everything sugar in our diet, everything
- 24:34that white bread, white pasta, everything changed.
- 24:38And in six months I lost 60 lbs and my A1C went from 13 point
- 24:44something to 5.8. All right, the world opened up
- 24:49and my travel schedule got busy. All this other eating out and
- 24:53whatever, my A1C went from 5.8 to 7.
- 24:57And he said now it's time. Which one do you want?
- 25:01So I've been on Manjiro for a year and a half, which is going
- 25:05to answer your question in a minute.
- 25:07And my A1C is 5.8. I lost the 10 lbs that I gained
- 25:11from the 60 that I lost. The good part of that is buying
- 25:15clothes is always fun. My wife and I both had to get a
- 25:18whole new wardrobe. She's down to her wedding weight
- 25:21and we've been married 45 years and that's pretty awesome.
- 25:25So over the past couple years I've given a lot of lectures on
- 25:30GLP ones and their effect on, first of all, on medical
- 25:34dermatology. It's huge.
- 25:36People that have psoriasis or hidradenitis, they're getting
- 25:39better faster if they're on GLP ones, if they're obese or and a
- 25:43lot of them are heavy. But on the aesthetic side
- 25:48especially, we talked about lack skin and loose skin and saggy
- 25:52skin in the abdomen and things like that.
- 25:54That's a problem. You need to start early and you
- 25:57need to be using skin tightening devices and so forth.
- 26:00But you may need plastic surgery.
- 26:02And I'm, I'm not opposed to that.
- 26:04I think the face is different. So again, I go back to me, I
- 26:08lost 60 lbs. I have these little hollow
- 26:11depressions in my cheeks. I show this on podium when I
- 26:15talk to people, when I give lectures on GLP ones.
- 26:19And I tell people don't automatically assume that you
- 26:22need to fill that face. Because after I'm 66 years old
- 26:26and I think the last time I saw hollow cheeks in myself was when
- 26:29I was like 10 because I was a big boy.
- 26:33And so for me, it's personal. I'd love looking at the mirror
- 26:37and seeing a little this way instead of just the out, you
- 26:42know, this, this looks good. So don't assume when you're
- 26:46looking at the patient on AGLP one that again, they may come in
- 26:50because they want that filled great.
- 26:52Talk to them, be gentle, put a little bit of filler in.
- 26:56Don't overfill all that good stuff.
- 26:59You can tighten down here with whatever.
- 27:01If you want to use fillers, you can use radius or whatever or
- 27:05wrestle and lift. There's some great fillers
- 27:07contouring for that kind of stuff.
- 27:10But talk to the patients about does it really bother them?
- 27:14I will tell you, for guys it doesn't right now.
- 27:18Again, there are a few that it does obviously, but for the
- 27:22majority of the guys that I talked to that have done this
- 27:24weight loss thing, they don't want to get treated in their
- 27:27face. So I think it's more personal
- 27:30than people think. Again, it's just my opinion and
- 27:33if you need something, I think the way to look at it is can I
- 27:38use fillers? All right, again, minimal
- 27:40amounts to do what you want to do do I do things like
- 27:44ultrasound skin tightening if you have lost here, right, This
- 27:48is a big area in the neck. I mean, I can tighten that.
- 27:52That's simple. And if you have to come back to
- 27:55a couple times a year or three or four times a year, most
- 27:58people won't mind. And so I think we can help our
- 28:01patients dramatically without looking them look weird.
- 28:05You're thin, you're thin, you're thin, and all of a sudden you
- 28:07come like Santa Claus because somebody put all this filler in
- 28:11you. So I just think you got to be
- 28:13careful. But for me, it's been like, I'm
- 28:15thrilled with what they've done for me.
- 28:18Doctor Gold, you are lecturing globally, you are teaching
- 28:23globally. One of the questions that comes
- 28:26up often is what do you think is that is happening
- 28:30internationally right now that's going to influence what's
- 28:33happening here in the US pretty soon in the field of aesthetics?
- 28:37I think we have underestimated how much knowledge we've gotten
- 28:43from the AIPAC region. They're amazing docs and I'm not
- 28:47saying they're not everywhere, right, but the AIPAC community
- 28:50that we deal with, again, my world was to go over there and
- 28:54teach them a lot about what I do.
- 28:57They're so far advanced now. I'm giving a couple talks coming
- 29:00up in the next few weeks and I made every one of the Asian docs
- 29:04give me their slide decks and some of them are in Chinese and
- 29:09some of have Thai. And I just leave their language
- 29:11in there because it's not about me.
- 29:13I want to show what they did. And then in English, I write
- 29:16photos courtesy of whoever, because I want the world to see
- 29:21what they've done, whether it's in devices.
- 29:24And obviously if you go to Korea and their skin Care World and
- 29:28what they're doing, and some of it's really real.
- 29:31And so I think that's great all over the world, whether it's
- 29:33Europe, Middle East or whatever. They're amazing docs out there,
- 29:38right? And unfortunately, we live in a
- 29:43bubble. Now, having said that, if
- 29:46somebody comes out with something, we want to make sure
- 29:49it works here in the US All right?
- 29:52That's a must. There's been some nightmares
- 29:55over the years because people found something in South America
- 29:59and they brought the cocktail to the United States and started
- 30:02injecting it. And then we had necrosis
- 30:04everywhere it was being injected.
- 30:06We don't want that. But we live in this bubble that
- 30:11says if it's not done here or founded here, it doesn't work.
- 30:18And again, know our space, right?
- 30:21The laser industry is Israel, it's Boston, it's California,
- 30:29it's South American Brazil, it's Korea, it's China.
- 30:35That's where they're made. And and it doesn't mean one's
- 30:38worse or better than the other. They're great devices.
- 30:42So I think we have to look at the world and say, what do you
- 30:48got? Bring it on.
- 30:51Show me what's different and what's better.
- 30:53Not that I want to pick on car makers here, but I will tell
- 30:57you, being in China and getting in the Chinese automobiles made
- 31:02me envious that I wanted one, right?
- 31:05That's not going to happen for a while.
- 31:07But we're the prize for all these companies. the US is the
- 31:13prize. They all want to come here
- 31:15because we're the most expensive.
- 31:17Whatever reason they won't want to be here, but at the same
- 31:21time, we can't underestimate what they bring to the table.
- 31:25And I think maybe that's why I spend all this time traveling
- 31:30because I'm lecturing and telling them what I know.
- 31:33But at the same time, I'm trying to figure out what's new over
- 31:35there or wherever it is that I want to learn more about and try
- 31:39to get it here at some point. If we can bring it to the US,
- 31:42well, it's. Wonderful that you get to see
- 31:46all this international is going on as.
- 31:50I tell people I'm pretty lucky. I'm humbled.
- 31:53I take none of it for granted. One of the things I tell
- 31:56residents and when I give lectures in dermatology to
- 32:00residents and fellows or whatever, I tell them to kiss
- 32:03the ground every day you walk on earth because everybody wants to
- 32:06be you and, and we're very fortunate.
- 32:10Again, I'm a dermatologist so I don't take it for granted.
- 32:14It is one of the hardest specialties to get in, but it
- 32:17has allowed me to do everything in medicine that I hope to.
- 32:20I don't take any of it for granted anymore.
- 32:23Yeah, it doesn't sound like you do.
- 32:25It sounds like you enjoy every facet of it.
- 32:28So as we start to wrap up, if you had to highlight an area of
- 32:33research, because we know you do a lot of research that excites
- 32:36you most for the future, whether it's devices, injectables,
- 32:41regenerative science, what would it be for you for 2026?
- 32:46I do think IP LS are on the cusp of reinventing themselves, and I
- 32:51think the companies know this and they're all working to make
- 32:54things simpler, easier, better and safer.
- 32:59And IP LS can do so much. So IP LS excite me to no end.
- 33:03We didn't talk about silicone and silicone gel and silicone
- 33:06gel sheets. I was the first one to bring to
- 33:08dermatology a long, long, long time ago, and now every company
- 33:13makes a scar product that has silicone.
- 33:15If you would have told me that 20 years ago, I would have
- 33:17laughed. So every time, everywhere I go
- 33:19now, people want to know what's the latest in silicone.
- 33:22But I have silicones now. Strat Pharma mix silicone
- 33:25products that I can put on immediately after lasers.
- 33:29It'll help the wounds heal faster and then prevent
- 33:31scarring. I have one I can put on
- 33:34immediately after I suture A wound.
- 33:36I've never had that before. So again, we evolve, right?
- 33:40I love seeing when people just aren't satisfied with the status
- 33:44quo and we can work together with our colleagues to make
- 33:48things even better. Well, before we do formally wrap
- 33:53up, is there anything else? And you've been.
- 33:55You've shared so much wisdom with us, and I'm sure the
- 33:59listeners would love everything. I just want to give kudos to you
- 34:03again. We just met a little while ago,
- 34:05but we've known you for a long time.
- 34:07We do a lot of calls that you're the star of, and it's been a joy
- 34:12to listen to you and learn from you.
- 34:15I think we pick up things from all of us when we're out and
- 34:19about doing our thing. Well, thank you.
- 34:23That means a lot. So thank you for sharing all of
- 34:25your wisdom. And is there anything else that
- 34:27you'd like to share with the audience before we wrap up?
- 34:30This next scale is May 13th, the 17th, 2026 here.
- 34:37It's scale musiccity.com. OK.
- 34:40Excellent, Excellent. Well, thank you again for
- 34:43joining us. Today, my pleasure.
- 34:45Absolute pleasure and everybody, thank you for joining the Doctor
- 34:50Randy show, where the future of beauty and medicine doesn't just
- 34:54happen, it starts here. So until next time.
- 34:58Doctor Randy Boyett holds a PhD and is a recognized leader in
- 35:01the aesthetics and medical industry.
- 35:03She is not a licensed medical doctor.
- 35:06All commentary and product recommendations are based on
- 35:09industry expertise and are provided for informational
- 35:12purposes only.