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Chuck and Buck 10-23 Hour 2: Thursdays with Softy, the NBA is caught up in a big scandal and Geno's future as a Mariner. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Portland Troilblazers head coach Chauncey Billups and Miami Heat guard
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Speaker 1: Terry Rozier have both been arrested this morning. Billups at
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Speaker 1: around six am in Portland, Oregon in Roseer around six am.
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Speaker 1: I'm told in Orlando where the Heat we're playing last night,
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Speaker 1: Rosier has been arrested for his involvement in alleged sports
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Speaker 1: gambling prop bets and Billups. ABC News is reporting is
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Speaker 1: tied to an illegal poker operation tied to the mafia.
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Speaker 1: And so you know, the FBI has been investigating this
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Speaker 1: situation for several months, in Rosier's case at least two years,
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Speaker 1: and today is making arrests. There is a press conference
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Speaker 1: that is set by the FBI. This is really seismic
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Speaker 1: news in the NBA for a sitting NBA head coach
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Speaker 1: in Chauncey Billups to be an arrested, taken into custody
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Speaker 1: for alleged illegal gambling as well as Terror Rozier for
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Speaker 1: sports betting alleged two arrests made this morning. There are
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Speaker 1: expected to be numerous arrests also tied to both of
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Speaker 1: these situations.
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Speaker 2: Wow wow, wow, breaking news this morning before we even
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Speaker 2: got on the airwaves. That's Sham Sharanya breaking the story
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Speaker 2: and also ABC News about Chauncey Phillips. Terry Rogier arrested
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Speaker 2: this morning as part of investigations related to illegal gambling.
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Speaker 2: Some other names expected to be revealed the later. Other
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Speaker 2: arrest to be made and probably within the NBA family.
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Speaker 2: So something to monitor and certainly something to discuss all
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Speaker 2: day long here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM.
1:38
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of other things to discuss as well.
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Speaker 2: Chuck and Ashley with you. Bucky is out today. We
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Speaker 2: will have a twelve man roundtable a little bit later
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Speaker 2: on in the show, and Softie's going to join us
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Speaker 2: here in a matter of seconds. But let's first rip
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Speaker 2: through your headlines, brought to you by Frostbrewed Corps Light
1:54
Speaker 2: Choose Chill. Speaking of the NBA Victor, wimbin Yama dominated
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Speaker 2: last night against Cooper Flagg forty points, fifteen rebounds, three
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Speaker 2: block shots, no turnovers for the seven foot fill in
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Speaker 2: the blank alien from not of Earth, as he was
2:11
Speaker 2: sensational last night and has everybody in the league wondering
2:15
Speaker 2: how we are going to defend against the new and
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Speaker 2: improved victor winmbin Yama NHL. The Kraken have run into
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Speaker 2: some trouble. They lost to back to back road games
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Speaker 2: and they're still on the road. They'll be in Winnipeg tonight.
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Speaker 2: The puck will drop at five o'clock against the Jets.
2:32
Speaker 2: The Sounders play Monday, their first playoff match of the postseason.
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Speaker 2: They'll take on Minnesota United at six o'clock.
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Speaker 3: It's Thursday Night football.
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Speaker 2: The Vikings will be in La taking on the Chargers.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of the National Football League, Lamar Jackson practiced yesterday.
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Speaker 2: He might be in for this week's Baltimore game. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels is certainly out for the Washington Commanders. The
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Speaker 2: Seahawks are on buy Something. We'll discuss with our roundtable
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Speaker 2: guys that eight o'clock, and the Huskies are in action
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Speaker 2: against Illinois this Saturday, kickoff at twelve thirty. Of course,
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Speaker 2: David Softy Mama joins us every Thursday to talk some
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Speaker 2: Huskies football, and lately he's had the.
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Speaker 3: Mariners on the brain.
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Speaker 2: And my guess is that he's but to talk about
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Speaker 2: his pent up thoughts because you haven't even really had
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Speaker 2: airtime this week until you get it off your chest.
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I just want to talk about
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Speaker 4: which kJ our host is the most likely if any
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Speaker 4: of us would ever be arrested for our involvement in
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Speaker 4: an illegal poker ring.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Mark James, which one would it be?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Let me think about that, Mark James.
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Speaker 4: That's probably the guy after you. Yeah right, that's what
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Speaker 4: I thought about. I won't say his name, but it
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Speaker 4: rhymes with March. I mean, it's so easy, Like why
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Speaker 4: am I even bothering asking the question?
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 4: Like?
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Speaker 3: Uh, whoa? How about that for a story though? My goodness?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I don't know, man. I just
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Speaker 4: kind of feel like people will come out and say,
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Speaker 4: what's a big deal, it's just a little polker. Well,
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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, it feels like it goes a
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Speaker 4: lot deeper than that. But whatever the rules say. If
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Speaker 4: you're a head coach in the NBA, if you're an
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Speaker 4: NBA player, if you're a college basketball player, and you
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Speaker 4: know the NCAA just announced was it yesterday or this
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Speaker 4: morning or whatever, that players are now allowed to bet
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Speaker 4: on pro sports college athletes are as. You know that
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Speaker 4: I did not know that they just changed that rule.
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Speaker 4: And now two days later, Jauncey Billups and Terry Rogier
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Speaker 4: are getting busted. So that's great. You know, whatever the
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Speaker 4: rules say you can do, you can do. If they
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Speaker 4: say you can't do something, then stop bitching about it
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Speaker 4: and stop doing it, or get the hell out of
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Speaker 4: that league, for God's sake. So I don't know, man,
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Speaker 4: what a wild story, but a nice temporary distraction from
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Speaker 4: the sadness that is still set in and it's still
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Speaker 4: very much prevalent after Monday night. You know, God, I
4:57
Speaker 4: feel like was it old school? And Will Ferrell got
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Speaker 4: shot in the neck with a tranquilizer dart, Yeah, and
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Speaker 4: fell into the pool.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 4: His life is just falling apart. He's getting divorced, He's
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Speaker 4: a miserable bastard, the direkness mail old friend, he's just
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Speaker 4: playing in the background. That's the way I felt since
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Speaker 4: Monday night. Man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't chatted with you, but you do seem
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Speaker 2: more just sad than angry.
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Speaker 4: That's exactly it. And and that's the way I felt
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Speaker 4: since since Monday night, that this is something that we've
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Speaker 4: been dreaming about for fifty years in this town.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 4: You know, the Mariners became a thing when I was
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Speaker 4: four years old, and ever since then, I've been waiting
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Speaker 4: and hoping and dreaming about a world series and was
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Speaker 4: able to accomplish. As a fan, I guess pretty much
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Speaker 4: everything else there is to do in a lot of ways, right,
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Speaker 4: you know, with the Sonics and the Huskies and the Seahawks,
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Speaker 4: and this is the one thing that we haven't crossed
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Speaker 4: off the list. And it's the one thing that you know,
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Speaker 4: growing up, you're kind of told indirectly by the actions
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Speaker 4: of a franchise that this isn't for you. You know,
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Speaker 4: this is for the Cardinals, or this is for the Yankees,
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Speaker 4: or this is for the Red Sox or the Mets
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Speaker 4: or somebody else, and it's not for you. And all
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're fifty two years old and you're
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Speaker 4: eight outs away. And I don't know about you, Chuck
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Speaker 4: and Ashley, but eight outs away I started to foolishly
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Speaker 4: allow myself to kind of start to think that maybe
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Speaker 4: this is actually happening. And then it all fell apart
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Speaker 4: and it's just an absolute crusher beyond crusher, you know.
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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I may change my mind and six
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Speaker 4: months or a year, five years from now, but compare
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Speaker 4: this to to Kembe, Compare this to Malcolm Butler all
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Speaker 4: those other you know, just completely heartbreaking moments that we've had.
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Speaker 4: It's number one for me right now, number one on
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Speaker 4: my list.
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Speaker 2: If there is something that you're angry about from the
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Speaker 2: way it ended, what is it?
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Speaker 4: You know? I gotta be honest with you, Chuck. I
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Speaker 4: really am having a hard time conjuring up the anger kind.
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Speaker 4: I guess if there was anything, it would be. You know,
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Speaker 4: why couldn't Dan Wilson just have done what everybody wanted
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Speaker 4: him to do in that game and keep Kirby in there,
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Speaker 4: go to Brian Wu and then go to Andress Munno's yeah,
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Speaker 4: and just finish it out. But I'm just so there's
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Speaker 4: just so much sadness, right, there's just so much heartbreak
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Speaker 4: over all of that that I haven't even gotten to
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Speaker 4: that stage yet. I mean, you tell me, right, you're
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Speaker 4: the psychiatrist here, you tell me. Is it is it
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Speaker 4: grief before anger? Is it anger before grief? I don't know,
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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm doing this backwards man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well uh number one. As your psychiatrist, I
7:42
Speaker 2: don't think there's any helping you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so say.
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Speaker 4: That miserable the rest of my life, and I should
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Speaker 4: accept that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I just I figured.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I know that you didn't exactly
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Speaker 2: like the decision by Dan Wilson. I think he struggled
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Speaker 2: with decisions throughout the course of the year.
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Speaker 3: I think he's very strong in other.
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Speaker 2: Areas, and those other areas are very important, like you know,
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Speaker 2: getting the most out of your players and having a
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Speaker 2: great clubhouse and you know. And I think he had
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Speaker 2: a good game plan coming into the game, Kirby Woo
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Speaker 2: to Munos, I think was the game plan. But it
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Speaker 2: really is hard for me to believe that either he
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Speaker 2: or somebody else in that dugout didn't see that.
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Speaker 3: Hey, do you know we might have to.
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Speaker 2: Face Springer and Guerrero only one more time before this
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Speaker 2: game comes to a close, and let's make sure we
8:38
Speaker 2: have either our best starter on the mound, which they
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Speaker 2: already had, or our best reliever up and ready to
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Speaker 2: face them when the time comes. And for that not
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Speaker 2: to even be a thought to look out to the
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Speaker 2: bullpen and there's one dude out there and it's Bizardo.
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Speaker 2: To me, that was you had a great game plan,
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Speaker 2: but you did not You did not react well to
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Speaker 2: how the game was unfolding.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and look, I mean we can also argue
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Speaker 4: that it never should have gotten into Game seven in
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Speaker 4: the first place, you know, and you know, what have
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Speaker 4: we been saying for years about this rotation? Just get
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Speaker 4: in and you know, watch these guys just work their magic.
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Speaker 4: And I was I don't know about you, but I
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Speaker 4: was pretty much woefully you know, unimpressed by the rotation
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Speaker 4: in the postseason. Yeah, thought they'd be a lot more
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Speaker 4: dominant than they were. Maybe that's unfair, but you know,
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Speaker 4: I'm looking at what the Dodgers are doing with what
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Speaker 4: they got going on right now, and I mean that's dominance.
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Speaker 4: That is absolute, unbelievable, elite dominance and maybe one of
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Speaker 4: the best postseason rotations we've ever seen, to be honest
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Speaker 4: with you, in LA and I made foolishly, I guess,
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Speaker 4: thought that we had something like that, and we don't
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Speaker 4: either a because the baseball team doesn't allow it to,
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Speaker 4: you know, develop into that in the postseason. When you're
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Speaker 4: yanking guys out after four innings or three and two
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Speaker 4: thirds and one sign of trouble, you're jumping off the ship.
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Speaker 4: I get it, you know, but that to me is
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Speaker 4: one of my biggest kind of disappointments. I thought these
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Speaker 4: were guys that we could count on to be elite
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Speaker 4: and they were not.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you had the chance to set the rotation.
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Speaker 2: You had a week off to make sure that you
10:15
Speaker 2: had exactly who you wanted to pitch in the exact
10:18
Speaker 2: situation that you wanted them to pitch in. And you're right.
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Speaker 2: You know, you think back to Games four and six
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Speaker 2: and how poorly the team played. So you're right, we
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Speaker 2: can't just boil it down to one decision that had
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Speaker 2: some merit to it, because Bizardo was excellent all season
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Speaker 2: long with inherited runners on base.
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Speaker 3: We can't boil it down to that one decision.
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Speaker 2: There were opportunities earlier in the series to put the
10:42
Speaker 2: Blue Jays away.
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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm glad you said that because and
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Speaker 4: that's why I just look, I would not have done
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Speaker 4: it the way Dan did it. I would have done
10:50
Speaker 4: it the way you're talking about doing it. But to
10:53
Speaker 4: just if we're being fair, to just dismiss the idea
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Speaker 4: of going to Bizardo hand and just saying this is
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Speaker 4: the most ridiculous, idiotic thing. I don't think that's fair Yeah,
11:05
Speaker 4: I think that there are reasons that make a lot
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Speaker 4: of sense why Dan Wilson would have gone to Bizardo there, including,
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Speaker 4: as you said, his strand rate during the year. And
11:14
Speaker 4: we talked about this on Tuesday Morning show that if
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Speaker 4: he gets the job done there, which nobody would have
11:19
Speaker 4: been surprised, right if Bizardo got the job done, and
11:23
Speaker 4: that seventh inning, we're sitting there probably on Tuesday morning,
11:27
Speaker 4: and you're on the postgame show on Monday night saying
11:30
Speaker 4: where would this team be without Bizarreda and the job
11:33
Speaker 4: he's done. You know, this guy was the mop early
11:35
Speaker 4: in the year. We used to call him the mop
11:37
Speaker 4: because he would come in when the games are out
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Speaker 4: of hand and he was just part of the cleanup crew.
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Speaker 4: And now he was a vital part of your bullpen.
11:44
Speaker 4: So I think there is merit behind Dan Wilson and
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Speaker 4: what he did. But, like I said, Chuck, just to
11:49
Speaker 4: kind of go back to the beginning, the anger stage
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Speaker 4: has I haven't even touched the tip of the anger
11:55
Speaker 4: stage yet, dude, because I'm just so freaking bummed out
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Speaker 4: about what happened on Monday.
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Speaker 3: Understandable, no question about it.
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Speaker 2: Softy's with us Thursdays with Softy right here on chug
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Speaker 2: A Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 2: three KJRFM. Well, our remaining time, have you been able
12:12
Speaker 2: to put any of your thoughts toward Illinois?
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Speaker 4: This SATs Yes, this unbelievable legendary long time rivalry between
12:20
Speaker 4: UDUB and Illinois that goes back about a year and
12:23
Speaker 4: a half. Actually we had them in the Rose Bowl
12:26
Speaker 4: about forty years ago. So for longtime Husky fans, I
12:30
Speaker 4: guess you kind of remember moments like that. But I mean, look, dude,
12:33
Speaker 4: they got they got five games left to go where
12:35
Speaker 4: they can really decide if they want to be a
12:38
Speaker 4: nine win team or maybe you know, a six or
12:41
Speaker 4: a seven win team. Ucla perdue Wisconsin. I'm sorry, I
12:45
Speaker 4: think those are all games that Washington should win. I
12:48
Speaker 4: know UCLA is playing better as of late, but those
12:51
Speaker 4: are three games. I think Udub's gonna have better talent,
12:53
Speaker 4: they've got better coaching, and they should win those games.
12:56
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been kind of tracking what's
12:57
Speaker 4: happening at Wisconsin, but they want Luke Fickles head on
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Speaker 4: a stick. Yeah out there right now. It's unbelievable how
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Speaker 4: much crap he's taken from his fan base, and I'm
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Speaker 4: kind of bummed out because we're gonna actually go out
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Speaker 4: there in a couple of weeks, and I was looking
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Speaker 4: forward to seeing what that atmosphere, you know, it feels
13:12
Speaker 4: like it looks like, and I'm kind of thinking it
13:14
Speaker 4: won't even be you know, a shell of what it
13:17
Speaker 4: normally is out there. So that's eight wins and then
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Speaker 4: this game right here on Saturday. Hey, you know, Willner's
13:24
Speaker 4: been tracking the stats. You know, teams going multiple time
13:27
Speaker 4: zones East or West in the Big Ten have not
13:30
Speaker 4: fared well at all straight up and against the spread.
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Speaker 4: So I think you Dub's in a good spot coming
13:35
Speaker 4: off a kind of embarrassing game at Michigan where they
13:38
Speaker 4: didn't play very well. The offense fell apart and puked
13:41
Speaker 4: all over itself in the second half with those turnovers.
13:44
Speaker 4: And now they're coming back home with a chance to
13:47
Speaker 4: get another big win and maybe shoot for a nine or,
13:49
Speaker 4: you know, if not a ten win season, maybe in
13:52
Speaker 4: a bowl game. So this is a crucial game for Jedfish.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and speaking of him, I mean the way he's
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Speaker 2: conducted his career, you know, kind of bouncing from program
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Speaker 2: to program. He's an easy target. Yeah, he's an easy
14:04
Speaker 2: target for any kind of trade, trade rumors, coaching vacancy
14:08
Speaker 2: rumors that are that are out there as flagship for
14:13
Speaker 2: the Huskies football. Here Kjar as the kind of the
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Speaker 2: face for our coverage of the Huskies on Kjar, I mean,
14:21
Speaker 2: you talk, You're going to be talking about this team
14:23
Speaker 2: for four hour pregame this Saturday, and you're I mean,
14:27
Speaker 2: how are you treating the jetfish rumors and how much
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Speaker 2: substance are you giving them?
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's you got to talk about it, right,
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is Look at the guy's resume. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I mean, look or not, I'm just not going to
14:40
Speaker 4: ignore reality. I mean Jetfish even I think he was
14:43
Speaker 4: either at his press conference or it's some later point
14:46
Speaker 4: in time, he's even admitted it. Look, I've moved around
14:49
Speaker 4: a lot, and he gets it. You know, he understands
14:51
Speaker 4: what his resume looks like. Here. You know, he comes
14:54
Speaker 4: out with a visor as an homage to Steve Spurrier.
14:57
Speaker 4: He graduated from Florida. I mean, look, obviously the guy's
15:01
Speaker 4: got a desire to go to the NFL, and he's
15:04
Speaker 4: probably got a big desire at one point in time
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Speaker 4: to be the head coach of the Florida Gators. It
15:09
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that while he's here, he's not going to
15:11
Speaker 4: do a good job. I think there's absolutely, though, a
15:14
Speaker 4: reason for Husky fans to wonder, you know, what Jetfish's
15:18
Speaker 4: future looks like, both long term and short term. You know.
15:23
Speaker 4: I mean, we're in a day and age where players
15:25
Speaker 4: are moving around like crazy, coaches are moving around like crazy.
15:28
Speaker 4: That's why I love the signetti thing, by the way,
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Speaker 4: so much when he stayed in Indiana, thought it was
15:32
Speaker 4: great for college football that he stayed there at that spot.
15:35
Speaker 4: But this idea that we can just ignore Jetfish's history
15:39
Speaker 4: and Jetfish's resume and his status that is kind of
15:43
Speaker 4: a vagabond, I think is crazy. So I think he's
15:45
Speaker 4: doing a fine job right now while he's here, but
15:48
Speaker 4: I think just to ignore that is absolutely nuts.
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Speaker 2: All Right, So I think maybe the key to beating
15:54
Speaker 2: Illinois is to not wait till the second half to
15:56
Speaker 2: get the offense going.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do that, and let's also get Joonah Colemon going.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's at seven straight Big Ten games where
16:02
Speaker 4: he hasn't had one hundred yard day, which is weird
16:05
Speaker 4: to say that about a guy that we thought would
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Speaker 4: be a potential first team All Big Ten, maybe All
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Speaker 4: American running back. I mean, the guy's averaging in four
16:13
Speaker 4: Big Ten games is averaging three and a half yards
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Speaker 4: of carry, which is not good enough for no, not
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Speaker 4: for Jonah Coleman, not for one of your highest paid
16:21
Speaker 4: players on the football team, which is still weird to say.
16:23
Speaker 4: By the way, four years ago, yeah, it would have
16:25
Speaker 4: been arrested for something like that. But that's not good enough,
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Speaker 4: you know, And I don't want to just use the
16:30
Speaker 4: injuries chuck to the offensive line to explain it away, right,
16:33
Speaker 4: I mean, are we going to sit here and really
16:35
Speaker 4: say that Carver Willis and John Mills, who's a pure
16:39
Speaker 4: freshman guard, are the reason why the Huskies can't run
16:43
Speaker 4: the ball. Really, because I thought Jonah Coleman was a
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Speaker 4: guy that could run through contact and he would you know,
16:49
Speaker 4: the run game would travel against anybody, no matter who
16:52
Speaker 4: they played. They'd be able to run. Look, I'm not
16:54
Speaker 4: just ignoring the fact that those guys are hurt, and
16:56
Speaker 4: that's a big that's a big problem. But they got
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Speaker 4: to get him going. I don't care who's on the
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Speaker 4: offensive line.
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Speaker 3: All Right, man, thank you very much for joining us.
17:04
Speaker 3: We appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, I know that, I know you were so close
17:08
Speaker 2: to tasting something you've dreamed about your whole life. I
17:11
Speaker 2: was thinking about you that whole evening and all week long.
17:15
Speaker 2: So people like you and Ashley that just want to
17:18
Speaker 2: want to relive this dream. So you're going to someday.
17:22
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to hear it right now,
17:23
Speaker 2: but you're going to.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, well, you know we thought that thirty years ago.
17:26
Speaker 4: Yeah that ninety five run here, and here we are
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Speaker 4: thirty years later, still waiting for it. So that's the
17:32
Speaker 4: worst part, dude, is having to go back to the
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Speaker 4: beginning and starting all over again.
17:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, man, we'll talk to you soon.
17:38
Speaker 2: All right, Bud, there he is, David Softy Maller, the one,
17:42
Speaker 2: the only joining.
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Speaker 3: Us right here.
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Speaker 2: Every Thursday on Chuck and Buck, we're gonna play some
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Speaker 2: Factor fiction at seven thirty five. Also more on the
17:51
Speaker 2: big breaking news this morning. Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 5: Good morning today. We're here in New York to announce
17:58
Speaker 5: a historic arrest across a wide, sweeping criminal enterprise that
18:03
Speaker 5: envelops both the NBA and Lakasainostra. The men and women
18:07
Speaker 5: up here standing with me represent a small portion of
18:10
Speaker 5: the leadership team that brought profound justice in an era
18:14
Speaker 5: that needed it more than any I'll just highlight some
18:18
Speaker 5: of the details in the case and the FBI work,
18:20
Speaker 5: and then you'll hear from the others. But as you
18:22
Speaker 5: now know, individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and
18:27
Speaker 5: Terry Rozier were taking into custody today former current NBA
18:30
Speaker 5: players and coaches. What you don't know is that this
18:34
Speaker 5: is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation that spanned.
18:38
Speaker 6: The course of years.
18:39
Speaker 5: The FBI led a coordinative takedown across eleven states to
18:43
Speaker 5: arrest over thirty individuals today responsible for this case, which
18:47
Speaker 5: is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into
18:51
Speaker 5: the fraud that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage
18:56
Speaker 5: of the NBA, but we also entered and executed a
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Speaker 5: system of justice against La Casinostra to include the Bonano, Gambino,
19:06
Speaker 5: Genevese and lu Chase crime families.
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Speaker 7: Geez yeah, like way bigger than Holy Yeah, Coroni, It's insane.
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Speaker 2: Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan with you here on Chucking
19:23
Speaker 2: Back in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three
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Speaker 2: k JR FM. Yes, we woke up to this news
19:28
Speaker 2: this morning, breaking news from the NBA.
19:30
Speaker 3: You just heard it.
19:31
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try and recap it as well
19:34
Speaker 2: as what you just heard from the FBI, But on
19:37
Speaker 2: day number three of the NBA season, they're dealing with
19:40
Speaker 2: something as we're looking at some player arrests, coaches arrests,
19:45
Speaker 2: and Chauncey Billups head coaching arrest for his involvement in
19:50
Speaker 2: this gambling ring. And of course the thing that stings
19:54
Speaker 2: the most is the fact that they were looking into
19:58
Speaker 2: fixing NBA game. So the NBA, at this stage, you
20:02
Speaker 2: just got to let this happen and then go with
20:05
Speaker 2: it and then double down on it, because you're gonna
20:09
Speaker 2: lose some of the trust that you have with your
20:13
Speaker 2: fan base when you start the dealing in these circles.
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Speaker 3: So that's going to happen. I think that will fade
20:20
Speaker 3: over time.
20:20
Speaker 2: The Tim Donneghey scandal faded over time, and it didn't
20:24
Speaker 2: take very long for fans to trust again in the product.
20:28
Speaker 2: Maybe they did grumble on their chairs or on the
20:31
Speaker 2: internet that this is rigged. I know it's rigged, but
20:34
Speaker 2: they kept watching and they kept playing, so it will
20:38
Speaker 2: probably fade over time. But the best way to do
20:41
Speaker 2: it is to just let it play out, come down
20:44
Speaker 2: as hard as you possibly can, send a message to
20:47
Speaker 2: every player, coach, every future player and coach of the
20:51
Speaker 2: NBA about how you handle situations like this, and you
20:54
Speaker 2: might actually be able to work it out.
20:57
Speaker 3: That fans trust more.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's sort of like when a restaurant
21:03
Speaker 2: gets hit for, you know, a coli. When do you
21:07
Speaker 2: trust that restaurant again the very next day as soon
21:10
Speaker 2: as they open their doors, lenus.
21:11
Speaker 3: They've never been that clean before.
21:13
Speaker 2: And so if you decide to slap wrists in this situation,
21:17
Speaker 2: you're ft. But if you decide to like double down
21:20
Speaker 2: on this and like, these people will never be associated
21:23
Speaker 2: with us again. This is the penalty for doing this
21:27
Speaker 2: type of activity and become stricter in your views of
21:33
Speaker 2: how players are interacting with gambling. Then you send a
21:38
Speaker 2: loud enough message, a strong enough message, and you will certainly,
21:42
Speaker 2: I mean, you're never gonna fix it, You're never gonna
21:44
Speaker 2: cure it, but you can certainly take a big chunk
21:47
Speaker 2: out of whatever else has been going on and those
21:50
Speaker 2: that are going to get away with their gambling indiscretions.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I do think that, you know, in this case,
21:55
Speaker 7: this is kind of easy for the NBA to just say, okay,
21:58
Speaker 7: our hand you know like this the FBI.
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Speaker 6: Has done this. Me yeah, well yeah I.
22:03
Speaker 7: Would be but just but to say, you know what,
22:04
Speaker 7: the FBI is taking care of this, We're gonna let
22:06
Speaker 7: them handle it, and then we're and then you know,
22:09
Speaker 7: like you should be scared because these people are being
22:11
Speaker 7: arrested for money laundering and wire fraud and they've been
22:15
Speaker 7: like the poker games apparently that Chauncey Billips was involved in,
22:19
Speaker 7: we're just all rigged. They had like X ray tables
22:22
Speaker 7: and all sorts of secret contact lenses and cameras and
22:26
Speaker 7: all these things, and they'd bring other people in and
22:28
Speaker 7: take all their money.
22:29
Speaker 4: Jeez.
22:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:30
Speaker 7: And then the prop bets were all created by or
22:35
Speaker 7: bet On and rigged and all of these other things.
22:37
Speaker 7: And so it's not like they're just being getting in
22:40
Speaker 7: trouble for illegal gambling.
22:41
Speaker 6: This is like way bigger.
22:43
Speaker 2: Deep is It is deep and dark, and so who
22:47
Speaker 2: knows what else we're going to learn about this here
22:49
Speaker 2: in the next week or so. But yes, a big
22:54
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Speaker 7: I think that was a good pick. Yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I'm gonna the Chargers have had some struggles,
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27:12
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27:14
Speaker 2: a lot of people love Gino Suarez and yet a
27:17
Speaker 2: lot of people are wondering if he has any future
27:20
Speaker 2: at all with the Mariners.
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Speaker 3: He only just got here.
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Speaker 4: Another two too.
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Speaker 3: That's another. That's how sure were you we were going
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Speaker 3: after that?
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Speaker 6: Well, I told you I already.
27:59
Speaker 7: I didn't want to allow myself to even think about
28:01
Speaker 7: the World Series. And I started to just briefly in
28:04
Speaker 7: Game seven and that first iman, and then I went
28:07
Speaker 7: away and then I started to again just let it
28:09
Speaker 7: creep in.
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Speaker 6: But I don't know, I don't know if I was
28:12
Speaker 6: ever sure.
28:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was pretty sure. I was pretty sure
28:16
Speaker 2: in that moment. I mean I didn't go on the
28:17
Speaker 2: air and declare it was over. No, like some people
28:21
Speaker 2: twelve man Rounds table coming up at eight o'clock here
28:23
Speaker 2: on chucking back in the morning. No Bucky Jacobson today.
28:26
Speaker 2: And I don't think Bucky's quite ready to talk about
28:29
Speaker 2: next year yet.
28:30
Speaker 3: Where I was ready to talk.
28:31
Speaker 2: About next year like six months ago. So I think
28:35
Speaker 2: maybe with him being out tomorrow. I'm sitting here, I'm
28:37
Speaker 2: going to talk about Gino here in this segment. I
28:39
Speaker 2: think maybe tomorrow on a football Friday, I'm going to
28:42
Speaker 2: fill in all the cracks by just talking individually about
28:45
Speaker 2: Mariner players and what I think their future might be
28:48
Speaker 2: with the organization, or at least kind of chopping it up,
28:51
Speaker 2: hashing it out a little bit. And Gino's a really
28:53
Speaker 2: difficult one. I mean, he only just got back here.
28:56
Speaker 2: They've already admitted it. As an organization. Jerry has admitted
29:00
Speaker 2: my biggest mistake, and he's made many, just like all
29:04
Speaker 2: general managers do and all presidents, all people to make
29:07
Speaker 2: these decisions.
29:07
Speaker 3: Not every trade works out.
29:09
Speaker 2: He thought that the Gino Suarez trade was his biggest
29:12
Speaker 2: mistake transactionally, and in hindsight, yeah, I think that that's true.
29:19
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt about that.
29:20
Speaker 9: That said, there's not a lot of value for Gino Suarez,
29:25
Speaker 9: and I know that sounds crazy coming off a forty
29:28
Speaker 9: nine home run season, but there wasn't a lot of
29:30
Speaker 9: value for him back when we acquired him the first time.
29:34
Speaker 6: He was the throw in.
29:35
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's which is so crazy because he was the
29:37
Speaker 7: one that was clearly, clearly.
29:39
Speaker 3: The better player.
29:40
Speaker 2: He was the throw in in our trade with for
29:43
Speaker 2: Jesse Winker and the Cincinnati Reds, and then he went
29:48
Speaker 2: to Arizona for Sebbi Zabala and Carlos Vargas. Now, I'm
29:54
Speaker 2: going to tell you something, as much as you want
29:56
Speaker 2: to bag on Jerry Depoto and Justin for that trade,
29:59
Speaker 2: and it was a bad one that I promise you,
30:03
Speaker 2: that's the best offer they were given for a guy
30:07
Speaker 2: that for us had just you know, been a.
30:10
Speaker 3: Fan favorite here.
30:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, and had kind of a gold glovish defensive season
30:16
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, but it only at twenty two
30:19
Speaker 2: home runs. Let me put it this way. His last
30:22
Speaker 2: year in Cincinnati he hit one ninety eight. The previous
30:25
Speaker 2: year he hit two to two. That was all the
30:26
Speaker 2: way back.
30:27
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.
30:28
Speaker 2: He's one of the biggest strikeout guys in the entire sport. Yeah,
30:32
Speaker 2: but he's also one of the great home run hitters
30:34
Speaker 2: of the last decade. And yet I once saw Chris
30:37
Speaker 2: Carter of the Milwaukee Brewers lead the league in home
30:41
Speaker 2: runs and couldn't get a job in the off season.
30:44
Speaker 2: So there has not been this belief that Gino's got
30:47
Speaker 2: much left in the tank, dating all the way back
30:50
Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen, Okay, And so the Mariners took advantage
30:56
Speaker 2: of that, and then we're guilty of it as well.
31:01
Speaker 2: And so it's such a difficult thing because I know
31:05
Speaker 2: the priority is Naylor, and I think that the second
31:07
Speaker 2: priority is Polonka ye, and I'm not sure there is a.
31:10
Speaker 3: Third priority beyond that.
31:11
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they do want to carve out
31:14
Speaker 2: the necessary funds to keep all three of those guys
31:17
Speaker 2: next season and do the other things that they want
31:20
Speaker 2: to do this offseason. It he wants to be here.
31:25
Speaker 2: The fans love him. He obviously can contribute homers. He
31:29
Speaker 2: had forty nine home runs last season. He didn't play
31:32
Speaker 2: Gold Glove defense for US like he did the last time.
31:35
Speaker 2: He wore a Marion or uniform, but he wasn't bad
31:37
Speaker 2: no at third base, not Ben Williamson, But then again,
31:40
Speaker 2: Ben Williamson is a singles hitter.
31:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
31:44
Speaker 3: So it's such a tricky thing.
31:46
Speaker 2: My gut is that he won't be back next year,
31:50
Speaker 2: that they'll prioritize Naylor and they'll prioritize Polonko, and that
31:55
Speaker 2: they won't prioritize resigning a third veteran player that they
32:00
Speaker 2: want to kind of go and hedge toward their younger guys.
32:04
Speaker 2: And so that is my gut feeling. But if the
32:07
Speaker 2: market is so stale, if it's not warm, I mean,
32:11
Speaker 2: spoke track back in August said two years, twenty five
32:15
Speaker 2: million dollars for a thirty four year old Gino Squarez
32:18
Speaker 2: coming off a forty nine home run season. That seems
32:20
Speaker 2: like chump change for a guy that hit fifty home
32:22
Speaker 2: runs in a year, and.
32:24
Speaker 3: That was in August. That's when his value is crazy
32:27
Speaker 3: to me.
32:27
Speaker 2: He has since played his way, probably to an even
32:32
Speaker 2: lower salary. So for a guy that for the last
32:35
Speaker 2: few years has not had a market despite being beloved
32:38
Speaker 2: in all three cities that he's played in. They love
32:41
Speaker 2: him still in Cincinnati, they loved him in Arizona in
32:44
Speaker 2: a short time there, and we know we love him here,
32:47
Speaker 2: and yet he's not had that robust of a market,
32:50
Speaker 2: either trade market or free agent wise. So maybe Ashley
32:55
Speaker 2: and I know how much you like Gino, maybe the
32:58
Speaker 2: price becomes so agreeable to Seattle and that Gino will
33:05
Speaker 2: take a lesser offer to keep his family in a
33:08
Speaker 2: city that he clearly likes, for a team that he
33:11
Speaker 2: clearly wants to be with and not have to move
33:13
Speaker 2: his family again. Maybe there is a future, but I'm
33:17
Speaker 2: highly doubting it. But if it is, it's probably Gino
33:21
Speaker 2: Suarez saying I want to be a Mariner.
33:23
Speaker 3: Pay me what you want.
33:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's what I wonder if.
33:26
Speaker 7: I mean, not to fully lowball him, but if there
33:29
Speaker 7: is an opportunity to get him for a better deal,
33:32
Speaker 7: because he is a bat that you would want in
33:35
Speaker 7: that lineup. Yes, he strikes out, but he also is
33:37
Speaker 7: somebody that people have to take seriously because of the
33:40
Speaker 7: home runs.
33:40
Speaker 2: And the players on the teammates love him, love him.
33:43
Speaker 2: He just authored that grand Slam. I want him here,
33:47
Speaker 2: I know you do. I don't think he'll be here
33:50
Speaker 2: next year, but I think there is a world where
33:53
Speaker 2: he is.
33:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we shall see.
33:56
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. Maybe you can't sign Naylor, maybe
33:58
Speaker 2: you can't sign Polonko. Maybe maybe you only get to
34:02
Speaker 2: rebring back one of them, and Gino's gonna be the guy.
34:04
Speaker 2: There is a world where he's back in the Mariner
34:06
Speaker 2: uniform next year. But I would put I would put
34:09
Speaker 2: my money on him not being here next season, all right?
34:12
Speaker 2: Coming up next twelve man roundtable comes your way. By gum,
34:16
Speaker 2: we haven't done it in two weeks that Hugh Millen
34:18
Speaker 2: and Greg Bell have so much to say about the Seahawks,
34:21
Speaker 2: So even though they're on by we've got to make
34:23
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