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  Speaker 1: But I will say this as well about the Angels.
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  Speaker 2: You want to make more money, you want to get
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  Speaker 2: better gates. How about building a better team.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you do it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to fair territory with Ken Rosenthal. I
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  Speaker 3: am Alana Rizzo. Ken must be having some difficulty with
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  Speaker 3: his technology. Ironically, we were just talking about technological issues.
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  Speaker 3: A big show coming up for you today on this
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  Speaker 3: half an hour as we get ready to welcome Ken
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  Speaker 3: back in as soon as he has that all figured out.
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with the Metropolitans right now. The New York
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  Speaker 3: Mets are the hottest team in baseball, in fact, a
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  Speaker 3: seven and zero sweep at home, including a sweep of
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  Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Phillies, a team that many thought would actually,
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  Speaker 3: you know, contend in the terms of the NL East title.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not just the fact that they're doing it
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  Speaker 3: with starting pitching. They're also doing it, of course because
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  Speaker 3: of Pete Alonso, who was the talk of the off season,
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  Speaker 3: was going to stay as a New York Met? Ken Rosenthal,
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  Speaker 3: welcome in or was he going to go? He is
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  Speaker 3: a Met and he has again provided dividends for the Metropolitans.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back. What do you make of the Mets and
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  Speaker 3: this great start.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Alana, thank you and sorry for the
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  Speaker 1: technical difficulties to start the show. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: I got zapped out of hyperspace, but I did. Now
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  Speaker 1: the Mets are absolutely the most intriguing team going right now.
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  Speaker 1: And there's intriguing because not just Alonzo, and that's one thing,
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  Speaker 1: but the starting pitching is the other. And let's start
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  Speaker 1: with Alonzo because what he is doing at the plate
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  Speaker 1: is remarkable. If he had done this last year, his
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  Speaker 1: free agency would have gone a lot differently. But I
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  Speaker 1: want to show you just what the difference is as
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  Speaker 1: far as his plate discipline, because this is the most
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  Speaker 1: striking element of his strong start.
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  Speaker 2: His chase rate you can see at.
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  Speaker 1: The right column it's way down. Walk percentage is up
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  Speaker 1: on base way up. That is what is keing this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing for Peter Alonzo and for the Mets. When
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  Speaker 1: you have this lineup that they do, Lindor Soto, Alonzo, Nimo,
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  Speaker 1: others as well, frans Cisco Alvarez coming back today, as
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  Speaker 1: well as Jeff McNeil. You've got something pretty special brewing there.
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  Speaker 1: And offensively they've been really good now The starting pitching
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  Speaker 1: is the other surprise. This is perhaps the bigger surprise
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  Speaker 1: because if you ask people like myself, the supposed experts
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  Speaker 1: going into the season, what was the Mets' biggest question
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  Speaker 1: with starting pitching.
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  Speaker 2: It's no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: About that, and Clay Holmes converting from the bullpen to
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  Speaker 1: the starting rotation has done terrific.
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  Speaker 2: For the Mets.
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  Speaker 1: And even with Mania and Mantas out, they've got to
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  Speaker 1: find in Griffin Canning. And let's look at their rotation
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  Speaker 1: era compared to the rest of the league, because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this is going to blow you away. The
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  Speaker 1: Mets rotation era is leading the league by what is
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  Speaker 1: that point seventy five point seven to six per nine innings.
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  Speaker 1: That's a huge gap right now between the Mets, the Tigers,
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  Speaker 1: the Rangers, the Reds, and the Royals. Those are the
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  Speaker 1: top five and that just shows you how well they're
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  Speaker 1: pitching overall. They lead the majors in era as well,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just been for the Mets a charmed, magical start.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know that it's necessarily something that is
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  Speaker 1: outside of where they are capable of being. They are
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  Speaker 1: really good and we're seeing.
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  Speaker 3: That, Yeah, they are really good. And obviously I met
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  Speaker 3: that Justin Steele was a member of the Chicago Cubs.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the Cubs and the Dodgers
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  Speaker 3: coming up back to the Mets and the Phillies for
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  Speaker 3: just a second. So my apology there for that. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: I know Justin Steele is not on the Mets. But
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  Speaker 3: when you look at the Phillies ken specifically the bullpen,
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  Speaker 3: there are some Philly fanatics, if you will, that are
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  Speaker 3: a little bit upset about the construction of the bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: So what are you seeing or what are you not
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  Speaker 3: seeing from the bullpen arms of Philadelphia? And are they
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  Speaker 3: really missing the services of Jeff Hoffman, who was an
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  Speaker 3: All Star you know last year.
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  Speaker 1: They clearly are missing Hoffman, There's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, their bullpen has been a little bit out
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  Speaker 1: of sorts in the early part of the s And
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  Speaker 1: I'll show you the Hoffman versus Jordan Romano comparison because
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  Speaker 1: that's the switch that was made. The Toronto Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: signed Hoffman, the Phillies signed Jordan Romano. Obviously, Romano was
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  Speaker 1: a one year deal, Hoffman was a multi year deal.
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  Speaker 1: But the comparison between the two right now is rather ugly,
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  Speaker 1: at least from the Phillies perspective. There's Hoffman twelve and
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  Speaker 1: a third innings, eighteen strikeouts, one walk, one point four
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  Speaker 1: to sixty RA five for five and save opportunities. And
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  Speaker 1: there's Jordan Romano, who has struggled, there's no question about that.
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  Speaker 1: Nine in the third innings, nine strikeouts, six walks, thirteen
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  Speaker 1: and a half ERA. He's not really closing, but he's
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  Speaker 1: one for three in save opportunities. So the Phillies still
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  Speaker 1: have some formidable arms in that bullpen. They've got Alvarado,
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  Speaker 1: they've got Kirkering, they've got Guys Strom being another who
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  Speaker 1: can do the job. But for whatever reason, they just
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  Speaker 1: haven't started that well this year.
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  Speaker 2: And clearly the.
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  Speaker 1: Mets right now, as Bryce Harper said after yesterday's game,
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  Speaker 1: are the better team. But I will say and we'll
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  Speaker 1: say this over and over again until it's time not
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  Speaker 1: to say it anymore. It's still pretty early, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that I'd be that worried about the Phillies.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, there have been some things that have come
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  Speaker 1: up run us in scoring position being another that have
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  Speaker 1: been weaknesses so far.
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  Speaker 3: All right, much more to come here on Fair Territory
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  Speaker 3: with Ken Rosenthal, we're gonna talk about the Cubs and
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers. In that short series, the Cubs look pretty dominant.
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  Speaker 3: go back to the Cubs for a second, Ken, because
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  Speaker 3: this again I'll be at a short series. But the
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  Speaker 3: fact is they dominated the Daughters by one run in
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  Speaker 3: each game. There was some offense, but the Cubs bested
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  Speaker 3: the World Series champions. Are they the best team in
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  Speaker 3: baseball right now?
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far, but they're really good and
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  Speaker 1: their offense certainly is the best in the majors right now.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the.
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  Speaker 1: Biggest surprise with the Cubs so far. They're on pace
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  Speaker 1: to score more than a thousand runs. Now are they
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  Speaker 1: going to do that? No? Is p Crow Armstrong going
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  Speaker 1: to be a thirty homer sixty stolen base, one hundred RBI. Guy,
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  Speaker 1: probably not, but what they've done so far has been surprising,
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  Speaker 1: and it's been all the more intriguing because they've done
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  Speaker 1: this against a very tough schedule, a schedule that club
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  Speaker 1: officials feared.
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  Speaker 2: Might bury them early.
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  Speaker 1: But now they're done with the Dodgers, done with the Diamondbacks,
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  Speaker 1: done with the Padres, and their offense has just been
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  Speaker 1: absolutely outstanding. And you look at the guys at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the lineup, it's Hap and Suzuki, and it's
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  Speaker 1: Bush and of course it's Kyle Tucker, and that is
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  Speaker 1: what has.
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  Speaker 2: Keyed their resurgence offensively.
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  Speaker 1: Ultimately, the bottom of the order will determine whether this
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  Speaker 1: is a.
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  Speaker 2: Really good offense or not.
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  Speaker 1: But let me show you Elana just where they stand
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  Speaker 1: in the majors in runs per game, because like the
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  Speaker 1: Mets with the rotation, this is a big gap. The
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  Speaker 1: Cubs right now averaging six point twenty seven runs per game.
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  Speaker 1: That's almost the run per game more than the next team,
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  Speaker 1: that's the Yankees at five point four to eight. You see,
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  Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks are right there, the Reds and the Brewers
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  Speaker 1: as well. Interestingly enough, we've got the Reds on the
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  Speaker 1: good rotation list and the good scoring list, and they're
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  Speaker 1: only about a five hundred team so far, so maybe
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  Speaker 1: that will change because those are good signs. But the Cubs, man,
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  Speaker 1: they are bringing Wrigley Field back to where it should be,
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  Speaker 1: that electric atmosphere that we saw when they were really
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  Speaker 1: good in the mid twenty tens. And even with the
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  Speaker 1: Dodger fans marching through Wrigleyville yesterday and kind of take
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  Speaker 1: it over things, Cubs had a pretty good couple of days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cubs get the win, they get the sweep,
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  Speaker 3: so you can have all the pantone two ninety four,
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  Speaker 3: you know, fans in the stands if you want to,
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  Speaker 3: but the Cubs ultimately with the victory. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 3: the schedule, though, Ken, because you mentioned it. April opponents
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  Speaker 3: for the Cubbies the Athletics San Diego, Texas, the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 3: the Padres Arizona, the Dodgers again, the Dodgers and the
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  Speaker 3: Cubs are done playing each other. Finally, the Pirates and
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies. Now in May, it gets supposedly a little
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  Speaker 3: bit easier, right, They have the Marlins, the Giants, who
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  Speaker 3: are a good team, the Mets, Miami, the White Sox
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  Speaker 3: Miami again, Cincinnati, Colorado, Cincinnati, and they are done with
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  Speaker 3: La San Diego and Arizona. So one would think that
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  Speaker 3: they got through the toughest part of their schedule and
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  Speaker 3: maybe they can even you know, pad that lead a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. So the schedule ken is in the cubs
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  Speaker 3: favor it is, but.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of you know this from years of covering
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  Speaker 1: the game too, that can be a trap, and you
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  Speaker 1: can't ease up when you're playing lesser teams. It's still
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, and on any given night, any team
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  Speaker 1: can beat any other. And as someone pointed out to
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  Speaker 1: me yesterday with the Cubs, he said, hey, the days
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  Speaker 1: when the Pirates are pitching Paul Skeins and the days
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  Speaker 1: when the Marlins are pitching Max Meyer, we can.
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  Speaker 2: Bring him into the conversation as well.
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  Speaker 1: Those days those teams are like playoff teams. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not as easy as you think. But certainly just getting
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  Speaker 1: through what they've gotten through with the Dodgers, the Padres
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  Speaker 1: and Diamondbacks being done with those teams that you would
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  Speaker 1: think is a huge advantage because those three teams are.
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  Speaker 2: Candidates to be the best team in baseball too.
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  Speaker 1: So you're looking at that and just seeing what should
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  Speaker 1: be for the Cubs, a little bit of an easier
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  Speaker 1: road now, whether they take advantage of it, whether they
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  Speaker 1: continue playing as well, that all remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so hot of Sharma with this tweet. After being
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  Speaker 3: an afterthought for too long, the Cubs are once again
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  Speaker 3: I must see attraction to your point, Ken Miller, Ken Rosenthal,
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  Speaker 3: they have regally rocking on an entertaining group that's off
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  Speaker 3: to a hot start. So it's fine. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: baseball's better when the Cubs are good. It's just, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's one of those teams, one of those franchises that
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  Speaker 3: you like to see have success. Let's speak about the
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  Speaker 3: Arizona Diamondbacks for just a second and the bullpen reshuffle.
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  Speaker 3: Tory Lavello, who is one of my favorite guys in
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  Speaker 3: the game. I know people love playing for him because
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  Speaker 3: of his communications, and he had a bit of a
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  Speaker 3: self critique about burning one of his relievers. What do
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  Speaker 3: you make of this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was interesting what he said was that with
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  Speaker 1: aj Puck going down now that maybe he used him
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  Speaker 1: too heavily, and what he referred to was not just
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  Speaker 1: putting him in games but warming him up and not
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  Speaker 1: putting him in games, burning him, so to speak. And
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  Speaker 1: that can happen with managers and relievers. Sometimes the score
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  Speaker 1: will shift. For instance, you're using a leverage guy or
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  Speaker 1: planning to use a leverage guy, and all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden you go from three to one to up six
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  Speaker 1: to one.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to use him, but that can take
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  Speaker 2: a toll.
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  Speaker 1: And the one point I want to make here besides
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  Speaker 1: praising Lavello for his asti because most managers do not
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  Speaker 1: admit when they might have made a mistake. But beyond that,
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  Speaker 1: it's very difficult for those of us on the outside,
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  Speaker 1: including media but of course fans as well, to judge
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  Speaker 1: a bullpen usage when we don't always have all of
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  Speaker 1: the information. Now, you might say, can reporter's job to
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  Speaker 1: get the information, Well, sometimes they don't volunteer the information,
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  Speaker 1: and they don't answer the questions when asked, because sometimes
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  Speaker 1: a reliever might be feeling less than one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: and might ask for a few days off. Sometimes you'll
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  Speaker 1: have situations like this where a manager has gotten a
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  Speaker 1: guy up a few times in recent days and he's
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  Speaker 1: not ready. And again we don't necessarily have all of
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  Speaker 1: this access to this information. So there are things that
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  Speaker 1: happen with bullpen usage that sometimes look kind of hard
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  Speaker 1: to figure out and weird. Right, you don't really see
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  Speaker 1: why this is going on. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: there are explanations, and if the teams give it explanation, great,
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  Speaker 1: If not, sometimes it's.
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  Speaker 2: A little hard to judge.
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  Speaker 1: So I always caution myself and even fans too.
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  Speaker 2: We need to find out more, We need to know more.
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  Speaker 2: We don't always know everything.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's the point I'm trying to make.
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  Speaker 2: We don't always know everything. I know that's hard for
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  Speaker 2: people and so media to believe. But it's the truth.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, if it's on X, then it must
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  Speaker 3: be true. And speaking of teams that sometimes keep information
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  Speaker 3: close to the vest, that's our first question in Grill
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  Speaker 3: and Ken. Let's get to it all right, here's the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to ask Ken Rosenthal some questions about this great
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  Speaker 3: game of ours. The first one is in regards to
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  Speaker 3: Blake Snell. And the reason I said that is because
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers sometimes keep things very close to the vest,
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  Speaker 3: and Justin wants to know, are we screwed here? In
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  Speaker 3: la is Blake Snell out for the year. Remember Ken.
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  Speaker 3: The reason Justin is asking this is when they put
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  Speaker 3: Blake Snell on the shelf. It was only supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be about to start. Well, now they've shut him down again,
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  Speaker 3: not necessarily disclosing a ton of information. But what do
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  Speaker 3: you make of it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to make of it, But I
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  Speaker 1: do know that teams, the Dodgers included, but not exclusively them,
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  Speaker 1: frequently say one thing about injuries and it turns out
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  Speaker 1: to be an Now, sometimes it's not that they're lying,
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  Speaker 1: it's just that things don't improve as quickly as they
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  Speaker 1: might hope. But I don't know that we can necessarily
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  Speaker 1: even think that Blake Snell might be f for the year.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's concerning.
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  Speaker 1: It's concerning anytime a player or pitcher says or is told, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay in a week or ten days,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's not. And this seems to be where
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  Speaker 1: we are with Snell. The most recent il placement along
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  Speaker 1: these lines is Corey Seeger.
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  Speaker 2: With the Texas Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: Ah that mild Corey's gonna be okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, maybe, but we'll see if.
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  Speaker 1: He's back in ten days. And I used to work
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  Speaker 1: with someone at the Baltimore Sun. His name was Peter Schmuck, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that was his name, and Peter always would say, always
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  Speaker 1: overwrite injuries. And what he meant was, don't take the
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  Speaker 1: club's word for it. Write it like worst case scenario. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you can't really do that, but he was joking, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes these things turn out to be worse than the
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  Speaker 1: clubs think. Grayson Rodriguez with the Orioles s guy ever
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  Speaker 1: coming back, he gets hurt and we think, hey, he.
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  Speaker 2: Might be back girly mid April. No, he's not back yet.
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  Speaker 1: So this kind of thing happens all the time with Snell, though.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing you can only go with the information
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  Speaker 1: that you have and you're given. And it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: to be season threatening or anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Greason Rodriguez only one of the question marks when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to the Orioles rotation. It seems like that's
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  Speaker 3: in flux and quite the mess over there in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 3: Another question regarding the Dodgers, are they being too cautious? Ken?
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  Speaker 3: What I mean by that? Are they being too cautious
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  Speaker 3: in terms of Snell and Otani playing the long game,
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  Speaker 3: if you will, not rushing them to come back too soon.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're not, in my opinion, and a lot I
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  Speaker 1: want you to weigh in on this as well, because
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  Speaker 1: you follow this team so closely. But everything they are doing,
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  Speaker 1: literally everything is pointing toward October. They want five starters
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  Speaker 1: or three or four starter is more likely to be
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  Speaker 1: ready to go in October at full throttle, kind of
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: the way Yamamoto was last year after.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: He missed so much time, he came back in September
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: then was really.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Good in October. And with Otani, they're slow playing it.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: For that reason. With Snell it's a little bit different.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: He is hurt right now. We'll have to see how
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: it goes, but they're.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Going to be extra cautious with not just pitchers but
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: position players as well.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more. There's no reason to
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: rush show Hey Otani back. I know everyone pet's heads
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: are falling off because the Dodgers just got swept by
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: the Cubs. They're not you know, one hundred and sixty
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: two and oh, they're not on that pace. But again
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: to your point, this club is built for October. I mean,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: it's an abomination if they don't get into the postseason.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: They're thinking long term and they will have their reinforcements
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: coming back. Obviously with Clayton Kershaw coming back. Gonsolin's going
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: to be back soon, so they do have some arms
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: coming back. Another question for you here on Grill and Ken.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: This is from foul Teratory, our group over there is
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: there an Al East rotation that is World Series worthy?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: That's a really good question, and actually there might be one,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: but it's not from a team that you might expect.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's rotation once Shame klanahan comes back, is going
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: to be really good. It's McClanahan, it's Shane Boz, It's
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: TDJ Bradley, it's Drew Rasmussen. Zach Lttel's their fifth right now.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: He's more than an adequate starter, So that could be one.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Now you're asking about teams that are more likely to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: be there. The Yankees theoretically with Freed, Rodan and Schmid
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and if Louis Heal comes back. Okay, maybe the Red
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Sox now now that Bio is back, with Crochet Bueller
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: coming on. Maybe, But I understand the question. The Ools,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I would certainly say, are not a World Series type rotation,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and the Blue Jays, if Sherzer gets healthy and Bassett
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and Burrios and Gossman are good, they're okay too. So
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: it's not as if these teams all have terrible rotations.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And you know what, too, we've seen this, Teams with
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: dominant rotations don't always necessarily end up as World Series champions.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Those aren't necessarily the teams that are going to win.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: The Dodgors rotation last year headed by Flaherty with Bueller
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: in it and Yamamoto it was good, it wasn't amazing.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: So you can win in a number of ways.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: And the way teams bullpen, now, I would expect that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the next World Series champion is not going to be
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: necessarily the team with the best rotation.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: All right, So you're saying that the Seattle Mariners will
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: not be the World Series champion because they have the
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: best rotation. I know I'm not saying that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And the Bards are playing really well without George Kirby,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and their offense has been surprisingly good in the last
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: week or two. So if you have it, great, but
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I'm saying you don't necessarily need it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mariners putting one to the Boston Red Sox yesterday.
• 18:52
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• 18:54
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  Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Ken, time to give somebody a shout out.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Who is your Dude of the week for this week?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Hunter Brown?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: And he's a guy that I don't know that many
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: people pegged as a cy Young contender going into the season,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: certainly a promising pitcher with the Houston ashtro is someone
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: who has been really good, but right now fourth in
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the majors in ERA behind Molly, Yamamoto and Crochet. He's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: got a one point one six ERA thirty one strikeouts
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and six walks. He has been absolutely dominant. He is
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: my Dude of the week and he's my due to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the week because he's not a guy that we've necessarily
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: talked about, and yet he has thrust himself right into
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the cy Young well, the early Cy Young conversation.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good call for me. It is going
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: to be Blue Jay's reliever. Paxton Schultz and this is
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: a guy that basically made his major league debut Ken
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and then just went ahead and set a record. So
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: good for him. Watching the Blue Jays broadcast and Dan
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Shulman was talking about how the fact that he's, you know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: making his major league debut, then he goes out there
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and has makes the record for strikeouts by a reliever
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: to start his debut. So Paxson Schultz, congratulations to you.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Way to you know, get the job done. I mean,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: he goes out there and just absolutely shoves. I mean
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: maybe that's because Ken and you've covered this game a
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: very long time too, maybe it's better to you know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: know what you don't know type of situation. I just
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: think that's pretty cool. Like he goes out there, He's like, oh,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I've played this game my whole life. He absolutely was
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: able to carve down the Mariner's lineup.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Alana, And sometimes it does happen that way, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: let's acknowledge too. Nick Kurtz last night his major league
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: debut for the Athletics. I think the first hit he
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: had was one hundred and twelve miles an hour off
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the bat. This guy was at junior at Wake Forest
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a year ago. At this time really exciting prospect. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I also consider for due to the week Soda Strom
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: from the A's as well, because he is major league
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: home run leader right there in the middle of that race,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and he'll say, he said, I'll go to left field.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Let's let Nick Kurtz play first base.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You don't see that kind of thing often from major leaguers,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So Tyler Soderstrom good choice as well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of dudes this week. All right, time
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: now for the John Fisher dork of the week. Okay, Ken,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: who do you have?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm not gonna bild labor this.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about this on fair territory, on
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: foul territory, but my collective dorks of the week are
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the trio from Atlanta, Snicker, Kellennick, and Acunya. As I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: wrote the other day, they all should have known better.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Kellenick should have run hard, Snicker should have benched him,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and Akunya if he had a problem, should have told
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the manager privately rather than blast it out on X
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: only to take it down later. So we're not gonna
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: go into all the details again, but that was just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: not the best look. The good news for the is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that they're playing a lot better, and they're up to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: ten and fourteen.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Now they look like they're going to stabilize, and.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Once Acooni gets back, they'll be that much better too.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing I've learned is there's certain teams that
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you don't count out. And the Atlanta Braves Ken, the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Houston Astros, the Los Angeles Dodgers, those are three of
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: the teams that I never count out. My dork of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: the week happens to do with the other team in
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Southern California, and it's not the Padres, it's the Angels.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: And why on earth they would schedule a six twenty
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: nine pm game on a travel day. So this club
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: is going to have to play at six twenty nine,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: then they have to fly. I believe they're going to
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Minnesota next correct. Then they play in Minnesota a night game,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: and then they have a day game the next day. Now,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: with the Collective Bargaining Agreement, six twenty nine pm ken
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: is the latest minute allowed by the CBA, and then
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you know a day game is standard. That's what they
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: should have done, what they typically do if they can.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: The home team gets to decide if they're going to
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: have a day game on a get away day. I
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: just don't understand why the Angels thought. I mean, I
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: guess it's because of the gate. Obviously, you want to
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: be able to make money, but you gotta put I
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: would think you'd want to put your players first.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You would think a lot that would be what a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: major league franchise would do. But the Angels, according to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the story by Sam Blum, which was terrific, have consistently
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: done this kind of thing, playing night games on a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: travel day or a getaway day, I should say.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And it just speaks to where they are as a franchise.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And we've talked about them being dysfunctional under owner Arte
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Moreno for quite some time now, and that dysfunction manifests
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: itself in any number of ways, and this is the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: latest one. And not only do you put your players
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: in a physically compromised state because they get less rest,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: but it's a morale thing too. It ticks the players off,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and it makes it a less pleasant place to be.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And I'll add one more thing on the great Angels.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Griffin Canning, one of the worst pitchers in Major League
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Baseball last year with the Angels. Suddenly he's with the Mets,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: one of the better pitchers in Major League Baseball this year.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's all because of the Angels screwing
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: up and the Mets doing great things with pitching, which
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: they are doing, but that's a reflection too on where.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: They are and some of the reasoning for this. I
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: guess doing the math, it was going to be against
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Paul Skins. It's not. Paul Skeins is actually pitching the
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: next day, so the six to twenty nine PM start
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: will not be opposed to with Paul Skeins. It's got
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: to be because obviously they want the gate and there's
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: more attendance in night games. But it's a long season.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: And talk about ticking off the players, you are absolutely
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: right when it comes to that doesn't sound like a
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: priority in the next CBA, though, ken since most teams
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: avoid this type of practice. I mean, it's like, seems
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: like the Angels are the only ones doing this, So
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I would imagine next CBA this isn't much of a conversation.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: There are greater things for the players and owners to
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: be fighting about, money being one of them, being two
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of them, and the rest of them too. But I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: will say this as well about the Angels.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You want to make more money, you want to get
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: better gates. How about building a better team.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: That's how you do it.
• 26:12
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  Speaker 3: All right, Ken, I know that you have your big
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: game on Saturday for Fox. Where are you headed and
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: give us a quick thought about this upcoming matchup.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Wrickleyfield, which has been the place to be in baseball
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: this week. The Phillies are come in fresh off getting
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: swept by the Mets in New York, so it's a
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: big series for them, and Saturday's matchup is Heesus Lozardo
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: versus Ben Brown Lozarto of course having a tremendous year
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: so far for the Phillies. Ben Brown is the guy
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: essentially stepping up for Justin Steele in the Cubs rotation.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be really interesting to see these
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: two teams go at it to see how long the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Cubs can sustain this crazy offense that they've had, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting as well to see whether the Phillies
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: kind of start getting it going, because I imagine that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: they will pretty soon.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another team. When I talked about teams that
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I never quite give up on, the Philadelphia Phillies and
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Rob Thompson in that whole group, another team that you
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: know that they're going to get things going in the
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: right direction. Well, thank you to everybody that has been
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: with us today on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal and yes, guys,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I know that Justin Steele is a Cub. Geez, thanks
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: for watching us here today. Don't forget. Foul Territory is
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: next coming up with me aj Eric Kratz. Scott Braun
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: is off. But we have a big guest list, Carlos
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Mendez of the Mets, Bartolo Cologne, former Met, and Tim
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Kirchin of course, and then Dodgers Territory returns after Fouled
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Territory with myself and Clintasius. Trevor May, host of May Day,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: is gonna join us as well. For Ken Rosenthal, I'm
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Alana Rizzo. We'll see you next time.