Latest / Brian Thomas / Congressman Warren Davidson chats with Brian 4/9/2026
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- 0:16Speaker 1: Seven oh six here fifty five krs DE Talk Station, Thursday.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Try to make it a happy one and please extend
- 0:22Speaker 1: prayers to the Joe Streker family, notably Joe and his
- 0:25Speaker 1: mom for the passage of Joe's father yesterday. Were all
- 0:29Speaker 1: heartbroken over that, So please keep the prayers coming to
- 0:31Speaker 1: this Treker family. And welcome back to the fifty five
- 0:33Speaker 1: KRSEE Morning Show, Congressman Warren Davidson. It's always a pleasure
- 0:36Speaker 1: to have you on the morning show, sir. Welcome back.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely an honor. Missed the greeting there from Joe
- 0:42Speaker 2: and definitely morning with him and my condolences to him
- 0:45Speaker 2: his family.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I know Joe and his family truly appreciate that, Congressman Davidson.
- 0:49Speaker 1: And one of the things that's got me troubled here
- 0:51Speaker 1: about this so called ceasefire that was negotiated the other day,
- 0:53Speaker 1: they're still talking. Apparently it was designed to allow for
- 0:56Speaker 1: a little more time to sit down and go over
- 0:59Speaker 1: these various whether it's Trump fifteen or two or fifty
- 1:02Speaker 1: or seventy five point plan. The Iranians have a ten
- 1:05Speaker 1: point plan, and the one that I want to focus
- 1:07Speaker 1: on right out of the gate here Sir, Iran wants
- 1:10Speaker 1: to control the Straight of Horror moves and as of
- 1:12Speaker 1: right now, it apparently is it's only allowing certain ships
- 1:16Speaker 1: to go through. Tolls are required to be paid in
- 1:19Speaker 1: cryptocurrency or Chinese you on, which is interesting. You got
- 1:23Speaker 1: to work with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard to get your
- 1:25Speaker 1: ship through, which is interesting. And the big thing floating
- 1:29Speaker 1: around to the background of all this, we keep getting
- 1:30Speaker 1: accused of committing war crimes. The United States does, and
- 1:34Speaker 1: you know, civilian targets and all that violating international law, Sir.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Is the Straight of Horror moves, not international waters and
- 1:41Speaker 1: prior and how is it that Iranians have come to
- 1:43Speaker 1: control something that international require. International law requires guaranteed freedom
- 1:48Speaker 1: of navigation. Are we going to seed control to international
- 1:52Speaker 1: waters to the Iranians?
- 1:53Speaker 2: Sir? Yeah, I mean that's obviously something that can't endure.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And you know, I had a short piece that I
- 2:03Speaker 2: put out about you know, my view is the best
- 2:06Speaker 2: way to resolve this is like a Persian Gulf governance
- 2:10Speaker 2: board governance body, and Iran can only be included in that,
- 2:14Speaker 2: you know, if they have good behavior, if their new
- 2:17Speaker 2: leadership acts like new leadership, and they stick to the plan,
- 2:22Speaker 2: which you know, they give up their nuclear weapons, they
- 2:24Speaker 2: stop their material support for terrorism, and that would be
- 2:30Speaker 2: a radical change for Iran. That's the reason that so
- 2:33Speaker 2: much you know, firepower has been directed at Iran, you know,
- 2:39Speaker 2: by the United States and Israel, and you know, instead
- 2:42Speaker 2: they're continuing. The ceasefire hasn't held, right, so Iran has
- 2:48Speaker 2: not truly freed up the straight up warmuse And immediately
- 2:54Speaker 2: Benjamin net Yahu said, well, you know not not Lovnon. Well,
- 2:57Speaker 2: the initial statement was including right, So so far the
- 3:03Speaker 2: President Trump has said, well, look, you know, let's make
- 3:06Speaker 2: this work. We're close on most points, but that doesn't
- 3:10Speaker 2: mean we're there, right. So it wasn't like, hey, a
- 3:12Speaker 2: deal is done. It was like, yeah, we're close enough
- 3:15Speaker 2: to have a ceasfire, let's continue the dialogue and get
- 3:18Speaker 2: this done. And I think that the undercurrent here is
- 3:22Speaker 2: is right, is the common denominators. They're working to undermine
- 3:26Speaker 2: the US dollar and they've been working with science. So
- 3:30Speaker 2: how does China go from supplying weapons to Iran to
- 3:36Speaker 2: you know, reportedly being helpful to get this ceasefire negotiated?
- 3:41Speaker 2: And I think look, China has got a massive dependency
- 3:44Speaker 2: on oil they don't have enough, and they can't just
- 3:47Speaker 2: get from Russia, so they get quite a lot from
- 3:50Speaker 2: not just Iran, but other countries in the Persian Gulf.
- 3:53Speaker 2: So they're very much disrupted. And it's not just you
- 3:57Speaker 2: know all, it's all the patroleum based products in the
- 4:00Speaker 2: entire industry. So even if everything went back to normal
- 4:04Speaker 2: today and everybody's all happy, singing kumbai ya and all
- 4:07Speaker 2: the tolls are working correctly to rebuild everything in the
- 4:10Speaker 2: Persian Gulf, it's going to take years to get back
- 4:12Speaker 2: to the kind of capacity we had before this war started.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Well, and talking about the US dollar and going after
- 4:18Speaker 1: the US dollar, that exactly has me worried, I think
- 4:21Speaker 1: probably more than anything else. Behind the scenes, you know,
- 4:23Speaker 1: we're struggling with the global perception because we launched this
- 4:28Speaker 1: unilateral action against Iran. We have obviously this has impacted
- 4:31Speaker 1: our relationship with various NATO countries. They are reliants, say
- 4:36Speaker 1: let's talking about you know, for their interest not only
- 4:39Speaker 1: the straight of horror moves, but also they are reliant
- 4:42Speaker 1: on Russians to get a lot of their fuel. If
- 4:46Speaker 1: that relationship were to crumble, then they might be more
- 4:49Speaker 1: inclined to pursue a different currency, maybe bricks or something
- 4:53Speaker 1: like that. But that's a real problem down the road,
- 4:55Speaker 1: isn't it, Congressman Davidson.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I mean this is the thing that it
- 5:00Speaker 2: gets real wonky, real quick. But you can't sustain two
- 5:03Speaker 2: trillion dollar deficits, which is what we have right now,
- 5:09Speaker 2: you know anyway, but you certainly can't sustain them if
- 5:11Speaker 2: you're not the world's reserve currency. And that is really
- 5:15Speaker 2: what this is at stake here. And you know, one
- 5:17Speaker 2: of the things that is coming to nominator between Venezuela
- 5:20Speaker 2: and in Iran is in both countries China was getting
- 5:25Speaker 2: oil and they were paying for it with you on
- 5:28Speaker 2: and basically they're trying to copy the dollar and create
- 5:31Speaker 2: the petro you on instead of the petro dollar. And
- 5:34Speaker 2: when the US went off the gold standard in nineteen
- 5:36Speaker 2: seventy one, we've had all kinds of problems since then.
- 5:40Speaker 2: It's really, in a lot of ways undermined the middle class.
- 5:44Speaker 2: And you know what's the people talk about all the
- 5:47Speaker 2: other things, but they don't talk about the money. The
- 5:49Speaker 2: money is you know, the reason why you look at
- 5:51Speaker 2: your house and you go, oh, I'm pretty happy if
- 5:53Speaker 2: I'm a homeowner, life's good. But that really isn't that
- 5:57Speaker 2: your house that you didn't do anything except maintain it
- 6:01Speaker 2: go up by forty percent. It's your money got less valuable,
- 6:06Speaker 2: and you're seeing that in every other kind of way.
- 6:08Speaker 2: But assets tell the toll of the tape here, and
- 6:12Speaker 2: it's a tax. I mean, this is what's happening. Is
- 6:16Speaker 2: you get the two trillion dollars desk set, and if
- 6:19Speaker 2: Congress raised taxes enough to pay for that, well, there'd
- 6:21Speaker 2: be open revolt if we cut spending by two trillion
- 6:24Speaker 2: dollars a year so we actually had a balanced budget.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that would be incredibly painful and noticeable,
- 6:30Speaker 2: even if you take a ten year ramp to get there.
- 6:33Speaker 2: We can't pass that. I mean, we barely had the
- 6:35Speaker 2: votes to defund MPR, right, So what they're choosing instead
- 6:40Speaker 2: is to pretend that you can just keep printing money,
- 6:43Speaker 2: and you can't keep doing that. But you certainly can't
- 6:46Speaker 2: do that when the rest of the world doesn't want your.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Money, right, or the rest of the world decides that
- 6:51Speaker 1: they're not going to allow you to continue the fantasy
- 6:53Speaker 1: that you're engaged in, you know, with the printing press
- 6:55Speaker 1: running and selling bonds to the rest of the world
- 6:57Speaker 1: because you have the most reliable currency and the best economy.
- 7:02Speaker 1: You can't say that anymore when you printed yourself into
- 7:04Speaker 1: your own your own inflation because of the watering down
- 7:07Speaker 1: of the dollar. But it's like a bond rating. If
- 7:10Speaker 1: your debt isn't viewed as reliable, then why would people
- 7:13Speaker 1: buy it. It's just it's sort of like a domino
- 7:16Speaker 1: effect I can see happening.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean if even if it's viewed
- 7:21Speaker 2: as reliable, the risk rises right as your debt goes up,
- 7:25Speaker 2: so you're going to charge more interest. That's rational. So
- 7:29Speaker 2: you know, we're paying over four percent right now for bonds,
- 7:34Speaker 2: and China is paying about two percent for bonds. So
- 7:38Speaker 2: in the market there are people that want to borrow
- 7:40Speaker 2: at a lower cost. They're doing, you know, some debt
- 7:44Speaker 2: instruments in Chinese R and B and so there there's
- 7:48Speaker 2: more demand for Chinese money in that sense, and it's
- 7:52Speaker 2: viewed as reliable. China's economy is the second biggest in
- 7:55Speaker 2: the world. Nearly everybody is dependent upon them for trade,
- 8:00Speaker 2: and so they've become a rival, hopefully not a true enemy,
- 8:05Speaker 2: though you probably probably are really under sees you're paying.
- 8:10Speaker 2: They're pretty radically different. But you know, the hope is
- 8:13Speaker 2: that we just stay peaceful, friendly rivals. But do we
- 8:18Speaker 2: need the world to stay in a dollar regime? And
- 8:22Speaker 2: the consequences for that for the average American are going
- 8:24Speaker 2: to be pretty dramatic because you can't sustain the kind
- 8:28Speaker 2: of system we've been operating.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Well, you and I probably agree for years and years
- 8:32Speaker 1: and years the system's unsustainable. But going back to your point,
- 8:34Speaker 1: if you can't even cut funding the NPR, how are
- 8:38Speaker 1: you going to get a hold of something like the
- 8:40Speaker 1: thirty eight plus trillion dollar deficit we've got, which grows
- 8:43Speaker 1: every year to the two to two trillion dollars or more.
- 8:46Speaker 1: It's insane. Although fortunately at least we have this most
- 8:49Speaker 1: recent Fox News survey, they came out that across party lines,
- 8:52Speaker 1: people view government spending as wasteful and inefficient and we
- 8:56Speaker 1: should do something about it, and the vast majority of
- 8:58Speaker 1: folks Paul also said, they're tax are already too high.
- 9:01Speaker 1: So maybe there's some light at the end of the
- 9:03Speaker 1: tunnel here that where people will come around to the
- 9:05Speaker 1: realization that no, we can't rely on government. It is
- 9:08Speaker 1: full of fraud, waste, and abuse, and we shouldn't be
- 9:10Speaker 1: giving more to it. And by the way, with the
- 9:12Speaker 1: money you've taken from us already, why not start spending
- 9:15Speaker 1: it appropriately and stop the fraud from happening. Probably a
- 9:18Speaker 1: pretty easy ask.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if we would listen to voters in
- 9:23Speaker 2: that sense the hard thing. And I'll just tell you.
- 9:26Speaker 2: You know, everyone supports cuts to something besides what they
- 9:30Speaker 2: care about, right, You're like, well, I mean we don't
- 9:33Speaker 2: cut that. I mean, you can find some obscure things
- 9:36Speaker 2: out there that you think, oh, surely no one really
- 9:38Speaker 2: supports free housing for people with AIDS because you know,
- 9:43Speaker 2: BADES is pretty careable and treatable. Now people aren't being
- 9:46Speaker 2: denied housing because everyone fears what's going on like they
- 9:52Speaker 2: did in the eighties when the program was set up,
- 9:55Speaker 2: and so you could just go back to treating everyone
- 9:57Speaker 2: the same. You know, you don't give free housing to
- 10:00Speaker 2: people with cancer until they're actually poor, but if you've
- 10:03Speaker 2: got AIDS or HIV, you can go down and get
- 10:05Speaker 2: federal housing if you want. Don't to grow the program.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I'm trying to turn it off. Do you think surely
- 10:10Speaker 2: the constituency for that would go, yeah, okay, that's reasonable,
- 10:13Speaker 2: but you can't turn even things like that off. Nothing
- 10:16Speaker 2: can ever be turned off.
- 10:17Speaker 1: It's crazy. Well, we can keep on that, going down
- 10:20Speaker 1: that road until well, it all collapses, and then it
- 10:23Speaker 1: will all be turned off and it'll be more like
- 10:25Speaker 1: the Great Depression. And perhaps we need something like Congressman
- 10:27Speaker 1: Davidson to wake people up. I'm not wishing for it
- 10:30Speaker 1: or asking for it, but it seems like it's going
- 10:33Speaker 1: to take some sort of existential crisis like that for
- 10:35Speaker 1: us to pull our heads out of our collective sphincters
- 10:37Speaker 1: and wake up to the reality of overspending.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. And you know,
- 10:44Speaker 2: I run an initial campaign on don't bankrupt America and
- 10:47Speaker 2: you get there and fight on spending and you realize, well, okay,
- 10:50Speaker 2: it's not compassionate to bankrupt America. But that's where we're headed,
- 10:53Speaker 2: is to a crash site because you can't get people
- 10:55Speaker 2: to pull up. And you know, the reality is is
- 11:00Speaker 2: people are going to get to the crash site at
- 11:02Speaker 2: some point and they're simply going to say, well, we
- 11:06Speaker 2: could have prevented this if we spent even more money,
- 11:09Speaker 2: and you're like, no, no, no, this is why we're here.
- 11:13Speaker 2: And you know we're supposed to We're supposed to cut
- 11:17Speaker 2: social Security by twenty percent in twenty thirty two or
- 11:19Speaker 2: twenty thirty three. Now we're obviously not going to cut
- 11:22Speaker 2: Social Security by twenty percent. We couldn't even defund MPR, right,
- 11:25Speaker 2: I mean barely we did, we did, right, So that's
- 11:28Speaker 2: not going to happen. But that's the fantasy that even
- 11:31Speaker 2: the terrible budget models are built on. Because we've known
- 11:36Speaker 2: for my whole lifetime, everyone's talked about how unsustainable social
- 11:39Speaker 2: security is. Well, when does it really run out? It
- 11:42Speaker 2: runs out in twenty thirty two, twenty thirty three. Well,
- 11:45Speaker 2: we can't get anybody even seriously create a savings fund
- 11:51Speaker 2: for that known event that is coming, you know, the
- 11:55Speaker 2: light the end of the tunnel, that's the train headed
- 11:59Speaker 2: right at us. And we can't do that. And this
- 12:02Speaker 2: reconciliation path that we're talking about this week is just
- 12:05Speaker 2: another opportunity where we could do something like that.
- 12:08Speaker 1: That's right. Could don't wait for it to happen though.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Well more with Congressman Davis was a quick break here
- 12:13Speaker 1: at seventeen Right now, if you have KERCD Talk station
- 12:16Speaker 1: seven twenty two. If you have KRCD talk station, Brod
- 12:19Speaker 1: Thomas with congress Moarre and Davidson kind enough to join
- 12:21Speaker 1: the fifty five KRCY Morning Show regularly and talk about
- 12:23Speaker 1: these important issues real quick. Here I had Maureen want
- 12:26Speaker 1: to know Congressman Davidson speaking of the currency problem we
- 12:28Speaker 1: have here, will we ever go back to an asset
- 12:31Speaker 1: back currency as opposed to the Federal Reserve? Note? Is
- 12:33Speaker 1: that like a pipe dream?
- 12:36Speaker 2: Well, that would be one of the possibilities, but again
- 12:40Speaker 2: it'll it probably not until we hit the trash site, right, Yeah,
- 12:43Speaker 2: there's a good book out there. I mean, that's one
- 12:45Speaker 2: of the arguments made in a book called the Bitcoin Standard.
- 12:48Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people are naysayers on bitcoin,
- 12:50Speaker 2: but you know, when Iran looked at every currency they
- 12:53Speaker 2: could get in the world, including their own, they wanted bitcoin.
- 12:57Speaker 2: So now people say, well, that's why it's used for
- 13:00Speaker 2: bad stuff. Well, no, it's they're confident that they're going
- 13:04Speaker 2: to be able to access it in the future, whereas
- 13:07Speaker 2: other forms of money they would have to work with
- 13:09Speaker 2: another country on. So there are you know, reasons why
- 13:13Speaker 2: you might want different kind of money than ours. And
- 13:17Speaker 2: one of the best sites out there on this to
- 13:20Speaker 2: me is the consequences of going off the US dollar
- 13:23Speaker 2: is wtf happened in nineteen seventy one dot com and
- 13:27Speaker 2: of course August fifteenth and nineteen seventy one and Nixon
- 13:30Speaker 2: moved the United States off the gold standard. And you know,
- 13:33Speaker 2: I'm not a true gold bug. I mean I like gold.
- 13:36Speaker 2: It it's done well and it makes sense. It's always
- 13:39Speaker 2: been used as money ever since we've had money, right,
- 13:42Speaker 2: And so when you look at the options, though, you
- 13:49Speaker 2: at least have to get back to some kind of
- 13:50Speaker 2: sanity where math is real, right, so you at least
- 13:56Speaker 2: pay for the spending you're doing, like states do know,
- 14:00Speaker 2: and well, but we have a currency. Well yeah, you
- 14:03Speaker 2: have a printing press, but inflationist theft, right, you're stealing
- 14:07Speaker 2: money from people. And you know, think if if the
- 14:11Speaker 2: government had actually raised your taxes across the board like
- 14:16Speaker 2: they have, your income taxes like they have. The reality
- 14:21Speaker 2: is property taxes. We're facing a ballot initiative is to
- 14:23Speaker 2: move off. And what happened to property taxes. Everyone's in
- 14:28Speaker 2: a bit of a revolt here because your property taxes
- 14:31Speaker 2: went up, you know, forty percent or so over the
- 14:33Speaker 2: past few years and who did that. Well, the federal
- 14:38Speaker 2: government did that because they destroyed your US dollar, no doubt.
- 14:42Speaker 2: And the answer isn't necessarily to go remove property taxes
- 14:46Speaker 2: as a mechanism. I mean, it's a good argument. I
- 14:50Speaker 2: don't like property taxes that much either, but at least
- 14:52Speaker 2: you vote on them locally and spend them locally. But
- 14:54Speaker 2: the root cause for this problem is the massive debt
- 14:58Speaker 2: and deficits in Washington, DC, where the money is being printed.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Well, Congressman Davidson, as we part company this morning, I yet,
- 15:05Speaker 1: just yesterday Acting US Attorney Tittal Job General Todd Blanche
- 15:09Speaker 1: revealed that the Justice Department is investigating more than eight
- 15:12Speaker 1: thousand fraud cases, which he said represents over one trillion
- 15:15Speaker 1: dollars in taxpayer funds that were stolen potentially. And he said,
- 15:19Speaker 1: that's only a fraction. If we can't get government to
- 15:22Speaker 1: stop spending, can we at least get government to stop
- 15:25Speaker 1: giving away money to criminals? Is there something we can
- 15:28Speaker 1: collectively do to stop that? Because that enjoys widespread bipartisan support.
- 15:34Speaker 2: It does enjoy bipartisan support in the public, but in Congress,
- 15:38Speaker 2: remember how everyone lost their minds when those was starting
- 15:42Speaker 2: to find and expose these things. This was like the
- 15:46Speaker 2: the Accounting investigation to highlight the problems. Now we're finally
- 15:49Speaker 2: getting some law enforcement over this target. And you know,
- 15:52Speaker 2: our own local guy, Vice President Advance is leading up
- 15:55Speaker 2: a lot of that task force and working on it
- 15:58Speaker 2: to create the structure within the department to really get
- 16:00Speaker 2: after this. And so hopefully that's one of the things
- 16:03Speaker 2: that can really get done, and it'll I think we'll
- 16:05Speaker 2: have broad support until you go after the NGOs and
- 16:10Speaker 2: leering centers that are out there running the scams.
- 16:13Speaker 1: And giving money back to corrupt politicians who perpetuate the
- 16:16Speaker 1: corrupt system that we are currently living with. Might I emphasize.
- 16:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And look it's the same scam centers around
- 16:25Speaker 2: the world are pretty bipartisan going after them. So when
- 16:28Speaker 2: they're scamming seniors, I've got complete collaboration with Democrats and
- 16:33Speaker 2: the House Financial Services Committee, But when the scams are
- 16:37Speaker 2: basically scamming our own government, well, you know, don't go
- 16:41Speaker 2: after the scammers. This has got benefits. And I had
- 16:44Speaker 2: a conversation like this with a colleague of Democrat colleague
- 16:47Speaker 2: and he said, hey, we could reform this particular program,
- 16:50Speaker 2: and he goes, yeah, yeah, I always wanted to do that,
- 16:53Speaker 2: and I said, well, why haven't you done it since
- 16:56Speaker 2: you're here? You know, he used to be a mayor
- 16:57Speaker 2: of a big city and now you know he's like, well, yeah,
- 17:00Speaker 2: I started working on that my first term and somebody
- 17:02Speaker 2: came over there and said, hey, buddy, stop messling with that.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Every one of these programs helped somebody we need help from.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Don't reveal the dirty little Yeah, there's definitely a feedback loop.
- 17:12Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, no doubt about it. Congress More
- 17:13Speaker 1: and Davidson. God bless you for joining the program and
- 17:15Speaker 1: spending time with my listeners and me. I appreciate your
- 17:17Speaker 1: willingness to do so. We'll get you back on real
- 17:19Speaker 1: soon and I hope you have a fantastic week between
- 17:22Speaker 1: now and next time we talk.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, God bless you and all your listeners.