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Justin Jones and DJ Winstead: Idle Threat · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Sometimes nothing Aga.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Today we've got JJ and DJ from Idle Threat.
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: JJ.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: As everyone knows at this point, you're basically just an
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: honorary co host. Uh, but so we don't you know,
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: you need no introduction. But DJ, I think this is
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: the first time you've been on Black Sheepe, right, correct,
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: that's right, because I think we had like maybe Ernie
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: on years ago. Uh but uh yeah, uh, DJ, what
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: do you do in the band?
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: What's it? What's your role?
• 0:57
  Speaker 4: Guitar?
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Guitar books and jumping, Yeah, jumping and yeah, total sex appeal.
• 1:04
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, well, I don't I'm the member of the
• 1:07
  Speaker 4: band that doesn't exist on the internet. Sure on the internet.
• 1:13
  Speaker 5: You're actually the one that writes all the guitar parts
• 1:16
  Speaker 5: from from what I remember you told me last time.
• 1:18
  Speaker 4: Right, of every song, even the ones before I was
• 1:23
  Speaker 4: in the band.
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: Yeahow, that's impressive.
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: That's uh, that's very christ like of you.
• 1:34
  Speaker 6: Uh. This is gonna get really unhinged, isn't it.
• 1:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we're I mean, we we said before
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: we started recording, like, if if there's not a way
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: for us to get Idle Threat canceled by one community
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: or another, then this episode has failed.
• 1:49
  Speaker 5: Dude, all I've got in my belly is for hard
• 1:52
  Speaker 5: balled exist. Alcohol is gonna really rip and roll pretty quick.
• 1:57
  Speaker 4: Your gas slater is going.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: You there better not be a gas leak in that.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: In that basement of yours.
• 2:08
  Speaker 4: You're full of hard world and.
• 2:11
  Speaker 5: Nicotine, living the real man's life.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: I love it all right, let's uh, let's uh, let's
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: chat about new Idle Threat. So it's been a while
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: since the last album came out, which, uh yeah, twenty
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: twenty one.
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  Speaker 5: Now you guys are a hiatus for real?
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, basically I'm gonna.
• 2:35
  Speaker 4: Yes and no.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: I you know, I it's so great when a band
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: comes back from hiatus and it surprises us with some
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: of the best stuff they've ever made.
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  Speaker 3: I just it's like one of my favorite things.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: And like I get to add Idle Threat into that,
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: like group of bands now that just comes back from
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: hiatus with even better, you know, better music.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it was a long eighty seven year, but
• 3:01
  Speaker 6: we're back there.
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  Speaker 5: The long the long walk in the wilderness is what
• 3:06
  Speaker 5: we call that.
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  Speaker 2: It is kind of crazy though, like it's been five
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: years now. I mean, like I remember it felt like
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  Speaker 2: a whole lifetime ago.
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  Speaker 5: Half a decade.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: And you know what's really funny is, uh JJ, you've
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: been on the podcast, you know, however many times now,
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: and you've been plugging this new album like like at
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: least a good solid two years. Like this album has
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: gotten so much promo for so long. It's it's pretty
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: like if it doesn't live up to expectations, then I
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: don't know that maybe just the music sucks.
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know. In his defense, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: while we were on hiatus, obviously, uh you know, the
• 3:42
  Speaker 4: writing never stopped. But we've been writing for this album
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  Speaker 4: for I mean probably since around the time Blurred Visions
• 3:49
  Speaker 4: came out. We've got because because I like catalog everything
• 3:53
  Speaker 4: on my phone, because that's how I just you know,
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: if I think of like an idea or something, I'll
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: just kind of play it, film it. The shirt video
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: yeah sure, yeah, of shirtless videos.
• 4:02
  Speaker 5: They're all shirtless, most of them are.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of it's kind of become a thing
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  Speaker 4: now like if you send a video you stoff playing guitar,
• 4:09
  Speaker 4: like you just take go ahead and take your shirt off.
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  Speaker 2: Does JJ send one back just pantless going commando?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know this this sounds like like if if
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: you all were doing this, you know, just sending videos
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  Speaker 2: back and forth, just shirtless of you know, some of
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  Speaker 2: like the little riffs or whatever you're you're writing that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that sounds like a music video in and
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  Speaker 2: of itself. I don't know how appropriate that be. I like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it would be on Jesus Freak Hideout
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  Speaker 2: for very long, but it it would, it would at
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  Speaker 2: least fancy my tickle.
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  Speaker 5: I just I didn't know that Idle Threat was was
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  Speaker 5: catering to the hole more eroticism of their of their
• 4:52
  Speaker 5: their fan.
• 4:52
  Speaker 4: Base, trying to have we just need We decided post
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  Speaker 4: hardboard needs more male nipple. So yeah, that's really the a.
• 5:04
  Speaker 5: Do you remember the nineties when like every single hard
• 5:07
  Speaker 5: rock band had had like one like usually like the
• 5:11
  Speaker 5: bassist that just had like the giant nipple piercings. Oh yeah,
• 5:16
  Speaker 5: whatever happened to that. I'm not saying I liked it,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm just saying it was.
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  Speaker 4: A vibe we need to get.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, could you imagine wasn't wasn't the system
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  Speaker 3: of a down guy like he had crazy?
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  Speaker 5: Like Oh yeah, yeah, I think of yeah Comerford from
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  Speaker 5: uh from Rage oh really. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Also the lead singer for a lit had he for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I've watched videos where he's he had just one pierced nipple,
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: though he just only pierced the one that's extra edgy.
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: Shout out Ryan Day, Ohio State coach when his pure sniffles.
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  Speaker 5: Does he really.
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  Speaker 3: Look like Ryan You kind of look like he looks
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  Speaker 3: like Ryan Day?
• 6:15
  Speaker 5: If headset.
• 6:19
  Speaker 6: About to go coach a football team, if.
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  Speaker 4: I do, do you have a play coach on the
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State way?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you do kind of look like you're gonna go
• 6:29
  Speaker 5: slap the ass of a nose guard.
• 6:30
  Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, just handful. You know, he's both hands.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 2: The coaches that did the butt slaps were your favorite coaches, however,
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: the best.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody wins.
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  Speaker 5: You know that is true.
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  Speaker 3: My wide receivers coach in college was like that.
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  Speaker 2: He just he like always just was a butt tapper.
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  Speaker 2: He was and he was the best. He was the
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  Speaker 2: best wide receiver.
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  Speaker 6: This explains a lot about Mason.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it does.
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  Speaker 4: Over there, just biting his lip.
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the new album.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, there's been plenty of time in between and as
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  Speaker 2: we've already talked about, so I'd love to hear from
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  Speaker 2: both of you, Like you know, when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: Idle Threat, you know there's been it's like, this is
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: the third full length, right am I right there?
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  Speaker 4: Third full length?
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  Speaker 5: Second second full length?
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  Speaker 2: That's right, yeah, because then the EP before that, that's.
• 7:31
  Speaker 5: Right, the Chernobyl cover, that's right.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So so second full length. But you guys have
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: been around for a while too, which is really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about just I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if there's like new things that you were maybe
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: wanting to explore on this album? You know, JJ, maybe
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  Speaker 2: there was like different things from a drumming standpoint, you
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: were maybe you know, wanting to do a little differently.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe you were writing a little differently DJ. Maybe there
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: were like different kinds of riffs that you were like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we should do that a little differently. I'm just curious, like,
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  Speaker 2: and from a from a writing standpoint, was there anything
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  Speaker 2: different that you guys were trying to do?
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  Speaker 6: I think like, at least from my perspective, not really
• 8:05
  Speaker 6: much changed on my end. I just hit stuff, but
• 8:08
  Speaker 6: I will go ahead and speak stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Is that kind of just your mentality going in every album.
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  Speaker 6: Literally, yes. So what usually happens is we'll go to
• 8:18
  Speaker 6: the studio and I'll play something, and I get told
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  Speaker 6: to play less and less and less and less throughout everything,
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  Speaker 6: and then it just gets chopped up from there. But
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  Speaker 6: I will go ahead and seeing DJ's praises because this
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  Speaker 6: record one hundred thousand percent would not be as good
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  Speaker 6: as it is without his fingerprints all over it. And
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  Speaker 6: we can talk about Keach producing it and stuff later.
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  Speaker 6: But it was really nice to have like the five
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  Speaker 6: of us actually be able to put all this together
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  Speaker 6: and and you know, take the eighty seven years and
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  Speaker 6: piece it all together. But I really did love that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the three guitar players got to hash it
• 9:00
  Speaker 6: all out with each other and you can really tell
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  Speaker 6: like whose hands kind of went where and stuff. So
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  Speaker 6: I think it covers a very broad spectrum of what
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  Speaker 6: Idle Threat has to offer. So and DJ obviously can
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  Speaker 6: go into more about the guitars, but yeah, I just
• 9:18
  Speaker 6: wanted to brag on him a little bit, don't Hell.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the string side of stuff was was a lot
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  Speaker 4: different because this was the first time we've ever written
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  Speaker 4: we wrote intentionally for having three guitars, and that's not
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  Speaker 4: been the case previously because you know Idle started as
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  Speaker 4: a four piece, yeah, four piece. Then you know I
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  Speaker 4: came into the fold and we were still a four piece,
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  Speaker 4: and then Nathan came into the fold, and then that's
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  Speaker 4: like sometimes we're five, sometimes we're four. But for all
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  Speaker 4: the old songs when we play live, it's just like
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  Speaker 4: adapted versions to like make it work on three guitars,
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  Speaker 4: you know, so we've like added new parts to old
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: songs and stuff like that. But this is the first
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  Speaker 4: time we started like ground up, you know, with three
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  Speaker 4: guitars in mind, and the writing process changed a lot,
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: just like from a technology standpoint between Blurred Visions and
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: You'll forget the Sun because you know, five years is
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: a long time in music tech if you follow like
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. You know, everything for for Blurred
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  Speaker 4: and and everything prior to that was written with just
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: dudes and am so yeah, it was all AI. This one.
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  Speaker 4: It was just dudes in a room, amps on, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like full volume, and and everybody's like trying to like
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  Speaker 4: play over each other and understand each other, and it's
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: it's hard to like provide context if you have an idea,
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  Speaker 4: so sometimes it doesn't come across and that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And this time around, we we were a lot more deliberate,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we had we did a lot more digitally
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  Speaker 4: this time, and by like with AI, you know, we
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: would like plug a riff in a chat GPT and say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: can you make this better? You know, and do that.
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  Speaker 4: But but just.
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  Speaker 2: Like you just like put their drum part in to
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: chat g EVT and it just comes back with no drums.
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  Speaker 4: But we like, uh have a story. A lot A
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: lot of this record was written with just like you know,
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: some a lot of it was written with some variation
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: of everyone that plays a stringed instrument in somebody's bedroom,
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: huddled around a laptop, and you know, just like spitting
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  Speaker 4: shirtless right for all shirtless naturally all pantsless, just get
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  Speaker 4: some skits really warm with all of us in one room,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So it would look a lot different on
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: the on the front end, but it was it was cool,
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  Speaker 4: and I was glad that we did it that way
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  Speaker 4: because it was we were able to take our time
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  Speaker 4: and like explore a lot more ideas and and you know,
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  Speaker 4: drop something and come back to it a month later,
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  Speaker 4: and you know.
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  Speaker 5: That sort of thing, you know, that is one evident
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  Speaker 5: right away when you start listening, the guitars feel much
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  Speaker 5: more front and center, and more importantly, I would say,
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: the rifts became so much more angular and mean sounding.
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  Speaker 5: I would say, you know, it provided the extra bite
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  Speaker 5: that I think Idle Threat needed and Blurred was great.
• 12:12
  Speaker 5: It was fantastic record. But this record, man, it really
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  Speaker 5: really does take it to the next level when it
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: comes to the song or the music writing process. I
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: would say, now, the drums, I can't speak for that
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  Speaker 5: because I think that they've taken a huge step back personally,
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: but but but guitars are, there's so much more forward.
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: It's it's great. I was just kidding JJ, by the way, No,
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: honestly though, JJ, I do think that that that the
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: skins were fantastic as well. Like I feel like you're
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: serving the song so well, like you you're a very
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: musical player, and that is also showcased here as well,
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  Speaker 5: Like you're not trying to go out there and be
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: Neil Pert or something like that. You are Yeah, for real,
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: I can't imagine loading loading that in, but like for real,
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  Speaker 5: like like you're you're playing to the song so well
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  Speaker 5: that that you're adding those dynamics that are absolutely necessary.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: You know What's that's a good point, Colin, because when
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  Speaker 2: I think of you JJ as a drummer, not from
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  Speaker 2: like a style standpoint, but in terms of like what
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: you're doing with idle threat and you're drumming, it feels
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  Speaker 2: very similar to I'm blinking on his name right now, but.
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: The tons for Jimmy No, for real, I get Lunsford
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  Speaker 5: vibes from right now.
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  Speaker 3: I think style wise, I hear that.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: I totally hear that style wise, But what I what
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  Speaker 2: in terms of like your point calling about serving the song?
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: What's his name? From Jimmy World? Really yeah, Zach Zach
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  Speaker 2: is like really good at like there's nothing flashy about
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  Speaker 2: what he does from a drumming standpoint, but obviously, like
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: if Zach wasn't in that band, it would sound entirely
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  Speaker 2: different because he's just so tight of a drummer and
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  Speaker 2: he's serving that each and every song. And I feel
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  Speaker 2: the same way about about you, JJ. And maybe that's
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: just a backne and compliment to say that you're not
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  Speaker 2: actually that good of a drummer, but uh, but but
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  Speaker 2: it is to say you're clearly good enough to uh
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  Speaker 2: to you know, hold it together. Uh, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: you're like, maybe you're like that that teammate on the
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  Speaker 2: on the team that's just like maybe not that good.
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  Speaker 2: But you just, you know, you're the glue holds it together.
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  Speaker 3: You're the you know, as.
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  Speaker 6: Long as I get my ass leapt at the end
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  Speaker 6: of the day, it's all good.
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: You know, you know what you you know what you are, JJ,
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  Speaker 5: You're the Israel to our Middle East.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: Con I was gonna say Ryan Gosling from Remember the Titans,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: you know, total total liability at cornerback, very good looking.
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he gives you the Swan kind of tieing all
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: this back in. It's really funny because like every time
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: that we've we've done interviews in the past like year
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: or so about this record, just the perspectives of how
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: we've written this. I absolutely hated how we wrote this
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: record because you know, the musician's heart that I have
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  Speaker 6: is that I just want to get in a room
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: with my bandmates and jam out a song, and we
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: just didn't do that this time. But I do think,
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: you know, there's pros and cons to that, but like
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: the strings especially were awesome coming out of that, and
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: so like it was super frustrating for me. But then
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: it just kind of worked out, you know, so I.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: Have I have I want to do next time. So yeah, yeah,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: I have one bone pit to pick with you guys.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: You got to stop calling it strings. You're not the
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: Philharmonic Orchestra.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Oh that's what you think. I play everything everything on
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: the new record. I play with a bow.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: There, idle rose.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: Oh you're on something else, all right.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: So so so here's here's something else that I want
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: to talk about because I think I think uh uh, lyrically,
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: I think this is a great record too. I know
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: neither of you guys have touched lyrics in your entire life,
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: but I do think that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Probably for the best. To be honest, Yes, it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: Feels like it feels like a darker, darker record in
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: a lot of ways.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Kind of Yeah, I mean the whole I mean thematically,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: you know, the whole deal is basically like in a nutshell,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: you know, everything's bad, but it's gonna be all right.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: You know. That's like if you've got to boil it
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: down to like one sentence, that's it. But we kind
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: of stay in the everything's bad part until at very
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: last song pretty much.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: And then the last song is basically you've got a
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: friend in Jesus, right pretty much?
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Pretty much.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I will say like with this record, I think
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: the guys kind of took a step forward with their
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: lyric writing.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I'll go ahead and sing Ernie's praises too. Like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: I think the best thing that Ernie does is his
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: lyrical work. And I know that he's you know, he
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: constantly challenges himself with that whenever we're putting a record together.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: But you know, I tell him all the time, it's
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: just like, dude, like this is kind of your bread
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: and butter, Like I want to see you push yourself
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: a little more, especially with like themes and like content
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: and all that. And I really think he delivered this time. Yeah,
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: And it's just I don't know, like it like my
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: perspective again, Like it's just every time there's been like
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: a little question over a lyric or something, it's like
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: I don't have a microphone, so I just completely stay
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: out of that. But when we were kind of revising
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: for this record, you know, just to keep it fair,
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: they were like, hey, here are the lyrics, Like if
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: there's any you know, discrepancies or whatever, let us know.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: And it's the first time ever, I was like, these
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: are good guys, like, let's do it, you know. Yeah,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: So I'm super proud of Ernie and Zeke for for
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: crafting what they did. And then just the you know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: quickly the the whole theme of the record is something
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: that probably for the first time, everybody unanimously was like, hey,
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: this is really cool. And it also like resonates with
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: us personally, so like as a band, we got to
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: put something out like together. So the whole concept of
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: you know, you'll forget the sun is that like, sometimes
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: there are days that are so dark you forget that
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: there is you know, light and warmth. But you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: if if you're a believer, and when when we pass
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: from this earth, you know, the presence of God will
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: be so bright and warm that you know, the sun
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: pales in comparison. And it's just, you know, sitting back
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: from all this and listening to the final mixes and
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: stuff of the record, it was just like, Okay, we
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: did something really cool and meaningful here, and I hope
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: that resonates with the people that listen to it. I'll
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: shut up now, No.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Hell yeah, that's that's that's right up the alley that
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I think distials it down into a nutshell super well.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I also gotta I want to send uh Ernie some
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: praise from the ether here, and I want to say,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: dude's been eating his weedies because that scream is extra beefy. Now,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: holy it was I would say. So, I was gonna say,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: was that was that Keach doing that? Or is that
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: or is that alive?
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: On this record? Keach was perfect for us.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a way of getting the best out
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: of you.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, album is going to be just absolutely obviously incredible.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I haven't heard the whole thing yet, but what
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I have heard is really good.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I But here's the deal, Like, I literally cannot
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: remember a time that I have listened to a record
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: and the harsh vocals literally made me like jump up
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: a little bit and be like, whoa, that's the next level?
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Like it. It honestly feels like something different than I've
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: never heard before. And I don't know if I can
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: quite put my finger on it, but it really does rip.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: It really does.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: It honestly sounds like sounds like that difference between like
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: they're only chasing safety to define a great line, like
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: you just can hear it's good call Spencer, just so
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you can hear that growth in Spencer and that from
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: one that album to the other.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what it feels like with.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Ernie and his screaming, especially in this album from from
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the previous one.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good call.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: Speak wearing a thread hat, dude, is.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: My new favorite hat. I'm not even joking, I'm not pandering.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I want to know where you guys got this, this,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: this brand of hacks.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I love my friend Nathan at Relentless merch he at
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: all this. So if you guys remember Salt Creek, Yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: we love Nathan from Salt Creek and Relentless.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: So he's right from from from from me.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: He's like in Nebraska, right home, all right?
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Or Lincoln, Lincoln, one of those Lincoln. Okay, that's right,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: that's right.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Well, well we were just talking a bit about Kea.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Let's hear just more about your guys' relationship with him,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Like how did that even start? Like how how did
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know who you had maybe had as a
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: producer in previous albums, but yeah, like how did that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: whole relationship start with with him?
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: So, I mean it kind of goes way back. He
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: he had actually he ran front of house at a show,
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: uh that we played when we had like first started
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: as a band, so like, you know, over a decade ago.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: He was like the front of house guy at a
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: show we played at rocket Town in Nashville, and then
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: he ended up master one of the singles that we
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: did again way back when. But when it came crunch
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: time for this record to kind of kind of get
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: you know, the pen put to the paper, we were
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: kind of spitballing some producers and stuff, and Ernie actually
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: was the one that was like, let's see if he's
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: still doing stuff, you know, And I think maybe Keach
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: had messaged us like a few months before or something
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: and was like, hey, I'm still in the area and
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: like trying to find bands to work with. But it
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: came together pretty quickly, Like that turnaround was like very fast.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: DJ do you remember even like because it got brought
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: up in our group chat and then it was like
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: less than a week later, it's like, yeah, we're going
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: with Keach.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: So yeah, hell yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: It had come up because you know, we'd tossed a
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: few names around because we were trying to like logistically
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: find find someone that makes sense not just stylistically, but
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: like you know, life wise. We're all a lot older
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: than we were when the earlier stuff came out, so
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: like there's kids and jobs and like I own a business,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: you know, and stuff like that, so we we had
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: to like kind of finesse around all of that. So
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: finding somebody that was local was we would have made
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: it work no matter what, but someone close was gonna
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: be like a huge perk. And so Keach has been
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: in Nashville for a good long while and he's worked
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: with some friends of ours shout out to the MOREU guys,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: which was the first thing that I was familiar with
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: him on, like as a producer. So we were had Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: we were aware, and I think, yeah, I think JJ
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I think he had like maybe shot Earnie a message
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: or something at some point in like the not too
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: too distant past and being like, hey, you know, you
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: guys are working on anything or something like that, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: so his name got tossed around and we were immediately
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: all like, yeah, let's let's just do that. And then
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: the label signed off and that was that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: He Oh yeah, dude, he he clearly has has done
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: y'all right, And uh, you know, I think I think
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: that he has like the kind of capability so like
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: be like the next like Aaron's sprinkle kind of if
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: you wanted to be. I under he's got a lot
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: of irons in the.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Fire though, But yeah, I underestimated his like his like
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: depth of musical knowledge, Like he can play everything, he
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: can sing, he can scream, he knows theory, you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: like so it was impressive and he I remember the
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: first time I'd actually met Keach. He just like it
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: was one of our last rehearsal slash writing days, like
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: live rehearsal days before we were going to like meet
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: up in the studio, and he just came to our
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: practice and you know, we had we had done pre
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: production on not all of the songs, but I don't know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: probably like sixty percent or something like that of the album,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: and we had sent everything to him, and you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: like he like actually took the time to listen, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: he like showed up with notes and he's like, I
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: think you should make this change here and here and here,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: and it just like came right in and made several
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: structural changes to the songs, which we wanted because we
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: had communicated to him on the front end that we
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: didn't just want somebody to hit record, like we wanted
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the like proverbial sixth member of the band right to have.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just it's so funny because even the like
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: small discourse we had over this, it was like once
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: we kind of got in the studio, it was like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: this is perfect for what we needed. So like, I'll
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: go ahead and plug Idle Threat's third record that's coming
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: out in twenty thirty seven. We're probably gonna do it
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: with Keech too. It's just gonna take us even longer
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: than the last record.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: You know, do you think that like him being such
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: like a humble, approachable, personable guy makes a huge difference
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: in this as well? Like I can't imagine like being
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: in a band and like having someone come in that
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: you know, just has like a wealth of knowledge that
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: is probably beyond like your years of experiential understanding, because
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I would get so nervous that I'm not doing something
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: properly or or well enough to his standards. But he
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: seems so approachable and personable that it do you think
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: that that plays a part in the success of the record?
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Sounding is good?
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: So I'll speak for myself again, So it's when when
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: I hate tracking drums, it's always like I get real
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: nervous because you.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Usually have to be good when you track drums.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, that's true. So but Keats was like perfect
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: to record with and like, you know, I think going
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: into it is just like hey, dude, like I'm just
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: some like dumb like punk guy, you know, like we're
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: gonna fumble through all this stuff.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: But it it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: There really weren't any hang ups or anything like that,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: except for like the very last thing that we recorded.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: But but even like getting through like the drum and
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: then moving on to the guitars and like all that
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: kind of stuff, like it almost felt seamless. And then
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: he was very attentive to like detail, but also was
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: very open to like just ideas and stuff and like
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: you know, even just like joking around with like and
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: the songs out so I can talk about it. But
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: like the song he's on in Tandem, like the very
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: end of that song, there's like the you know, breakdown
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: part or whatever, and jokingly we were trying to figure
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: out like how to end that song, and I was like,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: why don't we just bring the riff back but slower?
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: And he was like actually I have an idea like
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: try this, and that's how we got the end of
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: that song. So it's like it's just stuff like that,
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: like heach like he It was a perfect balance of
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: like him goofing around but like with us and then
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: also being like you know legit producer and like you
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: know pal and all that just thrown into one. But
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: it's definitely been my favorite recording process that we've ever had.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Nice dude, I love that. I love that well, so
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: I've I've also kind of wondered, sorry Mace, to cut
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: you off, but as the as the band is progressed,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: you guys have been around for a while now. You
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: don't have a lot to show for it, but you've
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: been around for a.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: Story. I've been on this podcast like twelve times, so.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: That's right that. Yeah, you've been on here more than
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: you guys have played live in the last ten years.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: I'm kind of curious, you know, the band dynamics are
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: always an interesting topic, I think, but I think with
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Idle Threat there especially interesting because you have people in
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: completely different like spiritual stages of their life, in the
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: stages and all that stuff. Right, I'm kind of curious,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: how how do you navigate that when you have like
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: very different personalities, you have very different interests, you have
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: very different ideals that you're all living up to or
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: trying to live up to. How do you and DJ?
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: How DJ? And and JJ? Sorry DJ, DJ JJ, This
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: is a a how do you guys? How do you guys? Uh?
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: How do you guys deal with you know, the the
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: constantly evolving dynamics of your band?
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: DJ will let you go first on that one.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: Uh No, I think everybody Uh, I mean, for for
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: lack of a better term, like stay in your lane,
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: you know, if that makes sense, because because uh, theologically, spiritually,
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: you know, there's you know where we're all believers, but
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: there's a lot you know, guy to guy that we.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Don't necessarily believe, you know, like like you know, Zeke
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: and Ernie have have their beliefs and you know, whereas
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: like JJ and then probably even more so me are
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: a lot more just deconstructed. Jokingly call myself like loosely Christian,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: you know, because like I am, but but it's it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: it's very deconstructed. You know. I kind of have like
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: my own interpretation of things, and like everybody's cool with it,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody. You know, we're all out for the
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: same end goal, and you know we're cheering on the
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: same team, you know, kind of, so it's it's kind
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: of everybody stays in your lane, and you know, there's
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: not any need to like press anybody about what they
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: believe or anything like that. It's you know, everybody's cool.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: JJ, Do you have something else to add?
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: I would say, that'll be in my book when I
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: write it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Wow, you're gonna write a book you know how to
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: write so you can read.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: It's actually okay. So I think I've made this joke
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: on this podcast before, but that's That's one of my
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: favorite things about being in this band is that a
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: lot of people we meet think I'm I'm stupid, and
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: I want to keep it that way. But it's it
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: is funny to me, like whenever people talk about like
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: school and stuff, because like, uh, this happened at Furnace.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: The last time we played it, someone brought up like, oh, yeah,
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: like didn't you like go back to like grad school
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: or something talking to Ernie and he was like, oh,
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: like I did, like coding or whatever. And I was like, yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: you got a coding certification blah, blah blah, you got
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: a new job. And then someone else asked about like
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: me and Zeke meeting at school and they were like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: did you meet at college? And Zeke and I went
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: to high school together. But anyway, so someone asked me
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: one time. They were like, yeah, did you ever go
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: to college? And I was like, yeah, I went to
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: college and they were like, oh, okay, cool, it's just
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: surprising to me, and I'm like, bitch, I want I
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: had a master's degree. Like anyway, so we'll let that go.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: I'm too scatter brain to get into all of that,
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: but whatever, but oh so yeah, I'll get along again.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: You are not You're not You're not beating those allegations
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: off smart? What were we talking about? Me?
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Smart? You dumb dude?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: This is crazy? This is the ad is HD right now.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: This is one of the first like podcasts with you
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: guys that I've done, like totally sober and and my
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: my brain fog right now is just like awful, Like I.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Don't even dude, you need to take a shot.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: I do have some scotch next to me. I might
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: have to, but oh man, anyway, but I don't know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: like our band dynamic. Getting back to what you asked,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: our band dynamic is very weird, but it works for us,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: and like I think, like friends and like fans and
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: all that, you can just see it, you know, like
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: you can smell it on us from a mile away.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: But like the thing is is like it doesn't matter
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: how different we are, like in our religious background or
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: like financial background or you know, I don't know, like
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: so much smarter than the other guys, but it never
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: really gets them, you know, I just you know, we're
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: we're definitely like at the end of the day, this
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: it's a brotherhood, you know, like Idle Threat is in
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: a weird way, it's like what I wanted Threat to
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: be is more of like a community thing. So it's
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: just definitely much more than music for for us, you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: like we want to be there for each other and
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: kind of do whatever we want to and put that
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: out into the world for people to connect with and
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: then connect with us too. So yeah, that's a short,
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: short version of that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: So I think that that's like a testament to what
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: needs to be learned in the music scene, but more
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: importantly in this specific case, in the Christian music scene,
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: there's so much push towards this fundamentalism, and it's gross
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: and in a purity test of all times, but that's
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: just not how life is. And to me, I find
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: it very jarring and annoying and it really turns me
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: off to wanting to be someone receptive to Christian or
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Christian influence music. So I commend you guys because you're
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: an example of what real Christianity should be, which is
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: just loving one another for who they are, understanding that
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: we all have shortcomings and downfalls, but understanding at the
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: same time that we can have this brotherhood like you're
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: talking about. So that's a big message. I think that
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: I want to get out.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: Here right and that's what really matters to us too.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Like I mean, truthfully, at the end of the day,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: it's like idle for it's such a small part of
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: my life, it's such a small part of DJ's life.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Like we just, you know, at the end of the day,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: we just we're just good guys and we just want
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: to be there for other people. And I mean, like
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: I don't know, Dj, you could be a piece of ship.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: But but you know, I can say that about the
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: other guys too, and like, you know, we you know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: like Ernie and I fight all the time, like, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: I talk to him every day and we end every
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: conversation we have with, hey, dude, love you, talk to
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: you later, you know, and like that's just how it's
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: going to be. And it's also nice knowing that my
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: bandmates are bad people that I have to worry about
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: getting canceled all the time, that I'm going to be
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: the one that's to bear that cross.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Say it from your chest.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Say it like you mean it, because we know you do.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Not to go back to being so sincere, JJ, but
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: you mentioned that you even though like you and Ernie
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: will fight, you always like end every conversation with and.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I love you.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I will say this about you, JJ, as much as
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you love shit talking. And actually I think you really
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I think shit talking is genuinely like one of those
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: like love languages, you know, like everybody says, you know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: everybody says like, oh, like sarcasm is my love language. Like, actually,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: it is probably very true for you at the end
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: of the day. One thing I've always loved about you, JJ,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: And actually I think you've maybe like influenced me actually
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: in my own life of sort of habits that I've
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: formed is I used to be really bad at telling,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: especially my other guy friends that I love them, and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you do that so like sort of unapologetically that I
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: like it started to rub off on me. And now,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: like you know, every time like Colin and I hang out,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: like I try to like beat him to the punch
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: of like and I love you, or even other guy
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: friends of mine, I try to beat him to that
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: punch of and.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I love you.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And it's largely because of you. You have influenced me
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: on that. And that's like one really cool thing just
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: about our relationship, but maybe for a broader point of
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I think that like exists or that sort of exudes
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: throughout all of vital throughout like I remember the first
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: time like meeting Ernie and Nathan and I guess I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: don't know if I I've met Zeke as much, but
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: or even like you DJ, like there is this like
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: kind of just warmth of love that each one of
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you exude, and so it's just really cool that, you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: even in the midst of the differences that you all have,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: there's this love that exudes throughout the band, which I
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: just think is really cool.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's it's it's it's a focal point, like
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna put myself on the pedestal and take
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: like some credit for that because that's like that's that
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: is like normalized telling your male friends that you love them,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: and that is like a ten that I like live
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: life by and like personal anecdote, Like I kind of
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: like figured that out early. Like my my grandfather, my
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: dad's dad was a hero of mine, but he grew
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: up tough man, you know, child of the Great Depression.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: You know, he's a veteran and you know all that stuff,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: and you know, we had a great relationship. He's very
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: like loving, nurturing and grandfather to me. But he didn't
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: grow up in a society where you say that to
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: other men, right, And so as as he got older
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: and I was getting older, and I could see that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: he was getting older, you know, I made it a point.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: And I remember the first time, like I was leaving
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: my grandparents' house and I just stood in their doorway,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: you know, leaving stood in the door and said, all right, Papa,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: love you. And I just stood there until he said it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: It was like it was a really uncomfortable like twenty
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: seconds and then he's like love you too, and then
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: afterwards we said it every time, and so like my
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: best friend, I tell him I love him every time
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: we talk on the phone, and like all the guys
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: in the band and like every even if we're going
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: to argue when we part ways, it's love you by
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: you know, And like, I don't know that's I like that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I think it just like you know, it's like put
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: out the energy, like put it you know. That's what
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I want to see in the world, so that you
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: try to put it up.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think that is a masculine thing
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: There's nothing more masculine insecurity, right right.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: You tell your bros you love them, you are kidnaped.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I love like that meme where like have you've seen
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that meme where it's like, I guess it could be
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: kind of like any bottle of alcohol, but like sometimes
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: it's like the wine or whatever, and it's like the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: first like little part of the wine is like you know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: like saying some.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Fun little story or whatever.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: But then like the larger bottle like that, then there's
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: like the other larger bottle of wine and it's like
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: telling you bros you love them, And I'm like that's
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: that's me. Like especially, you get enough alcohol and me
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and I become like a I love you bro fest.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: It's just like it. That's that's how I become.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Or or you pass out right before normal Jean plays
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: or that god the aftermath, and I have to go
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: run around the entire festival and try to find you.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to test your love for me. I
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: didn't know if you actually cared about me or not,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: so I just want to You.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Know, you gotta gotta th out those tests every now
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and then.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: I don't believe in tests of love. I just believe
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: in showing it all the time.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Well, you passed that test at least, so you're lucky.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: All right, let's uh, let's stop talking about the new album.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Let's dive into DJ's top five most influential albums. You're
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: ready for this, DJ, and then JJ, we've got your
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: question for you.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: So oh boy?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so DJ? You ready more or less?
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Let's hear it. All right, let's hear that first one.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, number one, I'm gonna say no particular order here,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: that's okay. Number one is gonna be toxicity system of
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: a down.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've mentioned System of Down. I've been listening
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: to that album on repeat over the last month or two.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it just like just hit
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: me recently, and I just have to keep listening to
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: it whenever I'm driving.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: I can. I can still play that album cover to
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: cover on guitar.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Hell, real, real question here. I know where I and
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: on it, but I want to hear where you three
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: guys are out on it. Is System of a Down
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: new metal?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think they're alternative metal, like I would.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I would put them like in alternative metal, in the
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: same way that like Blindside or like Deftnes is alternative
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: metal metal, but like maybe not necessarily new metal.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, they always get lumped with new metal and DJ
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: and and JJ. You're wrong. It is not new metal.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Like would you call Chevelle new metal. I don't think
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: you would call Chevelle new metal, right, I.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Guess you could call them like alternative you know, yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's alternative metal. Yeah. I mean I'm not
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: a big like hard and fast genre guy, you know, Like, yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: it's all very blurry to me, so so System of
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: a Down yeah, I would. I would say at a minimum,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: they definitely have elements of new.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Metal, all right, all right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: But yeah that album I was the right age at the.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Right obviously legendary album.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: It's it's just even from a sound I mean, and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: obviously Reuben is just you know, incredible. But yeah, it
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: sounds so heavy still today and it's ye, what twenty
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: five years old now? I think it came out and
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: it's turning twenty five this year.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: It came out one, I think. Yeah, yeah, so twenty
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: five they released I think the story was they released
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Uh Chop Suey and you know it's got that Lerik
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: in it when Angels Deserved to Die or whatever. Yeah,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: and like nine to eleven was like right after that exactly.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: It was like kind of like a pr nightmare.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Wait did that album come out then, like right as
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Uh Satellite did? Because Satellite came out, Yeah, it became
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: another advance up.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, Nathan would be thrilled. Nathan loves Pod?
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: I would have did we Love We Love Pod?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Did that?
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Did that come out the same exact like week or
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: maybe I mean at least within weeks from each other?
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Then that's crazy.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: It was very close.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Wow, wow, I can't type. Uh Satellite came out on
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: nine to eleven.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what what what day did what day
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: did the self title come out for System of Down
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: self titled or Sorry Toxicity?
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: I bet it was August.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Let's see September fourth, so a week before.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: M those what like two banger alternative metal albums back
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: to back, that's crazy.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were blessed then.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Chase, we really went down with the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: trade centers after.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: A System of a Down still put out some good
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: music after that, so so it didn't take the wind
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: out of their sales completely.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, all right, h Next one.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: One wing the Chariot, which, yeah, the Chariot is they
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: got better with every album there, so yeah, the Chariot
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: is my favorite band period. System of a Down is
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: like number two, like honorable mention. Sure, and yeah the
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Cherry got better with every album. And if they were
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: still putting on albums, they'd still just be getting better
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: with every album. Yeah, sure, you know, things just to
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: send forever, that's how that works.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Colin.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I know, I know long Live is your favorite Chariot album,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: but do you agree with the take here that they
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: got better with each album, meaning that actually one Wing
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: is better than Long Live. Would you agree with that?
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I would say better, but I
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: would say different, Uh, like they morphed. I feel like
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: when I think of one Wing, I think of like
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: a Schmorgan sport, like a buffet. When I think of
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Long Live meal. When I think of Wars, I think
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: of like the best night out food. Right, I don't
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: know why what I think of Yeah, olive garden. Yeah,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: necessarily an olive garden. I was thinking like a really
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: really good like taco bell, like after like.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: What is that?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: What does that mean? For everything? Album?
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Everything would be like like like like no, no, no, no.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Everything everything is like it is like when you go
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: out and or sorry, like when you go to Grandma's
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: and she makes that one meal that she always made
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: for you as a kid, and then and then and
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: then fiance is is like the best meals that your
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: mom made you.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, I would flip that around.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: Well, that's because Sheila can't cook. I'm sorry. I love Sheila. Sheila,
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: if you're listening, you're not. But if you are, I
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: love you. You're just not a very good cook.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I think. I mean I've told her that to her
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: face many times.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: I have you have literally invited me. I remember back
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: in high school you invited me over for dinner once
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: and I was like, sure, I'll come over for dinner,
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: and then that was the last time you ever ever
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: accepted that invite. Good stuff, all right, next album.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Out of Burning Fire, Blindside, ah Man, Goat Goa Died,
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: It's I remember that album. My sister actually introduced me
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: to that album, and I don't remember how old I was.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: I just looked at I just looked it up and
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: it came up and uh no, but she she introduced
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: me to that album, and I actually still have her
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: hard copy of like the Their that she gave me. Wow.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: And then of course they re release it at Furnace
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Fest on Final So when I bought that, Yeah, but
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: that that album was just I don't know. That was
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: like in my rebellious years where I thought everything had
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: to be super heavy and you know, you turn your weight,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: your nose up at anything that doesn't kind of meet
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: that standard. And then that album came out, or at
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: least I heard it for the first time, and I
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: was like, okay, like you can like back off the
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: throttle a little bit and still be.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: It somehow, scratches every itch, right, Yeah, dude, oh my god.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I think it's their most complete album.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: It's cover to cover. That means there's just nothing but bangers.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's their most complete album, but I
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: do think it's it's obviously up there in the in
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: the in the top one. I think their most complete
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: album is Great Depression.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Personally, I think that's their most like, uh, it's actually
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I think that's my favorite album of theirs. But I
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: do think About a Burning Fire is their most complete,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like if I and I mean complete as in, like, Okay,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: let's say there's somebody who has never heard Blindside before
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and you were like, Okay, this is like the album
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to introduce you to the Blindside sound. I think that's
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: the best introductory kind of album, meaning to me, it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: like the most complete of their sound.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I would agree. Well, now
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Silence probably is more of that.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe I think that Silence has like a lot of
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: their heavier stuff, which is great, But.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: What about A Burning Fire has way heavier songs.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that literally.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: DJJ was just saying that, like, not everything had to
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: be heavy, and that's why, Okay.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Most of that album is pretty just like rock.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but then you also have like Eye of the Storm.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: In the time.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few moments. Yeah, that's why I'm saying
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: it's it's complete.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is complete. It's a good that's a good descriptor.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, how about the most eclectic?
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, great, wonderful love it?
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, one one other side Pension. I've always liked that
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: that The blind Side always has like some like weird
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: like Swedish like house trance kind of.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: It.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Man, I'm so cool with it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: That's that's true to them, you know.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like slightly sophomoric sounding, but I I
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: really appreciate it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: It's it's the same way I feel about like like
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: British bands that don't mask their accent, like oh yeah,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Black Party is the best at that.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Like those early those early Arctic Monkeys albums.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Or like they're not British, but like Birds in Row
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: is one of one of my favorite's.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Current Yeah, you can really hear his French accent.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love it. It's so endearing and like
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: in there his so Bart's English has gotten a lot
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: better if you follow that band, but yeah, you know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: I met them early on. I think I saw them
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: for the first time on the Chariots Farewell tour.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: That's when Mason and I first saw them.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh really, yeah, I talked to them. I talked
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: to him then, and then Idol's actually played with them
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: a couple of times, so I've gotten to consist with
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: him a couple times through the years, and like his
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: English has noticeably improved. But in their early songs and
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: like their early stuff, if you go back to like
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: You Me and the Violence, it's like even the lyrics
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: are in like semi broken English, and yeah, I love that,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Like it's it's just such an endearing thing.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: It's more it's more authentic. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: All right, next record.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: This one you might not know Mongrel. The number twelve
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: looks like you.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, so I was a band.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: This might be the first the number twelve looks like
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: you that we've ever gotten.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: I think that album and the one right after it,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Worse Than Alone, are probably both still in like my
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: top twenty all time list. I was really into like
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: mathcore back in the day, like high school era me.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: I was super into that and that band, like they
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: kind of did it all. You know. They had the
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: sing songy stuff, they had the heavy stuff. They had
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: the heavy but like really imperfect, arguably bad vocals, but
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: like you know, time signatures. Who cares. It's like, you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: we're gonna go from like spazzy blast beats to like
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: a just straight up jazz riff, you know, and it's
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: like I love that, But I always thought they did
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: it tastefully, and I always thought the songwriting was really good,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: and they just they were doing stuff nobody else was doing.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: All right, Another quick side question, tangent kind of thing.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Do you think that, uh, what's cooler? Mathcore or math rock?
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Cooler? It? Yeah, both of those are styles that are
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: so easy to do badly. Yes, there's in both of
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: those boxes. There's a lot of really awful bands.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of awful.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Bands, probably probably mostly awful bands. Yeah, I would. I mean,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: for for me personally, I never have really gotten into
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: math rock as much unless you consider like you know,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: the Mars Volta and stuff like that, and then yeah,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I guess like there's bands like a lot like Birds
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: as a band I love a lot, Like I guess
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: they're kind of arguably they're mathy. Yeah, you know so,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: I guess I kind of tiptoe into that art historically,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: and the next album on my list will attest to
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: this math core math.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have to agree. I feel like Instagram
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: has ruined math rock because like every single guitarist who's
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: like halfways good can pull out some mathrock thing that
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: just yeah makes it cheap.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: On that note side, tangent, how do you feel about
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: on Jene.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: A huge fan?
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I like it. I don't. I want to hate it
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: so bad, but I like it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: So I Actually JJ and Mason both can attest to this.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: I I was calling out their praises a long time ago.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I love like if if there's I'm a
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: bit guy, I love a bit and there's there's a
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: few things that I respect more than commitment to the bit.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Like even even the guitar that he plays, like, yeah,
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: that thing had to be catastrophically.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Expensive, unless I think he did it himself.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, unless he's a luthier, because like,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: not only is it a double.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: Neck, it's wait, what is it called a luthierier?
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a guitar builder.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: I have never heard that term. That's I love learning
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: new vocab. That's so good.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: I'm glad I can. I'm glad I could enlighten.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: I think. I think DJ is the smartest person in
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: the band.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: I've got a good vocabulary. I'm really good to fix them.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: I'm the fixer. I fix things when they break.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: It, DJ, since you're also a chariot fan.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Uh, what's really cool is not only did like Colin
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: like learn about a Jane way back a while ago,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: nearly a year ago. They had a band together. I
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: forget the name of that band, but they had They've
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: been playing together for years now, both of those guys,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: but they were in a band before that. They would
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: scream in French, obviously, but it literally sounds like like
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: sixty eight, honestly, Like it's I need to hear this.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: It's like French sixty eight. It's real, really.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Fine, give me give me a second. I can't remember
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: the name of it too.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I need I need to hear that.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: That's pretty sick, all right, while we wait for Colin.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Uh number five?
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Uh Danza two the Electric Boogloo Yes Dance Extravaganza. They
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: were hometown heroes they were ye from Murphysboro, which is
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: where I live now, and so I was in like
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: middle school. I have two older sisters and you know,
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: so their friends were always around and stuff. So I
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: learned a lot about heavy music from their friends that
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: were all like five to eight years older than me.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Like that's how I discovered Norman Gy. And so one
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: of their friends had introduced me to Danza, and you know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: like they were local and I was able to like
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: go see them. And you know, when you're like fourteen,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: you have this perception that like just because someone's on stage,
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: they're a big deal and they're famous. So like that's
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: how I felt about Danza at that time. And you know,
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: they're just like face melting riffs and stuff like that,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: and just totally totally taken them by it. And then
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: they released Danza two, which was just a much more
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: like musical, like complete and produced album than Danza one. Uh,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: and I just fell in love with it.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Have you seen that clip of Tony them on Tony
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Danza Show. Yeah, that's a real or like or he's
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: like listening to to a bit of them.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny, it's so good.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: All Right, this is Angie de Platyne before they were
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: before they were Angie and the Platyn they were Poe.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: I think that's how you'd say that.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can, I guess something like, yeah,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: do you want to hear it quick?
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, will you get in trouble for playing it? Natally?
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: You had me at Base Chords?
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Does it kind of sound like sixty eight to some Yeah, it's.
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: It's like a little a little bit more the Chariot,
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: Like yeah, it's like slightly like slightly slightly more the
• 55:54
  Speaker 9: Chariot than sixty eight, But yeah, it still has like
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: stripped down feel.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: It's really good.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: It's really check that out. I'm gonna yeah, it's so good.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: It's fantastic.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Dude, that's a great list.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's like one of my favorite lists that
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: anyone's ever mentioned. So obviously, actually you got the Chariot
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: in there, I'm gouldn't be a fan, but still.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised we haven't gotten one wing more often.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: The production on that album, that's that's when that's when
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: the Chariot finally got the production they deserved. And I
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: know they were like kind of trying to do the
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: low f I thing all the time. So, like you know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: like the mix on Long Live is great and it
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: fits the style and I think it's probably what they
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: were aiming for. But like one wing just hits man.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, So I agree.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, great list, JJ. Now you've got a
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: separate list. Since you've been on the podcast so many times,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: it's like hard to imagine or try to it's hard
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to create a sort of a creative list that will
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: be fun.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: But we've got is it? Three bands? We should do?
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Three bands?
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: Three? Three? Three?
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Three bands that make you want to drink and not
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: only did they make you want to drink, but a
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: certain kind of alcohol. Right, So you have to name
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: three bands that make you want to drink and what
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: alcohol you want to drink to that band? So take
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: it wherever you want.
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: All right, Uh, I'm only gonna do fun drinking. Good
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: we'll start. We'll start with that. I'm gonna say, get
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: me a nice margarita, a nice frozen margarita, and I
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: want to listen to Kesha or Carla re Jefson of course. Yeah,
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: so if you can, you could throw on some emotion
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: me get like one of them Lime batties with like
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: a little like umbrella in it. That's a good time.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: I'm singing every word any song you put on.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: On a Monday margarita deal, right.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: What what what are you smoking up that night? Oh dude?
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: That that that day?
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: If we're sipping a mark, you gotta be making some
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: brisket taco or like maybe some pulled pork.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: But then then okay, number two, just any kind of
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: cheap beer. So like a pbr Co banquet bush Apple
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: is back. Grab one of those, and then you gotta
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: you gotta grill something like a hot dog or some
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: steaks and listen to every time I die or Norman Jean.
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: That's yes, sir, That's like almost every weekend for me.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: Like you know, just something just something easy, you know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: like crack open a sixer, put on a god the
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: aftermath you're having a gain.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: Put that dog in you, right, put that.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Dog in me?
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: That? Uh?
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: And then.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: Actually, okay, so are they Hebrew Nationals, Come on JJ,
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: do it once? Those do it once for the.
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: Those are the best talk dogs.
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: They are because if it ain't if it ain't blessed
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: by a Rabbi, I want it.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: Nathan's like all beef or whatever. Those are great. Those
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: are the ballpark dogs. Those are awesome. But dude, those Supernationals,
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: those are getting grilled to some Norman Jean. And then
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: I think my last one maybe I don't know, probably
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: just like a nice bourbon, And then some Elvis.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have guessed he was an Elvis guy. What's so?
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: What kind of Elvis tunes do you like? Do you
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: like fat Elvis years or do you like young Elvis?
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: Are you serious?
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Have we never I did not know, We've never talked
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: to Elvis. I don't know, dude.
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: I have an Elvis tattoo.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: What the hell? I didn't know this.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: There's an entire shrine over in my corner. It's most
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: of it's in boxes. But like I have Elvis like
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: crap everywhere, Like I'm a massive Elvis man.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: Dude, I did. I don't know how I didn't know
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: this about you. You must like keep this like inside,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: But like.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't know it either.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: So you're not a very good friend at sharing other
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: things about every day.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: I know. Here's here's the deal, JJ, I don't know
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: if you know this about me, but Elvis was my
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: gateway drug into good.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: Music as it should be.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: So I literally went from listening to Aaron Carter in
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: Sync Battery Book, Shania Twain okay, and then I heard
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Elvis and I was like what is this? And Elvis
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: set me on a track immediately into Norma Jean somehow,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know how they go that's is that? Is
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: that really the case?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, like it's crazy because like when I was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: a kid. I'm pretty sure I've talked about this before
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: in like the first episode I was in with you
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: guys or something, But like when I was a kid,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: like my dad really influenced you know, most people's music
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: and tastes or whatever. But like my favorite artist when
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: I was younger were literally like Elvis Presley and then
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: like your cliche like you know, Kiss and Rush and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: Metallita and stuff. But then since my dad is a preacher,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: you know, we went to all these like conventions and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: stuff like that, and I just kind of fell into
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: like the whole christ core thing. So like my favorite
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: bands were like Augustburn's, Red, Norma Jean, as like Dying,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: you know, insert all of our favorite bands here. But
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: literally that that was the pipeline for me. It was
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: like Elvis Presley and then you blink and then you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: know Norma Jean and the Devil's Prada and all those bands.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: So twins, dude, we're about to have like such a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: long text conversation about Dubis because I can talk.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: I could talk Elvis for days.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: Man, I love me some Elvis, drink bourbon and together.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: I'm down. Let's do it.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: Let's do it.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: DJ. What Uh? What was your what? What music did
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: your dad influence you to listen to?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: Uh? He's big into like grunge, specifically acoustic, so like
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: like specific.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: Jarflies and stuff.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well and specifically uh like the MTV Unplugged
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: that special them and and Nirvana's MTV Unplugged And he
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: had a VHS of both of those and he would
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: sit back in his room and just you know, learn
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: the songs play long on guitar and stuff. So being
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: the obnoxious kid wanted to do what dad did. Yeah,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: and you know, and then he he dabbled in you know,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: some like heavier stuff like he's a big motorhead guy.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: Uh, dude, your dad sounds motorhead Sabbath Montrose, Uh, who Metallica?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: You know, stuff like what god smack, you know, stuff
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: like that. He definitely dabbled into, like it's like heavier
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: radio rock, but yeah, yeah, he was. He was pretty
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: down with the heavy stuff of his day.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: So I've always been interested in this because I feel
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: like I've had a completely different experience. So Mason's dad
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: listened to like a lot of the hair metal and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: stuff like that, and that did not rub off on
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: Mason really much at all from what I can tell.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: But my dad, like one of the best singers I've
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: ever heard, never listened to music. Like if we did
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: listen to music, we maybe would listen to like the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: Gaither Brothers or something like that, and that was it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Is it weird that, like, is it weird to come
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: from like a basically non music listening household.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: A music well yeah, And it's hilarious because like, so
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: much of your family so good at singing.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: I every single one of them. There's not there's not
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: a bad singer in our family at all.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: That's so wild. Maybe it's just because you weren't like
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: restricted from it, right, like this is no, Well your
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: mom wouldn't, like you think you're a wizard.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, so that did happen that did happen. Like
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: I remember one time my mom drove my car because
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: she had crashed hers because she was drunk, which is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: hilarious to me. And she h she took my CD out.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: The CD that was in there was impending doom and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: she and she burned it in the fireplace in front
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: of me. Yeah, she literally started a wood fire in
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: our fireplace, which she has never done ever once and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: burned it right there in front of me.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: That's how much she hates christ Core.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was more than Conquerors.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: And Serpent Servant.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: The Colin grew up in the kind of family that
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: burnt his Christian CDs.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: I do. I do have like a moment where I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: remember my mom burnt all my sisters hip hop CDs.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: Uh And the only one that I was actually upset
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: about was the Chiney record because I loved Chingy.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: That was the dude that did right there right like.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: The and uh uh. He had the Holiday Inn song too.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: So yeah, did you all ever have to like like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: explain yourselves and like when you got into there's a.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: So my my family computer because we were good Christians
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: was in like literally like in the living room slash
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: like dining room area. Like it wasn't like in a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: its own it was.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: It was in the middle of the open concept.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: It was just like in the middle of everywhere. And
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: so anyway, I would, you know, always have my like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: headphones on and I'd just be jaming out. And I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: remember at one point, this is like right when I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: discovered under Oath, because I would come home from school
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: and I would watch it was called Steel Roots, and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: they would have a top ten music video countdown and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: they always always you know, they had Norman Gene and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: under Oath and all these like alternative bands, and so anyway,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: they they had like under Oath, and I just was like,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if I like this
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: screaming thing, but there's something cool about this. And so
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: I would start listening on like MySpace or preber volume
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: uh to under Oath, and I remember at one point
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: it was like had never been like after we had
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: eaten dinner, like we'd put you know, food away and
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: and you know, tore down the like dining room area
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And anyway, I remember I was like listening
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: to under Oath on my headset, and it was like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: those shitty like little over the.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Ear headphones that you would wear and anyway, I.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: Must stole from computer class.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the one, yeah, exactly, the ones that you
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: would steal from computer class.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: And I must have been listening to it loud.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Enough that my mom could kind of overhear that I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: was listening to this like screaming music, and she like
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: asked me. She was like, Mason, what are you listening to?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: And I knew immediately I was gonna have to like
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: justify this to them. So I immediately went into like, Mom,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I promised, there a Christian band, Like you can look
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: up the lyrics, like I like, I scrambled, like I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: was backpeddling so much just to like justify to her
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: that they were Christian, man, and she was like, all right,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: as long as they're Christian, it's okay.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: I swear to God. They would stage at Life Like yeah.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: I did the same thing with my mom with ZAO
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: because I.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: Was like, oh, yeah, you know, she'd say it was
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: a hard cell. Though that's a very hard sell.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Because they kind of did come out eventually, like very
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: early on to say that they weren't a Christian band.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they sound like demons.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Dan does sound like a demon.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah I had. I had a burned copy of The
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Funeral of God, like my mom would like like suffer
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: through me listening to it in the car when she
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: was like take me to school. But then I realized,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: like I got I got wise to it because I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: was able to sell her all that, but like, yeah,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: I'm they're a Christian band, And you know, I was,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sure, like Norma Jean, but yeah, Mom, they're a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Christian band. And then I just it just clicked that
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: she couldn't understand what any of them are saying anyway,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: So I just stopped telling her band names. So I'm
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: listening to like the Black Dolly and Murder and be like, yeah,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: I'm they're a Christian.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Band, Mom, I promise I Hate God is a Christian baby.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: Then and then you like show them like Lamb of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: God or something like that, you're like obviously a Christian.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: I mean it's literally their name is basically Jesus, like
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: you can coming around.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: Love it.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks guys so much for chatting about the new album.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: I'm super stoked for it. It's definitely going to be
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: a highlight album of the year for us. I would
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: imagine when we do our end of the year list,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: it will be one of the one of the albums
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: that we'll be talking about. So I'm super stoked about it. Uh,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: and DJ, it's always great to have you on. We
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: need to have you on again sometime soon.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: All right. I can't believe this is the first time. Yeah,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: I always you know.
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  Speaker 2: What we are. We I'm glad that we popped your
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: black sheep cherry though.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys need to stage dive again too.
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  Speaker 4: You need to find a to need to redeem myself. Man,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: that was the stutter step in my dreams.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I was just worried. I was just so desperately worried
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: you were going to slip on that water at the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: front of the stage and then you were going to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: crack your head open and die that.
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  Speaker 2: I totally forgot the dumb thing about that whole thing,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Like the fact that we did that was it like
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: did rain, So it was like wet on the stage
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: and on that amp.
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  Speaker 3: I cannot believe we were stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Enough to do that.
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  Speaker 4: I cleared it, That's all that matters. I didn't vault off.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't vault off the subs.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: I cleared it and you've cleared all charges too, so
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: that's great.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's right, they were asking for it.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: You did, definitely, you did.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Did you see what they were wearing?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, you did definitely. Give that girl in the front
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: row cte.
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  Speaker 4: Forever I can involt into her because that midway through
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  Speaker 4: the air.
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  Speaker 5: Your knee went into her face.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well listen, man, it was either her face or
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: my chins, you know, so I had to make a
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: business decision.
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  Speaker 6: I still think like whenever that video circulates on the internet,
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  Speaker 6: if you pay really close attention to uh Ryan Luther's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: face when he turns and saw that you guys were jumping,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: he is mortified. And that's I've seen normal g in
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: a million times and it's still one of the highlights
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: of any show they've ever played that I've got to watch.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure it's still pinned on their on their Instagram.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: Really better be The funniest part that you can't see
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: in the video is you know I, Well, I say
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: I landed. I didn't land I just crashed to the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: earth because nobody caught me. I get up and there's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: some dude trying to get after me. Before I can
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: even get off the ground.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Dude. He went after me too. He was, I know
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: exactly what you're talking about.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they initially caught me and then like
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: five seconds later they dropped me. And then this guy
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: came up and he was pissy, and I'm like, we're
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: at a Norma Jean show. And also that was sick
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: as fuck dude.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: You but my my favorite thing that you told me
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: about this DJ was you were like, it's okay, I'm
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: in a band and then you ran away. Was like,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: it's okay, I'm a podcaster.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: He was like before before I even said that. It's like,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: I won't say he shoved me, but he did put
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: hands on me and then I stood up because I
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: was huge crowd.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: He was just praying for you.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: He was about five foot six, so you know, I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: stood up and he's looking at my nipples. I was
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: just like, I'm in a band and back.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: What a moment, epic moment. All right, guys, Well, thank
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: you so much for hanging out and.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: Can't wait till next time.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 6: I love you, guys, I love you.
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  Speaker 5: I did I video