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Jess Girod Tells All · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with I our Radio. It's time for the almost Famous podcast.
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Speaker 1: Yes we're back doubling up. This week got my wonderful
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Speaker 1: co host Ashley Iken Eddie and another co host for
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Speaker 1: two episodes. Ashley, how pumped are you to have Jessica
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Speaker 1: Gerard on the show right now breaking this all down
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Speaker 1: with us? I am so excited to have you here,
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Speaker 1: jess because one you're at Woman till All so you
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Speaker 1: can give us all the inside dudes. And two you
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Speaker 1: know you're bringing back body glitter. And three you were
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Speaker 1: like the huter row pit character of the show a
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Speaker 1: couple weeks ago when you're like, I am not going
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Speaker 1: to beg for you. Yes, thanks, guys, I'm so excited
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Speaker 1: to be here. Thank you for having me. Are you
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Speaker 1: nervous that Ashley and I are just going to absolutely
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Speaker 1: be so tough and so mean and so just grueling
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Speaker 1: out on the show hard. I went through a whole
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Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor, so I think I can take
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Speaker 1: you guys too, So we're big fans of you. In fact,
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Speaker 1: when we found out that you're going to be on
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Speaker 1: the show with us, we're very excited and we asked
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Speaker 1: to have you help us break down the Women Tell
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Speaker 1: All and then you're gonna come back for a separate
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Speaker 1: show and kind of give us an in depth about
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Speaker 1: you in your life. And so right now we're going
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Speaker 1: to jump right into the Woman Tall All. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: skip all the backstory of who you are and what
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Speaker 1: you're about, and we're gonna say that for a special time. So, Jess,
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Speaker 1: you were at The Woman Tall All to start this out,
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Speaker 1: to give our listeners a little perspective, tell us what
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Speaker 1: the Women Tall is like, like the leading up to it,
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Speaker 1: not being on the show, not being in the seats
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Speaker 1: that obviously, your butt is gonna get so sweaty because
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Speaker 1: they're plastic and there's light shining on you and there's
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Speaker 1: no breathable room. Uncomfortable, very uncomfortable. Yes, your butt bone
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Speaker 1: is truly aching. After those four times. I remember, I
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Speaker 1: remember I had when I was the bachelor. I would yeah,
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Speaker 1: when I was announced or something as the bachelor, I
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Speaker 1: had to get up from my seat and step up
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Speaker 1: onto stage. And I remember being so nervous because I
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Speaker 1: could tell that, like where I was sitting was just
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Speaker 1: covered in sweat, and I was thinking I was going
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Speaker 1: to be the guy to walk up on stage with
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Speaker 1: a different colored you know, back backspot than my sue. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so Jess walk us through like the trailer and the
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Speaker 1: lead up and everything going on. Yeah. So it was
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Speaker 1: a really rainy day that day, and I remember I
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Speaker 1: kept repeating it. I was like, is this foreshadowing something
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Speaker 1: like is this going to be a very chaotic day?
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Speaker 1: It was plouring rand I think that there was like
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Speaker 1: a really bad store in California or something, but that weekend.
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Speaker 1: But it was so surreal. I've never been in like
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Speaker 1: a fitting room or like I don't know what's kind
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Speaker 1: of technically calling room, Yeah, dressing room. Yeah, I've never
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Speaker 1: been in a dressing room before like that. I've never
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Speaker 1: you know, had my makeup touched up and you know,
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Speaker 1: gone all pampered. So it was definitely like I was
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Speaker 1: getting really nervous and I was like, oh gosh, this
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Speaker 1: is like the real deal. And like going into the
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Speaker 1: Warner Brothers studio, I was like, I've never been there before.
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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. I just was cool.
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Speaker 1: I was like, what's been filmed here? Like I want
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Speaker 1: to go explore all of these buildings. But and it
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Speaker 1: was really cool seeing everyone, and everyone was excited and nervous.
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Speaker 1: We were all kind of on the same page, and
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Speaker 1: we knew we were gonna see Zach and at that
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Speaker 1: point I knew I was gonna get a hot seat,
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Speaker 1: so I was just I was like freaking out. It
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Speaker 1: was just so many nerves and all in one and
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Speaker 1: in a very rainy day, so I was like, oh gosh,
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Speaker 1: I don't want my hair to get messed up. Well,
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Speaker 1: you didn't have much to worry about when it came
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Speaker 1: to talking with the girls, so you probably really got
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Speaker 1: to sit back and just listen for a couple of
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Speaker 1: hours before Zack on stage. You really you had no
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Speaker 1: drama with the girls. You barely on air. You didn't
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Speaker 1: really involve yourself except for with the little drama between
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Speaker 1: Brooklyn and Kat. You seem to depend cattle bit in
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Speaker 1: that moment. Yeah. Did that feel good that you got
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Speaker 1: to not have to involve yourself in girl drama? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So I feel like in general, I don't really involve
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Speaker 1: myself with drama. Like in the real world too as well.
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Speaker 1: I will always defend myself if I feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: in a position where I need to or someone else
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Speaker 1: at the time, you know, with Brooklyn and Kat, I
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Speaker 1: felt like that was between them and it wasn't really
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Speaker 1: my place to get involved. But there were points where
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Speaker 1: I defended her because Kat is a good person and
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Speaker 1: she meant well, and you know, she was owning up
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Speaker 1: to her mistakes and I felt like it was being
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Speaker 1: dragged out. But you know, I don't think that it's
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Speaker 1: my position to voice an opinion that I'm not in
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Speaker 1: something that I'm not involved in. So it was nice
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Speaker 1: to sit back and not be involved when everyone was
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Speaker 1: like screaming at each other. I think there was like
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Speaker 1: some clips in my face where I'm like, I'm just like,
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Speaker 1: oh gosh, like everyone in my ear. Yeah. Ashley and
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Speaker 1: I always say this because one of the questions you'll
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Speaker 1: get asked the most now for the next I don't
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Speaker 1: I mean, how many who knows how long of your
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Speaker 1: life will be? Is it real? Like is the show real?
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Speaker 1: And what Ashley and I always say is it is
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Speaker 1: very real. Like I never felt like I was told
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Speaker 1: or scripted or given a list of things what to do.
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Speaker 1: And there's a very few moments where you're watching things
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Speaker 1: happen in the mansion or on the road or at
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Speaker 1: a tell all and you're like, I cannot believe I'm
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Speaker 1: getting a front row seat at this, because nobody that
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Speaker 1: ever watches this will ever believe it. Yeah. No, definitely.
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Speaker 1: When I was sitting there and when everyone was kind
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Speaker 1: of like voicing their opinions rightfully, so I was like, Wow,
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Speaker 1: this is just as intense as it is on TV
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Speaker 1: as it's in person. It was crazy. But I feel
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Speaker 1: like everyone when you're in that position, you want your
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Speaker 1: voice to be heard and you feel like, you know,
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Speaker 1: you don't want it to be overshadowed. So everyone's kind
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Speaker 1: of pitching in and so it was very chaotic and
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Speaker 1: entertaining to watch. So and it was even more entertaining
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Speaker 1: and watch on TV because I was like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: I forgot that was said, and that was said, and
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Speaker 1: I was like laughing at all of it. It was
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Speaker 1: kind of funny and crazy. But well, let's go down
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Speaker 1: the list of big moments, big dramatic moments between the girls.
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Speaker 1: So first up, well there's the Anastasia thing. Yeah, let's
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Speaker 1: go with Anastasia. So Annastasia and Carlie and that drama.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like Anastasia was getting like for lack
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Speaker 1: of a better word like pounded on stage or do
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Speaker 1: you feel like you know there was like a side
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Speaker 1: that wasn't being told. Yeah, So with Anastasia, she had
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Speaker 1: two different points that we were being addressed to her.
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Speaker 1: The microaggression, which I feel like that was handled very well.
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Speaker 1: That needed to be said and we all need to
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Speaker 1: be educated on that. So and I feel like she
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Speaker 1: handled that well and she apologized and owned up to it.
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Speaker 1: And then the other side was the following and being
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Speaker 1: there for the wrong reasons. And you know, I'm even
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Speaker 1: though I say out of drama, I do believe that
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Speaker 1: everyone should be voicing their opinions and do I believe
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Speaker 1: that should be in a respectful way always that I try,
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Speaker 1: but it may not always come across that way. I
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Speaker 1: think for the most part, everyone was able to vocalize
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Speaker 1: what they needed to say. I don't really know how
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Speaker 1: I feel about her having a boyfriend. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that that's true personally from what I'm from what I
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Speaker 1: know from her, I think she's a great girl. I
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Speaker 1: don't think she would risk losing a job and all
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Speaker 1: of that if she had someone at waiting for her
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Speaker 1: at home. And I think she's still single, so if
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Speaker 1: she had a boyfriend, I don't think she's dating them now,
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Speaker 1: but um so, I don't know. I don't really think
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Speaker 1: that that part's true. But I think she handled herself
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Speaker 1: well and I respect her for that because that's a
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Speaker 1: really tough position to be in when you're getting accused
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Speaker 1: of this and you can't really defend yourself without any proof. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean you can't. It's been a storyline now for
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Speaker 1: a few seasons where somebody comes into it with a
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Speaker 1: boyfriend or a girlfriend and it does it feels like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: if you did that, No, probably not smart, but I
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Speaker 1: could see that you'd be dating up to the show
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Speaker 1: and exploring your options. We've said that. I think that's fine,
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Speaker 1: but you can't prove really if you're wrong or right,
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Speaker 1: or if you're doing it or not. You know, we're
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Speaker 1: getting into the drama a little bit, and I think
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Speaker 1: your insight is going to be so valuable to help
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Speaker 1: us get perspective. Two questions for you, one just to
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Speaker 1: give us some idea. Did you have your own dressing
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Speaker 1: room before Women Tell All? Or are you with the
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Speaker 1: group of women in one dressing room hearing all of
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Speaker 1: the chatter before the show? I was in a dressing
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Speaker 1: room with my one of my really good friends, Jen
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Speaker 1: just knows Jenne be on the show. I call her Jen.
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Speaker 1: But we were just hanging out, hyping each other up, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, just catching up. I haven't seen her in
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Speaker 1: a while, so I we didn't really I was helping
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Speaker 1: her just like discuss. I knew she was gonna you know,
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Speaker 1: educates on microaggression, so we're kind of like talking about
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Speaker 1: that topic and you know, I was asking questions, learning
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Speaker 1: more about it and you know, understanding it better. And
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Speaker 1: so we had really good, meaningful conversations. We weren't really
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Speaker 1: gossiping about the girls or anything. And like, because a
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Speaker 1: lot of the drama that happened, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: it's pre planned or not. I think everyone was just
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Speaker 1: kind of vocalizing it as they went, So you know,
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Speaker 1: we didn't get to foreshadow of any of that. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah, So you know, the drama isn't exactly
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Speaker 1: where a producer comes in and says, here are the
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Speaker 1: conversations I want you to bring up, and I know
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Speaker 1: you're going to bring them up. It just happens because
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Speaker 1: people want their moment. They're angry or they're upset and
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Speaker 1: they voiced them on a stage and then we see
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Speaker 1: how it plays out. And that's what makes women tell
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Speaker 1: all beautiful and also sometimes very awkward. Speaking of awkward, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: I want to know if you had a feeling about this,
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Speaker 1: and Jess, I want to hear yours as well. This
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Speaker 1: is the first time I can remember ever, you know,
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Speaker 1: on the Bachelor franchise, a franchise that holds himself to
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Speaker 1: a very high standard, and I think this season especially
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Speaker 1: feels like a throwback. It feels like, you know, a
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Speaker 1: really good season of not a ton of drama, a
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Speaker 1: lot of character development, a lot of tough breakups. It
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Speaker 1: feels like maybe of a season six years ago. But
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Speaker 1: this was the first time I've ever heard the show
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Speaker 1: introduced next week as sex Week. I'm pretty sure that
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Speaker 1: that's because Zach coined it himself, right, He said something
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Speaker 1: along the lines up, I know this is Fantasy Sweets Week,
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Speaker 1: which is basically sex week, but I don't want to
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Speaker 1: participate in that. Yeah, okay, so it doesn't feel weird
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Speaker 1: to you two that it's called sex week. Now, it's
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Speaker 1: not fantasy seek, it's not they Jesse made a point
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Speaker 1: of saying like Zach coined it as sex week, so
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Speaker 1: it's only going to be called that this season as
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Speaker 1: a sort of joke. Okay, good. I didn't want to
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Speaker 1: keep going, maybe imagine. Yeah, I don't think it should
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Speaker 1: keep going. I thought it got weird there for a second,
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Speaker 1: but okay, that's it, Ashley, back to the girl's drama. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So the other like sort of villainous person we had
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Speaker 1: this week this year was Christina. Tell us a scoop
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Speaker 1: on Christina in the house. We know that she got
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Speaker 1: kind of a bad rap because she kept talking about
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Speaker 1: her time with Zach. You know, like if people are like,
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Speaker 1: we don't really want to hear about your time with Zach.
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Speaker 1: He's even really self centered about this. Was that who
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Speaker 1: she was or was there more to her? Do you
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Speaker 1: think that she got eliminated too early? Yeah? So Christina
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Speaker 1: is one of the women in the house that I
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Speaker 1: actually didn't spend that much time with. It kind of
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Speaker 1: how it worked out, like she got that one on
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Speaker 1: right away, and then um, I had a group day,
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Speaker 1: and then we had the football day and her team
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Speaker 1: once and then she had the after parties. So I
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Speaker 1: didn't want get to spend how much time with her
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Speaker 1: from what I gathered, Like, you know, I think she
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Speaker 1: really does mean well. UM, I think she just was
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Speaker 1: unaware of, you know, maybe some comments that she made
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Speaker 1: in the house that maybe made people uncomfortable. UM. I
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Speaker 1: personally was never in a conversation with her long enough
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Speaker 1: to where I could point those things out. UM. I
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Speaker 1: think she's she's kind, and I don't think that she
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Speaker 1: intended to go into this butting heads with anyone. And
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Speaker 1: I think that's very obvious with how she kept trying
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Speaker 1: to apologize and speak on her part. But UM, I
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Speaker 1: just from what I heard from the other women, she
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Speaker 1: did make them uncomfortable and she did put them in
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Speaker 1: positions where they, you know, wanted to remove themselves from,
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Speaker 1: which is unfortunate. But thankfully, like I never got to
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Speaker 1: experience it. So um, it's just kind of hear hearsay
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Speaker 1: from what I got. Can you can you elaborate on
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Speaker 1: how she made them feel uncomfortable? Um? Yeah. So I
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Speaker 1: know with the situation when Charity got her her group date,
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Speaker 1: Rose and Christina you know kind of took her a
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Speaker 1: moment from her and was you know confused and why
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Speaker 1: and you know all of that it really upset Charity
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Speaker 1: and rightfully. So I think if I got that group
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Speaker 1: date rose and someone said they were confused why they
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Speaker 1: didn't get it, I would be like, what, Um, so
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Speaker 1: it's just situations like that. Um, I think she was
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Speaker 1: free to open to really talk about it. But it's
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Speaker 1: a time and place when you can, and like those
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Speaker 1: are the moments that like aren't yours to take? Makes sense?
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Speaker 1: So I'm curious because you said it a few times now,
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Speaker 1: you stayed out of a lot of this, like it's
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Speaker 1: here say to you, right, you're not seeing this, you're
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Speaker 1: not a part of it, but you're around a while
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Speaker 1: so you're obviously there for a lot of these experiences.
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Speaker 1: How did you stay out of it? Like? What was
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Speaker 1: Was it just luck? Was it kind of your personality?
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Speaker 1: Would you do? Yeah? So pretty much my whole life,
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Speaker 1: I've always been in positions where, um, you know, in
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Speaker 1: college or in high school as a youth group leader
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Speaker 1: or in college as a new member educator with inclusion
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Speaker 1: and stuff like, I've just always been able to understand
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Speaker 1: people's perspectives on situations. And you know, there was a
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Speaker 1: part like in the Bahamas where I tried to speak
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Speaker 1: up about the Kylie and Honestasia situation, and I was
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Speaker 1: told that it's not my place too, so I think
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Speaker 1: then moving on, like, I just kind of realized it's
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Speaker 1: not m am. I allowed people. I'm allowed to say
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Speaker 1: not people told you that you weren't allowed to get
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Speaker 1: involved in that drama. Yeah, so they're either having her
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Speaker 1: best interests they're not. You hear, either do it or
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Speaker 1: you don't. It's one of those which I understand it's
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Speaker 1: not my place to speak on. So it was just
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Speaker 1: one of those things where I like, if I wasn't
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Speaker 1: passionate on something, I wasn't going to the voice in
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Speaker 1: my opinion. But I guess it's luck. When the whole
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Speaker 1: thing with Kat and Brooklyn happened, I did speak with
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Speaker 1: her privately about it and explained to her how it
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Speaker 1: was wrong. And you know, we were roommates, so that's
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Speaker 1: how I was able to do that because we were
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Speaker 1: together in a room or else that would have been
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Speaker 1: filmed and aired, but we were. So it's just I
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Speaker 1: guess it's luck in those situations. Well, that brings up
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Speaker 1: I feel like my third and final point of intense
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Speaker 1: girl Drama, which when I say intense, you guys probably
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Speaker 1: had the least amount of drama that we've seen in
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Speaker 1: a lot of seasons, which was nice for us I
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Speaker 1: think as an audience, it was in my perspective and
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Speaker 1: probably for you as a cast as well. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I want to get into Kat and Brooklyn a little bit,
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Speaker 1: because Brooklyn doesn't seem over it, and it didn't even
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Speaker 1: happen to Brooklyn. It happened to Charity. Charity was the
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Speaker 1: one who you know, had to go on a date
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Speaker 1: after a guy already kissed Kat and Charity, yeah, she
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Speaker 1: was just like all right, um, I mean that's not
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Speaker 1: the nicest thing, but also moving on and Brooklyn, just
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Speaker 1: like a Kat said, just days later, kept bringing it up.
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Speaker 1: Why do you think Brooklyn had such a thing after
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Speaker 1: Kat back a couple weeks ago. My theory was that
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Speaker 1: she was just very intimidated by her, as I felt
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Speaker 1: like she was the obvious frontrunner there. We were very wrong.
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Speaker 1: You know, in that moment, a lot of the women,
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Speaker 1: including myself, we're very confused why Kat did that. You know,
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Speaker 1: we are dating the same man, so you know, you can,
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Speaker 1: you have the right to speak to him, but again
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Speaker 1: time and place, so all of us were confused. I
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Speaker 1: remember when when Kat walked away all them and looked
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Speaker 1: at me, and they were like because me and cart
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Speaker 1: close and they were like, well, why is she doing that?
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Speaker 1: And I was like, I have no idea, Like she
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Speaker 1: didn't run that by me, So we were all confused.
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Speaker 1: And because I think Brooklyn, you know, has a voice
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Speaker 1: and she's not afraid to use it, and that's one
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Speaker 1: of her really really good friends. I think she she
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Speaker 1: wanted to be able to speak for charity when charity
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Speaker 1: wasn't present because she went on her date, and maybe
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Speaker 1: Kat's response wasn't fitting what Brooklyn needed, and so Brooklyn
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Speaker 1: kind of kept it going. You know, I think Kat
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Speaker 1: she did, I know, Kat apologize and she was doing
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Speaker 1: her best. I don't really know why the drama continued.
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Speaker 1: I you know, it wasn't it wasn't a lot of
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Speaker 1: it's hard off, but we all agreed that like it
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Speaker 1: was the wrong thing to do. But did it need
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Speaker 1: to be continued into a multiple day conversation. Probably not. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And really we didn't say of anything there. On the
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Speaker 1: Women Tell All stage, Jesse used that as a lead
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Speaker 1: in to solving these problems further and Bachelor in Paradise,
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Speaker 1: how much did you hear the word Paradise be thrown
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Speaker 1: around at Women Tell All amongst the girls, amongst the producers,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of the times we feel like Women
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Speaker 1: Tell All is kind of an audition tape for your
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Speaker 1: spot in Paradise. Yeah, I you know, heard it here
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Speaker 1: and there, but I think I don't know, I don't
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Speaker 1: really know I answered that question. I'm gonna be honest. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Paradise turn around a lot. I don't know if some
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Speaker 1: of those the women's intentions were to you know, get
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Speaker 1: a spot on Paradise or not. I didn't really put
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Speaker 1: that much thought into it. But for the most part,
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Speaker 1: the drama that did happen on the show, there was
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Speaker 1: never a resolution to it, and so I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of the women, regardless of Paradise or not, they
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Speaker 1: went into it wanting to get that resolution. And we
19:06
Speaker 1: may not have seen a resolution really, but I think,
19:11
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that they can work towards in
19:13
Speaker 1: para on Paradise or a camera was. We're all friends
19:16
Speaker 1: and really close, so you know, Jess, I have to
19:21
Speaker 1: pause here for a second, because we do. We do
19:23
Speaker 1: get to interview a lot of people coming off the show,
19:26
Speaker 1: and everybody's great when you get to meet him, you
19:30
Speaker 1: seem to have a very level head on your shoulders,
19:33
Speaker 1: which oftentimes from a viewer's point of view, goes, she's
19:36
Speaker 1: too good for this show or she's too good for
19:40
Speaker 1: this experience. And right now, as you're answering these questions
19:43
Speaker 1: and talking through, you know, situations that you weren't involved in,
19:47
Speaker 1: and you're doing it in a really graceful and kind way,
19:51
Speaker 1: which makes me go, yeah, she is. She's probably too
19:54
Speaker 1: good for this show. But the show needs people like
19:56
Speaker 1: jes to come onto it because they are great people
20:00
Speaker 1: to have be ambassadors for the show. So if Paradise
20:04
Speaker 1: came to you and said, hey, Jess, this might not
20:08
Speaker 1: be your cup of tea, this might make you feel weird.
20:11
Speaker 1: It's going to be a whole new environment, but we
20:13
Speaker 1: want you to try Paradise right now, what would you say? Yes?
20:18
Speaker 1: So I knew going into this. I think one of
20:22
Speaker 1: my biggest fears when I was going said yes to
20:24
Speaker 1: the Bachelor and was, you know, running towards it, was
20:27
Speaker 1: are these women going to be nice to me? Like?
20:30
Speaker 1: Can I handle that? And you know, thankfully we got
20:34
Speaker 1: a season that everyone for the most part was kind
20:36
Speaker 1: and respectful, to each other. And I am someone that
20:42
Speaker 1: if the opportunity is given to me, that means I'm
20:44
Speaker 1: ready for it. And I would definitely do Paradise if
20:49
Speaker 1: there is someone that I was interested in. I'm a
20:51
Speaker 1: hopeless romantic and you know I'm looking for love and
20:55
Speaker 1: I'm looking for that opportunity. Yes, I'm not someone that
20:58
Speaker 1: brings drama to the able, but that doesn't mean you
21:01
Speaker 1: can't you're not qualified or good enough to find love. Um.
21:06
Speaker 1: You know, there are so many great personalities that and
21:09
Speaker 1: you know everyone brings something different to the table. And
21:12
Speaker 1: you know, whereas I might not be the loudest in
21:15
Speaker 1: the room, that doesn't mean I'm not a good friend,
21:17
Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean I'm not a good partner, and
21:19
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that I'm not capable of being just
21:23
Speaker 1: as deserving to be there. So I don't think anyone
21:27
Speaker 1: is too good for the show because I think that
21:29
Speaker 1: takes away from the other women. I think it's more
21:32
Speaker 1: so that it's just a different personality if Jess isn't
21:36
Speaker 1: on Paradise. Actually I'm right, I know I'm not happy
21:41
Speaker 1: if I don't get to watch Jess, and I have
21:45
Speaker 1: a fireside of me like you guys saw that with Zach,
21:48
Speaker 1: like when I when I was crying and I like
21:51
Speaker 1: kind of a little laugh in there like that, Like
21:53
Speaker 1: my best guy friends texted me and was like, that's
21:55
Speaker 1: the laugh that I know you're about to like go
21:57
Speaker 1: off and you're like holding it Like I like, I
22:00
Speaker 1: have that side to me, like a very passionate and
22:03
Speaker 1: fiery side. I just I'm not going to bring it
22:05
Speaker 1: out if it's not organic, and there was never a
22:08
Speaker 1: moment like I'm not going to force him. I want
22:10
Speaker 1: to watch the screen and be like I recognize that person.
22:13
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like confused. So well, that's
22:16
Speaker 1: a perfect segue then into your hot seat, you know,
22:19
Speaker 1: to get us started on the hot seat, Jess, give
22:21
Speaker 1: us perspective. You look back now and your time with
22:25
Speaker 1: Zach and your time on the show, and you're fresh
22:28
Speaker 1: off of the woman, Tell all, what did you feel
22:31
Speaker 1: for Zach? What did you think was there now with
22:34
Speaker 1: hindsight now maybe different during the experience, but now with hindsight,
22:39
Speaker 1: what did you feel towards him, like when I saw
22:42
Speaker 1: him walk out or just looking back on your time
22:45
Speaker 1: on the show, was it was it as real as
22:48
Speaker 1: you thought it was? Yeah, so you know, I really
22:53
Speaker 1: did have I like word it a lot on the show,
22:56
Speaker 1: but it was the way I described my feelings for
22:58
Speaker 1: Zach was I had a really big crush on him,
23:00
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much as far as we took it,
23:06
Speaker 1: and watching it, you know, I felt very validated in
23:09
Speaker 1: what I was feeling, because I mean I was seeing
23:13
Speaker 1: myself fall for him, and um, that's what I felt
23:16
Speaker 1: and that's what I remembered. So it definitely was like
23:20
Speaker 1: a refresher. I think there was a part where, like
23:22
Speaker 1: in the Bahamas, he said like just be strong and
23:25
Speaker 1: like hold out like pretty much just not verbatim, but
23:29
Speaker 1: it's kind of what he meant, and like it just
23:31
Speaker 1: was like validating to know, like, yeah, what I felt
23:35
Speaker 1: was real and it was reciprocated. And you know, although
23:38
Speaker 1: the exit wasn't it did it felt very one sided,
23:42
Speaker 1: like looking back, like I wasn't alone in the relationship
23:45
Speaker 1: that we had, so watching it it definitely brought those
23:48
Speaker 1: emotions of like validation but also just like oh that sucks,
23:51
Speaker 1: like didn't work out, but like I think he's great
23:54
Speaker 1: and I'm there was never any hard feelings and you know,
23:58
Speaker 1: I wished him the best, but it was definitely hard
24:00
Speaker 1: to watch it and be like, yeah, like I did
24:04
Speaker 1: feel that, and you know it was real. There had
24:09
Speaker 1: to have been a little hard feelings after you left
24:12
Speaker 1: so abruptly after this argument, where like you guys just
24:15
Speaker 1: didn't see eyed eye at all. And as an audience,
24:19
Speaker 1: and I think you feel the audience response, we were
24:22
Speaker 1: all like, Zack, how can you not see why she's upset?
24:26
Speaker 1: It's very obvious. And as somebody who was on the show,
24:30
Speaker 1: Ben and I talked about this, you know during that
24:33
Speaker 1: episode that you left, where like, it really does take
24:36
Speaker 1: a one on one for you to feel comfortable in
24:39
Speaker 1: opening up, because if you start a serious conversation like
24:42
Speaker 1: with ten fifteen minutes of one on one time on
24:45
Speaker 1: a group date, it just doesn't feel appropriate. So was
24:49
Speaker 1: there more to the conversation that we didn't see on TV? Yeah,
24:55
Speaker 1: the conversation, so it kind of thundered around my nerves
24:58
Speaker 1: with him and me not being comfortable, and that was
25:01
Speaker 1: why my argument was I just needed time And I
25:04
Speaker 1: addressed this literally night one, sitting with him on the
25:07
Speaker 1: steps in front of the mansions, I was like, I
25:10
Speaker 1: get nervous around men that I like, I it's something
25:13
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not like I learned to love about myself,
25:16
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't help it, but this is
25:18
Speaker 1: who I am, and you know I can say and
25:20
Speaker 1: i'm this is how I am. And he thought it
25:22
Speaker 1: was cute, and I like he was just like, that's
25:24
Speaker 1: so endearing. And so I never felt like there was
25:29
Speaker 1: a reason to worry about it and like change who
25:32
Speaker 1: I was because I thought he accepted it and it
25:34
Speaker 1: was okay. And you know, all the women like we
25:37
Speaker 1: get close, they knew about it and they comforted me
25:39
Speaker 1: about it and they were like, that's what makes you
25:40
Speaker 1: just like you have nothing to worry about. So I
25:43
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay. And then going into estonia, I
25:46
Speaker 1: was like, something is off, Like I don't like he's
25:50
Speaker 1: given me all this reassurance, but there's no actions following
25:53
Speaker 1: the words that he's giving me, So like what what
25:55
Speaker 1: could be the reason? And the back of my mind
25:57
Speaker 1: it was like, is it my nerves? Is it? Might
25:59
Speaker 1: like is is he seeing that as a red flag?
26:01
Speaker 1: But also he's never told me, he's never mentioned that
26:04
Speaker 1: as a red flag to me before, so that would
26:07
Speaker 1: be very dishonest of him if that if he were
26:10
Speaker 1: to bring that up now. So that's why I was confused,
26:15
Speaker 1: and I think that's why the conversation, like we were
26:17
Speaker 1: butting heads because I was like, if this was a problem, why,
26:22
Speaker 1: Like I'm confused, Like that's you know, you thought that
26:25
Speaker 1: that was endearing and you liked that about me up
26:27
Speaker 1: until this point, And like if if he had told
26:30
Speaker 1: me that sooner, what could have happened? And if you
26:34
Speaker 1: knew that I'm nervous and I, you know, take a second,
26:37
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you give me that time for me to
26:39
Speaker 1: get comfortable. So it just was like, I'm confused. There's
26:42
Speaker 1: a solution to this here. I don't understand. What's the confusion.
26:47
Speaker 1: So yeah, but when you looked back, or even when
26:50
Speaker 1: you're not looking back, even when you're sitting in the
26:52
Speaker 1: back of like the dump vehicle, did you wonder if
26:57
Speaker 1: I didn't bring that up tonight, would I still be Oh?
27:01
Speaker 1: Of course I wonder that. Because so in the moment
27:05
Speaker 1: when I got sent home, like in reality, not watching
27:07
Speaker 1: it back when I came home, I was so confused,
27:10
Speaker 1: Like explaining it to my family, I was like, I
27:11
Speaker 1: don't I don't understand. And when I watched it back,
27:16
Speaker 1: I was like, I think My biggest takeaway was he
27:20
Speaker 1: was that upset, like there was no emotion when I
27:22
Speaker 1: was talking to him. I thought I was in the
27:24
Speaker 1: wrong for a while until the show aired and I
27:28
Speaker 1: saw his reaction and I got to actually watch like
27:32
Speaker 1: how he was speaking to me, in his facial expressions,
27:35
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I wasn't in the wrong. And
27:37
Speaker 1: so it took me a while to kind of process
27:41
Speaker 1: the situation because when you don't watch it back and
27:45
Speaker 1: you're relying on your memory in a situation where you
27:47
Speaker 1: were already anxious and nervous and feeling all these things,
27:50
Speaker 1: you don't really remember clearly, and so on the hot
27:54
Speaker 1: seat when I was watching it, and I that's why
27:57
Speaker 1: I was like more smiling than crying, because I was like,
28:00
Speaker 1: I was just proud of myself because I didn't remember
28:03
Speaker 1: half of that, and you should be proud of yourself.
28:06
Speaker 1: Your hand, you handle yourself so nicely. That scene. I
28:20
Speaker 1: saw a meme last night. It was awesome. Maybe last
28:24
Speaker 1: it said it had a picture of you standing there
28:27
Speaker 1: talking to Zach and I said, how I can't I
28:31
Speaker 1: forget the start of it, But pretty much the point was,
28:33
Speaker 1: how in the world would this girl expect to get
28:36
Speaker 1: a date on a dating show, like, like, why in
28:41
Speaker 1: the world would she think that a date was should
28:43
Speaker 1: be given to her on a dating show. I thought
28:46
Speaker 1: it was so good, Like, yes, of course you wanted
28:48
Speaker 1: a date. You know. It brings up the point we've
28:52
Speaker 1: said it all season, and I know you listened to
28:54
Speaker 1: our podcast every week, so you've probably heard it. But
28:59
Speaker 1: you know, he said, I don't think Zach's a bad dude.
29:01
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad bachelor. I think he's
29:04
Speaker 1: there for the right reasons, and I think he really
29:06
Speaker 1: wants to find love. I think the only critique, which
29:10
Speaker 1: is again very minimal compared to most seasons that we watch,
29:13
Speaker 1: we critique pretty heavily, is that it felt like he
29:16
Speaker 1: just wasn't hearing some of the messages and words that
29:21
Speaker 1: the women were communicating. And maybe their response, and I
29:24
Speaker 1: want you to respond to this, Jess, would be that
29:27
Speaker 1: he already knew that he was going to send these
29:30
Speaker 1: people home before they voice their concerns, like maybe before
29:34
Speaker 1: it even went into it and they voice their insecurities,
29:37
Speaker 1: he just had bad luck, and as soon as they
29:39
Speaker 1: opened their hearts up to him, he had already decided
29:42
Speaker 1: they were going home. And so it just played out
29:44
Speaker 1: terribly on television for him, or he really was not
29:48
Speaker 1: hearing what you were saying. And you know when you
29:51
Speaker 1: watched when we watch your moment back, what I was
29:54
Speaker 1: hearing was this girl just wants to spend more time
29:57
Speaker 1: with you. She really likes you, she's interested in you,
30:00
Speaker 1: she just wants to get to know you better. And
30:01
Speaker 1: she's like almost complimenting you by saying, I just I
30:04
Speaker 1: just want to be around you more, which is a
30:06
Speaker 1: great compliment. So Jess, knowing the concern or the critique
30:12
Speaker 1: that people are giving Zach, knowing that you're in that situation,
30:15
Speaker 1: one of the examples of that, what would you say?
30:20
Speaker 1: You know? Honestly, I think it's a bit of both.
30:22
Speaker 1: I think he you know, he has a good head
30:26
Speaker 1: on his shoulders, so I think he has an idea
30:28
Speaker 1: if this is his person or not, so regardless of
30:32
Speaker 1: the conversation, if he's if he knows in his heart,
30:35
Speaker 1: he's going to make that decision. However, I think there's
30:39
Speaker 1: a factor in it of you know, he could he
30:42
Speaker 1: could have worked on how he listens and how he
30:45
Speaker 1: approaches conversations. You can still send someone home, but do
30:49
Speaker 1: it in a you know, a caring and compassionate way.
30:55
Speaker 1: But also it's hard to judge him when in his position,
30:59
Speaker 1: Like how do you do that when someone is so
31:01
Speaker 1: invested in you? Like, it's just it's a hard position
31:05
Speaker 1: to be in. But um, you know, I obviously I'm
31:08
Speaker 1: watching the show and I see how he handles some
31:10
Speaker 1: conversations and he could have he could have easily done
31:13
Speaker 1: it way better. And I'm sure he's watching it and
31:15
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. But you know, I think because
31:20
Speaker 1: he has that good head on his shoulders, he knows, Okay,
31:23
Speaker 1: I don't like this, like or not. I don't like
31:25
Speaker 1: but this girl might not be my wife, my fiance,
31:28
Speaker 1: so I'm going to send her home. This is awkward
31:31
Speaker 1: that she's kind of venting to me about her life,
31:34
Speaker 1: but kind of gotta do it. So Yeah, sometimes in
31:39
Speaker 1: those conversations, I feel like he's lacking sensitivity. Do you agree? Um? Yes,
31:49
Speaker 1: I mean I'm speaking on my position. I think, you know,
31:53
Speaker 1: he even brought that up at Woman's till all that
31:55
Speaker 1: he wasn't understanding my point, and I think it could
31:58
Speaker 1: have been such an easy solution. There was a point
32:01
Speaker 1: where I was like, I hear you, I hear what
32:03
Speaker 1: you're saying, Like, can you hear what I'm saying? And
32:07
Speaker 1: all he had to do was like, maybe I wasn't
32:10
Speaker 1: articulating what I was saying. The best way I could
32:12
Speaker 1: have stopped saying one on one probably yeah, But I mean,
32:16
Speaker 1: you know, he could have also been like, well, what
32:18
Speaker 1: do you mean by that? Let's figure it out, let's
32:20
Speaker 1: come to an understanding. And he wasn't. He kind of
32:23
Speaker 1: just in his head figured out or kind of came
32:27
Speaker 1: up with an idea of what I'm trying to say
32:28
Speaker 1: and then stuck with it instead of trying to dig
32:31
Speaker 1: deeper into understand So, speaking for myself, I think he
32:35
Speaker 1: could have been more sensitive, and I feel like his
32:38
Speaker 1: apology kind of sounds like he would agree to that
32:41
Speaker 1: as well. Let's jump in to the other couple of
32:45
Speaker 1: hot seats that existed. Some of them celebratory charity, right,
32:50
Speaker 1: some of them a little tougher like Greer. You know,
32:53
Speaker 1: greer situation is interesting to me Ashley as a more
33:00
Speaker 1: of a curiosity. I don't think there's anything wrong obviously
33:07
Speaker 1: with Greer approaching um something that she did on social media.
33:11
Speaker 1: You know, she defended a black face post that was
33:16
Speaker 1: really you know, probably why she was in the hot seat.
33:19
Speaker 1: It was most It was most of the conversation. I'm
33:24
Speaker 1: intrigued at how this happened though for her and not
33:27
Speaker 1: happening with Eric from last season, who was Gabby's choice
33:32
Speaker 1: at the end. Well, I think it's obvious what happened here.
33:38
Speaker 1: I think they got a lot of flack for not
33:40
Speaker 1: addressing it with Eric when I was watching the scene
33:43
Speaker 1: with Greer and having wondering, like trying to rack my
33:46
Speaker 1: brain on whether or not they brought it up at all. Yeah.
33:50
Speaker 1: So I can't say that they did it or not,
33:52
Speaker 1: but I know that if they even did, it was
33:54
Speaker 1: a small little blip on the radar. Yeah. Um, so
33:57
Speaker 1: I think that that's why Jesse said, like, we're not
33:59
Speaker 1: really good to address things like this on the show,
34:01
Speaker 1: so we want to really make a point to do
34:03
Speaker 1: so right now. Okay, So you think it was a
34:05
Speaker 1: response like learning from mistakes previously, it was a response
34:10
Speaker 1: to get better this time. That's fair, that's great. I
34:13
Speaker 1: appreciate that insight. So, Jesse, you were in the room.
34:18
Speaker 1: You you know Greer a lot better than we do
34:20
Speaker 1: because we've never met her. What's your take on the situation? Um,
34:25
Speaker 1: what's your take on the response from the other women
34:27
Speaker 1: and from maybe even grew personally if you're able to
34:30
Speaker 1: be around her. Yeah, So, I mean, that's a very
34:34
Speaker 1: tough conversation to have, and it's even tougher for someone
34:38
Speaker 1: to grow from it and be able to speak on it.
34:42
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I've props to her for being able to,
34:46
Speaker 1: you know, admit to her wrongs and speak on that.
34:48
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the women, you know,
34:52
Speaker 1: we're really proud because, um, you know, I know that
34:56
Speaker 1: she when it happened, when it came out, she wanted
35:00
Speaker 1: to address it, and I think she made like an
35:03
Speaker 1: Instagram story or something about it, which you know, she
35:06
Speaker 1: did that on her own. And I respect that a
35:08
Speaker 1: lot because I think a lot of times in this
35:11
Speaker 1: franchise and just in general, people don't like to admit
35:15
Speaker 1: when they're in the wrong and don't want to have
35:18
Speaker 1: those uncomfortable conversations that bring a lot of controversy. And
35:23
Speaker 1: for her to kind of want to write her wrongs
35:28
Speaker 1: is very highly respectful and it was the right thing
35:30
Speaker 1: to do. I'm really glad she got to address it.
35:34
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that this franchise address that they're not
35:38
Speaker 1: good at addressing this, and I think that speaks volume.
35:42
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that we can continue going towards that
35:46
Speaker 1: direction of correcting each other and holding accountability for us.
35:50
Speaker 1: But I thought Career, you know, spoke her truth and
35:54
Speaker 1: did her best, and she is a great person at heart,
35:58
Speaker 1: and you know, I know that that took a toll
36:01
Speaker 1: on her, and um, so I I respect her for
36:05
Speaker 1: being able to go up there because that's that's nerve racking,
36:07
Speaker 1: and everything she was saying was coming from the heart
36:12
Speaker 1: to what I to my understanding. So it's very well, Um,
36:16
Speaker 1: that's really well put and just you know, a genuine response.
36:22
Speaker 1: And and I'm glad that you and Ashley both pointed
36:24
Speaker 1: out that the show acknowledged that they aren't good at
36:27
Speaker 1: this and that they wanted to approach it. And so
36:31
Speaker 1: I think with that, I say, well well done. Well
36:34
Speaker 1: Kat sat in the hot seat, not a lot there
36:36
Speaker 1: to discuss in depth. It felt like it was kind
36:38
Speaker 1: of just a cyclical conversation um that had existed already
36:43
Speaker 1: on the show, and there wasn't you know. The beauty
36:45
Speaker 1: of that is that Kat now has a better relationship
36:47
Speaker 1: with her mom, which is huge. So let's jump into charity.
36:51
Speaker 1: Charity obviously a fan favorite, somebody just recently gone home,
36:56
Speaker 1: somebody that's still close to the viewer's heart, somebody to
37:00
Speaker 1: also celebrate. Jess, tell us about charity. What do you
37:04
Speaker 1: know and see in charity? Charity is just a ball
37:08
Speaker 1: at sunshine. She truly like what is so great about
37:11
Speaker 1: her is she is just as kind and generous as
37:15
Speaker 1: you see on the show as she is in person.
37:17
Speaker 1: I remember in London, you know, she was going through
37:20
Speaker 1: her own issues and she still took the time to
37:22
Speaker 1: comfort career and I feel like that says a lot
37:25
Speaker 1: about someone to take away you're what you're going through
37:29
Speaker 1: to be there for someone, And I just like that's
37:33
Speaker 1: in her nature. It's what she does her job, and
37:36
Speaker 1: it's what she does with her friendships. And I respect her.
37:39
Speaker 1: I think her being the boucherette is a phenomenal choice.
37:44
Speaker 1: I sent over a devotional book for her to take
37:47
Speaker 1: on her journey. She is a woman of faith and I,
37:51
Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited for her. I she is so
37:53
Speaker 1: deserving of love. And you know, it was heartbreaking to
37:58
Speaker 1: watch her hometown episode. Me and my mom are both
38:01
Speaker 1: going on the couch. Her family is so beautiful, and
38:04
Speaker 1: you could just tell, like with the community that she
38:07
Speaker 1: surrounds herself with, that she just is a very good person.
38:11
Speaker 1: And you know, we need I mean, we've always had
38:15
Speaker 1: good people as leads, but you know it's good to
38:17
Speaker 1: continue to have someone that can speak so well, can
38:21
Speaker 1: treat people so well. And you know, I think she's
38:25
Speaker 1: learned a lot from this season with you know, how
38:28
Speaker 1: Zach approached things, and I think she's going to be
38:30
Speaker 1: able to take that and be in a phenomenal bat shot.
38:34
Speaker 1: We've had mostly good leads, mostly nice leads. Season twenty
38:38
Speaker 1: had some issues, but for the most part, we've had
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Speaker 1: some incredible people. That's a self deprecate I can't wait.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch her. I'm so pumped because
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Speaker 1: I do I think, you know, being somebody of faith,
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Speaker 1: being somebody there for the right reasons, learning from not
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Speaker 1: the multitude of mistakes that Zach made. I don't think
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Speaker 1: there's like a plethora of things that he did wrong.
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Speaker 1: Yet I'm worried about what's so excited for next week?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it's she's just gonna
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Speaker 1: be an incredible bachelorette and h I'm ecstatic. I didn't
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Speaker 1: expect it shockingly, like I did not know she would
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Speaker 1: be named the lead, But I'm really glad you did.
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Speaker 1: I think all for the Top girls really are almost
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Speaker 1: equal in their running, and I think I would have
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Speaker 1: been equally as excited for any of them that were
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Speaker 1: crowned Bachelorette. Just do you think that that Charity was
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Speaker 1: really genuinely surprised when she was in that dressing room
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Speaker 1: and they brought the camera and Jesse in oh one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent, So where I was sitting, it was Charity
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Speaker 1: Brooklyn and then me and Jesse kept repeating like we
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Speaker 1: have a surprise for it's going to change a woman's life,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, we were kind of like looking around at
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Speaker 1: each other. I're looking at Charity because I was like,
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Speaker 1: they would be crazy not to, you know, offer it
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Speaker 1: to her. So I was like, do you know what's
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Speaker 1: going are you bout bachelrette? And she was like, they
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Speaker 1: didn't tell me anything. I don't know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: And she was like she literally goes, no, no way.
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Speaker 1: She's like, there's no way, and I was like, oh okay.
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Speaker 1: So we had no idea. So we were kind of
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Speaker 1: like trying to figure out what was going on, Like
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Speaker 1: I think I came up with the idea of like
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Speaker 1: maybe someone's gonna get chosen from the audience and gets
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Speaker 1: to like hang out with Zach. Like like I was like,
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Speaker 1: what is this because we all left, and you know,
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Speaker 1: Charity left with us, so I like, I didn't think anything.
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Speaker 1: I went into Pressed right after, so I didn't see
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Speaker 1: that they took her to a different room or anything,
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Speaker 1: but we were all walking towards the exit together. So
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Speaker 1: I was like surprised too watching it back, and you
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Speaker 1: know that was her genuine, humble reaction to it, and
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Speaker 1: you know you could tell she was like thinking, they're
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Speaker 1: playing a game, you know, and so that was really
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Speaker 1: cool to watch and special. Okay, well we want to
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Speaker 1: talk more to you, but before we wrap up the
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Speaker 1: Women Tell All episode, got to talk about bloopers. The
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Speaker 1: bloopers were on points. There have been years and years
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Speaker 1: now of disappointing bloopers. These ones really lived up and
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just the blooper real At the end, Jesse
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Speaker 1: also showed about three scenes and including that like twerking
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Speaker 1: scene so good. It really showed a lot of personality
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Speaker 1: with the girls, and that's the kind of footage that
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Speaker 1: people asked to see and they really delivered and showing
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Speaker 1: them during women's at all And I really I always
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Speaker 1: say it way too often, but if only they peppered
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Speaker 1: some of those scenes throughout, I agrees, people would get
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Speaker 1: so much more attached to these characters, really feel like
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Speaker 1: they get to know them better. Like that scene where
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Speaker 1: Zach thought that it was mold m o led wine
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Speaker 1: was amazing. I was sorry, mold wine, but it's actually
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Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I agree. I feel like a lot
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Speaker 1: of the episodes they did kind of like the the credits,
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Speaker 1: they would show like little bloopers and stuff, which I
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Speaker 1: thought was funny. But I agree, like, you know, showing
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Speaker 1: our personalities more so people can kind of like relate
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Speaker 1: to us and kind of you know, form a special
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Speaker 1: bond with you know, the contestants and want to continue watching. Um.
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Speaker 1: But those bloopers were hilarious in the twerking scene, like
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Speaker 1: you just see me like breaking out, and I like
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Speaker 1: ran scion because I was like I cannot be a
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Speaker 1: part of this, like I will not. So I was
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Speaker 1: watching them do that and I was dying laughing and
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Speaker 1: they all did really really good. I was like, you
42:33
Speaker 1: guys look great. Yeah, I know. I started squeezing my
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Speaker 1: butt cheeks back and forth. I was like, can I
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Speaker 1: do this? And then there's a tortillas slaps. Yeah. I
42:41
Speaker 1: was on a plane. I was just going back and
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Speaker 1: forth a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't do it
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Speaker 1: up but maybe later. And then there was a cute
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Speaker 1: like tortilla slapping thing. All of them are very good
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Speaker 1: demonstrations of what we actually do to pass the time
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Speaker 1: when we have no phones, no TVs and all of that.
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Speaker 1: Then the tarantula, we must talk about. This tarantula was
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Speaker 1: that in the Bahamas? No, that was in the mansion
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Speaker 1: and well, I wait, no, I think I'm wrong. There
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Speaker 1: was something wrong and there was some bug that was
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Speaker 1: in the mansion. They didn't play it, but like we
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Speaker 1: were like all freaking out, and I think Mercedes was
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Speaker 1: the one that went and grabbed it. Um and I
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Speaker 1: don't grab a tarantula, and you don't call it a bug.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a tarantula. It was like it was like
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Speaker 1: a really I kept saying, it was like an oversized ant.
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Speaker 1: It was like a really big ant. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: you have the Beatles, the big Beatle. I forget what
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Speaker 1: the kind of beatle like the like the floor, the
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Speaker 1: palm beetles or something like that. They're they're massive, they're
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Speaker 1: all over. I'm not familiar with California insects, but whatever
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Speaker 1: that was, I'm thankful it's not in Porta because it
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Speaker 1: was so so ginormous. Like, oh, that's not fun. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't think they showed that. It's Uh, the mansion
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Speaker 1: is amazing. Is an amazing place. It's beautiful. It's luxuria
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Speaker 1: is that also has doors open all day long with
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Speaker 1: lights on inside, so you can imagine what that looks
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Speaker 1: like by the end of the day. Jess. To close
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Speaker 1: up here, final question for you again. We're gonna be
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Speaker 1: bringing Jess back for an end depth episode to get
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Speaker 1: to learn all about Jess because I have a feeling
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be watching more of Jess in the coming years,
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Speaker 1: which we're pumped about. But before we get there, Jess,
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Speaker 1: if you know what happens at the end, just say it.
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Speaker 1: I can't talk about it because I know what happens.
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Speaker 1: If you don't know what happens at the end, what's
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Speaker 1: your theory on what happens? And I'm not giving up
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Speaker 1: this tradition what happens during Fantasy Suite Week. I do
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Speaker 1: know what happens perfect, don't talk about it all right.
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Speaker 1: We'll be back next time with Jess doing an in
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Speaker 1: depth episode. Until then, I've been been, I've been, Ashley
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Speaker 1: and Jess. Who have you been, I've been, Jess. Yes.
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