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Credlin | 24 October · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krandler Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Great to have your company. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight. There's lots of money being shown around, but
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Speaker 2: very little by way of results when it comes to housing.
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Speaker 2: What's worse reports today that suggests tens of billions of
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Speaker 2: dollars are being used a pork barrel housing spin.
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Speaker 3: In key labor seats, but not.
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Speaker 2: A single house has yet been built. Just one day
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Speaker 2: left for Victorian's to vote in council elections. I want
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Speaker 2: to put some tough question to the current Melbourne Lord
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Speaker 2: mayor candidate to Nick Reese, about what he actually.
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Speaker 3: Plans to do to clean up the city.
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Speaker 2: And what's on the table too, is Victoria gets closer
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Speaker 2: to negotiating and indigenous treaty. Plus a little later on
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Speaker 2: we go live to Tony Abbott is currently on the
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Speaker 2: bike across regional New South Wales as part of his
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Speaker 2: annual polypedal ride. It's time to raise money for our veterans.
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Speaker 2: And clearly she's onsets unfit to sit in the Parliament.
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Speaker 2: But as Lydia thought unconstitutional as well, she's trying today
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Speaker 2: to spin her way out of trouble or see if
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Speaker 2: she's constitutional. We'll talk with legal expert Chris Merrick. But
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Speaker 2: what's next for this activist and turn?
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Speaker 4: You know, my English grammar isn't as good as others,
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Speaker 4: and I spoke what I read, so I misspoke.
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Speaker 3: What are croc lydy of Thorpe?
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Speaker 2: I'll get to you in a moment, but first, I'm
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Speaker 2: not surprised, are you that the Albanezier government signature housing
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Speaker 2: policy has generated more funding for studies than actual homes.
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Speaker 2: Now it's a thirty two billion dollar program, yet there's
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Speaker 2: nothing much to show for it in terms of a
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Speaker 2: roof over someone's head. But the report writers and the
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Speaker 2: consultants will they're making millions. That's because these days, nothing
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Speaker 2: seems to happen without first having endless reports and inquiries,
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Speaker 2: of which their seems to then find new problems, needing
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Speaker 2: further reports and inquiries before anything can actually get done.
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Speaker 3: Analysis paralysis.
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Speaker 2: That's what I used to call it in government, and
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Speaker 2: it's one of the distinguishing features of modern government. According
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Speaker 2: to exclusive reports in the Australian today, taxpayers have paid
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Speaker 2: out tens of millions of dollars funding planning studies and
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Speaker 2: public servants to look at housing options in key marginal
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Speaker 2: seats and safe labor seats too, without a single home
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Speaker 2: being built. Almost fifteen million dollars was approved for councils
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Speaker 2: and state labor governments to hire more planning staff and consultants,
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Speaker 2: despite warnings that quote haphazard Commonwealth funding intended to streamlize
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Speaker 2: planning processes risked duplicating existing plans, stalling already slow processes,
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Speaker 2: and delaying new housing stock. And it was on cover
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Speaker 2: today that most of the money was being pork barreled
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Speaker 2: into key labor electorates seats held by the Teals and
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Speaker 2: Coalition held seats that labor wants to get at the
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Speaker 2: next election. So see this for what it is, a
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Speaker 2: billion dollar plan for labor to try and cling on
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Speaker 2: to power, not a plan for affordable housing. Even in
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Speaker 2: his own seat of Graindler, the Prime Minister's handed over
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Speaker 2: three million dollars to the Inner West Council to prepare
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Speaker 2: a precinct master plan for five housing investigation areas. The
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Speaker 2: money is also to procure and implement a new geographic
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Speaker 2: information system.
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Speaker 3: Goodness knows what that is.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's probably nice to have it, but none
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Speaker 2: of this will actually get more houses built anytime soon. Indeed,
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Speaker 2: let's be honest, the only housing plan the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: has is the one that has managed to pull off
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Speaker 2: for himself a four and a half million dollar beach home.
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Speaker 3: If only housing for everyone got as.
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Speaker 2: Much attention as that, there's no secret to getting more
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Speaker 2: homes built. First, we need faster approval processes, with very
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Speaker 2: few counsels currently meeting the standard times for approvals. Second,
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Speaker 2: we need more trade is to actually do the work,
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Speaker 2: preferably not important workers, but locally train the young Australians.
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Speaker 2: So let's back off the social pressure for every child
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Speaker 2: to go to university. As a research I brought you
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Speaker 2: last night shows only sixty two percent of kids starting
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Speaker 2: a degree in this country ever finish it. So if
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Speaker 2: you isn't really what they want from the outset, then
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Speaker 2: we've got to do more to encourage them into a
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Speaker 2: trade instead. After all, with a trade you avoid a
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Speaker 2: big hextead and a whole lot of left wing indoctrination,
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Speaker 2: So if you work hard, you're likely to end up
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Speaker 2: financially in front in a trade. Third, and most important
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Speaker 2: of all, we just need more land released for housing.
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Speaker 2: It's a bizarre fact that more in Australia, a country
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Speaker 2: with more readily available colon gas and uranium than any
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Speaker 2: other country, has among the world's highest energy prices, and
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Speaker 2: the country with more readily available land has almost the
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Speaker 2: highest housing prices. Along the way, the Coalition's Super for
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Speaker 2: Homes policy will it'll make a difference at the margins,
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Speaker 2: increasing the relative availability of housing to first home buyers,
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Speaker 2: but funding more studies that will generate plenty of press
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Speaker 2: releases and photo.
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Speaker 3: Whops, but not a single home.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's about as dumb as it gets from a
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Speaker 2: government that seems to have made wasting our money an
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Speaker 2: art form potto. Let's stay with the theme of dumb
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Speaker 2: politicians in Canberra and look at the latest today from
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Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe, who has led her mouth disconnected our as
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Speaker 2: it is from her brain, get her into more hot water.
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Speaker 2: Trying to be too clever by half is always a
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Speaker 2: recipe for disaster, and so who can be surprised that
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Speaker 2: Thorpe's brag about never properly affirming her allegiance to the
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Speaker 2: Crown using hairs instead of airs turns out to bite
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Speaker 2: her on the backside.
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Speaker 5: I swear allegiance to the Queen's hairs. If you listen
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Speaker 5: close enough, it wasn't her airs.
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Speaker 3: It was her hairs that I was giving my allegiance to.
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Speaker 5: And now that you know they're not no longer here,
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Speaker 5: I don't know where that stands.
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Speaker 2: I'm not so funny now, because anyone with any sense
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Speaker 2: would know that brag would call into question her legitimacy
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Speaker 2: to sit in the Senate. And that then said Thorpe
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Speaker 2: into damage control, trying to undo what she said and
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Speaker 2: spit it away as best she could.
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Speaker 6: I noted no expert on the English language. I read
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Speaker 6: it how I read it. You know what I read?
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Speaker 7: What it means me allegiance?
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Speaker 6: Well, I read the card. It said heirs, which you
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Speaker 6: know is now is heirs. I'm no expert on the
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Speaker 6: English language. That's part of the process of colonization, right.
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Speaker 8: You say, you sit in the Senate and you're in
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Speaker 8: quarter of a million dollars a year, but you don't
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Speaker 8: really understand the English language.
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Speaker 6: I don't subscribe to the violence of what England have
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Speaker 6: done to us, and that includes the language. I left
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Speaker 6: school at fourteen, mate. You know, I grew up in
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Speaker 6: public housing and went to public schools, and when I
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Speaker 6: got to the Senate, I simply said, has instead.
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Speaker 9: Of airs.
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Speaker 3: Come on about the same age.
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Speaker 2: I also went to public schools private schools as well,
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Speaker 2: but I also went to public schools in the same
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Speaker 2: state as her.
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Speaker 3: I know the difference between heirs and heirs.
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Speaker 2: But let's just listen, go back and listen to what
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Speaker 2: she said when she was sworn in.
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Speaker 5: True allegiance to her Majesty Queen Elizabeth for second, her
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Speaker 5: hairs and successes according to law.
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Speaker 2: She knew what she was saying. Too clever by half
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Speaker 2: is my read of what's happened here. Thorbe thought she
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Speaker 2: could be as smart Alec make fun of the ceremony
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Speaker 2: to swear her into office, that no one would notice,
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Speaker 2: or that somehow it wouldn't matter that she mocked the process. Now,
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Speaker 2: will we get a thrown out of the Parliament, as
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Speaker 2: I think a majority of Australians might hope.
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Speaker 3: I suspect not.
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Speaker 2: Because she was validly elected and also signed a document
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Speaker 2: on that day in the Senate as well as saying
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Speaker 2: those words. Will ask legal expert Chris Merritt later the
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Speaker 2: show for his verdict on this. But one thing I
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Speaker 2: do know, in four years, when she faces the electorate again.
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Speaker 2: At the end of her six year term, Lydia Thorpe
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Speaker 2: will not be elected, not even in the socialist state
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Speaker 2: of Victoria. She will not get the large number of
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Speaker 2: personal under the line votes to keep her in the Senate.
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Speaker 3: So rest assured she is gone.
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Speaker 2: Question is can we only hope it'll be sooner than that?
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Speaker 3: I might add I.
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Speaker 2: Have visited her office in Victoria. She doesn't work Fridays.
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Speaker 2: You pay her quarter of a million dollars and the
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Speaker 2: sign on the door on Friday says by appointment.
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Speaker 3: I've never seen that before.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Camper now for the headlines
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Speaker 2: Skynese political reporter cam Redden Good Evening.
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Speaker 8: Senator Lydia Thorpe has rubbished suggestions she could be ineligible
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Speaker 8: to sit in the Parliament due to confusion over the
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Speaker 8: oath she swore to the Queen.
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Speaker 10: Hair hairs and successes.
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Speaker 5: According to law, if you listen close enough, it wasn't
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Speaker 5: her heirs, it was her hairs.
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Speaker 8: The Coalition plans to seek legal advice on whether this
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Speaker 8: slip of the tongue could make Senator Thorpe ineligible.
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Speaker 9: She wants to try to have it both ways and say,
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Speaker 9: I didn't actually take the affirmation properly, but I'm still
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Speaker 9: going to sit in the Senate.
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Speaker 8: Since she did sign the oath in written form. One
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Speaker 8: expert believes she's splitting hairs.
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Speaker 2: That'd be reasonable grounds for the Senate to take the
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Speaker 2: view that she had made the oath of allegiance.
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Speaker 8: Red tape could delay the construction of nuclear power plants
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Speaker 8: in Australia for up to a decade, casting doubt over
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Speaker 8: the timeline of the coalition's nuclear plan.
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Speaker 11: And so if that takes you from here, say twenty
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Speaker 11: twenty five to twenty thirty five, before you commence building
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Speaker 11: much of our coal fleet white Glass, well beyond that.
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Speaker 8: Even so, the Coalition is adamant it can have nuclear
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Speaker 8: power operational by the mid twenty third pities.
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Speaker 10: We believe that is absolutely achievable.
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Speaker 12: I respect that the AER has its own opinion.
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Speaker 8: The Prime Minister has arrived in Samoa for a meeting
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Speaker 8: of Commonwealth leaders. The impact of climate change on Pacific
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Speaker 8: nations is a primary focus at this year's Commonwealth Heads
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Speaker 8: of Government meeting.
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Speaker 1: Whenever we're engaged in the Pacific, that is front and center.
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Speaker 8: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into other stories and headlines. I'm
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Speaker 2: joined now by Deputy Executive Director of the Institute of
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Speaker 2: Public Affairs Daniel Wilde and One Nation candidate for Keppel,
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Speaker 2: Paul and Hanson's chief of staff James Ashby. Well, Jens welcome.
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Speaker 2: Will start with housing. The Albaneza government again under pressure
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Speaker 2: after analysis of successful applicants from the one point five
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Speaker 2: billion dollar housing support program finds that tens of millions
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Speaker 2: of dollars was poured into key marginal seats, safe labor
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Speaker 2: seats and the seats they wanted the next election, as
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Speaker 2: well as tens of millions spend on planning studies and
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Speaker 2: consultants without a single house.
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Speaker 3: To show for it.
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Speaker 2: Now on top of that thirty million uncovered earlier this year,
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Speaker 2: but Housing Australias spent on consultants and executive salaries. Again,
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Speaker 2: not a dwelling to be seen, Daniel. This is a
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Speaker 2: billion dollar pork barrel. It's nothing other than that. It's
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Speaker 2: not a housing program. It's a pork barrel.
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Speaker 7: Well, that's one hundred percent right, Peter.
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Speaker 9: It is not a housing program, it's a political program
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Speaker 9: and the government's not serious about fixing the housing crisis.
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Speaker 7: In our country.
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Speaker 9: I mean you outlined the array of supply side issues
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Speaker 9: in our nation, the red tape, the land release and
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Speaker 9: so forth. And as we've talked about on a number
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Speaker 9: of times, Peter, you've got the demand side, which is
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Speaker 9: at the same time as the government saying they want
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Speaker 9: to fix the housing crisis whilst not actually building any houses.
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Speaker 7: They've also got.
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Speaker 9: The accelerated down on the primary driver of the demand
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Speaker 9: for houses, which is mass migration. About one point five
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Speaker 9: million net migrants lead in under this government so far,
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Speaker 9: and that's only going to go up. We all want
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Speaker 9: to be a welcoming and tolerant nation and to welcome
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Speaker 9: many migrants, as we have over the decades, but the
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Speaker 9: reality is that it has to be planned for, it
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Speaker 9: must have the consent of the community, and it must
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Speaker 9: be targeted towards areas of economic need.
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Speaker 7: Now that simply has not happened.
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Speaker 9: So if the government wants to get real about getting
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Speaker 9: Australians into houses, they need to urgently reduce our migration
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Speaker 9: intake and make sure that houses are actually getting built,
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Speaker 9: not just these consultant reports and tactics for how to
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Speaker 9: win marginal seats.
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Speaker 7: Peter, Let's go to.
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Speaker 2: Sidy, where the restaurant to Alan Yazbek's pleaded guilty to
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Speaker 2: displaying a Nazi symbol during a pro Palestinian rally in
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Speaker 2: the city CBT earlier this month. He's the co owner
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Speaker 2: of the restaurant group Nomad. There's no mad in Sydney,
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Speaker 2: there's a rain and LaRue in Melbourne. Last week he
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Speaker 2: stepped down as the co director of the business with
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Speaker 2: a big backlash from customers. He faces now an eleven
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine and twelve months in twelve months in jail.
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Speaker 2: He'll be sentenced next month. His wife, his business partner too.
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Speaker 2: They've put out a statement. She says, you know he's
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Speaker 2: gone dah da da da dah. But that looks like
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Speaker 2: damage control to me.
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Speaker 3: Will it work?
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Speaker 2: Do you think is this all faired income James.
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Speaker 12: Well, you can't play dumb. This was very deliberate. He
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Speaker 12: had to go out, you had to go buy the flags,
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Speaker 12: going deliberately put them up inside the window. No, this
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Speaker 12: is trying to just play dumb, get off lightly. But
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Speaker 12: this is the reality that so many people will face
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Speaker 12: out of the day. If you want to go and
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Speaker 12: put these symbols up, be prepared for the consequences and
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Speaker 12: don't try and play they didn't realize it meant something offensive. No,
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Speaker 12: stop apologizing or trying to make excuses and apologize. But
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Speaker 12: we're the consequences that come with the court action that
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Speaker 12: you're about to face.
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Speaker 3: And this wasn't his first rodeo either. I'll make that point.
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Speaker 2: We know the Victorian labor and two is going all
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Speaker 2: out on treaty and truth telling. The Premier now leaving
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Speaker 2: the door open for a public holiday in Melbourne for Victorians,
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Speaker 2: she says, to celebrate Aboriginal culture. Honest to goodness, Daniel,
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Speaker 2: we don't need another day on the calendar.
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Speaker 3: There's plenty of them there.
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Speaker 2: But one of the first things we put on the
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Speaker 2: table will be that public holiday. The opposition is saying, well,
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Speaker 2: we're likely to oppose the idea, but the least of
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Speaker 2: my concerns I have to say is a public holiday.
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Speaker 2: I mean on the table. There will be billions of
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Speaker 2: dollars on offer. There's even talk with special Indigenous seats
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Speaker 2: in the parliament.
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Speaker 3: Daniel.
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Speaker 9: That's right, Peter, I mean the opposition is right to
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Speaker 9: oppose this. A public holiday in exchange for losing your
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Speaker 9: country is a pretty bad deal.
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Speaker 7: They need to oppose the whole lot.
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Speaker 9: And as we've talked about Peter before, we are in
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Speaker 9: a crisis of democracy in Australia because Australia has just
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Speaker 9: voted no to all of this just a year Agovictorians
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Speaker 9: voted no to this a year ago, despite the funding
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Speaker 9: of governments, big business, sporting codes, all the major civic organizations.
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Speaker 9: Australians voted no to the Voice to Parliament to divide
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Speaker 9: us by race, and they voted no to Voice, Treaty
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Speaker 9: and truth. But Victoria is forging ahead with treaty and
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Speaker 9: so called truth telling. Well, truth telling just means rewriting
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Speaker 9: Australian history to justify reparations payments, which is the ultimate
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Speaker 9: goal of the activist class. So you know, if you're
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Speaker 9: a mainstream Australian sitting at home and you go, well,
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Speaker 9: hang on a minute, why did we even.
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Speaker 7: Have a vote a year ago?
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Speaker 9: If the political establishment is going to continue with these
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Speaker 9: divisive policies that Australians simply do not want.
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Speaker 7: And it's not just in Victoria.
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Speaker 9: We see similar things in Queensland, potentially in New South
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Speaker 9: Wales where I am in South Australia. There's even a
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Speaker 9: state voice de Parliament despite two third no vote to
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Speaker 9: the federal voice. So look, Australians don't want this and
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Speaker 9: it's time for our political leaders to finally listen to
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Speaker 9: them and stop dividing us.
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Speaker 2: And if not listening to you, I say this at
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Speaker 2: a date election, you whack them around at the ballot
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Speaker 2: box again. Do it again federally until they absolutely take
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Speaker 2: you on at your word. The CSRO James they're prepared
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Speaker 2: to reconsider. They say the figures in their gen Cost
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Speaker 2: Report that estimated Australia's first large scale nuclear power plant
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Speaker 2: could cost up to seventeen billion wouldn't be operational, they
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Speaker 2: said until twenty forty. Of course, it doesn't compare like
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Speaker 2: for like. It doesn't compare all the transmission and other
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Speaker 2: costs in the renewable rollout. There's been a lot of complaints,
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Speaker 2: not just from the opposition, but a lot of proponents
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Speaker 2: are saying these figures in the gen Cost Report are
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Speaker 2: on flawed assumptions. Today in that set of hearing, we
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Speaker 2: saw this from the Department of Foreign Affairs in Trade
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Speaker 2: on the moratorium on nuclear heabolism.
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Speaker 13: Are there any benefits of Australia not having the ability
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Speaker 13: to explore technology such as SMRs.
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Speaker 14: Are there any benefits for this moratorium and prohibiting you
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Speaker 14: from doing that that you're aware of.
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Speaker 10: I'm not a very any benefit of note, not at.
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Speaker 3: All, says James bad Time.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, thirty two countries around the world haven't got it wrong.
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Speaker 12: In fact, they're building more nuclear plants right around the world,
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Speaker 12: all bar here in Australia. And as we heard yesterday,
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Speaker 12: we've got these wind turbines that are going to go offshore.
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Speaker 12: They're not going to be any cheaper than nuclear according
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Speaker 12: to reports yesterday out of the same inquiry, So we've
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Speaker 12: got a real problem on our hands. We know that
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Speaker 12: those wind turbines out at sea aren't going to last
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Speaker 12: as well. I live nearby the beach here in the
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Speaker 12: seed of Kepel, so I know that my air conditioner
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Speaker 12: rots out after three or four years. So I can
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Speaker 12: only imagine a wind turbine in the middle of the
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Speaker 12: ocean which is carrying one four hundred liters of oil
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Speaker 12: is a natural disaster waiting to happen.
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Speaker 7: And we also know that we're not generating.
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Speaker 12: Enough power as we move closer and closer to these
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Speaker 12: net zero targets that have been legislated in states like Queensland. Here,
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Speaker 12: we're sick to death of hearing that our landscapes are
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Speaker 12: going to be plastered with wind turbines and these solar
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Speaker 12: arrays the size of multiple football fields.
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Speaker 7: No one wants them.
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Speaker 12: They're ugly, they're unsightly. Just to the west of me
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Speaker 12: here in Bouldercombe, there's plans for these massive, big lithium
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Speaker 12: battery storage plants. Again, small towns aren't being listened to.
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Speaker 12: When are we going to just make the final decision
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Speaker 12: to follow the same lead as these thirty two other
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Speaker 12: countries across the globe and say let's take the moratorium
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Speaker 12: off nuclear and let's move forward. Let's get it happening now,
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Speaker 12: let's do it united between both parties and just say
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Speaker 12: let's finally just commit the money and get on with
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Speaker 12: the job. Because power and energy security for this country
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Speaker 12: means cheaper power, but also our industries will be the
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Speaker 12: beneficiaries of this long term along with the jobs.
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Speaker 3: Just quickly down.
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Speaker 2: I've had a bit more time to have a look
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Speaker 2: at the IMF's forecast for Australia. We looked at the
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Speaker 2: top line analysis in terms of the federal budget, the
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Speaker 2: impact on inflation yesterday. The fact that in the you know,
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Speaker 2: international comparable country's leagues table, we're right down the bottom,
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Speaker 2: just in front of Slovakia in terms of where our
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Speaker 2: trajectory are on inflation is it. Of course that feeds
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Speaker 2: into the prices we pay for our mortgage. But there's
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Speaker 2: deeper analysis in there about the forecast for federal, state
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Speaker 2: and local government revenue it will hit This is taxes
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Speaker 2: a record share of GDP of thirty six point four
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Speaker 2: percent next year, so over a third of our GDP
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Speaker 2: in terms of the volume. I mean, that is extraordinary, Yeah.
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Speaker 7: It is.
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Speaker 9: It means one third of every dollar you earn in
20:39
Speaker 9: your back pockets going to a government. And you've got
20:41
Speaker 9: to ask yourself, well, are we getting a good return
20:43
Speaker 9: on investment. There's nothing wrong with government spending money if
20:45
Speaker 9: it's good for our society, but clearly we're going backwards.
20:48
Speaker 9: It's not building the infrastructure that's making us more productive.
20:51
Speaker 9: It's getting spent on out of control programs like the
20:54
Speaker 9: NDIS that's growing to no end, various welfare programs. And
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Speaker 9: the related problem, Peter, is this all no growth going
21:01
Speaker 9: on in our economy?
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Speaker 7: You know, the only growth.
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Speaker 9: We have is from debt, field, government spending and as
21:05
Speaker 9: I mentioned before, mass migration. So if you're spending more money, fine,
21:09
Speaker 9: provided your economy is growing faster than what you're spending
21:12
Speaker 9: is growing up. But we've got the opposite problem, and
21:15
Speaker 9: that's why this tax and spending is eating more and
21:17
Speaker 9: more of our economy and it's only going one way.
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Speaker 2: And the only jobs for finding in the economy or
21:24
Speaker 2: creating the economy, and jobs for public servants and others. Gents,
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Speaker 2: thank you for your time. Hey James Ashby, all the
21:30
Speaker 2: best for Saturday. I'll be watching you here on Sky
21:32
Speaker 2: News right down to the wire. I hope you do well. Okay,
21:36
Speaker 2: see you both next week. All right, after the break,
21:39
Speaker 2: Lidia thought, is she a valid member of the center
21:42
Speaker 2: or can we hope should be shown the dual way
21:45
Speaker 2: plas we used to spa here on Sky News a
21:47
Speaker 2: while back. We're going to have a bit of a
21:48
Speaker 2: ding dong tonight about the Mirror race in Melbourne. It's
21:51
Speaker 2: entering its final days. Candidate current law van Nick Greece
21:55
Speaker 2: coming out. Welcome back still to calm. One a day
22:02
Speaker 2: left for Victorians to cast their ballots in local council elections.
22:05
Speaker 2: I'll be joined by Melbourne's Lord Maan nick Reese. He's
22:07
Speaker 2: hoping he can get re elected, but not before some
22:09
Speaker 2: tough questions coming up about how we actually fix Victoria's
22:13
Speaker 2: broken capital.
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Speaker 3: But first.
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Speaker 2: With each passing day, more questions emerged, not only about
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Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe's fitness to sit in the Parliament, but now
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Speaker 2: the constitutionality of it all. On Monday, she screamed like
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Speaker 2: a banshee at the King and Queen, suggesting that she
22:27
Speaker 2: owed no allegiance to them because her oath wasn't a
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Speaker 2: valid one.
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Speaker 5: I swear allegiance to the Queen's hairs. If you listen
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Speaker 5: close enough, it wasn't her heirs.
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Speaker 3: It was her hairs that I was giving my allegiance to.
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Speaker 5: And now that you know they're no longer here, I
22:48
Speaker 5: don't know where that stands.
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Speaker 2: And I played that grag a little bit earlier when
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Speaker 2: she was actually sworn in, and she's right, she did
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Speaker 2: say hairs. So what's the end result of these revels
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Speaker 2: from Thorpe? What happens next to trying to get to
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Speaker 2: the bottom of it all. I'm joined ow by legal
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Speaker 2: affairs contributor at The Australian Chris Merritt Chris, the Coalition
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Speaker 2: says the considering legal options about Thorpe and he a
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Speaker 2: standing I guess to be in Parliament. Labor is saying
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Speaker 2: that they're considering a censure motion. You've written about this
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Speaker 2: in the Australian today. So where do things stand for
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Speaker 2: Lvia Thorpe.
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Speaker 15: It's a mess. It's an absolute mess, and I think
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Speaker 15: at the very least we need an investigation into the facts.
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Speaker 15: We need to know exactly what happened. Did she subscribe
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Speaker 15: to the oath, undertake the oath as set down in
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Speaker 15: the Constitution, or did she do it under duress? What
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Speaker 15: did she in fact say and does the written form
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Speaker 15: that she completed does that suffice? Is that sufficient? Or
23:54
Speaker 15: was that under duress? That's one point. The extra point
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Speaker 15: is this, has she disavowed that oath after her outburst
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Speaker 15: before the king where she said he is not her king?
24:08
Speaker 15: Does that amount to disavowing her oath? These are not
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Speaker 15: insignificant issues. The Constitution is very clear about the requirements
24:17
Speaker 15: that must be fulfilled before senators can take their seats,
24:22
Speaker 15: and if those requirements are not fulfilled, a senator cannot
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Speaker 15: validly take a seat in the Senate. So I think
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Speaker 15: starting the starting point, there needs to be a factual
24:34
Speaker 15: inquiry to find out exactly what happened. The officers of
24:38
Speaker 15: the Senate might be the starting point, but I would
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Speaker 15: not be at all surprised if this finishes up before
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Speaker 15: the High Court. It needs to be clarified. We can't
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Speaker 15: have for.
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Speaker 2: I was just saying, forget all this rubbish that she misspoke.
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Speaker 3: I mean, she was.
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Speaker 2: Clearly proud of dodging the official words in her oath
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Speaker 2: of affirmation. She doesn't swear allegiance to God. She clearly
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Speaker 2: doesn't now swear allegiance to the Crown, but she was
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Speaker 2: proud of dodging those official words. Then she sort of
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Speaker 2: realized she got herself into hot water, and she started
25:13
Speaker 2: to backtrack it on all of that. But to listen
25:16
Speaker 2: to her excuse today about not understanding English.
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Speaker 4: Now, forgive me for not being you know, my English
25:24
Speaker 4: grammar isn't as good as others, and I spoke what
25:31
Speaker 4: I read, so I misspoke.
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Speaker 2: Now out of the frying pan into the fire. If
25:39
Speaker 2: she says her English is bad, she sits in the Parliament,
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Speaker 2: she signs off on legislation, she votes on legislation that
25:45
Speaker 2: impacts all of us. She best to read numbers in budgets,
25:48
Speaker 2: she signs all of that off. I mean, I think
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Speaker 2: this is a joke.
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Speaker 15: Look, it's also inconsistent. Remember she did tell the ab
25:57
Speaker 15: so she appeared to be boasting that she'd effectively sidestepped
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Speaker 15: the constitutional requirement to pledge allegiance to the head of states.
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Speaker 15: Now a major statement that can't be taken back. It's
26:11
Speaker 15: all very well to say that her grammar or her
26:14
Speaker 15: English is.
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Speaker 6: Not the best.
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Speaker 15: Well, I think this needs to be resolved. It can't
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Speaker 15: be let lie. I think a censure motion is insufficient.
26:22
Speaker 15: I think we need the facts. We need a legal
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Speaker 15: overlay on top of that, legal advice based on facts
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Speaker 15: that have been assembled by the officers of the Senate.
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Speaker 15: And the first instance, I would imagine would be a
26:37
Speaker 15: good place to start. But we've seen relatively obscure provisions
26:43
Speaker 15: of the Senate in the past Section forty four, for example,
26:46
Speaker 15: which prevents foreign citizens from taking seats in the Parliament.
26:52
Speaker 15: That cost a number of people their seats. Now, the
26:56
Speaker 15: Constitution is not to be filled with the ultimate law.
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Speaker 15: You can't simply sidestep it and laugh it off. Otherwise,
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Speaker 15: your opponents your political opponents will seize upon it, which
27:10
Speaker 15: is exactly what's happened.
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Speaker 2: Just on a related question that often gets put up
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Speaker 2: when we look at her bad behavior. She was elected
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Speaker 2: under the Greens ticket. Fatima Payment's the same elected under
27:22
Speaker 2: a labor ticket. They didn't get much of a below
27:23
Speaker 2: the line vote. She quits the party but stays on
27:28
Speaker 2: in the parliament. If she had died in office, that
27:31
Speaker 2: seat reverts by convention to the party that got them
27:35
Speaker 2: elected and they then choose another candidate to go forward.
27:37
Speaker 3: I mean, that's very well established.
27:39
Speaker 2: How is it that when you quit the party, you
27:41
Speaker 2: keep the seat. Surely we need a change where that
27:46
Speaker 2: seat reverts back to the party that elected them. And
27:49
Speaker 2: if we were to do that, Chris, what's the meke
27:52
Speaker 2: it is? Is it something as simple as legislative change
27:55
Speaker 2: or is it constitutional change?
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Speaker 15: Look, I don't think legislation would cut the mustard. Section fourteen.
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Speaker 15: I think it is of the constitution gives the political
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Speaker 15: parties significant sway when it comes to selecting replacement senators
28:15
Speaker 15: casual vacancies. This all dates back to a chaotic period
28:19
Speaker 15: in the late seventies when a couple of states, Queensland
28:22
Speaker 15: and New South Wales broke with convention and made their
28:28
Speaker 15: own appointments. You might remember Joe JOCKI Peterson appointing mister
28:34
Speaker 15: Albert field Well. Chaos led to change. There was a
28:39
Speaker 15: referendum nineteen seventy seven. I think it was which gave
28:43
Speaker 15: the political power political parties significant new power over who
28:49
Speaker 15: was to fill casual Senate vacancies. Now, on the one hand,
28:56
Speaker 15: I'm reluctant to hand more power to political parties, but
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Speaker 15: we're in a very similar situation where you've got chaos
29:05
Speaker 15: emerging in the Senate with people bailing out of parties.
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Speaker 15: It's not good for the governance of the country. I
29:13
Speaker 15: think if one or both major parties got together and
29:19
Speaker 15: put up a proposal to add a new provision to
29:22
Speaker 15: Section fourteen dealing with this, that would be the way
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Speaker 15: to handle it. And I can't see how too many
29:28
Speaker 15: people would oppose it.
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Speaker 3: I agree with that.
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Speaker 2: I think that's inevitably where they will go. I'll get
29:35
Speaker 2: a telly actually next Monday of the number of them
29:37
Speaker 2: at the moment. But there is a whole lot of
29:40
Speaker 2: single independence elected by political parties now sitting on the
29:43
Speaker 2: cross bench, and that's not a good for democracy.
29:46
Speaker 3: Thanks very much, Chris.
29:47
Speaker 2: We'll stay across that issue because I do not think
29:49
Speaker 2: that's the last time I'll discuss lydia.
29:50
Speaker 3: Thought.
29:51
Speaker 2: All right, if you live in Victoria like I do,
29:53
Speaker 2: you've got just one more data. Cast your ballot in
29:56
Speaker 2: the state's local council elections. Now, like others, it's the
30:00
Speaker 2: Victorian Electoral Commission runs their council elections entirely by postal vote.
30:05
Speaker 2: So you've still got the ballot paper on your kitchen bench.
30:07
Speaker 2: You need to fill it in and get it to
30:09
Speaker 2: the postbox tomorrow stamped with tomorrow's date for your vote
30:13
Speaker 2: to count. Of course, the most closely watched race is
30:17
Speaker 2: that of the Melbourne Lord Mayor. Eleven candidates are vying
30:20
Speaker 2: for the position. A once proud city. Anyone who's been
30:24
Speaker 2: to Melbourne in recent months will see it's rundown, it's grotty,
30:28
Speaker 2: it's unsafe and for most of the day pretty empty.
30:32
Speaker 2: So how do you turn it all around? And who's
30:33
Speaker 2: the best person to do that. I've got a bit
30:35
Speaker 2: of self interest. I am a resident of the City
30:38
Speaker 2: of Melbourne, and joining me now is the current Lord
30:41
Speaker 2: Mayor candidate. My old Sky News Sparring partner nick Reese.
30:46
Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
30:47
Speaker 2: You're brave to come into this Lin's Dan nick Reese,
30:50
Speaker 2: thank you for being here.
30:51
Speaker 13: Great to be back in the Sky Studios with you,
30:53
Speaker 13: Peter and having a constituent meeting.
30:55
Speaker 10: Basically one of our most upstanding residents.
30:59
Speaker 2: I leave, as you know, one street out from the CBD,
31:02
Speaker 2: so I leave amongst the very best of the city.
31:06
Speaker 3: I chose to come back to.
31:07
Speaker 2: Melbourne to live where I live, but I also live
31:09
Speaker 2: amongst the very worst of the city. I've had to
31:11
Speaker 2: call ambulances when I've come across drug overdoses in the street.
31:16
Speaker 2: I step past homeless people, step around them. I come
31:20
Speaker 2: back at night as soon as it's dark. I don't
31:22
Speaker 2: feel safe.
31:23
Speaker 3: I mean it when I.
31:24
Speaker 2: Say the city's grotty. Don't pretend that this isn't happening.
31:28
Speaker 3: Because you know it. Easy and I have spoken on
31:29
Speaker 3: the phone.
31:30
Speaker 2: What's your solution to this? How do you want to
31:33
Speaker 2: fix this?
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Speaker 13: Well, Peter, I think that Melbourne is the best and
31:37
Speaker 13: fairest city in the world, and I've got a plan
31:39
Speaker 13: to make it even better. I'm confident that this city's
31:42
Speaker 13: best days are ahead. As you know, I became Lord
31:46
Speaker 13: Mayor a number of months ago and I have not
31:48
Speaker 13: wasted a single day.
31:50
Speaker 10: I got the East.
31:51
Speaker 13: Scooters off the streets, made our footpaths safe again, got
31:55
Speaker 13: rid of the clot of the tripping hazards that was
31:57
Speaker 13: creating not making our foot paths safe. I also put
32:00
Speaker 13: in place new cleaning contracts for the first time ever,
32:03
Speaker 13: our streets are now being cleaned twenty four hours a day,
32:06
Speaker 13: seven days a week. I brought back the Chinese group
32:10
Speaker 13: Toos to Melbourne. Sounds like a not a big thing,
32:14
Speaker 13: but that's worth a billion dollars to the city economy
32:16
Speaker 13: with the Chinese tourists coming back. I've also again sounds
32:21
Speaker 13: like a small thing, but got the cattle trucks of
32:23
Speaker 13: City Road, which are a big problem for people around
32:25
Speaker 13: South Bank, got them back into the Domain tunnel. So
32:28
Speaker 13: I am very focused on getting the scene city clean,
32:32
Speaker 13: making it safe and ensuring that Melbourne's best days are ahead.
32:36
Speaker 2: So we'll give you credit on the e scooters because
32:38
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk about extending the trial.
32:40
Speaker 2: You getting the job when you move on that. But
32:42
Speaker 2: what would you say to your critics? You say, well,
32:44
Speaker 2: hang on, you are the Deputy Lord mayor. A lot
32:46
Speaker 2: of this stuff has been degraded, yes, COVID, but degraded
32:50
Speaker 2: under your watch.
32:51
Speaker 3: What would you say to that.
32:52
Speaker 13: Look, I'm my own person, I've got my own priorities.
32:55
Speaker 13: When i became Lord Mayor, I said the most pressing
32:58
Speaker 13: priority was city cleanly and city safety. So put in
33:02
Speaker 13: place those new cleaning contracts we spoke of. We've also
33:05
Speaker 13: finished that works now on the biggest new homeless shelter
33:08
Speaker 13: that Melbourne's scene in decades, which will be a huge
33:11
Speaker 13: help around the homelessness issue.
33:13
Speaker 3: Safety. What about safety?
33:14
Speaker 13: Well, no one is going stronger or harder than me,
33:17
Speaker 13: Peter on safety. In this election, I've announced that the
33:21
Speaker 13: City of Melbourne will employ new city safety offices, not
33:25
Speaker 13: reaching out to the state government anymore asking for more resources.
33:28
Speaker 13: We will put our own people in uniform on the
33:31
Speaker 13: streets to keep people safe and be a big safety presence.
33:34
Speaker 13: Also doubling the number of CCTV cameras around the city
33:37
Speaker 13: two hundred new cameras monitored twenty four hours a day,
33:40
Speaker 13: seven days a week and the city so that's important.
33:43
Speaker 2: They're monitored. They're not just taking footage. If there's a
33:45
Speaker 2: crime you go back to and give it to the police.
33:47
Speaker 2: They're being monitored.
33:48
Speaker 10: Absolutely. We've got a control center at town Hall.
33:50
Speaker 13: We work closely with the police now literally stopping crime
33:53
Speaker 13: in its tracks. Because of that live monitoring situation, I'm
33:56
Speaker 13: going to double the size of that network.
33:59
Speaker 10: Also introducing a new activist approach to graffiti.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:06
Speaker 13: By doing we will actually be present in court proceedings,
34:10
Speaker 13: put the case for the city and implement a U
34:12
Speaker 13: spray you pay policy, So if we catch a graffiti
34:16
Speaker 13: vander will make them clean it up and pay for
34:18
Speaker 13: the damage to property as well.
34:20
Speaker 2: I know it's on the Twitter feed today. Toronto has
34:24
Speaker 2: taken out the bike lanes and two of its biggest
34:27
Speaker 2: main thoroughfares. Please tell me Melbourne's going to get rid
34:30
Speaker 2: of some of those bike lanes.
34:32
Speaker 10: Look, I'm taking a balanced approach to bike lanes. I agree.
34:35
Speaker 13: We've got these bottlenecks in our city which aren't working.
34:38
Speaker 13: So I've committed to fixing Exhibition Street, which causes huge
34:42
Speaker 13: congestion issues, fixing up Williams Street as well Queensbridge Street
34:46
Speaker 13: across from Crown into the city. I think we can
34:50
Speaker 13: reconfigure how the biplanes work in that part of the city,
34:53
Speaker 13: get extra lanes of traffic in there, and fix those
34:56
Speaker 13: bottlenecks equally. I mean, eleven lives were lost from cyclist
35:00
Speaker 13: on Melbourne roads last year. We can't acknowledge that's not
35:02
Speaker 13: a problem. So my focus in the next tim will
35:05
Speaker 13: be fixing those bottlenecks, mostly outside of the CBD, and
35:09
Speaker 13: helping keep cyclists safe as well.
35:12
Speaker 2: Just one before you go, because this will be a
35:14
Speaker 2: big determinant in my vote. I am told there's been
35:18
Speaker 2: a whole lot of preference deals done and if we're
35:21
Speaker 2: not careful, we could end up with a green activist
35:25
Speaker 2: Melbourne council.
35:26
Speaker 3: How true is that?
35:27
Speaker 13: Yeah, So look, I'm running with Rashena Campbell. We're a
35:30
Speaker 13: really strong ticket with a positive plan for Melbourne. It
35:33
Speaker 13: seems that others in this race have decided that we're
35:36
Speaker 13: the favorites, and so they've put any policy or philosophy
35:41
Speaker 13: to one side, and they've all sort of teamed up
35:43
Speaker 13: to try and do preference deals and I hope that
35:45
Speaker 13: one of them, any one of them, might get over
35:47
Speaker 13: the top of us. Now, the risk for voters there
35:49
Speaker 13: is if you don't vote for myself and Rashena Campbell,
35:53
Speaker 13: then you could end up with who knows what you
35:55
Speaker 13: might vote for? One political party end up with someone
35:58
Speaker 13: completely different in the top job at town Hall, and frankly,
36:03
Speaker 13: with some of those people running, it could be a
36:05
Speaker 13: case of last person out of Melbourne Police turn out
36:08
Speaker 13: the lights.
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Speaker 10: The risks are enormous.
36:10
Speaker 13: So the safe thing to do is vote for myself
36:13
Speaker 13: and riendship Rashena Campbell. We've put forward a really positive
36:16
Speaker 13: thought through plan, Peter, and as I said, we are
36:19
Speaker 13: confident that Melbourne's best days are ahead and we've got
36:22
Speaker 13: the plan to deliver on it.
36:24
Speaker 2: Goodness Mail, that's a good piech good luck, decrease, Thank you, Peter.
36:27
Speaker 2: I have to say when I used to work for
36:29
Speaker 2: Tony Abbot and he worked for Julia Gillard, I had
36:32
Speaker 2: a very straight and respectful relationship with him. Not everyone
36:35
Speaker 2: was as straight in labor as Nick Reese, and it's
36:38
Speaker 2: certainly the way it.
36:38
Speaker 3: Was for me here at Sky.
36:39
Speaker 2: I fact, when I lost my job when Malcolm Turban
36:42
Speaker 2: came along, Nick was one of the first people to
36:44
Speaker 2: reach out to me, So I think he'll be getting
36:46
Speaker 2: my vote.
36:47
Speaker 3: All right. After break and good live to the man.
36:49
Speaker 2: Tony Abbott is out of his charity bike Rade Bike
36:52
Speaker 2: Ride is working his way across the head Wales helping
36:55
Speaker 2: vegeands or talk to him. But what about the teals
36:58
Speaker 2: trying to say they don't know Simon Homes of Court?
37:01
Speaker 3: Do you buy that?
37:06
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the carm We you know, cost of
37:07
Speaker 2: living's bad when we have an actual reporter case of
37:10
Speaker 2: scurvy in Australia in twenty twenty four due to malnutrition.
37:16
Speaker 2: But first Polypedal an annual event founded by Tony Abbott
37:19
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, it's raised over seven million dollars
37:23
Speaker 2: for a whole lot of charities, including Ronald with Donald House,
37:26
Speaker 2: Soldier On Cares Australia and now the veterans support group
37:30
Speaker 2: Wandering Warriors. This year's event is currently underway, participants cycling
37:35
Speaker 2: over one thousand kilometers to support Special Forces veterans and
37:39
Speaker 2: their families. I'm pleased to say the former Prime Minister
37:42
Speaker 2: Tony Abbot joins me. The Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor, an
37:46
Speaker 2: ex Special Forces veteran, Quentin Masson live now from Armadale.
37:51
Speaker 2: Well wounded me and you probably are, having just got
37:54
Speaker 2: off the bike this afternoon. I'll start with you if
37:56
Speaker 2: I can, Tony Abbot, you love getting on this bike
38:00
Speaker 2: support a cause wandering warriors, Why were they chosen? How's
38:05
Speaker 2: a ride going? And how's your body holding up?
38:10
Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 16: Look, Peter, after twenty six years of this, it does
38:14
Speaker 16: get a little harder, but inspired by people like Quentin
38:18
Speaker 16: and accompanied by people like Angus, it's still very good
38:22
Speaker 16: to do. I started this thing because I thought that
38:27
Speaker 16: it was good for people like me to get out
38:30
Speaker 16: into the real world, to get out of your white cars,
38:32
Speaker 16: to get out of your.
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Speaker 10: Sues, to get out of your offices.
38:35
Speaker 16: And for me it's always been an important part of
38:39
Speaker 16: my year and long may it be the case. But
38:42
Speaker 16: to raise money for our Special Forces veterans, I think
38:47
Speaker 16: is just about the best thing you could possibly do.
38:51
Speaker 2: Well, Angus, it wouldn't be polypedal if we didn't have
38:53
Speaker 2: a Polly. We've got an ex Polly Polly, and you,
38:55
Speaker 2: obviously you've taken over the mantle here. Did you choose
39:00
Speaker 2: this route and why do you choose this charity?
39:05
Speaker 10: Well?
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Speaker 17: On the charity very much as Tony said, it's just
39:08
Speaker 17: an incredible cause supporting our Special Forces veterans as they
39:12
Speaker 17: go out into civilian life. It could be very tough.
39:15
Speaker 17: Quentin has I think led that work from wondering worries
39:19
Speaker 17: incredibly ably and with a particular focus on education. So wonderful,
39:24
Speaker 17: wonderful cause, why did we pick this route, Well, it's
39:28
Speaker 17: a beautiful, beautiful part of the world. We're here in Armada.
39:30
Speaker 17: We've ridden from Tamworth today and I've got to say
39:34
Speaker 17: the country is looking spectacular. Armadad we spectacular to ride
39:38
Speaker 17: into today and we get to meet people in an
39:42
Speaker 17: environment where we would normally meet them. Peter and I
39:45
Speaker 17: love getting out to country towns. I grew up in
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Speaker 17: one and live near one, and it's just a great
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Speaker 17: chance to meet Australians in their own setting.
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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at that map and I remember this
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Speaker 2: ride at a previous year and I think that armad
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Speaker 2: alt leg it's.
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Speaker 3: Got plenty of grading in it.
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Speaker 2: So you'll have an early night, Hey, Quentin, tell us
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Speaker 2: about the work of Wondering Warriors. How did you get
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Speaker 2: involved and tell me what the work means for people
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Speaker 2: that you support.
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Speaker 14: Thanks, Peter, Yeah, it was a pretty tough day some
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Speaker 14: Steve Gradians today. Wandering Warriors as the National Veterans Charity,
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Speaker 14: and we focus on education, as Angus mentioned, that's our
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Speaker 14: primary focus, and we're supporting special forces veterans as they
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Speaker 14: transition out. Providing education with partnership with some of our
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Speaker 14: leading institutions, universities and training institutions across Australia to give
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Speaker 14: a veteran an education as they transition out is really
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Speaker 14: setting them up for success as they.
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Speaker 18: Transition out of what can be an arduous time. Especially
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Speaker 18: the last few decades we've seen a significant amount of
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Speaker 18: deployments and operational service from Air Force and Navy, and
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Speaker 18: we're just really focused on providing some support services as
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Speaker 18: they transition to try and give them the best chance
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Speaker 18: as they transition in civilian life.
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Speaker 2: Tony, I know you said that you founded this to
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Speaker 2: get out and get amongst real people. What are they
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Speaker 2: telling you as you're getting around on the road now,
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Speaker 2: I'm interested. You know we're not far from an election.
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Speaker 2: What are they saying to you?
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Speaker 16: Well, I've always tried not to be too political on
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Speaker 16: this ride, but inevitably you do get people say to
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Speaker 16: you what's wrong in Canberra? Why aren't things getting done better?
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Speaker 16: Why are we going backwards? Why is everything costing too much?
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Speaker 16: So look, I think that obviously Angus and Peter Dutton
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Speaker 16: can be very encouraged by the response we're getting. But overall,
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Speaker 16: because they know this is a charity bike ride, they
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Speaker 16: want to say good on you and how can we help,
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Speaker 16: and hopefully you might put the link up, Peter, so
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Speaker 16: that if anyone does want to help.
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Speaker 10: We have.
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Speaker 2: Is the boss telling that the chief of stuff was to
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Speaker 2: do anyway and if I.
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Speaker 10: Could donate to me and not him, A wondering.
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Speaker 17: Worry is no worry where you need to go and
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Speaker 17: you can donate to anyone of us.
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Speaker 2: Not a worry, just quickly, Tony. There was a lot
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Speaker 2: of controversy today on the front pages of the paper
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Speaker 2: that decision to strip your former Home Affairs Chief Mike
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Speaker 2: Pazzullo of his Order of Australia Honor. Kim Beasley and
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Speaker 2: others have said it's completely out of order because he's
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Speaker 2: never been convicted, charged or even accused of a criminal
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Speaker 2: offense and that was the old threshold for removal. That
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Speaker 2: you've worked at him at close quarters, what's your view
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Speaker 2: about this?
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Speaker 16: Look, I think he's one of the most outstanding public
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Speaker 16: servants of his generation, unlike so many public servants who
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Speaker 16: are good at analyzing things but not very good at
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Speaker 16: getting things done. Mike pazzulla was an executor, He got
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Speaker 16: things done and I think this particular government just thought
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Speaker 16: he was too going ho on national security and that's
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Speaker 16: why they found a pretext to sack him. Now, to
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Speaker 16: the extent that he sent text messages to someone, well, hey,
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Speaker 16: public servants send text messages to influential people all the time,
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Speaker 16: and frankly, this looks like an act of Well, I
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Speaker 16: think it's a low, mean spirited thing and I do
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Speaker 16: fear that something like this diminishes the order of Australia
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Speaker 16: and that's very sad.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll leave it there, gentlemen. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm Quentin getting a charity into the mix here
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Speaker 2: and I hope it goes on to support many worthy
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Speaker 2: veterans in their families. Thank you, Tiny, Thank you Angus,
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Speaker 2: Thank you Quentin. All right, after the break, the blame
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Speaker 2: game begins with supermarkets lashing their suppliers. It's all the suppliers, fop,
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Speaker 2: and I'll say this is all about those price hikes. Plus,
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Speaker 2: as predicted, the pushes on to ban Tasmania's sad and industry.
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Speaker 2: So will Tanya Pleversic cave in welcome back other riches
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Speaker 2: to get to with my panel. Broadcaster Lucy's Elick and
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Speaker 2: senior fellow of Menzies Research Center Nick Cata, will welcome
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Speaker 2: to you both Coles and Woys that are heading back
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Speaker 2: at accusations of fake discounts from the ahpill see, claiming
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Speaker 2: that the price hikes have in fact been requested by
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Speaker 2: their suppliers. This is a bit rich, Lucy.
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Speaker 11: It's a bit hysterical too, isn't it, Peter. I mean,
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Speaker 11: what about the profits that they've made in the twenty
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Speaker 11: twenty four financial years. So we look at Cohle's for example,
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Speaker 11: they profited one point one billion. The Woolworths Group, for example,
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Speaker 11: also took away one point seven billion. So when we
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Speaker 11: start to talk about who this is hitting the hardest,
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Speaker 11: they're hitting the supplies, they're hitting the consumers.
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Speaker 3: And especially the farmers.
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Speaker 11: Representatives for New South Wales farmers also came out and
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Speaker 11: admitted that the prices that they're receiving for the cost
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Speaker 11: of their produce is actually below what they're actually making.
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Speaker 11: So it's incredible to see. And when you consider this week,
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Speaker 11: we've seen reports of other countries and their ability to
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Speaker 11: reduce inflation, and Australia of course is lagging behind that.
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Speaker 11: This deopoli that we have going on between the supermarkets.
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Speaker 11: I mean, there are a host of other reasons why
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Speaker 11: we have issues with inflation, but this deopoli that we
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Speaker 11: have going on with the supermarkets is just one of
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Speaker 11: those reasons.
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Speaker 2: You are not wrong, Nikata. I'll tell you what you know.
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Speaker 2: Captain Cook got rid of scurvy almost two hundred years ago.
45:31
Speaker 2: The poor ol much belign Captain Cook. But here we
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Speaker 2: have a case in Western Australia, a man who says
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Speaker 2: it can't afford nutritional supplements is sometimes skips meals, with
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Speaker 2: a British medical journal suggesting the cost of living pressure
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Speaker 2: could have been a cause. I mean, this is shameful
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Speaker 2: in a place like Australia, well.
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Speaker 1: Particularly in Australia, Peter, because we export seventy percent of
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Speaker 1: our agricultural production. We export, we produce seventy percent more
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Speaker 1: food than we can consume. You know, we are one
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Speaker 1: of the most food secure nations on Earth. So's there's
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Speaker 1: something going very, very badly wrong when people are suffering
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Speaker 1: from any kind of nutritional disease in this country. I
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Speaker 1: just find it astounding that it does come down to inflation.
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Speaker 1: And I take your point about supermarkets. But look there,
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Speaker 1: in my mind, they're just a little cog in the
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Speaker 1: whole inflation machine. Most of this, as we know, is
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Speaker 1: being driven by government, by its policy on spending, which
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Speaker 1: is forcing up inflation. And they're imposing unnecessary and extra
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Speaker 1: costs on supermarkets, transporters, finance on farmers through things like
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Speaker 1: you know, the compliance taxes. You've got to pay for
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Speaker 1: this regulation or another through through the cost.
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Speaker 7: Of energy, which is through the roof.
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Speaker 1: So you know, I think in the end, let's not
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Speaker 1: get let's not forget that the real responsibility here lies
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Speaker 1: with government policy.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the TLMP A Legra spender. She spoke
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Speaker 2: about the influence of Simon Holmes a court during her
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Speaker 2: Press Council address yesterday, and she said that the suggestion
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Speaker 2: there was someone pulling the strings was insulting. Laura jay Is,
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Speaker 2: my colleague, asked her about it this morning. Here's her response.
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Speaker 11: I think I may have met with him once the
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Speaker 11: entire time since I've been elected.
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Speaker 3: Really really met with him.
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Speaker 7: You know, do you talk on the phone. I don't.
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Speaker 9: I mean, maybe I've spoken to him like maybe two
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Speaker 9: or three times the entire time I have been elected.
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Speaker 2: Give me a break, Lucy. They're now trying to say
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Speaker 2: that they barely know each other.
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Speaker 3: Do you buy this?
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Speaker 11: He donated seven hundred thousand dollars to her campaign, right,
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Speaker 11: So you're going to tell me as a politician, right,
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Speaker 11: and someone that's hoping.
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Speaker 3: To get elected.
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Speaker 11: And let's bear in mind that Simon Holmes a court
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Speaker 11: wore a jumper that said elect when more women you're
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Speaker 11: going to You mean to tell me that she's had
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Speaker 11: barely anything to do with a donor that's contributed seven
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Speaker 11: hundred thousand dollars to her campaign.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's ridiculous.
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Speaker 11: But the broader picture here for me is that you know,
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Speaker 11: we have a politician, a member here.
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Speaker 3: That is so concerned that you know, she.
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Speaker 11: Has to intervene on a covert power list. Might I
48:18
Speaker 11: make a bit of a suggestion to the member for
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Speaker 11: Wentworth here that starts to kind of be a little
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Speaker 11: bit more concerned about the issues that are going on
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Speaker 11: in her council and her regions, you know, the issues
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Speaker 11: with roads and piles of rubbish everywhere and exorbitant council
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Speaker 11: rated spot on these issues, rather than a covert list
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Speaker 11: and getting so upset that a man could potentially be
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Speaker 11: attributed to helping her on her way. I mean, give
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Speaker 11: me a break, it's just ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to keep his name out of the paper.
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Speaker 2: Lady Doff protests too much, I think, is my line
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Speaker 2: on that one. Hey ya, we predicted this on Monday
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Speaker 2: Neck that there would be calls to ban salmon fishing.
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Speaker 2: We've been hearing about this for some time. In Tazzy's
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Speaker 2: Macquarie Harbor that has now emerged signed by a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of experts that say that the salmon fishing practices
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Speaker 2: there are threatening a vulnerable fish species. But the research
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Speaker 2: conducted by the industry says, well, no, we don't.
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Speaker 3: Think this is right.
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Speaker 2: We think there's obviously issues with the skate. We can
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Speaker 2: work in conjunctional farm in conjunction with keeping that species alive.
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Speaker 3: I'm worry.
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Speaker 2: We heard that the Department has already started to work
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Speaker 2: up a compensation payment to these operators. I don't reckon
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Speaker 2: this is going to end well.
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Speaker 1: This has been a long campaign by the deep Green
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Speaker 1: fruitcake movement to try and get rid of the salmon
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Speaker 1: fishing industry. Salmon farming industry. Now, of course it needs
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Speaker 1: to be properly regulated and I'm certain that it is.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I know it is, and salmon farmers have
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Speaker 1: to abide by conditions, they have to test, et cetera,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. But there are people who, for ideological reasons,
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Speaker 1: just want to get rid of this industry. And it's
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Speaker 1: a strategy because you know the case we just spoke
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Speaker 1: about about the man who's dying, who's suffering from malnutrition
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Speaker 1: apparently in Western Australia because of inflation. Well, this is why, Peter,
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Speaker 1: if you can't get access to good solid protein, and
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Speaker 1: salmon provides that. I mean, the salmon fishing industry is
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Speaker 1: terrifically efficient doing that and provides.
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Speaker 2: All Right, I've got to jump in the Nick out
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Speaker 2: of time, but we will, Eddies.
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Speaker 3: I love it too. I'd love to watch this very closely.
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Speaker 3: Thank you both Nick and Lucy is Ellick.
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Speaker 2: There that's it for me. I have a lovely weekend.
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Speaker 2: I'll see you back on Monday here at six