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“50 Days to Joe.” · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: This is a life-changing election.
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  Speaker 2: This will determine what America is going to look like
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  Speaker 2: for a long, long time. This is the most important
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  Speaker 2: election in the history of our country.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Jon Lovett. I'm Tommy Vitor.
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  Speaker 3: On today's show, Tommy talks to Reverend Greg Lewis, the
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  Speaker 3: leader of Wisconsin's Souls to the Polls initiative that's working
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  Speaker 3: to make sure everyone in the state can vote. Before that,
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk about the state of the race with 50
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  Speaker 3: days to go. Donald Trump's trip to California during the
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  Speaker 3: climate disaster he believes is a hoax. Mike Bloomberg's $ 100
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  Speaker 3: million effort to help Joe Biden win Florida. and the
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  Speaker 3: Biden campaign's effort to reach out to young voters and Latinos. Lovett,
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  Speaker 3: how was the show this weekend? I know the monologue
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  Speaker 3: was great because I was there for it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you were on the show and, you know, participatory.
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  Speaker 5: We had Dr. Ali Mattu who came back to give
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  Speaker 5: study that said we should abandon daylight saving time. And honestly,
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  Speaker 5: I gave him a few directions to consider for his
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  Speaker 5: research going forward. And he was pretty receptive. We talked
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  Speaker 5: to parents of listeners to make sure they were registered
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  Speaker 5: to vote.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great episode. And Tommy, I learned that
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  Speaker 3: Lovett does this show where he does a monologue and
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  Speaker 3: someone judges it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: We are 50 days out from the election, and Joe
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  Speaker 3: Biden is ahead of Donald Trump by an average... of 7.1%, 50.6%
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  Speaker 3: to 43.4%, which means the race is almost exactly where
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  Speaker 3: it was last week and almost exactly where it was
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning of June, right before the murder of
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  Speaker 3: George Floyd, the summer spike in COVID cases, the shooting
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  Speaker 3: of Jacob Blake, and both parties nominating conventions. We got
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  Speaker 3: a slew of high-quality polling this weekend, including a Fox
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  Speaker 3: News poll that has the national race slightly tighter at
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  Speaker 3: five points, and a bunch of state polls from both
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  Speaker 3: the New York Times and CBS that show Biden with
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  Speaker 3: Three to four point leads in New Hampshire, Nevada and Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Five point lead in Wisconsin and a nine point lead
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  Speaker 3: in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: Lovett, what if.
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  Speaker 3: Anything has changed about this race since the spring? And
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  Speaker 3: why do you think it has remained relatively stable?
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  Speaker 5: Well, one thing that's changed is in the spring, there
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  Speaker 5: were 200 days until the election and now there's only 50.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big change.
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  Speaker 5: It's a big difference. It's a big difference because with
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  Speaker 5: each passing day, look, seven points feels like a lot,
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  Speaker 5: but we obviously shouldn't be at all confident that that
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  Speaker 5: number won't get smaller. And if you take a look
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  Speaker 5: at that number and you shave off some points for
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  Speaker 5: voter suppression, you shave off some points for some people
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  Speaker 5: coming home to Trump, you shave off some points for
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  Speaker 5: the electoral college, and you end up with a close race.
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  Speaker 4: And that's.
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  Speaker 5: We should be happy that he's leading. We shouldn't be
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  Speaker 5: confident in it. And the fact that it's stable just
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  Speaker 5: tells us that a lot of what's going on is
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  Speaker 5: about the fundamentals in our politics that go deeper than
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  Speaker 5: the news cycle or what any of the candidates do
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  Speaker 5: on a daily basis. I mean, the one thing it
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  Speaker 5: does tell us is that a lot of what Trump
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  Speaker 5: has tried to do to change the dynamics of the race,
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  Speaker 5: shake the dynamics of the race, haven't really done that, right? Like,
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  Speaker 5: We've went through, we already pulled down his ads and
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  Speaker 5: he was coming back up with a new message, right?
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  Speaker 5: It was gone are the days of Joe Biden as
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  Speaker 5: an Antifa warrior. Now he's actually just a tool of
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  Speaker 5: the radical left or what have you. Like all of
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  Speaker 5: these sort of machinations haven't actually manifest in the polls
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  Speaker 5: that we see day to day.
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  Speaker 3: Tommy, what do you think? I do find it fascinating
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  Speaker 3: that the country can go through so much upheaval and
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  Speaker 3: we still end up at around the same lead we
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  Speaker 3: had in late spring.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's completely exhausting and I feel like a broken record.
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  Speaker 6: Harry Enten at CNN had a good piece about the
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  Speaker 6: average of these national polls. And these national polls, they're
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  Speaker 6: not the best way to evaluate a presidential campaign because
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  Speaker 6: of the electoral college, because key states matter so much
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  Speaker 6: more than huge numbers out of California, for example. But
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  Speaker 6: they're also pretty good quality polls that let you monitor
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  Speaker 6: changes over time. And basically, Harry thinks Biden is down
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  Speaker 6: three points from his peak lead, but still in that
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  Speaker 6: sort of 7% category, which should translate to a strong
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  Speaker 6: electoral college victory. What's changed in the interim, obviously, is
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  Speaker 6: these issues in the news, like COVID is the constant,
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  Speaker 6: but we've gone through conventions, protests about racial justice, and
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  Speaker 6: then these mini controversies like the Woodward book. We're starting
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  Speaker 6: to get these state-specific polls. The Times had this round
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  Speaker 6: over the weekend. They're generally quite Good for Biden. I
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  Speaker 6: think there is some some room to be concerned about
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  Speaker 6: some of these numbers. I mean, leads within the margin
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  Speaker 6: of error or leads that are not as big as
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  Speaker 6: you'd like to see.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, it's just it's pretty static.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think I mean, love its original joke
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  Speaker 3: about there's it's 50 days now instead of 100 days
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it was. And that's actually quite meaningful in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the polling, because the one real thing that's
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  Speaker 3: changed since the same lead in the spring is that
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  Speaker 3: there's fewer undecideds, fewer third party voters. So Trump's number
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  Speaker 3: has bumped up a little bit. So has Biden's. It's
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  Speaker 3: now hovering around 50 or over 50, even in some
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  Speaker 3: of these battlegrounds that he needs. And then, as you said, Tommy.
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  Speaker 3: Biden's a little off of his peak in June and July.
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  Speaker 3: And that's mainly because you see some soft Republican voters
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  Speaker 3: and Republican-leaning independents coming home to Trump. And the New
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  Speaker 3: York Times polls do show that that's partly a result
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  Speaker 3: of Trump scaring the shit out of people about the
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  Speaker 3: violence and destruction that's popped up around the overwhelmingly peaceful protests.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think that the Minnesota and Wisconsin polls
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  Speaker 3: were interesting in the New York Times. It's what we've
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  Speaker 3: been talking about. You know, they prefer Biden by wide
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  Speaker 3: margins on race relations, unifying America, managing the pandemic, handling
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  Speaker 3: the protests. And Biden and Trump are basically tied on
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  Speaker 3: the issues of violent crime and law and order. And
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  Speaker 3: Biden's still beating Trump in the suburbs among seniors and
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  Speaker 3: among white voters. So even as Trump has been able
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  Speaker 3: to scare some people with his whole Antifa shtick, Biden...
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  Speaker 3: is still maintaining these leads. And again, they're small leads,
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  Speaker 3: but they're stable leads. And then I thought the other
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  Speaker 3: thing that was sort of hopeful is by a huge margin,
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  Speaker 3: the people who didn't vote in 2016 and people who
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  Speaker 3: voted third party in 2016 in these polls say that
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  Speaker 3: managing the pandemic is more important than the law and
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  Speaker 3: order issues. So that is a hopeful sign. Lovett, did
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  Speaker 3: you have something you wanted to?
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  Speaker 5: Well, just, you know, it is hopeful, but then you
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  Speaker 5: look at this and you start to like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: I allow myself to say, okay, well, what are some
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  Speaker 5: of the less hopeful signs? Because why not?
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, you see like some tightening in Florida.
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  Speaker 5: You see, you see polling, you see Biden underperforming amongst
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  Speaker 5: Hispanic voters that may be in part because of, uh,
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  Speaker 5: his performing poorly among Cuban voters in places like Florida. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: and then you see part of what has been helping
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  Speaker 5: Biden maintain this lead is Trump underperforming with seniors. And
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  Speaker 5: you have to worry, right? That, uh, whether it's a
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  Speaker 5: White House vaccine announcement that's basically, you know, Dan Scavino
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  Speaker 5: putting some Gatorade in a syringe and running it out
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  Speaker 5: to make it look like it's real, whatever it may be,
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  Speaker 5: like you have to worry, like, well, what happens if
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  Speaker 5: those Hispanic numbers don't move, that Biden continues to have
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  Speaker 5: a weakness there, but the seniors come home, you start
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  Speaker 5: to see this thing narrow and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a 2016 outcome is not outside of the
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  Speaker 5: realm of possibility.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and every state poll shows that that's possible. Um,
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  Speaker 3: so Tommy Trump has been dealing with two pretty big
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  Speaker 3: controversies over the last few weeks. The report that he
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  Speaker 3: called us troops, uh, suckers and losers and the tape
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  Speaker 3: of him telling Bob Woodward that he intentionally downplayed the
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  Speaker 3: danger of COVID-19. Um, what have we learned from the
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  Speaker 3: polling about the effects of these controversies? And let's start
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  Speaker 3: with the Atlantic story. Um, The Atlantic story, which Trump
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  Speaker 3: still seems pretty worked up about. Let's play a quick
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  Speaker 3: clip of his rally in Nevada.
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  Speaker 7: They put an ad like that where I'm standing over
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  Speaker 7: graves and then they said, he said this with no sources,
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  Speaker 7: no nothing.
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  Speaker 3: They got nothing.
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  Speaker 7: And I have 20 25 real witnesses with the names,
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  Speaker 7: with everything saying it never happened. And they put an
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  Speaker 7: ad like that up. They're a disgrace.
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  Speaker 3: But you know the good part?
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  Speaker 1: Now I can be really vicious. I can be really vicious.
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  Speaker 7: And we'll start by saying we're going to start by
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  Speaker 7: saying that the Democrats are trying to rig this election
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  Speaker 7: because it's the only way they're going to win. The
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  Speaker 7: only way they're going to win is to rig it.
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  Speaker 3: The gloves are off. The gloves are off.
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  Speaker 5: No more Mr. Nice Guy, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: What's funny is the gloves come off and he says
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  Speaker 6: the same shit he always says, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: whatever that they're stealing from me.
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  Speaker 8: I mean.
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  Speaker 6: In terms of this story in The Atlantic where Trump
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  Speaker 6: allegedly called troops losers and suckers and said he didn't
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  Speaker 6: want to see disabled veterans in military parades and just
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  Speaker 6: this like unbelievable litany of terrible things. There is some
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  Speaker 6: evidence that suggests it might have had an impact, but
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  Speaker 6: I don't think we know for sure. There was a
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  Speaker 6: Yahoo Yuga poll that found 50 percent of registered voters
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  Speaker 6: think Biden has more respect for the military versus 39
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  Speaker 6: percent for Trump. That could reflect low general approval for Trump, right?
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  Speaker 6: If you think the guy sucks generally, you probably think
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  Speaker 6: he sucks when it comes to the military. Maybe these
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  Speaker 6: voters heard about the comments he made in the Atlantic.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe they heard about the Russia bounty story. Maybe they
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  Speaker 6: heard about reports in the Woodward book that Trump called
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  Speaker 6: his generals pussies.
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  Speaker 4: That's a quote. Who knows?
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  Speaker 6: It does seem clear that Trump is worried about this narrative.
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  Speaker 6: They're concerned about this storyline. The Biden campaign put out
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  Speaker 6: an ad about these comments from Trump. VoteVets put up
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  Speaker 6: an ad. Biden's been pushing it at events, and Trump
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  Speaker 6: actually filed a cease and desist letter to try to
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  Speaker 6: get Biden's ad pulled off the air. So there does
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  Speaker 6: seem to be some real concern there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and in that Yahoo YouGov poll, it said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: 23% of independents and 6% of Trump voters say troop
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  Speaker 3: comments increase their support for Biden. Those are very small numbers.
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  Speaker 4: It's one poll.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, it goes back to the point we've
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  Speaker 3: made before, which is in a, in a close election
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  Speaker 3: with over 150 million people voting, like we don't know
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  Speaker 3: what matters. We don't know what's going to change people's minds.
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  Speaker 3: And even little small little shifts have, have a big consequences.
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  Speaker 3: And also like every day that Trump is on the
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  Speaker 3: defensive about something is another day. He is not catching
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  Speaker 3: up to Joe Biden, which he does need to do.
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  Speaker 1: Love it.
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  Speaker 3: What about the effects of the Woodward takes?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Just on the, on the Atlantic story, you know, Trump's
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  Speaker 5: tried to muddy the waters around whether or not it's true.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe that's going to have some, some impact. But I
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  Speaker 5: think the key thing is Trump needs to do better
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  Speaker 5: amongst members of the military. He needs to close that gap.
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  Speaker 5: He still may, this was not going to make that
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  Speaker 5: happen sooner, right? Like that just made that job a
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  Speaker 5: little bit tougher. Even if we don't see any advantage,
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  Speaker 5: it certainly didn't help him on Woodward. You know, Ronna McDaniel, nay,
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  Speaker 5: Ronna Romney McDaniel, had a heck of a time over
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  Speaker 5: the weekend trying to figure out how to talk her
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  Speaker 5: way out of this one. Really fucked it up. It
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  Speaker 5: was a delight to see. But in one of the interviews,
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  Speaker 5: she said something so revealing, which is like, what would
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  Speaker 5: you have the president do? Go on television and say
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't have a plan and that it's a crisis
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  Speaker 5: and it's hopeless? And like, wait, hold on a second.
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  Speaker 5: You're overstating your case here. You weren't supposed to admit
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  Speaker 5: to us that the reason he lied is because he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't have a plan. All that's a way of saying,
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  Speaker 5: These scandals are different in the sense that the Atlantic
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  Speaker 5: story is, holy shit, this guy is a huge asshole.
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  Speaker 5: The Woodward story is, holy shit, this guy is a
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  Speaker 5: huge asshole and it's killing people. It's having real manifest
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  Speaker 5: impacts on our lives day to day. It is the
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  Speaker 5: impact of having somebody without empathy. Decency in a president
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  Speaker 5: is a matter of life and death. So to me,
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  Speaker 5: This is something that can have a more lasting power.
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  Speaker 5: And the fact that it's recorded means it's very hard
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  Speaker 5: to deny. You have to simply defend. And I think
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  Speaker 5: you see in some of the early polls anyway that
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  Speaker 5: at very least it has an impact on the perception
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  Speaker 5: of his handling of coronavirus. Will that manifest in overall
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  Speaker 5: approval or polling?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's also not just something that Trump said and did
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  Speaker 3: in the past. It has to do with what he's
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  Speaker 3: still doing right now. The guy held a rally indoors
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  Speaker 3: last night in Henderson, Nevada, in violation of the law,
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  Speaker 3: which said you can't have gatherings of more than 50 people.
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  Speaker 3: So violated state law, has this indoor gathering. only has
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  Speaker 3: the people behind him put masks on once the rally
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  Speaker 3: starts so that the TV cameras see that people have
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  Speaker 3: masks on behind him, which I don't know if that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't really work. That's not really the point of the mask.
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  Speaker 3: And then afterwards, a reporter asked him, aren't you worried
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  Speaker 3: about this being a super spreader event, about people getting COVID?
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  Speaker 3: And Trump says, quote, well, no, I'm on stage and
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  Speaker 3: it's very far away. And so I'm not at all concerned.
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  Speaker 3: Which gives away the whole game.
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  Speaker 6: They put out a statement from Herman Cain refuting the allegation.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the thing that people need to understand about
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  Speaker 6: Bob Woodward is like, Bob Woodward has a megaphone. Love him,
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  Speaker 6: hate him, think he should have released this information back
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  Speaker 6: several months ago and it might have made a difference.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not coming down on that.
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  Speaker 6: But Bob Woodward got a massive 60-minute segment last night
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  Speaker 6: about this book. That comes at the end of a
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  Speaker 6: week where it's like all anyone is talking about in Washington.
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  Speaker 6: So a lot of people are hearing things. these allegations
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  Speaker 6: that he basically covered up the severity of COVID-19 early on.
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  Speaker 6: And like the ABC poll that came out over the
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  Speaker 6: weekend has Trump's handling of COVID at 35% approved, 65% disapproved.
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  Speaker 6: It's still the biggest issue we're all facing on a
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  Speaker 6: day-to-day basis. And his numbers are like a disaster. That's
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  Speaker 6: like George Bush, Iraq war, Katrina level, you know, approval rating.
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  Speaker 3: And I will say, we just did a series of
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  Speaker 3: polls in battleground states with change research that we'll be
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  Speaker 3: talking about more on Thursday. But we just got the results.
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  Speaker 3: Just a quick preview here.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, John?
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  Speaker 5: I read the poll too. And I showed discipline. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't bring up the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk the numbers at all. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The reason I was going to say is, we did
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  Speaker 3: an open-ended question. What have you heard most about Biden
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  Speaker 3: or Trump? And it's open-ended, so you don't have to choose.
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  Speaker 3: And- The Woodward tape came up more than anything else
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  Speaker 3: about Trump. I was actually pleasantly surprised about that.
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  Speaker 5: It was really interesting, actually, that when something becomes the
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  Speaker 5: one story, it gets everywhere and it gets to people
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  Speaker 5: that maybe don't pay attention to much. It's a good
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  Speaker 5: reminder that the nothing matters crowd does not have a
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  Speaker 5: lot of evidence to support their supposition. Things matter not
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  Speaker 5: as much as they should and not as often as
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: they should, but they matter.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: I feel quite confident that over the last two months,
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: three months, six months, like the majority of news stories
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: that people have consumed about Donald Trump, especially when it
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: comes to coronavirus, have been pretty negative and terrible for
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: him as a candidate. What I often worry about is
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: the sort of Fox News only or non-news consumers who
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: are just seeing crazy, crazy nonsense on their Facebook pages.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: Charlotte Alter or Time Magazine had a piece about this
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: where she just interviewed dozens of people in various places
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: in Wisconsin. And they were just like, a fifth of
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: them were like, you know, or 20% of them were
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: like QAnon basically light kind of conspiracy theory repeating folks
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: who are just talking about a reality that is so
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: divorced from like Bob Woodward or COVID or any of
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: the things we're talking about or consumed about or things that,
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: you know, are fact-based.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Some people like QAnon light. I'm more of a QAnon
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: zero person. It just tastes more like the original QAnon.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I will say though, like that, that problem that you
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: identify Tommy that Charlotte wrote about in that piece. I mean,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: whether Biden wins or loses, that is a crisis that
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: is gonna be, that this country's gonna be dealing with
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: well into the future if we don't figure out a
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: way to, I don't know, to fight conspiracies, because it
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: is very, very scary.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: The basket of post-election challenges we have to deal with
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: is Everest-like at this point.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: So Trump's finishing up his weekend of super spreader rallies
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: with a trip to California where he's meeting with Governor
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Newsom about the devastating West Coast wildfires that have burned
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: millions of acres, forced hundreds of thousands to evacuate, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: killed at least 24 people. The president had said nothing
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: about the deadly fires until this weekend in a speech
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: where he also bragged about pulling out of the Paris
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Climate Accords. And he didn't answer Oregon Governor Kate Brown's
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: request for federal aid until Friday in a state where
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: 10% of the population has had to evacuate. Here's the
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: last time that Trump spoke at length about the California
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: wildfires at a rally in August, the last time there
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: was a set of fires. Let's play a clip.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And I see again, the forest fires are starting. They're
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: starting again in California. I said, you got to clean
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: your floors. You got to clean your forests. They have many,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: many years of leaves and broken trees. And they're like,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: like so flammable. You touch them and it goes up.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I've been telling them this now for three years. But
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: they don't want to listen.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The environment. The environment.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But they have massive fires again in California. Maybe we're
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: just going to have to make them pay for it
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: because they don't listen to us.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Tommy, why is Trump wrong that the failure to rake
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the floor of the forest is not the primary reason
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: for these wildfires?
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, he is just such a fucking idiot and
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: an asshole. I do want to just say to people
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: who don't live on the West Coast, It's hard to
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: really adequately state how depressing, demoralizing, like physically uncomfortable it
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: is to on top of that, of COVID, to on
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: top of all the protests and all the concern around
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: racial justice, on top of like the economic challenges, to
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: walk out of your house and have it look like
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: dusk at noon, because smoke is blanketing the entire state
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: of California. And like, you can't really exercise outside, like
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: I went for a jog stupidly a week or two
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: ago and I was coughing for days. It's really all-consuming
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: and brutal. And we have been dealing with record heat waves,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: record droughts. A couple of weeks ago, there were record
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: high temperatures, including like 118 degrees in LA. So what
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: you're talking about is global climate change, leaving all these
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: temperatures to be hotter, which is drying out.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: More parts of the state.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: And so you can't sweep floors of the forest across,
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: I think, 4.5 million acres that have burned. That's an
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: area that's bigger than the state of Connecticut. Like he
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: just like rake up the brush and we're good. It's
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: these super dry conditions. There's high winds. And then you
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: have people living in more rural areas. So they're both
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: at risk. And there's also the potential that they could
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: start fires themselves accidentally. Some of the fires are lightning strikes.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Others are like downed power lines.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Cigarettes.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: There were these gender.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Reveal party idiots who, that's a whole other thing. But
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: nine of the 10 largest fires in California history have
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: occurred since 2000. This is about global climate change and
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: it's only going to get worse. And him being like
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: a truther or like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: climate and fire, it just makes everything so much worse.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would tell everyone to listen to What
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: A Day this morning. Akilah and Gideon did a good
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: job of talking about, you know, the fact that there are,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: of course, mitigation efforts where you can clear out some
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: of the drier brush in forests. The challenge is most
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of these fires are not starting in forests, so it
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to do with forest management. The other challenge,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: of course, is that most... Of the forests in the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: West are controlled by the federal government. So it's the
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: federal government's job to manage these forests. And like you said, Tommy,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: you know, it is the consequences of climate change can't
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: be ignored here. I mean, you're getting so much drier
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: brush that has become like a tinderbox for these fires
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and you're getting less rain. Which is also why there's
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: more fires, too. So less rain and drier conditions are
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: a perfect recipe for really bad fires.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Love it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Why aren't these fires a priority for Trump? I mean,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: just just from like a pure political perspective, one would
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: think President United States running for election. I mean, he
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: is coming to California today, but you'd think he'd say like.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I want to be here and I want to take
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: care of this and show my strong leadership by taking
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: care of these fires.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the Washington Post ran a news story
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: that said this. You'd think it was an opinion piece.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: But of course, it is genuinely objective fact that it
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: sort of it touches on three of the areas he's
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: least interested in being president. One is climate change, as
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: we talked about. The second is places that need help
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: that didn't vote for him. He just doesn't care if
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: we live or die. And then the third is that
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: it requires empathy. It requires genuine leadership. You know, yeah,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: like 57 percent of California's forests are managed federally. Trump
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: wants to, you know, obviously, you know, when Trump talks
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: about raking the leaves, it is, you know, what happens when,
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: you know, some sort of real information at some point
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: in a briefing was passed through his sort of Google
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: translate into moron.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Like it just he.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Heard some information and it got mangled and it's they
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: aren't raking the leaves. But it's like, OK, you don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: want to talk about climate change.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Well, why don't we do a massive New Deal style
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: program as part of the Green New Deal to bring
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: in the resources we need to tend this 57 percent
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: of forest land that the federal government controls?
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: OK, we're in. But of course, he doesn't want to
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: He doesn't want to do anything required of a president.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: And like the only reason he's coming today, the only
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: reason he's finally tweeting is that he seems to have
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: faced some kind of blowback that he's aware he needs
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: to deal with. I imagine he would be facing more
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: if people like Newsom or Kate Brown or others didn't
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: feel as leaders felt during the early days of the pandemic,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: that if they were honest about Donald Trump's failures, he
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: would punish them, seek retribution in how he manages federal resources. So,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: you know, the other, I don't want to call this
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: a silver lining. It's not a silver lining. It's a
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: political reality, which is he is foregoing an opportunity to
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: use the power of the presidency to help his reelection process.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: by demonstrating leadership, grace, humility, empathy, support for his fellow
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: human beings. He doesn't have those tools in his toolbox
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: and it doesn't just hurt us, it hurts him.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Tommy? I mean, it did remind
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: me of the early days of the pandemic where he does,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: like if it doesn't matter, if something doesn't matter to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: him electorally, then he doesn't really care about it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like look, he only cares about states that he
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: think support him. On top of that, he only likes
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: problems where he is an obvious person to demonize and blame.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: And so the reality is when you're talking about a
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: climate change disaster, he literally doesn't have a plan. It's
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: not part of his platform. On top of that, he
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: makes it works by saying it's a hoax.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: And they have.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Actively undone Obama era rules to deal with climate change
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: that ranges from pulling out of the Paris Climate Accords
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: to revoking California's authority to set stricter auto emission standards.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: even when the car companies wanted to keep those standards.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: And so look, here in California, we're having fires, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: in the Gulf of Mexico, they're having stronger hurricanes. In
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: the Midwest, it was the derecho that decimated Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: So he can pretend that climate change is not a
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: part of the problem here, right? And the Republican Party
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: is so diseased that people are blaming Antifa for the fires, right?
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: You've like little militias in Oregon, like checking people. Tucker
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Carlson called climate change systemic racism in the sky, because
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: for him, it's a made up talking point that we
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: Democrats go to to sort of demonize the white middle
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: class who watches his show. So the only solution to
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: this problem is defeating as many Republicans as we possibly can,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: because it's not going to be enough if Joe Biden wins.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: We also need the Senate and we need the House
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: of Representatives to pass any kind of meaningful legislation to
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: deal with climate change. And like time is literally running out.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: This sort of went under the radar a couple weeks ago,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: but Miles Taylor was a senior official at the Department
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: of Homeland Security under Trump, who's since resigned and is
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: now speaking out about Trump. And one of the things
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: he has said is, Trump told us to stop giving
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: money to people whose houses had burned down from a
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: wildfire because he was so rageful that people in the
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: state of California didn't support him and that politically it
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: wasn't a base for him. And this isn't just about
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Trump taking care of his supporters and not taking care
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: of his opponents. He doesn't give a shit about all
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the Trump voters in California and Oregon and Washington. And
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: there are a lot. And he didn't give a shit
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: about the Trump supporters at his rally in Henderson last
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: night who could get COVID-19. He doesn't care about these
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: people that he pretends to be the fucking hero of.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Like he only cares about himself. He only gives a
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: shit about Trump in his own reelection. And that, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: this just shows that more than anything else. I was
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: going to ask you guys, would it be smart for
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Biden and Democratic candidates to make this more of an issue?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Then Biden is currently in the middle of a big
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: speech on this today, which is great. He said, wildfires
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: don't skip towns that voted a certain way. The impacts
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: of climate change don't pick and choose. That's because it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: not a partisan phenomenon. It's science. And our response should
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: be the same, grounded in science, acting together.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: All of us.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: It is interesting what Biden's doing. I think he's connecting
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: it to COVID and Trump's pandemic response too, right? Which
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: is yet this is another issue where Trump has ignored
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: science in favor of his own reelection and people have
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: paid the consequences.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: And it's Joe Biden acting as president and Donald Trump
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: asking his challenger up to and including the GOP chairwoman again,
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: tweeting like, Joe Biden's record on the coronavirus is terrible.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: And it's like, he's not the president. Your guy's the president.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: This is a chance, I think, for Biden to educate
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: the country about climate change. Because like, yes, the entire
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: West Coast is draped in smoke. That smoke is drifting
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: across the country. I saw maps where there are giant
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: clouds lingering over like Dallas, Texas and in Oklahoma. And
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: so for decades, Republicans and fossil fuel industry groups They've
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: tried to make the climate debate sound remote and sound stupid, right? Like, oh,
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: you liberals, you're crying about polar bears. We had Jim Inhofe,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: the Republican senator, on the floor of the Senate holding
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: a snowball saying, oh, you libs are saying that the
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: planet is getting warmer, but here's some snow. The truth
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: is that huge majorities of the country want to protect
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: our water. They want to protect our air. They want
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: to protect animals. They want to protect open lands. And
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: they want to reduce the impact of climate change They
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: also think the government is doing too little. Even younger
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Republicans care more about developing alternative energy sources. So I
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: think it's smart of Biden to jump on this now
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: because he needs to make an argument today that will
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: prepare us to do big things quickly when all the
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: fossil fuel companies and all the industry groups gear up
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: to try to kill all climate change. And we need
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: to have the Senate to begin with to even have
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: a chance of doing something.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: He's got a big, ambitious climate plan that also doubles
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: as his economic plan. And every opportunity he has to
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: break through the Trump show and talk about that plan
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: is one that he should seize because it's very popular
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: with a lot of voters. You know, Dan and I
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: talked about on the Thursday pod, including like voters in Pennsylvania, right?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Who you think are more conservative on some of these issues.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: It's popular across a lot of demographic groups.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: It's also just a place where the media has failed, right?
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Because like you'll see the entire West Coast of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: country draped in fire and the coverage of those fires
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: won't draw the connection to the fact that there are
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: policy choices being made in Washington and the Democrats are
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: for stopping these fires and the Republicans have opposed them
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: And this is the result, right? We all need to
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: close that loop a little better.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like the politicization of cause and effect. No,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: just because it's become polarized to tell the truth, we
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: can't pretend that climate change isn't causing these fires. It's
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: the only way we can friend the same on gun control,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: a host of other issues. We can't politicize. It's cause
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: and effect. We can't politicize it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk more about Joe Biden's campaign, which
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: is about to get a little help from former New
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: York Mayor Mike Bloomberg. The one-time presidential candidate will spend
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: at least $ 100 million in Florida, mostly on television and
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: digital ads in English and Spanish. Bloomberg, who is worth
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: more than $ 50 billion, had previously pledged to spend, quote,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: whatever it takes to defeat Donald Trump. Though this is
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: his first major 2020 donation on behalf of Biden, he
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: already donated $ 18 million to the DNC from his own
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: campaign and pledged $ 60 million to help Democrats keep the House. Tommy,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: why Florida and why now?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: So.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: I'll just start by saying I'm very grateful to Mike
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: Bloomberg for cutting this big check. We should just note
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: that it is well short of what he promised, right?
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Like during the primary, Bloomberg's team said he would keep
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: all of his campaign organizers on staff through November. They
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: would run this massive super PAC. There was a suggestion
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: that it would be like a billion dollars. And then
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: he shut it all down, transferred 18 million to the DNC.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: He also funded a lot of great groups like Stacey
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Abrams and others. But again, thank you, Mike. I'm glad
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: you're in the game. I also do wish that like
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: this hundred million had been spent starting six months ago
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: because it just gives you so many more options. The
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: reason Florida, the reason now I assume is because there's
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: a lot of people sounding the alarm about Florida. There's
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: been some polling that is a little too close for
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: comfort coming out of Florida. There is considerable concern about
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Biden's polling among Latino voters. That's particularly complicated in Florida
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: where you have Cuban communities, Venezuelan communities, communities that frankly,
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: the Trump administration has done a really, really good job
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: targeting over several years by being super hardline on Cuba,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: by dancing up to the point of almost supporting coups
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: in Venezuela.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Some would argue they did support them.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: So others say that there hasn't been enough organizing in Florida.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: There haven't been enough Spanish language or English language ads.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: There was a really worrisome piece in Politico today that
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: talked about the fact that all these Latino voters in
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Florida are just getting wild conspiracy theories directly targeted at
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: them on WhatsApp and through the radio. So on top
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: of that, there was some hope after 2018 that Andrew Gillum,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: who ran for governor, his organization would register all kinds
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: of new voters because it did seem like there was
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: a shortfall in the Miami area. He had some personal challenges.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: I don't think anyone really picked up this slack. So
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: now here comes Bloomberg. You know, the challenge, right, is
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: like we have 50 days, you have $ 100 million. Basically,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: the only thing you're going to be able to really
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: do with that is buy a shitload of ads. And
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: hopefully that moves the needle, but we just don't know.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: It's pretty crowded.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: There was an advisor to the Bernie Sanders campaign on
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Latino outreach, Chuck Rocha.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: And Chuck Rocha was saying that basically he was less
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: worried about what the Biden campaign was doing and what
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: their work was doing and more in the big gap
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: that existed between an outside money that basically tons and
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: tons of outside money has been pouring in, but only
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: a tiny, tiny fraction of it was devoted towards Latino
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: outreach and that his organization's 4 million might have been
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: the most. And that tells you that more was needed.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: So I think on that front specifically, I'm very, very
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: hopeful that blanketing the airways with a huge amount of
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: advertisement directed at this key constituency is really good. And
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I also have a feeling that just based on my
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: understanding of like how the Bloomberg world operates is that
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: they're very focused on getting the most for their money.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: And they saw this as $ 100 million dumped into Florida
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: final 50 days as something that could make the difference
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: that could really take a state from down by 0.5
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: to up by 0.5. And so I am very hopeful,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: hopeful that that is true.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is like a bang for your
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: buck move here. Like if you're the Bloomberg people, you're
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: looking at the map. Um, Biden wins Florida. He pretty
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: much wins, right? If Biden wins Florida, he's one other
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: battleground state of all the battleground states. Um, if Biden
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: loses Florida, he still, he still has a chance, but
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I think Trump needs Florida more than Biden does. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: so if Biden wins Florida, that's can deliver a knockout
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: blow and it can also do so early in the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: night on election night. So then we avoid sort of
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the election week scenario because Florida does count their ballots
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: fairly quickly. Um, it is a extremely expensive state to
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: play in. So by Bloomberg playing there, then maybe Biden
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: can spend money elsewhere. They sort of hinted publicly, they
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: were trying to communicate to Biden, like in Pennsylvania, specifically,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: they said, Howard Wilson said. So, um, I think Florida
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: and Pennsylvania are the two States where both campaigns have
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: spent the most money. So you can tell that they
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: think those are the two most important States right now. Um,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And it was also, of course, on the heels of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Trump saying he might dump $ 100 million of his own
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: money into his campaign because they are clearly short on
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: cash as well. And, of course, voting starts in Florida.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Ballots start getting mailed out September 24th, which is 10
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: days from now.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Tip for any vendor. Tip for any vendor getting money
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: from Donald Trump directly. Make sure that check clears the money.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: It's in your account.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no checks.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, the other thing about Florida is
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: there's no... there's no half in when it comes to Florida.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, just to rip off some stats from Steve Shale,
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: there's 22 million residents. It's the world's 17th largest economy.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: There's 10 media markets, including three of the top 18
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: in America. So it is a very, very expensive place
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: to move in all your chips and really play. I mean,
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: the Washington Post had a report where they kind of
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: announced they broke the news of.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: This Bloomberg buy.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: There was some Florida advisor in there who said it
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: takes $ 15 to $ 20 million to really move Biden's numbers
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: among Latinos is an estimate. And $ 60 to $ 70 million
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: to get on TV across the state over the next
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: 50 some odd days and have an impact. So it's
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: just a ton of money to even get in the game.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: And I just want to say, I always liked Mike Bloomberg.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Have been a huge fan for a while.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I remember you standing up for him when Elizabeth Warren
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: savagely attacked him during that debate.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: And I was like... I think that's unfair, Liz. That's
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: what I said at the time.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: One more point on Latino voters. You know, I talked
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: to Carlos Odio, who runs Equis Research on the last pod. And,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: you know, he did make the point that Latinos are
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: famously undecided until towards the end of a race. And
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: that especially Latinos in Florida, it's not necessarily that Trump
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: has captured that vote. it's that they have not quite
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: made up their mind. They don't know who Joe Biden
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: is or what he stands for. And so maybe they
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: don't like Donald Trump, but they also have no idea
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: who Joe Biden is. So a lot of this is just,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: he said, reaching out to them with some pro Biden message.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: And that is a great opportunity for Bloomberg and ads
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: to do some of that work and to fill in
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: those blanks with a bunch of ads, just like saying
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: who Joe Biden is and what he stands for and
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: what he would do. The other thing is if, If
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: they're looking for ways to spend $ 100 million that's not
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: just on ads, I know a million people have told
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: them this in different ways, but we saw last week
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: that a judge upheld a Florida law mandating that people
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: previously convicted of felonies must pay off all fines and
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: fees before they can register to vote, which is basically
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: a poll tax. It would be great if Bloomberg could
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: help pay off those fines and register some voters last minute.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I realize, like you said, Tommy, it's a huge effort
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: to undertake with like 10 days to go, but it
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: would be nice if he gave that a whirl.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, and maybe part of announcing this early was, okay,
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: so the Biden campaign now knows that there's a lot
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: of air cover going. Maybe they can repurpose some of
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: the money they would have put towards advertising to things
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: like this, to sort of paying off some of these
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: fines or direct organizing, or maybe they start up some
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: more door knocking in certain communities in Florida. Because, yeah,
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, it does seem like, look, there's always a
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: little bit of panic at the end of an election,
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: but there is more than normal coming out of Florida.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: And I think we should listen to these folks who
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: are experts there.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Biden's also getting some help in the form of free
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: advice from one of his other primary opponents, Bernie Sanders.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: On Sunday, Bernie denied reports that he's getting worried about
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Biden's campaign, but did say on MSNBC that he thinks
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Biden needs to talk more about his economic agenda and
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: do more to reach out to young voters and Latino voters.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Here's a clip of Bernie.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: I mean, look, what I have said privately is what
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: I have said publicly. And that is I think Biden
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: is in an excellent position to win this election. But
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: I think we have got to do more as a
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: campaign than just go after Trump. Trump is a disaster.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: I think most people know it. But we also have
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: to give people a reason to vote.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: For Joe Biden.
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: And Joe has some pretty strong positions on the economy.
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: And I think we should be talking about that more
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: than we have.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Lovett, what do you think of Bernie's advice? And why
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: do you think Biden's economic agenda hasn't been more central
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: to his message?
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: I think the advice fits with what we've talked about
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: for a while, right? That there's just, it was what
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: we talked about in the run-up to the convention, that
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: it was more about telling a story about Joe Biden
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: than it was about telling a story about Donald Trump,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: because everybody's heard that story. It bears out in polling
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: that shows that there's undecided voters who don't like Trump
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: but want to know more about Joe Biden. I think
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: it's probably something that Biden camp agrees with. But they
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: have a new health care ad. That's great.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: That not only hits Trump on.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Health care cuts and going after Obamacare, but talks about
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: building on the legacy of Obamacare. It's a very kind
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: of top level on healthcare, but it's a healthcare policy
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: contrast ad, which I think is really strong. And I
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: think it is the challenge of politics in this era.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: It's the same set of challenges that was presented to
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: the Hillary Clinton campaign that over and over again, there was,
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: you know, why won't Hillary Clinton talk about her economic
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: agenda in the aftermath of the election that was sort
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: of held up as like a signal example of the
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: campaign's failure. But of course, one of the challenges, you
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: give a 20-minute speech about the economy, it's the hit
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: on Trump that gets covered. That's just the nature of
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: the beast. So making sure that those hits are tied
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: into an economic message, I think, is really important. I
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: think Biden is doing that. That said, if what we
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: are seeing in polls, if what Bernie Sanders is pointing out,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: that it's like, we need to do more.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: You're trying.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: You have to do more to reach these young people.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure. Let's do it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Tommy, what do you think?
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I mean, Bernie is saying this out of love, right?
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think a great regret many of us
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: feel from 2016 is not being a little more full-throated
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: about concerns when we had them in real time about
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: how the campaign was going.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: So, you know, Bernie's also coming from a place where.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: He did extremely well with young Latino voters in the primary.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: He does have a sense probably from that campaigning, probably
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: from talking to some of the advisors who are later
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: quoted in these stories about their concerns about the Biden
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: campaign in Florida, about where there's some slack that could
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: be picked up.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: Like it's look, look at the things we're talking about, right.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: We're talking about like the, the state of California burning
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: to the ground. We're talking about polling, you know, it's like,
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: it's hard to get your plan to protect social security
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: to break through. I think that will happen with a
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: lot of paid advertising, uh, in distinct communities in Florida,
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: you know?
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: And so like there's, there's.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Always room to do a better job, um, telling your
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: economic story, especially knowing that it's the one place where
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: Trump seems to have this lingering strength because he inherited
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: a strong Obama economy.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Incredibly difficult to break through the media environment with a
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: proactive economic agenda or any sort of proactive policy agenda.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: It always has been. It is even harder in the
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Trump era because everything is the Trump show. We know that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: So I think, like you said, Tommy, it's it's paid
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: That takes care of that. And I think this is
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: like got to be Biden's number one or two or
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: third most important priority for these debates. If I was
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: prepping him for these debates and you always want the
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: candidates like this is what you must do in this debate.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: You know, if people leave the debate and take away
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: one thing, what's it going to be? I would say
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: it's got to be his proactive economic agenda, right? His
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: policy plans, right? And not talking about like details. He
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't need to like recite a list of policy details
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: or a laundry list. I don't think that does a
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: lot of good. But giving the, you know, maybe 90,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: however many people watch, 90 million people watch a good
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: sense of what you stand for and what you're going
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: to do. um, is going to be key to, uh,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Latino voters, young voters, undecided voters, infrequent voters. Like it
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: cuts across a lot of demographic groups. We're deciding between
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: candidates and deciding whether to vote or not to vote.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I'd also do it by the way. It's like the
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: always hard, hard during a pandemic, hard to when like Trump,
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about this over the weekend, right? That like,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: you know, Trump spent all weekend tweeting about there's this,
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: you know, there's this shooting in California. It's a terrible shooting. Um,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: but he tweets about it, right? Doesn't really care about
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: the wildfires, doesn't care about the pandemic consuming the country,
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: like challenges at the scale of reality, like massive, huge problems.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: He doesn't have an interest in. What he has an
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: interest in is zooming in on TV-sized problems, right? And
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: we don't have TV-sized problems, right? We have much bigger problems,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: and Trump has this savant-like ability to understand what plays
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: on this tiny box. And it has been a problem
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: for four years, and it will continue to be one.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Well, and we're going to fix it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: Great.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: These next 50 days, we're going to fix it. When
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: we come back, Tommy will talk to Reverend Greg Lewis,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: the leader of Wisconsin's Souls to the Polls initiative.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: And just one thing to add before we go to
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: the break.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: Reverend Lewis was so fired up that he forgot to
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: mention the Souls to the Polls website. So I just
• 44:05
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• 44:08
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• 44:12
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• 44:16
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• 44:19
  Speaker 6: you know, Pastor Lewis is working his tail off to
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: get people to the polls on Election Day in Wisconsin.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: And he's just an amazing guy.
• 44:35
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• 44:36
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• 45:19
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• 45:23
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• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Pastor Lewis, thank you so much for doing the show today.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, it's my pleasure. Thank you for having me.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: It is truly an honor to have you here. First
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: question for you. You know, I know earlier this year,
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: you caught COVID. You actually went to the hospital to
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: deal with some of the complications. Just how are you doing?
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, I'm doing great now, but I almost died.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: And that is certainly the truth. You know, if I
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: had not gotten to the hospital the day I went
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: that day, I probably would not be here now. And,
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: you know, God is an amazing guy. He saved my life.
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: And now I'm almost back to where I was before,
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: but my respiratory system is not fully developed yet.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Back to where it will be.
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: And I don't know if it will be because that's
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: how devastating that COVID-19 is.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Some people don't recover. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: So take it very, very seriously, everyone listening. I mean,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: the even more amazing thing that, you know, the more
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: I read about you, I mean, despite having COVID, despite
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: being in the hospital, you kept working and you kept
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: organizing from the intensive care unit. Can you tell listeners
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: about Souls to the Polls and why that worked is
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: so meaningful and so urgent that you are doing it
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: from the ICU?
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: Well, see, our community is in a critical condition, man.
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: We are life support. You know, we are in intensive
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: care as a community. You know, it's cold blue, cold red.
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: And I think as long as you have your breath,
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: you ought to give what you have.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't dead. All I was was sick. And
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I knew.
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: That being the leader of our organization, that people had
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: to be certainly encouraged at that time because it was
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: such a down time for everybody with the COVID and
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: with all the things we had to deal with. We
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: even sued the state election commission and my name was
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: on that lawsuit. So, you know, as I was laying down,
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: I could still use my phone and I could still
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: talk to people and I could still get reports about
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: how things were going. And we still had that lawsuit going.
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: And I want to tell you, people have to see
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: what's going on in my community. They just can't hear
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: about it. You just can't talk about it. You got
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: to be about it around here. And they knew everything.
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: the seriousness of this situation when I was laying in
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: that bed and I was still organizing and hoping that
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: other people would realize that we have to do this
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: stuff together. And because we stood up, we didn't win
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: the court case that went all the way to the
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: US Supreme Court. But I'll tell you one thing we did,
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: we made sure that votes were counted even after April 7th, 119,800
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: votes were counted. And that means that that Supreme Court
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: justice that we were trying to get in office, that
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: means that she made it to office because we fought
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: to bring those votes to account. And that tells our people, listen, man,
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: we don't have to take this stuff.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: We don't have to.
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: Do what has been done in the past by just
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: giving up and letting things go.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: We can stand up and we do have power.
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: And we need to express that in a way that
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: people see that, man, you're just not going to run
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: us over. I mean, you may have all the things
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: that you need to impress upon us your power, but
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: we have power too. And we certainly had it with
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: that vote. And that's what happened on that occasion. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: that's why I felt like I couldn't lay there and
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: just let things happen to me. I was not dead.
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: And I believe that that's how our community has to
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: look at things. Don't lay there and let things happen
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: to you. You know, you can't lay in the baseball
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: field and expect to catch flies.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Balls.
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: Man, you got to get up and you got to
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: run after the ball. And I think that that's what
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: we were showing when I was doing that. And besides that, man,
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: it's too much in me to.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Quit, man. I don't have that in me. And I'm
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: getting all excited.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: You know, people know I started crying and everything.
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: But I just felt like if I'm going to live,
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm not going to ever give up. You know,
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: I always say, man, I'll be scratching and biting and
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: pulling and reaching for everything I have until I die.
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: to continue to watch our community live like they're living
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: is not an option for me. And I knew one thing,
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: as long as I had breath, we could still fight.
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: And I wanted people to know that and I wanted.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Them to see it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: And certainly I had the strength to pull all my
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: being together just to make sure that folks who were
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: working with me understood that this work still must get done.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you didn't just get those votes counted.
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: You didn't just help win that Supreme Court seat. You
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: inspired everybody who saw what was happening in Wisconsin. And,
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: you know, I feel like you guys have provided a
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: roadmap for the rest of us for how to how
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: to organize in this pandemic. But I mean, one thing
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: I've noticed recently is like thanks to Trump's lies, his demagoguery,
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: more and more voters are saying, gosh, I don't know
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: if voting by mail is the right way to go.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: I'm worried those ballots won't get counted. How are what
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: are you telling folks?
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Who have those.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: Concerns as they try to navigate how to participate in
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: this election?
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: You know, for me, it's always a difficult task because
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: I always say, you know, I fight Ali and I
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: fight Frazier every day because I have to fight inside
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: with hopelessness and I have to fight outside with supremacy.
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: And that's going to always be there, man. And you
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: can't not just let things, you know, just... because they're difficult,
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: you just don't work on them. We have to keep
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: driving the fact that there's a pandemic. We may not
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: be able to go to the polls on November 3rd
• 51:29
  Speaker 8: because the weather might be so cold and so bad
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: and people might be so sick that they might have
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: an opportunity to call off the election or tell people
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: they can't go outside. And we're not taking that opportunity.
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: That's why we need to vote early. You know, we
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: need to take the risk. of your vote getting counted.
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: We need to take that risk of you mailing in
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: that absentee ballot. We need to take that risk because
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: we don't have any other choice if you really look
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: at it because a lot of people don't even want
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: to go out in this pandemic. And if they understood
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: what happened to me, you would understand that you don't
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: want to catch that virus. And we can't have people
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: standing in line for three hours waiting to vote around
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: other people who may be.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Sick and they may have an.
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: Occasion to obtain a one droplet in your nose or
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: in your mouth and that could cause death and you
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: just should have to take that chance. We shouldn't have
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: to be subjected to that. So we have to talk
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: about that mail-in voting and we have to try to
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: perfect it as much as we can right now because
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: if we don't, we may not have an opportunity to
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: vote on November 3rd.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: So we just have to keep pushing it.
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: And I know with our leadership talking about it the
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: way he does, it's putting a lot of skepticism in
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: that situation.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: And that's why we need to vote.
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, if there's nothing else, we need to vote
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: because we have leadership that has not been leading in
• 53:03
  Speaker 8: a very, very moral and righteous way. So we have
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: to continue to build ourselves and to make sure that
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: the environment that we live in is covered with the
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: faith of our faith community and with the blessings from God,
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: as far as I'm concerned. And we have to do
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: that in a way that would make sure that other people,
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: even though it's hard, they still try.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: We have to do that.
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: So we can't give up the mail-in ballots. We can't
• 53:36
  Speaker 8: give those up. We have to keep pushing them. We
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: gotta drag people to success.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir. Yes.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: Vote early. Vote as soon as you can. Tell a
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: friend to vote. I think that's all great advice. I mean,
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: on top of COVID, Wisconsin in particular has been part
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: of a conversation about police brutality and police violence and
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Black Lives Matter. I mean, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: were just in Wisconsin recently after the shooting of Jacob
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: Blake and some of the protests in Kenosha.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: How do you feel.
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: About the Biden campaign's message on racial justice issues, on
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: defunding the police? Are they speaking to the concerns that
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: you're hearing from folks in your congregation or voters in Wisconsin?
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. But you know what?
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: I just don't think they fight hard enough. Man, if
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: you ask me, I just don't think they fight hard enough.
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: We have Trump offices right in the middle of our
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: community and they are certainly doing everything they can to
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: get votes in their cab. I just don't think we
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: fight hard enough. This isn't just about voting on November 3rd.
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: This is about building power in our community for local
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: power and our local politics. This is about being able
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: to maintain a structure that is falling apart rapidly and
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: building it up to something that we can deal with,
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: but we have to deal with it with leverage. So
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: we're asking people to come out and vote because we
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: wanna build a voting block We want to say, OK,
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: we voted. Now we need to stay together and have
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: that block so we can have leverage for an agenda
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: that we can take to people in power and the politicians.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think.
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: In our neighborhood people really care about who's running. You know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: and that's a problem. So we have to do something more.
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: We got to talk about building power. Even though I
• 55:33
  Speaker 8: met Camilla the other day and I thought she was wonderful.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I really did.
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: And I think Biden will do some things that will
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: probably help our community. I just don't think people are
• 55:43
  Speaker 8: really geeked up and energized for that. I don't see
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: the energy I need to see in this situation. So
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: we want to bring some new energy here and say,
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: why don't we just make sure we vote? Because when
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: we vote, It gives us the leverage we need to
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: talk to folks who are coming into our community with
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: the resources, with the funds, so that we can make
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: sure that they have to listen to us. And if
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: they don't, we want to, you know, throw them, you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: throw the clown out. And if he does, we want
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: to support him like crazy. But we need that kind
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: of support. energy in our community right now. We need
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: it right now so that we can rebuild what has
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: been broken all over our community.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: So I'm willing to, you know, listen and support, you know,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: those candidates.
• 56:34
  Speaker 8: But I think we need a little bit more in
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: our community because we need people to understand that it's
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: more than just a vote because November 3rd is where
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: we have to really struggle to get people there.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: But November 4th is when the real work starts.
• 56:48
  Speaker 8: I can't leave my kitchen table on November 4th because
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: that's when we really have to organize and build up
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: this voting block I'm talking about. I don't care if
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: it's 10,000, 20,000, 30,000. What we're looking for 100,000. Our
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: slogan is.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: We're an army of faith.
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: The power of 100,000 souls to the polls. I'm doing
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: counting right now. I know I talk too much, but
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: I'm doing counting right now. And I see 50,000 votes
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: coming out of the church and I'm asking the church,
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: go get somebody for our 100,000. We wanna be responsible
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: for 100,000 and encourage community to join us in doing that.
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: So it's more than just the candidates for us. It's
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: building a voting block. It's building power in our community
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: to control our local politics.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: Look, you're here because we love listening to you talk,
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: so don't ever be worried about that. I mean, obviously,
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: the challenge in Wisconsin in building that voting block and
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: building that power is that Wisconsin has experienced years of
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: these brazen Republican voter suppression efforts, the voter ID laws.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Obviously, the pandemic complicates things even further.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Are there voter suppression tactics that you're worried about for November.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: Are there ways you're working to fight back? Are there
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: ways we can help you, the listeners to the show?
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: And you know what?
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: That is so important because we need people to understand
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: how important their vote counts. See, because, you know, I
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: always say if your vote didn't count, why are so
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: many people trying to make sure you don't vote?
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I don't understand that.
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: You know, I had one guy, you know, he he
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: posted in one of my on my Facebook page. He
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: said the Democrats are rigging the machines. I was like, man,
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Why would you
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: rig a machine and lose? That's just, you know, I'm
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: I'm I'm. I'm believing that if we could get the
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: word out, because we're trying to light up Milwaukee right now.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: We want people to know when, where, why, how, what.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: We want them to know everything because there's people still.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: Running around here not knowing that there's a vote November 3rd,
• 58:51
  Speaker 8: let alone there's early voting. So we need, you know,
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: we need money. We need to be on TV. We
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: need to be on the radio. We need to be
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: on print. We need to be all over this place
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: right now. And I think we can turn this thing
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: into something that people will really get excited about, because
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: I don't think.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I hate to say this.
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: I don't want to wait for the Democratic Party to
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: come in my community to help me.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I want to be able to help myself.
• 59:17
  Speaker 8: But we need the funds to do it, man, because
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: if we're going to have professional people who know what's
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: going on.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, like you, I'd love to have you in my.
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: Camp to show me how to do these things and
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: do it, you know, efficiently so that, you know, we
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: can get people engaged, get people energized and make sure
• 59:38
  Speaker 8: they understand that the ability that they have to change
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: the world is at their feet right now. Listen, Milwaukee
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: is key. If we come out to vote, we will
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: change the nation and the world. And we will change
• 59:52
  Speaker 8: the politics in this city because if we're successful at this,
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: we could talk about a win. And then we can
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: really talk about that voting block. I could tell him,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: I said, look what we've done. Man, we could build
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: this block right now.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Who's with me?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 8: And I guarantee you that if we have some positive results,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: positive motion in the right direction that we can continue
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 8: to grow. Is it going to happen all in one day? No,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: but we can continue to help our community understand that
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: you do have power. So we need folks to come in.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: We need folks to canvas. We can't knock on doors,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: but we can drop off literature. We can do that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: all over the place. And I think that needs to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: be a groundswell that that that that you know, can
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: catapult our candidates into another direction here in the city,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: a new energy.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: And that's what needs to happen.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: It shouldn't be just about because, you know, Trump is
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: not a good guy. It should be because we have
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: some good people who are going to take his place.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: And besides that, man, we're going to build this voting
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: block so we can make sure that we take some
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 8: other places too, or else they coordinate with us to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: build up our community.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: That's what this should be about.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: And look, I feel like I'm learning from you right now.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, I also, you know, we've had Reverend Barber
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: on this show and I felt, you know, inspired by
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: what he did in North Carolina with Moral Mondays, you know,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: in North Carolina, you know, on both sides of the aisle,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: the faith community has just had incredible success bringing people together,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: organizing them and turning them out around issues, around elections.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: What can the Democratic Party learn from faith leaders like you?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Like, what should we be emulating that we're not doing?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: See, they need to learn how to fight.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: You know, in the Bible, we talk about, you know,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 8: there's a parable, you know, in the Bible that talks
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: about a guy who God is telling him, man, you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: better bring in those, uh, those receipts that I told
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: you to collect. And you better learn how to do
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: it from the world. We need to learn how to
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: do it from these guys who are on the other side.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: And I hate to repeat myself, but we just don't
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: know how to fight. Listen, there's a scorched earth politics
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: here in Wisconsin that Scott Walker perfected. You know, they
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: will burn up anything. They'll burn up anybody. They will
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: sacrifice anything and anybody to keep power and to keep
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: the wind on their side. We need to learn how
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: to work like that. Why are we so nice about everything, man?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm a pastor, and sometimes you just have
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: to give some tough love. Man, we are too nice
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: about our politics, and we just let them run over us, man.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: I believe in turning to other cheeks, but sometimes you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: need to duck and swing yourself. We have to make
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: sure that we get into a position where we get
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: just as vicious about our politics. I'm not saying be
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: mean or immoral. I'm just saying, man, we need to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: strengthen our community to understand that, man, I'm behind you.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: Let's go fight, you know, and people in the church,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: you know, the church is not soft, man. See, People
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: think that the church is salt, man, but the Bible
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: was built.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: On armies, and that's what we are, and that's what
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell folks. Man, don't take us for granted.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: Man, don't think just because I believe in Jesus that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: I'm just going to let you push me around.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: No, that's not going to happen.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: We're going to make sure that we activate the power
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: of God that's in us to build a power.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: In our community, and that's where we are right now, man.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: We have to do that in a way that doesn't,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: you know, discourage folks from working with us. But you
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: got to understand, man, the way they fight is dirty, man.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 8: They don't, you know, they got brass knuckles hitting us
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: in the eye. Man, we can at least win with
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: an open hand or something, man.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: We shouldn't just let them.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: And we should at least duck sometimes. No, but I'm
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 8: really serious about that. We really need to learn how
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: to fight, man.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: And that's what.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Needs to happen.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: We need to learn how to fight and not be
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 8: ashamed of fighting, man. Because listen, man, I'm tired of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: living like this, man. I'm tired of living like this.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: And we need to be able to make a sheer choice.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: And it needs to be an extremely energized choice. I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: ought to be hearing people saying, let's go, let's go.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: But I'm not hearing that. And we need to build that.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: And that's what we need folks to come in. But
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to wait for anybody else to come in. Man,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: we're going to do that right here, right now. Some
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: people are worried about this election. I'm saying, man, we're
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: going to get this vote out. And we're going to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: get the church to do it. And they're going to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 8: go in their communities and do it. And we're going
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: to get some votes. And we're going to make sure
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: that we win. And November 3rd is going to be
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: a win.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: We got to make sure of that. And I'm positive
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: that we can.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: So I just want to say to everybody listening, if
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: that didn't get you fired up, if you're not ready
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: to fight, there's something wrong with you. So rewind the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: interview like a minute and a half, listen again. And
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: then we at Crooked Media, we created this program. It's
• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:13
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: planet live in Wisconsin. But if you have a pitch
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: for folks who haven't adopted a state yet, why is
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: Wisconsin the choice they should make?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: Well, I tell you this. what's happening in Milwaukee. And
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 8: I'm going to repeat this because I don't know if
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: everybody heard me. If we make sure that we get
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: these votes out here, and if we make sure that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 8: we talk to our brothers in Racine and Kenosha and
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 8: Beloit and Madison, because the state is split, we'll make
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 8: the difference. Man, we can change the whole country because
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  Speaker 8: that's What I'm seeing right now, and that's what I've
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  Speaker 8: seen in the past, man, we had a governor's race.
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  Speaker 8: They said that this guy couldn't be beat, but the
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  Speaker 8: state was split. And I told everybody, what's going to
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  Speaker 8: happen here is going to depend on us. Man, we
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  Speaker 8: went to bed that night. And this governor thought he
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  Speaker 8: had won. But after they counted the votes that came
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  Speaker 8: out of our community, it was a devastating loss for him.
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  Speaker 8: And we did that with Souls to the Polls. Those
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  Speaker 8: votes came out of Midtown Shopping Center, where we went
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  Speaker 8: to vote on Sundays for about two Sundays. And we
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  Speaker 8: did that during the week. And I'm telling you, that
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  Speaker 8: that makes a difference. And it's going to make a
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  Speaker 8: difference this time. People are seriously worried about this.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't blame them.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm saying, listen, if we get a little bit
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  Speaker 8: of help here, if we get a little bit of
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  Speaker 8: money here, if we get some other resources, man, we
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  Speaker 8: need enough money to go on TV.
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  Speaker 1: I need to go on TV and say, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: get up out your seats and get yourself.
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  Speaker 8: Together and make sure you go vote. Stop sitting there
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  Speaker 8: letting things happen to you. Let's make things happen for us.
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  Speaker 8: You ought to be tired of people.
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  Speaker 1: Just running you over. I know I am.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm not going to keep living like this. If
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  Speaker 8: I had to go out here and fight by myself,
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  Speaker 8: I will. But if I get people with me, that
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  Speaker 8: means I'm running a revolution, man.
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  Speaker 1: And now we have.
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  Speaker 8: To make sure that people understand that that's our attitude.
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  Speaker 8: And they seem to come along. And they met on
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  Speaker 8: my Facebook page. And these people are excited about what
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  Speaker 8: we're doing. And we need to continue to do that.
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  Speaker 8: for the good of our community and for the good
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  Speaker 8: of everybody, even those who probably don't like us.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be for their good, too.
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  Speaker 6: So I bet everybody listening is now even more hyped
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  Speaker 6: about Souls of the Polls than they are our Adopt-a-State program.
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  Speaker 6: What can they do to help out Souls of the Polls,
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  Speaker 6: the best named organization in politics, by the way, if
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  Speaker 6: they want to support you directly?
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  Speaker 1: Look, man, I wanna thank the Every Last Vote Fund
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  Speaker 1: and Vote Save America. I wanna do that.
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  Speaker 8: And all the people who support you, I wanna make
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  Speaker 8: sure that they understand that the help that they've already
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  Speaker 8: given us is so much appreciated. And I want to
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  Speaker 8: make sure that they understand we still need help. We
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  Speaker 8: still need help here. We still need people coming in
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  Speaker 8: this community. We still need people bringing money and resources
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  Speaker 8: and bringing people from other places to drop off literature
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  Speaker 8: and all those kind of things. We need to light
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  Speaker 8: up Milwaukee. We need to do that in a way
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  Speaker 8: that nobody understands. could miss the opportunity to want to
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  Speaker 8: vote on November 3rd. We wanna make it like, man,
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  Speaker 8: it ain't even cool if you don't vote. That's what
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  Speaker 8: we want to do here. And if you could get
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  Speaker 8: that message out to your folks and they are willing
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  Speaker 8: to help us, man, we really do need the help.
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  Speaker 8: I told you this city will be the difference between
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  Speaker 8: what we have now and the change we can make.
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  Speaker 8: If we don't get out to vote, things will probably
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  Speaker 8: stay the same. But if we do get out to vote,
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  Speaker 8: things are gonna change in a powerful and rapid way.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: Pastor Greg Lewis, thank you for taking our audience to
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  Speaker 6: church for a couple minutes today. I really appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 6: All the work you're doing, I feel more inspired. I
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  Speaker 6: feel like I could run through a brick wall right now.
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  Speaker 6: So thank you for all the work you're doing, truly.
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  Speaker 8: No, thank you, man. All the thanks right now go
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  Speaker 8: right to you because you've given us this opportunity to
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  Speaker 8: talk to.
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  Speaker 1: Folks and the work you've already done, man. That's incredible work.
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  Speaker 8: I just believe that I have a lot of work
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  Speaker 8: to do to catch up with what you've already done, man.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get, I got to get busy, man. Is
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  Speaker 1: this thing over? I got to get back to work.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you again.
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  Speaker 3: I still.
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  Speaker 1: Got about three hours to make calls, man. Let me
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  Speaker 1: get out of here. Yes. All right.
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  Speaker 6: I'll go do some digital organizing myself. Pastor, thank you again.
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  Speaker 6: It was amazing to talk with you. And, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we'll check in with you again soon, I hope.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so much. God bless you.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks to Reverend Greg Lewis. That was fantastic. And thanks
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  Speaker 3: to everyone else for listening. We'll catch up with you
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  Speaker 3: in a few days. Go adopt a state, make some
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  Speaker 3: phone calls, share some pro-Biden content. Let's get this done.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, listen, you know, after lunch, before dinner, sometime in there,
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  Speaker 5: share some pro Biden content.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, find, go, go tweet about his, his plan
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  Speaker 3: for the minimum wage. You know, his, his plan to
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  Speaker 3: lower the Medicare eligibility age to 60 or the climate plan,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: maybe plan to save the planet. That's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: Go share it.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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