Latest / The SME Stream / Kelly Eckhold: Westpac chief economist defends the bank hiking fixed rates
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Brian Bridge got to Wellington because this reaction to west
- 0:04Speaker 1: pank yesterday. West Pac Bank yesterday came out and lifted
- 0:07Speaker 1: their two and five year interest rates by thirty basis points.
- 0:11Speaker 1: And if you've got a mortgage, you'll be watching that closely.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Nichola Willison's shop around.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Wis pack have made that choice. Other banks have not.
- 0:19Speaker 2: And look, I really want to see New Zealanders seeing
- 0:21Speaker 2: that they have some power when it comes to where
- 0:23Speaker 2: they take their mortgage. And don't just look at the
- 0:25Speaker 2: headline rates. Go and hold your bank's feet to the fire.
- 0:28Speaker 2: See if another bank will give you a better rate.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Kelly, you're cold? Is west PAC's chief economist joining me tonight, Kelly,
- 0:33Speaker 1: good evening.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Good evening.
- 0:35Speaker 1: So is this is Westpac the first and the rest
- 0:37Speaker 1: will follow?
- 0:39Speaker 3: Well, we're certainly the first. I assume that the rest
- 0:43Speaker 3: will follow because in the end everybody faces the same
- 0:46Speaker 3: increase in funding costs that's occurred in the last few weeks.
- 0:50Speaker 1: What's driving that the swap rates? What's going on there?
- 0:53Speaker 1: Can you explain it to us? Yeah?
- 0:56Speaker 3: Well, the Reserve Bank was unexpectedly hawkish when they did
- 1:01Speaker 3: their monetary policy statement a few weeks ago. Now, we
- 1:05Speaker 3: kind of expected that they would cut the rate by
- 1:08Speaker 3: twenty five basis points, but we didn't expect them to
- 1:11Speaker 3: call time on the easing cycle. So as a result,
- 1:14Speaker 3: the combination of them basically saying that they saw a
- 1:17Speaker 3: high hurdle for further cuts and then after the market
- 1:21Speaker 3: interest rates started going up when they said that the
- 1:24Speaker 3: market reaction was in line with what they would have expected,
- 1:29Speaker 3: has sort of scared the markets a little bit, I suppose,
- 1:31Speaker 3: and had them thinking about, well, if they're not cutting,
- 1:34Speaker 3: maybe they'll be hiking at some stage, And as a result,
- 1:36Speaker 3: they're really brought forward when they think interest rates will
- 1:39Speaker 3: start to rise.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Zoom. Bank Governor Arna Brennen came out today and said, look,
- 1:44Speaker 1: don't read too much into this. You know, we were
- 1:46Speaker 1: all options are still on the table. Is the marking
- 1:49Speaker 1: going to listen to that?
- 1:51Speaker 2: Well?
- 1:52Speaker 3: I think sometimes the markets do overreact a little bit here,
- 1:56Speaker 3: and I think that probably is what has happened here.
- 1:58Speaker 3: I mean, based on what the Reserve Bank said, there's
- 2:01Speaker 3: not really any good justification for why the two year
- 2:05Speaker 3: and the three year and the five year interst rates
- 2:07Speaker 3: should have gone up by well, it's almost sixty basis points.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Now that wasn't in the Reserve Bank's forecast. But nevertheless,
- 2:14Speaker 3: I think people in the markets got caught surprised by
- 2:18Speaker 3: that change in tone from the Reserve Bank and they
- 2:21Speaker 3: went positioned for it. So sometimes these markets can overshoot.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Kelly, appreciate that update. Thank you, Kelly, you called from Westpac.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Just a note of clarification that he was speaking not
- 2:31Speaker 1: as a spokesperson for the bank obviously, but here airs
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