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- 0:06You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show. Monday morning, fourth day of
- 0:12March. I'm West Thanks for joining me rolling on endo this month of March.
- 0:19This is, by the way, like we're hitting right out about the
- 0:23four year anniversary of I guess when all hell broke loose with COVID. I
- 0:30mean, that's where we are now at about four years later everything we started
- 0:35to get the information earlier in twenty twenty. We were starting to get those
- 0:41little bits of this is what's happening around the world, this is what's happening
- 0:46in Italy. We saw what was happening in Italy and I think France,
- 0:51and there were a few countries, and we were saying, seems to be
- 0:55a little bit more serious than some of the other pandemics were warned about,
- 1:00because we were warned about a bunch of them. There were so many things
- 1:04we were told to be afraid of, and we were told, you know,
- 1:11the killer bees are coming, and then the murder hornets are coming.
- 1:14That was more recent. We were told that avian flu was going to kill
- 1:19us. We were told that mad cow disease was going to be a bigger
- 1:23thing than what it was. And it's not to say that none of these
- 1:26swine flew. It's not to say that none of these things were really a
- 1:30thing. They just didn't have the huge global or even us impact if we
- 1:40want to stick closer to home. So needless to say, at this point,
- 1:45about four years ago, we were just maybe starting to figure out,
- 1:48oh my gosh, this might be more of a thing than any of those
- 1:51other things. And some people never took it overly seriously, some to their
- 1:57detriment. Some came out of it relatively clear. I know some people who
- 2:05avoided following any of the guidelines that were placed in front of them. I
- 2:10know some that followed every single one of them. I know some that followed
- 2:15them and still got sick. I know some of them who did not follow
- 2:19them and died. It's a wild thing to look back on. It's a
- 2:29wild thing to reflect on at this point four years later. And there are
- 2:34a lot of things that I think we learned in the last four years,
- 2:38but the first thing we really have to spend some time looking back on.
- 2:43And I think it's only appropriate that it's the four year anniversary of you know,
- 2:50two weeks to stop the spread, stay home and wipe your groceries off.
- 2:54Wear a mask and gloves when you go to the grocery store. I
- 3:00did all those things. We didn't know. I mean, I can tell
- 3:04you right now, I didn't know. I did every one of those things,
- 3:07every single one of those things. And it's hard to know how many
- 3:13of the things did any good at all. It's easy to sit back and
- 3:17play Monday morning quarterback and say, well, none of that stuff benefited any
- 3:23of us, but you can't prove that. You can't say that it definitely
- 3:29didn't help. The stats on the masks, it's hard to gauge cases of
- 3:34the flu and colds. They were down while people were wearing the masks.
- 3:38You've got countries in Asia that have been wearing masks for various reasons over the
- 3:45years, and I mean, there has to be something positive to it,
- 3:49right I can't say that right now, if I was told tomorrow you need
- 3:54to put a mask on and go outside, that I'd be ready to do
- 3:58that at all. I didn't wear a mask when I was outside at the
- 4:01park. I didn't wear a mask when I was walking in my neighborhood.
- 4:06I didn't do those things, but we definitely were given a list of guidelines
- 4:14to follow. Some of us did, some did not. And you were
- 4:17told, if you don't do it, you're going to kill Grandma. You're
- 4:20going to be the worst person ever if you don't do these things. So
- 4:28kind of trying to follow some kind of guideline and think, well, I
- 4:32don't want to be the guy that's not following it and causes this to be
- 4:35worse. So we really don't know. I mean, we got an idea
- 4:41of what some of those things were and how effective they might have been.
- 4:46We've got an idea of some of the things that we were told that weren't
- 4:50true on both sides. We know that, and I still think we're sorting
- 4:57through what some of those things are. The The main thing that we have
- 5:00to look at, first and foremost before we even spend any time talking about
- 5:03this, is looking back at why was this different than all of those other
- 5:09things? What made this so much worse? Because, like I said,
- 5:15we've been worn before. Watch out, the killer bees are coming. I
- 5:18remember hearing that as a kid and being terrified killer bees, bees that can
- 5:23sting you and kill you. This was like before the movie My Girl came
- 5:28out too, So it was really scary before that and then you saw it,
- 5:31and even more scary when you like, that's a call he calling.
- 5:34Ah. Sorry spoiler alert if you never watched the movie My Girl. So
- 5:42what made it worse? What made it so much worse? I mean,
- 5:46was it that much stronger? Was it that much more dangerous as far as
- 5:53a virus goes? I mean what made it worse? And I think it's
- 5:59pretty clear now four years later that we can look back and say, I
- 6:05think the thing that made it the strongest and the most deadly was the fact
- 6:10that it was an election year. I'm not taking anything away from the fact
- 6:15that it was deadly. A lot of people died. I know people that
- 6:20died, People that I care about died because of COVID. Period. I'm
- 6:26not talking about those cases where they were in a car accident and they later
- 6:29said no, no, they had COVID. I'm not talking about that.
- 6:32I'm talking about people that I care about that had COVID and died from it.
- 6:39Absolutely, it was a deadly virus, not saying that it wasn't.
- 6:43Apparently, even though we didn't get a good experience with it in that regard,
- 6:48and I say a good experience a bad experience. But you know,
- 6:53swine flew also deadly, avian flu also deadly. I guess cow also deadly.
- 7:00All those things deadly. The old regular flew deadly. So the biggest
- 7:10thing that made it have such an impact on our way of life it's the
- 7:15fact that it was an election year, and now we know it was about
- 7:19four years ago. At this point, when people realize we're going to start
- 7:24shutting things down, they're going to start asking people to stay at home for
- 7:28two weeks. What a weird time that was. I feel like the further
- 7:32we get away from it, the more important it is for us to just
- 7:36take a minute and remember it. Remember what it was like when they were
- 7:42telling us you should stay at home for two weeks, don't leave your house.
- 7:46In some parts of the world, they want you to go outside,
- 7:48don't go in your front yard. What a dumb thing to tell people,
- 7:54We're going to prosecute you if you go into your front yard. Idiot,
- 8:00idiotic. No explanation for that makes that less idiotic. So it was at
- 8:05this point before they were telling us all of those things that we were supposed
- 8:09to do to not kill grandma. That we saw our first tweets. Back
- 8:16then it was called Twitter, now it's called x. We saw our first
- 8:20tweets from lobbyists and folks on the left saying this is how we're going to
- 8:24get Trump. This pandemic, this virus, this is how we're going to
- 8:31get him. And those started to pop up from a number of people on
- 8:37the left. Strategists. They saw it as an opportunity and they absolutely pounced
- 8:43on it. We ran through the whole routine of, you know, keep
- 8:48us scared, keep us a little confused, keep us a little off balance.
- 8:52They told us sometimes follow the science, and then sometimes they basically didn't
- 8:56say this, but told us to follow the emotion. They said, follow
- 9:01the science, And when people pointed out what the science was about a pandemic
- 9:03and about a virus, they said, no, no, no, But
- 9:05if you don't do what we say, you're gonna kill grandma. See that's
- 9:09not following the science. That's following the emotion. The science told us that
- 9:16realistically, hurt immunity was going to be the best way to handle it,
- 9:20and it would be moving forward. And that's what they've told us now Oh
- 9:24yeah, heard immunities. Ultimately, why you don't necessarily have to go get
- 9:28a shot? Now what I thought we were gonna have to get a shot
- 9:31every year for the rest of our lives because of this. Eh, it
- 9:35was just things we said at one point, wasn't necessarily following the science.
- 9:39Also, in the spirit of following the science, we had doctor Anthony Fauci
- 9:43who was telling us people questioned me. To question me is to question science.
- 9:50It's the whole nature of science is questioning, isn't it. I mean
- 9:56I'm not a scientist, not at all, even a little bit, but
- 10:00I have an understanding of how it works. It's about a series of questions
- 10:05and you never stop asking them. I host a podcast on every Thursday and
- 10:13it's called Made of Stars and doctor Sean Crusin from the Columbus State University co
- 10:18Cola Space Science Center, and I cover space news. And the number of
- 10:24times, it seems over the past I don't know, like seventeen years we've
- 10:28been doing a radio or podcast of this particular show. The number of times,
- 10:35especially here lately, when Sean comes to me with a story and says,
- 10:39hey, we're going to cover this, cover this today, this is
- 10:41about how they used to think this and now they realize that they've been wrong
- 10:46for a really long time. Now. If someone didn't question it, if
- 10:52someone just said, oh, we're gonna stick with the old thing. It's
- 10:54better to stick with the old thing, then they're not sciencing. So for
- 11:01doctor Fauci to say, questioning me is questioning science. That was one of
- 11:07his greatest hits. There were some others, some of the things like,
- 11:11you know, I didn't know anything about gain of function anything to do with
- 11:15it, blah blah blah. It's a whole run of things. So what
- 11:20is the ultimate thing that we've learned in the last four years. First of
- 11:24foremost, we have to look back to four years ago in the election and
- 11:28know that this was the maybe for the first time that I can recall in
- 11:35my lifetime, that they hated a political candidate so much that they would do
- 11:39anything to get rid of him, to the detriment of citizens, to the
- 11:43detriment of all citizens, to small business owners, to people that were already
- 11:48struggling to get by, people living paycheck to paycheck, people trying to pay
- 11:52back their student loans, people trying to just get to the next day.
- 11:58They didn't care. All that mattered was about seizing power, seizing control from
- 12:05a president that they hated, Still mad at him, still couldn't figure out
- 12:09how he won, Still didn't understand what happened in twenty sixteen. This was
- 12:15supposed to be Hillary's anointing. No one was supposed to stand in her way.
- 12:20They helped him get nominated so that he would be an easy opponent against
- 12:24her. That's the danger in that strategy, isn't it. Sometimes you come
- 12:28in and you say, we're going to get somebody nominated, and they are
- 12:33going to be an easy win for us. Let's do what we can to
- 12:35help them get nominated. Let's get rid of actual like people that are going
- 12:41to be tough to be, like Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio or let's knock
- 12:46them out of here, and then we can just focus on this easy run,
- 12:50not even bother campaigning in the rust belt. We're not got to do
- 12:54that. It's going to be an easy win. And it backfired. How
- 12:58dare he win? He wasn't supposed to win. He was never supposed to
- 13:01win. So the grudge carried on into let's just let's burn it down.
- 13:09Whatever we got to do to win, no matter who it hurts, no
- 13:13matter what we go through, let's just burn it down. So they did.
- 13:18They did, And now we've talked a little bit about this in the
- 13:24past couple of months or so, but as the studies now show, twenty
- 13:31percent of people who were polled said, yeah, we committed some sort of
- 13:35voter fraud in the election. We took advantage of opportunities that were there with
- 13:41mail in ballots and drop boxes. We took advantage of family members who probably
- 13:46weren't going to vote, but a ballot got mailed to their house, so
- 13:50we filled it out for him and scribbled a signature on it and turned it
- 13:52in. We voted in states we didn't live in anymore because they were battleground
- 13:58states. This has happened. They saw an opportunity. They told us four
- 14:03years ago, right about now, this is our chance, this is our
- 14:07opportunity to get rid of him. Was it enough to guarantee the electoral college
- 14:16for Joe Biden? Don't know that we're going to have that outcome. Don't
- 14:20know that we're going to know the answer to that. I don't know that
- 14:22that'll ever be something that we're going to know. I do know that the
- 14:26same people who did the survey ran the numbers, and they said they ran
- 14:31twenty nine scenarios, and three of the scenarios based on the twenty percent of
- 14:39people who admitted to cheating three of the scenarios, Joe Biden wins the presidency
- 14:45twenty six of them, Donald Trump wins the presidency. Certainly suggests there's a
- 14:50possibility that the election was changed. This isn't coming for me, right,
- 14:56This isn't something that I'm coming to you and saying, hey, I'm giving
- 15:03you my thoughts or my opinions. I'm just stating the fact that, yes,
- 15:09studies were done, a survey was done, and this is what the
- 15:15results were. This was all an opportunity that was seized. Hey, this
- 15:22is how we're going to get him. So some states saw the potential for
- 15:26this to be a problem again and they made changes to make it less easy
- 15:33for people to maybe find these little technicalities, these loopholes, ways that they
- 15:37could go in and vote sneaking around. And when they changed them, the
- 15:43left said, ah, they're cheating, they're racist. Jim Crow two point
- 15:46zero happened here in Georgia. Look at that, they're cheating what else do
- 15:52we learn. We learned that when you have kids at home and they need
- 15:56to be at school, a lot of things fall behind. Primarily when they're
- 16:03having school at home, they suffer in their education. They suffer in their
- 16:10social skills when you tell them to wear a mask and cover their face.
- 16:12They suffer from their social interaction with one another. Some kids took a hit
- 16:18on the social thing. Some kids took a hit on their schooling, their
- 16:25grades. Some kids suffered from both, and some kids were just getting started
- 16:32in school and they didn't get that early foundation of this is what school is
- 16:36supposed to be, this is what school is supposed to look like. This
- 16:38is how you're supposed to act. They didn't get that. Some of them
- 16:42suffered in all of these areas. Some kids took a major hit in really
- 16:49key areas, math being one of the biggest eighth grade math was one of
- 16:53the biggest areas that kids suffered. Eighth grade math. As they're getting ready
- 16:59to try to translate into high school, this isn't a good place for people
- 17:03to go into high school being behind in math, that's not a good spot
- 17:10to be in that kids transitioning into junior high to middle school also not a
- 17:15good place to be experiencing any kind of deficiency. But they did. Didn't
- 17:22matter though, because this was about something else, wasn't it. It was
- 17:26about something completely different. Now, were some of the people that were telling
- 17:30us to do these things genuinely just trying to make sure that people survived.
- 17:34Absolutely? Were they using their heart more so than their head? Some of
- 17:40them absolutely were. And I can't tell you that using your head instead of
- 17:45your heart is always the way to go. When people are screaming listen to
- 17:49the science. That should be the very essence of listening to the science screams
- 17:56use your head, not your heart. Right, I'm an advocate that you
- 18:00have to listen to both. I mean, I really believe that. I
- 18:04don't believe you should use your head in your heart when it comes to government.
- 18:10I just think that this should be a pretty easy laid out system of
- 18:15you know, you heard me say it once a thousand times, leave me
- 18:18alone, let me live my life. When I'm hurting someone else, then
- 18:23you step in. That should be it. It should be a pretty easy,
- 18:26cut and dry. You can lay it all out, you know,
- 18:30zero zero one ones. It's pretty it's pretty basic. It's very binary.
- 18:36Am I doing something to hurt someone else? No, well, then leave
- 18:37me alone? Is that person over there doing something to hurt someone else?
- 18:42Leave them alone? So that's where you get into this area of would staying
- 18:48at home stop someone from hurting someone else? And we start looking at that
- 18:52from the perspective of using our heart rather than our head. And in some
- 18:56cases, yeah, you probably did need to use your heart a little bit.
- 19:00But what we've learned is they'll do anything to control power. What we've
- 19:07learned is sometimes listening to the science doesn't really mean listening to the science.
- 19:14I got some other examples too. It involves who's swimming in races against girls
- 19:19and what their original birth sex was, and all those sorts of things.
- 19:23That's one of those cases where you're told don't listen to the science, that
- 19:27you're told to listen to your heart, not your head. We're also it's
- 19:32pretty evident that not trusting science, or in some cases, not trusting medicine,
- 19:37in some cases, not trusting still the media more so than ever,
- 19:41not trusting folks in our government. All of those things really have the light
- 19:48shine on it, didn't it. Like I said last week, now,
- 19:51if nothing else would this current president. We've had the curtain pulled back on
- 19:56what does a president really do? That's kind of been exposed now, hasn't
- 20:02it. And that's also a byproduct in the last four years we've seen that
- 20:04because of all of this, So happy anniversary to that period where folks on
- 20:10the left were starting to go, hey, this is how we're going to
- 20:12get rid of Trump. Wasn't about, Hey, we're going to try to
- 20:18beat him in an election. Get a candidate that can actually campaign against him,
- 20:22can actually make public appearances, who can actually debate him. Wasn't about
- 20:29that. It was about this is going to be an easier way to do
- 20:33this. This is going to be an easier way around it. And now
- 20:38four years later, they think they found another way to get him. They're
- 20:41going to indict him every chance they get. Is it really about what he
- 20:45may or may not have done, or is it just about again, how
- 20:49do we keep him from being president again? Because we still hate him that
- 20:55much. So if we learned anything in the last four years, I guess
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- 24:23dot com More West Carol Morning Show right after the break. So as we're
- 24:36now on the other side of the NFL draft combine, there were a couple
- 24:41things that stood out in one of them was you know, Tom Brady showing
- 24:47that he could now run the forty yard dash faster than he did when he
- 24:51was in the combine, and it was a long time ago. But one
- 24:56of the other things that really jumped off the page is linebacker from Texas Tech
- 25:02Tyler Owens. He says he doesn't believe in space. Yeah, doesn't believe
- 25:10in space, other planets. I guess anything. I don't know. I
- 25:12don't know what he thinks he's looking at in the sky. But he did
- 25:17make the case that the people who believe the Earth is flat do bring up
- 25:21some valid points. In the end, he said that the flat Earth stuff
- 25:26could be real or it couldn't be. I don't know if he ended up
- 25:32coming to the same conclusion about space, but says he doesn't believe in it.
- 25:37So I mean, if you don't believe in it and it can't be
- 25:40real, I guess I don't really know how that works. Speaking of space,
- 25:47the new Adam Sandler movie Space Man not getting great reviews on Netflix.
- 25:53It's based on a novel, and I'm gonna give it a little time before
- 26:00before going to too much spoiler with it. It tries to dive into some
- 26:06heavy topics. It tries to delve into that, and seeing Sandler do drama,
- 26:11I enjoy that. I think when he's done drama in the past,
- 26:12it's been there's usually at least a little comedy in there with it. There
- 26:17really wasn't a whole lot of comedy. I'm not I can't even remember any
- 26:21now that I'm thinking about it. Yeah it was. I mean, I'm
- 26:27not going to absolutely trash it the way a lot of people are. There
- 26:32were things about it I liked, but it's a weird one. Just giving
- 26:36your heads up. It is absolutely a weird one and it's not going to
- 26:40be for everybody. That's the other thing that I think is important to note
- 26:44is that it is absolutely not going to be for everybody, and definitely,
- 26:51based on the reviews, I think that that's also a fair assessment. We
- 26:56know that phones have made pretty significant upgrade aids and changes, and some of
- 27:00those upgrades seem I still don't get the smartphone that is also that folds it's
- 27:08weird. There's that part of me that just thinks it's another thing for it
- 27:12to break. I know some people swear by those things. I mean,
- 27:15they look neat, but I can't imagine that being an investment that I need
- 27:19to make. Well, here's another one that seems even weirder. It's kind
- 27:23of in the same vein. Motorola is working on a rollable phone that will
- 27:27wrap around your wrist. Still a concept, not going to be mass produced
- 27:33anytime soon, but they say their engineers have made pretty significant strides and getting
- 27:37a prototype that works as a regular flat phone and then you can wrap it
- 27:41around your wrist. Again seems strange. I could see the benefits of that
- 27:48being a place to hold your phone, probably better than putting it in your
- 27:52pocket. It's kind of like wearing a watch. I mean, I guess
- 27:56it's kind of a smart watch that's also a phone. I don't know if
- 28:00you're able to use it while it's on your wrist. I guess that would
- 28:03be an interesting concept for it, if you could talk into it while you're
- 28:10wearing it. It looks like a watch when it's wrapped around the arm,
- 28:15at least the prototype that they're showing off, and it has some like it.
- 28:21It curves. You can stand it up all by itself just by kind
- 28:26of bending it into a little kind of upside down question mark shape. I
- 28:29guess so, I mean, I can see where it will have some interest
- 28:37if they can get this thing fully sorted out and actually being mass produced.
- 28:44Finally, according to a new study, marijuana, using it smoking it as
- 28:51little as once a month has some links to a higher risk of heart attack
- 28:55and stroke, with the risks increasing sharply with more frequent use. In the
- 29:00study, people who use marijuana once a week had a three percent increased chance
- 29:04of a heart attack five percent higher risk of stroke. Daily users dealt with
- 29:08much greater risk compared with people who had never used it. Daily weed smokers
- 29:12had a twenty five percent greater chance of suffering a heart attack and a forty
- 29:17two percent higher risk of having a stroke. Keep in mind, we've been
- 29:22getting told for a very long time that it's it's just natural, man,
- 29:27it comes out of the ground. There's nothing bad about it. It's just
- 29:32fine. And you got more and more states that have made it legal,
- 29:36more and more people are smoking it. So I would guess, just based
- 29:41on my daily encounters, as I go out in the public, as I
- 29:45go to the store, as I go to the gym, wherever I go,
- 29:48I would say that it seems that almost every person I encounter is in
- 29:53the twenty five percent greater chance of getting a heart attack and forty two percent
- 29:57risk of having a stroke. It just seems like about you know, at
- 30:00least every other person. It's a lot of them, So just a heads
- 30:06up. There's also the studies that link it using it to schizphrenia and dopamine
- 30:10levels and all that stuff. So just a heads up may not quite be
- 30:15as you can do it, no big deal as people want you to think.
- 30:19That'll do it for this Monday edition of the show. Thanks to our
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