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Club 520 - Matt Barnes on guarding Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul-Blake Griffin Clippers BEEF, Warriors · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Love love yeah, good Now, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's just get straight to it though. Yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we just we just did your part, you
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  Speaker 7: But we left off talking about how Jeff said defense. No,
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  Speaker 7: he said, you don't play What did you say? He
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  Speaker 7: said something like after a while, they just started giving
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  Speaker 7: it to I mat, don't do that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, voter, Yeah it's voter, yeah for sure. But
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  Speaker 5: I was saying Kobe could play defense when he won't.
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  Speaker 7: But see, I only saw a clip, so I might
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  Speaker 7: have missed the context. Yeah, I was like, I mean,
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  Speaker 7: but defense though, play defense? But he made it eleven
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  Speaker 7: times twelve twelve twelve. He was first team, I think.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, when you think of Kobe Bryant,
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  Speaker 5: you don't think him as the best two way player ever.
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  Speaker 5: But literally, his stats say he's the best two way
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  Speaker 5: player ever, is bro And I'm like, you don't think that,
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  Speaker 5: Like you don't think he a better defender than Scottie Pippen,
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  Speaker 5: but the stats say, you know, Award said you're a
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  Speaker 5: better definished.
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  Speaker 7: But also think maybe because the scoring overshadowed with the
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  Speaker 7: kind of work he was putting on defense, you know
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  Speaker 7: what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And I would agree.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, I think younger in his career, as
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  Speaker 7: he was trying to get started, he was more locking
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  Speaker 7: in on D because he had to be you know
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  Speaker 7: what I mean. And I think as the team kind
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  Speaker 7: of became his and he grew, he was still locking
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  Speaker 7: on D. But he went and got people like run
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  Speaker 7: our tests. He went and got people like me, Like
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  Speaker 7: we used to really fight because me and Ron would
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  Speaker 7: take the best players. If the nigga scored two three buckets, sash,
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  Speaker 7: I got him. I got him, so we'd have to
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  Speaker 7: argue with Bro like, now we got it. Bro, you
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  Speaker 7: save all that MG for office and will handle this.
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  Speaker 7: But he was definitely a competitor, uh, someone that just
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  Speaker 7: to see again playing against him for a long time
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  Speaker 7: and then playing on the same team as I mean,
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  Speaker 7: you just got to see a whole other side of
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  Speaker 7: just his dedication and just how sick he was of
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  Speaker 7: trying to be the greatest thing. He used to NB
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  Speaker 7: I gotta get six. It's like I got to be
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  Speaker 7: able to sit at that table with MJ. Like he
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  Speaker 7: was so dead set on being able to get that
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  Speaker 7: one more ring so he could be in that table
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  Speaker 7: in that conversation with MJ. But he was a sicko
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  Speaker 7: when it came to just getting to it daily period.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean he said you couldn't play defense. Ya.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that.
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  Speaker 5: I just say that that had or the best two
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  Speaker 5: way player ever, it just didn't come to my for me.
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  Speaker 3: For Kobe Brown was like the best score one of
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  Speaker 3: the best.
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  Speaker 7: I mean I would put him in MJ is the
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  Speaker 7: probably the best two way players.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, said that? Or who else would you throw in there?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously Scotty was great, but Scotty didn't have
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  Speaker 7: the offense that those guys have. Scotty had great d
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  Speaker 7: but he you know, obviously he could play offense too,
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  Speaker 7: but it wasn't just the numbers that those two had
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  Speaker 7: put up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would say Michael Jordan because but
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  Speaker 5: now that they're doing his stats and stuff. His Stills
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  Speaker 5: was kind of fake or whatever I learn from stop.
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  Speaker 1: You'll start killing me and his ship boy that COVID shot.
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  Speaker 1: The said, well, actually half that ship fake.
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  Speaker 3: I said, it's no way he got that many more assistancy, bro,
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  Speaker 3: that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And Stills too, right, Yeah, John Stockton was crazy.
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  Speaker 7: There should be a little bit of home cooking Kawhi
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  Speaker 7: Leonard is up there too though, two way players. I
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  Speaker 7: just think you don't get enough get to see enough
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  Speaker 7: of him, Like Anthony Davis, you don't get to see
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  Speaker 7: enough of these guys on consistent level. We know, when
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  Speaker 7: they're out there and healthy, they're incredible. They can change games.
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  Speaker 7: Kauhi as one finals MVPs. But just yet the consistency
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  Speaker 7: of being able to be out there, not in night
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  Speaker 7: out when you don't feel it or you're hurt or
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  Speaker 7: whatever the situation be they've got, you know, whether it's
• 7:02
  Speaker 7: too many miles or just injuries that won't allow them
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  Speaker 7: to get through them. It kind of takes to me,
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  Speaker 7: It kind of takes them out of those conversations because
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  Speaker 7: you just don't get to see enough of them.
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  Speaker 1: We decided last week on the Morning Show that Kuh
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  Speaker 1: Leonard is the best NBA player of all time. He's
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  Speaker 1: had the best NBA career of all time. Because what
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  Speaker 1: my boy got going on right now, legendary.
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  Speaker 7: Water, the hustle is cold, they got a plant company
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  Speaker 7: paying them twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Eight no trees in sight, Uncle Hill on the way,
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  Speaker 1: they take a while the balls and Buddy hat Hi bro.
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  Speaker 7: When I asked my team the other day. They're like, man,
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  Speaker 7: that's great journalism because it is life. Don't be safe
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  Speaker 7: like they're trying to blow the top off of ship.
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  Speaker 3: He said the pay type in right, is that nation
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  Speaker 3: though it is?
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  Speaker 2: Or is the journalist just being a great journalist doing
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  Speaker 2: his job to Kawhi Leonard.
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  Speaker 3: You said that ain't game.
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  Speaker 1: The person who worked for that company quote unquote, that's
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  Speaker 5: That's the person that they messed it like. They changed
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  Speaker 1: Come onment they put the American lost one of the
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  Speaker 7: You can tell he still had a little bit of
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  Speaker 7: sugar in that tank.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't take it away. You can't fighting Sometimes just when
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  Speaker 6: They got whoot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who got all the tea though, using that
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  Speaker 2: community got all the tea. So he said that trouble
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  Speaker 2: was coming through the clock. And what you heard that?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Man, you had a crazy career. Man, what's one of
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  Speaker 1: your favorite teams that you played for?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Man, I got to I think the California I'm a
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  Speaker 7: Californian dude. Man grew up in California with u c
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  Speaker 7: So being able to you know, go to u c
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  Speaker 7: l A, play for the Lakers, play for the Clippers.
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  Speaker 3: That was dope.
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  Speaker 7: And then you know when I was with the Clippers,
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  Speaker 7: we were better than the Lakers. You know, that was
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  Speaker 7: that Lob City team, the e CP Jamal Crawford, Blake,
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  Speaker 7: DeAndre JJ we had a team. And then get a
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  Speaker 7: chance to play with Cobe and and Powell and buying
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  Speaker 7: them and that.
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  Speaker 3: Crul and then the Golden State.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we had a crazy we believe run in
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  Speaker 7: two thousand and six, seven eight, and then to go
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  Speaker 7: back the other year before I retired and get a
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  Speaker 7: chance to play with Steph Clay and KD and Dre.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the interesting thing about that team was as
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  Speaker 7: great as they were, is how they took our ship
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  Speaker 7: to the next level and you know, put four rings
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  Speaker 7: on it. They were so fascinated about the way that
• 9:37
  Speaker 7: team got down. What was so and so like, what
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  Speaker 7: was it like when you all went out, like the media,
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  Speaker 7: the fans, the players, It was just like a fascination
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  Speaker 7: about that team that almost became urban legend because if
• 9:46
  Speaker 7: you think about it, all we fucking did was won the.
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  Speaker 3: First round the second round. But that's crazy, have it?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 7: You know that just kind of the mystique in the
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  Speaker 7: ore have grown from it. But you know, I'd probably
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  Speaker 7: say those three teams probably my three favorite.
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  Speaker 3: Now we believe it was so culture. Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 3: That was just culture.
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  Speaker 1: Like that means a lots of the b d Doug
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  Speaker 1: Ak forty seven, Come on, bro.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's history. For us.
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  Speaker 7: That was a bunch of you know, kind of misfits,
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  Speaker 7: so to speak, you know what I mean. I was
• 10:15
  Speaker 7: trying to make the league at the time. You know,
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  Speaker 7: Jack had gotten some shootouts and some trouble in Indie
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  Speaker 7: and he got shipped to our team. Baron was talented
• 10:22
  Speaker 7: but injured. Jay Rich was there but hadn't really had
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  Speaker 7: no help, you know. The way we were able to
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  Speaker 7: kind of just come together us a young Monte Ellis
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  Speaker 7: fresh out of high school, bullet mean, and for us
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  Speaker 7: to kind of just bring it all together in the
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  Speaker 7: last and you know, Jeff, I mean, the season really
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  Speaker 7: could started after All Stars. So for us to put
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  Speaker 7: all that together after All Star and win sixteen out
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  Speaker 7: of twenty two games to make the playoffs, it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a crazy run.
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  Speaker 2: How did you lock in on defense like that? When
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  Speaker 2: did did you come to the league all that time?
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  Speaker 7: I kind of learned because you know, I was a
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  Speaker 7: guard in high school. Then when I went to UCLA,
• 10:56
  Speaker 7: we had back to bath the number one recruiting classes
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  Speaker 7: and super loaded with all McDonald's, all Americans and five stars.
• 11:02
  Speaker 7: So to get on the court, I had to go
• 11:03
  Speaker 7: down and play the power forward and this is like
• 11:05
  Speaker 7: when power forwards are really power forward, So I had.
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  Speaker 3: To kind of move around down there.
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  Speaker 7: And then when I got to the league, I had
• 11:10
  Speaker 7: to move back to guards because that's two thousand and two,
• 11:12
  Speaker 7: so that's when you're really in your position.
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  Speaker 3: One, two and three and.
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  Speaker 7: Four were all very different, right, I mean you threw
• 11:17
  Speaker 7: the ball on the post before you shot. At three,
• 11:20
  Speaker 7: you've got the rebound and throw it to the point guard,
• 11:22
  Speaker 7: so you of course to break the game, which is different.
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  Speaker 5: So it just kind of took me a minute to
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  Speaker 5: kind of readjust and find that. But I just knew
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  Speaker 5: I was a football player of hard so just defensive
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  Speaker 5: and physicality with something that I love. But I you know,
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  Speaker 5: as I kind of started hanging my hat on it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I just felt like I had the greatest
• 11:36
  Speaker 7: job in the world. Every single night, I got to
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  Speaker 7: guard the best player on the other team. So that's
• 11:40
  Speaker 7: mellow one night, Kobe kd Ron, Dwayne Waye, Paul Pierce,
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  Speaker 7: t Mac you know, you know, used to every single
• 11:48
  Speaker 7: night I was guarding that person. So that's you know, obviously, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you want to score twenty or thirty, but I really
• 11:53
  Speaker 7: kind of took that challenge of I know, these guys
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  Speaker 7: are great scores, but you know, I'm gonna make him
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  Speaker 7: earn everything.
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  Speaker 3: So that was just the mentality I went out.
• 12:00
  Speaker 5: I feel like great defenders got the easiest job from
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  Speaker 5: a standpoint, because if you get killed, it's a person
• 12:08
  Speaker 5: you get killed, the best player in the league.
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  Speaker 3: But if you stop them, you look amazing. Praise.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, And that was the thing. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 7: Jeff you is someone that could play offense. I mean
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  Speaker 7: it's really when you get to a certain level, defense
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  Speaker 7: makes a difference.
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  Speaker 5: But motherfucker is so good, gonna make shot at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day. That's all you can do. That's
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  Speaker 5: why I used to be like, I don't care about
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  Speaker 5: going my matchup. Put me, put me on Kyrie. He's
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: gonna get thirty on everybody. But if I make him
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: get twenty one, job, made him work, that's his journey.
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  Speaker 2: I never play, so I can't speak on that.
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  Speaker 5: TJ McConnell, no, disrespected teachers, but he get me thirty?
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  Speaker 5: You look crazy?
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  Speaker 3: Do s Yeah? What work?
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  Speaker 2: Is it true?
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  Speaker 6: If you're doing brod Bro?
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  Speaker 5: We got Tate Louise, he probably had like twelve the
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  Speaker 5: game serious, I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: That was my play game.
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  Speaker 2: When Clay got sixty, that was on bro was it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I did not guard him one possession about defense, Bro,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't guard him that.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't help. I didn't do anything. It's like how
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  Speaker 3: there's no help rules on Steff right, you know, or
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  Speaker 3: or Clay?
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  Speaker 7: But what was it like seeing that and being in
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  Speaker 7: the whether it was on you or not, Like, what
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  Speaker 7: was it like to just see motherfucker that unconscious?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 5: We could I couldn't believe it because like we were
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: only down like fourteen, so we're like when we in
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: the game and coaches like somebody put a fucking hand up,
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: like we are It was like, yeah he got forty two,
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: were like, what the fuck?
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: It's a second quarter? Like what PG was like, I
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: got him.
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: He's like, I don't give fuck got him sixty.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: I was just on there laughing.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: After a while, I just start looking for my stats,
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: so I need fifteen to eight. I was like, Nate,
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: I'm good, take me out, now, get me out now.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Any crazy games you remember playing with them?
• 14:01
  Speaker 7: Now, more against them, because you know that Lob City team.
• 14:04
  Speaker 7: Not that we were big bros, because we never really
• 14:06
  Speaker 7: want anything, but we're kind of the team in the
• 14:07
  Speaker 7: Western Conference. It was kind of open, like we were
• 14:09
  Speaker 7: the last team to beat them in the playoff series.
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: The year that Sterling got banned from the NBA yea
• 14:13
  Speaker 7: ESPEC they went on their run.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: So just kind of see what they were on.
• 14:17
  Speaker 7: The one thing I'll say is like obviously playing against them,
• 14:19
  Speaker 7: them playing with them, Like Draymond was the heart and
• 14:21
  Speaker 7: soul of that team. And I remember, before Steph was
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: even established, when CP was the man. He's like, man,
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: fuck that, Like I'm riding with Steph every day. Steph's
• 14:28
  Speaker 7: the best point guard. And this is before Steph eventually
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: became the best point guard. But I just think his
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: confidence that he had and his toughness allowed those two
• 14:37
  Speaker 7: guys to kind of play a lot freer and they
• 14:42
  Speaker 7: were tough, Bro, they were just when they'd get on
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: a burner and then you throw KD in that mix.
• 14:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, that was probably the biggest cheat code. And
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: and you know, people still talk as that one of
• 14:52
  Speaker 7: the greatest teams were, if not the greatest team, you
• 14:54
  Speaker 7: know ever simple.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably the greatest team of our generation.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I don't see to me a team you're doing.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think no.
• 15:01
  Speaker 7: I don't think no team in history can beat them
• 15:04
  Speaker 7: with that set of rules. If you change the rules
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: and you're going back to the nineties with you know,
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: or the eighties with the Lakers and the hand check
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: and the pace of the game, or Mike's time where
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: you can really play lockdown defense, but with the pace
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: and the inability to really, yeah, put your hands on somebody.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: They got too much scoring, too much.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I think they can be the one Lakers.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Come on, man, thirty, it's gonna put sack and and
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: foull him out. Got you right, No one could guard
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: him on the block.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: Bro, Stephan is gonna put that pick, gonna be in
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: that drought coverage eleven thirties murder.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: They got a glory out there. Freaky Fox ain't.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: The fox.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Take that day, have a long day.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: I respect them. They getting torched, Bro, he's tortured, Bro,
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: I respect him. Think that the pace, the play, that time,
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: the face this up and down and you can blink
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: and they go on eleven nothing run in thirty seconds.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: So it was just they were different.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I've never seen demoralized in basketball like that, Like we've
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: seen m J kill, we've seen bron kill.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: But they, like you said, them runs they will have.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: And just the entire games over there, especially at Oracle
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the crowd yelling you out of the game in two minutes.
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: That's the one thing I remember about Oracle Back and
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: we play. She smell like a dope sack. She smell
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: like a traphouse. That ship that smokes so much sweed
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: in there while we were playing, Bro.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: It was crazy. Even my dad one time while we.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: Were playing, you can see the smoke cloud. You can
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: smell it, but you can see the smoke cloud at
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: the top of the arena because my dad smoked cigarettes.
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: Was like that what you do at halftime. I was
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: going out of the smoke cigarets. They're gonna started smoking weed.
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: So I just pulled my joint out and started smoking
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: weed with him.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I slid damn there.
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: It was cracking and.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: It's got to be the only place in the spot
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: in the city.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: For really.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: We smoked at our coach's house one time after we
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: won that playoff serious with We told a story about
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: this too.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: We won.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: We beat Dallas in game six. Stack and Nelly used
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: to live in the same condo on the lake and
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: Stack was like the middle and Nelly had the whole penhouse.
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: So we went to Jack's house to smoke first, and
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: we went up to Nelly's house to say hi before
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: we was about to hit the streets.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: As soon as he walk.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: In there, Hey, fellas, Woody Heralds is in the back
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: rolling doobies, go smoke with them.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Were like, what the fuck talking about? We went the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: back and smoke.
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: We Woody Herrelson at our coach's house and then we
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: hit the streets. That's a post games right after the game.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: That was right after the game.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, before we hit the real game.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I heard say he didn't even care what happened next.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: No, he checked out, bro checked out. He wanted to
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: beat Dallas so bad.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: We were.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: We were so ready for Dallas. It was crazy, but
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: now motherfucker kicked his feet up after we beat Dallas.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, b d was dynamic to bro the crazy part.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: He had a bad back and the bad and he
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: was still average thirty. I say, if Baron Davis body
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: doesn't give out on him, he's probably easily one of
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: the top five point girls of all time because strength, speed, athleticism,
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: shot making, defense, he'd have a hold of his offensive game.
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: He was locked down on defense. He was big and strong.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: It's one of one of them. You know, before Westbrook
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: and before Derreck Rose, it was Baron dunking on everybody.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I means.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: But his body just gave out. But still, even on
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: on one leg and in a bad back, he was
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: still giving people the fits.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: So you don't even got no excuse talking about your knees.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: He's talking about.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Cook. Ain't nothing in there bone?
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: I played twelve. Yeah, ain't nothing in there that's gone?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Did you heard it? Just beat up? I saw him
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: when I my last yom Milwaukee.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I was gonna keep playing and I was playing this dude,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Jordan or Jordan or I think I can't remember.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I was funny one on one and I heard a pop.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I think I heard my knee.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: He was like, what you ain't doing nothing? Like, yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I think I hurt my knee.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: We went and play the placers. I played on it
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: and then I couldn't do nothing. The next day, I'm like, man,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: they took me to get an MRI and they was like, yeah,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: you need microfracture surgery. I was like, nigga, what I
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: don'tbody do that no more. It was like, basically it's over.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: I was like it's over. It's like, yeah, it's over.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: It was like you can you know, you can rehab
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: and get an I'm cool.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I heard it was cold in football, bro, What made
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: you transition?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I grew up playing football.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was all American leather, the nation touchdowns from
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: the receiving position.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: I just at the time, this is before the Jimmy
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: Grahams and and Antonio Gates and everyone was really crossing over.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And I was six eight, so I didn't really see No.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Six the dudes to see how they was getting hit
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: across the middle of what they would do after. So
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: I was recruited by you know, just as many schools
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: to play football or play both. But just when I
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: went to UCLA, I decided to lock in. I had
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: to work for basketball. Basketball was It wasn't like football
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: was my natural sport. Basketball was something I had to work. So,
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: you know, I just had to start ryan and then
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: find my way.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: How you do that?
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Though, Like being one of the best players in the
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: country and football and just like now I'm cool.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Just longevity.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Like I said, I didn't see, I felt and I
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: don't ever like to disrespect no sport because to be
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: able to make it to the top is you got
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: to be. But you know, I was six eight, you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: thirty nine inch vert ran a four three, seven and seven.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ was the best, could really run out, you
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: So it was and that's why, you know, I just
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: called myself a basketball or football player playing basketball once
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: I'm at the NBA, Like I love physicality. I get
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: out in the lane and finish, you know, like I'm
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: running the route. So it was just really just transitioning
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: that football mindset to a you know, a basketball skill
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: set and ship making it work for fourteen years.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: That's crazy, bro. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Just yeah, I mean, And after I left, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and it was in the league. That's when dudes were
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  Speaker 7: they never played no football at all, were hopping from
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  Speaker 7: you know, Antonio Gates did play no football, hop from
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: you know, the state tournament to the NFL, and other
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  Speaker 7: guys kind of follow suit. But it just wasn't really
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: happening when I came out.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Oh now I understand. Now, this motherfucker foul so hard.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: He was bro his foul he found.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: I just you know, I can't you know, Yeah, I
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: grew up. I was born in nineteen eighty, so when
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: I watched basketball, Bro, I was bad. Like that's when
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: niggas was punching each other and just getting a foul
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: for it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: So you know, when you go to shoot, a floater
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: might try to likewipe from behind, like.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: When he swiped you could.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to take it off, take off.
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: But you know we came from where. You know, you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: if they're gonnaoul him, don't let them get their arms up.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: And then again having a guard cold with all them
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: pump fakes. Once I tried the pump face, I'll just
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: you go get that at the line, Bro, you just
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: you had to find a way to survive, you know
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: what I mean. You had to find a way to
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: survive and make your niche. And you know, once I
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: was able to do that, you know, the career kind
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: of came along with it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Was that the hardest personal for you to guard in
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, I missed him. I missed m J
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: by year.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: So I kind of feel like Kobe's skill set was
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: you know, obviously, you know, you look at Bron's greatness
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: and all time leading scorer and top five and assists
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: and and Kadi's effortless scoring and Tea Max scoring and
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: Paul Pierce are scoring.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: But code was different from.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: A attacking Nothing was preconceived. He would look at you
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: and how you're lined up or how you're swiping at
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: the ball and attack any weakness he saw. So it
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: was just it was, it was always it was more
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: of a mental game than anything with him because he
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: was going to try to destroy you mentally and out
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: thank you the entire game instead of depending on anything else.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the name that you know? People don't mention.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: That's a tough cover you came across.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: I think two guys that I think were good players
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: had the skill sets to be great playing. I don't
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: say that. I'd say this with all due respect, no
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: disrespect intended, But Rudy Gay has so much motherfucking game,
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: and then Jeff Green has so much game, both of them,
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: dudes on both sides of the bar. Maybe this is
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: just nice guys, maybe you know, just nice guys off
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: the rip that if they had a different mentality. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: felt like they could have been. But god, I mean
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I didn't really I didn't really get a chance to
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: see like a I was always guarding the number one.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: Really a chance for someone off the bench to come
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: and cook or you know, obviously played with it against
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: Jamal Crawford and how great he was. But I was
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: always guarding B one. So it wasn't really worried about
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: nobody else because I have my hands well with the one.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You mentioned some killers right there, for sure, I want
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to ask you this question. Obviously you know what I'm saying, Chris,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: all the smoke, all the smoke productions, how does that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: come about?
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: Man, We was smoking at my house today, me and bullshit,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: Me and Jack was smoking in my crib in Berkeley,
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: and we were both I just finished maybe a year
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: out and Jack had finished two years before, and we
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: were doing ESPN in box and enjoying good, good feedback,
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: just like I kind of felt at ESPN. It's Disney,
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: and I've always been an habitual line stepper. I've never
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: really fallen in in line with the Disney protocol. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: I was just thinking, although ESPN was great and I
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: had a great time, there wasn't really who I was.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: So I was just like, let's do a podcast. He's like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: what's a podcast? Like, I don't know, but I know
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: we could drink of smoke. He's like I'm in. And
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: then from there, hey, I speak on a DeMarcus Cousins
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: documentary and the producers like, hey, I heard you want
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: to do a podcast.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Like how you hear that? So I heard.
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: He's like, I want to meet you. I want you
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: to meet my friend Brian Daily at Showtime. He's launching
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: Showtime Digital. It's a basketball platform. I'm like, I don't
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: know what that is, but cool. He flew out from
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: New York. We sat down at the hotel in Santa Monica.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: I pitched him the idea. Initially, they didn't want Jack,
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: they just wanted me, and I'm just like, no, I can't.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: If it's not us, it's not nothing. So he kind
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: of went back and forth with that for a little bit.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: They said, fine, we launched this shit. We didn't really
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: know what it was because again, I probably think Knuckleheads
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: was maybe four to six months before we came out,
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: no one really knew what this space was. There was
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: no bar, there was no there was no scattering report
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: on what was going on. So we just came out
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: and you know, the first season we got sports podcasts
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: of the year, We knocked out all the cal and
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: cow herds and all the old or white dudes that
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: had kind of been dominating the space, and then from
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: there we were off and running.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: So we're there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: I think we're at show Time about three and a
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: half four years, and we started hearing whispers about Paramount
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: was going to come and buy Showtime and they didn't know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: if you know, if the sports side was going to last,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: which was crazy to me because as big as we
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: were at the time and then boxing Showtime Boxing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Was as big as it's been years.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So when we started hearing that, you know, although
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: people started panicking, I'm like, what you know, I was
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: someone too, obviously with being the talent and helping create,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: Like I was also the one in our first couple
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: of years negotiating our deals, so I got to see
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: behind them, behind.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: The curtain and learn the game.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: So you know, when it was time to make it,
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: decisions like let's start our own shit, I launched the company.
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: Told Brian Daley at the time he was figuring out
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: what was going on, I was like you know, once
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: everything clears, you took a chance on us, We owe
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: a lot to you. We got a position for you
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: me stacking in our homewood Julyanni and we launched this
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: thing and we went live as a company the beginning
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: of last year and signed a big deal with DraftKings
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: and a little bit over a year and a half
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: now we're vertical in basketball boxing MMA. We're just launching NFL.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: We're in talks with MLB to be doing some stuff
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: with them. We're doing a political side. So it's just
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: it kind of caught fire. We're doing docs and scripted series.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: So it went from a show to an entire company,
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: like thirty five employees and our own building now and
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: it got real, you know what I mean. We were
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: able to flip, you know, flip a show into an
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: entire company. So it's been it's been a blessing.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I want to say congratulations and all that, by the way,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: because people don't know how hard that is to run
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the podcast. By y'all have turned that to a juggernaut
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: of a business, especially coming to all different sports. That's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: a really hard task. So salute to y'all. Person foremost,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and it was dope too.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we're here to support and watch the fight,
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: but it was beautiful to see like we're here.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: As all the smoke fight. You know.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I got Andre Royd and Roy Jones out there,
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: and then you know, Ick and Barack we got our
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: fighting and in Morning Combat, so we got our fighting side,
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: and then me and Jack were kind of just in here,
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: you know, just to show face and talk a little
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: bit of shit, but really this is us supporting the
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: boxing side of our company. And it's crazy, you know
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: what I mean to think like a podcast or two
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: dudes smoking weed talking shit turned into like a you know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: this will be a couple hundred million dollar company in
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: the next few years.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Man, a couple of hundred million, Ain't that?
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Just always see yourself in some type of media.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Now, bro, to be honest with you, like my first
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: job when I retired because I invested well, so you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: when I when we won the championship with the Warriors,
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: I still had two years left on my deal. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: when I was decided to retire, getting myself a two
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: year window to kind of chill out and figure out
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: what was next, and media was never on the play.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: My first no bullshit, My first real thing I was
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: adamant was about was being the shield for current players
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: smoking weed. So I was flying back and forth meeting
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: with the PA and meeting with the league about understanding
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: this plan, studying this plant. You guys are pumping the
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: full of these pills that are masking one thing and
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: call it causing long term effects, and you're killing people's
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: career because we smoked, Like you guys got to really
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: start taking a look at that. So you know, we
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: pushed that line for a couple of years and you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: come come bubble time, they stopped testing and then ship
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: they haven't tested since. So that was kind of like
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: my first mission as a former player myself and shout
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: out to out Hearington.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: My dog over at Viola. Yeah, we were really.
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: Just trying to push the line and waking the NBA up.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: So I like to think that we had a small
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: part to do with that. And then you know, a
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: friend of mine just that you know, you were so
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: well spoken in your interviews, you should start doing media.
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: But you got to think, like my career caught the
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: tail end or the beginning of social media, like with
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: people really speaking up and kind of doing their own thing.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: Like we didn't have an O two, you know, with
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: what the media said was it. So you know, my generation,
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: we didn't really fuck with the media. You know, there
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: was obviously some people respecting you were cool with, but
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of people with hitting agendas and motives
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: and with twist shit, so it was almost like talking
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: to the cops. So I didn't really fuck with the media,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: but my friends, just like if you don't like it,
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: helped change it. Yeah, I can't change this ship. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: there was obviously are already athletes in the space. But
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: I think when we were able to come in, show
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: our face on the networks, but then cross over and
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: go to this digital side and just start talking real shit,
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize that we were inspiring everyone else to
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: be like damn, because we were you know, we were
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: both I mean, obviously Jackie put the ball in the
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: basket better than me, but we were role player journeyman,
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So I feel like if
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: we could do it, that would inspire anyone else to
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: be able to do it. And I didn't think that
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: it would have the following and the appreciation and then
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: just the almost the crowdedness of this space now. So yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: you know, we put our head down and went.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: To work in a small amount of time. You say,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: it's almost an initial situation. Now then we're become a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: standard that people didn't have to try. They feel like
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: they have to tap into.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: What's the new way people get their media? Yeah, I
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: mean I was talking to you know, Big Boy. I
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: don't know if you guys aren't from a big boy
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: Big Boy to do radio due I did his show
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: the other day and he was just talking about how,
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: you know, these companies used to pour into radio and
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: this is how they got there. But he's just like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: the money's not there, no more, the money's here. You know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: we're alltho, we're former athletes or whatever, like we're influencers
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: for these brands and they're ready to give you know,
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: whatever they feel you can bring back to them, you
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: know what I mean. So it's just it's a crazy
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: open space and I don't look at nobody in whether
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: it's basketball or sports in general. I don't look at
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: no one's competition because I feel like we all have
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: our different journeys and experiences and in ways to tell
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: them stories that that that we've been through. That to me,
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: it's just to me, it's more. I'm a fan now,
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: So I much rather hear Jeff and y'all speak than
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck how good you are at
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: your job if you've never done it, Like, there's some
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: stuff you're gonna miss and not understand. So I'd rather
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: hear it as a fan. I want to hear from
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: someone who did it. And I think that, you know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: we're fortunate enough to inspire a lot of people to
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: be like, Hey, let's let's go really talk our shit
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: and tell our stories and have fun. And once you
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: get good at this, there's real money in this space,
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: like real money in this space. So I was just like, man,
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: you're gonna pay me basketball money, the smoke weed and
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: talk shit on TV.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Fuck, And that's why some people As a journalist with
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a heavy journalist and background, that's cool. I could watch
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: basketball my entire life, love it. But there's nothing I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: could I'll speak because y'all been in those situations. I've
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: been in those words. I've been in them churches. That's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: experience that you can't speak on and it means a lot.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's I mean, there's some fools that play that
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: can't that don't know shit.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Still that's a fact too.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: But for the most part, there are guys that stand
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: out for you know, being the articulate our thoughts, our
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: feelings and what we've been through.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: And you know you can call those guys out. And
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: the one thing I just don't like those I'm just
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: not a big fan of guys who played that talked
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: the ship like they never played. Like, Bro, you know
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: how tough it is to go through what these dudes
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: are going through or what they did or what's going on,
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: and you act like you've never been in that locker
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: room and you but the fucked up part is they're
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: getting rewarded for it. You talk that reckless, crazy, disrespectful
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: clickbait shit and next thing you know, you got you're
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: on more shows and you're getting more money. And I'm
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: just like, y'all are falling for the bait. That was
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: my one thing when I was with these networks is
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: I would I would never say anything I wouldn't say
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: to somebody's face. You know, they would oh, this is
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: this is the take. I was like, that's not my take.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Like I'm not gonna say that, like this is why
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: I'll break, this is how I'm gonna say it. But
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: they always kind of wanted because you know, unfortunately like
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: drama cells, disrespect cells, you know what I mean, And
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: it's it's the more clicks. But to me, I'd rather
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: get the clicks from just giving you some real shit
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: or having an authentic conversation and trying to trick you
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: into saying some dumb shit that's gonna go viral.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I agree. I mean I don't really know if no
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: athletes doing that. Yeah, no more than me, but I
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people, but what I'm saying
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: just in general, even outside of the athletes, people do
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: for that quick click.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: Well because it's hard not to. But to me that
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: I don't think there's a ton of longevity in that
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: because when it comes to a time where you can't
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: really just speak on the dumb shit, you have to
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: like speak to what you know, what are you gonna
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: do that?
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: You know, me and Mack can relate. Man, he got
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: a jeft T championship. What's that? We were just on
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, absolutely, No.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: I told I told my story, Like my whole thing
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: was too, so that that year was crazy. So I
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: was in Sack to start that year and just thought,
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: that's my hometown. I thought I was gonna you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: I got a three year deal, they's got a new arena,
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: maybe helped get this team to the playoffs. I've a
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: long time like he was like the fuck out that being.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: And then the funny part was that whole season, Bro,
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: I was like the boogiey whisper, like anything about the
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: Marcus cousin, from the owner to management to the coaches,
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: go tell to Marcus this fuck y'all y'all don't want
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: to tell him. I'm scared, like you know, but they
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: was really tiptoeing around Bro, and you know that was
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: that's my that's my little big homie. And uh so
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: I would kind of relay messages and as we're getting
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: towards I want to say, like heading towards the All
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: Star Bravery maybe two three games out of the A spot,
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: thinking like, okay, let's make a cool run and maybe
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: make the playoffs. They trade this nigga while he's on
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: the podium at All Star. I remember that in New
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: Orleans post game, and they were telling the whole time, no.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: You're good, You're not going to work.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: Make sure the Marcus knows he's he's he's a king
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: for life. And I'm you know, I'm in the snow
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: smoking one watching ship. Next thing I know, de Marcus
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: Cousins traded. I was like, what the fuck? So, you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: I called management and yeah, you know we're gonna start over.
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: I'm like, this has been a been a start over franchise.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: What we're talking about.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: I was, so, you know, I just like, I'm too
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: old to start over. You know, I'm thirty six at
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: the time. It's like, what do you want to do.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I was like, I want to go to a good team. So,
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: you know, we worked my situation out, and you know
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: they wouldn't right. At the same time, Unforced KD went
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: down with the hyper extended knee and I went from
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: Sack to Golden State and I was playing the playing
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: good like my first game. You know, played twenty twenty
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: five minutes for that team. So I was consistently in
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: the rotation. The game KD comes to. Kd's out for
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: like two months. The game KD comes back. The first
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: game back, bro, I want to say I start off
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: good to hit my first two threes and come down
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: on someone's foot in It's the worst brand ink on
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: my career, like swollen, even has my legs swollen. I'm like,
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: what the fuck. So by the time I'm feeling any
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: we're maybe about a week or two hour from the
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: playoffs to fund. By the time I'm feeling halfway decent,
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: We're already in the Western Conference finals and having lost
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: the game. So I'm just like, as a vet, I
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: know how tight playoff rotation is getting you go with
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: what's working. So they're not going to bring someone like
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: me who's been hurt for this long and fuck up
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: the flow of the game. So I just kind of
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: it was hard for me because I felt like I
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: fought my whole career to be in that position, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: before I was hurt, I was contributing to that team.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: But once the playoff came and I hurt, you know,
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: I just kind of turned into a fan and you
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: know helped, you know, helped Draymond through some tough times,
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: you know, helped Clay through some tough times. It was
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: just kind of just a super vet for those guys.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: But yeah, like I didn't even so they had a
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: special I missed the ring ceremony the fall in you.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: So they had a special ring ceremony for me. But
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: I got the ring. I got my son's rings, and
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: then I put the ring in a in a room
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: at the arena so I could watch the game. And
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: then we bounced early and I forgot about the ring
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: and I just wasn't really to the same, like I
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: don't count that, you know, I didn't count that shit,
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean? So next with your rings here,
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: I was like, okay, I'll be And I wasn't even
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: really living in the city at the time. I was
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: in La Alas. I'll find out a way if I
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: want to say. They had that motherfucker for like two
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: and a half years. And then one day they they
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: surprised me on NBA today on ESPN and and brought
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: like someone drove the ring from the bay to la
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: and gave it to me. If not that motherfucker probably
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: still be in that room.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I at at Oracle Arena.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I took mine. Where you got that motherfucker?
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Now it's just sitting in the house. That's I didn't
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: go to the ceremony. Yeah, just sitting in the house.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: He drove somebody drove up from Milwaukee to Indiana.
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just felt like I had man, I had
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: to I was course, I had to watch one of
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: the greatest teams, and you know, the battles with Cleveland
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: and seeing them boys first hand. It was just I
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: was I was great seats and I had in that
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: I have to pay for him.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: That's how I feel. I ain't gonna allowed to talking ship.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: We cooked Brooklyn over there.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah it's over I got too much. Boy, ain't gonna
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: do nothing with them. They like, if you don't take
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: your heads.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Home, it's over with. In Milwaukee.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they couldn't wait for my ass to get out
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: of there. We want to tip shock like I did
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: some ship.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: All this hardwork.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Was like that. What how good was some Clippers teams?
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Man want to talk to you about I think that
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: we were all own worst enemies. Bro.
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: We were fifty five plus winscific Division champs, facts again
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: beating the Warriors before they really kind of found their
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: rhythm as a young team. Our superstars is but it heads,
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: you know, and Blake and CP had the best chemistry
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: in the world at times and then didn't see eye
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: to eye at times, and then at the same time
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: it's the emergency of DeAndre Jordan where he's starting to
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: become a you know, yeah, fringe All Star player, defensive
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Player of the Year, Olympic player, so he's kind of
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: growing into his own and it was just I felt
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: like there was too many cooks in the kitchen. And
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: then Doc was supposed to be the guy that was
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: supposed to save everything, and then he brought his son over,
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: and it was just some weird energy there, you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: where a lot of he paid his son. I'm not
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: even mad if I was in a position I paid
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: the fuck out of my son too, But understand at
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: the time what that did to people.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was making more than me.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: Jamal JJ, like guys that were putting in real minutes,
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: you know and playing in crunch time, and it kind of,
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: without knowing, kind of had people looking at him. Funny.
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: It wasn't even his fault. You know, obviously ship out.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: If someone's gonna give me thirty five min I'm gonna
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: take that motherfucker, especially.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: With my dad.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: So but it just did Doc coming over, you know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: Doc want to say, Doc was the first coach of
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: ever traded for like we Clippers traded for Doc.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: And great motivation guy, great to make you believe you.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: Know, blue waters Purple like great speaker, but just there
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: was something missing there with him and in our in
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: game adjustments. And then when the sun came the energy
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: with that, like, guys weren't really off that. So there's
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: just too much bullshit, mental bullshit that we couldn't get
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: over the hurdle. But when we were clicking and playing,
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: there wasn't a better team in the NBA than us
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: for the hell super deep. I mean, you got think
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: we have you know, our CP JJ ME or Kron
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Butler at the three, Blake and DJ. Then we had
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: Lamar Odom, we had Eric bledsoe b Man had you
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: had a lot of shit, Ronnie Urry off, Spencer Hall's
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: coming off of Fresh pay Day, he had game stretched
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: the floor like we just had a lot of big
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: Baby Davis.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: We had a lot of hell in the same locker room.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have some sugaring.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: I was supposed to wine.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: That one of the coolest dudes I have to god
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: ever invented. Lamar is so cool.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: He was always just the one that was just so
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: with the flow.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: Every city where there's a Limo downstairs going to the club,
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: whoever wanted to get in happy and yeah, just that dude.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Lamar was so cool, bro, so talented, a great super
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: talent his size and skill set. I played with l
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: O with the Lakers and with the Clippers. He was
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: a really good dude.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: I'm glad that he's kind of getting back on the
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: feed and finding his way because he was a great dude.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta get the Foster episode just for.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: He was talking about grills. Yeah, that's number one.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I got a lot to talk about. Was your favorite
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: player though, Llo was? It was cold bro was before
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: his time.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, I want to ask you how you feel
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: about this Clipper scene they got going into this year.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: It's tough to say, man, because the West is so young.
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: I felt like last season we saw kind of a
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: passing of the torch, you know, and and guys that
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: I played with, you know, the Steps and the Kds
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: and the Brons, like it's it's coming to the end
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: of their run. And these new young boys are hungry
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: and skilled and can run all day in athletics. So
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, I just think the Clippers, you know, Tyler
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: is one of the best minds in the game. That's
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: why his availability is always a question. You know, if
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: he's out there and playing, they got a chance. But
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: you also got to think, okay, see he's still young.
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: And then boys just got paid. And I think Houston
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: had a big off season being able to get a
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: consistent score in KD never did well in gathering folks
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: up Dallas if healthy is going to be a motherfucking problem,
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: and they at the number one pick in Cooper Flags.
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: I just think the West is really deep. I think
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: the winner will come out. I don't know who's going
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: to be. I think the East is going to be
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: a little bit down this year. Obviously would take them
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: out and you know, some other injuries. I don't really
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: believe in the East as much.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Who.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Look back wet, Yeah, we bet. I didn't expect to
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: hear that be talk to me back to playing.
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: Probably Church trade to me is one of the probably
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: the top two most underrated players in the game of
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: twenty five twenty five and he's a double double with
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: twenty five and ten.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Guy, he gets to respect that he deserves. He's playing
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: for a max. Some young boys. It's on a one
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: year deal. So you know you're trying to get paid
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: again from Boston. Yeah, okay, you gotta stay healthy though.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, he gone contract. You're gonna he's gonna play
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: sixty plus games this year. Contract?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, what man? No contract? You're everybody healthy.
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: Everyone everyone gets through them pains that will keep you
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: out if you're not on the contract.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson, he's gonna be talent young Zachmen playing well
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: in euro Basket.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think we got a right future, man.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I think it's our time.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: One of the best developmental teams in the league.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Y'all trying to do what though, we're gonna make it
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: to the chip. We're gonna win to East.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: No, if they make it to the finals tournament Hawks.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I was about to say, you to talk about the
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: turn minutes in Vegas and no, No, they'll.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Be back here in season. Make when they go to
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the finals. Yoall we're gonna say, of course I am
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: in that one section.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I told you. Then Dominique Jersey is still wet.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Fs. He popped up next next thing, you know, his
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: nose started bleeding down.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: The saying somewhere God, bro. He said, Damn, you didn't
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: you got bad love with him? What we all talk
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: he talked about, this is sweet.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: There looking down.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: My promise, bro, and nobody look super little BROI left
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and half that's that Jeff t know what's so crazy?
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I love telling the story. I said, Bro, they hate you.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: They put him on the.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Jeff tis in the building.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Both was like, damn, I know you sitting this close
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: to me, all these people, these two dollars seats. Yeah,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I even know that read.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Chicken wings, beer, had everything.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, man, when you go to the games
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: on you still do? Man, where do you see?
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Man? If I can't sit courtside or a real sweet
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: that's in the first left, I don't believe this.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: That's a good man.
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take it in and stay at the crick
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: and I like to smoke and move around and drink
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: a little bit and enjoy myself. But it's almost I mean,
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: we did it for a job, So going to games
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: now is not fun. It's not I'm not looking for
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: he said, Like again, I'd rather watch it, and if
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: the game is on some bullshit, I'll watch something else,
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: you know, So going to games I have to.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: It's not even spoiled. It's just if I'm gonna go out.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: If I'm not courtseided, I'll be in the sweet But
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: if not, most of the time, I'm just at the
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: crib for sure.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Man, back to that, I wanted to talk about this
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Clippers team though, we kind of because that's that's bullshit.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Actually over there the Clippers scene, if they heard, can
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: they be okay see this in a series?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Yes? So who's there? Who's there?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Five?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: So James Big, Zoo, Bradley Beal, I love Zoo Big.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: That's right. Bill was a good pick up.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: They got a lot to prove though too.
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: Yes, the fact you know a lot of people and
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: I've always been a fan of him, but that you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: you're putting up empty numbers on the losing team.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: And then it was a horrible move to go to
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: a team that three guys that all need the ball
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: in their hands in Phoenix. So I think he's on
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: the like I still got juice in his in his tank,
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: Kawhi's availability.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: I love James. I think James has been able to
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: evolve and adapt his game.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: He could be an eighteen and ten and six guys
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: still and be very effective Zubots is one of the
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: most underrated bigs in the game, and they got some
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: depth with some I think they got a really good team.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: It just depends on their health. I think Kawhi is
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: the key.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: If Kawhi can give you sixty five games, you got
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: a chance to be a top five team in the West.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: You think can affect that locker room in the positive. Yeah,
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: I think, And I think too, And I mean there's
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: you know, I love CP. I'll go to Ward CP
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: every ingle day.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: But I also think that he had to learn how
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: to communicate with this newer generation. I think that was
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: our biggest issue with the Clippers was we come from
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: an old school where they can cust you out and
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: you just got to make it work, you know. So
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: I was kind of the bridge at times when he
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: couldn't get through the Blake or DJ, like, Yo, this
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: is what he's trying to say, but he's not wrong.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: He just don't like his delivery. This was telling you.
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: So I think that he's kind of learned from that
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: and understanding how to work and be a mentor. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: obviously CPS one of the greatest players to ever played
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: this game. So I definitely think that he'll be able
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: to give him solid minutes and also add to just
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: the IQ and then and and helping the young guys
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: through some shit.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they counted Billy aspect.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I think for CP, theory is really gonna help that
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: team because you look at his always young, dumb person,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: all the young talent, you look at SGA, you look
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: at Dennis, everybody he's been around.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: He's only positive impact, especially for the guard position. Sing
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: for him to be what is that motherfucker sixty? He
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: played with eighty two games last year.
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: Come on, it's a game. So availability is big. You know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: he really takes care and and to me, just some
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: more of a person. Like my twins and his sons
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: are best friends. We lived five minutes away. It was
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: really big for him to be able to get back home.
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: This last handful of years. He's been bouncing outside of California,
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: and it's just you can't take the family every time
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: you move around towards the end of your career. So
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: I knew coming into the season when I've seen him
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: in the summertime, He's like, man, i gotta stay in Cali.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: I'm like, we'll go back to the Clippers, go to
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: the Lakers, So I was glad that it was able
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: to and he's already met you know, said this is
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: last year. I'm so, I'm glad he gets to do
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: it with a team that you know he really put
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: some work in too.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: That's a really underrated thing I would say about your athletes,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: our lifestyles, like especially playing on a road, being away
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: from your film it that's hard mentally for a lot
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: of people, especially as you grow and your kids get older.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: How did you manage that and how's it now? You
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, having a little bit more time
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: to be that's what you know.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: That's what you know.
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: I mentioned earlier and I didn't tell the reason why,
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: but that's what you know. I retired my first year
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: into a three year deal, so you know, I played
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: fourteen years, got paid for sixteen years, but it was
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: because I wasn't getting a chance to see my twins
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: at the time, they were like seven years old. So
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: I wanted to retire. And and it's a great job
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: and it's perks and there's money, but you know, eight
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: months season, we're gone for four and a half of those.
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, once you start having a family and kids,
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: you're missing birthdays and school plays and games and shit
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: you'll never get back, you know. And that's why I
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: felt like, although I didn't get to contribute the way
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: I did, I was just like, damn, I got me
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: a ring. My investments are doing good, I got money
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: in the bank. I it's time to see what was next. Like,
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: although I didn't know what was next, but I knew
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: just being a dad was most important to me next.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: And you know, I got just missed the taking kids
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: to school and coaching them and cooking for them and
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: just being there with them, because again, I was a
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: very present dad while I was playing, but my job
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: took me away a lot of time. So now you know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: my twins are sixteen, shout out the isa in car.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: They just got their license to stay. They are so proud.
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: They all kind of things a little homies got their license.
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: But I got a six year old who looks like
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: he's ten and a one year old. So I get
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: to kind of really start all over and just be
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: there daily and just see the grind and see the growth.
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: So to me, it's the greatest job in the world.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I asked you this about the twins. Do they get
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: their own cars, yeah, or share car.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: Sure, sure, and their mom is their mom is their
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: but she didn't want to pitch in and get a
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: car together.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: So, uh, what's the point that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: So they got a car at their moms grabbing in
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: a car at my house so they could.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: They said, it just sucks being a twin.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Though you're a twin.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Nah, that's a lot of niggas that look like me.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Like maybe I want to slide on some road. Got
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: something to do, like whip? Yeah, with the whip. It's
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of tough.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: You got it over now to like you know what,
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: you know when we come up. I don't know about y'all,
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: but we couldn't wait, I mean forgot. I didn't have
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: a car. I had a bike with a license, Like
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: I just couldn't wait to get my life. But these
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: dudes didn't really It wasn't really because I just used
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: to being driven around or around like it wasn't really
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: pressed it, you know, and they're not really out there
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: in the streets got you know, God blessed for that,
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: but they're not. They weren't really pressed to get their license,
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: but they finally got it. But they love I mean,
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: unless you have twins. Like the dynamic having twins is incredible,
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: Like they're when I tell you, best friends. Like when
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: they were get it's sick, one would go to school
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: because the other one didn't get sick yet, but he
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: would be tripped. The one at home like I need
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: to call and check out my brother, or the one
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: at school would call home sometimes like hey, I was
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: so and so feeling. So that just the dynamic is
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: and it's dope to see. Like, so you have a
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: built in best friend every single day, your dog is
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: with you. You know, I kind of took that shit
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: for granted because they were so easy growing up. Now
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: that I got my six year old, I gotta do
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: everything with that motherfucker. I gotta play video games, swim,
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: play basketball, play soccer, play baseball. Well, I got the
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: one year old on my hip. I'm a single datafore
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: so it's just like I'm shaking and baking. But I'm like, god, damn,
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: I have to do none of this shit with the
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: twins they had each other, but I have with Ashton boy.
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: Motherfucker got me running with the baby on my hip.
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: So it's it's it's it's dope, but it's a lot Man.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: How you like coaching in that AU crazy world?
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: Bro, I enjoy it because I'm teaching. I don't respect
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: the AU system. I think it's a money grab.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: I just saw an article that their kids are playing
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: eighty two one hundred games in the year. It's fucking crazy.
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: Wos why these kids are breaking down? But just a
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: money graph for adults now, you know what I mean?
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: Everything is water down. When we came up. I don't
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: know when you guys started, but when I came into AAU, like,
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: there weren't age levels like when you played AAU, if
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: you're coming as a freshman, you played against the best
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: players in the country. There wasn't no fourteen, fifteen, sixteen
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: like when I was fourteen, I was playing against seventeen
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: eighteen year olds in AAU. So now there's just so
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: many levels and divisions and gold, bronze and silver like
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: it's not It takes away from the kind of the
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: cachet of being an AAU player. And then again, it's
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: not even about developing kids no more. It's about winning games,
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: which is fucking pointless. College coaches don't give a fuck
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: what kind of AU shit you. They want to know,
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: do you know how to play off the ball, and
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: I feel that's what our game lacks as kids understanding.
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: Kids are super skilled now, being able to do all
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: these moves and step backs and triple step backs and
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: the gather and all that shit, but when they don't
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: have the ball in the hand, they standing there like dummies.
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: You know, you don't have to cut flare screen forty
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: five cut. You know they don't know how to do
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: notnh that shit. So to answer your question, I enjoy
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: it because I'm teaching these kids how what they're going
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: to see yet. And I've had my kids since they
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: were eight, so what they're going to see in high school? Now,
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: all these kids are in high school and they're like, damn,
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: coach Man was seating that shit when we was in
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: fourth or fifth grade. And then I'm trying to prepare
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: them now what they're going to see in college and
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: hopefully what they're gonna see in the league. So it's
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: really concepts and understanding spacing and how to play off
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: the ball and how to be on a string on
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: defense and rotating and all that kind of shit. So
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: I love it because I'm teaching. I just wish the
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: rest of the game would be taught.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: And you already talk about that, Jeff, as a hig
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: school coach. You got a real players back in even
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: though they haven't great. You got a really back in
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: for a high school basketball Bring them back to reality.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, nobody's gonna sit there and let you drivele
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: the ball twenty times. Nobody, I mean.
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: And what I don't like is these kids don't watch
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: basketball at highlights or the next morning, and I feel
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: like you missed so much by not seeing what's out there.
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: Like if these kids want to cross over eight times
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: and step back and still have the ball, Like, show
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: me one person that does that in the league. There
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: might be three or four guys that can do that
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: that are allowed to do that. But for the most
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: part that you know, like coach Pop said, a second
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: and a half, if you can't make a decison, then
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: second a half, get the fuck off the ball. Like
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: these kids wouldn't know what to do if they had
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: a second and a half to touch the ball. So
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: it's it, And it's just kind of being able to
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: teach these kids and make them understand man that you know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: it's a delusional space. Social Media's delusional with these mixtapes
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: and highlight tapes and all this shit.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: That you know. And then what do I mean your thoughts?
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: You don't coach at AU, but you see it. I
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: mean these holdbacks.
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: I mean when we were coming up, Like I remember
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: I was in eighth grade walking across the street to
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: play with the varsity team. Yeah, there's kids we were
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: playing against seventeen year old freshmen. Like I was going
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: to UCLA at seventeen, and you're a freshman in high school.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Bro, we'll be doing I don't believe in that. Like
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of our guys are younger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Some of the guys on our high school team they
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: fifteen on their junior year.
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, cause it's going to come a time where you
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: can't run from the smoke. I feel like the adversary
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: is what makes you better. Like all these kids, even
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: if you take it to the college, it's like jumping
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: in the portal. Shit, don't go Ou'm jumping in the portal.
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: Like what happens when you can't run? What happens when
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: you have to sit there and just just just be
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: a man? This damn, I'm not going to play that
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: much this season.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: What am I?
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: How am I going to make my game. What am
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: I going to learn? You don't get no, you don't
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: get no adversity and will power and mental strength when
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: you're just running from the smoke the whole time.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: That's a fact.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Yea, since we talked about that though, like the nil,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: do you think that would have kept you playing football?
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: They came with that chicken?
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I probably would have definitely played, you know, to
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: get two bags, you know, play football and get fucked
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: up for no reason, you know what, hopes of going
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: to the NFL. But you're trying to tell me I
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: could do because you couldn't tell me any. I was
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: in LA too, bro So I remember I used to
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: get my little pale grant twenty five hundred dollars. You
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: couldn't tell me nothing. That's what's been going in like
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: twelve hours. But when I had that little twenty five hundred,
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: like you couldn't. I couldn't imagine having a half a
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: million or a million dollars in Westlewood in LA and
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: no parents at tell you know, don't like But to me, also,
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: does that take away from the grind? Take your foot
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: off the gas, because these kids are getting everything we
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: had to bust our ass to get to the league
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: for like, you couldn't even get it was illegal to
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: get it in college, so we had to brian all
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: the way to get to the league, to get that
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: kind of money. So if you're getting it now in
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: high school, the elites are getting into high school, everybody's
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: getting a colleague. I think it's only natural to take
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: your foot off the gas.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: I think so too.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: That's why I guess I'm not against prep schools. But
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: that's my problem with prep schools, because you're just not
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: that hungry. No more like when you're getting money, we
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: all know that, Like you got your pilgrim. Even when
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: I got my pilgrim, you couldn't tell me, Well, if
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: you getting a million dollars, I don't know who I
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: would have been.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: I would have made it.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Best player in the country. He'd at least got t
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: yeah number yeah, yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: No different time. Man, It's beautiful. I mean, that's why
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: I got four sons. A couple of motherfucker's gonna hit
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: this lottery.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I tell you what, what is like? What is it
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: like coaching your kids? Though?
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Like is it tough?
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: No?
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: Because I don't treat them like my I feel like
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: I do my kids a disservice if I play daddy ball,
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: because I'm not always going to be their coach. So
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: if I'm doing if I'm running extra plays or starting
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: them or giving them all these men like it's not realistic,
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: like they're like everybody else, like the best players that like,
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: whoever has the best rhythm at the time is going
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: to finish the game. And I would try to tell
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: kids too, and Jeff, you know, obviously start is cool.
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: I'm a starter, but the coach who finishes the game
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: is who the trust, coach trust the most. That's who's
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: playing the best. That's who I can trust. And you
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: always want to be a player where when I put
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: you in the game, I know what I'm gonna get
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: from you.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: You can't be a wild card.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: So coaching my kids, it's sometimes it's tough love and
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: sometimes I'm a little tougher on them from a standpoint
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: if I just know that being a former NBA son son,
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: you're gonna get motherfucker that don't like you just for
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: that fact. So you know, there was a time where
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: one twins started one, didn't you know, there's time where
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: they both started. There's both time when they're both playing
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: like shits. They sit right next to me, you know
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: what I mean. So to me, I can't daddy them
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: because I'm not always going to be there to daddy
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: and from a coaching standpoint, I feel like I'll I'll
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: hinder their growth, so they know everything with me is
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: is earned, nothing is given.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: I know that's tough though, having that bullet on your
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: that target on your back, because my guys was gunning
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: for all. After they played them in the Ubu, they
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: called me a sat facetimmy coach. We just beat Matt
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: Bournes and yay to call them. I'm like, you know,
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: you know, y'all, y'all had a really I wasn't surprised
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: that you guys. You guys had a really good We
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: just we We started with the thing in Cali is
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: there's no bigs. We got so many guards, so we're
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: a small art. Motherfucking five man six four, you know
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: what I mean. So it's just like we're super skilled.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: If we're not shooting the ball, we played like the Warriors.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: If we're not shooting the ball, well we're in trouble.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: And we started uh the fourth session before piecing with
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: thirteen guys, we finished our last game with six, like
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: we got one of the twins fractures and like our
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: whole team was hurt.
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: But when we played, y'all was good. Man, it was
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: a good game until the end. You guys pulled away
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: and I think one by like six or seven. Uh,
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: but we're in that bitch the entire time. But you
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: guys that but you guys had size and motherfuckers said
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: was dunking and wiping off the glass and we just
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: didn't have none of that.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: So, like I said, we're gonna make some moves in
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: the portal.
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: I'm already meeting with dad, like this next year their
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: last year and the you you know, it was my
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: last year coaching for a little while until my six
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: year old gets right. So we're gonna go all out.
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: But I love it, man, it's and it's dope too.
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: And Jeff, you know, if you ever pulled up to
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: the turn like it's a reunion all that. There used
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: to be a stigma of black dad, especially the NBA
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: players not being in their kids lives. But with this
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: generation of the dudes that I play with and right
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: behind us, like there's so many involved ads now whether
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: they're coaching, supporting, running programs, but just being present. You'll
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: see twenty five thirty former players at any given tournament
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: and this joke. After we're done playing, we go back
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: and drink some smoke, some chop it up, and just
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: kick it. So it's almost like a reunion for us
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: every time we travel out of state to these tournaments.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Dope is dope.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: You said something really interesting about the highlight factor, and
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I see Adam Silver said this recently. He was just
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: like basically the accessibility some of these games. They was like,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: you know, with all these networks and all things spread out,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: how can kids or people even support their team.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: He's like, you know what, we're light? How light that work?
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: So if you can't watch the game, it's all right.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: He was a problem to be better, And now you're
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: telling these kids catch it on Twitter, Like where's the
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: balance in that? For like the fan base, there's not.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: It's all the money grab.
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: You know that the game, the games is glow mobile
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: as it's ever been, but because there's just new ways
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: to consume it, you know what I mean? Like as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: far as it would be interesting to see like how
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: many people if they did a study actually can even
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: watch a half of game. You know, a lot of
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: people don't just sit there and watch games one because
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: there's just so much other shit going on other games.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: But it's just games are long, and the season is long,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So you got to be
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: a real fan to sit there and watch your team,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: and kids these days don't have the attention span at all.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: I have to make the one thing during the playoffs,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: my twins, sit your motherfucking ass down and we're going watch,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: and they'll sit and watch the games. I have to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: like tell them, come come watch the games, and then
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: they'll be glad they did it. But if I don't
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: tell them, they'll be playing video games or out shooting
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: or doing whatever else. Dad will catch that ship tomorrow.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: I'm like, what do you mean tomorrow? Yeah, we can
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: watch the highlights. I'm like, what the fuck about the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: rest of the game. The highlights of two minutes? The
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: game is forty eight?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: What do you mean now? We don't roblocks?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Dad?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: And what's happening tomorrow? Now theyre on two K with
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Jeff and no draws.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: Did you see how fast our social team put that up?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: I wanted to you, I said, said, and that ship
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: was on social media like eight minutes.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I was getting.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: It was getting I was on Twitter the smoke Best Home.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: We just walked off the stage like this ship never go.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Over. I said, this is nasty. The whole drugs that's
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: out of pocket. Get to take team.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Uniform.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: That's a nasty uniform.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm glad we we kind of just
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: scratched the surface. But we definitely want to have you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: guys come out to l a our studio, but definitely
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: sit down and and and and and do a real
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: show with you guys. I don't watch a ton of podcasts,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: but I do like just your your guys' energy is
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: authentic and you can feel it.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: And you guys can say ship to each other.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: The other motherfuckers saying with me and jack like I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: could talk ship to Jackie to me, the other mother
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: fuckers can't say. You guys have that chemistry where you
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: could talk ship about each other with each other and you.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: Talk me bad, bro, This is how we met. That's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: how we met, bro. He told me, No, that's my
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: brother shoving Mack. He told me shoving back is better
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: than me to my face, that's not that's.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Not how we got got that's how we met.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: So here.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He's a stop fucking line.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Listen, let me get another shot game I had.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: I had a challenge, one the only ones in the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: city with that week. It's back twenty ten. So I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: pulled up this ship music Monday. You know I had
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: a shorty driving my ship.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, crib Yeah. We stayed with THEOD the NBA doing
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: that ship.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: You.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know he was out of pocket.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: You should have been shot.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I pulled up.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: He was just talking about my car because I guess
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a super up one. I had a
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: basically listen.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Man, yeah, I mean he put he pulled up next
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: to me in a basic challenge.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: We weren't cool like that.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: Now, you know what I mean.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I had Pemps blue pulled up, had a little heavy
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: one in the past or something.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Like a little thing.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: At the time, just riding.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: That's my I like think one time that.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: She was she was a lot of hell.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I had the hell care you had a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: basic and you pulled up. I was like this, nigga,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: does he got up you open the door?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: What up? No, nigga, it's a difference put that baby ship.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: That night we started talking, then shoving. Maga Sture came
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: along and then.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: He was like, man, my nigga should sure assiga what?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: And we had a program game and Nigga, I'm locked
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: out shelving crazy. I'm going he looking over here, Shoven
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: don't know right. So every time I score on showing,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: I'm pointing at this niggag he laughing. Sheving like, what's up?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Man? Nigga you said? Oh said sad, Nigga.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: Ain't ship nigga shoving like what? And then she became
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: my guy. He came on the Hawks and we became
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: best friend for sure.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:33
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• 1:04:36
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:43
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• 1:05:00
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