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HR2: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 4 · In the Locker Room presented by Neighborhood Ford Store (Pittsburgh Steelers)

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  Speaker 2: We're trying to ascertain with Justin Norvin. But I said, yes,
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  Speaker 2: you failed the stat bank. Oh yeah, yeah right there,
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  Speaker 2: right there, yeah, yeah right. I could have a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a The only time I saw a CDC
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  Speaker 2: in concert, I saw him with a song with Paul Alexander.
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  Speaker 2: We were at work and we were that was in
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  Speaker 2: our still in our suit and tie days and we
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  Speaker 2: were at Ducane Profession University in our suit and time,
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  Speaker 2: and they were playing over at the arena. We were
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  Speaker 2: in the basketball games. We left the basketball game, hustled down,
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  Speaker 2: didn't miss any of the concert, didn't really oh, this
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  Speaker 2: had to be twenty ten or something. Didn't really know
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  Speaker 2: what to expect at a c DC. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: they give off this image of being this kind of
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  Speaker 2: sloppy party band. I mean, their lead singer died, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Bond Scott, I think, drinking too much or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So they were incredible, unbelievably tight and just I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a fan of a c DC's always
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  Speaker 3: been a fan of a c DC.
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  Speaker 2: But you never know what you're gonna see from somebody live.
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  Speaker 2: Some day, you see somebody live in concert and you're like,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit of a disappointed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the studio album absolutely well, I think a lot
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  Speaker 4: of And then you know, normally we get usually a
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  Speaker 4: preseason game or two where at PNC Park, Right, they
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  Speaker 4: have kind of that kind of ode to the eighties
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  Speaker 4: type of bands that come in and play and play there,
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  Speaker 4: so you know, you kind of see some of the
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  Speaker 4: remnants of the fans of those bands looks worse, but
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  Speaker 4: the band is amazing, Right, I come around out there
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, I'm the same thing I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: T and T was was probably the song that played
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  Speaker 2: in high.
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  Speaker 4: School in the genez That was the that was the
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  Speaker 4: ultimate lifting song, along with like Metallica and of course
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  Speaker 4: you're throwing like Thunderstruck.
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  Speaker 2: And Back in Black.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Back in Black is is still one of those
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  Speaker 4: down dann own Yeah, you know, and and even well
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  Speaker 4: and also the iron Man, right, iron Man, the Flash
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  Speaker 4: iron Man, Well, no, no, no, I'm saying the movie iron Man.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, totally.
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  Speaker 4: They played a c DC throughout that and kind of
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  Speaker 4: gave them a little resurgence because everything was kind of
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  Speaker 4: a c DC themed. On the first Robert Downey Junior,
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  Speaker 4: John Favreau U Crack at the MCU they played the
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  Speaker 4: A C D C was the theme there.
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  Speaker 2: So my wife found somehow an old video. Okay, we'll
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  Speaker 2: get back to foot on a minute, but yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: found an old video of Bond Scott singing I was
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  Speaker 2: it was. He was in a band, in Australian band,
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  Speaker 2: of course, and they did an R and B cover
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  Speaker 2: and he was the lead singer. And you know this
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  Speaker 2: guy who sang T kind of had a sweet voice.
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  Speaker 2: You look at him like, oh, it's clearly Bond Scott.
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  Speaker 2: I was like dance like a voice of It was
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  Speaker 2: like you look at will Farell Stepper. It was like
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  Speaker 2: mixed between Fergie and Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, where's this angelic voice that you hear this kind
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  Speaker 4: of raspy, loud, tweaking voice in ac DC.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have been. It must have been right
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  Speaker 2: before he ate a cart and a sandpaper. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we we talked about this just at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the last segment when you're wrapping up the Ring of Honor,
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  Speaker 2: that we wanted to talk about the tight end position.
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  Speaker 2: And so let's hear first Mike McCarthy talking about Robert
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  Speaker 2: Tanyan from this morning's press conference, a guy who played
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  Speaker 2: for Mike McCarthy and with Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay
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  Speaker 2: at the tight end position. What tracking you to Tanyan
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  Speaker 2: to bring him?
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  Speaker 6: How's he How's he helps some of the young quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 6: He seems to be a security blend with them already.
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  Speaker 7: Roberts a hell of a player. You know, just haven't
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  Speaker 7: been around him as a rookie, so and just I've
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  Speaker 7: always watched his career, you know, after my time with
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  Speaker 7: him in Green Bay. But you know, he's you know
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  Speaker 7: he had it right away. You know, a very instinctive player.
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  Speaker 7: You know, he's very very natural in the past game.
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  Speaker 7: You can see the particularly how he attacks them. You know,
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  Speaker 7: the middle reads, the post routes, you know, the alley routes,
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  Speaker 7: and and you know so much of that is uh
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  Speaker 7: is about, you know, the timing, the body, the body language,
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  Speaker 7: you know, in tune with the clock of the quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: So no, I think we're extremely fortunate to have Robert here, Bobby.
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  Speaker 7: I think the guys like to call him, but he's
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  Speaker 7: you know, he's a really good fit for how we.
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  Speaker 2: Want to play. And that's the big question, how do
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  Speaker 2: you want to play? So last year three tight end sets,
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  Speaker 2: four tight end sets, I believe more, you know, Matt
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  Speaker 2: Williamson's always very good at these kind of things. More
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  Speaker 2: three tight end sets, I believe than any team in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we led the way in thirteen personnel. And I
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  Speaker 4: think for Robert Tanyan, he has a place in this offense.
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  Speaker 4: Right If you are going to run the football, if
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  Speaker 4: you are going to be physical at the point, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to need that veteran. And this is a guy
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  Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy drafted in Green Bay. Of course, you know,
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  Speaker 4: left the team the year after, but like you said,
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  Speaker 4: played with Aaron Rodgers for a number of years after
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  Speaker 4: going into his ninth season here in the NFL, and.
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  Speaker 2: He just brings that sturdy, veteran presence in that room.
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  Speaker 4: I know, listen, I know Pat Friedland's been here five
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  Speaker 4: years going on year six, right, deren Old Washington has
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  Speaker 4: now been here going on his third year. But Robert
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  Speaker 4: Tynan's going on his ninth year. And he is a
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  Speaker 4: football player, and you need those professional guys scattered throughout
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  Speaker 4: your team, and he's another guy that can kind of
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  Speaker 4: read through the minutia. He's been through a Mike McCarthy
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  Speaker 4: training camp, He's played with Aaron, so he.
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  Speaker 2: Has familiarity with Aaron.
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  Speaker 4: And I want to say, I want to say, I
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  Speaker 4: think his last year there up in Green Bay Aaron
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  Speaker 4: or one of Aaron's.
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  Speaker 2: MVP seasons.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Robert Tanian had fifty two catches and eleven
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  Speaker 4: touchdowns with Aaron. So this is a guy who is
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  Speaker 4: a legitimate red zone threat. Maybe not as much as
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  Speaker 4: he was in that year now because he's years older,
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  Speaker 4: had a couple of injuries, but he has that on
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  Speaker 4: his resume he's done it, so maybe he could bring
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  Speaker 4: along even more a Darnel Washington. Maybe he can help
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  Speaker 4: refine a Pat Friarm with a little bit more and
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  Speaker 4: it brings another veteran into that room and gives that
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  Speaker 4: room a little bit more meatiness to that to that
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  Speaker 4: position group and one that you know looks you know
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  Speaker 4: for Allington's purpose is it's a deep group. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think we have what seven tight ends on the
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  Speaker 4: roster right now, so we have a lot of guys there,
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  Speaker 4: but he's one that looks like a guy that fills
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  Speaker 4: in and if you because you're going to carry three
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  Speaker 4: tight ends because you're gonna run in a minimum two
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  Speaker 4: tight ends sets, so you're always gonna need that third guy.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he just he fits thing good with that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he gives you the John new Smith experience level,
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  Speaker 4: but I think he has a little bit more gridience
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  Speaker 4: because I think he's a better you know, down blocker
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  Speaker 4: in a three point stance, so he gives you nice
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  Speaker 4: edge presents for your tackles, but can also run the
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  Speaker 4: entire route tree.
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  Speaker 2: So you know what happened last year with the four
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  Speaker 2: tight ends, that's not gonna happen this year, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: So two guys are gone and by the way, so
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  Speaker 2: eleven personnel, which it would be one tight end. Mike
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  Speaker 2: McCarthy's last year in Dallas, I think they ran in
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  Speaker 2: something like seventy percent of the time, up among the most,
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  Speaker 2: maybe the most, but up among the most in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Steelers did it, I think maybe the.
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  Speaker 4: Least last year, I think thirty percent something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I think, very very low.
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  Speaker 4: It was like us in like Seattle, yeah, or like
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  Speaker 4: the bottom of it was it was an eleven personnel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very low. So and I don't I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the exact figures, but it's it's clearly, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a complete and different change. So you wonder, well, how
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  Speaker 2: are this Steelers going to value the tight end position? Right?
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  Speaker 2: You have Pat Fryerman who was signed to a contract
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  Speaker 2: extension before Mike McCarthy got here, but it's a contract
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  Speaker 2: extension was really underutilized compared to what he had in
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  Speaker 2: his first several seasons. You could pretty much, you know,
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  Speaker 2: know that the male is going to be delivered, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know it's gonna snow around around Christmas and Pat
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  Speaker 2: firom was gonna have sixty catches, right, Well, that didn't
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  Speaker 2: happen last year. No, it didn't. So I think that
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  Speaker 2: you know, how is this position going to be valued? Well,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know. And then they signed Darnolt Washington to
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  Speaker 2: extend to a contract extension. You say, wait a minute, now, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so what does that mean? And don't I don't know?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, what do you think that means? Don't
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  Speaker 2: mean anything other than you just signed a good football
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  Speaker 2: player and you know you're gonna have two tight ends
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  Speaker 2: and they're gonna use utilize them. There's gonna be some
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  Speaker 2: twelve personnel stuff out there, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to say it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be more twelve personnel over thirteen for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't sure.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think you get to the amount of
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  Speaker 4: eleven as he did down in Dallas because I think
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  Speaker 4: your division also dictates what you can and can't do.
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  Speaker 4: And in Dallas, when you look at the NFC East,
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  Speaker 4: it is a lot more spread, It is a lot
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  Speaker 4: more differing style of guys where you need to deploy
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  Speaker 4: three wide receivers around the field because you have such
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  Speaker 4: a good pass rush and the defensive Lineman and the
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  Speaker 4: NFC East.
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  Speaker 2: I think when you come to the AFC North, you
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  Speaker 2: know you you got.
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  Speaker 4: To be able to run that football, right, and twelve
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  Speaker 4: personnel is your best way of getting that.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean we got to fullback on the roster.
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  Speaker 4: So does that look like twenty one personnel over twelve
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  Speaker 4: which means two backs, one tight end, right, But and
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  Speaker 4: twelve personnel one tight end to one running back, two
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  Speaker 4: tight ends, so you know how you get to that,
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  Speaker 4: I think is another way. But you always got to
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  Speaker 4: have a third in that case, if you're going to
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  Speaker 4: use a lot of two tight end sets, you need
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  Speaker 4: to have a third.
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  Speaker 2: One available to you. So that's why I think you
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  Speaker 2: keep three.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't see thirteen personnel being a primary running
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  Speaker 4: group or anything like we ran thirteen out of almost
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  Speaker 4: necessity to be able to move the football. Yes, whereas
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to be a problem here
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  Speaker 4: when you look at the line and you look at
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  Speaker 4: the growth of this and also the emphasis on offense.
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  Speaker 2: And look at the receiver core you have now as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to a year ago, Yeah, completely different. You don't
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  Speaker 2: spend a you know, you don't trade for Michael Pittman
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  Speaker 2: and then spend a second round pick on Jeremy Bernard
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  Speaker 2: and still have Roman Wilson and think we're going to
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  Speaker 2: run a lot of thirteen personnel exactly. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: again we're using a lot of tominisms until we get
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  Speaker 2: our full range of mccarthyisms, yes, but still working on those.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you have red paint, paint the barn red.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I think that Arthur Smith wanted to
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  Speaker 2: play that big personnel, but they also they also went
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  Speaker 2: with what they had. So but then in the off
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  Speaker 2: season Johnny Smith gone, Connor Hayward gone. Those are other
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  Speaker 2: two tight ends and Connor more of an H back
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  Speaker 2: type of guy, could play some in line, but you
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  Speaker 2: really wanted him more of an H back, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: somebody wanted him wing in motion, right field, right, those
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  Speaker 2: sort of things, and you've got to You've drafted a
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  Speaker 2: full back and Rithy Nykowski who might be able to
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  Speaker 2: take some of that role. But you know, you go
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  Speaker 2: from well, we're not going to run a lot of
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  Speaker 2: thirteen personnel. By the same token, you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: have two tight ends on your roster. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: have three tight ends on your roster, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they'll have four. I think they'll have three. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're looking at young guys like JJ Galbreth
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  Speaker 2: who turned some heads last year in camp with his
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  Speaker 2: pass catching ability. You bring in jaem Bell, you're bringing
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  Speaker 2: Lake McCree. Then you're bringing Robert Tanyan, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the feeling is barring injury. Aha, that's the guy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you brought him in at mini camp, so
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  Speaker 4: he wasn't there in OTAs, he wasn't here early free agency.
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  Speaker 4: This was kind of like we looked at what we
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  Speaker 4: had and we needed more. So, yeah, you're right, you think, okay,
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  Speaker 4: if all works out, he stays healthy, things go as planned,
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  Speaker 4: that you add a Robert Tanyanto this group, and that
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  Speaker 4: was the missing piece to round out the tight end
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  Speaker 4: pie of the equation.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and then the other guys maybe, you know, barring
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  Speaker 2: injury again, it's always the caveat of barring injury. You know,
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  Speaker 2: can find themselves maybe in developmental roles. By themselves on
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  Speaker 2: the practice squad. We can make a decent living and
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  Speaker 2: pretty solid living and also develop, yeah, develop into a
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  Speaker 2: player that you know, maybe you're the next Dylan Cook.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you know, James Pierre is a little different. A
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  Speaker 2: veteran guy went in the practice squad, but you know
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  Speaker 2: those are those are and I would think that that
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  Speaker 2: would have to be some motivation and sending for you. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna be disappointed if you don't make this roster.
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  Speaker 2: You know, No, you wouldn't rather be on the practice
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  Speaker 2: squad than the fifty three. Maybe rather be on the
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  Speaker 2: practice squad than have a real job, first of all.
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  Speaker 2: And secondly, that practice squad job could turn into you
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  Speaker 2: being the next Dylan Cook, or you being the next
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  Speaker 2: James Pierre, or an injury happens and you have to
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  Speaker 2: get elevated.
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  Speaker 4: You're already in the system, and then maybe when you
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  Speaker 4: get up you don't move back. That's right, right, So
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  Speaker 4: I mean you just need to create the pathway in
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  Speaker 4: the avenue, right, And I think that's how you kind
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  Speaker 4: of have to look at it at positions like this
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  Speaker 4: where it's a very niche position. Right, there's only three
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  Speaker 4: guys that are going to be on this roster and
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  Speaker 4: there's seven guys in the room. You know, it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you say, don't count the numbers, just play
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  Speaker 4: your game, But at some point you have to be. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: can I be the next Robert Tanya next year?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Can that third tight end?
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  Speaker 4: Or can I be a guy that compliments Pat Fryarmouth
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  Speaker 4: or Darnell Washington?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Can my skills grow a little bit more?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I need to do a little bit more BLOCKI
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  Speaker 4: or maybe I need to get a little bit better
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  Speaker 4: at my route tree and understanding those complications that.
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  Speaker 2: Come with it.
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  Speaker 4: But there's gonna be something that you can glean that
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  Speaker 4: you can do better. And I'd rather do it better
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  Speaker 4: sitting on a practice squad in the classroom every day
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  Speaker 4: with everybody versus trying to figure it out at home
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  Speaker 4: and having, like you said, having.
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  Speaker 2: A clock in every day. Well, the other thing is too,
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  Speaker 2: is that, I mean, take it one step further. If
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  Speaker 2: you're out on this field, you can be the next
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  Speaker 2: James Harrison. You can be the next Willie Parker. You
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  Speaker 2: can be a guy where're like, Okay, you're making the roster.
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  Speaker 2: And of course took James a while, but you're making
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  Speaker 2: the roster because we are you know, we have left
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  Speaker 2: ourselves open to keeping those kinds of players. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about this yesterday that the the you know, you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to play CYA. When you're the Steelers, you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to go to the coaching staff and say, hey, listen, no,
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  Speaker 2: he spent a high draft pick in this kid. Can
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  Speaker 2: you keep him around a little bit? And look, you
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  Speaker 2: always drafted somebody because you believe in him. But maybe
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  Speaker 2: you just the coach who's hired by that gentlem manager says,
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  Speaker 2: okay that for optics, we'll keep that guy, will carry
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  Speaker 2: that guy. And now maybe that undrafted guy doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity. I mean, think about we're talking about Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Honor, you know, think about Willie Parker, right, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't really get the opportunity in North Carolina, and now
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  Speaker 2: he's an undrafted guy on another team. Is he squeezed
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  Speaker 2: off the roster perhaps as opposed to being a Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Honor member like he is and his super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: hero like he is his rookie year, right, he was,
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  Speaker 2: because look who you had in the backfield. You had
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  Speaker 2: jer Own Bettis, you brought over a Duce Daly, and
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  Speaker 2: then you still also had oh gosh from Georgia, one
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  Speaker 2: of my teammates.
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  Speaker 4: Ron Haynes, that was already on there, and we still
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  Speaker 4: carried a fullback. So yeah, Dan Kreider, so righter does
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: the fifth back fit in this he was on practice squad.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: And then what happens the next next year, Hey, we
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: bring jer own back, but Jerome's not going to be
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the feature back because he's older and.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: We need to take some of them.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Let's see what this young, really really fast kid can
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: do from North Carolina that was at the end of
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: the bench.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: He becomes, like you said, the longest rush in Super
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Bowl history.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: From the line of scrimmage right in Willie Parker and
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: he becomes a folk here in a legend here in
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: at Western pas he helps the Steelers get.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: One for the thumb like that.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: But because he was willing to sit there and say
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I could sit back and learn, I'm gonna wait for
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: my opportunity and just continue to chop wood. Your number
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: gets called, like you said, Dylan Cook is a more
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: contemporary version of that as well. And even you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: to put it in a in another sense, a Spencer
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Anderson who came in here as a tackle but was like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I just want to get on the field and sat
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: back and first year was really just trying to learn
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: all these differences, like trying to play four different positions.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: And then last year comes in, Hey, by the way,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: can you snap as well?
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can do that. I can do whatever
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: you tell. Seventh round draft choice Rights becomes.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: A swing guy and a Swiss Army knife and now
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: comes here this year, starting for competing for a starting job.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: And it's got to make you hungry if you are
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: this year's late round draft choice, if you are Eli
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Heidenreich or Robert Spears Jennings or Gabriel Rubio or one
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: of these guys. To know, hey, listen, the door is
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: left open for players to succeed. And look other organizations.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Steelers are the only organization this is,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: but the Steelers do this, and you know what that does.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: That makes you a better organization, That's what it does well.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: And it puts you in a position where you can
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: keep talent exactly and you can grow talent and groom
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: guys and you're not worried about free agency every single year.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I've got to go pull the best player, what's the
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: most shocking name, and make the biggest blockburster deal or trade.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: It's no we got guys in our farm, right, and
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: we'll just go a little bit sidetracked with baseball references, right,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: I would rather pull a guy up from our system
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: in triple A, double A or single A, right, right,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: versus going and trading for somebody in another system and
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: then bringing them over.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: So I think that's where you kind of look at it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: You want to keep as much homegrown talent, drafted talent,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: curated talent within your in your system so that you
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: can grow them in your culture, then your philosophy so
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: when their name is called, they're ready to step on
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: the field and go one hundred percent.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So we're going to dive a little more into the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: tight end situation. I think that some of these discussions
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: are certainly worth having so that fans understand, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the way this is operating and the way this is
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: being done, and the opportunities that are available for these
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: players out here. We're going to talk a little bit
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: more about that tight end position. More things Steer. There's
• 18:49
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• 19:58
  Speaker 2: course are the main event, and then they leave. Then
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: if you but he's still working man, they're still putting
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: their time in. They're cleaning up the cones over here.
• 20:07
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• 20:11
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• 20:14
  Speaker 2: So we're talking about the tight end position. And you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I do think that one of the things that's really
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: interesting is how they're going to utilize Darnell and Pat Fryrenmouth.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: You know, we made the point yet and I think
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Robert Tanyan we all agree, or you and I agree,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that he could step in and do a very credible
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: job for you. You know, there's guys that could step
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: in and you can kind of get through the rest
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of the game with him. He's more than that, you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: he's not just a guy. Well, we got to put
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: him out there fingers crossed. You know, it's better than
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: he can do something. It's better than going over to
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the defensive coach and saying, hey, you got anybody here
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: that played tight end in college. You know, you know
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you don't have to do that. You feel good about
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: what he can do to help you win a game.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: But I do think that in a lot of ways,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and it sounds crass, but it really it just makes
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: sense to follow follow the money, follow what follow the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: draft picks. Follow the money that tells you, you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: follow a trade acquisition, that tells you what a what
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: an organization thinks about a player. They think he's worth
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: excellent amount of money, and therefore you would expect him
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: to be used accordingly. Well, you have a coach now
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: who's probably going to use more twelve personnel maybe than
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: he has in the past, but not as much as
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: maybe another coat now it remains to be seen. Yeah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: but we know nothing yet, right right till the early days,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: you got to follow the money for two tight ends, right,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: so it'll be very interesting. I don't know how they're
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: going to divvy up the snaps. Well, I think, like
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you said, twelve.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Personnel gives you an even snap count, right, right, they're
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: both on the field, they're both on either side, or
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: even if you deploy them in doubles and run a
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: twins with him of some of some sort. But I
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: think what you have to look at is matchup basis. Right,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe you're a little more Darnel Washington front side at
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: the point of tacking divisional play, and maybe you use
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Pat Friremouth more on the backside or split out, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: then when you get to teams that are pretty balanced,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: maybe you have both of them in line and it
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: can be interchangeable and then maybe one you know, based
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: on a play, one has the matchup advantage over the other. Right,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I find very few guys that that Darneld Washington is
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: not overmatch, you.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Know, in a lot of situations.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: But I think but it could be a speed thing, right,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: it could be a speed thing that, Okay, we can't
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: really use Darnell as much, then kind of some some
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: hook and curl stuff.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: In the middle of the field along the hashes.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe this is more Pat Friarmouth game because he's the
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: quicker of the two tight ends, and we want to
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: utilize stuff more in the middle of the field. And
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: maybe we reserved Darnell from more of your red zone
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: packages right where he's that tall, lengthy target that can
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: just go bowling for buzzards right once he gets the
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: ball in his hands. So I think it's just a
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: cool thing that I don't think it's going to be equal,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: but I think it's going to be similar, and that
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: they're looking for the mashup matchup disadvantage on the other team.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Who can I put that can match up better with
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: this linebacker that'll be carrying him, or this nickel that
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: drops down, or this dollar safety like a bunch of
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you know, every defense has a different name for these guys.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe he can, maybe he can beat up this rover.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of how you have to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: look at it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: And Robert Tanya is kind of a nice hybrid between
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: both Pat Fryarmouth and Darneld Washington where accomplished blocker, willing blocker,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: but also has a resume of catching the football and
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: knows how to deploy.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you if you think it's fair
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to say, for fans who haven't seen him play don't
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: know a lot about him, that he's sort of in
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: between those guys, And you just said, you know, that's
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: what you think he is.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: That's what I think he is. I mean because I
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: watched Tanya in play in Green Bay. I had a
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: whole bunch of Green Bay games early in my career
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: as a broadcaster, and so I got to watch Tanya,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: and Tanyan is one of those guys where he was
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: just right at that same time with Travis Kelce and
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: George Kittle and all those guys where you could line
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: him up in the slot and he didn't have to
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: be truly in line, but he could play in line.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: He was kind of one of those He was in
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: that kind of genesis era of the flex tight end, so.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: He fits into that kind of style of play right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And then you know, one of the things about any
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: position group is that, well, not offensive line, you're gonna
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: run five out there. But when you talk about tight
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: end receiver, sometimes you talk about sub packages on defense,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: who are our best guys? And then maybe that dictates
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: a little bit of usage as well. So in the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: past you might in the past the Sooners have been
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: searching for a second wide receiver. Yeah, they've got one.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Michael Pittman's gonna play. You know, Michael Pittman's a good play.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: He's on the field. He's on the field, on the field.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: You know you're gonna see DK Metcalf on the field. Now,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: are they gonna be on there for every snap?
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: No?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Are they gonna get a lot of snaps? Yes, they're
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of snaps. Then you spend a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: second round pick on Jeremy Bernard. Now, I don't know
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: how much this staff feels like that's a projection pick
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: as opposed to a now pick. Hey, we think this
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: guy's gonna be terrific, but we're gonna bring him along
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: slowly or whether hey, he's ready to go. Now, I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: think there was a there was there was some now
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: thoughts about him coming out of college. He's pretty polished,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he's pretty physical, he'll do some things that you like. Now.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: And then there's Roman Wilson, right, So you know, here's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a guy.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I think I've mentioned this before. You know, last last
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: couple of years, we've been talking about a lot about
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: contested catches, and and that's great. You know, I like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: contested catches, you know what, I also like uncontested catches
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: where guys are open. You know that means that means
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you shook a guy out of the right. I kind
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: of want wiggle. I want I like uncontested catch and
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and I think of the group, Roman Wilson is probably,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: you know, for that quick little ability to maybe cause
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: some separation. You know, Mike McCarthy talks about two point
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: three seconds. He's you know, I think DK metcalf can
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: use his speed, but also his size. Pittman can use
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: his size and is savvy. I think Bernard's more that
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: size savvy kind of I don't want to take away
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: their athleticism any of these guys, but the guy with
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the most potential for a little wiggle, it's probably Roman Wilson, right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Wilson and Kayden Legion probably. Yeah, that's right. There's a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: value one two right there. Yeah, that are wiggles.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: And I think it really comes down to big trips
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: little trips, right if I want to have if I
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: go line up Jerom Hubernard, Michael Pittman, and DK Metcalf
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: as my eleven personnel, You're like, holy crap, we don't
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: have enough.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Height right for three of these guys.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: But if I line up Roman Wilson's like, do I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: have enough speed in the slot?
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: It's exactly right? Can I take it advantage of that?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: If I have Kayden legion in the slot? Like, can
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I take advantage of the speed burst? Can I get
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: those quick crossers? Can I get those behind the line
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: of scrimmage motions that then allow you to kind of
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: lose a guy and then he can burn down down
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: the scene or the hash and make a play like.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Those are the things that I think having the option
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: to and I think that's what this wide receiving group
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: presents as options. Yes, I can mix and match based
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: on my personnel, a matchup that will give us an
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: advantage somehow.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: And the other thing I like about it is again
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to be the to be mildly contrarion, but hopefully the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: same way about or you know, a contested uncontested is
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: that sometimes it's just okay to say, Okay, we're gonna
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: we're gonna run big personnelity guys. Okay, well then we'll
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: put our big personnel. Guess you're a big personnel because
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: we think our guys are better. Yeah, because we have
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Pittman and we have Metcalfine, we have Bernard, and we
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: want to have big guys, right, yeah, so we'll go
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: we'll go big on big, sure, or we'll go a
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: little on big, and so it doesn't have to be
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: so match up oriented. You know, when you think about
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the history of the game, and this is one of
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the things that I love. The different trends are so fascinating. Right,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So you get you know, you get the fun bunch
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and you get these small receivers and you're out there
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and the big defensive backs you know, they that you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: have in there to stop it, and they can't keep
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: up with them, right, so what are you doing? So
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: you get little, you get smaller, quicker defensive backs, and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: then some other team goes you know, there's a lot
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of small, quick defensive backs. How about if we go
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: with really big wide receivers, you know, box them out
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and then they now they're overpowering those guys. Now, how
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: do you how do you counter back as a as
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: a defense? And same thing with you know, I think
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you have to give some credit to the Ravens, right,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: you get a lot of the league's dealers are not
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: among them, but a lot of league are going for smaller,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: quicker pass rushers and lighter, lighter into into your linebackers
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to run out there and cover those quick running backs.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And so the Ravens just say, okay, well, then let's
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: just go really big and ram Derrick Henry down at
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: your two hundred and thirty five pound inside linebackers. See
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: how much they like that?
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Come to third or fourth quarter, third fourth quarter when
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: he when he's getting stronger, right, what are you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Going to do? And who was it that? And so
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of teams then try to counter it. Was
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago in the playoffs, somebody came
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: out with a base defense that had seven defensive backs
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and you're thinking, is that gonna work against that big
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and they were too quick for him, and they just
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: shut down Lamar in that running game. So there's another
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: way you counterbounds. It is one of the fascinating things
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the trends, but also the matchups and how are we
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: going to attack it? And I think the Steelers have
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: clearly have more talent at the receiver position, more ways
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: it can attack, and that could certainly affect the tight
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: end position, which also has some of those capabilities. With
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the three guys were projecting or going to be on
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: this roster. Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: And it was a they call it quarter personnel when
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: you go seven defensive backs. Yeah, because you had Nickel
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: diam quarters seven, and there are teams because you did.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: You did have some teams who do have those hybrid
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: starbackers right right where he's still a defensive back when
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: he plays in the box, right, it's that extra safety
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: type of dude, and they'll use that as their four
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: to two Nickel as their base personnel, but he plays
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: a third linebacking position.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of different ways to get to it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: But you're right, I mean, you know, how do you
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: match up? But you want all those options, so I
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: can you know, it's just like going to a buffet.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I just want everything presented and I'll tell you if
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I want the car of roast beef, right, if I
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: want the prime rib?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Or do I want fried chicken today? Right? Or do
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I want the salmon like I want?
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Just but give me all three options, right, don't tell
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: me we're just we're just having chicken for dinner.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Right. I want to know can I mix and match
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: my plate? That's what you want. You want this smorgas
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: board of options.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: So you're trying to find the best players that can
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: give you that versatility throughout the season.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: And then what you also want on defense, just to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: use the defensive side of the ball is when you
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: have Mel Blunt, or you have Joe Green, or you
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: have TJ. Watt. The great players Okay, yeah, I'm stronger
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: than your August and I'm quicker than your quickest and
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to You're not suffing anybody out.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: And no matter what you try, they got the answer
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: because they're singularly great players.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just excellent at what they do, not good,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: not great, they are excellent.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go with smaller defensive backs. Not you, Mel,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: You're still out. No, No, melw stay out there. You
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: don't count.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the rest of the team. Hey, we're
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna go to a small defensive line. Not you, Joe,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: that's right, that you Joe, that's right, Not you skinny
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: in your mind, that's right, that's exactly just in your mind.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: All fun stuff. So no practice tomorrow. Back with well
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you're still here, Max. I will be stepping aside for
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the last segment of this show, but Max will carry
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: on carrying the torch for the locker room. Thank you, Max.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That's right. There's only one can do, Max, Max Travel.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Max has raised his arm, right arm up in the air.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: For those of you listening on radio, the lady radio
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: type of torch. Carry on alright, Olympic tours, don't know Max,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Thanks my friend, talk to you on Monday. Thank you
• 32:06
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• 32:08
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  Speaker 4: All right back inside the locker room here. Max Stark's
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: still on the airways. Rob King has departed, but I
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: went and got a little luck of the Irish for
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: this last segment. Here we got Mick McQuaid, of course
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: everything Steelers and everything in Ireland, and he has the
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Steelers Ireland podcast, correct the Irish Irish Steelers Podcast. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I just I always, I always want to add more
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: letters to it than it than it needs.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But no joining us.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: And you've been here now a couple of days up
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: at training camp here and just kind of give me
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: your thoughts, man, you know, coming up here to Saint Facs.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: You've made it here a couple of times. Just what
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: does it mean to come back every year? Every year
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: and just you know, see this new crop of Steelers.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: You know, I knows is coming on in a few
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: minutes on the channel. But I was sort of saying,
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: I'd love to go back here before practice Annas in
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: August because it's just so fun. There's a really, really
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: good vibe here. I went to a Seahawks and Niners,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: both l A clubs over the last so it's been
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: a bit of a busy schedule. But when you see
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: the difference here on the camaraderie and the fact that
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: like for example, the other day, Justin Herbert gets in
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: the car, Who's home Mafia Stafford who these guys are
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: locked in their income together, they're building the bond. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: don't think you can put a price on that. And
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: then you see, like I was talking to a family
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: today that I haven't made it as theaters game in
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: four or five years. They flew in for this just
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: to see their players. Yeah, and that's very very different. Yes,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: we were talking yesterday. It's gonna be on the podcastinga
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: but the community element of Irish sport, it's very different.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: But it's also so similar as well, and it's awesome.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: On like I would day I would stay here all
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: somewhere if it could. You know, I actually would.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: It's it's phenomenal.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, what we definitely don't want your wife
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: being said like he's having all this fun in America.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: But I think that's the other thing that's kind of
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: like you said, it's a community type.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Of aspect, right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know we're here on a Saturday and
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: the hills are full of fans, and the players are
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: taking the time afterwards to do autographs, and like you said,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: some of your main stars getting the car and leave,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Like Aaron Rodgers is not getting his car and leave,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: He's walking up the hill to Rooney Hall to get
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: in his dorm room.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a different aspect.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: And you know you were around yesterday and you got
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: so you know, you got some good interviews that are
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: gonna be on the pod and everything. But what do
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: you think about as far as like the access to players.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I think that's also another thing that kind of ingratiates
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: players into the community. They're they're about to play for
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: having that type of access. What does that mean for
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: your fan base?
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I think I think the access is big, Like like
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: we literally just came off there now talking to Keanudventon
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: on Nick Herbig as well. We had well with pet
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: and Wilson yesterday as well on Patrick Queen. I'm actually
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: getting to talk to them a wee bit about like
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: you know, the Dublin game last year, but also you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: traveling internationally the pros and cons, but that again as well,
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: you know fans in Ireland, you know Steeters fans and
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: even just general NFL funds that want to learn more
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: about the sport, discussing the fucked up there's not just
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: a new head coach, but really a new regime here
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: and what are the differences between incomes, because that's one
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: thing that people have told me about. You know, the
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: times are different, the regimes are different, but one thing
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: does stay to see them a couple of years coming
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: here and you're talking about the access. When you see
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: those players walk down those steps and you see the kids' faces,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: it's it's something very very special and honestly the genuine
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: you know, care to the players. How there's not there's
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: not one player I've seen the last couple of days
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: it doesn't want to be here. They're locked in and
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: they know they're making a difference as well, but the
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: access has been created and walked past us more than
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: seeing coach mccarfrey and he was all smiles and that's cool,
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: that's crazy. I live in the middle of nowhere and
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: the side of farm, so like you've actually come in
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: here and do that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: It's it's it's incredible.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: No, that is awesome. Well, and talking about Ireland, I mean,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: We're a little less than a year removed from that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: It's like it's like we have to take like a
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: collective moment of silence. And she had, she had a
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: tear drop because that was such a phenomenal trip. And
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: when you think about the Steelers hadn't been abroad since
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: twenty thirteen, and then you get your next international opportunity
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: is of all countries, like the ownership, like their home
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: country and the connection that they have to Ireland, and
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: then to bring a game there, and I know you
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: worked tirelessly for years trying to lobby and trying to
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: get that game there, and then it finally comes there
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: and it was a phenomenal week. It was a phenomenal week.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: And just kind of talk about your experience, like you said,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: you always come here to see the Steelers. Now, the
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Steelers came to see you essentially and to see the
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: people of Ireland. How how was that for you guys?
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: And and there's kind of that week leading up to
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Well, there's sources are in the kit, your change in
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: your name to Maxo Starks.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for the next game in the future.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: It's definitely working on Theirth certificate right now.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: And do you know what like, Look, I appreciate what
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: you're saying there, but I would say I was a
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: speckle of help in comparison to the loss Roney for
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: what heatl and not just for football, but for so
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: many relations between the US and Ireland as well across
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: the island of Ireland. But you know, when you actually
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: come here this year, when it's been done, when it's
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: been said and done, I think you appreciate a lot more.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I know we met up with the draft for a
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: very briefly, but it does hit you here when you
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: know he meets you know, mister Rooney or Don Rooney
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: and you speak to them, and the genuine care they
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: have for the island is it is just phenomenal. But
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: the week itself was I mean, how do you even
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: begin to like I think it was was it that
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: the Patriots was the game before having so I remember
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: watching that game and at the very very end, I
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: was like, well the next game is Ireland, Baby, here
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: we go. And like you imagine people like obviously that
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: are listening are obviously you know, mostly US based listening
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: to this. You imagine if you're hopping on a plane
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: to London for years. I'm not look, it's great, don't
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: get me wrong, but then you can hop on the
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: train and drive done. You're going to a game in
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: like on your island and in in your country, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: it's special. And I know you've probably seen more of
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Ireland than I have. But this terrible tiles, which we'll
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: talk about in the weeks.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Second, but the.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: You know hit me probably before the games started, but
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: that morning when people were walking down the Jones Road
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: to that stadium was very special. And I think it
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: was whenever I'm sure people listening will remember the giant
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: toile came up.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there was.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: A couple of teardrop shed at that moment, but that, man,
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: it was awesome. And you know, obviously we all wanted
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: to be the Steelers, but you get it back man,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: find a way. Let's just play a game there every year,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: and we'll just find a way financially subse. Yeah, exactly.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Just be like the Jacksonville Jaguars, Like you have to
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: go to they have to go to London every we
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: just have to go to Ireland every year, or at
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: least every year we have an extra home game, right,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I'd definitely be up to that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: I would be the man we having the flag at
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: the airport to get boy nice. Even at the airport
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: there was like five hundred people we hitten in the
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: arrivals and obviously the guys could often up the bus,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: but I mean you were down at the training that
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: they had on the friday. Yeah, I've never seen as
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: many journalists at an NFL conference, and I know that
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: the NFL would say this as well. Easily the most
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: successful international game they've had in maybe twenty thirty years.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: So easily phenomenal on day.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: You know, you're obviously gonna spear had the return locks
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I'm here.
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I've definitely already put in my request, like, hey, guys,
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: if if I had, if I had any vote, which
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: I don't, I'm picking Ireland over all the countries.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: I mean like I mean maybe you did, and maybe
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: you give them the wrong city and you give them
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: the French city instead. I think I think a lot
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: of European finds are very very happy and honestly surprise
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: in a positive way that we're getting the naber Johans
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: look to see like Aaron Rodgers I fault when he
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: was in the press conference last year. That would be
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: his lost international one. Yeah, I'm we nicely in new
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: element to the Steeters franchise come over and play in
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: an our historic game and it's it's only ninety minutes whatever.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: People alarm them in the UK, So it's awesome.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: There's a quick, quick, little fright flight there across the
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: pond and uh. And I think that's the other thing
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: is that you know the Steelers are now opening markets
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: internationally because like you said, you bring the first, we
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: bring the first game that's been done in Ireland, Germany
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: and in Germany, and then now we're doing a game
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: in Paris, like opening that market.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Up even though we're they're away team.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: But it's like now we need the Steelers there like
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: like they they their fans carry like like we actually
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: have that following that is already in Europe, but we
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: also bring the American fans over to Europe.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: I think, like it's something that I mentioned there to
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Nick Herbig that I was over in the Ordans on Weddnesday,
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: I nearly died and the heath as an Irishman, that's
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: a different.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Conversation, that's different humidity when you.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Talk to them.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: Obviously he wasn't speaking to Missus Benson, but you knew
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: the pride that they have in their team and the
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: connection that they have to that country. Like I said
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: to Nick Herbig, what an opportunity we have here to
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: go win and win that game because they have to
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: win that game.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, almost like.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: The French creole and everything, like the French culture and
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: the Florida ls that are all around that city, and
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: that attachment, like you said, it's it has an attachment
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: to that country that's synonymous. But once again, the real
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: black and gold versus the fake black and gold. I
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: think it's also cool. So technically, if you're wearing black
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: and gold and that get you're good for either side.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: It's just what tint of gold are you wearing on
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: game day?
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: It's a horrible situation for me. Because the proof is
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: the Steelers.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Are playing in Paris, which is fantastic, but the Steans
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: could have an Irish kicker on as well.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: So it's like, well, you know what, what he can
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: he could score points.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: He just can't win exactly.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: And if he's scoring points, and then the Steels scoring
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: touchdown in squad.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: But I mean I can like, I mean, I can
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: count to tan in French.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: And I know you're starting to, you know, practice your
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: franis yeahuz on the team, Yeah, yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's all I got.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: That's all I got for You're a mess.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: But my friends and then and then way way you
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: said that we we, yeah, party, it is not we,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: even though it's oh u I you would think.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: It would be, it would be we.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be Like the funny thing is that game
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: is gonna fly in and you sort of think to
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: yourself and you look at our schedule like that is
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: gonna be crucial, And it's different this year. There's no
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: body week after that now. So it's it's a big,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: big situation. But it's Look, it's the way that the
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: NFL is going. The teams are gonna be playing every year.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: The Niniers are playing twice what Mexico, Australia.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Australia and Mexico.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, how further apart talking about markets and
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: just distance, are you going to.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Play two international games? It's just it's crazy.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: But I think that's what the NFL wants, right. They
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: want to get to this eighteenth game schedule and they
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: want one game for every team, every team to at
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: least play a game overseas every year. Like that's what
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: the international expansion is. And like I said, having all
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: these markets available is nice. And like I said, if
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: we can plant the Steelers slag in Ireland, is that
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: that's our official home game international? You know, every year
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: we had that extra home game would be a pretty
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: fantastic thing to have.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: For anybody that's listening to this as maybe going to
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Dublin on some point over the season.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Cany's Public, Kennedy's Yes, the station is. And I know
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: we've met in there a couple of times.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Listen, you were wearing the Miami Vice all white suit
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: there in there. Yes, yes, I remember that as I'm
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: behind the bar porn pints, I am.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I am glad to believe that, especially if the vast
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: majority of the early games are going to be all
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: in that bar for any sea there's funds that are
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: in ourt. Wow, sometimes it is difficult to fight, like
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: there's bars that have all the games. But Doxy watched
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: your teams have done. I know the Broncos game is
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: at a very suitable time for us as well. So
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: if you're over in Ireland, it feel free to say
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: hello and it'll be fun this season.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's that is going to be a great time.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: And and I'm just so excited, you know, because I
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: think we've had watched parties over the years, and I
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: think that becomes more of a norm that we will
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: have watch parties. And now we have kind of a
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: home base right with Kennedy's. And I'm sure there's other
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: places that would love to have it, but Kennedy's is
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: one of our official Steeler bars over in Dublin, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: it's just it's just so much fun, like to think
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: about this. And that's the other thing I love is
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: that this is now becoming not just a national game
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: like we say the NFL the National Football League, but
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: it really is feeling more like the International Football League
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: and bringing American football to so many different markets and
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: there's so many fans that are there and well receiving
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: the game of football.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, when I went around the island for that week,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you know, we.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Also passed out flag football kits, yes, sir, well just
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: to get the international planks. Is now an international Olympic sport.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: You know, just think about how far we've come that
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: flag is now an internationally competitive sport on the world
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: stage at the Olympics.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's it's obviously a game ginger here for
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: young kids with a stasially young girls in the US
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: size sport, and obviously women as well. I think in Europe.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: It really does introduce funds to the sport at a
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: very very young age, which is crucial. And to see,
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: like look, just to see it with my eyes first
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: than this is not prdic To actually stand there and
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: see the Steelers create all these different tournaments across the
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: island north, south, east west phenomenal And it was Stashal
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: like Jerome badis is up at one and I think
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: we think we got the bus side and he was
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: he was not shocked, but I think he was just
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: so pleased that he could see the growth from when
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: he played previously to.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, he was there in that exhibition game back
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  Speaker 4: in ninety seven to then see where it's at now,
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  Speaker 4: you know, almost thirty years later. Like that, this is
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  Speaker 4: just the norm versus an outlier. It is pretty fantastic
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  Speaker 4: and and I'm excited. I mean, I'm excited for the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity of this game to grow and like you said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, as a father of two little girls, to
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: know that they have a place in football, it's a
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: specially and now becomes a more inclusive sport because of that.
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  Speaker 4: So it's awesome. We got a lot of stuff coming ahead,
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  Speaker 4: and of course I will, I will see you. We
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  Speaker 4: will be sharing croissants and back gets.
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  Speaker 6: By your begette. I hear you're gonna go on aget.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna do a baget tour at a couple
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  Speaker 4: of blingeries and then I'm gonna have a beret. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just gonna'm fully inundate myself in the
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  Speaker 4: Parisian culture.
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  Speaker 6: Marseille Leon nice yea.
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  Speaker 4: I love Bordeaux wines, so Dunkirk Il de France, you know, Disneyland, Paris.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, wherever I need to go, I will, I
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  Speaker 4: will be there the entire time.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say it.
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  Speaker 5: I have a feeling that you're gonna find a way
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  Speaker 5: to get to Disneyland the Joy not wake for a
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  Speaker 5: couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Ours, So absolutely already know the train route.
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  Speaker 5: Just think, just finally think when they plays and not
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  Speaker 5: seeing hum that's going to be so strange but also
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  Speaker 5: so cool for an NFL game. So I know Steelers
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  Speaker 5: finds listening in the US are going to hot to
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  Speaker 5: get up a little bit early. Yeah, definitely, we're all
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  Speaker 5: toast to the bloody man right that morning when they
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  Speaker 5: win again.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely hair of the Dog. Never heard anybody. Well, thank
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  Speaker 4: you Mick for joining us on this last segment. Really appreciated.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Then thank you all to Steelers Nation for listening to
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: inside the locker room here at training camp at Saint
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Vincent College out in Lake Trow, Pennsylvania. We will be
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: on Monday. We're not on Tomorrow, off day for everybody,
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  Speaker 4: so we'll be back on Pad's Day as we celebrate
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: the clapping of pads on the field on this next show.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: So for Rob King, for Mick McQuaid jumping in with us,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: and of course for all of our guys. They are
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  Speaker 4: back in the studio you've been listening to inside the
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