Latest / Dubious Creatures Presents / The Dubious Book Club Podcast Ep 1 - Her Soul To Take by Harley LaRoux Part 1 (Preview)
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- 0:00Hello everybody, and welcome to the Dubious Book Club podcast, a
- 0:05part of Dubious Creatures. If you're hearing this, you're
- 0:08behind our paywall. I'm Aubrey and I play Raleigh in
- 0:13the show. I also edit most everything.
- 0:16So you've probably heard a lot of my work and I'm going to toss
- 0:20it over to the two people joining me today as we are going
- 0:23to discuss her soul to take by Harley La Roux.
- 0:29Other people at the table introduce yourself.
- 0:32Sup. Misfit.
- 0:34Bepley asked her. If you've ever interacted with
- 0:39our social medias. That's me.
- 0:42Sorry, I get weird. Hi, I'm Sawyer.
- 0:48I am the storyteller for The Vampire with No Name, as well as
- 0:52the main creative lead for Dubious Creatures Press.
- 0:57I play a bunch of characters who you don't care about and
- 1:01Sebastian who you weirdos care about way too much.
- 1:06So yeah, and I'm here against my will.
- 1:12No you're not. You totally agreed to this.
- 1:15You needed somebody who wasn't just going to fawn over sexy
- 1:21demon Blorbo, so here I am. And we appreciate you for it.
- 1:29But yes, before we really get into everything to do with the
- 1:34first half of this book, just a quick warning for all of you
- 1:38listeners. Rehearsal to Take is a dark
- 1:42romance novel and in such it contains a lot of content
- 1:48warnings. The big ones to be aware of are
- 1:52depictions of death, the sexual content, graphic violence,
- 1:55substance abuse, death by suicide, and in particular
- 2:01there's a lot of kink and fetish content, horror elements, non
- 2:04consensual drugging, and depictions of hard play of hard
- 2:07kink and edge play and consensual non consent.
- 2:13How are we going to rate this book?
- 2:18Out of blood bags. Out of blood bags, yes.
- 2:23Yes, out of however many blood bags.
- 2:26It's, it's fine. It's it's decent if like you
- 2:38have got some alone time in the tub on a Saturday afternoon.
- 2:43Yeah, we all know why people are here.
- 2:45It ain't for the pros. Sometimes the pros is good, but
- 2:50yes no it's mostly because it's the kinky fuckery.
- 2:53Yeah, which I do have some questions about, by the way.
- 2:59Get to those. I have some technical fucking
- 3:01concerns. Well, we will be discussing the
- 3:06first half of the book here today.
- 3:08And her Soul to take sort of takes.
- 3:10It takes place in the Pacific Northwest, specifically the town
- 3:14of Bellamy, Washington. When Raylan Lawson returns to
- 3:18finish up her last year of college, she meets a demon named
- 3:24Leon. And there's a cult and all of
- 3:29these deep connections to a old God beneath A bellum.
- 3:35A lot of that is in the second-half of the like a lot of
- 3:38the God stuff comes into play in the second-half of the book.
- 3:40So it would be definitely be discussing discussing more next
- 3:43time. But Long story short, Ray is the
- 3:48descendant of mine. Like these people who went down
- 3:52to the mines in 1899 and only three of them came out.
- 3:57And because they made a deal with the entity in there and now
- 4:04the entity is decided, it is time for sacrifices.
- 4:07So one person from each of the families that survived must be
- 4:13sacrificed. And unfortunately, Raylan has
- 4:16just decided to return to town at the absolute worst time.
- 4:21I think we'll get into probably more specifics as we discuss the
- 4:26events of the first half of the book.
- 4:29So yeah, what did what did the other two of you have a good
- 4:35time with the first half of the book?
- 4:38I would like to speak on behalf of everyone when I say your
- 4:41demon boyfriend ain't shit. I'm sorry, just your demon
- 4:47boyfriend ain't shit. So like as someone who listened
- 4:51to it and not actively read it because I do multiple things at
- 4:55once and being able to listen to a good audio book while like
- 5:00painting skateboards is wicked helpful.
- 5:05The scenes, the the, the way it's broken up between like Ray
- 5:10and Leon is great. It's especially because of the
- 5:18person who narrated the book for him does a really good job of
- 5:23being like oh, oh he actually means what he says.
- 5:26Oh he actually like gives a shit.
- 5:29Oh he cares. Oh look at his big demon heart
- 5:33giving a crap. Yeah, the as somebody who has
- 5:37listened to the audio book, the narration on both of their ends,
- 5:41he's fantastic, Very good. I have a problem with the way
- 5:44she pronunciates things, but that's a me thing.
- 5:46And not like fire, that's just a yeah, that's a me thing.
- 5:51Yeah, no, there's I If I'm, if I'm thinking correctly, I'm
- 5:54like, there are a few times where I was like, that's a weird
- 5:55way to pronounce that word, but OK.
- 5:59Look, I'll I'll I'll concede that it's well written.
- 6:02Don't get me wrong. I OK, despite me being me about
- 6:08this whole process, I don't think I want to make it clear.
- 6:11I don't think it's a bad book. I, I definitely don't think it's
- 6:14a waste of anybody's time, but I don't know, I, I get so Leon is
- 6:23the deuteragonist of the book. The chapters are split between
- 6:27his POV and Ray's POV as we go forward and it is the two of the
- 6:37meet because, well, because Leon wants to fuck her.
- 6:43Of course. Yeah.
- 6:45And that's fine. I mean, like, I know what?
- 6:49We all know why we're here. Everybody except the author
- 6:55doesn't seem to know why we're here, because the author can't
- 6:58decide whether or not this is some straight up monster fucker
- 7:02fantasy or some straight up urban fantasy.
- 7:07Why can't it be both? It can be it can.
- 7:12I'm not saying it can't it it it definitely.
- 7:15That is definitely a thing. The problem is 1 moment we're in
- 7:21Leon's inner monologue where he's a, you know, thinking of
- 7:29all the ways he wants to do the horizontal gymnastics with this
- 7:32lady. And then next we're talking
- 7:35about the ancient prophecy of a bellum and the God that sleeps
- 7:41underneath the earth. And it's like one of these
- 7:46things is not like the other. This book does a lot of world
- 7:50building for the later two in the series so they don't have to
- 7:55go over all of the God stuff. And well, the problem with that
- 8:00is that Now the problem with that is that as the book.
- 8:05Granted, this is particularly egregious in later chapters, but
- 8:08like, even in the beginning, Leon and Ray are both secondary
- 8:12characters in their own story. And the reason I say your demon
- 8:18boyfriend ain't shit is because Leon is a walking Wharf effect.
- 8:25He's super strong and dangerous and never wins fights.
- 8:31Not never. Oh, I'm, I'm sorry, he does win
- 8:34fights off screen, no. He he kills he kills an Elden
- 8:39right before the graveyard scene like right in.
- 8:42Front of he gets he gets one. Win, he gets one.
- 8:47That's the book. That win was super hot.
- 8:50Oh my God. Yeah.
- 8:55Yeah, and another thing is that this is, this is the monster you
- 8:59want to fuck. He's he's barely a he's he's a
- 9:03fucking scene kid with fangs and claws and a Gene Simmons tongue.
- 9:08That's it. That's about as monstrous as he
- 9:10gets. Pink.
- 9:11Creepy. Monster.
- 9:12Dick. This is true monster Dick.
- 9:15Oh yeah. A very good description of
- 9:18Monster Dick. Yeah, of course we can't forget
- 9:20his freaky monster penis. Exactly.
- 9:24Like come on, come on, this is that's not monster fucking.
- 9:31He could certainly have been more demonic, I will agree that.
- 9:36I just attract that up to like I equated that to to him having
- 9:40been on Earth for so long. I'd also like this version of
- 9:45like. Demons.
- 9:46Definitely seems to be a little different than your classic
- 9:49demons in like. Yeah, the whole concept of they
- 9:56just want to own souls makes a lot of sense, especially in like
- 10:02modern time. But like, no, they definitely
- 10:05don't match up to like I would say biblical DNS for sure.
- 10:09Because because they're not. They're meant to be a The world
- 10:13building makes it explicitly clear that they're meant to be a
- 10:15race of supernatural fuck. Boys.
- 10:17Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, like it's not subtle about
- 10:21that. Hell is described as a pretty
- 10:24chill place. So yeah, I take a.
- 10:28Residency, like yeah. Hell sounds hell sounds hell in
- 10:32this universe sounds nice. I'd I wouldn't mind a vacation
- 10:35home in hell. Yeah, the same.
- 10:40Kind of it's well, it's beauteous landscapes and
- 10:43abundance of precious metals and lack of capital.
- 10:48I I'm sorry, what is going on here?
- 10:50Well. They just like fucking public
- 10:52all the. Time, yeah.
- 10:56Yeah, except here's the thing. It's not, I don't think it's in
- 11:02these chapters and later chapters, but we meet like, we
- 11:07meet like a proper demon, like a Reaper, like something,
- 11:10something very biblically accurate.
- 11:12And I'm like, I I'm sorry. I was promised.
- 11:16I was promised I I was promise monster fucking.
- 11:19Why isn't Ray having sex with that?
- 11:23I'm just saying, if that's what we're here for and we got this
- 11:2810 foot tall winged ribs sticking out, skull face
- 11:32motherfucker, why isn't she? Maybe the Reaper had shown up
- 11:39earlier in the book. Yeah, I'm just I'm just saying
- 11:42like it it the the remainder of the demons in the book are a
- 11:46bunch of Tumblr sexy like, yeah, it's A and Leon gets one gets
- 11:55one victory. And for the rest of the book he
- 11:58he is eating shit with a spoon. No, I mean his his off screen
- 12:03and stuff because usually we're seeing through Rays.
- 12:07But like other characters that are important in the book, you
- 12:11also have the Hadleys, who are the leaders of the cult that are
- 12:15sacrificing people to the gods. You have Ray's best friend,
- 12:19Ayana. Yeah, OK, here's my gripe with
- 12:23Ray. And maybe this is just a Mia
- 12:25thing again, when someone comes on that strong in regards to the
- 12:32Hadley siblings. Like I have an immediate
- 12:37distrust. Like no fam, no, why do you want
- 12:40to be this close to me? Back off.
- 12:43Yeah. So like Ray, where is yourself
- 12:47preservation skills? Come on.
- 12:52She doesn't have any. All right?
- 12:54Ray's entire personality is don't bully me, I'll come.
- 12:59I resemble that but I still have self preservation skills.
- 13:03If if she had self preservation, then the whole then her meeting
- 13:07Leah it. So there's a scene very early on
- 13:10in the book where she meets Leon for the first time.
- 13:11Leon is a just truly ferocious douche.
- 13:16Like the sort of person you warn the flight attendant about when
- 13:19you sit near them on the airline, but instead of, you
- 13:23know, no survival skills just like her.
- 13:28Because we we see her internal monologue and her internal
- 13:31monologue outside she's like, oh boy.
- 13:35Inside she's like, oh boy, such. An effect on me, girl, I guess.
- 13:43What? Yeah, it's like girl.
- 13:45Come on, come on. But the romance doesn't work
- 13:50like the their whole shtick doesn't work if she doesn't have
- 13:57the emotional fortitude of wet toilet paper.
- 14:01It's pretty much it's it's, it's one of those things where it has
- 14:04to be like that for the other parts to happen.
- 14:06Like if she actually truly had self preservation she would have
- 14:09packed her fucking car and left back to Spain as soon as weird
- 14:14shit started. Why didn't she not go to Spain?
- 14:17First off, this could have been a very different bug if she had
- 14:21just gone to fucking Spain. Like one of the things I'm like,
- 14:26her dad's kind of know weird shit is going on.
- 14:29There there are definitely plenty of emotionally
- 14:32unavailable fuck boys named Leon in Spain.
- 14:35I'm I'm damn certain. Yeah, yeah, Ray is.
- 14:45I like her cat. That's about the most the nicest
- 14:47thing I have to say about Ray. Cheesecake, Cheesecake.
- 14:52I love cheesecake. Yeah, yeah.
- 14:57No, I, I'm, I'm glad that cheesecake survives that.
- 15:00Yes. If you're dear listener, if
- 15:03you're worried about the cat, he's fine.
- 15:05People always get fine through the entire book.
- 15:08The cat's fine. Cat's fine.
- 15:11Yeah, only only the Hadleys have more plot armor than the cat.
- 15:16They don't. Really, they're old.
- 15:20No no no no no no no fuck the haggis have so much fucking plot
- 15:26armor it is insane. I've never seen antagonists just
- 15:36Leon again because the demon boyfriend ain't shit.
- 15:41There is no reason when Leon breaks free the first time that
- 15:45he shouldn't RIP and tear until it is done.
- 15:48He has made it quite clear from the very beginning.
- 15:50The opening chapter describes how much he despises these
- 15:54people he get. He gets a vague notion of
- 15:59something vaguely mysterious radiating off of Everly.
- 16:02And besides, hmm, this internal vendetta against this family
- 16:06that has tormented me for God knows how long they can wait
- 16:11because oh shit she's giving me the protagonist eyes.
- 16:14Ah fuck I I got to. I got to bounce, man.
- 16:18Yeah, because let's face it, Everly is the actual
- 16:20protagonist. Like her and Juniper?
- 16:22Like Ray's? Also here.
- 16:26Yeah, but I mean also Everly. And all of that leads into one
- 16:30of the big Like Mac guffins of the first half of the book, the
- 16:34Grimoire. Oh yeah, the grimoire being OK.
- 16:38I. I I understand we get an
- 16:42explanation for it in the second-half of the book, but
- 16:46like. Really.
- 16:49You're just going to leave it in a fucking rando ass bookstore?
- 16:53And what is up with this bookstore owner?
- 16:56The best friend who doesn't can't just recognize and like an
- 17:00ancient grimoire. It's probably worth a fuck ton
- 17:05of money like. Because she's not a character.
- 17:11She's the minority quota sidekick.
- 17:13I'm. Sorry, it's I'm sorry, there is
- 17:17there is a problem with the one of the problems the book is I
- 17:19don't know, is really not a character.
- 17:22Yeah, she should. Have been more of a character.
- 17:25She checks all the boxes. Jeez.
- 17:29She's gay person of color, she is supportive no matter what,
- 17:35but she doesn't actually do anything and that's a problem.
- 17:40Yeah, like why don't you even check on your friend at the big
- 17:43fancy? Oh wait, that's in the later
- 17:45half of the book. Never mind.
- 17:50Yeah, the problem with the problem with discussing the 1st
- 17:5325 chapters of this book is that not a lot of fucking shit
- 17:56happens. It's a lot of setup for sure.
- 17:59He's a lot of. Setup.
- 18:01There's one. There's one.
- 18:05Yeah, there's one sex scene. I think I might be
- 18:08misremembering. No, I think there's two.
- 18:11There's two. No, yeah, you're right.
- 18:12There is 2, the 1st. One is yeah, there's like 2
- 18:15actual sex scenes. I I, I labeled all of the smut
- 18:19in my physical copy and there were five smut scenes that two
- 18:23of them were actually like sex, one of them was the finger
- 18:28ranging and then two of them were like which.
- 18:31By the way, by the way, by the way, no back the fuck up.
- 18:34We're going to talk about this. So for for those of you
- 18:37listening at home, this is where the content warnings definitely
- 18:40come up. So if this ain't your thing, you
- 18:44should probably pause now. So early on in the book, Ray
- 18:51kind of just fucking randomly runs into Leon and fuck boy
- 18:58numero dos Zayn, who's also a demon by the way.
- 19:02I'm going to be using the terms demon and fuck boy
- 19:03interchangeably, I feel. And you know, the one thing
- 19:09leads to another. You know you awkwardly run into
- 19:12this guy you don't like in this bar you've never been to before.
- 19:15Next thing you know, you're letting them finger bang you up
- 19:18against the wall in this alleyway while his friend
- 19:21watches. You've cleared what?
- 19:24I made. Questionable decisions.
- 19:26Oh, I have. I know exactly what that
- 19:30situation is like, which is why I, I posit to you this, how is
- 19:36he doing it? Ray?
- 19:38Is it? It's made very clear from the
- 19:40beginning that Leon is very is a lot taller than Ray, right.
- 19:46And in that scene, Ray has got her arms around his neck and
- 19:51he's got his fingers in her unmentionables.
- 19:56But Speaking of somebody who is very tall, that height
- 19:59difference, the math ain't mathen.
- 20:03Because what's happening is that either he is full, it's always
- 20:06Sunny lifting him off the ground through her vagina, or he's bent
- 20:12over at a 90° angle while she's awkwardly clinging on to his
- 20:16shoulders. And Zane's just watching the
- 20:19entire time as they tried to make this mechanically work.
- 20:24Like the entire time I couldn't stop thinking about the height
- 20:27difference because it's a factor, especially if whoever
- 20:36you're with is shorter than you so.
- 20:41This is being a giant. Yes, the canonically the six
- 20:46foot 4. I'm also happily married.
- 20:49You just want to say happily married.
- 21:00My wife is also shorter than me anyway, but we're not talking
- 21:08about me. We're.
- 21:08Talking about listeners brains just went oh really?
- 21:13Yeah, we're not talking about me.
- 21:14We're we're talking about Leon and his extendo arms apparently,
- 21:19because that's the only way I can figure this working.
- 21:22Was she wearing like heels? Because that that would make it
- 21:26work. If she was wearing I.
- 21:28Think it was like combat boots or something.
- 21:30Then they might have had they might have put a heel on them.
- 21:33Heel on them, yeah. OK, OK.
- 21:35But I mean, it doesn't say explicitly though that they go.
- 21:39Into non explicitly. I know, but like, mostly it's
- 21:43just about his fingers worming their way into her panties.
- 21:47So see that's where my my issue comes in.
- 21:50Like bro, you would have had to drop them trous.
- 21:53Yeah, yeah. So like her.
- 21:58The problem with the descriptive, I swear this isn't
- 22:00just me being a patent. The problem with the descriptive
- 22:03scene, especially with the descriptive sex scene, is that
- 22:05the more detail you include, the more the reader is going to be
- 22:08like, wait a minute. I didn't have, I didn't stop to
- 22:14think about the physics of it. I'm going to be so thrilled with
- 22:17you and. I look, I stopped to think about
- 22:19the physics, but yeah, well, that's because, and I, I, I mean
- 22:24no offense by this, you 2 don't have problems getting through
- 22:30some door frames. No, no, I'm 5 four.
- 22:34I'm very short. Yeah, I have to.
- 22:38I have to think about these things all the time.
- 22:42But I do have a friend who is 5/4 and yeah OK, watching them
- 22:45go through door frames is kind of hilarious.
- 22:47Sometimes, yeah. Yeah.
- 22:51So like speaking for all tall people who have finger banged
- 22:55and allies, I just don't get the I don't get the I, Yeah,
- 23:02unfortunately, just thinking about and this could very well
- 23:05just be a me thing because if you can't tell listeners I am a
- 23:09pedant, it's what they pay me for.
- 23:14The entire time that sex scene was happening, I was just like,
- 23:17OK, bro, either you're playing with her or you're playing with
- 23:22the brick wall behind her. One of these things is is not
- 23:26adding up. It is a scene that is very hot,
- 23:30but also mechanically confusing. Mechanically confusing.
- 23:34And then there's a bit afterwards where, again, Zane
- 23:37watching this the entire time, Leon goes up to Zayn and Zayn
- 23:44fucking licks the you know what off of his fingers.
- 23:50You know, like you do. You know, friends share with
- 23:52friends. Yeah, it's just, it's just.
- 23:55Sharing is caring. It's a, it's a very.
- 23:57It's it's a very. It's a sub clause of the bro
- 24:01code. Don't know if you guys know.
- 24:03It's good to know. What the fuck I?
- 24:05Didn't know that. OK.
- 24:07What the fuck? That wasn't so much Yeah, for
- 24:12me, that wasn't so much sexy. It was just like, dude,
- 24:17unsanitary. You don't know where his fingers
- 24:21have been. Actually.
- 24:23Well, no, but I mean before that.
- 24:27I don't think they cared because they did like establish that
- 24:31they are regular like play partners and stuff so.
- 24:35Yeah, I, I know, Leon. Canonically bisexual.
- 24:39Surprising. Absolutely no.
- 24:40One. Yeah, I'm sorry.
- 24:44If I. Yeah, I do too.
- 24:49Yeah, I mean, credit to the author.
- 24:51She just kind of comes out and says a lot of what the audience
- 24:56is presumably thinking. Yeah.
- 25:01But yeah, the other big thing is like what drives the a lot of
- 25:05the plot in the first half of the is, is the grimoire is like
- 25:13Ray getting it from the bookstore and kind of just sort
- 25:15of Ray is a amateur paranormal investigator.
- 25:19So it's like this is up her alley.
- 25:22She also wears glasses by the way, folks, so.
- 25:27The number of people who I recommended this book to, I'd
- 25:31have turned around after reading like the first few chapters and
- 25:33go, are you is Ray you? And I was just going, OK, Yeah,
- 25:37no, that's yeah. Jinkies, Velma.
- 25:44But yeah, now she's a paranormal investigate, like the amateur
- 25:47paranormal investigator. So it's all like up her alley.
- 25:49So she starts like reading about it and she has a YouTube channel
- 25:53that's not doing great. So she's like, fuck it, let's
- 25:56make some. Do you know, let's summon.
- 25:59A test. Fuck it.
- 26:02All the while peeing like this is a horrible idea and I
- 26:05shouldn't do this. My integrity as an investigator.
- 26:10Do the things people will do for Internet clout these days.
- 26:16I like, I love how her initial motivation is just like, oh, I
- 26:19got to get engagement up on my channel.
- 26:22This is too fucking real. I'm going to be honest that that
- 26:27might be the best part of this book.
- 26:31Just how real it is? I got it, I got to get fucked
- 26:35over a church Pew because the channel will suffer otherwise.
- 26:41It's for the content. It's it, you know I.
- 26:45Need. That content you just know
- 26:47YouTube is immediately going to shadow man that shit.
- 26:52Yeah, no, it's like the first part is like her kind of
- 26:58flirting, arguing with Leon, the finger banging scene and
- 27:04eventually leading her up to Saint Thaddeus and old abandoned
- 27:08church near the mine shaft where she performs the ritual and
- 27:12summons Leon. This is after he was recently
- 27:14dismissed by the Hadleys because they lost the grimoire and could
- 27:18no longer control him. For plot reasons.
- 27:22For plot reasons. Yeah, because you know when you
- 27:27have a demon who from chapter from chapter one has made it
- 27:31quite clear that he would like to go full Dante's Inferno on
- 27:35these fuckers sometimes, you know, Hadley seen you as a dad.
- 27:41You know, you misplace your glasses.
- 27:43You don't know you. You look in the fridge.
- 27:44Ancient. Cream Wire.
- 27:46Yeah, you know, you look in the fridge.
- 27:47Yeah, you, you like, where's the mustard?
- 27:49Like the mustard's right in front of you.
- 27:50You know, you displace your family's ancient tome of
- 27:53magical. So it happens, you know, you get
- 27:56to a certain age. What the fuck?
- 27:59Yeah, yeah. Like seriously And.
- 28:05Reading like the rest of the book and the others like I know
- 28:08that I know why, why the grim bar went missing and what
- 28:12happened with it and how it ended up being raised.
- 28:14It's just like, I do wish it was a little bit more in book 1.
- 28:18I do too. Yeah, which is another mortal
- 28:21sin. This book commits so much stuff
- 28:26either happens to the protagonist because of stuff
- 28:31happening off screen, or it just straight up happens off screen.
- 28:36Yeah, for anyone, anyone just listening that's curious, is all
- 28:39three books kind of happen at the same time?
- 28:43Like there were timelines pretty much overlap, like some of them
- 28:49take place to start a little earlier than this book or end a
- 28:51little earlier than this book. But yeah, it's all all three of
- 28:57them happen the same, different same time, and they're all about
- 28:593 different couples. That's even more infuriating is
- 29:02that later we gets to meet the actual protagonist of the series
- 29:06and all these conversations basically boil down to like, OK,
- 29:11no more from you sweet cheeks, I've got a plot.
- 29:15You, on the other hand, have a sex scene to get back to.
- 29:19Yeah, so there's there's a lot of, after Ray accidentally
- 29:23summons Leon, there's a lot of back and forth, Then a lot of
- 29:28the supernatural things just start happening really quick.
- 29:31We learned a little bit more about the the God underneath.
- 29:34We learned that there are these sort of weird creatures called
- 29:39the Eld who you know. I I do like the ELD.
- 29:45Yeah, they're great, sort of. I thought they're very creepy
- 29:48like I did. I did enjoy that.
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