Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / Trump's AI Executive Order Has a $100 Million Lobby Behind It
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- 1:18President Trump cited an executive order on Thursday that
- 1:21tells states to step aside on AI.
- 1:25The order blocks states from enforcing their own AI
- 1:28regulation and replaces that patchwork with what the White
- 1:32House calls a single national framework for AI.
- 1:38That is a massive policy shift and it happened in the Oval
- 1:42Office with venture capitalists standing right behind the
- 1:45president. This one stopped me in my
- 1:47tracks. I was like, what is going on
- 1:49here? It looks like the industry is
- 1:52taking over the White House. Now. 4 states have already
- 1:55passed AI laws. Colorado, California, Utah, and
- 1:57Texas all have rules on the books.
- 2:00So what happens to those laws now?
- 2:04The executive order creates A litigation task force inside the
- 2:07Justice Department specifically designed to sue states over
- 2:11their AI laws. We're going to cover how this
- 2:14order works, who is behind it and why Republicans are fighting
- 2:18each other over it and whether it will survive the courts.
- 2:21And we'll get right into that after this very short break.
- 2:26Now, Trump just gave tech companies a federal shield
- 2:29against state oversight. The executive order dropped
- 2:31December 11th, and it carries real enforcement teeth.
- 2:35Attorney General Pam Bondi now has orders to build an AI
- 2:38litigation task force. Now, that task force has one job
- 2:42to sue states. The signing ceremony in the Oval
- 2:46Office told you everything you needed to know about who wanted
- 2:49this. David Sachs stood next to the
- 2:52president. And Sachs is a venture
- 2:53capitalist and the White House crypto and AI czar.
- 2:57Now, another tech investor and podcaster was there.
- 3:00Tech Senator Ted Cruz rounded out the group.
- 3:03Now, hold on to that detail. The people celebrating this
- 3:07order are not consumer advocates or state attorneys generals.
- 3:11They are from Silicon Valley. Money.
- 3:14Here is what the order actually does.
- 3:17It directs the Justice Department to challenge state AI
- 3:19laws in court. It tells the Federal Trade
- 3:22Commission and the Federal Communications Commissions to
- 3:24work with the DOJ to circumvent what the White House calls
- 3:27onerous state and local regulations.
- 3:31It threatens to withhold federal broadband funding from states
- 3:35that pass AI laws the administration doesn't like.
- 3:40That is a funding penalty, which is a serious lever from the top.
- 3:45Now. Commerce Secretary Howard
- 3:46Lutnick now has to study which states might lose that money
- 3:50now. Sachs offered one carve out
- 3:52during the ceremony. Child safety regulations stay in
- 3:55place. The administration will not push
- 3:57back on state laws designed to protect kids from EI harms.
- 4:02Sachs also wrote on social media that the order does not mean the
- 4:05administration will challenge every state AI law.
- 4:08Now that sounds reasonable until you realize the order gives the
- 4:12executive branch unilateral power to decide which state laws
- 4:16count as onerous. Now, there is no definition, no
- 4:20list. The White House picks the
- 4:22targets. A quick definition here, though.
- 4:25When policy people say preemption, they actually mean
- 4:29the federal government overriding state authority.
- 4:31That is what this order attempts to do.
- 4:33The question is whether an executive order can actually do
- 4:36that. Legal experts say no Brad Carson
- 4:39runs Americans for Responsible Innovation.
- 4:42He called the order in attempt to push through unpopular and
- 4:45unwise policy. He predicted it will hit a brick
- 4:48wall in the courts. Now that changes all these
- 4:51stakes. This is not a set of law.
- 4:55It's a fight in the courts right now.
- 4:57And here is a pretty key point here.
- 5:01Congress already already rejected this.
- 5:03In July, the Senate voted nearly unanimously to remove a 10 year
- 5:08moratorium on state IEI regulations from Trump's
- 5:11domestic policy bill. Republicans joined Democrats.
- 5:15The moratorium died. Then Republican lawmakers tried
- 5:19again, pushing AI preemption into the National Defense
- 5:23Authorization Act. That also failed.
- 5:25The executive order is attempt #3 now that is the key.
- 5:31When the legislative branch says no twice, the executive branch
- 5:34does does it anyway, executive orders it.
- 5:37This is not a clean partisan fight.
- 5:39Republicans are on both sides. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis
- 5:42called the idea a subsidy to Big tech.
- 5:44He wrote that denying people the ability to channel these
- 5:47technologies through self government constitutes federal
- 5:50overreach and let's technology companies run rampant.
- 5:54That is a conservative Republican governor attacking A
- 5:57conservative Republican president.
- 5:59Steve Bannon went further on his War Room podcast.
- 6:03He said we have more regulations about launching a nail salon on
- 6:06Capitol Hill than we have on the Frontier Labs.
- 6:09We have no earthly idea what they're doing.
- 6:12So what do we know? Right now, though, the MAGA
- 6:15Coalition is fractured on this. The tech industry wanted this
- 6:20very badly. Open AI, Google, and the venture
- 6:23firm Anderson Horowitz have all lobbied to limit state
- 6:26regulations. AI companies have been opening
- 6:29offices near the Capitol and launching campaigns through a
- 6:31super PAC, with at least $100 million earmarked for the 2026
- 6:36midterm elections. Sam Altman, the CEO of Open AI,
- 6:40has argued the navigating 50 different state regulations
- 6:44would slow innovation and hurt America.
- 6:46In the AI race with China, that's how they frame it.
- 6:49National security versus state rights A critics see it
- 6:53differently. Sasha Hayworth runs the Tech
- 6:57Oversight project. She said we are in a fight to
- 7:00determine who will benefit from AI, big Tech, CE, OS or the
- 7:03American people. Democratic Senator Ed Markey
- 7:06called the order in early Christmas present for his CEO
- 7:09billionaire buddies. He called it irresponsible,
- 7:12short sighted in an assault on state's ability to safeguard
- 7:16their constituents. Hundreds of organizations signed
- 7:19letters to Congress last month opposing the idea of blocking
- 7:22state AI regulations. Tech employee unions, consumer
- 7:25protection, nonprofits, education institutions.
- 7:29The opposition is very broad now.
- 7:32What have states actually done here?
- 7:344 states passed laws setting rules for AI across the private
- 7:37sector. Those laws limit the collection
- 7:40of certain personal information and require more transparency
- 7:43from companies. And beyond those broader rules,
- 7:47many states have regulated specific AI uses, banning
- 7:51defects, elections, prohibiting AI generated non consensual
- 7:57videos, putting guardrails on government use of AI.
- 8:01Those laws now face potential federal challenge.
- 8:05Now the legal question comes down to one word, authority.
- 8:09Mackenzie Arnold directs U.S. policy at the Institute for Law
- 8:12and AI. She pointed out that by the
- 8:14administration's logic, states would not be allowed to pass
- 8:17Product Safety laws either. That's almost all of them affect
- 8:20companies that sell goods nationally.
- 8:23That makes the order vulnerable. Courts have historically allowed
- 8:27states to regulate products and business practices within their
- 8:30borders, even when those businesses operate across state
- 8:33lines. The Commerce Clause argument
- 8:36cuts both ways. Now do a little recap here.
- 8:41Trump signed an executive order blocking states from enforcing
- 8:43their own AI regulations. The order creates a Justice
- 8:46Department task force to sue those states.
- 8:50They threaten federal funding if they don't comply.
- 8:54It gives the White House power to decide which state laws cross
- 8:58the line. Congress rejected similar
- 9:01measures twice this year. Republican governors and
- 9:04commentators oppose it alongside the Democrats.
- 9:07They're in this together. They don't want this to happen.
- 9:10Tech companies and their investors 100% want this so they
- 9:14can control everything that we do with AI.
- 9:19Look, I'm not a conspiracy theory person.
- 9:21I don't have a tinfoil hat. I've never worn one.
- 9:24But I know what money does to people.
- 9:27If they can have control over the laws, they can do whatever
- 9:30they want with the technology and make more money.
- 9:33That's what Sam Altman wants. He's not your friend.
- 9:36None of the tech billionaires are your friends.
- 9:39I'm not a politician, but anybody that runs these
- 9:42companies, they have profit in mind.
- 9:46They don't care about you. Now courts will likely decide
- 9:50whether this survives and hopefully an executive order
- 9:53does not limit states rights to do what they need to do to
- 9:58protect people from AI. Hey, thank you so much for
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