Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Fighter pilot on order to take down Flight 93 on 911
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We want to start the hour tonight with someone very special.
- 0:03Speaker 1: That is retired Air Force Major Heather Lucky Penny, who
- 0:06Speaker 1: was a rookie pilot in the D.C. Air National Guard
- 0:09Speaker 1: on 9-11. And as the attacks were unfolding, was given
- 0:13Speaker 1: a mission to intercept Flight 93 before it could reach
- 0:16Speaker 1: the nation's capital, even if doing so meant sacrificing her
- 0:20Speaker 1: own life by ramming the plane itself. And Major Penny,
- 0:24Speaker 1: I'm honored to have you here tonight. So I just
- 0:27Speaker 1: want to say thank you for joining us on this day.
- 0:29Speaker 1: And As you look back 25 years later, what do
- 0:33Speaker 1: you remember about that morning at Andrews Air Force Base?
- 0:40Speaker 2: That morning was totally ordinary and everyday. My fighter squadron,
- 0:44Speaker 2: which was the District of Columbia Air National Guard, was
- 0:47Speaker 2: min-manned because we had just gotten bagged from a major exercise.
- 0:51Speaker 2: So we really didn't have the pilots, the maintainers, the
- 0:55Speaker 2: personnel to launch into the combat operations area. that we
- 0:59Speaker 2: would embark on later that morning. You have to remember,
- 1:02Speaker 2: in this moment, after the fall of the Soviet Union,
- 1:05Speaker 2: the nation had slashed our air force in half. And
- 1:08Speaker 2: while my unit, once upon a time, had sat alert,
- 1:11Speaker 2: we were no longer an alert asset. So we had
- 1:14Speaker 2: no live weapons. We were not plugged into command and control.
- 1:18Speaker 2: We were not part of the NORAD response and responsibility
- 1:22Speaker 2: to control and secure our skies.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some people might hear what happened with
- 1:30Speaker 1: you and think, was there not a plan to scramble
- 1:33Speaker 1: planes to put them in the sky or have this
- 1:35Speaker 1: in that moment? And it's pretty remarkable that there wasn't.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I mean, so how did you know what to do
- 1:44Speaker 1: in that moment amid such chaos and confusion?
- 1:49Speaker 2: Well, first, there were only five units around the United States,
- 1:52Speaker 2: the contiguous United States. And so there were alert units
- 1:55Speaker 2: in Norfolk and an alert unit up in Massachusetts, but
- 1:59Speaker 2: not one dedicated to D.C. But we knew what needed
- 2:03Speaker 2: to be done because we had seen the images already.
- 2:06Speaker 2: on the television. We had seen the airliners crash into
- 2:10Speaker 2: the towers, aim and crash. And we could see the
- 2:13Speaker 2: smoke coming out of the Pentagon from our flight line.
- 2:17Speaker 2: So we knew our nation was under attack and we
- 2:19Speaker 2: knew that we would need to do whatever it took
- 2:22Speaker 2: to protect and defend.
- 2:25Speaker 1: So you get up in the sky and what was
- 2:27Speaker 1: going through your mind?
- 2:31Speaker 2: It took us too long to get airborne because since
- 2:35Speaker 2: we knew what the target would be, what the threat
- 2:39Speaker 2: would be, an airliner, a hijacked airliner full of innocent Americans,
- 2:44Speaker 2: we had to wait until we had the appropriate authorization
- 2:48Speaker 2: to get airborne. And when we finally did, Mark Sassabill,
- 2:52Speaker 2: who is my flight lead, I was just a young weeman,
- 2:55Speaker 2: Our mission was clear, to protect and defend, and we
- 2:58Speaker 2: would do whatever it would take to make sure that
- 3:02Speaker 2: no more harm came to our countrymen, came to our country.
- 3:06Speaker 2: And because we didn't have any missiles, we knew that
- 3:09Speaker 2: that would be a suicide mission.
- 3:13Speaker 1: What was it like for you, as someone as young
- 3:17Speaker 1: as you were on that day, to be up in
- 3:19Speaker 1: the sky thinking that that could be your last mission?
- 3:28Speaker 2: I was doing my job. I had sworn an oath
- 3:32Speaker 2: to protect and defend. And honestly, if God had put
- 3:36Speaker 2: me in that moment, then that was my purpose. I
- 3:41Speaker 2: was just a small thing compared to what this nation means.
- 3:46Speaker 2: And if you remember the days and the weeks that
- 3:47Speaker 2: followed 9-11, where we came together as a nation and
- 3:50Speaker 2: it didn't, none of the things that are dividing us today,
- 3:53Speaker 2: none of that mattered, but we knew that we were neighbors, right?
- 3:57Speaker 2: that we were human, that we all had families and
- 3:59Speaker 2: loved ones and dreams and we all cherished our freedoms
- 4:03Speaker 2: and what this nation has allowed us to be able
- 4:05Speaker 2: to do, that we all came together, that's so much
- 4:09Speaker 2: bigger than what I was. And to me, that was
- 4:13Speaker 2: worth and still is worth giving my life for to protect.
- 4:19Speaker 1: It just is a remarkable story. I mean, there are
- 4:22Speaker 1: so many different stories from that day of bravery and
- 4:26Speaker 1: heroics and And, you know, I wonder what went through
- 4:32Speaker 1: your mind when you realized what had happened on Flight 93,
- 4:36Speaker 1: that you were prepared to sacrifice your life to take
- 4:40Speaker 1: that plane down, thinking it was hijacked and was going
- 4:43Speaker 1: for a major target. When you found out that it
- 4:46Speaker 1: was the citizens on board, the moms, the dads, the salesmen,
- 4:53Speaker 1: the kids on that plane that decided to to sacrifice
- 4:58Speaker 1: their own lives to protect other people once they realized
- 5:02Speaker 1: what was going on. What was it like for you
- 5:04Speaker 1: to hear that?
- 5:07Speaker 2: Those passengers, the decisions that they made, their heroic actions
- 5:12Speaker 2: gives me hope. It gave me hope back then and
- 5:16Speaker 2: it gives me hope today because none of them were veterans,
- 5:22Speaker 2: service members, first responders, volunteer firefighters. They were just ordinary Americans,
- 5:28Speaker 2: and yet they chose to make that ultimate sacrifice. And
- 5:32Speaker 2: that that kind of heroism is in ordinary Americans, that
- 5:37Speaker 2: they realize that there are things in this world that
- 5:40Speaker 2: are more important than ourselves, and that this thing called
- 5:43Speaker 2: America is something worth it. That gives me hope. That
- 5:51Speaker 2: gives me hope for our nation that even today, as
- 5:54Speaker 2: divided as we are, that we can come together and
- 5:58Speaker 2: really be e pluribus unum.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I just the let's roll story. I mean, I
- 6:07Speaker 1: think every year is something that makes everyone emotional.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Todd Beamer. Yes.
- 6:13Speaker 1: As Todd Beamer had made that call and they charged
- 6:17Speaker 1: the cockpit and took that plane down. Major Penny, Heather,
- 6:21Speaker 1: Lucky Penny, it is an honor to speak with you tonight.
- 6:24Speaker 1: And I just want to say thank you for joining
- 6:26Speaker 1: us on this year, this anniversary. And thank you for
- 6:29Speaker 1: your service as well to this country and for what
- 6:32Speaker 1: you did on that day and what you were prepared
- 6:34Speaker 1: to do.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Thank you. Serving has been my privilege.
- 6:39Speaker 1: It's a joy to hear from you tonight. Thank you.
- 6:42Speaker 1: And I should note that on that moment 25 years ago,
- 6:45Speaker 1: Major Penny went up in the sky that day preparing
- 6:48Speaker 1: to sacrifice her own life to take down that flight,
- 6:50Speaker 1: ended up escorting Air Force One in the sky that day, which,
- 6:55Speaker 1: of course, is where President Bush was flying later after
- 6:58Speaker 1: he had been told while he was in Florida that
- 7:00Speaker 1: the nation was under attack as he was sitting in
- 7:02Speaker 1: that Florida classroom. It was one of the most unforgettable
- 7:05Speaker 1: scenes from that day. My next source tonight was actually
- 7:08Speaker 1: one of the few people who experienced it firsthand, how
- 7:10Speaker 1: it played out from the president's perspective.
- 7:15Speaker 3: ABC's Ann Compton. is with the president at the moment,
- 7:19Speaker 3: and we have her on the telephone.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Annie.
- 7:22Speaker 5: Peter, it has been a frightening couple of hours for
- 7:26Speaker 5: President Bush. We don't know much about what's gone on
- 7:28Speaker 5: in the ground, but he has been able to see
- 7:30Speaker 5: some of it on a very fuzzy television picture. President
- 7:33Speaker 5: Bush is.
- 7:34Speaker 4: Here at the home of the Strategic Command. This is
- 7:37Speaker 4: the area, this is the base where those big doomsday
- 7:40Speaker 4: aircraft are kept.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Ann Compton, who's been with the president all day, in
- 7:44Speaker 3: a very tight group of people with the president, is
- 7:47Speaker 3: on Air Force One and can talk to us at
- 7:48Speaker 3: the moment. Annie, can you hear me?
- 7:50Speaker 4: Yes, Peter, I can. We're just getting off of Air
- 7:52Speaker 4: Force One. He has arrived back in Washington with a
- 7:56Speaker 4: dramatic flight with F-16s and F-15s on either wing as
- 8:01Speaker 4: he came into Andrews Air Force Base.