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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Wars, did you Jack, Jack Morris, did you Jack Wars?
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Speaker 1: Drive Time right and sex sext John O's agent, Ashley
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Speaker 1: Sag Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. You know, we've
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Speaker 1: been so fortunate over the last couple of years to
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Speaker 1: have two top fifteen quarterbacks in Carson and Nick, and
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Speaker 1: we've spent a lot of time discussing this internally end
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Speaker 1: with him and we've decided to let it become free agent.
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Speaker 1: That's how we rose mean, general manager of the Philadelphia Eagles,
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Speaker 1: And that leads off our show this morning. Hello, and
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Speaker 1: welcome to Jack's Drive Time. Brian Sexton joined by John
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Speaker 1: Osher and Ashlett Sullivan. Was that was that the moment
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Speaker 1: of the combined was that Well for Jacks people, it
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Speaker 1: certainly was. For Jacks observers, it certainly was. Uh, the
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Speaker 1: moments of the combine for people would expected that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that was entirely unexpected, right, Buzz, that that was coming.
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Speaker 1: Did you know you thought that it might happen today?
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Speaker 1: I think they would announce it a week out. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the moments of the combine where Kyler Murray centric, but
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Speaker 1: one a was Nick Foles and certainly for Jaguars observers
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Speaker 1: until we hear whether or not the you know news,
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Speaker 1: the speculation is official, it's and certainly the moment the
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Speaker 1: combine and the moment of the off season. So how
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Speaker 1: was your week up there? It was good. We were busy.
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Speaker 1: That completely shifted our focus. On Wednesday, I remember announcement
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Speaker 1: was made. It was completely a different day, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, Mother's Day was all now Nick Foles centric,
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Speaker 1: which neither of us expected. Right, And there's a limit
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Speaker 1: to what we could actually do with it because you're
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Speaker 1: still dealing in speculation. You're still dealing are today by
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Speaker 1: the way, and now you're asking the questions sort of
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Speaker 1: around the topic. Whatever it is won't be official, and
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Speaker 1: it will be press releases on anything until a week
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Speaker 1: from tomorrow, eight days out. So it's just our speculation
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Speaker 1: and it might end up shifting, it might end up
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Speaker 1: shifting the franchise, and but it really wasn't. It was
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Speaker 1: about three or four days later where the news came
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Speaker 1: out of Philly that it sounded like he's the guy,
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Speaker 1: and we'll get to that, but we'll still see yeah,
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Speaker 1: and we'll get to that plenty of that. What's amazing
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Speaker 1: to me is having done this as long as I have.
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Speaker 1: I mean, all of a sudden, the Super Bowl is over.
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Speaker 1: You have just a just a brief quiet period of
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Speaker 1: a week or so. Then the combine was all consuming.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday was tag Day. Next week is free agency. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this thing is just rolling almost at full speed again,
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Speaker 1: and with the I don't know the supposition that there
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Speaker 1: will be a new quarterback here. Maybe it's the earliest
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Speaker 1: next week that has the anticipation in Jacksonville really high.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's forget the off season, and let's hope
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Speaker 1: I mean, and I would get to it later if
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Speaker 1: Folds is coming. Let's hope Roseman's right and he's a
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Speaker 1: top fifteen guy, because that's the big debate is how
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Speaker 1: good is what you're getting. It's gonna be very open
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Speaker 1: to debate until he steps in the field, because there
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Speaker 1: are pros and cons of this. Well, let's roll right
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Speaker 1: into it. That nashly all right, the story of Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles and on again off against starter, cut trading and
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Speaker 1: bench but also a Super Bowl m VP of four
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Speaker 1: record in the playoffs. We just heard from general manager
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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman of the Eagles. He says that Fowls deserves
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Speaker 1: a fresh start wherever he goes. At the same time,
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Speaker 1: we've had an incredible success with him when he's had
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Speaker 1: to play. UH four playoff wins over the last two years.
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Speaker 1: Great teammate. UM a huge resource for Carson and Nate
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Speaker 1: Sudfeld as well. But at the same time, Um, he
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Speaker 1: deserves an opportunity to lead a team. It's a goal
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Speaker 1: of his to lead another team and lead another locker room,
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Speaker 1: and we feel at this point that it's the right decision.
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Speaker 1: So talking to people throughout the week, John and I
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Speaker 1: would always whenever we would say we were from the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: meaning it was always brought up Nick Foles. You couldn't
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Speaker 1: get away from it. But a big point that a
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Speaker 1: lot of people were stressing to me was that he's
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Speaker 1: never played a full NFL season, never sixteen games, which
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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a big deal at the time,
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Speaker 1: but then you look back at it and that is
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Speaker 1: kind of a point that not a lot of people
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Speaker 1: are making. So UM. He had a tremendous with the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: Remember Mike Vic got hurt, He took over for him,
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Speaker 1: a twenty seven touchdowns and only two interceptions and went
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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. UM and then you know, bounced
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Speaker 1: around St. Louis, Kansas City, and we've seen him twice,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have seen him twice. So I'm opening day.
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Speaker 1: If you remember that game and didn't scare you to time, Well,
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Speaker 1: three turnovers in the first half and it was really
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Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls that opened that game up. In the second half,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense had no answer for him. He had
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Speaker 1: a couple of long touchdown runs. Same thing. Jagg Wars
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Speaker 1: probably win that game. Remember he was in Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: He's on in relief of Alex Smith. Jacker was probably
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Speaker 1: win that game. And they weren't a good team, but
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Speaker 1: they probably win that game if Chris Ivory doesn't fumble
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Speaker 1: on the goal line in the third quarter. So you know,
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Speaker 1: then he comes back to Philly and obviously that's been
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Speaker 1: well chronicled and you just have to scratch your head
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Speaker 1: a little bing. Okay, which Nick Foles are we getting
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Speaker 1: the one that was really good in and really good
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Speaker 1: in and pretty good in two or the one in
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Speaker 1: between that was sort of lost and didn't know whether
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Speaker 1: he wanted to keep playing football and just was a guy,
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Speaker 1: just a guy. Yeah, John made a point. He's not
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Speaker 1: the type of guy that scares you. And I think
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Speaker 1: that said, he's a very even keel guy. And they
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Speaker 1: always mentioned the running game he's played with. I think
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Speaker 1: it's so dependent still on if won of for Net
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Speaker 1: can make a big step this season, because then I
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Speaker 1: think he lifts everyone up. We were talking about Blake Bordles, right,
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Speaker 1: some people think is the worst quarterback that's ever played, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously tongue in cheek here, but he had
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Speaker 1: to have the running game, he had to have the
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Speaker 1: strong So how different are they? I know nobody will
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Speaker 1: hear this one he indeed signs. If he signs, this
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Speaker 1: guy is not elite. You're not signing all pro guy.
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Speaker 1: And and then you know, I know nobody will put
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Speaker 1: that to bed, but we may as well put it
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Speaker 1: to bed. He's not gonna be that guy. In the
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Speaker 1: year that he took the Eagles the Super Bowl, he
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Speaker 1: had a bad first playoff game. They want it, but
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Speaker 1: I remember watching that game. It was night before the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars played the Steelers and beat him. He was barely
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Speaker 1: won that game. They got out. It wasn't like there
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Speaker 1: was this dynamic quarterback president after that game, but he won.
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Speaker 1: So he is a guy who in the playoff game
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Speaker 1: last year against New Orleans Hot start bad for a
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Speaker 1: couple of quarters, a clutch at the end. If you
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Speaker 1: can get him into a situation where you need clutched
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Speaker 1: quarterback play, he's not gonna choke. He has the capability
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Speaker 1: of being very cool under pressure. But he is not
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Speaker 1: a guy I don't think who is going to carry
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Speaker 1: the team on his back and be a you know, Rogers,
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Speaker 1: even to Matt Ryan level. Got somebody asked me in
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Speaker 1: the ozone the other day what I thought of him.
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Speaker 1: I said, I don't expect him be a pride of
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars guy. And I got some emails after that saying, well,
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Speaker 1: why in the world would be Well, it's hard to
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Speaker 1: get in the pride. Brunel was what seven years, three
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, four playoff appearances. You take that in a
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Speaker 1: minute from this guy. I don't expect that from Nicholes.
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Speaker 1: I expect improvement, and he's the best available to help
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Speaker 1: them improve at the position. He's got a bigger arm
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Speaker 1: than play, but he's not as mobile as Play. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's not a guy who runs around. Although he did
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Speaker 1: have that touchdown in the Super Bowl that everyone will
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Speaker 1: point to if he starts sixteen games, there's gonna be
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Speaker 1: ups and downs. There's gonna be Mondays where people go,
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Speaker 1: why in the world do we signed this guy? Because
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Speaker 1: you're not going sixteen Now, there's gonna be disappointments. But
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Speaker 1: you know, of the sake of arguments, say Blake's as
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Speaker 1: bad as people think. I don't think he's the best
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Speaker 1: people think, but say he's thirty two folds maybe fifteen.
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Speaker 1: But he's better than that. So you hope that you
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Speaker 1: can get better at that position enough to help everything
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Speaker 1: else that you have. Funk. Now, The thing about him, though,
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Speaker 1: is is that he had great weapons around him. On offense.
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Speaker 1: He had a big receiver, right, he had speed at receiver. Also,
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Speaker 1: he had tight ends. I mean, zach Ertz here's tight
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Speaker 1: ends in that offense in Philadelphia when Foles was playing quarterback,
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Speaker 1: we're targeted nearly ten times. Again, you don't have that.
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Speaker 1: Here is your tight end. You don't have one. He
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Speaker 1: was standing on a podium last week. I hope yeah.
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Speaker 1: Pretends the importance of draft attention. So right, the idea
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Speaker 1: that he comes in here and immediately changes your fortunes
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Speaker 1: seems ridiculous to me. But he makes you better, you
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Speaker 1: would think. But you've got to put the weapons around him.
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Speaker 1: Now your draft becomes around who are you giving him
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Speaker 1: to throw too and he's protecting him on offensive line?
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Speaker 1: Or are you taking his quarterback? Well? And that does
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Speaker 1: bring us to this important point, and that is that
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Speaker 1: he's a free agent. They're going to release him. He
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Speaker 1: can go where he wants to go. Now, the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: may be the most attractive place for him to go.
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Speaker 1: Who knows. But and if you follow the Jaggers close,
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Speaker 1: you've heard these names, Giants, Redskins, Dolphins, maybe the Bengals.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there are other teams. There may be a
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Speaker 1: team laying in the weeds out there who no one
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Speaker 1: is even contemplating that may say, you know what, let's
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Speaker 1: call Nick Foles. Let's see and if the bidding gets
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Speaker 1: too high, you think this team would have to be
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Speaker 1: really judicious because they still are just barely above the
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Speaker 1: cap and they don't want to gut their roster. There's
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Speaker 1: no point to gut your roster and bring him in. No,
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Speaker 1: you're not in the position to overpay right now. So
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Speaker 1: it's something to keep in mind, is that even though
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Speaker 1: the media firestorm has him coming here. And there's when
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Speaker 1: as many people, Johnny, You've done in the sera time,
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Speaker 1: when there's as many people who are all quoting reports,
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Speaker 1: sources saying he's coming here. Here's a little smoke, there
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Speaker 1: may be a little fire. It's certainly a way it's
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Speaker 1: leaning right now. But there's still the March eleventh day
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Speaker 1: of the tampering. We still haven't hit when phones can
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Speaker 1: actually next Monday legally rang yet. Uh. I think he's
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Speaker 1: coming here, and I think it's a hold your breath move,
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Speaker 1: but I think it's one they have to make because
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Speaker 1: you have to get better at the position somehow. And
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Speaker 1: they pretty much played their hand, showed their hand when
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Speaker 1: they decided they were going to keep Calais and restructure Morsel.
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Speaker 1: They're telling you we've got a defense we can win with.
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Speaker 1: When I said that last week at the combine, they uh,
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Speaker 1: Dave Carl Well in no way thinks this is a
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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty proposition. This is not two This is
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Speaker 1: the thing where they have to go win now, and uh,
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Speaker 1: veteran quarterback adds up to a better chance to win
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Speaker 1: now than rookie quarterback apparently in their mind, before we
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Speaker 1: hit a big thing to you mentioned franchise changing, and
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Speaker 1: if they do sign him, it will be a huge
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Speaker 1: moment next week for this team. Yeah, it's uh you
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Speaker 1: we've both done this since ninety five around here, I
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Speaker 1: had a ten year gap. They've never done this. They
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Speaker 1: have never brought in big time free agent quarterback to
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Speaker 1: my knowledge, is there anything like that that you can remember?
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Speaker 1: I don't know know that this would be the biggest.
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Speaker 1: It's always been biggest except for Mark, who was basically
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Speaker 1: a young kid nobody knew about. But they've never brought
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Speaker 1: in a high profile guy, not like this, not a
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Speaker 1: former Super Bowl m v P. You know this is
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Speaker 1: um you hope it is your Drew Brees moment. Remember
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Speaker 1: when the Saints went and got Drew Brees. At that point,
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Speaker 1: all they knew was this was a smaller quarterback with
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Speaker 1: a shoulder injury that had scared some teams off, and
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Speaker 1: that the team that drafted him had already replaced him
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Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers and so you know, here's a talented guy.
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Speaker 1: Let's see. Well, but no one quite knew. But everyone
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Speaker 1: was excited in New Orleans because it was the first
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Speaker 1: time they I mean, they brought in Kenny Stabler in
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Speaker 1: the early eighties. He was at the end. This was
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Speaker 1: the first time they had gone out and done that
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Speaker 1: and it changed their fortunes. And don't get too locked
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Speaker 1: into well, there's be a lot of stats. Well this
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Speaker 1: has never worked. This, there's no blueprint for this. There's
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Speaker 1: really no blueprint for getting your quarterback period. So you're
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Speaker 1: always fishing a little bit. We'll see if they catch
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Speaker 1: a big fish. Analogy job. If they can't catch the
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Speaker 1: fish because the price gets too high, that brings us
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Speaker 1: a big thing to write. The college kids. Friday at
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Speaker 1: the Comby was podium day for college quarterbacks and if
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Speaker 1: you stood out, one of them was not Kyler Murray
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Speaker 1: to me at least, and we'll get to that later.
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Speaker 1: Two of them did stand out, thoughing about their confidence
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Speaker 1: getting ready for the league. That was Dwayne Haskins and
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Speaker 1: Will Greer. I'm not worried about it. I know I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna do well in the interviews that I've done so far,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw really well tomorrow. So I'm just
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Speaker 1: looking forward to just showing that I'm the best quarterback
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Speaker 1: in the class. I'm not worry about Kyler worried by
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Speaker 1: me Um, you know, I'm gonna do what I need
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Speaker 1: to do in meetings and on the field tomorrow and
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Speaker 1: show Incase my talents. I know I'm a franchise quarterback,
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Speaker 1: and you know I'm gonna be really great quarterback in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Now that's at my level of player kind
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Speaker 1: of rises in those moments. Um, I want the ball
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Speaker 1: in my hands. The fourth down in Texas, the fourth
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Speaker 1: down at Oklahoma State, the fourth and one at the
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech game. You're talking, but I want the ball
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Speaker 1: in my hands to go get the first down and
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Speaker 1: go get the touched on whatever we need to win
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Speaker 1: the game. That's important. I mean, I'm the leader of
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Speaker 1: the team. It's it's I wanted, like I said, I
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Speaker 1: wanted on my shoulders, and I deliver when it matters.
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Speaker 1: So there are two guys who you know look like
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Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks. The snooky no Will Greer Storres haircut the
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Speaker 1: like I think the beard sets it and it makes
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Speaker 1: him stand out. After the press conference, Max, I go
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Speaker 1: up to Max and Max goes, what's with the hair?
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Speaker 1: It's his thing. It's got something going there. So the
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray thing, I mean right now, coming out of
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Speaker 1: the combine, I understand anything like, Wow, it's amazing. I
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Speaker 1: mean it was like like somebody put all the coal. Really. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was like a stampede. You couldn't see him though
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Speaker 1: when everyone got around him. Ryan, right, moral the story
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Speaker 1: problem he makes jokes, he got it. I don't get it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I I understand that everybody's out there looking
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Speaker 1: for the next my home. Everybody's looking for the next
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Speaker 1: name of playing. Pat Malmes is six three. This kid.
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Speaker 1: You can make all the comparisons, you can say everything
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Speaker 1: you want about Russell Wilson did it h And there
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Speaker 1: is a chance that this kid plays similar to Russell Wilson.
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Speaker 1: But you're talking about one guy who's ever done it.
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Speaker 1: That's Russell Wilson. He's never really played like that at
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Speaker 1: a high level. So some team's gonna take the chance
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Speaker 1: on him. I wouldn't because of the height. Maybe you
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Speaker 1: think there's you know how this one goes right now?
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're maybe the number one overall pick,
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Speaker 1: but somebody in the top ten is going to take
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Speaker 1: a chance on yeah, I mean, what does that give
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars a chance to sit still? Let's just say
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Speaker 1: fools ends up signing with Washington, right, does that give
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars a chance to sit still and take Haskets,
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Speaker 1: Because in theory it could, but the risk would be
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Speaker 1: too great. Meaning everything you heard of the combine, and
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Speaker 1: is it the Giants and Dave Gettleman are gonna take Haskin,
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Speaker 1: that they're that they're going with Eli for a year
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Speaker 1: and and and if they want Haskins. So I think
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Speaker 1: you've got to jump the Giants. If you're gonna do that.
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Speaker 1: Now the question would become when you would jump the Giants.
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Speaker 1: It's risky to do it before the draft because if
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Speaker 1: you only go up to two, they can go up
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Speaker 1: to one, you know, So you've got to decide. That's
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Speaker 1: a tricky proposition unless you're going to one and taking
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Speaker 1: everything else off the table, unless if the Cardinals come
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Speaker 1: out and say, okay, we're taking uh Murray, then you
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Speaker 1: have to get to number two. But you obviously have
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Speaker 1: to get to that point where you know everything, how
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Speaker 1: areything is going to fall off ahead of you? Uh
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Speaker 1: So Haskins is the kid I want um and Lock
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Speaker 1: would be next. Lock was impressive at the combine. Locks
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Speaker 1: made all the throws. Everything you hear about Lock is
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Speaker 1: that I think some people are underestimating because of the
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Speaker 1: Missouri connection. There's a little bit of a Blaine Gabbert
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Speaker 1: stigma there. Um, I think they could easily stay at
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Speaker 1: seven and get either Haskins or Lock even if they
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Speaker 1: you know, they signed fold. I think that's what they
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Speaker 1: should do. I don't think it's what they will do
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Speaker 1: if they signed Folds. Yeah. Drew Lucky was funny at
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Speaker 1: his press conference. He talked about having a chip on
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Speaker 1: his shoulder, about being from Missouri and playing in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the country and no one gives them the
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Speaker 1: respect he deserves because he's not playing in California. In
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Speaker 1: the se scene. It reminded me a lot of the
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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen Jaguars with the chip on their shoulder.
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Speaker 1: He kept going back to have to prove myself. I
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Speaker 1: have to prove myself. That's why I'm throwing at the
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Speaker 1: combine and that's why I'm doing all this stuff. It
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Speaker 1: was a weird comparison to these Jags from two years ago.
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, kid from there's something about the Duke thing,
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Speaker 1: and I talked some scouts that I've known for a
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Speaker 1: long time, just different guys around the league. Um, they're
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Speaker 1: not sure why. There there's a lot of people out
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Speaker 1: there who liked Daniel Jones as much as anybody, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's not getting the buzz because I guess he's
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Speaker 1: not named Kyler Murray um. So I'd be surprised if
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Speaker 1: Jones isn't in the first round. I don't think the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars can wait to take him at thirty eight or
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Speaker 1: thirty nine. But ah, you've both seen all this happen enough.
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Speaker 1: There's so much Combine talk. Somebody in the next couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks, we'll say something about Daniel Jones to reflect
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Speaker 1: what I've been hearing at the combine, some national guy,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Daniel Jones will be back
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Speaker 1: in that conversation. That's sort of how it works. Somebody
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Speaker 1: says that, or there's a pro day and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, he'll be the hot guy at some point
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Speaker 1: enough to get over these other guys. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but I think there's four guys who have legitimate chances
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Speaker 1: you go in the top fifteen. Well, if you remember,
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was still a bit of an unknown coming
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Speaker 1: out of the combine, and that's when he started his climb.
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Speaker 1: I mean and he finished number two, so that's pretty good.
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Speaker 1: And Jones is obviously a big, strong guy. Who I mean,
17:39
Speaker 1: that's a really attractive style of quarterback six ft five
17:43
Speaker 1: thirty pounds, good arm. I don't know that there's a
17:46
Speaker 1: great arm. I suppose very much like Eli in terms
17:48
Speaker 1: of his style of player. I don't think he'll get
17:50
Speaker 1: as high as I don't he gets high as Haskins.
17:52
Speaker 1: But um, could you still keep hearing about lock in
17:56
Speaker 1: the top ten and a lot goes top ten? And
18:01
Speaker 1: it wouldn't stun me if that was the direction that
18:04
Speaker 1: Jaguars went, if they decided to go a quarterback at
18:07
Speaker 1: seven and didn't trade out, could you see him taking
18:09
Speaker 1: a quarterback at two? Or if if they're going if
18:11
Speaker 1: they're going to pass it at seven, assuming fools comes,
18:15
Speaker 1: they two is too valuable for a skill position player
18:19
Speaker 1: or an offensive linement, I mean the top of the
18:21
Speaker 1: second round. Um, I don't think so, only because my
18:26
Speaker 1: theory would be, if you're taking a quarterback on the
18:29
Speaker 1: first day, it means you believe that you need to
18:33
Speaker 1: invest in the position right at the which they do well.
18:38
Speaker 1: But if you've got a quarterback, but you're saying that
18:42
Speaker 1: you need to invest in the position with something that
18:45
Speaker 1: will prevent you from having something on the field next
18:49
Speaker 1: year that could improve you. Right, so you're taking away
18:51
Speaker 1: from next year, you're making you're paying a cost. Well,
18:55
Speaker 1: if if you're going to pay that cost, then I
18:58
Speaker 1: think you're trying to get a I who will be
19:01
Speaker 1: significant helped And I don't think you play that cost
19:03
Speaker 1: on a flyer. So I think if you're gonna do that,
19:06
Speaker 1: you go in the first round because the second round, Uh,
19:09
Speaker 1: historically that's as much of a flyer as the fourth round.
19:12
Speaker 1: It's your chances of getting greatness, and that's what you
19:17
Speaker 1: would want if you're going to take away helping yourself
19:21
Speaker 1: on the field immediately, your chance of getting greatness in
19:23
Speaker 1: the top ten. All right, well that's that leads us
19:25
Speaker 1: then three. That's my theory beginning. I've said it's football wrong.
19:33
Speaker 1: Guys on the other side of the whole are wrong
19:34
Speaker 1: plenty too. I've said from the game though, that you
19:37
Speaker 1: don't want to pass on a guy. This franchise in
19:40
Speaker 1: two thousand four had a young Byron Leftwige and then
19:43
Speaker 1: there was still some doubt about whether he was the
19:45
Speaker 1: guy or not, but they passed on Ben Roethlisberger. Forget
19:48
Speaker 1: that they did it, you know, ridiculously for Reggie Williams
19:51
Speaker 1: the next year. They were pretty certain Byron was going
19:54
Speaker 1: to be a project and it may or may not
19:55
Speaker 1: work out. They passed on near Rogers, right. What I
19:57
Speaker 1: don't want to see happen is then pass on a
20:00
Speaker 1: guy that you're gonna go. Oh, and we might be
20:03
Speaker 1: talking about DeShawn Watson and Patrick Mahomes around here now
20:06
Speaker 1: for years to come. Bowles comes in if he does,
20:11
Speaker 1: and yes, he makes you better and helps fit with
20:12
Speaker 1: your roster where you are right now. But don't pass
20:14
Speaker 1: on that guy, right because now you don't know is
20:19
Speaker 1: how they feel about that. We don't know what their
20:21
Speaker 1: grading system is. Maybe they don't think either one of
20:23
Speaker 1: these guys is worthy of the conversation because you know,
20:26
Speaker 1: the the counter argument to what you just said it
20:31
Speaker 1: as they passed on a lot of junk in those
20:32
Speaker 1: years too. You just don't know if you're you know,
20:35
Speaker 1: it's a crystal ball business like you still gotta get lucky.
20:37
Speaker 1: But I I'm with you. I would go quarterback at
20:42
Speaker 1: number seven no matter what, because I'm looking more at
20:43
Speaker 1: the long term. Uh, And I always doubt how much
20:47
Speaker 1: a rookie, outside of the running back position and maybe
20:51
Speaker 1: offensive line, how much rookie is really going to help
20:53
Speaker 1: you immediately. Top seven would have a chance, correc or
20:58
Speaker 1: long run would be more valuable. That's what I would do.
21:01
Speaker 1: But as I sit on a radio show or somebody
21:04
Speaker 1: last week, at some point, you're gonna be sitting in
21:07
Speaker 1: that draft room and you're going to be thinking about, boy,
21:12
Speaker 1: we need to win football games now. And I just
21:15
Speaker 1: don't know if the temptation to take something that will
21:18
Speaker 1: help you now will be too great to go long term.
21:21
Speaker 1: I doubt they do it. I think they go short
21:23
Speaker 1: term now. Big thing three is do it on defense.
21:28
Speaker 1: This is one of the best draft class we've seen
21:30
Speaker 1: in a while. For pass rushers, you have Nick Bosim
21:33
Speaker 1: on test sweat Josh Allen. Steve Weich from NFL Network says,
21:37
Speaker 1: regardless of how talented you are at that position, there's
21:40
Speaker 1: never a chance to have too many of those guys.
21:43
Speaker 1: If they're that good, you have to grab especially it
21:44
Speaker 1: comes to pass rushers because one, they get expensive once
21:48
Speaker 1: you get into that fifth year. So if you can
21:49
Speaker 1: get a rookie, if you can get a young player
21:51
Speaker 1: to give you four good years on a rookie contract,
21:54
Speaker 1: you absolutely grab them financially. And then again, you can
21:58
Speaker 1: never run short pass rushers. Look at the division where
22:01
Speaker 1: you've got to Shaun and Watson, You've got Andrew Luck,
22:03
Speaker 1: you've got Marcus Mariota. You have got to put pressure
22:05
Speaker 1: on those guys. Pressure causes mistakes, and as we know
22:08
Speaker 1: on the back end, the Jags have the players to
22:10
Speaker 1: capitalize on those mistakes. You know, so if this again,
22:15
Speaker 1: we're playing with all sorts of assumptions here, at least
22:17
Speaker 1: for the next week. Under this assumption scenario, call it
22:20
Speaker 1: nick Foles is here. So they decided they're gonna go
22:24
Speaker 1: to the short term and they're not going to take
22:25
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Taking a receiver or a tight end at
22:29
Speaker 1: number seven does not give you, at least historically, has
22:33
Speaker 1: not given you the sort of return that you expect
22:35
Speaker 1: if you're short term. So then it comes down to
22:37
Speaker 1: offensive line or defensive line. Could you see this team,
22:41
Speaker 1: despite the need on offense, pulling the trigger on defense
22:46
Speaker 1: in the first round. I would put the most likely
22:48
Speaker 1: snare of how it's gonna play out as signing Nick Foles,
22:53
Speaker 1: drafting Joan Taylor and not drafting the best tight end
22:57
Speaker 1: available in the second round, and I'm just going out
23:00
Speaker 1: John Taylor as theoretical best offensive lineman available, whoever that is.
23:05
Speaker 1: I think they're going quarterback there, and then offensive line,
23:09
Speaker 1: which which can get on the field immediately, and then
23:11
Speaker 1: tight end, which they are so desperate. I would lean
23:13
Speaker 1: towards tight end in the top ten, even though it's unconventional,
23:16
Speaker 1: but Slynn was there as well. The feeling is there's
23:21
Speaker 1: eight or nine tight ends around the top half of
23:24
Speaker 1: the draft, then get on the field and help you
23:26
Speaker 1: right away. I wouldn't. I don't love the idea of
23:30
Speaker 1: going after a tight end as much as it's been
23:33
Speaker 1: a need around here. If there's a guy who stands
23:36
Speaker 1: out as the best, go ahead and go get him,
23:38
Speaker 1: because you've got to at some point, you've got to
23:39
Speaker 1: get that position better. But I would be surprised if
23:44
Speaker 1: they go defensive end. But I wouldn't be shocked because
23:48
Speaker 1: of Coughlin's affinity for that style of building meaning and
23:53
Speaker 1: New Well and in New York. What was the one
23:57
Speaker 1: constant of those two Super Bowl wins. They could come
23:59
Speaker 1: at you in waves. It felt like they were playing
24:01
Speaker 1: fifteen defensive alignment and it felt like they were all
24:04
Speaker 1: first round picks after the core. That's an exaggeration, but
24:07
Speaker 1: that was the style. So philosophically it would make sense
24:12
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter if you already got two starters
24:15
Speaker 1: who are pass rushers. You can still get the third
24:17
Speaker 1: guy in the field. You can still have a huge impact. Philosophically,
24:21
Speaker 1: that wouldn't surprise me. But I would still be surprised
24:23
Speaker 1: if they go away from line tight end in the
24:26
Speaker 1: first two ends, right, But I'd be stunned if it
24:28
Speaker 1: was a tight end in the top ten because you know,
24:31
Speaker 1: I got wind last year that the research that they
24:34
Speaker 1: had done. So, in other words, don't look too hard
24:37
Speaker 1: at at Dallas Goddard, right, because the research that they
24:41
Speaker 1: had done showed them that rookie tight ends don't make
24:44
Speaker 1: a big impact. Right, But when somebody proves wrong, like
24:46
Speaker 1: god are, it's worth looking. But okay, so you know,
24:49
Speaker 1: the highest drafted tight end in the twenty four years
24:53
Speaker 1: that the jag Wars have been in this league, Britan
24:55
Speaker 1: Davis catches his rookie year twenty. But if the game
25:01
Speaker 1: is changing to have a five one quarterback got number
25:06
Speaker 1: one overall, I'm not sure about that. I guess what
25:09
Speaker 1: I'm saying is then change enough to make that tight
25:12
Speaker 1: end position, which is if I'm key today, if I'm
25:15
Speaker 1: betting on, if I'm trying to predict what Tom Coughlin wants,
25:19
Speaker 1: they're going offensive lineman at seven right, because he's a
25:25
Speaker 1: big guy guy right. I mean, there's only so many
25:27
Speaker 1: big guys on the planet with three like a Jawan
25:30
Speaker 1: Taylor or Jonah Williams has right and in fact, they
25:32
Speaker 1: think there's a bunch of tight ends you can help
25:34
Speaker 1: you bet and the other I would just at some
25:37
Speaker 1: point like to see this franchise have a guy at
25:40
Speaker 1: that spot where you say that's our tight end for you.
25:43
Speaker 1: Because I think the league is changing, it would not
25:46
Speaker 1: surprise me to see them try to get too tight
25:49
Speaker 1: ends a free agent Jesse James and a rookie. I
25:54
Speaker 1: think they may go the way the Patriots went when
25:55
Speaker 1: they had Hernandez, and well maybe they of back then
26:00
Speaker 1: in the first round. Who knows, maybe they can get back.
26:02
Speaker 1: Although I don't know if there's anyone worth coming up
26:04
Speaker 1: to seven four. But the tight ends it looks like,
26:07
Speaker 1: and the receivers all kind of clumped together, you're the
26:10
Speaker 1: best one to do right around the start of the
26:12
Speaker 1: second round, so you can get a lot of that
26:14
Speaker 1: kind of work done, but the big guys don't last.
26:17
Speaker 1: We'll see, all right, thank you're probably right, probably right.
26:21
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26:31
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26:35
Speaker 1: break when we come back, we'll look at some other
26:36
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Speaker 1: I watched Hawkinson on tape the day after seeing the
28:33
Speaker 1: Patriots beat the Chargers in the playoffs in person. They're
28:36
Speaker 1: calling that game for the radio and I'm watching number man.
28:39
Speaker 1: Cronk dominated this game. He didn't really have to catch
28:42
Speaker 1: the football. He did it with what he did blocking
28:44
Speaker 1: in the run game. UM so physical. And then the
28:46
Speaker 1: next day actually on the flight from there to Tampa
28:49
Speaker 1: for the East West game, I watched the tape and
28:51
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this guy's dominating the college game as
28:54
Speaker 1: a blocker. So that's a unique situation. Plus Now he's
28:57
Speaker 1: not as big as Gronk and as tall as Drunk,
28:59
Speaker 1: but he's a good route. Honnery catches everything. I just
29:01
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of value with that in the
29:03
Speaker 1: NFL right now. And then his teammate, No, a Fan,
29:05
Speaker 1: is just he's just a piece of dynamite. I mean,
29:07
Speaker 1: he's explosive, really stretched the scene. He's going to generate
29:10
Speaker 1: a lot of big plays in the passing game. So
29:13
Speaker 1: I get asked, you know, who were the players that
29:14
Speaker 1: can help some of these young quarterbacks in the NFL
29:16
Speaker 1: that we have so many these second year quarterbacks. And
29:19
Speaker 1: to me, I look at the tight ends. Those two
29:21
Speaker 1: guys I mentioned, and I also put IRV Smith in
29:23
Speaker 1: there from from Alabama. Those guys are gonna be huge
29:26
Speaker 1: assets to a young quarterback. Combined. Almost an overloaded information,
29:30
Speaker 1: isn't it. So many people, so many opinions, so many numbers,
29:34
Speaker 1: so many players. You remember a few weeks ago and
29:36
Speaker 1: I said, Daniel Jeremiah, that man likes his tight ends.
29:39
Speaker 1: He does. You saw it right there. I do remember that. Laugh.
29:45
Speaker 1: Of course, the fan kid who's running right here, that's
29:48
Speaker 1: the one that most people think has the chance to
29:49
Speaker 1: be the best tight end out of this group, and
29:51
Speaker 1: two weeks ago you barely heard his name over T J.
29:53
Speaker 1: Hawkins and his teammate Hawkinson certainly has You know, he
29:57
Speaker 1: had a couple of clips this year of of what
29:59
Speaker 1: he did to eyes on the line of scrimmage that
30:02
Speaker 1: had every analyst talking about him. However, I think fancy
30:05
Speaker 1: the guy with much more upside. Well, he certainly is
30:09
Speaker 1: the receiver dynamic out of the two, he ran like
30:13
Speaker 1: a four eight four fast. The reason that Hockinson feels
30:25
Speaker 1: like this team it's so hard to find. I would
30:29
Speaker 1: say they're a diamond dozen. It's easier to find the
30:33
Speaker 1: the pure pass catching tight end than it is to
30:36
Speaker 1: find the guy who can do both. Hockinson feels like
30:39
Speaker 1: the one guy who has a chance to be what
30:43
Speaker 1: uh what, Brian, you and I think of as the
30:47
Speaker 1: old school tight end and you know, the guy who
30:49
Speaker 1: can do both. The Hall of Fame level player usually
30:52
Speaker 1: has to be the guy who can do both at
30:54
Speaker 1: at some level better chance. Hockinson feels more like that
30:57
Speaker 1: versatile guy. Um just feels so weird to me because
31:01
Speaker 1: I've already had the guy who can do Julius Thomas
31:04
Speaker 1: was already the guy who Okay, he's in the field.
31:06
Speaker 1: Well you have a third white out right, So that
31:09
Speaker 1: was almost useless. The interesting thing to me twenty years ago,
31:14
Speaker 1: Gnzalez was hanging out in this hallway right outside our
31:17
Speaker 1: studio here and he went overall, well, he's a I
31:20
Speaker 1: mean sure, first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, the
31:23
Speaker 1: guy's as good as you'll find. I look at Hockinson
31:26
Speaker 1: and Fant and these guys who were being thought of
31:29
Speaker 1: his first round picks there are nowhere near his class. Well,
31:31
Speaker 1: the position has I think added value. I mean it's
31:37
Speaker 1: it's much more accepted as you have to have it
31:39
Speaker 1: now that you have, so I think it's a different
31:43
Speaker 1: So need is more important than value. Yea, Gonzalez was
31:48
Speaker 1: a rocky, sure thing hall and he had very few flaws,
31:57
Speaker 1: and as I recall from that draft, it was acknowledged
32:01
Speaker 1: that he was going to be a big time player
32:02
Speaker 1: for a long time. If he was coming at now,
32:04
Speaker 1: I might be top five, even even not knowing what
32:07
Speaker 1: his career, same circumstances, same thought. A tight end who
32:11
Speaker 1: was that perfect, if you will, would probably a top
32:14
Speaker 1: five pick as opposed to thirteen highest and tight ends
32:16
Speaker 1: ever been drafted. You know, it's it's Davis six, right,
32:20
Speaker 1: Oh no, No. Ron Kramer in fifty seven was drafted
32:23
Speaker 1: fourth by the Green Bay Pack, and then Mike Ditka
32:25
Speaker 1: went fifth in sixty to the Bears, and Riley Odams
32:28
Speaker 1: went fifth, and then you have to jump all the
32:30
Speaker 1: way to Kellen Winslow Jr. Who went six in oh
32:35
Speaker 1: four and Vernon Davis who went six in oh six,
32:39
Speaker 1: and asked, men, tell you right? They Odems had a
32:40
Speaker 1: long career in Denver, an expert. There's a lot of people,
32:46
Speaker 1: Riley who But the reality of it is at the
32:48
Speaker 1: position as you had. Hey, look, there were twenty four
32:52
Speaker 1: players I'm sorry, twenty six tight ends wrapped in the
32:54
Speaker 1: first round over the last twenty four years. I mean
32:56
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the time of the Jaguars AND's some
32:58
Speaker 1: really good ones, the estup which was Tony gain Tala.
33:02
Speaker 1: I maybe this isn't the right way to compare it,
33:05
Speaker 1: but I'm not taking T. J. Hockenson or No a
33:07
Speaker 1: fan at seven. They're not in the class. They've got
33:11
Speaker 1: to be that good. But if you they would be
33:17
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis. Your picks for one, unless you want to trade,
33:22
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think it will happen.
33:24
Speaker 1: I can see the argument much more now than I
33:25
Speaker 1: could have ten years ago, especially the game changes. It's
33:28
Speaker 1: just yeah, the thing that doesn't change, though, the big guys.
33:32
Speaker 1: So we want to talk about some weapons here, and
33:35
Speaker 1: we'll start with a guy who's making everybody's list, and
33:37
Speaker 1: that's DK Metcalf, the kid from Old miss Uh six
33:41
Speaker 1: three and a half almost almost six four two thirty pounds,
33:44
Speaker 1: ran up four three three, had a forty and a
33:47
Speaker 1: half inch vertical bench pressed seven times. I mean, if
33:52
Speaker 1: there was a guy who rose up the draft boards
33:55
Speaker 1: at the combine, no one rose faster than him. And
33:57
Speaker 1: if if I was an NFL scout, which by the way,
34:02
Speaker 1: I'm not lynn Um, if I had him fifteen before
34:07
Speaker 1: the combine, I would take attack and put him right
34:10
Speaker 1: at fifteen. I would be very scared of pushing him
34:14
Speaker 1: up based on that. If he thought he was good
34:17
Speaker 1: before five. But just because he came in digging strong,
34:20
Speaker 1: I mean beg and strong doesn't mean great. Look at me,
34:22
Speaker 1: I'm not great, but I am ripped. It's I get
34:27
Speaker 1: that he ran fast, I get that he had a
34:31
Speaker 1: great combin. He scares me on that front. If you're
34:36
Speaker 1: pushing him up based on what he did in any
34:38
Speaker 1: of it. If you liked him anyway, fine, well pro
34:40
Speaker 1: Day is gonna have a lot to say with it.
34:41
Speaker 1: Can he run the four three three? You know outdoors
34:44
Speaker 1: on grass at will Miss. When he does use pro Day,
34:46
Speaker 1: he'll be fast. I mean he can go deep. The
34:49
Speaker 1: question on him is the neck injury, route running ability
34:52
Speaker 1: as well consistency in college. Some of his teammates at
34:55
Speaker 1: the Common I forget which one said he did what
34:58
Speaker 1: he was asked to do. Old Mrs Offense didn't ask
35:01
Speaker 1: him to do a lot of short and intermediate stuff,
35:03
Speaker 1: is my understanding. So can he do that? Uh? Yes,
35:08
Speaker 1: he's big, Yes, he's strong. Yes he can go down
35:10
Speaker 1: field if that's all you can do. Uh, he may
35:14
Speaker 1: be really fast, jailing can run with him, so as
35:18
Speaker 1: fast as you are in the NFL. It's very hard
35:21
Speaker 1: in this day and age to just get by on fast,
35:24
Speaker 1: strong downfield. You gotta be able to do everything. Can
35:26
Speaker 1: he do everything? He's clearly the top receiver in this class.
35:30
Speaker 1: I mean Marky's brown comparatively speaking, a kid from Oklahoma.
35:34
Speaker 1: I mean it's really small and he's five ft nine.
35:36
Speaker 1: He's he's not that small. He's he's like his quarter pain.
35:40
Speaker 1: He's also hurt, which right he had with five one.
35:43
Speaker 1: But I mean, now, now you gotta get to the
35:45
Speaker 1: second round. Just start talking about legitimate spots for the A. G.
35:48
Speaker 1: Brown kid from Old miss who's the other uh and
35:51
Speaker 1: Keel Harry from Arizona State, they're they're the kid from
35:55
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Starting to shoot. You wonder how far Brown
35:58
Speaker 1: will slip. Brown is going into the after with an injury,
36:01
Speaker 1: which you would hope for his sake, wouldn't push him
36:04
Speaker 1: too far down. But he'll go to, you know, the
36:07
Speaker 1: first round. So we'll see with Metcalf. The comparisons to college,
36:11
Speaker 1: the consistency. Everyone's talking about him being the next Tulio
36:13
Speaker 1: Jones and Calvin Johnson. But you heard about those guys
36:16
Speaker 1: so much in college, and I feel like we didn't
36:17
Speaker 1: hear that much about this guy in college. You didn't
36:19
Speaker 1: hear anybody putting him on the heisman. Everyone knew that
36:22
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson was going to be a star. By the way,
36:24
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson twenty pounds heavier than not because he was thirteen.
36:30
Speaker 1: He waited at two forty at the combine, jumped four
36:32
Speaker 1: inches higher than this kid didn't ran just as fast.
36:35
Speaker 1: I mean, Calvin Johnson was a freak of my fanks.
36:37
Speaker 1: He this guy looks the part right now. Whether he
36:40
Speaker 1: can play the part or not. As you mentioned, he
36:42
Speaker 1: didn't do it all miss because the neck injury. We'll
36:44
Speaker 1: see if he's he doesn't feel to me like immediate
36:50
Speaker 1: impact guy on the level. If you're thinking that his
36:54
Speaker 1: combine means he's going to translate into yards, eight catches
36:58
Speaker 1: and thirteen touchdowns the next year, I think you're I
37:00
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be disciplined. I think it's worth noting
37:02
Speaker 1: since Calvin Johnson is one of the better receivers that
37:04
Speaker 1: we've seen in the modern era. H he only had
37:06
Speaker 1: forty eight catches in seven fifty six yards and four
37:09
Speaker 1: touchdowns in his rookie season. Is the number one overall
37:11
Speaker 1: pick in two thousand seven. So the thought about a
37:14
Speaker 1: receiver coming in and totally transforming your offense, it's really rare.
37:18
Speaker 1: And you have been the one who's beat that drum
37:20
Speaker 1: more often than not. I will beat a dead horse.
37:23
Speaker 1: Oh now that so there's the receiver. We talked a
37:26
Speaker 1: little bit about the tight ends. We're kind of giving
37:28
Speaker 1: you the numbers there. Um, just one thought Hackinson. Is
37:32
Speaker 1: he what he's gonna be? I mean, you hear about
37:35
Speaker 1: guys who are as good as they can is that
37:36
Speaker 1: they're already hit their ceiling. Does he look to you
37:39
Speaker 1: like a guy who's perhaps at his ceiling coming out
37:42
Speaker 1: of college. Um, I'd say you would think that it's
37:46
Speaker 1: it's uh, I'm thinking of another Dallas, another Iowa tight end,
37:51
Speaker 1: Dallas Clark. When I look at him, by the way, Well,
37:55
Speaker 1: Dallas wasn't as much of a blocker. Uh. I used
38:00
Speaker 1: to tease Dallas that his next block his first. He
38:02
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. But he would stick his head and
38:06
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't grind. I mean like he didn't uh
38:09
Speaker 1: blew people out of the water. Dallas was very much
38:11
Speaker 1: a third receiver typed in it, who could go in
38:14
Speaker 1: and block. This guy is more of a blocker who
38:16
Speaker 1: can go out and catch. Although I think he's more
38:18
Speaker 1: versatile than that. Um, I'm not. I don't know enough
38:22
Speaker 1: about his body type to know how much bigger he
38:24
Speaker 1: can get. I don't think he's Mark Bavarro in the
38:27
Speaker 1: sense that he's just gonna absolutely absolutely blow you away.
38:30
Speaker 1: But he does to me fit what these guys talk
38:34
Speaker 1: about wanting out of the tight end position. It's I
38:37
Speaker 1: think it was last year when Kaufin was talking about
38:39
Speaker 1: tight ends. The first thing he talks about is the
38:41
Speaker 1: difficulty to find a guy who can catch and who
38:44
Speaker 1: you can put him in as a interior line blocker
38:49
Speaker 1: and not give away what you're gonna do. If you
38:52
Speaker 1: have him on the field, the defense doesn't know what
38:54
Speaker 1: it's gonna what you're gonna do offensively. That's what they're
38:57
Speaker 1: looking for to what they haven't had. Yeah, Hawkinson and
39:00
Speaker 1: press conference at least seemed to want to stress NFL
39:02
Speaker 1: teams that he really enjoys block and they kept asking
39:05
Speaker 1: about his playmaking abilities. He said, yeah, I can catch,
39:07
Speaker 1: but I love to block, and stressed that that was
39:10
Speaker 1: what his favorite part of being about tight end was.
39:12
Speaker 1: If he is indeed that rare. If you if you
39:14
Speaker 1: can't find that guy, well then maybe he does go
39:17
Speaker 1: in the top ten. The only concern you have is
39:18
Speaker 1: when you said there and wash him speak, Um, he
39:24
Speaker 1: he didn't overwhelm you with how physically imposing he was. Um,
39:29
Speaker 1: Now I have a Dallas Clark thing. By the way,
39:32
Speaker 1: that the comparison is making because Dallas that big of
39:34
Speaker 1: a guy either. No, but he can. When the Colds
39:37
Speaker 1: drafted Dallas, they weren't thinking he was going to come
39:39
Speaker 1: in and be an inline blocker. They were thinking he
39:41
Speaker 1: was going to replace Marcus was the eventual you know who,
39:45
Speaker 1: same style with a little better Um. If I if
39:49
Speaker 1: you're gonna be that inline blocker guy in the NFL,
39:53
Speaker 1: you would think you'd feel more physically imposing. But from
39:56
Speaker 1: all reports and watching tape, he can do it, so
39:59
Speaker 1: we'll see. And then the other thing is the offensive linement.
40:01
Speaker 1: We talked about them, but uh, John Williams is more
40:04
Speaker 1: of a guard. Is that what you heard in uh
40:07
Speaker 1: in the Annapolis last week that he was a tackle
40:09
Speaker 1: at the tackle? Uh, there's a lot of talk about
40:12
Speaker 1: his arms, and you know, goodness gracious, they were an
40:16
Speaker 1: inch shorter in the norm, so it means he can't play. Uh.
40:20
Speaker 1: But right tackle or interior was sort of the book
40:27
Speaker 1: rather than left tackle. I didn't think they pushed him
40:29
Speaker 1: all the way down to guard. And I say pushed
40:30
Speaker 1: all the way down because usually it starts left tackle,
40:32
Speaker 1: right tackle, and then guard. UM can play right tackle
40:38
Speaker 1: might be more ideally suited. The interior was what you
40:40
Speaker 1: sort of got the vibe for after the arm like things. So,
40:44
Speaker 1: but there's been really great right tackles with that really
40:46
Speaker 1: long arms too. Sod seriously didn't have the longest arm right.
40:50
Speaker 1: His story is interesting though. I was reading that he
40:52
Speaker 1: was asked to move insider, play guard or center at
40:55
Speaker 1: Alabama and said, I was the best tackle in college football,
40:58
Speaker 1: the best left tackle, So why would I move in?
41:00
Speaker 1: They were asking him at the combine, you know what,
41:02
Speaker 1: you consider playing anything else but left tackle? He said, yeah,
41:04
Speaker 1: of course, I'll plan any where I am. But once again,
41:06
Speaker 1: I was the best left tackle in college football because
41:08
Speaker 1: they get paid the most. Right right, all right? And
41:10
Speaker 1: then the Taylor kid. I mean, you guys are both too.
41:14
Speaker 1: Did you follow the Taylor kid much? Yeah, he was
41:17
Speaker 1: hyped up of the offensive lineman. And let's clarify that
41:20
Speaker 1: point a little bit. We both went to Florida. Slenns
41:23
Speaker 1: a Gator. He's such a hater. I'm fine with Florida,
41:27
Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't claim to be the Gator
41:29
Speaker 1: that Shelena is. That's fair. He's a big cat. I
41:32
Speaker 1: won't put him on my level either. That is a
41:35
Speaker 1: big road grading. He's a big boy. I mean, he
41:37
Speaker 1: looks like he is the kind that would fit Doug
41:39
Speaker 1: Morone's mentality of let's put our hands on the ground
41:43
Speaker 1: to drive. This feels like an interesting class to me.
41:45
Speaker 1: And you can remember easily the time when if you
41:48
Speaker 1: had this many left tackles and there's a few near
41:51
Speaker 1: the top of the draft. John Taylor's one dealer from
41:54
Speaker 1: Washington State. There was a time in the NFL when
41:57
Speaker 1: if you had this many left tackles, they would automatically
42:00
Speaker 1: be talked about in the conversation the top five because
42:03
Speaker 1: the position was that important. Right now it's turned to
42:07
Speaker 1: where defensive line. It's an unusually good year for edge rushers,
42:12
Speaker 1: so that's why so many of them are at the top.
42:14
Speaker 1: But I think fifteen years ago Taylor would be talked
42:17
Speaker 1: about at the top five pick because the importance of
42:19
Speaker 1: the position now, left tackle is not the absolute premium
42:23
Speaker 1: spot that it was when Tony was Sally played and
42:25
Speaker 1: when Orlando Pace played in these guys, so it does
42:28
Speaker 1: seem like teams where the Jaguars are you can potentially
42:32
Speaker 1: get a big time left tackle where it might have
42:35
Speaker 1: cost you a top five pick to get that same
42:37
Speaker 1: guy a while back. You keep saying left tackle, but
42:39
Speaker 1: he's clearly a right tackle or tackle, Okay, right either side?
42:43
Speaker 1: All right, Just want to make sure we were on
42:44
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44:42
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44:44
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44:48
Speaker 1: of a decent offensive line if everybody comes back healthy,
44:50
Speaker 1: and have to upgrade the wide receiver position. But no,
44:52
Speaker 1: I think that you can see it's it's a good
44:54
Speaker 1: football team. It's a team don't went to a championship game.
44:56
Speaker 1: Two years ago, and then just right down the tubes
44:58
Speaker 1: that they got to fix that. And of course if
45:00
Speaker 1: it doesn't get fixed, then things get kind of fixed
45:03
Speaker 1: that aren't very positive in the front office. Stop guessing
45:06
Speaker 1: that he was one of the guys that just assumed
45:08
Speaker 1: that Nick Foles is here. Yeah, he was, though he
45:11
Speaker 1: was also kind of big on Haskins. He gave both scenarios. Yes, okay,
45:17
Speaker 1: time for the ozone, Time for the ozone, the zone.
45:32
Speaker 1: Nice clothes, Max, that was nice. Let's go to Matt
45:36
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. Folks speculating about Nick Foles being the next
45:40
Speaker 1: big thing in Jack's are blowing smoke. He flamed down
45:44
Speaker 1: and Philly flamed down in Casey flamed down in St. Louis.
45:47
Speaker 1: Foles is an excellent, if not the goat of backup quarterbacks.
45:51
Speaker 1: To expect him to come to Jacksonville and lead us
45:53
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl is wishful thinking. Go ahead, change
45:57
Speaker 1: my mind. Well, I don't necessarily think I can change
46:01
Speaker 1: his mind, first of all, because if if you're anti
46:03
Speaker 1: Folds for those reasons, you're not going to come off
46:06
Speaker 1: of it until he shows you differently. I don't disagree
46:09
Speaker 1: with a lot of what of what he said. I
46:12
Speaker 1: see Folds as the best available uh and over a
46:18
Speaker 1: twenty year period, when you look at the at the
46:21
Speaker 1: free agent quarterbacks, you're usually not going to get franchise guy. Guarantee.
46:30
Speaker 1: I know I'm improving the position and getting a top
46:33
Speaker 1: ten guy. We guess what, Top ten quarterbacks aren't available,
46:36
Speaker 1: so he's the best available option right now. They want
46:41
Speaker 1: to try to improve the position. I have no problem
46:43
Speaker 1: with the concept of going after him to try to
46:45
Speaker 1: upgrade it marginally. I don't think you're gonna see Blake
46:51
Speaker 1: just this mammoth difference, but I think you can get improvement.
46:54
Speaker 1: And I think he's a guy who can function well.
46:59
Speaker 1: If you can get him in ten situations at the
47:02
Speaker 1: end of games next year where clutch play, cool under fire,
47:06
Speaker 1: distribute the ball at the right place, he'll probably win
47:09
Speaker 1: seven or eight of those games. He's a clutched guy,
47:12
Speaker 1: but he's probably not gonna win a whole lot of
47:14
Speaker 1: games where if you're going to the game thinking we've
47:16
Speaker 1: got to win this thing and put it all on
47:18
Speaker 1: the backs of the quarterback, he's probably gonna be that.
47:20
Speaker 1: So allow me to passwords with Matt. It's Matt. If
47:24
Speaker 1: if mats email said, not going to carry us to
47:28
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, right, absolutely. Yeah. However, if you're going
47:32
Speaker 1: to pay him, probably gonna cause you at least twenty
47:35
Speaker 1: million dollars. I expect him to lead you there, right,
47:39
Speaker 1: or at least get you back towards that. That being
47:41
Speaker 1: in the in the hunt for it. The lead part
47:44
Speaker 1: is the key part here, because if he's going to
47:46
Speaker 1: upgrade you, he's going to make the throws, make the
47:48
Speaker 1: plays at the moments where Blake did not. Now, in
47:51
Speaker 1: order to do that, he's gotta have Leonard behind him,
47:53
Speaker 1: assuming that Leonard is healthy. And he's got to have
47:55
Speaker 1: a tight end to throw too, because when he was
47:57
Speaker 1: the quarterback in Philly, he threw the ball to the
48:00
Speaker 1: tight end on average through to them ten times a game,
48:03
Speaker 1: ding ding, ding ding ding. You gotta get that piece
48:04
Speaker 1: in place too. But if the Jaguars build a roster
48:07
Speaker 1: and then try to compliment it with the defense, which
48:10
Speaker 1: John Clayton mentioned has Pro Bowl caliber guys at every level,
48:13
Speaker 1: no reason why he couldn't lead you to the super Bowl.
48:16
Speaker 1: That's not wishful thinking. That's what you're paying for it.
48:18
Speaker 1: But he's not going to be Drew Brees who lifts
48:21
Speaker 1: a team up and carries them. Right, that's not out there. No,
48:25
Speaker 1: it's not. The last time it was out there. The
48:28
Speaker 1: last time it was out there was Breece. Well, Peyton
48:32
Speaker 1: was out there, but it was a different I mean
48:35
Speaker 1: so twice, so it ain't it ain't off No, it's not.
48:42
Speaker 1: And by the way, when Peyton came in, he came
48:44
Speaker 1: in with a dominant defense, right, I mean, that was
48:47
Speaker 1: the key to him. We're not gonna ask you to
48:48
Speaker 1: throw the ball for times a game like you did
48:50
Speaker 1: in your glory days in Indie. We get it. You're
48:52
Speaker 1: coming off of a neck injury. We got a defense
48:54
Speaker 1: and a running you'd just be you. If Nick is
48:58
Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last two years, with this
49:00
Speaker 1: defense and improved cast of characters and offense, that should
49:04
Speaker 1: be enough to be able to lead you towards the superport. Right.
49:06
Speaker 1: But if you're thinking he's gonna be Breezer Manning come
49:08
Speaker 1: in here. But if you're gonna pay him, darn Well
49:12
Speaker 1: was sure that they expect him right to lead them
49:15
Speaker 1: towards that. That's where you're hoping to get better. You're
49:18
Speaker 1: not gonna believe what the next O zone is about.
49:20
Speaker 1: Come on, and it's something to do with Nick Foles.
49:23
Speaker 1: I thought that was Kam. If the rumors aren't true
49:26
Speaker 1: and the Jacks do sign Nick Foles, would you still
49:28
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback early in this draft? I'm I would
49:33
Speaker 1: they want? If I could have to? Yeah, I mean
49:38
Speaker 1: I would. I would. If they signed Folds and they
49:45
Speaker 1: take Haskins. R. Lock, I'll noide my head and good
49:49
Speaker 1: Jacks that high Lock that you have that much confidence.
49:53
Speaker 1: I think it at number seven, think right now with
49:57
Speaker 1: the way his team needs a quarterback. When you're taking
49:59
Speaker 1: in the top ten, you hope signing Folds. Here's their dilemma,
50:04
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it, signing Folds. You hope that
50:09
Speaker 1: you're playing your way out of the top ten next year,
50:11
Speaker 1: right for sure, So you're not gonna be a position
50:14
Speaker 1: to grab a quarter year. There's a very high percentage
50:18
Speaker 1: chance that even if it's if it's just Lock that
50:22
Speaker 1: you like I did it just Lock, that just Lock
50:26
Speaker 1: will be better than the guy who's available at twenty
50:29
Speaker 1: five next year. And you hope you're ticking. So if
50:31
Speaker 1: you're you're trying to find that long term guy, better
50:34
Speaker 1: chance to get in it with Lock this year than
50:36
Speaker 1: whoever is available next year. So if your philosophy always
50:40
Speaker 1: hear a let's talk about well, I would take a
50:42
Speaker 1: quarterback every year. Take a quarterback everyone, Well, that's silly
50:44
Speaker 1: because you can't do that. But philosophically, the people who
50:48
Speaker 1: want to take a quarterback every year and take a
50:50
Speaker 1: chance on that guy developing locks a better choice than
50:52
Speaker 1: which you would find next year. If you think Folds
50:54
Speaker 1: is any good. If one of those guys is the man,
50:57
Speaker 1: don't pass on the man because you don't have it.
50:59
Speaker 1: Don't ever Paris and the Jaguars in their history have
51:02
Speaker 1: passed on the man. No. Four in OH five. Don't
51:06
Speaker 1: pass on the man. If if Locke is the man, great,
51:09
Speaker 1: even if he's not ready to be the man yet.
51:11
Speaker 1: If he's your guy, take him as the great. Joe
51:14
Speaker 1: Jackson said, Once I'm the man, write it down, don't
51:18
Speaker 1: pass on? Would that? Would that be shoeless? Joe Jackson?
51:21
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson of is she really going out with him? No?
51:24
Speaker 1: I know, I was just making a baseball reference for Joe.
51:26
Speaker 1: He's the man who gave you the OYO. I can't
51:29
Speaker 1: believe there's no schlint. Joe Jackson was so so so so.
51:33
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson was a prominent slash punk singer in the
51:39
Speaker 1: last half of the seventies who later made you know
51:43
Speaker 1: hits such as is she really going out with him?
51:45
Speaker 1: And stepping out, stepping up? I appreciate that last one
51:49
Speaker 1: bill from Jacksonville John statistics, and you tell us the
51:53
Speaker 1: Jaguars had a top ten offense last year before the
51:56
Speaker 1: injuries set him. So why is there a need to
51:58
Speaker 1: overhaul the offense? And I'm not talking just Blake Bortles,
52:01
Speaker 1: which appears this team is about to do. Thanks go jack.
52:06
Speaker 1: I think there's a perception that an overhaul is coming,
52:08
Speaker 1: and I guess it's how you define overhaul. Well, let's
52:11
Speaker 1: be honest, at the end of the year last year,
52:13
Speaker 1: it was really rugged to sit and watch that offense.
52:16
Speaker 1: The overhaul really seems to fit. But to me, and
52:22
Speaker 1: I'm the one answered the question, you're the man and
52:25
Speaker 1: the man who gave you the Hulu, it's uh, they're
52:29
Speaker 1: gonna change quarterback, they're gonna change tight end, they're gonna
52:33
Speaker 1: change offensive line, and they're gonna change one or two
52:36
Speaker 1: offensive line. That's that sounds like an overhaul to me.
52:39
Speaker 1: That's four or five spots but that's sort of I mean,
52:42
Speaker 1: that's not that uncommon. Yeah, when you're changing quarterback, they
52:49
Speaker 1: weren't changing quarterback with I feel like an overhaul. Well no,
52:52
Speaker 1: then you're just really affect you're changing a quarterback. Yeah,
52:54
Speaker 1: then you're just retooling, right, Um, and I see this
52:58
Speaker 1: as part of a retool. Okay, then I do an
53:01
Speaker 1: overhall because again I think with overhaul you would see
53:05
Speaker 1: two new receivers. Story. I don't think they're gonna overhaul receiver.
53:08
Speaker 1: I think their offensive line is going to have three,
53:11
Speaker 1: maybe four the guys who started last year. New coordinate,
53:13
Speaker 1: running back, quarterback, new starters, and offensive line. New philosophy
53:18
Speaker 1: with tight end. I don't know. I haven't say. You
53:20
Speaker 1: say read tool, I say overhaul. We'll see who's right.
53:23
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Speaker 1: got a lot of them last week and he was
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Thursdays. Pete Priscoe, if I were GM of
55:48
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I'd rather pay Teddy Bridgewater a smaller deal
55:52
Speaker 1: than give Nick Foles over twenty million a year, which
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Speaker 1: I don't think they will do. By the way, who's
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Speaker 1: in the market interesting con up two Pete. I mean,
56:02
Speaker 1: he makes a valid point that you are going with
56:05
Speaker 1: two backup quarterbacks and you're going to pay them like
56:08
Speaker 1: they are starters, and there's a risk with that. Pete
56:11
Speaker 1: is and always has been the quarterback guy. I mean,
56:14
Speaker 1: he was just always hammering the quarterback position. I could
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Speaker 1: take it. He probably likes haskins Um even though he's not. Yes,
56:22
Speaker 1: he was very down on Kyler Murray whereas the whole
56:25
Speaker 1: rest of the CBS studio set was all up on him,
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Speaker 1: and he was the one that was. Pete likes the
56:30
Speaker 1: pocket passer. Yeah, and point here is his main point here,
56:37
Speaker 1: I think is that he's not sure that the market
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Speaker 1: for foals, meaning that the contract for foals is going
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Speaker 1: to get to twenty millions. So you're talking about contracts
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Speaker 1: that's been the That's what his last point, which I
56:48
Speaker 1: don't think they will do. By the way, Um, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't think that there's any reason to pay foals twenty
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Speaker 1: million if there's no other teams in the hunt. And
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Speaker 1: that's what I think that tampering period day will play
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Speaker 1: that out. It feels like right now there's enough other
57:05
Speaker 1: sources saying don't count out the Giants, the Redskins, the Dolphins,
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Speaker 1: that it's almost trying to create a market for him
57:11
Speaker 1: that quietly there aren't people saying, hey, whoa hold on,
57:15
Speaker 1: we'll see. My impression from talking to people who are
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Speaker 1: more in the know than I am, is that there's
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Speaker 1: no way the Giants, there's no way the Dolphins and
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Speaker 1: the Skins can't pay him. That's sort of the buzz uh.
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Speaker 1: If that's the case, then where's the market to push
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Speaker 1: him up much past fifteen sixteen millions? Yeah, So if
57:36
Speaker 1: they can get him for that, it's an unbelievable bard Right,
57:39
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to our guy. Calais Campbell would
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Speaker 1: it beat top seats without him. These boys out here
57:43
Speaker 1: moving with Shawn Garritt and Michigan mont has Sweat our
57:46
Speaker 1: blazing fast, making themselves some money. He also tweeted out
57:50
Speaker 1: that when he shoot up to the combine, he was
57:52
Speaker 1: thirty pounds overweight and was humbled rather quickly when he
57:55
Speaker 1: fell in the draft. Um. I remember him as being
57:59
Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people fault was was
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Speaker 1: you know at his height and his ability that he
58:03
Speaker 1: showed at Miami that Calais was gonna be a first
58:05
Speaker 1: round pick. I didn't realize he was thirty pounds ever,
58:07
Speaker 1: way that explained why he was the second round pick. Yeah,
58:09
Speaker 1: the last mistake he may, yeah, exactly. Montes Sweat ran
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Speaker 1: four four one, fastest defensive lineman ever to run at
58:15
Speaker 1: the combine. I don't know what Rashan gary Um ran,
58:18
Speaker 1: but and again I didn't sit in front of the
58:20
Speaker 1: TV and watched the combine, but I remember when I
58:22
Speaker 1: saw a tweet about Sweat, I went four four one
58:26
Speaker 1: because he's six six something like that. That's moving. That
58:31
Speaker 1: is absolutely fun. There are a couple of linebackers that
58:33
Speaker 1: ran in the four fours too, right Bush, Devin White.
58:36
Speaker 1: It's an unbelievably good year for edge rushers. And I
58:39
Speaker 1: can think back a couple of years ago there were
58:40
Speaker 1: a couple of years where they were really none. Uh
58:44
Speaker 1: so this is the year to get it if you can.
58:48
Speaker 1: And the impressive thing about four four one, by the
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Speaker 1: way he did without breaking Ah here John yea, are
58:57
Speaker 1: we done built up to put one more on one? Alright?
59:03
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey our guy. Everyone is freaking out about this
59:05
Speaker 1: tweet him hyping up Dwayne Haskins to come to Jackson. Yes, sir,
59:09
Speaker 1: I think you're the one. It's something to remember that
59:12
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is not a scalp. He's not the general manager.
59:15
Speaker 1: Everyone is freaking out about this. This is just Jalen
59:19
Speaker 1: walking out of Florida States Practice facility after his rookie year.
59:22
Speaker 1: And he was talking about four at four Fowart fos
59:25
Speaker 1: what he said for before you talking about Dalvin Cook
59:27
Speaker 1: at number four. He was really pushing for Jalvin Cookie,
59:30
Speaker 1: his teammate, who obviously was a tremendous college football This
59:34
Speaker 1: is probably the fiftieth guy that Jalen has tweeted about wanting.
59:38
Speaker 1: Jalen loves everybody. He's honest, everybody. Everybody. There's a list
59:46
Speaker 1: of people I know he doesn't, right, Yeah, yeah, there's
59:50
Speaker 1: if there's five hundred players, Jalen loves hates hundred. Yeah,
59:55
Speaker 1: well he's willing to give you his opinions. No, it's great,
59:58
Speaker 1: that's fine. Well, that'll do it. We want the whole
1:00:00
Speaker 1: all hour today. You look at that. Didn't feel like
1:00:02
Speaker 1: we were breaking a sweat? Hey, John, do you like that?
1:00:05
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that now. All right, that'll do it for
1:00:08
Speaker 1: this week's edition, thanks to Joe and to Max. Next
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Speaker 1: week we'll do this all again until free agency starts
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Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Folks, heavy, pleasant, frigid. Yeah,