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Sister Wives S6 E8 - A Wife Decides · My Sister Wives Podcast

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  What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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  Goodbye. You.
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  Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
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  Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
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  Just look at the mountain. That's what you.
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  Saw that day just the knife in
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  and the sacrifices that I made
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  It's the episode you've all been
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  A wife decides season 6 Episode 8 A wife decides.
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  I wonder if this decision is about Meri's baby decision.
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  We're just going to experience
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  listeners. Six seasons and eight episodes
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  now. It has felt like years and years
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  and years. And the episode opens with an
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  overview of everyone being at the Brown Own family cul-de-sac
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  and what it all means now that
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  each other. They're a family again, honey.
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  A family. A real family.
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  Everyone's just living their best lives.
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  We see a little truly jumping on
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  hot pink Tutu. Get up.
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  It was quite striking. We see Mckelty walking by with a
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  mannequin wearing a newspaper skirt.
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  Along the lines of the cellophane dress?
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  Yes. From previous season or episodes
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  where it's all tufted. I don't know how to even
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  describe it. Yeah, it is it Tufted.
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  Layered tufted. Yeah, rolled up newspaper clumps
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  making a skirt. Yeah, she's Co opting from the
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  designer that she met. Well, she was inspired, honey.
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  She's inspired. Not stealing designs.
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  Whatsoever, she's a creative and
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  Sure, sure. The opening is basically just a
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  giant nothing burger. Just clips here and there of
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  everybody. And Kody has a voiceover where
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  he tells us that they're all very different and independent.
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  The wives, you know, everyone's living their lives, doing their
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  things. And how do we meld our family
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  back together now that we're at the Brown family cul-de-sac?
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  And, you know, that's what's been keeping me up at night
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  recently. I've been going, how are the
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  Browns going to do this? How are they going to get their
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  magic back? How are they going to meld back
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  into their routines? They couldn't meld when they
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  were that far apart. Now they're trying to meld that
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  they're this close together. Always an issue here with the
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  melding of the. Family, the melding.
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  So then to start the episode, we're basically going to get an
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  update from each of the wives kind of on what's happening,
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  what's the deal, what's the latest, what's the Goss, what's
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  the news? We start with Meri and she tells
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  us about how Leon is always hanging out with the other teens
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  or hanging out in Meri's loft upstairs.
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  Oh, the open loft. Meri just loves hearing all of
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  the noise again, of all of the
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  hear some annoying but cute laughter, giggling of the girls
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  hanging out. I think they're playing a video.
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  Game or something. There's a clip of Leon on the
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  couch during Meri's little opening segment, where Leon
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  volunteers that waiting an extra
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  really wasn't such a big Dell 00.
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  And I noticed that Leon is still
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  and slutty tank top. And I thought, how very dare
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  you. Are you really trying to
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  advertise that you still have your purity or not?
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  I think it's funny that Leon has
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  Oh well, moving in one week later than everyone else sucked,
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  but I guess it didn't turn out
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  And I'm just reminded that it was only a week.
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  Difference. They postponed Christmas till
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  January 2nd for little Leon. Leon made such a big drama deal
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  about not being in their house
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  else that it felt like a month's
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  Felt like a stunning reaction.
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  We're reminded again that it was
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  OK? One week.
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  And basically because of the holiday and your mother's own
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  wrongdoings. Wrongdoings, Yes.
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  Meri's failures as a mother, well, it sounds like Leon has
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  recovered, and we're all very thankful for that.
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  If anything we're thankful for
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  happy and feeling good. Thank you baby Jesus.
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  The most important thing, our next wife is Christine.
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  She talks about having all the
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  and all of that. She does enjoy it and also the
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  children have started what she
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  town in the backyard and they cut to the backyard for a visual
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  and my my my. It was quite the sight to see a.
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  Little harkening back to their
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  is bringing up something that the older kids used to do back
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  at the Lehigh home. They used to do Kids Town and
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  build stuff out in the little woods, I guess that was next to
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  it. And we see, yeah, makeshift
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  tents in the dusty ass backyard.
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  And we see that they have used pieces of lattice from a deck,
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  cardboards. And it's very Lord of the Flies
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  esque. That's a good reference, yes.
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  Christine says that the only downside of Kids Town is that it
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  It's a disaster. It's absolutely atrocious.
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  The backyard is a disaster. It totally is.
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  While they're showing the backyard as well.
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  I personally loved that they had music playing over that was like
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  some city slicker coming up and pulling out his gun because
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  of all the dust blowing everywhere and it literally
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  looks like a shantytown. What the fuck is going on here?
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  Also one of the little girls has
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  a piece of cardboard and is waving it at the ground and like
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  wafting dust up. Just a wafting dust into the air
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  for no reason. What's so Well, well, West in
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  that backyard? It is.
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  It really is. We go to the kids on the couch
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  and Isabel is talking about how some of the moms don't want to
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  have any more kids and she starts listing off all of the
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  moms that don't want any more kids and talking about how they
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  need more kids though. Yes, with all the moms, they
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  need more kids they need. More kids for their kids town.
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  It just goes to show the innocence of children.
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  They just think, oh, more playmates, so much fun.
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  More kids for kids town for kids
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  Oh boy. Janelle is next on our little
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  tour of how the wives are doing here at the Brown family
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  cul-de-sac. And we get this shot of Janelle
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  in the family room. No one is around.
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  And at first she's yelling for
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  And I was like, oh, we're going to get Maddie.
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  We haven't seen Maddie in a second.
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  And then it was Hunter Gabriel
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  She's just saying children's names, yelling them towards
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  upstairs. And then we have her talking to
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  the camera and she says, you know, this house is great, but
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  the way that the walls are set
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  or that maybe they choose not to
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  The kids just disappear in the
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  They choose not to hear me. Right.
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  It was fun to see because it reminded me of times where I
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  maybe have not heard my mother
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  And I was like, oh, I didn't hear, oh, isn't that convenient?
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  I still have selective hearing
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  I swear, I I don't know what it is, we all do it, but there's
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  something about your own mother's voice.
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  Oh. That you're especially attuned
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  to tuning out. Attuned to tuning out.
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  I think we all have that affliction.
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  When we finally make it to Robyn's house, she tells us that
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  they're going to be burning Kody's duffel bag.
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  So this would be the duffel bag that he would pack and bring
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  from house to house when they were in their rentals.
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  And of course, everyone is disturbed by this duffel bag,
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  including Robyn. She's so disturbed that she can
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  barely string a sentence together.
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  She's so disturbed. Well it's a weird because is she
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  opening up a box that has the fire pit in it?
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  Oh, I didn't know and. She goes, this is a fire pit and
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  literally says this is a fire pit and we're going to burn
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  Kody's duffel bag. Oh.
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  God, when she was describing the
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  bag was when I was most impressed by her because she
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  said something along the lines
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  memory. And when he would bring the bag
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  back and forth to the houses and
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  it's no longer needed. And I was a bit stimulated
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  myself when she said that it was
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  stimulation of a memory. I thought, wow, stimulation,
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  It's quite a word. I think she meant simulation,
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  but I don't even think that's correct.
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  So I don't know what she. Bizarre word in what?
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  She was really saying they just let her keep going.
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  Like keep talking, girl, we're
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  We're not going to edit that out.
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  We're keeping it in. We're going to highlight that.
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  No, and she's talking about yeah, how he would show up with
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  the bag so they would see this
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  mug on their doorsteps and then when he would leave there was
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  an empty spot where the bag should be.
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  So symbolic. Really, really it's.
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  Almost poetic, it's stimulating.
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  Their use of words, it just never ceases to amaze me.
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  And this is just another ridiculous thing to do.
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  Another weird ass way to get the family together.
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  We have to Berry hatchets in the yard.
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  Berry coolers, bury dead bodies, burn bags.
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  Yeah. What are they doing?
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  With this season, it feels to me like there are quite a few
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  things happening that are production fueled, where a story
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  they have to have something happen for the show.
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  So you brainstorm and you come up with ideas of what you can
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  do. Unfortunately, I don't think
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  they quite took the exercises far enough because not having
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  the, for example, family mission statement ready when they were
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  But they do have to have content for the episodes.
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  When we were looking at Season 6, we were going, wow, there's
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  dialed back the useless exercises and really stuck to
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  things that mattered or made sense.
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  But I think throughout this season we're going to notice
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  more and more things happening, activities where it just feels
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  family together in one spot, especially when you do have this
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  many kids that are probably part
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  And even when they, you know, get to the part here where
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  they're going to burn the bag,
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  You can tell not all 17 kids are
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  They're like single line around it and it's right, there's
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  plenty of spaces between them.
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  are we doing? Like, it's bizarre.
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  And I get it. I get that they're trying to
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  make moments for the show two in
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  capsule burying a cooler that they couldn't think of anything
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  better to bury than our red Igloo cooler.
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  And now they're going to burn a bag.
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  I get what they're doing but it's very forced and awkward.
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  The wives give us some more of
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  bag, including Christine who says that the bag was like Kody
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  was coming over for a sleepover when he would show up with that
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  bag just coming over for the night, popping in for a
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  sleepover. Your sexy husband here here for
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  a sleepover, love you Christine.
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  My favorite response to the bag was of course Janelle who says I
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  I was lol in 'cause I was like thank you.
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  Thank you, Janelle for being you and bringing us this special
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  moment. One normal person that's not
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  bothered by this bag that carries these horrible visual
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  stimulations. Not the stimulation.
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  Oh God, oh Lord my God. Kody says to Janelle it's a
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  symbol of her independence. Yes, because she got to get rid
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  of him. When he would pick up that bag,
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  she'd go. Thank God he's he's packing up
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  And we immediately cut to Kody putting the duffel bag in a fire
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  was unboxing if that's truly what happened.
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  I love how you got. That it was weird.
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  I did not even notice at all. I thought she was just, you
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  know, sorting through her horde. I had no idea what was going.
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  On sometimes it just feels like they give her very fed lines,
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  like she just doesn't know what to say or do.
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  And I've caught a couple of instances where they're trying
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  it. She had to have been unboxing it
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  because she said this is a fire pit.
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  And I do apologize because we keep saying bag in our Minnesota
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  accent. It's a bag.
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  And we make fun of Big Dull and I'm sure this episode we're
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  going to get made fun of her bag.
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  Yeah. Bag, you got to carry your big
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  dull and a big bag. Literally when I lived in
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  California, people would be like, say it again and I'm like
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  bag. And they're like, no, it's bag.
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  And I'm like bag and like bag.
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  And they're like bagel. I'm like bagel a bagel.
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  It's a bagel. I don't understand this.
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  I don't hear it being different but okay.
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  I know. I just know people are gonna
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  catch it from us, so I have to
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  there. We don't hear it, but we know
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  it's there. OK, so apologies for saying bag
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  on repeat for like 10 minutes.
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  before it so that it kind of eases the pain of the bag.
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  Gosh, you're so smart. It's a fire pit.
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  Fire pit. Well, Kody is putting this
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  duffel bag in a fire pit in the backyard.
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  We get some more precious pearls
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  Christine. Well, they're kind of going back
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  and forth between the couch and the setup of this thing.
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  So that's going to happen a lot in this episode where we're
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  going to reference voice overs
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  And just like usual, there's a
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  Christine is giving Kody a bit
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  We'll get to get Josh in him, a little bit about how there are
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  other ways to destroy this duffel bag other than burning
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  it. And she has a little humorous
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  list of things to do. I don't really recall any of
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  them other than burning the bag and then collecting the ashes.
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  My favorite one is we could caught it up.
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  Oh yeah, caught it up. We could caught it up into a.
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  Million little pieces, but if they decide to burn it, they
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  could collect the ashes, which
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  I guess for something and somewhere.
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  But ultimately, burning the duffel bag is really a
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  celebration, a victory of being in the homes, according to
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  Kody. Right before they start this
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  massive fire that could cause catastrophic events to happen.
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  goes by. Yeah, it was a little ironic,
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  yeah. Especially uncontrollably.
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  Right. Burning a random odd object
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  outside of your brand new homes. Great, great idea there.
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  Was some reference to the, like, black smoke?
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  Like, is that a problem? And it's like, yeah, you should
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  breathe it in. You should totally breathe it
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  in. Yeah, Kody's like, I don't know
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  about this black smoke. Like, well, you are burning
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  plastic in front of your brand new homes in a fire pit that
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  Robyn assembled, which seems awfully dangerous this.
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  Is it this? Is it?
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  The fire hazard isn't even the bag on fire, it's the fire pit
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  stimulation of it all. After TLC pays some bills with a
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  Turns out I was wrong. Kody is there on his lonesome.
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  Kody's hanging out at Robyn's though, yeah.
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  Wow. I wonder if there's a ticker
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  board for that because yeah, we're going to see that again,
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  It would be perfect timing to start it because we are at the
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  Yeah.
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  Episode that we're doing outside
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  moved in. I think we should start a
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  ticker. Oh honey, I don't have the
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  strength, nor the stamina nor the concern or the care.
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  But if you want to, you know, maybe it will fulfill some of
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  your ADHD needs. It would the visual stimulation
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  of it alone. Every time that they get there I
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  will just get titillated, stimulated, add another check.
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  Put it in the bag. Put it in the bag.
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  Yeah, Kody's alone at Robyn's house, and he lets us know that
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  he's meeting with the manufacturers of my sister
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  wife's closet jewelry with a goal of designing jewelry pieces
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  for each one of his wives for Mother's Day.
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  If you were to hear that story, you might think, wow, what a
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  loving husband and what a great idea.
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  But we know the truth, he only
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  good idea. And it will be proven that it is
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  not a good idea. But we won't learn that in this
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  episode, children. All the more reason to subscribe
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  and to follow so that you can hear the end of this riveting
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  tale of Kody's jewelry. I don't even know.
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  Failure, stimulation, failure.
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  We meet Mike and Gina again, the
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  ex-husband and wife. I thought that's what the thing
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  was. And neither one of their last
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  names are actually the name Marino or whatever.
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  Yeah, it's Gina and Michael Wilson, which I was like Wilson.
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  I thought it was Moreno Enterprises.
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  You're right. So maybe it's named after their
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  first born Moreno. Baby name Moreno.
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  Oh, moreno's so cute. He has them there because he
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  wants their input. Their input is going to allow
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  him to get his foot out of his
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  Oh yeah. So his shitty ideas coupled with
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  their not so shitty ideas will
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  an idiot. Right.
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  And these Mother's Day gifts that are truly from the heart.
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  And who is he going to start with?
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  But of course, his number one,
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  Robyn. He claims he was inspired by
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  Robyn when he starts with her.
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  we're going to hear about the other wives inspiring him.
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  I doubt it. But you never know, he could
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  prove us wrong. He does say that she is a bird
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  and ILOLOL, because I was thinking, I do feel as if you
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  have said that she looks like a bird.
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  We have referenced that she has bird like features, that
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  sometimes she looks like a bird with a wig on and he's saying
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  she is a bird. But also her name is Robyn.
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  Oh, and it is, oh, the blue eggs, I didn't even connect the
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  dots. So it's, oh, I'm such an idiot.
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  I'm as dumb as Kody. But Kody is convinced that Robyn
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  was like a phoenix rising out of
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  You know, a successful, triumphant story.
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  So obviously that's why she's like a bird.
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  Duh. Not that her name's Robyn or
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  that she lays blue eggs. Or that she looks like she has a
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  beak from the side and that. She she walks with her head,
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  going in and out and in and out.
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  Oh, many a bird comparison for our Robyn Brown.
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  And who's next on the list, darling?
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  #2 be but Meri. Oh, Meri.
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  And her quality that he is drawing inspiration from is her
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  extreme loyalty and she just needs some sort of symbol that
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  dog. Maybe another animal like a dog.
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  to be compared to a dog, Kody.
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  His stupid ideas are being corrected by Moreno Enterprise
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  leadership. His paw just got pulled out of
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  his mouth by Gina, thank goodness.
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  Put that dog in the corner, Kody.
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  Bury that dog in the backyard.
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  unfortunately in this family, and they decide that a better
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  symbol than a loyal Labrador would be a crown with a heart on
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  it. And not just any crown with a
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  heart attached to the bottom. Yeah, I think the crown is
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  sitting on the heart and the way
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  like the crown had a heart on, which I thought was great.
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  And I hope I get to keep it in
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  Oh, the stimulation, the visual stimulation I'm trying to lay
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  out for you all here. Moreno Enterprises gave the
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  thumb up with that crown of the heart on, so that's good.
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  That's great. We are going to add a very
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  special word and you know, Kody can't think of any better word
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  than loyalty, except let's just put a twist on it and go with
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  the Latin word for loyal, which is fidelis.
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  Oh I love how he knew that already.
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  He's just so scholarly in his language.
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  Mr. Mike is the one that suggests adding a word to the
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  heart with the crown on its ball
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  And you know, Kody just gives him all of the praise, but then
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  all of a sudden just pulls the
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  So not staged at all, not already come up with at all.
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  Listen, this joint venture is working smoothly and beautifully
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  already and we're only two wives
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  So it can only get better from
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  It's interesting because he kind
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  second wives where it becomes elements like earth, wind and
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  fire. And I thought, why wasn't Meri
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  fire? Because Meri would be fire and
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  then it would be like flames and
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  That's Meri. But unfortunately I wasn't part
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  of the meeting so I didn't get
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  We went from animals to elements.
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  Yep, very quickly. No direction changed for Moreno
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  Enterprises on that. One.
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  No explanation whatsoever. Yeah.
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  But Janelle is Earth, of course,
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  symbolize Earth than a tree? And you know, our friend Gina
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  was talking about what a tree means and how it stays where it
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  is and that it's, I don't know.
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  I feel like what she was describing was actually the
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  loyalty bit for Meri. Like always there, I thought,
• 24:56
  why aren't you saying like it has roots and then there's
• 25:00
  branches and whatever. But you know, Gina's the
• 25:02
  creative genius here, not me. She said grounded with
• 25:07
  stability. See, stability's not the same as
• 25:11
  I think that they are kind of just spitballing at this point
• 25:22
  Well, Kody is so discerning that
• 25:25
  he's going to tear their thoughts apart.
• 25:27
  Just kidding, that's not the case.
• 25:29
  And last but not least, we get
• 25:33
  Oh, she's easy, but not so easy.
• 25:36
  Her priMeri element is wind. Very ethereal.
• 25:40
  The winds of love. Yeah, he says.
• 25:43
  It's going to be very hard to put wind and air into a design,
• 25:49
  and how do you do that? And he brings up that when he
• 25:54
  thinks of wind and air, he thinks like a fairy, and he
• 25:59
  thinks Christina's very much like a fairy.
• 26:01
  And every once in a while, they can bite too, because they're
• 26:06
  mischievous. They absolutely are.
• 26:08
  They're usually ethereal, but then that little mischievous
• 26:11
  glance comes around the corner and bites ya.
• 26:15
  Fairies like to bite, apparently.
• 26:16
  I've never heard this before. Maybe it's part of some sort of
• 26:20
  classic tale from days gone past.
• 26:21
  I have heard it in Irish folklore that fairies do bite.
• 26:33
  I I don't want to say yes here. Then you'll be skirting eyes pop
• 26:45
  obsessed with fairies. Not going to lie, like many
• 26:49
  little girls are, I was obsessed with fairies.
• 26:53
  And they like to bite. They do.
• 26:56
  It's a very weird fact about them.
• 26:59
  I am curious who else out there knew this?
• 27:04
  Well, I think it's funny that you're calling it a fact, as if
• 27:07
  fairies are real and they really bite like it is a fact.
• 27:17
  I know, so dismissive of me. It was very dismissive.
• 27:21
  Thanks for apologizing. You're welcome.
• 27:24
  There is Irish folklore of changelings like babies being
• 27:32
  traded out from their bassinets, and there's a lot of weird fairy
• 27:46
  might tie into Mormonism if there are any fairy tales from
• 27:54
  faith. I got it.
• 27:59
  Nauvoo is where the fairies come from, honey.
• 28:03
  They all birthed out of the Canyon in Nauvoo.
• 28:05
  Like a giant vagina, they come flying out.
• 28:08
  And perhaps Christine herself was a changeling.
• 28:12
  Never know. We will never know.
• 28:14
  I have seen her bite a few people.
• 28:16
  This scene is wrapped up by Gina.
• 28:19
  Thank God she tells us that. It's obvious that Kody loves
• 28:23
  them all, but each one is a bit different.
• 28:26
  And you know, there's an interesting thing here with
• 28:29
  monogamy versus polygamy, because with monogamist, you're
• 28:31
  trying to find all of these qualities that he loves in his
• 28:41
  She's trying to articulate how she feels about monogamy.
• 28:45
  It's as if the producers asked her a question and she's
• 28:51
  struggling here. But Mike, her kind husband,
• 28:56
  pipes up and has a revelation that perhaps it's like all of
• 29:01
  the wives were meant to be together, and they become 10.
• 29:06
  Hello. Yeah, you know, as Meri would
• 29:14
  say, we don't go weird. Some poor producer asked these
• 29:28
  were going to wrap that up and then to put the cherry on top of
• 29:34
  designing these wonderful gifts for his wives is that one
• 29:37
  of the wives will be jealous of another piece of jewelry that
• 29:43
  a different wife receives. What an understandable fear.
• 29:46
  I totally get it. It would.
• 29:48
  It frightens me. Now I'm frightened.
• 29:50
  The potential of jealousy. My God, Oh Lord, no.
• 29:54
  Not in this family. Never.
• 29:57
  Kody introduces us to the next scene by telling us that they've
• 30:06
  collection in a store via a wholesale line.
• 30:09
  And this is going to make me ask some questions in the future,
• 30:14
  but we'll get to that. And Meri tells us that some
• 30:17
  people were asking for less expensive pieces, so they're
• 30:21
  going to do this wholesale line at a lower price point.
• 30:26
  I think it makes sense. I'm not so sure how they're
• 30:29
  going to go about this. Gina and Mike are really the
• 30:34
  driving force behind this meeting.
• 30:38
  They are helping facilitate this meeting between the family and a
• 30:53
  I've never heard of it. Nope, it's a happening place.
• 30:56
  They're going to carry huge gaudy silver jewelry in their
• 31:00
  gift shop. So sure, I guess it goes
• 31:02
  together. We get couch moments here and we
• 31:08
  get a little bit of back story
• 31:12
  are fitting into the jewelry line again and Christine says
• 31:16
  that she is focusing on the fun factor which she sees happening
• 31:21
  in this new line. I don't understand the point of
• 31:26
  that, how she's seeing a fun factor in this new cheaper line
• 31:30
  of the. I know that is not explained at
• 31:32
  all, as if it's going to be neon
• 31:35
  and shrink. Like, I don't know what's fun
• 31:37
  about it. It's just cheaper.
• 31:38
  She brings up the fact that she was going to get into real
• 31:42
  estate and realizes that no, there's just not enough time in
• 31:46
  my busy schedule with having a
• 31:50
  other small children. Nope, Nope, Nope.
• 31:53
  Can't do the Realty thing, no time for that.
• 31:56
  But this fun factor of a lesser price point, wholesale jewelry,
• 32:01
  sure, I can get on board with that.
• 32:04
  And we get from Janelle that, Nope, still focused on real
• 32:09
  estate. Yeah, big, huge eye roll from
• 32:14
  Robyn that they focus in on. We'll see.
• 32:17
  Janelle's just trying to forge
• 32:20
  And Robyn, she doesn't like that, because Robyn wants to
• 32:24
  forge her own path, but she needs everyone else to forge it
• 32:26
  for her. She can't really do it.
• 32:29
  I don't get what they were trying to go for here by
• 32:32
  pointing out just specifically
• 32:36
  fitting into the jewelry line.
• 32:39
  weird and didn't fit in. Yeah, just another like random
• 32:44
  update I guess. Yeah, I think they're just
• 32:47
  trying to call out the differences in the wives and
• 32:49
  where they're at with it. But the Robyn eye roll, she
• 32:52
  looks up to the left and keeps
• 32:57
  they focus in on it. To me, it's very pointed that
• 33:04
  production left that in and zoomed in on her.
• 33:07
  When Janelle talks about choosing real estate over the
• 33:10
  jewelry line. Yeah, it's more of the same.
• 33:13
  So I guess she's just still frustrated and annoyed, yeah,
• 33:17
  that someone else isn't taking
• 33:20
  come true. I don't really.
• 33:21
  Yeah, but Mike and Gina are trying to take care of it.
• 33:25
  They're trying to help Rob. That's their number one goal, is
• 33:28
  to make Robyn's dreams come true.
• 33:30
  And number two or three or four somewhere down the line is
• 33:32
  making money. But really it's about Robyn's
• 33:35
  dreams. That's why we're all here, of
• 33:36
  course. To.
• 33:37
  Fulfill Robyn's dreams for her.
• 33:39
  Making jewelry that weighs your neck down and gives you a
• 33:43
  scoliosis or something. I just don't even know what's
• 33:47
  the goal here. Robyn, please tell me other than
• 33:55
  meet Mike and Gina at the casino gift store.
• 33:59
  As we're walking into the casino, we see a large fish tank
• 34:10
  So fun the. Family is baffled.
• 34:13
  Christine got a little wet. She sure did.
• 34:16
  Yeah, she loves, she loves a fish tank and she loves a Murr
• 34:22
  She loves fairies and murr people were finding out and make
• 34:28
  Make believe Christine. She's got the heart of a 12 year
• 34:31
  old and the mind of an 8 year old.
• 34:33
  You often point out that Christine does her little hop,
• 34:36
  skip, jump, clap, clap, clap. Oh yeah, she did it here.
• 34:39
  Oh yeah. Hercules.
• 34:41
  Hercules. She did the Hercules clap.
• 34:44
  Yeah. And Christine says that it's
• 34:46
  hypocritical, but mermaids can
• 34:51
  cocktail waitresses they should not be.
• 34:54
  No, you know the modesty expectations regarding mermaids
• 34:58
  are different than cocktail waitresses for sure.
• 35:01
  Because, you know, mermaids are just swimming around where
• 35:03
  cocktail waitresses are. Cocktail waitressing.
• 35:07
  Very true. How?
• 35:07
  Dare those cocktail waitresses
• 35:10
  Oh no. Wow, wow.
• 35:15
  Robyn questions. Is this morally OK to have their
• 35:19
  products in a casino? She's really struggling with
• 35:21
  that. Because, you know, when I think
• 35:23
  of a moral pillar, I think of Robyn.
• 35:25
  When I think of doing right, I
• 35:30
  questioning this decision. Mormonism is against gambling.
• 35:35
  But luckily Christine researched
• 35:38
  ensure it was sitting ridden, that there would be no sitting
• 35:42
  in that casino. And while yes, she's being very
• 35:46
  puritanical, she found out that the casino does have family
• 35:49
  activities, so it's fine. She would even go there herself.
• 35:54
  Yeah, she makes a point to try
• 35:59
  is a family casino. Listen, there's mermaids.
• 36:04
  She's giddy as a schoolgirl. She doesn't even notice the
• 36:07
  hookers and blow in the corner.
• 36:09
  She didn't even notice. Lots of family attractions so
• 36:12
  it's OK the. Family Casino.
• 36:15
  What was it called again? Silverton.
• 36:17
  Silverton casino where you bring your family to.
• 36:21
  See the mermaids. Yes, for all the family
• 36:24
  activities at the gambling hall that the Mormons are OK with.
• 36:28
  Well, they're not Mormon, they're AUB members.
• 36:30
  Sorry, Mormons, we, we don't want to, you know, call
• 36:33
  everything Mormon. It's very obvious that they're
• 36:39
  times. They even when they first moved
• 36:41
  there, they're like, do the kids even know what gambling is?
• 36:46
  in a casino? No.
• 36:47
  And then, you know, a couple of the kids back then were talking
• 36:51
  about it or mentioning that Janelle knew what it was.
• 36:54
  And Kody put the kibosh on that,
• 36:58
  And now all of a sudden we're going to sell jewelry out of a
• 37:02
  casino, and Robyn, of all people, has to bring up the
• 37:07
  moral complications of this, and
• 37:12
  it. Oh, it's a family affair.
• 37:13
  We could bring our family here. It'd be fine, fine, fine.
• 37:17
  But then we get to the name of the gift shop.
• 37:20
  We're going to meet in front of the gift shop now and find out
• 37:27
  Gold Capital letters on the signage.
• 37:31
  GUILT, Guilt. The wives literally go oh wow.
• 37:49
  But when you just, you know, turn your head ever so slightly
• 37:52
  and focus your eyes, you can see through the window that it's
• 38:00
  Well, stuff some people buy. There's a lot of crap, just
• 38:02
  stuff. Bright colors would buy.
• 38:05
  Bright colors, shiny objects, things that say buy me, buy me
• 38:10
  That's what it is. It's that kind of store.
• 38:12
  It doesn't look. It's not a sex shop.
• 38:15
  There's no bottles of booze. There's no, I didn't really see
• 38:19
  any gambling stuff around. So it's.
• 38:21
  Fuzzy handcuffs, that type of thing.
• 38:23
  No hooker boots, it's literally just a gift shop, so you know.
• 38:33
  Oh, but first, Robyn needs to make sure that it's appropriate
• 38:37
  by going in there and browsing around herself, and she
• 38:41
  realizes, oh, it's just a play on words.
• 38:44
  It's just shopping for adults and candy for kids.
• 38:48
  And actually a lot of this stuff I would have in my own home.
• 38:52
  I said shocker, shocker, the hoarder, the shopaholic would
• 38:55
  buy all the shit in this store. I was shocked.
• 38:58
  I was so surprised. I noticed here that Robyn is
• 39:03
  wearing jeans and a light yellow blazer that is buttoned under
• 39:08
  her boobies and she is looking very business casual.
• 39:13
  And is she trying to look the part of a jewelry saleswoman?
• 39:21
  I'm not sure. I don't know what that looks
• 39:24
  like. I don't know either, but she's
• 39:28
  She really was trying that button that was buttoned way too
• 39:34
  It was cute. Was it cute?
• 39:37
  She was looking, she was looking cute.
• 39:39
  OK, she was looking something. We went from Aeropostale to
• 39:44
  Grandma bargain bin and now we're at business Blazer casual.
• 39:51
  know, really fitting in wherever
• 39:53
  Very good at putting a mask on
• 39:58
  At the family friendly casino.
• 40:03
  Thank you to the manager for allowing them to come in and
• 40:06
  show their wonderful product off.
• 40:08
  She tells the camera that middle
• 40:11
  seems to like the my sister wife's closet concept, but once
• 40:15
  it gets leveled up to leadership
• 40:18
  to have an issue with customer
• 40:22
  family and what that means. It's like, Oh my God, I guess
• 40:27
  that would be weird to try to be
• 40:30
  Is it really that it's polygamous?
• 40:33
  Sure, maybe, but also it's the
• 40:37
  matter? It's jewelry.
• 40:39
  What does it have to do with being a sister wife?
• 40:42
  That's what I still feel is the fundamental thing is if there's
• 40:45
  a disconnect, sure, maybe some, you know, leader in some
• 40:49
  building that has nothing to do with the retail floor doesn't
• 40:51
  understand that no one would care when they're in the store
• 40:53
  about the polygamy aspect. But a very serious question
• 40:57
  would be why would we ever sell this product?
• 40:59
  Why does anyone actually want it?
• 41:01
  No one would care, right? Which is, you know, I guess what
• 41:04
  everybody knows except for the
• 41:07
  Gina gets herself all worked up and she says when driving in
• 41:13
  Vegas, if you were to look over in the car next to you at a
• 41:16
  stoplight, you could see a woman
• 41:22
  boobies out. Or you could look at these women
• 41:25
  with their high necks and multiple other wives.
• 41:28
  And why does it matter? Like comparing polygamous and
• 41:33
  monogamous and we're in Sin City.
• 41:36
  Why does it matter? And they're doing their best to
• 41:40
  get her worked up, to get some
• 41:43
  And they did trick me. They did trick me.
• 41:45
  And then, you know, seeing it next where it seems like she's
• 41:49
  going against the family. But no, no, she was just getting
• 41:54
  worked up by some producer here.
• 41:56
  Yeah, she says. When you look out the window of
• 41:59
  the car you could see anybody part.
• 42:01
  In Las. Vegas.
• 42:04
  And I'm like wow, anybody part OK.
• 42:07
  So why do we care about polygamous jewelry?
• 42:09
  The moral outrage is what I say the moral outrage.
• 42:14
  Kody says that they will only be selling this jewelry in
• 42:20
  Silverton and he thinks that it will become a destination once
• 42:27
  Oh yes, people will be flocking to that gift shop in a family
• 42:31
  friendly casino to buy polygamous themed jewelry.
• 42:34
  They're going to be shopping at Gilt for that polygamous
• 42:39
  jewelry. Dropping the dollars.
• 42:41
  Like in there? This is where earlier what I was
• 42:49
  I get that you're making a wholesale line.
• 42:51
  Well, I might be wrong, but I thought wholesale meant that you
• 42:57
  It's not as if you just put it in one store.
• 43:00
  You are correct. And so that was weird to me.
• 43:03
  And also obviously the whole thing of it being a destination
• 43:06
  for anyone to go to. It's, it feels to me as if maybe
• 43:14
  But who's going? Oh, my husband wants to go to
• 43:17
  Vegas next year. And I'm so excited because when
• 43:19
  we, when we go, I'm going to go to this family friendly casino
• 43:24
  because it's cheaper there than on the website.
• 43:27
  What it just I I. We're going to drive all the way
• 43:35
  before, to go and see the mermaids.
• 43:37
  But no, no, no, no, not just the mermaids.
• 43:40
  We need to get our sister wives jewelry.
• 43:43
  Well. That's why I always say I go to
• 43:45
  Silverton. To get some silver.
• 43:48
  To wrap up this lovely scene, Kody decides that he's going to
• 43:52
  look around guilt because, you know, maybe he's got a little
• 43:55
  inner guilt. Maybe he wants to do a little
• 43:57
  gender bending and then all of a sudden he sees an apron, A
• 44:01
  frilly, frilly apron, and thinks I'm going to put it on and make
• 44:06
  fun of myself. And I didn't care at all.
• 44:09
  But it happened. And you know, the whole play on,
• 44:19
  No, he says that the women love to downplay his masculinity any
• 44:23
  chance they get. Womp womp again, masculinity
• 44:28
  talk and this guy and. This guy.
• 44:34
  This guy just showboating again, trying to be all cute.
• 44:37
  See, you know, maybe they should make aprons.
• 44:39
  Maybe they actually would sell aprons.
• 44:41
  This is it. The apron is a far better idea
• 44:45
  At this point, yeah, it it sure is.
• 44:49
  Yeah, especially after Kody models it on the show, right?
• 44:53
  Add some ruffles. Add some thrills, some frills,
• 45:04
  Christine, Hercules, Hercules and Robyn.
• 45:08
  You know, because we always rely on Robyn.
• 45:10
  Not only is she the moral compass, but she's the
• 45:13
  intellectual lighthouse for all of us.
• 45:15
  And she tells the camera this is another opportunity for us.
• 45:19
  And if it doesn't work out, we'll need to go back to the
• 45:23
  drawing board for my sister wife's closet.
• 45:25
  And yeah, you will, because it didn't work selling it on the
• 45:31
  website. It doesn't work selling at
• 45:32
  Expos. And now you're going to
• 45:35
  wholesale distribute exclusively to 1 store inside a casino that
• 45:38
  no one's ever heard of. I think you're going to be going
• 45:43
  That's my guess. I don't know, I could be wrong.
• 45:46
  To me, at Reeks of we went into
• 45:48
  this wholesale idea thinking we would sell to local casinos and
• 45:53
  we've been striking out, so now we're going to say it's
• 45:56
  exclusively at Silverton. At guilt on Silverton, I feel
• 46:03
  like there's probably some sort of way that you would say it to
• 46:05
  make it sound even more exclusive.
• 46:08
  Oh, you know, the guilt inside
• 46:10
  That's where our jewellery is sold.
• 46:11
  This is ridiculous. Oh yeah.
• 46:15
  Our Part 2 of the episode starts
• 46:18
  favorite gym rat to the gym for their weekly weigh in and
• 46:23
  meeting with Sean. And of course I'm speaking about
• 46:26
  Janelle. Janelle Brown in her leg warmers
• 46:30
  in that high cut onesie or leotard with the sweat band and
• 46:37
  the hair pulled back. She's going to the gym.
• 46:40
  She did have a sweat band under her bangs in segments of this.
• 46:45
  Oh good. Which was pretty funny.
• 46:48
  Yeah, it kind of caught me off
• 46:51
  She's she's working out, she's
• 46:53
  lose that weight. But as she's approaching the
• 46:55
  gym, there's a voiceover from her talking about how she's
• 46:58
  really plateaued on her weight
• 47:00
  And we've been on this journey
• 47:02
  She has lost weight, plateaued.
• 47:05
  Of course, Shawn, her trainer, has really tried to emphasize,
• 47:15
  He's really trying to emphasize that.
• 47:17
  And she's still hung up on that damn scale.
• 47:20
  Yeah, she reiterates that she has no scale at home.
• 47:24
  She was tempted to buy one after their smashing of her scale, but
• 47:32
  Yeah. She fought that temptation her.
• 47:34
  Cheapness went out.
• 47:35
  That's very Robyn coated, right?
• 47:37
  Right. Like Robyn would be like.
• 47:38
  I got to go buy another scale. And Janelle controlled herself.
• 47:42
  She mentions that her first diet
• 47:45
  that she ever started was at age
• 47:49
  break the mindset of not looking at the number on the scale
• 47:52
  because it started for her at age 8.
• 47:56
  That struck me as so dramatic and early, and maybe it's not,
• 48:04
  But my gosh, to be thinking about dieting at 8 years old,
• 48:07
  maybe that's normal. I don't know.
• 48:10
  It's definitely not OK, which makes me wonder what else is at
• 48:15
  play here. There is a factor of control
• 48:18
  that comes in with dieting for a lot of people, having control
• 48:22
  over your life, control over your food, your diet for the
• 48:26
  moment, that's the case with a lot of eating disorders, is just
• 48:34
  that you can control. So I wonder about the psychology
• 48:45
  I just feel like there's so much more to her story, and I want to
• 48:57
  She gives us these tiny tidbits like dieting at age 8.
• 49:01
  Right, Which to me seems extreme.
• 49:03
  And you agree that it seems extreme.
• 49:04
  It is. Extreme.
• 49:05
  Right. So it's just mentioned and then
• 49:08
  kind of glossed over, although it is partnered with, like you
• 49:16
  obsessed with the scale and she even refers to it as
• 49:19
  devastating. When the number doesn't change,
• 49:21
  it's. Devastating for her.
• 49:23
  I mean, oh, I feel so bad for her.
• 49:28
  And I wonder if at 8 years old, you know, if you're a chubby
• 49:33
  little person and you're missing an element of control.
• 49:36
  I mean, yeah, I know. I don't.
• 49:38
  Know are you getting picked on? Is it familial people picking on
• 49:51
  feel. But no, you know what?
• 49:53
  That's wrong because a lot of moms put pressure, unnecessary
• 50:00
  themselves. So I don't know.
• 50:01
  I don't know what it is. It's odd to me.
• 50:04
  And I want to hear more about her story.
• 50:07
  I don't want it to be one of those stories, though.
• 50:12
  Where where she's glossing over things.
• 50:15
  I want her to be ready to tell her story and I want her to do
• 50:21
  if Janelle decides to write a book, I hope she gives us all of
• 50:29
  gritty into her childhood and why she's struggled with her
• 50:32
  weight because she's brought it up so much in the show.
• 50:35
  I think it would be beneficial to people who have followed the
• 50:38
  show for a long time. And I think this is something
• 50:40
  that a lot of women deal with and.
• 50:42
  I agree with you that Janelle's story would be very interesting
• 50:46
  to hear if it was told thoroughly and truthfully.
• 50:50
  You know, obviously you don't want to put too much pressure on
• 50:54
  Sherry's story but a gloss over story?
• 50:56
  Fuck that. I hear you.
• 50:58
  You don't want to hear a Meri's version of a story, you would
• 51:00
  want to hear the truth. Yeah, I think I think back to
• 51:05
  the Britney Spears memoir that was released and the fact that
• 51:19
  that memoir wasn't great and it was a waste of her time.
• 51:23
  And she should have waited 10 plus more years until she's
• 51:26
  settled and in the right headspace to write it.
• 51:29
  And I want that so badly from Janelle.
• 51:32
  So if by chance you hear this, Janelle, please, Please wait
• 51:37
  until you are fully ready to Share your story, to Share your
• 51:41
  story. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:43
  We hear from Sean that he thinks she is neurotic about the scale
• 51:52
  and she has lost inches and Sean doesn't like how she is
• 51:58
  still so fixated on this scale.
• 52:00
  He is frustrated with her. I feel like he mentioned that
• 52:04
  she recently has lost 10 inches overall, but in the last month
• 52:08
  alone, 2 1/2 inches. So that's obviously significant
• 52:13
  regardless of what the scale is saying.
• 52:15
  I mean, she's losing literal physical body mass, so whatever
• 52:19
  the scale saying, you know. She tells him that she was
• 52:22
  thinking of buying another scale
• 52:25
  didn't. Obviously she is being neurotic
• 52:27
  about the scale. I'm glad he's busting her balls
• 52:30
  about it because don't get another fucking scale, girl.
• 52:32
  As we find out, she's doing weekly check INS anyway.
• 52:35
  Weigh ends at the gym with him.
• 52:36
  That's enough. And if she's not able to manage
• 52:39
  that, that's something to evaluate and to work on.
• 52:41
  You can weigh yourself once a week and have that be, you know.
• 52:47
  She Tees it up that she gets very antsy when they're going to
• 52:51
  do these weigh insurance once a month, but then we find out
• 52:53
  that they're doing them weekly, so there's no need to get so
• 52:57
  worked up. And if she really truly feels
• 52:59
  the need to weigh herself every morning and is getting that
• 53:02
  worked up about a weekly weigh
• 53:06
  should be seeing a therapist at this point.
• 53:08
  And Sean refers her to a nutritionist and wants her to
• 53:13
  meet with a nutritionist. I hope that there has been some
• 53:17
  discussion about seeing a therapist as well and that we
• 53:21
  just haven't seen that because
• 53:26
  Therapy is not as mainstream probably in 2013 as it is today.
• 53:31
  So hopefully that was brought up
• 53:34
  I mean, I agree that it sounds
• 53:37
  speak to somebody about more than just a trainer.
• 53:40
  Not to put any trainers down, but I think it needs some more
• 53:44
  evaluation. So Sean talks about how he
• 53:46
  really does want her to meet with a nutritionist and to
• 53:50
  involve the family more so to start getting behind the meal
• 53:53
  planning and involving the family in the meal time and
• 53:58
  nutrition aspect. He set up a meeting with a
• 54:01
  nutritionist named Lisa to review her food choices and
• 54:05
  maybe put that plan into action,
• 54:08
  making some better choices. Yeah, he says that since they've
• 54:11
  been working together, Janelle
• 54:14
  that she is curious about the fact that potentially there
• 54:17
  could be food allergies or other
• 54:21
  So we are going to meet Lisa. We find out Lisa has a trade
• 54:28
  name. Oh yeah.
• 54:30
  Kettlebell bombshell. Kettlebell bombshell.
• 54:34
  Janelle has very good descriptive words for Lisa.
• 54:37
  Oh. She is tall and statuesque and
• 54:41
  very intimidating. And I thought, I'm not so sure
• 54:46
  about the bombshell part, but I am a critical gay man and an
• 54:49
  asshole, so take it as it is. Is she tall?
• 54:52
  Sure. Is she statuesque?
• 54:54
  Yes, like a Greek God. She definitely is a kettlebell.
• 55:02
  My first thought upon seeing Lisa is that I miss old beauty
• 55:06
  standards. I miss normal people being
• 55:09
  beautiful. Yeah, I see her and I think of
• 55:13
  what Janelle was thinking at the
• 55:17
  And I'm like God, what happened to individuality and
• 55:20
  individuals being pretty for being themselves and having
• 55:24
  unique features? Oh God, we're so good cop, bad
• 55:28
  cop right now. I'm like, she's not a bombshell.
• 55:30
  And you're like, she looks like a person.
• 55:33
  She has features. I love that Janelle is saying
• 55:37
  she is a bombshell and that she was intimidated by her and
• 55:39
  she's so beautiful. And then we see her and I'm
• 55:41
  like, yay, a normal woman. That's pretty normal.
• 55:47
  Yeah. God, Can you imagine today if
• 55:49
  they were introducing Lisa the
• 55:56
  big old puffed up lips and her
• 56:00
  else? And she'd be.
• 56:01
  Kardashianized or whatever it's called.
• 56:03
  Yeah, we don't get that from Lisa and I appreciate it.
• 56:06
  Thank you, Lisa. Lisa's Real and Lisa talks about
• 56:10
  the importance of nutritional value of food and aligning that
• 56:14
  to Janelle's weight loss goals.
• 56:15
  Yeah, Lisa shares with us that the workout shapes the body, but
• 56:23
  I think many people who have worked out or met with a
• 56:28
  nutritionist or worked with a trainer have probably heard that
• 56:38
  she's guessing that a 1500 calorie diet makes sense for
• 56:41
  Janelle, where she currently is and with her working out and all
• 56:48
  recipes. She gives her a meal plan, she
• 56:51
  hands her some papers, and I'm
• 56:54
  shopping list and all of that involved.
• 56:57
  And Janelle's a little intimidated, a little nervous
• 57:00
  about it. I have to say, when I went to a
• 57:04
  gym and got a meal plan myself, it was a relief.
• 57:08
  And as a mom, meal time is the
• 57:14
  I hate it so much and I often think I should go back to meal
• 57:20
  planning and planning the week
• 57:24
  my husband and I don't know why I don't.
• 57:27
  I don't know why I don't. Well, because you have a husband
• 57:30
  that cooks regularly as well, Darling, he does do that.
• 57:33
  Well, that was only for you. Well, and then when you cook,
• 57:37
  you know that ketchup on those
• 57:40
  just, it's great. Connie, don't, don't sell
• 57:43
  yourself short. You don't need a meal plan.
• 57:46
  Ramen noodles with ketchup Spaghetti you mean, right?
• 57:50
  Yes, almost as good as Robyn's.
• 57:53
  And while this is being reviewed, Lisa, Janelle,
• 57:56
  etcetera, what she's going to do.
• 57:58
  There's this cutaway to Janelle prepping some food or doing
• 58:00
  something in the kitchen. And it was great to see.
• 58:03
  There's like a pile of lettuce and a pile of diced up tomatoes
• 58:06
  and all this stuff. And I was like, it made me a
• 58:08
  little excited. It made me think I should do
• 58:11
  that. Janelle is looking good by the
• 58:16
  throughout this segment doing different workouts with her
• 58:19
  sweatband under her bangs and whipping them chains.
• 58:23
  The giant ropes. Giant ropes.
• 58:26
  Chains. The chains.
• 58:27
  She's breaking free of her chains.
• 58:29
  Breaking free of that scale and she's doing that Stairmaster and
• 58:38
  fierce. You know, there was 1 moment
• 58:40
  where she was like up on her arms and I don't know what she
• 58:45
  something and it was she was holding up her body.
• 58:47
  It was very different from when we first saw her working out
• 58:50
  where she was struggling to walk on a treadmill and shit.
• 58:53
  Like she was really, really, really struggling with anything
• 58:56
  physical when she started. When she had to push herself out
• 59:00
  And Janelle tells us that she hopes she gets the same payoff
• 59:07
  And I hope so too, Janelle. I am curious because if there is
• 59:20
  has not already. Yeah, because I think so many
• 59:24
  women struggle with this weight situation and hormones are a
• 59:30
  bitch. I've heard they can make you one
• 59:50
  meaningless time at Robyn's, going to another wives or just
• 1:00:00
  Little picnic in a basket. They are going to go to Red Rock
• 1:00:10
  Meri's nervous. She's not sure how he's going to
• 1:00:15
  I wonder what they're going to talk about.
• 1:00:18
  Kody says we're going to talk about if we're going to take
• 1:00:23
  scientific measures for baby making, I'm I'm paraphrasing.
• 1:00:27
  As they're arriving at Red Rock Canyon, Kody jokes.
• 1:00:33
  Would it bother you if I've been here with another woman?
• 1:00:38
  Meri says. Well, it does know that he said
• 1:00:41
  that. Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  Oh, my God. Typical man, putting his foot in
• 1:00:47
  Kody does need help from doing, you know, preventing doing this
• 1:00:50
  because he is just out of control.
• 1:00:51
  All of them have been there. So just a bad joke.
• 1:00:55
  And he's an idiot. Robyn and him go on the Fedora
• 1:01:01
  Place. I think he's been there with all
• 1:01:05
  brought, you know, and she feels special.
• 1:01:06
  And I'm going to give Robyn props here because she at least
• 1:01:10
  wore the right footwear. Wow.
• 1:01:14
  Meri is wearing clogs for climbing and they have a wooden
• 1:01:20
  heel on them. They're not just some
• 1:01:23
  Birkenstock flat clogs. No, they are heeled wooden
• 1:01:27
  clogs. Straight from Sweden or wherever
• 1:01:34
  No, they're not from Sweden. Where are they?
• 1:01:36
  Dutch. Dutch.
• 1:01:37
  They're Dutch. Clogs.
• 1:01:39
  So she's wearing her Dutch clogs, and they're going on a
• 1:01:42
  hike up a place called Red Rock Canyon, and I'm going Mayor,
• 1:01:45
  mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor. I always thought you were a
• 1:01:48
  little smarter than this. I mean, it literally was.
• 1:01:51
  I was scoffing because it was ridiculous.
• 1:01:53
  Meri is going Oh my Oh my, he's trying to get her to climb up
• 1:02:01
  this thing with her clod hoppers.
• 1:02:03
  Click, click, click, click. Meri has a voice over where she
• 1:02:06
  says he seems to be in a good mood.
• 1:02:08
  I was like, Oh my God, this is
• 1:02:11
  Meri's going into it like I'm wearing my clogs.
• 1:02:14
  Kody's in a good mood. We're going to talk about this
• 1:02:16
  baby decision. I've got a picnic.
• 1:02:18
  Things are great. I'm wearing a scarf.
• 1:02:20
  You can barely see my neck. My head is popping out of that,
• 1:02:23
  looking crazy. She's on her way up the side of
• 1:02:26
  that hill. Slowly but surely, she'll get
• 1:02:28
  there. She'd have been better off
• 1:02:30
  climbing up that thing barefoot,
• 1:02:33
  They they show multiple moments of her kind of, you know, I'm
• 1:02:36
  going to, I'm going to get my OK.
• 1:02:37
  I'm sturdy. I'm sturdy at the table.
• 1:02:39
  My name is Mayor. I'm here, I'm here.
• 1:02:40
  And it's like, OK, girl, you should have just worn some
• 1:02:42
  tennis shoes, but whatever. When they finally get planted on
• 1:02:45
  the big rock, they sit down. I'm envisioning them sitting
• 1:02:49
  crisscross applesauce. I don't think they were, but you
• 1:02:53
  know, they're just having a great time.
• 1:02:54
  Kody throws down that blanket,
• 1:02:57
  them. She's got her basket but we
• 1:03:00
  don't get to see them enjoying
• 1:03:02
  discussion of the baby has come up before they get to eat.
• 1:03:06
  We do get a beautiful aerial shot from up above somehow with
• 1:03:11
  all the red rocks around them and them sitting on the blanket.
• 1:03:14
  I don't recall if they were crisscross applesauce or not,
• 1:03:17
  but they did give us an aerial
• 1:03:19
  Yeah, and it is pretty. I love that part of the country.
• 1:03:21
  It is really pretty, yeah, and
• 1:03:25
  clogs there? But whatever, she could have
• 1:03:28
  borrowed some of Robyn's sneakers.
• 1:03:30
  She did borrow Robyn her long ass skirt for the last episode,
• 1:03:35
  you know. With the hydrangeas on it.
• 1:03:37
  So she could have asked for some
• 1:03:40
  whatever. When they start into the deep
• 1:03:43
  discussion about their potential
• 1:03:47
  he thinks about this potential baby decision.
• 1:03:50
  She says she hopes he has an open disposition, which is a big
• 1:03:55
  word for her. I thought that was pretty great.
• 1:03:58
  And then Kody has to reply, and,
• 1:04:03
  a turn for even worse than the
• 1:04:06
  mountain. Kody has a really weird thought
• 1:04:11
  process on this and it's hard to
• 1:04:15
  what he's trying to do is put the blame back on nature and
• 1:04:22
  God. He's kind of half assing saying
• 1:04:26
  what he means here. He says that because nature or
• 1:04:35
  feeling in our gut that we should do it, He hams and haws
• 1:04:50
  body, the responsibility of the choice lies more on your
• 1:04:55
  shoulders. And he's like, I'm not trying to
• 1:05:02
  the baby for nine months, dot dot, dot.
• 1:05:05
  Like we get where he's going with this.
• 1:05:08
  He's kind of blaming the fact that nature hasn't taken over or
• 1:05:16
  He's like passing the buck. They're passing it back and
• 1:05:20
  forth here. This whole conversation does
• 1:05:22
  come across to me as a not willing to just say what you
• 1:05:26
  want to say. You know, it's, it reads to me
• 1:05:31
  But instead of just coming out and saying it, he's doing this
• 1:05:37
  And you have to carry it. And it's a little nonsensical.
• 1:05:45
  And he says, it's not my gut burning.
• 1:05:49
  It's telling me that I have to do this.
• 1:05:52
  It's just not in my gut. And then Meri kind of says
• 1:05:56
  again, well, do you want to or not?
• 1:05:59
  Like she's trying to get him just to be clear with his
• 1:06:03
  answer, and he's not giving it to her yet.
• 1:06:07
  And then he says, I would do it if nature or if God or if it
• 1:06:12
  just happened, like, yeah, no problem.
• 1:06:14
  Because of the stakes and the fact that it's not burning up in
• 1:06:23
  I just say no. Right.
• 1:06:26
  What? In between these sentences, he's
• 1:06:33
  plague. I was very attuned to his
• 1:06:36
  nonverbals in this, and he was looking everywhere but at her.
• 1:06:44
  And then when going back to saying things, he would look
• 1:06:46
  away. He didn't actually want to look
• 1:06:47
  at her while he was saying these
• 1:06:51
  pointing to what we already know.
• 1:06:53
  And at one point after he said I would do it if nature or God
• 1:06:58
  just did it, he literally clears his throat as if he's struggling
• 1:07:06
  the sentences together because he's trying to lead or mislead
• 1:07:12
  with what he's actually thinking and feeling.
• 1:07:14
  He keeps saying it's not burning me up in the gut, it's not
• 1:07:18
  giving me that gut feeling and God in nature and I did write
• 1:07:23
  down word for word there and he just keeps saying that.
• 1:07:26
  And she is trying to get it out of him.
• 1:07:29
  And because of the stakes, like, OK, we get it.
• 1:07:34
  OK, come out and say it. And then Meri throws us for a
• 1:07:42
  bloop here and she says, well, if you want, I'm willing to do
• 1:07:52
  Kody says what are you talking about?
• 1:07:54
  What do you mean? We have plenty of information.
• 1:08:02
  I'm. Confused.
• 1:08:04
  We're all confused. We've gone to the doctor.
• 1:08:07
  I thought we'd done the research.
• 1:08:09
  I thought we had done the tests. Meri, why are you saying just
• 1:08:13
  now that you're willing to do the tests?
• 1:08:15
  I think she's trying to put the blame on Kody here, and he's not
• 1:08:23
  They're playing the hot potato game, passing this back and
• 1:08:27
  forth, and neither one of them is just clearly coming out and
• 1:08:32
  willing to do some tests again. I thought we were here to make
• 1:08:38
  We knew they were lying before about the efforts that they had
• 1:08:41
  made for her to get pregnant because of the obscure,
• 1:08:45
  generalized way that they would talk about the things that they
• 1:08:49
  did, you know, referencing fertility treatments.
• 1:08:51
  And yet we're going, we've watched this for five years, and
• 1:09:02
  seemed like it was their first? It was their first.
• 1:09:05
  It was a concentration. It wasn't even a real
• 1:09:07
  appointment. She was asking them how much
• 1:09:08
  they were fucking. Yeah, like she was trying to get
• 1:09:19
  No, it was all a lie and a sham. What a shock with this family.
• 1:09:25
  when Kody asks what she's even talking about.
• 1:09:28
  And I didn't really follow that either.
• 1:09:30
  I I felt like it was very broad and just, I don't even know.
• 1:09:34
  He is baffled and he says I'm checking myself.
• 1:09:37
  I'm checking myself to see if I'm copping out here.
• 1:09:41
  Which, of course you are. Kody, that's exactly what you're
• 1:09:51
  So you're saying no what? Sit on a no for a little bit and
• 1:10:01
  Right now I'm thinking no and Meri goes.
• 1:10:09
  After Kody talks about sitting
• 1:10:13
  finally saying no, Meri starts
• 1:10:16
  She says maybe let's and Kody interrupts and says right now
• 1:10:21
  I'm thinking no. And I thought it was very
• 1:10:23
  telling that immediately after
• 1:10:26
  that he's at a no, she starts doing the hot potato action.
• 1:10:31
  Well, maybe let's and he goes,
• 1:10:34
  didn't even let her finish the
• 1:10:37
  demonstrates to me that he does not want to be committal.
• 1:10:41
  He does not want to actually say
• 1:10:43
  And now he finally has, you know, he doesn't want to be
• 1:10:45
  responsible for saying no. And now he finally has.
• 1:10:47
  And so she's they're, they're just so fucked up.
• 1:10:50
  This is what they do, Meri. Well, maybe blah, blah, blah.
• 1:10:53
  And he's cut her off. No, we're not doing it and it
• 1:10:57
  seems like a long term thing for
• 1:10:58
  I imagine this is how so many of
• 1:11:02
  arguments go. Neither one of them can be very
• 1:11:04
  clear. Once one of them decides to, the
• 1:11:07
  other one pushes back. And then in this case, it's Meri
• 1:11:10
  and Kody's Just no, it is done.
• 1:11:12
  Leading up to this, I thought Meri was going to go into this
• 1:11:19
  I think in this very moment that Meri is changing her mind.
• 1:11:23
  Again, Yes, I think so too. I think we're seeing in real
• 1:11:27
  time because she goes after, he says.
• 1:11:29
  Right now I'm thinking no, she goes like she's thinking.
• 1:11:32
  She puts her hand on her face and then it cuts to an interview
• 1:11:50
  And I've got to think of where that place is for me now.
• 1:11:54
  And the way that she says he and all his other wives is telling
• 1:12:07
  displaced. It's just very bizarre because
• 1:12:18
  And then all of a sudden we're backtracking.
• 1:12:21
  Then she's triggered into, is that the final thing?
• 1:12:24
  Maybe, You know, I sense that that's what's happening when you
• 1:12:31
  but you haven't made your choice.
• 1:12:32
  So then you're like, but, but, but maybe not.
• 1:12:33
  You know, that does happen. And I just think with them, it's
• 1:12:40
  They are just never going to truly come to this decision
• 1:12:44
  together. At the same time, it's like
• 1:12:46
  wrong place, wrong time constantly with them, with this.
• 1:12:54
  episode so many times because it
• 1:12:57
  The quotes were all over the place.
• 1:12:59
  There were a lot of dot dot dot moments, a lot of the same
• 1:13:04
  things being kind of repeated in
• 1:13:08
  It was a bizarre conversation.
• 1:13:12
  After Meri's voice over interview moment, Kody says
• 1:13:15
  let's sit on it as the no. If it's a no, are you waking up
• 1:13:20
  at night crying over not having a baby?
• 1:13:24
  Let's sit on that. Let's sit on the no.
• 1:13:28
  There's these silences, these moments between these things
• 1:13:31
  that you were, you know, you were as you were talking about,
• 1:13:33
  just kind of this uncommittal,
• 1:13:38
  no. So I guess we're not.
• 1:13:41
  And after he does this final, let's sit on the no.
• 1:13:45
  They embrace and hug. Well, there's this sad piano
• 1:13:50
  music playing. They kiss and hug like they've
• 1:13:54
  made a decision. Right.
• 1:13:55
  And it's so weird. It's my take away was that I
• 1:13:58
  guess they landed at no. Well then, Meri says.
• 1:14:03
  Now that we've made this decision, we have to let Leon
• 1:14:07
  know. Of course.
• 1:14:08
  I'm like, bitch, what decision?
• 1:14:10
  No, I guess. Kody said no more times than he
• 1:14:14
  said yes. Or maybe so I guess it's a no.
• 1:14:21
  Right. Well, I just so badly wish that
• 1:14:25
  I could interject, push pause on these guys, stand next to
• 1:14:29
  them and be like Meri. What Kody is saying that is that
• 1:14:36
  intervene scientifically in your womb.
• 1:14:38
  The answer is no. Right.
• 1:14:40
  Can we just clearly say this hasn't happened naturally for
• 1:14:44
  us? And so I really am leaning
• 1:14:47
  towards no. And I think that we need to call
• 1:14:53
  Well, right. And I think the reason that it's
• 1:14:58
  Kody's not in love with Meri. It's obvious to me in this
• 1:15:03
  scene, and maybe it's not obvious to other people.
• 1:15:06
  Maybe I'm jumping to too much of a conclusion.
• 1:15:08
  I think that when Kody can't make eye contact with her, it's
• 1:15:12
  because he is no longer in love with her.
• 1:15:15
  I think he almost resents her. I think he's definitely not
• 1:15:20
  interested in reproducing with her.
• 1:15:22
  And another tie in to keep them together like a child being
• 1:15:27
  born. That's at least another 18 years
• 1:15:36
  And I do not have the same thing
• 1:15:38
  with you. And Meri does talk about that a
• 1:15:40
  bit moving forward here, about
• 1:15:44
  thing? And he loves that she's in that
• 1:15:46
  fucking position. He does not want to be committed
• 1:15:50
  to her in any way other than this religious dogmatic
• 1:15:53
  obligation that they have and that she brings in a paycheck.
• 1:15:57
  I'm convinced of it. I know that I might sound like a
• 1:16:01
  conspiracy theorist in a nut job, and maybe even in our
• 1:16:03
  previous episodes. I haven't hounded on it enough.
• 1:16:07
  He's not in love with her. I don't think he's in love with
• 1:16:10
  her. I think he fell out of love with
• 1:16:11
  her a while ago. I would also add that there's a
• 1:16:13
  financial aspect here that if you get science involved and if
• 1:16:17
  you do the in vitro route, we know that they're not on any
• 1:16:21
  sort of insurance through somebody's employer, right?
• 1:16:25
  I guess we don't know that, but they're probably paying out the
• 1:16:29
  ass for insurance and he is thinking this would all be out
• 1:16:33
  of pocket. This doesn't financially make
• 1:16:36
  sense. And to top it off, I have
• 1:16:38
  someone else with a perfectly good womb.
• 1:16:42
  Why would I be doing this with
• 1:16:45
  I can go and have another baby
• 1:16:48
  This is part of the whole preview that we've been seeing
• 1:16:51
  of him falling out of love, quote, UN quote with all of his
• 1:16:54
  other wives because he's got Robyn.
• 1:16:56
  And maybe with the other ones,
• 1:16:59
  or it hasn't made such an impact
• 1:17:02
  But to me, this is a big one going, yeah, he doesn't love
• 1:17:06
  you. I don't think he was talking to
• 1:17:08
  her as if he was in love with her.
• 1:17:10
  This conversation was not married people in love.
• 1:17:13
  And we've joked about Meri having her conversations with
• 1:17:15
  other people. I think ultimately she's OK with
• 1:17:19
  this decision, but I think she
• 1:17:22
  being OK with it. 100%, yeah. She can put the blame elsewhere
• 1:17:27
  now. He finally came out and said it.
• 1:17:30
  She doesn't have to be the bad
• 1:17:33
  She doesn't have to be the bad
• 1:17:35
  wives. We're going to find out real
• 1:17:38
  quickly here that she's already blaming him, Meri.
• 1:17:42
  In a recent episode where you asked, oh, is this teeing up so
• 1:17:46
  that we can have another disappointment for Leon?
• 1:17:48
  Well, here we go girl. You called it and here it is.
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, Meri says that Kody's reasons make complete sense.
• 1:17:57
  It just makes me kind of sad, like, you know, all right, it's
• 1:18:01
  done. Yeah.
• 1:18:04
  I think we all knew. And you knew it was done long
• 1:18:08
  before hiking your clogged ass
• 1:18:12
  rocks. OK.
• 1:18:15
  We didn't need to see hoof it up
• 1:18:19
  Maybe if she would have shown a little, you know, collarbone or
• 1:18:22
  a little wrist action she could have.
• 1:18:24
  Ankle on top of them Claws this is.
• 1:18:26
  It she could have reminded him
• 1:18:30
  Imagine seeing her from behind
• 1:18:33
  Like just hoofing it up there vertically.
• 1:18:38
  Oh, mayor. Oh.
• 1:18:39
  Poor thing. She also says that I'm hoping
• 1:18:42
  this is time to recreate our relationship and figure out who
• 1:18:46
  we are now. So she's using the talking
• 1:18:48
  points of what the next steps are and she's wrestling with the
• 1:18:51
  empty nest stuff and all of these things.
• 1:18:54
  It's almost like she's got a matrix of decisions and what
• 1:18:57
  they mean, and she's trying to
• 1:19:02
  decisions on any of them. I'm a victim.
• 1:19:04
  No matter what happens. I'm trying to figure it all out.
• 1:19:07
  Meanwhile, I don't know that she's so indecisive.
• 1:19:10
  I think she just likes playing
• 1:19:13
  Because now she gets to play the
• 1:19:15
  Yeah, and now she gets to play
• 1:19:19
  Leon's disappointment. And as you said, talking to the
• 1:19:23
  other wives. And so now we get to have that
• 1:19:25
  conversation, the first one we
• 1:19:28
  Robyn, her good friend Robyn, her closest sister, wife Robyn.
• 1:19:33
  Yeah, we go to Robyn's house and
• 1:19:37
  Meri's. Strolling across the street.
• 1:19:40
  Going to have a conversation. Meri called her up and wanted to
• 1:19:46
  Going to walk over there and have a little talk.
• 1:19:50
  I just don't even get it. I'm like going to walk over
• 1:19:53
  there and have a little talk. Why was this necessary?
• 1:19:55
  Why is this in there? Why do they keep these lines in
• 1:19:59
  from these people? I guess it's because, like you
• 1:20:05
  And so they're probably prompting her.
• 1:20:06
  Robyn, what are you doing right now?
• 1:20:08
  And she says, going to walk over there and have a little talk.
• 1:20:12
  What the fuck? Oh my God.
• 1:20:15
  We have to get the flashback to the offer of surrogacy though.
• 1:20:35
  Meri, while you're all emotional
• 1:20:39
  going to offer my. Womb, we can take a part of you
• 1:20:43
  and a part of Kody and put it inside of me and God can make it
• 1:20:48
  grow into a beautiful baby. OK, she didn't say that, but she
• 1:20:52
  did say a part of Kody and a part of Meri together something,
• 1:20:56
  and it was disturbing, very disturbing.
• 1:20:58
  Oh, Meri feels that she owes it to Robyn to have this
• 1:21:02
  discussion with her. Because they have such a close
• 1:21:04
  relationship. Yes, she says.
• 1:21:06
  I figured I should tell you about our conversation.
• 1:21:10
  So Kody and I have talked and we've mutually decided to not go
• 1:21:15
  forward with it. Before she tells Robyn that in
• 1:21:18
  her voice over moment, she says it would have been kind of cool
• 1:21:22
  to raise kids together and I once again would have been kind
• 1:21:26
  of cool. Bitch, what are you doing?
• 1:21:28
  Oh my God, it's like she's 17 or
• 1:21:31
  No, no, no, she's 14. Pregnancy Pack.
• 1:21:34
  It would be kind of cool if we
• 1:21:37
  Oh my God. Which we've talked about before.
• 1:21:40
  Like, aren't you? Isn't that what you're doing?
• 1:21:43
  Isn't that what you and all the other wives are doing with all
• 1:21:45
  of your 17 children? Raising them together?
• 1:21:49
  It's hard with that ungrateful
• 1:21:53
  But then Meri kind of goes backwards in what she literally
• 1:21:57
  just said, and she says she went
• 1:22:03
  with intentions of starting proceedings, but Kody basically
• 1:22:09
  said no. Robyn goes to through the
• 1:22:12
  conversation you are feeling and
• 1:22:16
  He said no. And then there's a Dun Dun.
• 1:22:19
  And there's multiple interruptions in these
• 1:22:21
  conversations, which I think are
• 1:22:24
  don't allow each other to actually finish their thoughts
• 1:22:27
  so they can imply what a conclusion could be or usher
• 1:22:30
  them to a decision. And it's just bizarre.
• 1:22:33
  Robyn, he said no. It's like we're watching a bad
• 1:22:37
  sitcom that was written with nobody in the know and we're
• 1:22:42
  just the omniscient character watching this play out and no
• 1:22:47
  one's on the same page ever. Absolutely, Absolutely.
• 1:22:51
  What is happening? Is this real life?
• 1:22:56
  It's supposed to be reality TV, apparently.
• 1:22:59
  I do really think that this is
• 1:23:02
  communicate that little oh God
• 1:23:07
  saying, well, I went up there and I was going to say yes and
• 1:23:11
  now Kody. He said no, as if you don't know
• 1:23:16
  what Kody was going to say. Robyn.
• 1:23:18
  Oh. Robyn had no idea what Kody was
• 1:23:19
  going to say. Oh, I believe that.
• 1:23:22
  Please. So after Robyn interrupts by
• 1:23:25
  asking if he said no and Meri says yes, Robyn asks if she
• 1:23:29
  thinks this is the right answer.
• 1:23:31
  And because you know, these people are just, they have such
• 1:23:34
  a way with words. Meri says I don't know, it just
• 1:23:38
  is what it is right now. So once again, no real
• 1:23:42
  direction, no confirmation or affirmation.
• 1:23:45
  It just is what it is right now. And this is where we get another
• 1:23:58
  would be different, but she is the empty nester alone.
• 1:24:02
  And then we go back to Robyn and Robyn says.
• 1:24:07
  I feel like I dragged something up when I offered.
• 1:24:12
  I feel like you guys had kind of let it go.
• 1:24:16
  I'm sorry if I did. And I didn't know if this was
• 1:24:22
  authentic or not. What was your take?
• 1:24:24
  Because I was, I, I never really believed Robyn.
• 1:24:27
  But then when she was talking, I'm going, does she really feel
• 1:24:30
  bad about bringing this up? Because a normal person would
• 1:24:33
  feel bad if they genuinely thought, oh, I thought you guys
• 1:24:35
  put this to bed. I thought it was to rest.
• 1:24:37
  And now I brought it up and you've been going back and forth
• 1:24:41
  You're hurt, you know. What did you think?
• 1:24:44
  Yeah, I think it's so disingenuous because Robyn keeps
• 1:24:50
  and kind of like, grimacing. Yeah.
• 1:24:52
  Like she can't handle Meri's emotion because Meri is crying
• 1:24:57
  Yeah. And you know, we all know how
• 1:24:59
  pretty of a crier Meri is. And.
• 1:25:02
  Just like me. Right.
• 1:25:04
  We can just tell that Robyn's uncomfortable and she's like,
• 1:25:07
  oh, I feel like I drug something up.
• 1:25:10
  Oh, I'm so sorry. OK, OK.
• 1:25:14
  She's cringing backwards and making this grimace face as if
• 1:25:21
  And she says a part of me thinks that it would have been really
• 1:25:33
  But you know, I just don't ever do what everyone else does.
• 1:25:35
  And I don't do the cool thing just to do the cool thing.
• 1:25:41
  Because in their family, the cool thing is to push out as
• 1:25:43
  many babies as you can, you know?
• 1:25:45
  They talk about praying here and
• 1:25:50
  on it, if she's prayed to feel
• 1:25:54
  I've prayed to feel something and I just don't.
• 1:25:58
  Meri also talks about how she didn't want to have another baby
• 1:26:01
  just to replace Leon. You know, another supporting
• 1:26:04
  bullet point of trying to avoid the empty nest whatnot.
• 1:26:08
  And before Robyn had apologized to bringing up the surrogacy,
• 1:26:11
  she even references how with the
• 1:26:15
  and she is, that he's raising kids with his other wives.
• 1:26:20
  So another call in to how Kody
• 1:26:24
  other wives and she doesn't and she's doing this empty nest
• 1:26:28
  thing and he isn't. And so it's a divide for them.
• 1:26:31
  But it doesn't have to be that
• 1:26:33
  And it bothers me because now you've got all these freaking
• 1:26:37
  rooms that you had to have. You could have those kids over.
• 1:26:41
  You could have sleepovers at your house.
• 1:26:43
  Leon could be away at college.
• 1:26:46
  girls, let's have a little girl sleepover.
• 1:26:48
  Let's have a popcorn movie night.
• 1:26:50
  She's got that loft and that video game console up there.
• 1:26:53
  They were already up there at one point.
• 1:26:55
  Have it a weekly thing, have it every other day.
• 1:26:57
  Do it as much as you want. You're not going to have to be
• 1:27:00
  an empty nester, and that's the whole point of being a sister
• 1:27:03
  wife, isn't it? Thought so.
• 1:27:05
  Well, one of, you know, yes. Raising the kids.
• 1:27:07
  And then when you're an empty nester, you have a companion
• 1:27:09
  that's not your husband. Yeah.
• 1:27:11
  Kody's mom, stepmom, his dad's
• 1:27:15
  Refer to how they are good friends now that they had their
• 1:27:18
  problems and challenges with Kody's dad and starting a
• 1:27:22
  polygamous family. And then there was the
• 1:27:24
  children's stuff. And then when all that changes,
• 1:27:27
  they all of a sudden have these dynamics that are close
• 1:27:29
  friendships. So working on your relationships
• 1:27:32
  with the other sister wives and embracing their children and
• 1:27:35
  treating them as your own are the big things we thought.
• 1:27:39
  I thought that you were all going to live as Golden Girls
• 1:27:42
  when this was said and done, you
• 1:27:44
  Which ones? Meri.
• 1:27:46
  Meri's definitely the Dorothy.
• 1:27:51
  Sorry to say it, Dorothy. Sorry Dorothy, I love Dorothy.
• 1:27:54
  And so it's like, oh God, sorry honey, but it's.
• 1:27:57
  True. Oh gosh.
• 1:27:58
  Robyn's the Blanche. Oh.
• 1:28:00
  God, the little hussy. Of course.
• 1:28:03
  But Robyn could also be the no
• 1:28:06
  She's just a little dingy. She's Christine.
• 1:28:08
  Christine for sure. Yes, and I guess that means
• 1:28:12
  Janelle is. Of course.
• 1:28:15
  Oh yeah, totally, totally. Wise know it all right, Wise
• 1:28:19
  cracking behind the backs, you
• 1:28:22
  The cackle, the head throwback
• 1:28:25
  Sophia Go. Sicily.
• 1:28:27
  Yes, yes, picture it. Picture it. 2013 Red Rock
• 1:28:33
  Canyon. So silly.
• 1:28:37
  I'm loving it, goodness. But as Meri, you know, continues
• 1:28:41
  to share her feelings, Robyn tries to reassure her.
• 1:28:46
  But I, I just got a bunch of gobbledygook.
• 1:28:47
  I was like, Oh my God, Robyn, you just keep talking and it's a
• 1:28:50
  bunch of nothing. I don't know.
• 1:28:51
  Did any of it mean? Did any of it mean anything
• 1:28:54
  beyond her apologizing for the
• 1:28:58
  No, she doesn't even rub her back or anything like she's done
• 1:29:02
  before, Right? They're very distant.
• 1:29:04
  Meri's even sitting in a chair, I believe, and Robyn's sitting
• 1:29:07
  on a couch. And yeah.
• 1:29:10
  There is no sense of their friendship here.
• 1:29:15
  I agree. It's a weird interaction and
• 1:29:17
  Robyn's literally cringing through it.
• 1:29:21
  Faux reassuring her and it's ridiculous.
• 1:29:25
  Meri says at one point I'm on a different level.
• 1:29:28
  I don't want to have a child just to feel included.
• 1:29:33
  Yeah, that's not a good reason
• 1:29:38
  Totally. And Meri wraps up that
• 1:29:42
  conversation by saying, anyway, that's where I am right now.
• 1:29:46
  OK. And.
• 1:29:47
  It's so. I don't know.
• 1:29:48
  I'm from the Midwest. It sounds like the way my dad
• 1:29:51
  would end a conversation, let's say there's some sort of
• 1:29:53
  dispute, maybe I'm being reprimanded and I'm 1614,
• 1:29:56
  whatever. Anyway, that's where I am right
• 1:29:59
  now. Just kind of like, that's the
• 1:30:01
  end, I guess. Like we're just done now and
• 1:30:03
  that's that. OK.
• 1:30:04
  Yeah. Wrapping up production was
• 1:30:07
  tapping on the watch. Like, come on, you're not even
• 1:30:09
  sitting by each other. We got to wrap it up.
• 1:30:11
  Well it just makes it feel disingenuous that she was even
• 1:30:14
  crying because OK, to me saying and ending it that way just
• 1:30:20
  means that you already had come to this conclusion, so why are
• 1:30:23
  you lying now and saying that Kody is the one that did it and
• 1:30:27
  you had gone into it with a different mindset?
• 1:30:30
  It's just not adding up. It's just fishy.
• 1:30:32
  She cannot pick Elaine. She cannot pick Elaine.
• 1:30:36
  So after this lovely scene between two close sister wives
• 1:30:40
  comes where where we we're going.
• 1:30:42
  They're close and their sister
• 1:30:44
  It comes to an end. And of course, we get to end the
• 1:30:46
  episode with Kody. Well, actually there's Kody and
• 1:30:51
  then there's Meri. But Kody has to give us a
• 1:30:53
  wonderful sound bite as we're ushered into the end of this
• 1:30:56
  episode. Oh God, this one's, this one's
• 1:30:59
  real. This one's real.
• 1:31:00
  This one's a doozy. This one's a doozy, honey.
• 1:31:02
  Why don't, why don't you get us started and I'll, I'll pick it
• 1:31:04
  up when you when the man has to take over, OK?
• 1:31:09
  Kody says the great thing about being human and for her, the
• 1:31:15
  great thing about being a woman is that she can change her mind
• 1:31:21
  a million times. And I'm just going to say, hey,
• 1:31:25
  I like it that way. Oh.
• 1:31:27
  My God, it is so Shania Twain.
• 1:31:30
  Shit, I did not even notice that.
• 1:31:34
  Of course, it stood out to me that he had to emphasize that
• 1:31:36
  because she's a woman, that she could change her mind a million
• 1:31:40
  times and that he was just going
• 1:31:44
  I like it that. Way.
• 1:31:46
  I wonder if he really was inspired by Shania Twain with
• 1:31:50
  that. Seriously, that's so crazy.
• 1:31:53
  Seriously, I wrote. OK, Shania.
• 1:31:56
  Oh my God that is straight up lyrics from a fucking pop song.
• 1:32:00
  That is insane, Wow. He has a way with words.
• 1:32:05
  He really? Does I didn't know he wrote that
• 1:32:07
  song but. Shania should give him a little
• 1:32:10
  nod. I just want to see Kody in that
• 1:32:13
  leopard print, you know that. That don't impress me much.
• 1:32:15
  That look from when she's in the
• 1:32:17
  I. Literally have that costume.
• 1:32:19
  I was her for Halloween. One year, that's right, that's
• 1:32:21
  right. It would definitely one up the
• 1:32:23
  apron look from earlier in the.
• 1:32:24
  Episode we're going to put you in that costume and that's going
• 1:32:30
  Costume with the leg, honey. Just one more month or two of
• 1:32:34
  these extreme workouts I'm dealing and I'll be ready for
• 1:32:36
  it. I'll be skinny as a needle.
• 1:32:38
  Oh. And this is where Meri helps us
• 1:32:42
  wrap up this episode, this touching episode where
• 1:32:44
  apparently we made a decision. She wonders what her value is to
• 1:32:52
  And I thought, Meri, it's called a paycheck.
• 1:32:56
  Yeah, what value am I bringing to the family now?
• 1:33:00
  Helping raise the other kids. What you would think?
• 1:33:05
  Bringing in that bacon. Bringing in the bacon.
• 1:33:09
  That's that's definitely #1 crafting, crafting, standing
• 1:33:12
  over people while they're doing tasks and directing them member.
• 1:33:19
  If you want something done right, have Meri stand over you
• 1:33:22
  and watch. That's what I always say.
• 1:33:25
  You know, we need Meri, we need you here to supervise and
• 1:33:27
  everybody knows that to move furniture, right?
• 1:33:30
  She has so many reasons to be in
• 1:33:33
  justifiable reasons. Well, that's how that episode
• 1:33:36
  ends. We get the Next up on.
• 1:33:40
  The Next up on we rarely talk about the Next up on.
• 1:33:43
  So honey, I have a feeling you
• 1:33:46
  We have to talk about this one.
• 1:33:48
  We are going to get the panel on polygamy episode next, and we
• 1:33:53
  hear a little bit about how Christine's aunt is going to be
• 1:33:58
  there and how she's completely against polygamy.
• 1:34:01
  But for current time's sake, I noticed that we have a little
• 1:34:08
  person on that panel named Christine Marie, and she is the
• 1:34:13
  woman behind the Netflix documentary Trust Me, the False
• 1:34:18
  Prophet about Samuel Bateman that just came out.
• 1:34:21
  That's right, which I enjoyed watching.
• 1:34:23
  I thought it was good. It was good and I wanted to look
• 1:34:29
  Trust me. The False Prophet was filmed
• 1:34:32
  from 20/21 to 20/22. It was released this year, 2026.
• 1:34:38
  This panel episode aired September 15th of 2013, so
• 1:34:44
  almost 10 full years that Christine Marie has been working
• 1:34:50
  behind the scenes. Right, doing all of the.
• 1:34:53
  Doing all of this work. Yeah, at least that much time.
• 1:34:55
  At least, yeah. And we get a return of blonde
• 1:34:59
  haired beauty with the extreme
• 1:35:03
  Our favorite makeup artist, Colleen.
• 1:35:05
  Colleen. Oh, an inspiration to all.
• 1:35:09
  I'm looking forward to this episode because it's pretty
• 1:35:11
  good. It's pretty good.
• 1:35:13
  I've never seen it. I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:35:17
  Oh yeah, Christine's reaction to
• 1:35:19
  Oh, I can't wait. Trust we're going to need a
• 1:35:21
  drink for this. One cannot wait.
• 1:35:22
  It's a whole thing. It's a whole.
• 1:35:24
  Thing, yes. How exciting.
• 1:35:25
  Well, we made it through this one.
• 1:35:27
  We we find. Are we going to put Meri's baby
• 1:35:29
  decision to rest? Are we going to bury it in the
• 1:35:32
  backyard with Drake? With the bag.
• 1:35:35
  Oh yeah, and with the Igloo. Cooler, cooler, cooler, all the
• 1:35:40
  things that get buried in this
• 1:35:43
  Meri's baby decision. Sorry Mayor, you know what time
• 1:35:48
  it is, darling. Mustard seed and shit stain.
• 1:35:53
  Which one do you want to start
• 1:35:55
  Are you feeling high or are you feeling low?
• 1:35:57
  I think that this time around I'm going to start with my shit
• 1:36:02
  stain. Love it.
• 1:36:04
  And it's going to go to Meri. OK.
• 1:36:09
  It might be a little surprising,
• 1:36:13
  into the baby decision with her mind, made-up one way and
• 1:36:20
  flipped it to play the victim card.
• 1:36:24
  Yeah, most likely to get out of being blamed by Leon.
• 1:36:30
  Sure. And the rest of the family.
• 1:36:34
  And the wishy washyness and the pretending I can't get behind
• 1:36:39
  it. Yeah, we're six seasons in.
• 1:36:42
  You cannot tell me that at this point you really, truly thought
• 1:36:47
  you were going to sit your clogged ass down on the top of
• 1:36:58
  the medical proceedings for my womb, bitch.
• 1:37:03
  No. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:37:05
  You cannot convince me that that was what you were actually
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  thinking until he opened his fucking mouth.
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  Right. Agreed.
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  Agreed. And apparently they'd already
• 1:37:15
  gone through those processes. So at best she's a liar.
• 1:37:18
  And that's at best. It's just going to be simple
• 1:37:21
  cleaning cut for me this time around and that's that.
• 1:37:23
  I can't with this back and forth with them anymore.
• 1:37:27
  We're fucking done with it. Please.
• 1:37:29
  Yes, I heard a round of applause out in the distance.
• 1:37:33
  Everyone agrees. Yeah, my shit stain goes to her
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  loving husband Kody Brown. And pretty cut and dry for me
• 1:37:40
  this episode as well. The necklaces idea, Trash fresh,
• 1:37:48
  whoever the hell their names were, Melissa and Matthew,
• 1:37:52
  whatever Something Enterprises people were there because they
• 1:37:58
  Unfortunately, they also did bring them to a family friendly
• 1:38:01
  casino to sell their wholesale jewelry in one store as an
• 1:38:04
  exclusive. I don't know.
• 1:38:05
  I don't know, but Kody's buying it all and Kody sucks.
• 1:38:09
  So the necklaces are terrible. But obviously the conversation
• 1:38:16
  spouse in the eye and have an honest conversation about how
• 1:38:21
  you're feeling about reproducing and bringing another life into
• 1:38:30
  I think he's not even in love with her anymore.
• 1:38:33
  I think he doesn't know what to do with her.
• 1:38:35
  I think he actually, the vibe, to me feels like he's almost
• 1:38:39
  irritated with her. And so he was just playing along
• 1:38:44
  producers that needed to be dragged out.
• 1:38:46
  And now it's coming to an end and he finally had to say no.
• 1:38:51
  And it was the weirdest no to get to because he can't be
• 1:38:56
  decisive. He doesn't want to disappoint
• 1:38:59
  her on camera. I don't know if they were off
• 1:39:01
  camera if it would have been different.
• 1:39:02
  If they were off camera, none of this would even be happening.
• 1:39:05
  So I don't know why I'm even posing that.
• 1:39:06
  Kody, you are a shit stain. Yeah, why couldn't he even
• 1:39:11
  clearly just say what he was alluding to and just say, well,
• 1:39:17
  it did not happen naturally? God is obviously not on our side
• 1:39:28
  science involved, right? If that is truly your religious
• 1:39:31
  beliefs, why not just come out and say that and just say no and
• 1:39:42
  God, it's so. Messy.
• 1:39:43
  I know, I know. And the signs are becoming more
• 1:39:46
  and more clear. The Reds are more red, the green
• 1:39:52
  yellow. It's like you speed up or do you
• 1:40:02
  everyone's waiting for the mustard seed.
• 1:40:04
  Everybody's waiting for the mustard seed.
• 1:40:07
  Everybody's waiting for the mustard seed.
• 1:40:09
  Can I give my mustard seed to somebody?
• 1:40:13
  Weird this time because I don't really think anyone deserved.
• 1:40:16
  It. Sure.
• 1:40:17
  There's nothing splendid going on here that I'm like, oh, you.
• 1:40:21
  Yeah, you deserve it.
• 1:40:23
  I'm going to give it to Gina because this poor woman, they
• 1:40:30
  tried to get her to say things
• 1:40:32
  I think the producers tried to
• 1:40:38
  her hardest. She really did.
• 1:40:40
  She kind of failed her husband
• 1:40:43
  of times. She also tried to stand up for
• 1:40:47
  the family in a weird way like
• 1:40:52
  behind weirdos like us vibes. And she does seem like she has
• 1:40:59
  good intentions with trying to
• 1:41:03
  jewelry endeavor and I'm just going to give it to her.
• 1:41:06
  They tried to tear up a few times to get some good quotes
• 1:41:10
  and this. Poor woman.
• 1:41:11
  Yeah, it was totally weird too
• 1:41:15
  aggressive nature in her response which wasn't fitting to
• 1:41:18
  what she was saying. Which is why they used it in a
• 1:41:20
  coming up on footage to make us think.
• 1:41:22
  They tried to trick. Us, she was going to talk shit
• 1:41:24
  about them when really she was
• 1:41:28
  Yeah, I kind of just feel bad for her because you can tell
• 1:41:31
  she's a nice person and it was
• 1:41:34
  They kind of did her dirty and I
• 1:41:37
  of not on TV. Doesn't know what to do.
• 1:41:39
  I know I kind of felt bad for her because you can tell that
• 1:41:42
  she was trying. Yeah, she really was.
• 1:41:44
  She's. Going to get my mustard seed.
• 1:41:47
  I'll accept Gina for that one.
• 1:41:50
  even, you know, I just don't think anyone really stood out.
• 1:41:54
  So I'm curious to see who gets
• 1:41:58
  My mustard seed is going to go
• 1:42:05
  for her when she volunteered that she's been dieting since 8
• 1:42:08
  years old. That really hits in a weird
• 1:42:12
  place. Yeah, it was weird.
• 1:42:14
  And even if you don't have the
• 1:42:18
  though it it reminded me of things that I've struggled with
• 1:42:25
  since being a kid. Yeah.
• 1:42:27
  And so I really identified with that.
• 1:42:30
  I agree. And, and while some of her gym
• 1:42:36
  and weight loss and whatnot, and
• 1:42:39
  little awkward or strange at times, I appreciate that she's
• 1:42:43
  really leaning into it. And although she's disappointed
• 1:42:46
  in her plateau and struggles with the scale specifically,
• 1:42:49
  she's still showing up. She's still doing the work.
• 1:42:51
  And that sucks when you're on a weight loss journey, when
• 1:42:54
  you're on any health journey where you hit the plateaus,
• 1:42:57
  the highs feel great, the lows suck in the plateaus are not
• 1:43:01
  great. So I feel for her, and I'm just
• 1:43:03
  glad that she's continuing to show up and doing the work at
• 1:43:06
  this point in the show, you know?
• 1:43:07
  I do appreciate that she gave the nutritionist her compliments
• 1:43:15
  Yeah, no, that was a genuine, honest reaction of like, wow,
• 1:43:21
  this woman so pretty. I'm intimidated by her.
• 1:43:23
  And it was very refreshing to see a real woman in in that clip
• 1:43:33
  Yeah, an organic praise as well. Like it was genuine coming from
• 1:43:36
  Janelle, Yeah. So I do feel like we're at a bit
• 1:43:41
  This is kind of bringing it back to the scale thing.
• 1:43:45
  And I, I want to see her pull forward.
• 1:43:48
  I want to see more forward momentum from her.
• 1:43:51
  And so I'm excited to see where this nutritionist takes her.
• 1:43:56
  I really AM. It'll be interesting to see if
• 1:44:03
  because you know how the show is.
• 1:44:05
  This is. True, it might just we might
• 1:44:07
  never hear about it again. Like who knows?
• 1:44:09
  But I don't want to burst your bubble.
• 1:44:11
  Just saying, you know, Janelle, Janelle, you did get a mustard
• 1:44:18
  is an Apple review coming to us from Amanda Chaban.
• 1:44:21
  So Chaban I think might be a combination of some things, I'm
• 1:44:26
  not quite sure so I'll just say Amanda and Amanda's review is
• 1:44:30
  titled. Love you guys so much.
• 1:44:32
  Amanda says I am new to Sister Wives and you guys have been the
• 1:44:38
  You always give me an AB workout
• 1:44:42
  Kimber's deranged Scarlett O'Hara version of Robyn is
• 1:44:45
  somehow the least correct yet the most spot on impression I've
• 1:44:48
  ever heard. I'm sad that I'm almost caught
• 1:44:51
  up and now I have to wait a whole week for your takes.
• 1:44:54
  Keep it going. I love that when I read the
• 1:44:58
  Scarlett O'Hara version of Robyn, the least correct and
• 1:45:02
  most spot on. I was like, that is amazing.
• 1:45:06
  It's so true. Well, I do declare, Amanda,
• 1:45:10
  thank you for that review. It was a lovely visual
• 1:45:14
  stimulation for us to read that and I truly, truly appreciate
• 1:45:20
  it. Thank you.
• 1:45:23
  Wow, that was truly a special moment for us all.
• 1:45:30
  Thank you for the five star reviews.
• 1:45:31
  If you listen to the show and you haven't left us a review
• 1:45:33
  yet, please leave us five stars if you feel we deserve it.
• 1:45:36
  And even if you don't feel we deserve it, please do.
• 1:45:38
  It helps us to get shared with
• 1:45:41
  this Drain show just as much as you do.
• 1:45:43
  But please, only the five stars,
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  I'm going to say this one's in
• 1:45:50
  It's in the bag. We got it.