Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Tim Scheld, longtime NY radio reporter and WOR alum Interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, we are honored to be joined by Tim Scheld.
- 0:03Speaker 1: If you don't know the name, you're certainly going to
- 0:06Speaker 1: know the voice. He is a longtime New York radio
- 0:09Speaker 1: news reporter, an alum of WOR, but he's pretty well
- 0:15Speaker 1: known for his work at News Radio 88. He was
- 0:19Speaker 1: the news director there for two decades. He's been a
- 0:22Speaker 1: journalist for five decades. He's covered every big story in
- 0:27Speaker 1: this in this city. As a matter of fact, he
- 0:30Speaker 1: does have a book out. That's not what we're talking
- 0:32Speaker 1: about today, but it's worth mentioning. My Front Row Seat,
- 0:35Speaker 1: A Newsman's Journey.
- 0:37Speaker 2: And I would.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Imagine September 11th, 2001 plays heavy in that book, Tim.
- 0:44Speaker 1: And that's what we want to talk to you about today.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Hey, Larry. Thank you. That was sweet of you to say. Yeah.
- 0:52Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, September 11th, well, first of all, it's
- 0:55Speaker 3: a day that none of us will ever forget it
- 0:58Speaker 3: and not forget just for, you know, what we.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Saw or felt, but just how it felt.
- 1:03Speaker 3: It feels so heavy even today as we look at
- 1:06Speaker 3: the 25th anniversary.
- 1:07Speaker 2: And, um, yeah, it was, uh, it's just amazing.
- 1:10Speaker 3: It's overwhelming how many stories there are and how many
- 1:14Speaker 3: we don't even still know.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Um, I mean, I was looking at a Facebook feed just.
- 1:18Speaker 3: A little while ago and saw a story of a
- 1:20Speaker 3: guy that, um, was caught in the debris, but lived
- 1:24Speaker 3: and I had never even heard his story.
- 1:25Speaker 2: It's just amazing.
- 1:27Speaker 3: What we went through as a city, as a community
- 1:30Speaker 3: at a day when, you know, war was waged on us,
- 1:34Speaker 3: you know.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Now, Tim, this is Curtis Sliwa. On that day, I
- 1:38Speaker 4: was broadcasting. There was no internet. There was no feed.
- 1:43Speaker 4: When those towers went down, pretty much all TV channels
- 1:47Speaker 4: were off the air. People were dependent on radio as
- 1:50Speaker 4: they've been enduring natural emergencies and blackouts. But I remember
- 1:55Speaker 4: all the misinformation, the rumors about that Flight 93 and
- 1:59Speaker 4: where it was headed, and it crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
- 2:04Speaker 4: But it was targeting the Capitol building. So they would
- 2:08Speaker 4: have hit the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the
- 2:11Speaker 4: Capitol building. How, as a journalist, did you handle all
- 2:15Speaker 4: those conspiracies when there was really no way to know
- 2:19Speaker 4: what was going on?
- 2:21Speaker 2: Well, hey, Curtis, it's good to hear your voice. Good
- 2:23Speaker 2: to talk to you. I have to tell you, I.
- 2:25Speaker 3: Do remember, and it was less rumors and misinformation and
- 2:30Speaker 3: more like things were coming out. So, for example, they
- 2:33Speaker 3: evacuated the Capitol. They evacuated areas around the White House
- 2:36Speaker 3: because they had heard a plane was still in the
- 2:39Speaker 3: air that they were not in contact with. That was
- 2:42Speaker 3: Flight 93. Didn't really know the details about it. All
- 2:44Speaker 3: we knew is that they were evacuating places. And those
- 2:47Speaker 3: little bits of information were being delivered because there were
- 2:50Speaker 3: journalists in the Capitol that were evacuated. So that information
- 2:54Speaker 3: made it on the air on radio and TV as
- 2:58Speaker 3: we were doing seat-of-the-pants radio. I remember, and I was
- 3:02Speaker 3: just at the museum last week with my son. And
- 3:05Speaker 3: this reminded me, on the Today Show, they didn't even
- 3:09Speaker 3: know the plane had hit the Pentagon yet, but they
- 3:11Speaker 3: were told by the producer, go to Jim Miklaszewski, the
- 3:15Speaker 3: Pentagon reporter.
- 3:16Speaker 2: He's got something to report. And Mick comes on the
- 3:18Speaker 2: air and says, we just felt something. It was live
- 3:23Speaker 2: action horror terror unfolding before our eyes. And it was
- 3:30Speaker 2: an amazing day.
- 3:31Speaker 3: And look, the first responders are the real heroes there
- 3:33Speaker 3: and the people who weren't even uniformed, civilians that went
- 3:36Speaker 3: into the building in a.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Selfless act, but also the broadcasters that day.
- 3:41Speaker 3: I do believe that the people who ran to the
- 3:44Speaker 3: trouble to bring that information were heroes in.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Their own right as well.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Let's stay on that day for a second because you're
- 3:51Speaker 1: overseeing news coverage. And as you just pointed out, information
- 3:55Speaker 1: is coming at you fast and furious that you have
- 3:58Speaker 1: to deal with and you have to respond to. Take
- 4:01Speaker 1: us through the day if you can.
- 4:04Speaker 3: So, Larry, at that point, I was a national radio correspondent.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Curtis probably remembers it, ABC News. So I was a
- 4:12Speaker 3: reporter that day, and my day was, everybody in New
- 4:17Speaker 3: York probably forgets now, it was primary day. It was
- 4:21Speaker 3: election day. So as a reporter, I was sleeping in.
- 4:23Speaker 3: And I was running into the city late. So that
- 4:26Speaker 3: probably saved me from being, you know, in the midst
- 4:29Speaker 3: of the horror that quickly.
- 4:32Speaker 2: But when I heard.
- 4:33Speaker 3: The plane hit the tower, I knew that something was
- 4:36Speaker 3: going on and I knew I had to get in
- 4:37Speaker 3: the city. And my morning was spent struggling to try
- 4:41Speaker 3: and find a way to get into Manhattan when it
- 4:43Speaker 3: was closed down.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Every highway was shut down. You couldn't get on by water.
- 4:46Speaker 2: And I ended up.
- 4:49Speaker 3: finding some sort of strategy with my wife and getting
- 4:51Speaker 3: her to get me a bicycle and a helmet and, uh,
- 4:55Speaker 3: meeting up here near Rockland County and taking the Tappan
- 4:58Speaker 3: Zee bridge and getting to the Bronx and riding a
- 5:00Speaker 3: bicycle into Manhattan, uh, to be there.
- 5:03Speaker 2: And you're right.
- 5:04Speaker 3: Managing that kind of chaos, um, is, um, there's no,
- 5:09Speaker 3: there's no game plan. You've got to really sort of
- 5:12Speaker 3: go by instinct. And, uh, what was really troubling is
- 5:16Speaker 3: that we lost contact with a lot of our colleagues
- 5:19Speaker 3: and friends when the towers came down. And no one
- 5:23Speaker 3: knew the fate of many people. At WCBS, there was
- 5:26Speaker 3: a well-known reporter, Mary Gay Taylor, and the towers came down.
- 5:30Speaker 3: She was saved because somebody grabbed her and threw her
- 5:32Speaker 3: underneath a vehicle that saved the two of them from
- 5:36Speaker 3: getting hit by the debris.
- 5:37Speaker 2: But nobody had heard from her for quite some time.
- 5:41Speaker 2: And then about an hour later, they heard her voice
- 5:44Speaker 2: and everybody was relieved. But that is a story that's.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Told 10,000 times over by people who were looking for
- 5:51Speaker 3: loved ones when they saw that horror happen on TV.
- 5:54Speaker 4: You know, Tim, journalists get vilified often. But on that day,
- 5:59Speaker 4: we were so dependent on you and others to get
- 6:01Speaker 4: us the information that we couldn't get for ourselves. what's
- 6:05Speaker 4: the lesson to be learned about the role that journalists
- 6:09Speaker 4: play in our day-to-day lives from that event?
- 6:13Speaker 3: Well, I love the question, Curtis, and thank you. And
- 6:15Speaker 3: I think that, you know, you know, the answer is that,
- 6:18Speaker 3: you know, facts matter. Uh, and so you report what's
- 6:21Speaker 3: in front of you and that'll never change. And I mean,
- 6:24Speaker 3: that day obviously taught us that, um, you know, you
- 6:27Speaker 3: really can, can report on what you see in front
- 6:30Speaker 3: of you. And this idea of, uh, you know, rumors
- 6:33Speaker 3: and misinformation, that stuff needs to be vetted. You can't
- 6:36Speaker 3: report on things like that. And now there's so much information,
- 6:40Speaker 3: like a fire hose of information, you know, headed our way.
- 6:43Speaker 3: We've got to really teach the next generation of news
- 6:46Speaker 3: consumers and journalists, for that matter, to think critically about
- 6:50Speaker 3: the information in front of them before disseminating.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Before you push share.
- 6:54Speaker 3: On that, you know, on your Instagram post or on
- 6:57Speaker 3: your feed, you really need to be confident that that
- 7:00Speaker 3: information that you're sharing is accurate. And that's the real
- 7:05Speaker 3: lesson that we all need to take from that.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Well, very well said. Tim Scheld, longtime New York radio
- 7:12Speaker 1: news reporter, WORLM alum, News Radio 88. He ran the
- 7:17Speaker 1: newsroom there for two decades. And his book is My
- 7:21Speaker 1: Front Row Seat, A Newsman's Journey. Thank you so much
- 7:25Speaker 1: for sharing all that with us, Tim.