Latest / Scam Goddess / Let Kawhai Get Paid and Identity Theft was Easy in the 70s w/ Miles Gray
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Scam, Come.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Rob from scam, Come rob from Scam Goddess WS Pop
- 0:20Speaker 2: and Congregation. It is your girl, Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess,
- 0:24Speaker 2: back with the podcast all about robbery, fraud and those
- 0:27Speaker 2: who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them.
- 0:30Speaker 2: One thing for sure is that we likely will laugh
- 0:32Speaker 2: at them, but never at the victims.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Okay, yes, y'all, I'm very excited, elated, thrilled.
- 0:39Speaker 2: This is a landmark episode. I don't even know if
- 0:41Speaker 2: y'all are gonna be able to tell. You'll be able
- 0:43Speaker 2: to tell when I tell y'all for real, but I
- 0:45Speaker 2: am now at iHeartRadio, my home Originally. If you're an
- 0:51Speaker 2: og TDZ Daily Seyitgeist fan, you know I used to
- 0:53Speaker 2: be up in their like swimwear honey back in the
- 0:57Speaker 2: twenty one or the twenty and then it was a
- 0:59Speaker 2: one in front of it twenty teens. Yes, but now
- 1:02Speaker 2: I'm so graace to have y'all give it up. Get
- 1:05Speaker 2: up out your seat, park your car, stand out in
- 1:08Speaker 2: the street. Okay, it's that serious. I have the man,
- 1:12Speaker 2: my one of my podcast godfathers, who literally gave me
- 1:16Speaker 2: the name Scam Goddess. On an episode of the Daily
- 1:18Speaker 2: Zeit Guys on the show. He is an official member
- 1:22Speaker 2: of the Christina Aguilera poss.
- 1:24Speaker 3: He's currently the number one Arsenal fan period.
- 1:27Speaker 2: He's the host of The Daily Zeit Guys and for
- 1:30Speaker 2: Twenty Day Fiance Please give it Up for Miles gram Mine.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Thank you, I humble myself. I bow prostrate before you
- 1:39Speaker 4: scam got prostraight? Yeah, yeah, that's that's the formal term.
- 1:43Speaker 4: Now I they say prostate prostraight.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Oh, I stand before you for the prostate exam.
- 1:49Speaker 4: No, thank you for having me. I didn't realize you
- 1:52Speaker 4: were having me on the first episode. So that feels
- 1:55Speaker 4: very appropriate. And I think we've always said, look, we
- 1:59Speaker 4: messed up. We didn't get you the first time.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Gotcha. Sorry for two thousand four.
- 2:04Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but now I'm just I'm just so happy that,
- 2:09Speaker 5: uh we get to be label mates, you know, yes,
- 2:13Speaker 5: and kick it off like this.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Death records for life.
- 2:16Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, no, literally for.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Life, because I heart I kill you if you leave.
- 2:20Speaker 4: That's true, that's true.
- 2:22Speaker 3: So we there.
- 2:23Speaker 4: No, I mean, then you don't need to send that
- 2:24Speaker 4: through standards and practices. They will, they know that's no.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Yeah, they know it's one of the standards and one
- 2:29Speaker 2: of the practices.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Yes, that's what we got the whole you know what
- 2:32Speaker 3: I mean.
- 2:32Speaker 4: It took one of my pet turtles.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Oh yeah, slow poke, you see him again.
- 2:37Speaker 4: No, And I like to believe that he might have
- 2:40Speaker 4: his own show somewhere.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Okay, I hope we're not up there with Franklin. I'm
- 2:44Speaker 2: assumming Franklin past by now because he was one hundred
- 2:46Speaker 2: when I was kh Yeah, he's probably gone. Yeah yeah,
- 2:50Speaker 2: So Myles on this podcast, we love to talk about scams,
- 2:53Speaker 2: fried cons, and we love a little warm up. So
- 2:56Speaker 2: I want to get sure opinions about a few different topics,
- 2:59Speaker 2: and you let me know if you think it's a scam,
- 3:01Speaker 2: a scheme, or a real thing. So a scam is
- 3:04Speaker 2: something that we under no circumstances should.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Be legal, is legal, or or is illegal what we happen.
- 3:10Speaker 3: It's a full on scam.
- 3:11Speaker 2: We know that a scheme is something that feels scammy,
- 3:13Speaker 2: but you know it is protected by the law, or
- 3:17Speaker 2: you know it isn't protected by the law, but somehow
- 3:19Speaker 2: it's just a practice that keeps happening. And then the
- 3:23Speaker 2: real thing is something that is a legitimate pillar of society,
- 3:26Speaker 2: like a rule that we need to follow or or
- 3:28Speaker 2: or something that helps us in our lives. Okay, okay,
- 3:32Speaker 2: So my first question bring Miles Gray, Christina aguileras posse,
- 3:37Speaker 2: which wait, I.
- 3:38Speaker 4: Don they even come up.
- 3:43Speaker 3: What have you been doing with your sagular abile recently?
- 3:46Speaker 4: Nothing recently. I have not seen that person since the
- 3:49Speaker 4: Year of Our Lord two thousand and six or seven.
- 3:52Speaker 2: But the fact that you said recently, I don't know,
- 3:54Speaker 2: Miles is full of lore. Like we could honestly just
- 3:55Speaker 2: do a whole episode.
- 3:59Speaker 4: I am like a Forest Gump type figure. I have
- 4:02Speaker 4: realized if I put it all on paper. Yeah, a
- 4:04Speaker 4: lot of very weird. I was just talking to I
- 4:05Speaker 4: was telling somebody about how I invited Mark Jacobs to
- 4:07Speaker 4: my twenty second birthday party. I love that because I
- 4:10Speaker 4: met him at a party with Christiana Aguilar. Now I
- 4:13Speaker 4: had access to people back then.
- 4:15Speaker 3: You was really out here. You're still out here, and
- 4:17Speaker 3: I love that.
- 4:18Speaker 4: Out here and I'm still forty one, you know what
- 4:19Speaker 4: I mean? Period, doing it, doing it.
- 4:22Speaker 3: Doing it, honey.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Okay, So scam scheme a real thing. First one of
- 4:27Speaker 2: holiday sales. Do we think that these are like? So,
- 4:31Speaker 2: for instance, like the fourth of July, you know, like
- 4:34Speaker 2: they have the I remember when I was a kid,
- 4:35Speaker 2: my auntie Alexis would always buy me a fourth of
- 4:39Speaker 2: July T shirt because you don't know, fourth of July,
- 4:40Speaker 2: c that's my birthday. So she would always give me
- 4:43Speaker 2: a T shirt on sale at Old Navy, you know,
- 4:44Speaker 2: like they used to have like little blowout sales, like
- 4:47Speaker 2: all the holidays, I mean obviously like Friday, like yeah.
- 4:49Speaker 4: All these Memorial Day, Easter whatever, yeah, which the.
- 4:53Speaker 2: World I always felt tacking to me, like are we
- 4:55Speaker 2: celebrating like the ours who yeah, who had passed away
- 4:58Speaker 2: giving their lives up for our country. And we're like
- 5:01Speaker 2: and we got a sad ye no, yo, husband didn't
- 5:04Speaker 2: come back. But don't you need a frame for that
- 5:07Speaker 2: American flag?
- 5:08Speaker 4: They got it for to none and not right exactly.
- 5:10Speaker 4: And for all the added labor you have from being
- 5:13Speaker 4: the only parent in a household due to the war,
- 5:16Speaker 4: why not get a deep discount on this washing machine? Right?
- 5:19Speaker 4: You know?
- 5:19Speaker 2: God Dice is a sale for all doing work to
- 5:22Speaker 2: bereave families.
- 5:24Speaker 3: So what do we do it?
- 5:25Speaker 4: And look and look that Joe could have gone anywhere.
- 5:28Speaker 4: But for me, realistically, I believe that it is a
- 5:34Speaker 4: scam it's actually a scheme for going to be real
- 5:37Speaker 4: like because it's all just it's all language. But and
- 5:39Speaker 4: honestly it's a scam, like they're just selling things at
- 5:41Speaker 4: a price that still they are still able to profit from.
- 5:44Speaker 4: So I was like, why isn't this the price all
- 5:46Speaker 4: the time?
- 5:47Speaker 2: Yes, And a lot of people were pointing out in
- 5:50Speaker 2: recent Black Fridays over the years, because we know, Black
- 5:52Speaker 2: Friday ain't black nowhere.
- 5:53Speaker 4: I don't know what she is all Friday.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Right, she's not giving black. I don't ever go where. Okay,
- 6:01Speaker 3: it's giving Red Friday because we're in the red.
- 6:03Speaker 2: My big account is still in the red when we're
- 6:05Speaker 2: shopping now, like what's happening? And some people have gone
- 6:08Speaker 2: into stores and realized that employees have put like sales
- 6:11Speaker 2: tickers stickers over the original price, and some of those
- 6:14Speaker 2: Black Friday sales stickers are actually more expensive than the
- 6:19Speaker 2: price was before the Black Friday sale.
- 6:21Speaker 3: So I think a lot of stores have started.
- 6:23Speaker 2: To flip over, just like the airlines did when Spirit
- 6:26Speaker 2: pulled up and all the locality like low fare, you know,
- 6:29Speaker 2: discount airlines, and they started charging for basic amendmenties that
- 6:32Speaker 2: we used to get don't just switch over to doing
- 6:34Speaker 2: that too. And I've talked about that on an episode,
- 6:36Speaker 2: and I think the stores might be doing that too,
- 6:37Speaker 2: where it's like, we know we're gonna have high amount
- 6:40Speaker 2: of foot traffic because people come in expecting a deal,
- 6:42Speaker 2: so instead of giving them a deal, we might as
- 6:45Speaker 2: well just run it up since we go have a
- 6:47Speaker 2: store full of people.
- 6:48Speaker 4: Yes, And that's why people need to be This is
- 6:50Speaker 4: where you have to be. Like how like I was
- 6:53Speaker 4: when as a teenager and I wanted something, It's like
- 6:55Speaker 4: you had to obsess about some different months because you
- 6:57Speaker 4: didn't have the money for it, and you just obsessed
- 6:59Speaker 4: about the price, so you knew when something was actually priced.
- 7:03Speaker 4: You're like, no, that is actually the best price for
- 7:06Speaker 4: this insert consumer good here. Yeah. And if you don't
- 7:09Speaker 4: know that, yeah, you're gonna walk into it and you're like, no,
- 7:11Speaker 4: this shit is it was? It was this price like
- 7:14Speaker 4: literally three weeks ago.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Like what happened to the dad lore? I remember dads
- 7:18Speaker 2: used to shop for TVs like they were shopping for cars.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, like before the price went down, Astron cleave
- 7:24Speaker 2: TV's and they became more regular. You know, I remember,
- 7:27Speaker 2: you know, my dad being on the website like, oh
- 7:29Speaker 2: they got this new Samsung drop.
- 7:31Speaker 4: Like, ooh it's the seven twenty p HD. Wow that's
- 7:36Speaker 4: a good number. I didn't fit this this new HD
- 7:38Speaker 4: thing I just heard. Yeah, it really was. I remember
- 7:40Speaker 4: the first time I thought I could afford a TV
- 7:43Speaker 4: that was humbling. It was like probably two thousand and
- 7:47Speaker 4: seven and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get a
- 7:48Speaker 4: fucking flat screen TV. And then they did a credit
- 7:51Speaker 4: check and I was like, do we have to do all?
- 7:53Speaker 4: This isn't that much? How much is it for this one?
- 7:57Speaker 4: And yeah, it's crazy how much how much cheaper TV
- 8:00Speaker 4: are now?
- 8:00Speaker 3: Right they really are?
- 8:01Speaker 2: Since you know, when we farmed out all the labor
- 8:04Speaker 2: and ruined our country's infrastructure with many industries, things came
- 8:08Speaker 2: a lot cheaper.
- 8:09Speaker 4: Yeah, look that's the trade off. That's the true. You
- 8:11Speaker 4: don't have health care, but you can have you have
- 8:14Speaker 4: a TV the size of your goiter, right.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Like, who needs clean air? Baby?
- 8:18Speaker 2: We gotta love island on and on.
- 8:22Speaker 4: Pretend you're breathing that air from the TV.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Yes, pretend you're breathing that Fiji air.
- 8:25Speaker 4: That's all we can do. And you just get an
- 8:27Speaker 4: old spice thing of Fiji and then he.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Sniffed that, and you know they're obviously we're talking right
- 8:34Speaker 2: now about stores and physical things like that, but it's
- 8:37Speaker 2: also happening on the internet. You know, there's fake social
- 8:40Speaker 2: media ads, there's non delivery schemes where you purchase an item,
- 8:44Speaker 2: they take your money, but the product never arrives. Like
- 8:47Speaker 2: I always tell you, if it's a website that you
- 8:48Speaker 2: ain't never heard of, some that co some some that wish,
- 8:52Speaker 2: you really have to be careful and maybe go on
- 8:54Speaker 2: a few threads and see if you can find other
- 8:56Speaker 2: people who purchased from there before, because there's always a
- 8:58Speaker 2: paper trail. Even if you don't find it on their
- 9:00Speaker 2: website because they scrubbing it, you're not gonna find them.
- 9:02Speaker 2: The Better Business Bureau, which I already told you I
- 9:04Speaker 2: was a scam.
- 9:05Speaker 3: They don't do nothing.
- 9:05Speaker 2: They literally have businesses pay them to take down negative reviews.
- 9:09Speaker 2: That's how they make money.
- 9:10Speaker 4: You ain't doing nothing telling bb oh, we're not saying
- 9:12Speaker 4: the business will be better. No, we're making ship better
- 9:15Speaker 4: for the businesses that pay us. Yeah.
- 9:17Speaker 3: The Better Business Bureau is your businesses, your strong army.
- 9:22Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah to the consumer, Oh, you better mind your
- 9:25Speaker 4: own business.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Yeah, we never said better because no, listen, look at
- 9:30Speaker 2: the BBB. Yeah right, bitch, get out of here, and
- 9:34Speaker 2: you better get out of here right now.
- 9:35Speaker 3: That's the last beat.
- 9:36Speaker 4: Why do you call me?
- 9:38Speaker 3: That's what better business? Gurrel about? Bit okay, gang gang.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Also, I want to remind y'all that every holiday the
- 9:46Speaker 2: robbery like robbery is a real thing.
- 9:48Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all know that to listen to this podcast.
- 9:51Speaker 4: Robbery is a real thing. Are they people out there
- 9:52Speaker 4: who don't think robbery is a real thing. No, they think.
- 9:55Speaker 3: It's like a stick up and they put your hands.
- 9:57Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's don't leave bags in your car
- 10:01Speaker 2: if you're going into another store and you're in a
- 10:03Speaker 2: public parking lot. My mom always said, don't make a
- 10:06Speaker 2: thief out of nobody, which means don't leave anything in
- 10:09Speaker 2: your back seat.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Don't leave in your front seat. Put your ship in
- 10:11Speaker 3: the trunk.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Because if you got a car full of stuff and
- 10:14Speaker 2: you're shopping around, you know, in these days with the economy,
- 10:17Speaker 2: you be trying to throw a cookout one of the
- 10:18Speaker 2: few that's go happen this summer, because they're trying to
- 10:20Speaker 2: do that without crashing it, right, Oscar Meyer.
- 10:27Speaker 3: Right, got a first name. That's that window.
- 10:32Speaker 2: It's always CR and your cr Yeah exactly, it's s
- 10:36Speaker 2: h a r ds of glass so you're passenger seat.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Okay, give me the fucking hot dog.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I've had my car broken into, and the saddest part
- 10:45Speaker 2: was they didn't steal nothing, which made me feel very unworthy.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Ah had the markings twice. The other time it was unlocked,
- 10:50Speaker 2: but they just went in and they stole. Like, you know,
- 10:51Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a girl's girl, and it's gonna be out.
- 10:53Speaker 2: I'm gonna have my tampons in my glove compartment, with
- 10:56Speaker 2: my deodorant, my you know, extra lip gloss liner.
- 10:59Speaker 3: You never know where the girl's gonna take core today.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Especially in LA. You will not be kind lacking.
- 11:04Speaker 2: They took my toothbrush, my the owner rush. They took
- 11:10Speaker 2: all the few. But tell me this, Miles, why did
- 11:13Speaker 2: they leave me some armor oil wipes? I said, But
- 11:15Speaker 2: it's not you trying to tell me my car.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Dirty, like.
- 11:19Speaker 4: I honestly, I don't even know if it's that. I
- 11:20Speaker 4: think it was a stalker who was like, I want
- 11:23Speaker 4: her toothbrush.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Okay, you know I've had stalkers and this is in
- 11:26Speaker 2: a building where I actually had to move from.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Okay, never mind, never mind, never mind that got too close.
- 11:31Speaker 2: No, but I think it was was on the house
- 11:34Speaker 2: because they didn't take anything else. They took necessities, so
- 11:38Speaker 2: I feel bad about it. Break my window, they opened
- 11:41Speaker 2: the door. They had the courtesy to just I guess
- 11:43Speaker 2: I left the bitch on locks. I said, you know what,
- 11:45Speaker 2: that's fine. I did use some of them wipes on
- 11:47Speaker 2: my seats. I was like, you know what, they might
- 11:48Speaker 2: have a point, so sometimes Roberts can be a blessing.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Maybe.
- 11:52Speaker 4: Well yeah, then they painted they said, carved wash me
- 11:54Speaker 4: from the dirt film on the side of your door.
- 11:58Speaker 3: Robbing me and shady me is diabolical, but honestly I
- 12:00Speaker 3: respect it.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Shaded right scam coh next scam scheme or real thing?
- 12:12Speaker 2: AI photos on restaurant menus.
- 12:16Speaker 4: Oh fuck that that is. I mean, that's absolute scam.
- 12:21Speaker 4: That's a scam. However, okay, we got it. However, in here,
- 12:26Speaker 4: there's there's something I like about people getting tricked by
- 12:30Speaker 4: AI because this shit is so obvious. A lot of
- 12:32Speaker 4: the time you look at it and you're like, come
- 12:34Speaker 4: to our new barbecue wrestaurant. Like, I've never seen a
- 12:36Speaker 4: rib with a like a cross section of ribs in
- 12:39Speaker 4: it that looks like a crucifix. Like if you really
- 12:41Speaker 4: look at like this AI photo fucking sucks and people
- 12:43Speaker 4: are like this place didn't even exist, right, I do
- 12:47Speaker 4: like there's something. I think AI as a technology is terrible,
- 12:51Speaker 4: and obviously the environmental costs aside. I love how it's
- 12:55Speaker 4: super charged scammers though, because it allowed it gives them
- 12:58Speaker 4: this like air of legitimacy when you like, this is
- 13:00Speaker 4: our menu, these are my product photos. This is not real.
- 13:05Speaker 2: So and then people are going to restaurants and ordering
- 13:10Speaker 2: things that they saw on the AI menu. And I
- 13:12Speaker 2: will send this to Iro new producer Joe l but
- 13:14Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you right now, Miles.
- 13:16Speaker 3: Just like on my phone.
- 13:17Speaker 4: It's like what you saw on the menu versus.
- 13:20Speaker 3: Yeah, versus what you got. And it's alarming and.
- 13:25Speaker 4: I can't wait to see this, Okay.
- 13:27Speaker 3: People are trying to use it everywhere.
- 13:28Speaker 2: I'm seeing people making excuses for their homemade jewelry that
- 13:31Speaker 2: they're selling, but they're using AI for the photos of
- 13:33Speaker 2: the jewelry, And I'm like, why can't you just take
- 13:35Speaker 2: a picture on your phone? We all are walking around
- 13:37Speaker 2: with a decent size or just a grade camera, Like,
- 13:40Speaker 2: what do you mean you're using AI?
- 13:41Speaker 3: Also, if you're selling me a product, I want to
- 13:44Speaker 3: look at.
- 13:44Speaker 4: The real thing, not you, not your wish list version
- 13:48Speaker 4: of how you if you had your shit together, how
- 13:51Speaker 4: this thing would look.
- 13:52Speaker 3: No, not at all.
- 13:53Speaker 2: And so here I'm gonna show you this one, myles.
- 13:55Speaker 2: So this is the AI photo of what looks.
- 13:57Speaker 4: To be a.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Bed of sweet potato, sweet potato puadeka. Yeah.
- 14:03Speaker 2: And then we've got one of those edible flowers. I
- 14:05Speaker 2: forget the name of this flower, but I used to
- 14:07Speaker 2: work with it all the time.
- 14:08Speaker 4: Ever, it's in every like cocktail bar ever cocks out.
- 14:11Speaker 2: She had a moment, she had a moment in twenty
- 14:14Speaker 2: seventeen where you could not miss.
- 14:16Speaker 4: Her twenty everybody that was definitely even before. Yeah, I
- 14:19Speaker 4: definitely remember that. I remember the first time I thought,
- 14:21Speaker 4: I was like, what the fuck is wow? And at
- 14:23Speaker 4: the time I was like this, this cocktail's eleven dollars.
- 14:26Speaker 3: I've ate so many of them.
- 14:28Speaker 4: Are they good? Or just like for the fucking just
- 14:31Speaker 4: because just because you could, You're like, fuck it, because
- 14:33Speaker 4: I can, I'll eat.
- 14:34Speaker 2: This edible Yes, because also like I'm a food snob
- 14:36Speaker 2: when it comes to everything on the plate should be edible, Like.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Really is that?
- 14:41Speaker 2: Yeah, don't put on the core on my plate. Everything
- 14:42Speaker 2: should be edible, and it s'uld still.
- 14:43Speaker 4: Be Okay, that makes sense. I'm trying to think of,
- 14:45Speaker 4: like what wouldn't be on there? I thought in your mind,
- 14:47Speaker 4: you're like, man that let me get down with this plate.
- 14:49Speaker 4: You're like.
- 14:51Speaker 3: I used to put like a spring of roseberry on it.
- 14:53Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
- 14:54Speaker 3: I can't eat no spree.
- 14:55Speaker 4: I don't like parsonally anyway, So go on.
- 14:57Speaker 3: So yeah, partly partially devastated.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Black comunity actually moved on, though I'm seeing less and
- 15:01Speaker 2: less green lakes on mat yeah, and on devil dings.
- 15:07Speaker 2: So black people, we let that strangle that Parsley had
- 15:09Speaker 2: on us go. Now here's what it actually looks like
- 15:12Speaker 2: at the restaurant. Yeah, yeah, because you're around, look at
- 15:19Speaker 2: that looks terribly We're gonna.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Put it on the page, y'all.
- 15:22Speaker 4: We are the marshmallow topping.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Why are there marshmallows on ass? And it looks like
- 15:29Speaker 2: they browned some of them maybe, but not all of them.
- 15:32Speaker 2: And then there's like, you.
- 15:33Speaker 4: Know what they were doing. They were using they were
- 15:35Speaker 4: using a fucking lighter to try and brown the top.
- 15:38Speaker 4: I don't know what that that looks like. I don't
- 15:42Speaker 4: even know.
- 15:42Speaker 2: What part of it is is that because this obviously
- 15:46Speaker 2: this is the greens and now it gonna stuck the
- 15:48Speaker 2: flower in the greens, the marshmallow yams.
- 15:50Speaker 4: Which is the story with this place? Where is this
- 15:52Speaker 4: place at? You know this.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Place is in Texas or Texas. This isn't Arlington. This
- 15:59Speaker 2: is my hometown. And this girl said she was doing
- 16:03Speaker 2: a TikTok experience on her review there, and that's what
- 16:06Speaker 2: she saw online and that's what she actually got in person.
- 16:08Speaker 2: I personally don't go to a lot of restaurants that
- 16:11Speaker 2: have this don't sound so snoppy, but don't go to
- 16:12Speaker 2: a lot of restaurants that have like pictures of food
- 16:14Speaker 2: on the menu at all.
- 16:16Speaker 4: But listen sometimes, Lacy.
- 16:19Speaker 3: No, but listen.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Sometimes we be outside and you know, factory or whatever. Yeah, cheesecake.
- 16:28Speaker 2: I want extra brown bread and it's jill teeth. You
- 16:30Speaker 2: better not bring me none of that crunchy white I
- 16:32Speaker 2: want all brown bread.
- 16:33Speaker 3: You know, we like bring it for the white people too.
- 16:35Speaker 3: Everybody likes the brown bread.
- 16:36Speaker 4: Come on, let me see you eat it.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Yes, it's delicious.
- 16:40Speaker 2: One time they were selling it. I think they do
- 16:41Speaker 2: still sell it at a store called Raupse here in LA.
- 16:43Speaker 4: But I went in they had It's so funny. I
- 16:45Speaker 4: love you. You have such a large audience that you don't
- 16:48Speaker 4: get too regional about saying the largest supermarket chain in LA.
- 16:53Speaker 4: There's a store called Ralph's. You might know it as
- 16:56Speaker 4: Kroger Albertson's. That's just how how the Kroger brand manifests
- 17:02Speaker 4: itself in Los Angeles is called Ralphs.
- 17:04Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, I know it as Algae.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Y'all might got a Marxist Spencer's, but they still close.
- 17:09Speaker 3: That's closer to Target.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Hey UK, yeah, I know, I know.
- 17:14Speaker 2: So right period period, but yes, so I wouldn't know
- 17:21Speaker 2: they had cheesecake factory bred that you your house. That
- 17:24Speaker 2: was during COVID. That was a rough time for me.
- 17:26Speaker 2: I was warming up cheesecake factory bread in my home.
- 17:29Speaker 2: But it is comforting.
- 17:30Speaker 4: Yeah, you need that, you need that. I was buying
- 17:32Speaker 4: ship from Subway, like they were giving away bulk. You
- 17:35Speaker 4: could buy bulk ingredients from Subway. I was like yeah yeah,
- 17:41Speaker 4: and cookies were like you get like seventy of them
- 17:43Speaker 4: for three bucks. It was crazy, that's wild.
- 17:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:46Speaker 2: So I don't want to see an AI photo of
- 17:48Speaker 2: something and not come out looking like the photo.
- 17:51Speaker 3: I don't see anything, but like, just take a picture
- 17:54Speaker 3: of the food.
- 17:54Speaker 2: And if you can't do that, then just give us
- 17:56Speaker 2: a great description of what's in the dish and don't
- 17:58Speaker 2: put a photo on your menu.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Nobody's when the don't see a picture.
- 18:01Speaker 4: The mushroom topping on those sweet potatoes was diabolical. The
- 18:06Speaker 4: quote unquote char It looked like someone took the lighter
- 18:08Speaker 4: supposed to be marshmallows. Oh yeah, what did I say?
- 18:11Speaker 4: What I call mushroom? But the marshmallow topping, it looks
- 18:16Speaker 4: like rather than it being like properly you know, broiled
- 18:20Speaker 4: or something, they had a lighter and they're like get in.
- 18:23Speaker 4: They're like, shit's hot, it's too hot. I can only
- 18:25Speaker 4: get a couple of them, ah like, and they pulled
- 18:27Speaker 4: their hand away.
- 18:28Speaker 3: They charged a cup. This is somebody's lighter.
- 18:30Speaker 2: They was about to go on a smoke break and
- 18:31Speaker 2: it was like, hey, Martinez, we toast these marshmallows.
- 18:35Speaker 4: You know how much they charge for that ship.
- 18:37Speaker 3: Way too much.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Oh and these are the ribs, this black pile in
- 18:40Speaker 2: the corner, my lamb chop.
- 18:44Speaker 3: It looks like they made my girl crispy.
- 18:46Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like a maple syrup candy or something
- 18:49Speaker 4: like something some old people ship where they're like, it's
- 18:52Speaker 4: like maple syrup candy.
- 18:54Speaker 3: It's like somebody who never cleans out the bottom of
- 18:56Speaker 3: their air fryer.
- 18:57Speaker 4: And then yeah, and then they just formed that yeah,
- 19:01Speaker 4: and they're like, look, I can make it shape into
- 19:03Speaker 4: a lamb chop.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Right, y'all, clean up about your air fryer. That's why
- 19:06Speaker 2: I'm smoking and smells weird. This isn't from personal experience.
- 19:11Speaker 4: No, no, no, not at all.
- 19:12Speaker 3: I got a little smoking one day.
- 19:15Speaker 4: I was like, what's going on?
- 19:16Speaker 3: Crumbs down there?
- 19:17Speaker 4: He kept pretty visual with that description, So I'm gonna
- 19:20Speaker 4: guess I.
- 19:21Speaker 3: Didn't look like that.
- 19:22Speaker 4: Okay, you know what.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Anyways, last game scheme or real things sports betting and
- 19:32Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, we had the bookies,
- 19:34Speaker 2: where you know, you had a shady gangstuff who you
- 19:38Speaker 2: would bet with. And now there's online betting where you
- 19:41Speaker 2: can bet on sports games. You can bet on penalties.
- 19:45Speaker 2: You can bet on how long a player is gonna play.
- 19:47Speaker 2: You can bet on the weather, bet on children's games,
- 19:51Speaker 2: you can bet on anything.
- 19:51Speaker 4: Bet on George Santos being at the State of the Union.
- 19:54Speaker 3: You can bet on who's gonna win elections.
- 19:57Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do crazier stuff like love Island. Right
- 20:00Speaker 4: now they're taking Act of Island, Like I got.
- 20:02Speaker 3: A over under own cancy.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Yeah, But what do you think about sports betting in particular.
- 20:08Speaker 4: It's definitely it's one of these vices that have become
- 20:12Speaker 4: so turbo charged in the last few years. That's crazy.
- 20:16Speaker 4: I know a lot. I grew up at around a
- 20:18Speaker 4: lot of people that gambled, so to a certain a
- 20:21Speaker 4: lot of people that do a lot of things. Yes, yes,
- 20:25Speaker 4: gambling was kind of seen as a normal thing. Knew
- 20:28Speaker 4: a lot of people where it turned into degeneracy. And
- 20:32Speaker 4: that's like the super fucked up art right now. It's
- 20:35Speaker 4: basically a scheme. It's like one of these things that
- 20:38Speaker 4: doesn't need more regulation, yes, and like but but but
- 20:43Speaker 4: it's just it's sort of it's like alcohol and like
- 20:45Speaker 4: other things that like these vices that kill people. You
- 20:48Speaker 4: pay enough people in the government and just let it
- 20:51Speaker 4: rip like I mean, it's like everything. It's like the crypto.
- 20:53Speaker 4: There's there's so many forms of like legalized gambling now,
- 20:56Speaker 4: but they're just massed in different ways in its soft market.
- 20:59Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, one hundred percent, and now like with prediction markets.
- 21:02Speaker 4: It's just kind of crazy because I think it also
- 21:04Speaker 4: speaks to like how nihilistic people are about their own future,
- 21:07Speaker 4: where rather than it feeling possible that like you could
- 21:10Speaker 4: go to school, or like you could follow a passion
- 21:12Speaker 4: and have that, you know, render the kinds of things
- 21:15Speaker 4: results that you saw yourself having, like a home or whatever,
- 21:19Speaker 4: that that feels so out of reach that it's easier
- 21:21Speaker 4: to almost be like, fucking man, I'm gonna do this
- 21:23Speaker 4: fucking four game parlay man if this ship hits so
- 21:27Speaker 4: many problems, yeah yeah, yeah, don't kid. Yeah yeah. And
- 21:31Speaker 4: it's crazy because you see a lot of people who
- 21:33Speaker 4: are like, like, how do you think I got this
- 21:35Speaker 4: lambo bro? Because I'm just I'm fucking killing it and
- 21:37Speaker 4: blah blah blah dot com. So yeah, unfortunately, it's a
- 21:41Speaker 4: it's just it's it's like a scheme. It's one of
- 21:43Speaker 4: those things that's just there. Uh yeah, is it? But yeah,
- 21:46Speaker 4: can you can you deny that like what it's doing
- 21:49Speaker 4: to people. Absolutely not.
- 21:51Speaker 2: I would say it's a life ruining scheme and that
- 21:53Speaker 2: it is really borderlighting on scams because some people who
- 21:56Speaker 2: get lucky enough to actually win large sums of money,
- 22:00Speaker 2: those apps will then delay your payment, try to find
- 22:03Speaker 2: the loophole or try to like pay you slowly. Yeah,
- 22:07Speaker 2: Like if you win like a lot of money, they'll
- 22:09Speaker 2: just like give it to you.
- 22:10Speaker 4: They'll find a way, saying right right.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Also, if you've lost a bunch and they can clearly
- 22:15Speaker 2: tell by the algorithm that you probably have an addiction
- 22:19Speaker 2: based on your usage, how often you're checking it, and
- 22:21Speaker 2: how much you're spending. So if that spending stops or
- 22:24Speaker 2: drops off from the usual that they're taking from you,
- 22:26Speaker 2: they'll start sending you coupons or like our little chips,
- 22:31Speaker 2: Like they'll see me like, oh, now you have like
- 22:32Speaker 2: this many free coins you can use on betting to
- 22:35Speaker 2: like lure you back.
- 22:36Speaker 4: Yeah, get the money flowing again. Yeah, So it's wild
- 22:40Speaker 4: to see. Like how like I remember when a lot
- 22:44Speaker 4: of the gambling sites were coming like having like huge
- 22:47Speaker 4: presences in the US, Like all these people in the
- 22:49Speaker 4: UK and Australia. They're like, get ready for what this
- 22:53Speaker 4: thing is about to do, because pretty soon everything is
- 22:55Speaker 4: going to be wall to wall gambling stuff.
- 22:58Speaker 2: Yeah, you can gamble on anything now. And I think
- 23:02Speaker 2: the rise of is one the smartphone and it being accessible.
- 23:05Speaker 2: We don't have to go to Vegas, we don't have
- 23:07Speaker 2: to call a shady booker anymore. You can just download
- 23:09Speaker 2: an app on your phone. And also I think it
- 23:12Speaker 2: speaks to the desperation of people in society right now.
- 23:15Speaker 2: Is that, like, because we can't make money in an
- 23:18Speaker 2: honest way that supports I don't want to just survive.
- 23:21Speaker 2: I don't want a living wage. I want a thriving rage. Okay,
- 23:24Speaker 2: I want to be able to go on vacation, have children.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Like what you mean, I gotta we find to get
- 23:30Speaker 2: enough money to survive, right, Like you know, like it
- 23:33Speaker 2: should be to thrive.
- 23:35Speaker 3: If you're working job, that job is necessary. All jobs
- 23:37Speaker 3: are necessary.
- 23:38Speaker 2: And even if you think your job is more important
- 23:39Speaker 2: than the others, I'm pretty sure you can't do your
- 23:41Speaker 2: job without a lot of the people that you look
- 23:42Speaker 2: down on, the people who clean, people who do tech,
- 23:45Speaker 2: people who do And I'm not saying that's a job
- 23:47Speaker 2: that people look down. But any job that helps you
- 23:49Speaker 2: function in your job is an important job, so they
- 23:52Speaker 2: should all be paid fairly. But it's I think because
- 23:56Speaker 2: of that, people are like, fuck it, I'm gonna just
- 23:57Speaker 2: gamble and see if i can win.
- 23:58Speaker 3: Big quickly, or I'm become an influencer.
- 24:01Speaker 2: I saw a woman on TikTok yesterday who had made
- 24:03Speaker 2: a viral TikTok about working in tech and being the
- 24:06Speaker 2: manager and then figuring out that she realized that people
- 24:09Speaker 2: were going to be off boarded aka fired if she
- 24:11Speaker 2: had to start like working on their computers or like
- 24:14Speaker 2: shutting down their addresses and emails or things like that,
- 24:17Speaker 2: or their access to company stuff, and so they would
- 24:19Speaker 2: never tell her why she was doing it. She started
- 24:21Speaker 2: to realize they were got fired. So there was this one
- 24:22Speaker 2: black woman who she really liked, and she's black as well.
- 24:24Speaker 2: She told the lady like, hey, I just started shutting
- 24:26Speaker 2: that yo shit says, I think they're about to get
- 24:28Speaker 2: you up out of here.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Just wanted to get you a head.
- 24:30Speaker 2: She talks about this on TikTok, which I really need
- 24:32Speaker 2: job to stop doing this. The job eventually finds her
- 24:34Speaker 2: they let her go because the black woman that she
- 24:38Speaker 2: peeped like she told the game too. Then was asking
- 24:40Speaker 2: other people about their salaries because she had just gotten hired,
- 24:44Speaker 2: and I guess was telling people her salary, and so
- 24:47Speaker 2: that's why they fired the black women. That the it
- 24:49Speaker 2: black woman was helping, but she not on Instagram or
- 24:51Speaker 2: TikTok and told everybody and it went viral, and then
- 24:53Speaker 2: that black woman got fired and now she's on TikTok
- 24:55Speaker 2: talking about you know, this is just telling me this
- 24:57Speaker 2: was really what I needed to start my social media career.
- 25:00Speaker 3: I'm going to keep this going.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Girl. It's it's like everybody says that everyone has one
- 25:05Speaker 2: good book in them.
- 25:06Speaker 3: You probably got one viral post. Does that do it for?
- 25:09Speaker 4: There? It is there? It is no. But again, it's
- 25:12Speaker 4: just because everything feels so upside down, Like people don't
- 25:16Speaker 4: even chase achievements, right, it's like just the notoriety because
- 25:21Speaker 4: it is an achievement. It's like, well, I was popping
- 25:24Speaker 4: on Instagram TikTok for like three days. I did that.
- 25:28Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, something happened to you posted in and
- 25:30Speaker 4: that something happened for sure, But like.
- 25:34Speaker 3: If a tree falls in the forest, if I didn't
- 25:36Speaker 3: put it on a gram. Did it make us sound No,
- 25:39Speaker 3: And you're lying because.
- 25:40Speaker 4: You didn't put it, you didn't post it, wasn't you
- 25:43Speaker 4: weren't even in the forest like that. Shut up.
- 25:47Speaker 3: Yeah, you hadn't even got miles to go.
- 25:48Speaker 4: I saw your stories you were you were at Ralphs
- 25:50Speaker 4: buying cheesecake factory bread.
- 25:53Speaker 2: So I think it is like collectically reflecting that too
- 25:55Speaker 2: as it grows in popularity.
- 25:57Speaker 4: But so much nihil, I think that's what it is.
- 25:59Speaker 4: It's just so yeah, like I told that, it's just
- 26:02Speaker 4: one of these vices that people get so into. And
- 26:06Speaker 4: again because like there's also so so much social media
- 26:08Speaker 4: that's also telling people like this is how you should
- 26:11Speaker 4: this is what you should have at this point in
- 26:13Speaker 4: your life, and you live comparatively and then so these
- 26:16Speaker 4: only things that feel like they can help you make
- 26:18Speaker 4: these huge leaps are these like big gambles, like with yeah,
- 26:23Speaker 4: insert any you know, unpredictable form of gambling here.
- 26:29Speaker 2: I'm gonna go scam on this one, because like, at
- 26:32Speaker 2: the end of the day, the house always wins.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Gambling wouldn't exist that the house didn't win, guys.
- 26:36Speaker 2: So yeah, there's just yeah, it's gonna be a good
- 26:38Speaker 2: gambler to know when to leave.
- 26:40Speaker 4: That's and you know I've I used to play a
- 26:43Speaker 4: lot of blackjack, you know, every now and then.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Maybe if you're long time listeners podcast, y'all know I
- 26:47Speaker 2: love me. Some cras are your ships right now, the.
- 26:52Speaker 4: House is gonna win. But there is just I can't
- 26:55Speaker 4: help it. Sometimes I'm like.
- 26:56Speaker 2: There's but I got to go to Vegas to gamble,
- 26:58Speaker 2: and I look away when I've made made my return,
- 27:01Speaker 2: you know, like I play, it's enough money to lose.
- 27:04Speaker 2: I treated like a purchase and then run it up.
- 27:06Speaker 2: And then once I got myself, once the table gets cold,
- 27:08Speaker 2: I'm out. I'm not trying to revive the heat.
- 27:10Speaker 3: I know what's up.
- 27:11Speaker 4: It's a statistic.
- 27:12Speaker 2: But like what I'm saying is like we used to
- 27:14Speaker 2: have to go to a destination or you have to
- 27:16Speaker 2: have shady plugs.
- 27:17Speaker 3: To get involved and gambling.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Now now you just go on the app store and
- 27:20Speaker 2: you can ruin your life, your marriage, mortgage your home,
- 27:23Speaker 2: you know, suspend.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Your kids college fund. You have the comfort of your.
- 27:27Speaker 4: Iphoneces no hand today.
- 27:30Speaker 3: Not those Okay, the clip was lost that daddy ow's me.
- 27:34Speaker 4: And those teeth they got character The car you got less.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very much it. I agree with you, and
- 27:42Speaker 2: it's just very scammy to me. But we're seeing the
- 27:44Speaker 2: rise of it now, even more so because of the accessibility,
- 27:47Speaker 2: also because of the desperation. And again this is my
- 27:50Speaker 2: what once monthly reminder, y'all, if you got a job
- 27:52Speaker 2: that is not an entertainment baby on the weekends, have.
- 27:55Speaker 3: Your fun when you at the job house. I don't
- 27:57Speaker 3: need to see no tiktoks of you.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Okay, grow your business through word of mouth or if
- 28:02Speaker 2: it's a business where you could show off the business,
- 28:04Speaker 2: that's fine. But I don't want to see innocent customers,
- 28:06Speaker 2: pedestrians anywhere in your feet. I don't want to see
- 28:08Speaker 2: you dancing and you know at the hospice center, you know,
- 28:11Speaker 2: like Grandma's gonna go to glory.
- 28:15Speaker 4: Okay, wow, Wow, I'm just saying.
- 28:19Speaker 3: Your job and that's cool. Yeah, Dodor Miami, you're doing
- 28:23Speaker 3: too much.
- 28:24Speaker 2: You could give me up before and after picture like
- 28:25Speaker 2: they used to do back in the day on the
- 28:27Speaker 2: subway in New York.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Okay, I don't need to see on.
- 28:30Speaker 4: People and they beleeve me.
- 28:31Speaker 3: That's where he's like in the operation. What do you
- 28:34Speaker 3: mean you're cutting on me all.
- 28:35Speaker 4: Live content, okay, right.
- 28:40Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the anesthesiologist goes from like you
- 28:42Speaker 2: didn't need breakfast this morning?
- 28:43Speaker 3: Rights, like you didn't need breakfast morning?
- 28:44Speaker 4: Right?
- 28:45Speaker 3: Yeah? And your camera.
- 28:46Speaker 4: Ready, yeah exactly, and then starts hitting like a Brazilian
- 28:49Speaker 4: TikTok dance.
- 28:50Speaker 3: Literally literally okay, all of a sudden, like you never
- 28:54Speaker 3: take me to Bangla? Why is the flag?
- 28:56Speaker 2: While why am I getting put under our music and
- 29:01Speaker 2: operating room?
- 29:02Speaker 4: Going up five, six.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Six, seven, now count backwards from ten while you hit the.
- 29:08Speaker 4: Yea yeah, oh threw the scalpel in the wood. Yeah,
- 29:12Speaker 4: then me get that up, fish that up right. This
- 29:15Speaker 4: is so much like please be for real.
- 29:21Speaker 3: Run all right?
- 29:24Speaker 2: Well that is a perfect segue into historic clutterings today,
- 29:26Speaker 2: because we're gonna be talking a little bit about sports.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Historic clisings is My favorite segment of the podcast is
- 29:31Speaker 2: where I were Gale Miles with the famous Concaper group
- 29:34Speaker 2: of criminals, a collapse of criminals.
- 29:36Speaker 3: We don't know, maybe we love them, maybe we hate them.
- 29:38Speaker 3: We'll see along the way.
- 29:39Speaker 2: And this time it looks like we have a sports compilation.
- 29:42Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk briefly about three little sports scams
- 29:45Speaker 2: that have been in the Zeit Guy, some recent some
- 29:47Speaker 2: I'm older. But we're gonna start this off with the
- 29:50Speaker 2: La clipperst Maybe that's why they were in my head.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Superstar Kawhi Leonard, who signed a secret twenty eight million
- 29:58Speaker 2: dollar endorsement deal with a company he funded by the
- 30:00Speaker 2: team's owner, Steve Balmer, as a way to pay Kawhi
- 30:04Speaker 2: more than he should be allowed to get based on
- 30:06Speaker 2: the NBA salary cap. We know this thanks to a
- 30:09Speaker 2: seven month long investigation by Bablo Terray for his show
- 30:13Speaker 2: Bobloterray finds out and he did find out. Now, Kawhi,
- 30:19Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, a black man getting more money, I'm.
- 30:21Speaker 3: Not really mad right now.
- 30:22Speaker 2: No, I see no issues, I have no qualms, so.
- 30:28Speaker 4: Remember it game. I was like, so, I think, yeah,
- 30:32Speaker 4: the issue is just like that you circum it's just
- 30:34Speaker 4: the rule breaking. I was definitely like, I'm not going
- 30:37Speaker 4: to be mad at Kawhi for being like, get me
- 30:39Speaker 4: more fucking money.
- 30:41Speaker 2: And I know that the rule is essentially there to
- 30:44Speaker 2: make sure that no sports team could just dominate the
- 30:47Speaker 2: league four years and years on end because they pay
- 30:50Speaker 2: the most. Yeah, exactly keeps the game interesting in this respect.
- 30:55Speaker 4: I understand the ABA this was this was that was
- 30:58Speaker 4: a problem. You got so sloppy with.
- 31:00Speaker 3: It because it happens so often. We know they're getting
- 31:04Speaker 3: these deals.
- 31:04Speaker 2: I love that the college students who are very good
- 31:06Speaker 2: at their athletic sport are getting something on the side,
- 31:09Speaker 2: because it's a damn shame that the NCAA is stealing
- 31:11Speaker 2: from those kids because there's such a you know, risk
- 31:15Speaker 2: playing college football and even or basketball, whatever college sport
- 31:18Speaker 2: you're playing, that gets a lot of attention, the risk
- 31:20Speaker 2: versus reward. They should be getting paid because they are
- 31:22Speaker 2: adults and two, like y'all making a ton of money
- 31:25Speaker 2: off of college sports. And three, if they get injured,
- 31:28Speaker 2: then this is no longer a pathway for them to
- 31:30Speaker 2: make revenue going forward, even though you got your cut.
- 31:33Speaker 3: So those I'm not against.
- 31:34Speaker 2: And even in the NBA, I don't give a damn
- 31:36Speaker 2: if you get next your money, get y'all money, black man.
- 31:38Speaker 2: But I understand it for the NBA of like not
- 31:41Speaker 2: creating a dynasty team where we no one ever wins again.
- 31:44Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the rules. And I think
- 31:47Speaker 4: are you talking more about this story? Yeah?
- 31:49Speaker 2: Okay, So, so background on Kwhi and why this is
- 31:53Speaker 2: a whole big deal. Kui is a two time NBA
- 31:56Speaker 2: champion and six time All Star. Michael Jordan called him
- 31:58Speaker 2: the best two way player in the NBA, meaning playing
- 32:01Speaker 2: on offense and defense. Okay, go both ways period. Yes, birds,
- 32:06Speaker 2: we love a birds first top. Yes, which can't be
- 32:11Speaker 2: the same thing, but yes, it's like a It's like
- 32:13Speaker 2: a rectangle in a square. You know what I mean,
- 32:16Speaker 2: like a square. It can be a rectangle, but a
- 32:18Speaker 2: rectangle is a rectangle. Yeah, but they are parallel, but
- 32:20Speaker 2: they are parallelo grams. Okay, we're gonna give you this
- 32:22Speaker 2: Jamuy lesson that they're not giving no more in school.
- 32:24Speaker 3: Okay, but so you know he's a great player.
- 32:27Speaker 2: The Clippers have famously never won an NBA championship, so
- 32:30Speaker 2: in Kawai was a huge deal for them.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Steve, but are you a Clippers fans?
- 32:36Speaker 4: Hell's famous?
- 32:41Speaker 2: It was like, yes, So Steve Balmer currently owns the Clippers.
- 32:44Speaker 2: He used to be the CEO of Microsoft, you know
- 32:46Speaker 2: how you know Microsoft real well, and then you own
- 32:48Speaker 2: the Clippers.
- 32:49Speaker 3: Because like, once you're rich, you're a genius in every field.
- 32:52Speaker 2: What you rich, everybody even average day citizens think that
- 32:57Speaker 2: you are smarter than them because you have money.
- 33:00Speaker 4: They're like, you know Bill Gates from the Epstein Files.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Wow, so you must be amidst so genius because I
- 33:07Speaker 2: was seeing that when Spencer Pratt was running a dumb ass,
- 33:09Speaker 2: his dumbass around LA campaigning and districts that couldn't vote
- 33:11Speaker 2: for him like a dumb bitch. He's gone, thank God.
- 33:14Speaker 2: But I did notice that when I was like, why
- 33:15Speaker 2: are people going to these poles? And I was laughing
- 33:17Speaker 2: at them, like, you can't vote for the LAC there
- 33:19Speaker 2: in Beverly Hills.
- 33:20Speaker 4: I'm in Santa Monica and Spencer Pratt is not on
- 33:23Speaker 4: my ballots district.
- 33:25Speaker 3: You don't live in LA, baby, I A.
- 33:28Speaker 2: You know, there were people in the commons who were like,
- 33:31Speaker 2: I doubt that people from Beverly Hills would be that stupid.
- 33:34Speaker 2: They're rich, like they know. I'm like, do you think
- 33:36Speaker 2: money equals smart? Please stop, it's not. It's not an equivalent.
- 33:39Speaker 2: But so Steve Bamber, this guy right here, who I
- 33:43Speaker 2: never understand this ball community actually, like not even ball community.
- 33:49Speaker 2: What would I call y'all like transition balls? Transition balls?
- 33:54Speaker 2: Why are we holding on to that nap, but a
- 33:56Speaker 2: neck hair.
- 33:58Speaker 4: Oh that's some old white guys.
- 34:00Speaker 2: What does that do for you? Like when you're calm
- 34:02Speaker 2: in the back of your bald, how do you feel?
- 34:05Speaker 4: That's called hanging on just because you keep me?
- 34:10Speaker 3: But is it looking better than a full bald?
- 34:14Speaker 4: Like it's a generational thing for men that age. They
- 34:17Speaker 4: don't have They didn't have Michael Jordan, who was like, bro,
- 34:19Speaker 4: you're not leaving that ship on.
- 34:21Speaker 2: You have to have the right kind of head and
- 34:23Speaker 2: a little bit of melanin for a good bald, otherwise
- 34:25Speaker 2: you look like super Miller. So I said, if you're
- 34:27Speaker 2: a paler in the community, a bald might be hard.
- 34:29Speaker 2: But I don't know if this like wrap around.
- 34:33Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah it does.
- 34:34Speaker 3: You put a headband on the back of your neck.
- 34:37Speaker 4: And then just brought it brought it up like half
- 34:40Speaker 4: a headband. He really taped on.
- 34:43Speaker 2: Right, let it go, baby, like Elsa said, because what
- 34:45Speaker 2: are y'all doing? So this is Steve Balmer. He looks
- 34:47Speaker 2: like he's just a genius.
- 34:49Speaker 3: For sure.
- 34:50Speaker 2: He's known for being really sweaty. I could see that
- 34:53Speaker 2: in this picture. I don't know what action he's doing,
- 34:56Speaker 2: but there's a desk and a Microsoft cup. It seems
- 34:57Speaker 2: like he's one of those rich guys talk.
- 35:00Speaker 4: Very famous clip of him introducing like a new Microsoft product,
- 35:04Speaker 4: and he's just screaming across the stage, sweating through his shit.
- 35:09Speaker 2: So he says the word developers a lot, which you know,
- 35:12Speaker 2: I love somebody who just uses like Sinicon, Valley Lake,
- 35:16Speaker 2: just jargon all the time. Okay, give me some of
- 35:18Speaker 2: that in the red in the black future earning synergy,
- 35:22Speaker 2: you know, syenergy.
- 35:23Speaker 3: Gotta have synergy, babes.
- 35:25Speaker 4: Okay, gotta have synergy. You know what I mean.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Give me all the buzz words. Okay, are you disrupting?
- 35:30Speaker 2: Be a disruptor?
- 35:31Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I mean when it developer is a gig
- 35:33Speaker 4: you know like that.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Yeah, there are legitimate people who do these things. It's
- 35:36Speaker 2: just the people who throw around the words so much.
- 35:38Speaker 2: I'm like, you scamming, because why are you throwing all
- 35:39Speaker 2: these words? I mean, can you if you can't explain
- 35:40Speaker 2: to me like I'm five, I know it's a crime.
- 35:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna explain like I believe you have the
- 35:44Speaker 4: intellect of a five year old and trying to say
- 35:46Speaker 4: all this shit to.
- 35:47Speaker 2: You, I'm just throwing words that you are you supposed
- 35:49Speaker 2: to be a press don't ask no questions?
- 35:51Speaker 4: Yeah, how many terror flop? You know how many terrorflaps
- 35:53Speaker 4: that's running?
- 35:53Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, we'reizing disruption right now. You don't even
- 35:57Speaker 2: know disruption in acinerators at.
- 36:01Speaker 4: Leastes infinite growth. Bitch again, what do you call me? Bitch?
- 36:08Speaker 3: It's just adds a little season there.
- 36:11Speaker 2: He's also the eighth richest person in the world, and
- 36:14Speaker 2: you can tell that by looking at him for sure.
- 36:17Speaker 3: I'm my y'all when y'all see him, it's giving Cole's dad.
- 36:20Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's true. Like you don't give it at
- 36:22Speaker 4: that point. You're like, Bro, what the fuck do I need?
- 36:23Speaker 2: And I don't even mind that you have to be
- 36:25Speaker 2: a fashion girly just because you have money. But I'm like,
- 36:27Speaker 2: I just know if you're that rich, I promise you
- 36:30Speaker 2: these closed in comfortable box store.
- 36:31Speaker 3: So you tell them you spend it, like one thousand
- 36:33Speaker 3: dollars on the ugliest T shirt.
- 36:35Speaker 4: That's like, yeah, you know it's but down. You know doctors, Well,
- 36:38Speaker 4: that's a three thousand dollars version of.
- 36:39Speaker 3: Them that I'm ware like, you look like a server
- 36:42Speaker 3: at Long Horror Ranch. My guy, why do we have
- 36:44Speaker 3: this plat on what's happening.
- 36:46Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
- 36:48Speaker 3: So when your net.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Worth is like one hundred and fifty five billion, it's
- 36:52Speaker 2: gotta be frustrating when people say you can't spend money
- 36:55Speaker 2: on something. But the NBA salary cap limits the total
- 36:59Speaker 2: amount of money, and NBA team can pay all of
- 37:01Speaker 2: their players to a combined one hundred and fifty four million,
- 37:04Speaker 2: So Steve actually isn't allowed to pay his players more
- 37:07Speaker 2: than that.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Even if he really wants to.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Now we know which people are famous for wanting to
- 37:13Speaker 2: pay people more. No, there's obviously an advantage in it
- 37:17Speaker 2: for him to be able to lock down talented players
- 37:20Speaker 2: at this bummy ass team. Sorry, Clippers fans, y'all know
- 37:22Speaker 2: what lost feels like. I'm a Cowboys fan.
- 37:24Speaker 3: I'm with y'all. We've been losing all the time.
- 37:26Speaker 4: Do you have a basketball team Maverick I I fuck no,
- 37:29Speaker 4: I fucking hate the Mavericks.
- 37:32Speaker 3: I'm actually like, you're fan.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Wow, good for you before i't like, So there you go.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Yeah, let them know, let them know. Yeah, all the
- 37:38Speaker 4: Clippers fans that you just upset with that they're gonna
- 37:40Speaker 4: come for yours.
- 37:41Speaker 3: Yeah, we was never checking for y'all.
- 37:42Speaker 2: But I'm a Knicks fan right now because after they
- 37:44Speaker 2: won the championship, we're all you out there.
- 37:46Speaker 4: So I did.
- 37:47Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Mama's mom Donny stand this
- 37:48Speaker 2: weekend and I'm gonna tear it up.
- 37:50Speaker 3: Can't wait to be with my mayor.
- 37:51Speaker 4: Period.
- 37:52Speaker 2: I'm trying to meet I'm trying to find them. I
- 37:53Speaker 2: know he's gonna be at one of them June teeth Parraides. Oh, yeah,
- 37:56Speaker 2: trying to meet my mayor.
- 37:57Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 37:58Speaker 2: SOA's truck right now guarantees some fifty million per season,
- 38:02Speaker 2: which is about a third of the total salary budget
- 38:04Speaker 2: for the team. So a third of the budget is
- 38:07Speaker 2: going to one guy, Kawhi Leonard. At this point, they're
- 38:11Speaker 2: paying him more than anybody, right, which made the other
- 38:14Speaker 2: guys feel bad, which is what Steve did. So Steve
- 38:19Speaker 2: is remember our ex Microsoft sweaty guy and now sweats
- 38:23Speaker 2: at the Clippers. So Pablo found that Steve, So Pablo
- 38:28Speaker 2: is our nosy, messy investigator who is gonna give us
- 38:31Speaker 2: the tea. He found out that Steve made a fifty
- 38:34Speaker 2: million dollar personal investment in a green bank. And this
- 38:38Speaker 2: company is called Aspiration. You know, I don't know if
- 38:42Speaker 2: I want my bank to be talking about aspiration.
- 38:45Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, like let's let's be achieving things. Yeah, are
- 38:47Speaker 4: you aspiring to be.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Achiement bank is given that I'm on red in my
- 38:52Speaker 2: bank account.
- 38:53Speaker 3: It's given over draft fees.
- 38:54Speaker 2: I want achievement, yeah, inspiration yeah yeah, success yeah right
- 38:58Speaker 2: right right right?
- 38:59Speaker 4: You want to wish.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Factor, Yeah I don't want to. I'll bank it imagination imagination.
- 39:05Speaker 4: Bank exactly, yeah, yeah, exactly, make a wish bank.
- 39:10Speaker 2: And then disclaimer says, we hope we're covered by the
- 39:13Speaker 2: fd I sed So I don't know if they are,
- 39:14Speaker 2: because it's like, yeah, hopefully we are.
- 39:16Speaker 4: It's his FDIC inshirt. Yeah, hold on, let me get
- 39:19Speaker 4: back to you.
- 39:19Speaker 3: Yeah probably maybe wow.
- 39:21Speaker 4: And they wrote all that out.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Maybe definitely, so they got to ask. They got a
- 39:25Speaker 2: little aspiration ad here. It's very simple. It says with
- 39:29Speaker 2: a with a racially ambiguous manhand. It says save money,
- 39:33Speaker 2: come up, save the planet, aspiration, and it's got the
- 39:36Speaker 2: app up and the little aspiration card. I will never
- 39:39Speaker 2: understand why fake banks always have the most bootleg looking card.
- 39:44Speaker 2: Just make it look like other bank cards too.
- 39:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 39:46Speaker 2: I don't want to go in you know, like I'm
- 39:48Speaker 2: at the doctor's appointment. I got to pull out my
- 39:50Speaker 2: gift card, looking ass bank card.
- 39:52Speaker 4: They're like, what is this from David Busters? Yeah no, no,
- 39:55Speaker 4: this is a new bank. I'm with, what the fuck?
- 39:57Speaker 4: What is it called? It's called Preschool Player Player Preschool
- 40:00Speaker 4: Player Bank. What is that?
- 40:03Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 40:03Speaker 2: No, it's called Martha Marlborough Lights.
- 40:08Speaker 4: They got a bank.
- 40:08Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, they got a bank now and they have planes.
- 40:12Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So what can't Marbor have a bank? What
- 40:16Speaker 2: can they sponsor my ATM car bank with America Spirit?
- 40:23Speaker 4: They want Washington Mutual. They're like, they don't exist anymore. Well,
- 40:27Speaker 4: they got like one left.
- 40:28Speaker 3: They got Yeah, they got a little it's like more
- 40:30Speaker 3: of a pop up bank.
- 40:33Speaker 4: You should look out check their twitter.
- 40:34Speaker 3: It might be I have to go on their Twitter
- 40:37Speaker 3: to see when I can draw.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes it's in another state. It's kind of.
- 40:42Speaker 3: So.
- 40:43Speaker 2: He even partnered this is our our stever our Steve.
- 40:47Speaker 2: I'm gonna calls campus scamma scammer, but Steve O scammer Stever.
- 40:51Speaker 2: He partnered with the company to build uh the Inuit
- 40:54Speaker 2: Dome for the Clippers to put it into it.
- 40:58Speaker 3: Why not say Inuit, that's bank there's a cursor in
- 41:00Speaker 3: the middle. I'm gonna fan myself. I'm gonna blame Joe
- 41:03Speaker 3: over and not whatnot, but into into a dome that
- 41:08Speaker 3: start moving the cursor around. Now, Joe, are you're funny? Okay?
- 41:10Speaker 2: So, behind the scenes, Aspiration gave Kawhi a twenty eight
- 41:15Speaker 2: million dollar endorsement deal, paying him to market the company,
- 41:19Speaker 2: which is interesting because he never did any marketing and
- 41:22Speaker 2: certainly did not mention the partnership. Aspiration employees said it
- 41:25Speaker 2: was a no show job for ballmerst that's our Steve
- 41:28Speaker 2: guy to get around the salary cap and play Kawhi
- 41:31Speaker 2: an extra twenty eight million. Aspiration co founder Joe Sandberg
- 41:35Speaker 2: recently pleaded guilty to defrauding investors, and Pablo has evidence
- 41:38Speaker 2: that Steve and Joe from into it the stadium building
- 41:41Speaker 2: were on good terms well after the fraud took place.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Steve quietly donated another one point eight seventy five million
- 41:47Speaker 2: to Joe's charity more than a year after the Clippers
- 41:50Speaker 2: ended their partnership with Aspirations. So even though Aspiration went down,
- 41:53Speaker 2: he was like, I ain't even know nothing about that,
- 41:55Speaker 2: but you still cool.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Joe. At the one point eight million.
- 41:58Speaker 4: Can you can you just slide that to coir real quick?
- 42:01Speaker 4: Because it's crazy too, Like the amounts that Pablo finds
- 42:04Speaker 4: out in the investigation, they're like they're just nearly exact,
- 42:06Speaker 4: the exact amounts that were being paid through Aspiration to
- 42:11Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard.
- 42:12Speaker 2: So they even try to clean up the paper trail.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Why you couldn't have done one like commercial.
- 42:17Speaker 4: For Inspiration, No, not one, not one. And the other
- 42:22Speaker 4: thing too is like the like the actual the lack
- 42:26Speaker 4: of work that was being done that like on Kauhi's part,
- 42:30Speaker 4: Like you couldn't even post something like just a lazy post.
- 42:35Speaker 2: There's nothing, Like they couldn't even got you for that
- 42:38Speaker 2: trash ass little image that they put up with Aspiration.
- 42:40Speaker 2: It could have been your black ass hants holding the
- 42:42Speaker 2: phone and then the bootleg ass gets par You couldn't
- 42:45Speaker 2: do that. You couldn't get on Instagram and be like,
- 42:47Speaker 2: I only trust Aspiration with my banking when it comes
- 42:50Speaker 2: to bottle service, I always know my check clears, Like
- 42:53Speaker 2: what the hell the Aspiration right?
- 42:56Speaker 4: But no, he couldn't he could have even done a
- 42:58Speaker 4: post like where they just have a like his roster
- 43:01Speaker 4: photo with just some text on him like here, man,
- 43:02Speaker 4: can you just post session on your stories? Bro, We're
- 43:04Speaker 4: giving you millions of dollars.
- 43:05Speaker 3: Just just do that, right, yes, gone in twenty four hours.
- 43:11Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And at least you could say you're like, yeah, yeah,
- 43:13Speaker 4: I did ship for them. That's what they just paid.
- 43:15Speaker 4: That's what I charge. It's crazy too because his uncle
- 43:18Speaker 4: is like such a big part of his deal making too.
- 43:20Speaker 4: Like his uncle Dennis is was like the Dennis yeah
- 43:24Speaker 4: finds the one like he's known like in the league
- 43:27Speaker 4: for as being like, we need to get some more
- 43:28Speaker 4: money to kawhi h and like always trying to figure
- 43:31Speaker 4: out ways to get more money for his nephew.
- 43:33Speaker 3: We all need to Uncle Dennis.
- 43:35Speaker 4: Yeah, come clocking my job.
- 43:38Speaker 3: Hey, my mu's gas more money for her job.
- 43:40Speaker 4: Thank you for this.
- 43:41Speaker 2: And now the last time a team tried to do
- 43:43Speaker 2: this was in the nineties. It was the Minnesota Timbleroopes Wolves,
- 43:46Speaker 2: and they were doing it on behalf of Joe Smith,
- 43:49Speaker 2: that player. And in that instance, the Timberwolves were deilt
- 43:52Speaker 2: heavy fines, multiple suspensions, and forfeited first round draft picks.
- 43:56Speaker 2: And that may not have been anywhere near the scale
- 43:59Speaker 2: of what the Clipper have been a list to be doing.
- 44:02Speaker 2: They want to bove and be on to make sure
- 44:04Speaker 2: that Kawhi was making more money than he legally was
- 44:06Speaker 2: supposed to be paid.
- 44:07Speaker 3: Right, and still they haven't won a championship.
- 44:11Speaker 4: After all that look at you?
- 44:13Speaker 2: So Kawhid made it a response video, so now he's
- 44:16Speaker 2: trying to you know, everybody's got to do the response videos.
- 44:19Speaker 2: I wonder what it must feel like when you're planning
- 44:21Speaker 2: your response video and you're like, okay, we gotta.
- 44:25Speaker 4: Right.
- 44:26Speaker 2: You gotta do some environment where you don't look too rich.
- 44:28Speaker 2: Let's get like a white wall, maybe one plant in
- 44:31Speaker 2: the background. You know, don't wear no nice clothes if
- 44:34Speaker 2: you're a woman, or you or you wear makeup in general.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Give yourself a light beat so it looks natural, you know,
- 44:40Speaker 2: and like you just fresh off a crying.
- 44:42Speaker 4: Put the eyeglasses on if you have eye put some
- 44:44Speaker 4: put eyeglasses on.
- 44:45Speaker 2: You have to take you have to put glasses on
- 44:47Speaker 2: so that people can't really tell us good when you
- 44:50Speaker 2: lie in Yeah you know what I mean, they can't
- 44:51Speaker 2: see the eyd darts from the glares.
- 44:53Speaker 4: Well, that person wearing glasses, why would they lie?
- 44:55Speaker 2: I never seen them in glasses they got twenty third
- 44:57Speaker 2: vision twenty to twenty now, so I love people are
- 45:02Speaker 2: making me dumber.
- 45:03Speaker 3: So but yeah, he need do none of that. So
- 45:05Speaker 3: here's the response, Udio. We're gonna watch a little bit
- 45:07Speaker 3: of it.
- 45:07Speaker 1: I understand that full contract and the services that I
- 45:11Speaker 1: had to do. Like I said, I don't do a
- 45:13Speaker 1: deal with the conspiracies or the clickbait analysts or journalism
- 45:20Speaker 1: that's going on. So that's that's what it is.
- 45:24Speaker 2: Well, I think the allegation was that that you didn't
- 45:26Speaker 2: perform an these services for them.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Is that accurate or did you do? It's accurate, but
- 45:32Speaker 1: it's old. It is. This is all new to you guys.
- 45:35Speaker 1: The company went bankrupt a while ago, so we already
- 45:39Speaker 1: knew that this.
- 45:39Speaker 4: Was going to happen.
- 45:40Speaker 2: So so Kawhi made this response video and he kind
- 45:44Speaker 2: of dis this Pablo too, calling this conspiracies and click baits.
- 45:50Speaker 2: So he was saying, Pablo made this all up in
- 45:52Speaker 2: his head. Honestly, I kind of understand why he came
- 45:54Speaker 2: out of this, Pablo, because Pablo, this ain't none of
- 45:56Speaker 2: your damn business. Like Pablo, you care, But Againlo is
- 46:01Speaker 2: a hater and I always say on the show, why
- 46:03Speaker 2: the hater job. If you are a hater, channel your hate.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Don't use it on your friends, your loved ones, general
- 46:08Speaker 2: people in the public. Channel your hate into a profession.
- 46:11Speaker 2: So Pablo has done that. He has a hater profession.
- 46:14Speaker 4: That's crazy. He want to pull it, sir.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Yeah, all investigative journalism is is haters for a purpose.
- 46:23Speaker 2: And I love that for them because I do want
- 46:25Speaker 2: these things to be saying.
- 46:27Speaker 4: Yeah, you need but you need that a little bit
- 46:29Speaker 4: in you to keep digging, to keep going spirit.
- 46:32Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to pray to the altar of fifty
- 46:36Speaker 2: right and be be a true like unmitigated twenty four
- 46:41Speaker 2: to seven hater, you know what I mean.
- 46:43Speaker 3: And you have to have creativity to be a hater.
- 46:44Speaker 2: If you're a hater and you just post negativehit about
- 46:46Speaker 2: people online, you ain't a real hater. You need to
- 46:48Speaker 2: give it up because you're not in the hater league.
- 46:50Speaker 4: You're just upset.
- 46:51Speaker 3: I want people.
- 46:52Speaker 2: Who go through all the social media, including the tag photos,
- 46:55Speaker 2: then go through everybody they follow and see what they
- 46:58Speaker 2: connection to see.
- 46:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I want somebody looking at your Venmo history.
- 47:02Speaker 2: I want somebody who somehow got access to your Ralph's
- 47:07Speaker 2: store card, membership and knows what you're purchasing in average
- 47:09Speaker 2: Why yes, who hates super duper hard right?
- 47:14Speaker 4: Yeah, like your superhero amount that Like.
- 47:16Speaker 2: Yeah, like that guy who tracked all of Taylor Swift's
- 47:19Speaker 2: private jet.
- 47:20Speaker 4: Flights right right right, right right right, Like you gotta
- 47:22Speaker 4: be really in the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out.
- 47:25Speaker 3: To popular but obviously is trying to deflect.
- 47:28Speaker 4: Yeah, and also like I get it too, Like what
- 47:31Speaker 4: are you gonna say, like, yeah, we were working around,
- 47:33Speaker 4: I was getting extra money on the side, Like what
- 47:34Speaker 4: do you mean to do? Yeah, because that would be
- 47:36Speaker 4: the version. I'm like, yeah, bro, what I mean honestly,
- 47:39Speaker 4: I was just stealing it from somebody, you know what
- 47:42Speaker 4: I mean. But yeah, it's breaking the rule and I
- 47:44Speaker 4: get that.
- 47:45Speaker 2: But also Coel Investigation, you ain't gonna catch my black ass.
- 47:48Speaker 2: I'm like talking about ship. If I'm nowhere near, You're
- 47:50Speaker 2: not gonna catch because what if you slip up? What
- 47:51Speaker 2: do you say something that you're not saying?
- 47:53Speaker 4: Still, lawyer, go over play dumb.
- 47:56Speaker 2: I would have been like, all I know is my
- 47:57Speaker 2: checks get cash. I don't know where that money coming from.
- 48:00Speaker 3: Show up to do my job.
- 48:01Speaker 4: Look, I'm going through a lot right now, you know
- 48:03Speaker 4: what I mean, just just all Yeah, that's what you say.
- 48:07Speaker 2: It almost doesn't mean anything anymore. When people are like,
- 48:09Speaker 2: I'm going through so much. I'm like, babes, I think
- 48:11Speaker 2: that's just our lives now. Everyone's going through a lot.
- 48:14Speaker 4: We all are welcome to earth, and.
- 48:16Speaker 2: I think we all need to start acting accordingly. Okay,
- 48:19Speaker 2: that's true, go straight to anger. Just know that their
- 48:22Speaker 2: life is probably worse than yours.
- 48:24Speaker 4: Everybody's fucked up right now.
- 48:26Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's get that in mind.
- 48:28Speaker 2: So you know, we've had other sports stories from the past,
- 48:32Speaker 2: deerroid scams, things like that. In twenty fifteen, it was
- 48:35Speaker 2: a big year for the New England Patriots because Bill
- 48:39Speaker 2: Belichick's current girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, turned fourteen.
- 48:45Speaker 4: You're gonna say some shit like that, like what the fuck.
- 48:51Speaker 2: It's also the year of that famous deflate gate where
- 48:54Speaker 2: they deflated the ball.
- 48:55Speaker 3: You know, it's sports.
- 48:56Speaker 4: It's gonna be a little bit born after nine to
- 48:58Speaker 4: eleven or before an island by just a couple months away.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Wonder, Oh wow, if she was fourteen and twenty fifteen.
- 49:04Speaker 4: She on no one.
- 49:06Speaker 2: Yeah, she definitely doesn't remember it. She never knew a
- 49:08Speaker 2: world with the Twin Towers. Never know Mary Kay or
- 49:11Speaker 2: Ashley Damn.
- 49:12Speaker 4: She didn't know brother for sale. Nah Now April third,
- 49:15Speaker 4: two thousand and one. Okay, so she was alive since
- 49:19Speaker 4: it as an you were you were five months and
- 49:21Speaker 4: eight days old. You knew someone was wrong.
- 49:23Speaker 3: You were here. You were here.
- 49:25Speaker 2: So, like, there's been things like this that happened all
- 49:28Speaker 2: the time, right, and with the deflate Gate, you know,
- 49:32Speaker 2: we heard of William Douglas Street truly one of the
- 49:34Speaker 2: wildest sports scammers to ever do it. This dude pretended
- 49:37Speaker 2: to be everyone but himself his whole life for human
- 49:40Speaker 2: like from a human rights lawyer to a surgeon, to
- 49:43Speaker 2: a white Yale student, and for one very memorable spring
- 49:49Speaker 2: training in nineteen seventy one, he pretended to be a
- 49:51Speaker 2: football player Jerry Levas. So I've been moving on from
- 49:55Speaker 2: sketchy ass Patriots and Tom Brady and the flake.
- 49:57Speaker 3: Gate and Kawhi and his last being the best hater ever.
- 50:01Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about one more sports sports scheme scam
- 50:04Speaker 2: that's been in the zeitgeist.
- 50:06Speaker 3: And because like we've all heard of.
- 50:08Speaker 2: Defla Kate, right, but none of us have heard of
- 50:09Speaker 2: William Douglas Street, and he's truly one of the wildest
- 50:12Speaker 2: sports scammers to ever do it.
- 50:14Speaker 3: This dude pretended to.
- 50:15Speaker 2: Be everyone but himself his whole life, from a human
- 50:18Speaker 2: rights lawyer to a surgeon, to a white student at Yale,
- 50:21Speaker 2: and for one very memorable spring training season in nineteen
- 50:24Speaker 2: seventy one, he pretended to be a football player. Jerry
- 50:28Speaker 2: Levias on the Houston Oilers, I want to point out Williams,
- 50:32Speaker 2: why were you pretending to be a surgeon and how
- 50:35Speaker 2: does that work out for you?
- 50:37Speaker 3: Like, because people do it on people.
- 50:40Speaker 4: I mean he had to just be doing it to
- 50:43Speaker 4: like get through the doors or something.
- 50:44Speaker 2: Right, there's no telling people he's a surgeon in nobody's
- 50:47Speaker 2: hospital and white Yell student. The white is important because
- 50:50Speaker 2: this man is black as hell.
- 50:52Speaker 4: He didn't show up being like that's me.
- 50:54Speaker 2: No, No, he couldn't have pretended to show up in person,
- 50:57Speaker 2: because once we see a black ass.
- 50:59Speaker 4: We do want to be like, hold on, no, we
- 51:01Speaker 4: can't come.
- 51:01Speaker 2: Out as black. Nobody comes out in the black closet.
- 51:04Speaker 2: We know where we see that type. Strong as ham.
- 51:11Speaker 2: You could be light white, you could be having hair
- 51:14Speaker 2: that doesn't reflect African American hairitectures.
- 51:16Speaker 3: I can still tell them a little bit black. They're
- 51:17Speaker 3: just by looking at.
- 51:18Speaker 4: Joe Face and Jerry Levias though that name is un
- 51:23Speaker 4: that feels like such a scammer name. Yeah, I'm Jerry Levas.
- 51:28Speaker 2: So right now, Myles, we're looking at a photo of
- 51:30Speaker 2: the actual Jerry Levas and compared to the photo of
- 51:34Speaker 2: William pretending to be him, Jerry.
- 51:37Speaker 3: Looks like a football player, like he's meaty, he got
- 51:39Speaker 3: a thick neck.
- 51:40Speaker 4: Yeah. Then I was gonna say that when your neck
- 51:43Speaker 4: is like, you know how, like you can see somebody
- 51:45Speaker 4: and the width of their head is not the same
- 51:47Speaker 4: as their neck. He's got the thing where he's like
- 51:49Speaker 4: a thumb, you know what I mean, like when.
- 51:51Speaker 2: Your loaves touch your neck, Like when it's all the same. Yeah,
- 51:56Speaker 2: it's like he got like a cylinder from the neck
- 51:58Speaker 2: up to the head. It's all the same circumference.
- 52:02Speaker 4: Right, Why don't you.
- 52:03Speaker 3: Why did you?
- 52:04Speaker 2: I'm a tree today, guys you But yeah, it's like
- 52:06Speaker 2: it goes all the way down here. Yeah, big, go ahead,
- 52:07Speaker 2: and the thick ass nick I know his next jong
- 52:09Speaker 2: you probably can lift all types of shit with that.
- 52:10Speaker 3: Nick. I think he could toll a car just put
- 52:12Speaker 3: the thing around his neck.
- 52:14Speaker 4: And it's a hard I gotta say, when you see
- 52:16Speaker 4: somebody like this, you're like, yeah, that's a football player.
- 52:18Speaker 4: It's hard to pretend you're a football player. And because
- 52:21Speaker 4: you also need to have your neck as thick, you
- 52:24Speaker 4: come in with that little floppy ass neck. No, they're
- 52:26Speaker 4: gonna know, they're gonna.
- 52:27Speaker 3: And it's so clear in the photos that William ain't
- 52:30Speaker 3: done a neck up. He ain't shin up.
- 52:32Speaker 2: He ain't never put a barbelle on the back of
- 52:34Speaker 2: that neck and started working that neck out.
- 52:36Speaker 4: But that stop on his head just lifted forty five fleet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
- 52:41Speaker 4: he ain't Nick Mexan. No, so.
- 52:44Speaker 3: Minie, he's Nick Minny. Oh thin ass neck.
- 52:47Speaker 2: So I don't know how they didn't notice that one
- 52:49Speaker 2: man looks like a football player and the other one
- 52:51Speaker 2: definitely is a necklace pedestrian.
- 52:53Speaker 4: I wonder if they're just like, oh, maybe he's sick
- 52:55Speaker 4: or something. Yeah that.
- 52:59Speaker 3: Helps. They were like, he's y'all, so.
- 53:01Speaker 4: He definitely play it. They could have just been the angle.
- 53:03Speaker 4: You'd already know. He's probably faster than the daylights. Right.
- 53:07Speaker 2: That's like me showing up looking like whis Khalifah talk
- 53:09Speaker 2: about I'm about to be a running back. I'm about
- 53:12Speaker 2: to be a linebacker. Yeah, put me a defensive line.
- 53:15Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, bro, you will die.
- 53:17Speaker 3: You will die.
- 53:18Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, in practice and make it no.
- 53:22Speaker 2: So yes, I don't know how he got away with
- 53:24Speaker 2: this so long, but I'm just gonna blame it on
- 53:25Speaker 2: the white days, which for him worked out this time.
- 53:29Speaker 4: Yeah. So you know, see, this is why.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Y'all should be Everybody needs to be tolerant and open
- 53:34Speaker 2: and maybe hang around more people of color, because then
- 53:37Speaker 2: you would have known that this was not the negro
- 53:39Speaker 2: you wanted.
- 53:40Speaker 4: No, these are not this is not him.
- 53:44Speaker 3: So.
- 53:46Speaker 2: William was born in Detroit and he went to college
- 53:48Speaker 2: for two years before beginning his sports specific scamming career
- 53:52Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nine when he impersonated his way into
- 53:54Speaker 2: tryouts for the Boston Red Sox, and then he spent
- 53:57Speaker 2: the next year, and then the next year he returned
- 54:01Speaker 2: impersonating a Time magazine reporter doing a story on the team.
- 54:05Speaker 2: So first he came in and he pretended that like
- 54:08Speaker 2: he was gonna be on the Boston Red Slits.
- 54:10Speaker 3: He don't got to know, and that didn't work out.
- 54:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, are you wearing the same hat he is
- 54:14Speaker 2: in this photo?
- 54:15Speaker 4: I am wearing a Detroit Tiger's hat, which is kind
- 54:18Speaker 4: of wild. Yeah, yeah, but this one has this for
- 54:20Speaker 4: Jay Dillon because he's from Detroit. But yeah, I was
- 54:22Speaker 4: like when I'm like, I have a Detroit hat on.
- 54:26Speaker 3: So I love that he tried out one year and
- 54:27Speaker 3: then he came back the next year and was like,
- 54:28Speaker 3: I've ever pulled up.
- 54:29Speaker 4: That's crazy. They're like, bro, ain't the fucking guy who
- 54:32Speaker 4: tried to Who.
- 54:33Speaker 3: Is a different guy? I remember you look alike.
- 54:36Speaker 4: You swung the bat and you spun around like a
- 54:38Speaker 4: cartoon when you when you struck out, everyone remember then
- 54:40Speaker 4: your pants fell down.
- 54:41Speaker 2: That's that you were hooting a hollow and we know
- 54:43Speaker 2: exactly magazine nose, What are you.
- 54:47Speaker 3: Talking like that? It's not the twenties now.
- 54:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 54:51Speaker 3: He was just doing anything and everything right.
- 54:54Speaker 2: So the Red Sox even caught William trying to order
- 54:56Speaker 2: a world series ring under Boston pr director Bill Crowley's name,
- 55:00Speaker 2: with the order to ship it to a resident in Detroit.
- 55:03Speaker 2: The Red Sox hadn't won the World Series since nineteen eighteen,
- 55:06Speaker 2: so he's also trying to get mobilia from what he's
- 55:08Speaker 2: doing with like he's just I don't understand his motivation
- 55:11Speaker 2: this particular sports scammer, like I understand with Kawhi. He
- 55:14Speaker 2: was trying to get a bag and he didn't care
- 55:15Speaker 2: where that bag came from. And Steve just didn't care
- 55:17Speaker 2: about making it look legit. So that makes sense. This guy,
- 55:20Speaker 2: I don't really know what his motivation is and scamming
- 55:22Speaker 2: in sports, but it's interesting.
- 55:24Speaker 4: He must just get a high from it, because it's
- 55:27Speaker 4: not like calculating to the point where you're like, oh
- 55:29Speaker 4: that slick, like you tried out for a team, you
- 55:31Speaker 4: didn't make it, and then you came back to that
- 55:32Speaker 4: team the next year pretending as a fake reporter, Like
- 55:35Speaker 4: that's crazy. Why are you going back to the same
- 55:38Speaker 4: crime scene like that.
- 55:39Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't know the team. It's plenty of baseball teams.
- 55:41Speaker 4: It's like I didn't make the team. Hold On just
- 55:43Speaker 4: puts a different outfit on. He's like, hey man, my
- 55:45Speaker 4: name's Jerry Leviathan, not me here to try out.
- 55:48Speaker 2: He threw on a wig and he had a new profession.
- 55:50Speaker 2: And honestly, I'm not mad at that, Like.
- 55:52Speaker 4: I would tell you you just turned your back.
- 55:54Speaker 2: I was working on a show once and we It
- 55:57Speaker 2: was in a place that just started Their film ministry
- 55:59Speaker 2: had just started booming, so they didn't really have a
- 56:01Speaker 2: lot of professionals in film working there, so a lot
- 56:04Speaker 2: of people you can tell just lying on their resumes.
- 56:06Speaker 2: And we had this one lady who was like an
- 56:08Speaker 2: animal handler. And one day we walked outside and she was,
- 56:11Speaker 2: I kid you not, Miles. She was fist fighting this
- 56:13Speaker 2: raccoon that would us. She was boxing with this.
- 56:19Speaker 3: Raccoon, giving the raccoon a one in the two.
- 56:22Speaker 2: And then we were like, hey, are you supposed to
- 56:25Speaker 2: be like punching in like that, and she's like, yeah,
- 56:27Speaker 2: this is a part of the training. We were like, okay, okay, sure,
- 56:31Speaker 2: yeah for sure, and then I kid you out. The
- 56:33Speaker 2: next day, I came in and I went to the
- 56:35Speaker 2: like a little snack cart to get a lettuce wrap sandwich.
- 56:39Speaker 2: So I go up to make my order and guess
- 56:41Speaker 2: who turns around The raccoon lady.
- 56:43Speaker 3: Now she make a.
- 56:43Speaker 2: Sandwich is on set No, So I feel like whatever
- 56:47Speaker 2: entrepreneurial spirit William has, that raccoon lady has the same one.
- 56:50Speaker 2: She said, throw a wee go and make him feel
- 56:52Speaker 2: like she did come back to the same job. Now
- 56:54Speaker 2: I'm make saying what you want, what you want your sandwich,
- 56:58Speaker 2: but not raccoon. You don't know, right, no, no, no,
- 57:02Speaker 2: And all this time that William was pretending to be
- 57:05Speaker 2: Jerry Levas right. For the Oilers, Jerry Lebias is a
- 57:09Speaker 2: real athlete. He's the first black football player in the
- 57:11Speaker 2: Southwest Conference for college football. Who's now a pro player
- 57:15Speaker 2: for who's now like a poor player for the Houston Oilers.
- 57:17Speaker 4: Oh so February. Yeah, so he was impersonating an actual
- 57:21Speaker 4: Oilagues player.
- 57:22Speaker 3: I know that name sounded familiar.
- 57:24Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, that's crazy. Yeah.
- 57:26Speaker 2: And so in nineteen seventy one, in February, Oilers fans
- 57:29Speaker 2: were surprised and disappointed to reading local papers that Jerry
- 57:32Speaker 2: had decided he was done playing football. He didn't like
- 57:35Speaker 2: Houston or the team, and he wanted to try out
- 57:37Speaker 2: for the Detroit Tigers baseball team. So he pulled Michael Jordan.
- 57:42Speaker 2: It's like, I never mind, I want to play baseball.
- 57:44Speaker 2: So he went to their spring training camp in Florida.
- 57:47Speaker 2: The Tigers wrote a press release announcing the football star's
- 57:50Speaker 2: presence at their training camp. The team looked at the
- 57:52Speaker 2: man who wore dark sunglasses around team facilities and got
- 57:56Speaker 2: him a pair of new shoes. They gave him a
- 57:59Speaker 2: tie's cap and invited him to the press to take photos.
- 58:03Speaker 3: But that wasn't Jerry, so he wore.
- 58:05Speaker 2: Sunglasses to pretend that he was Jerry Lebias, Like while
- 58:09Speaker 2: he's trying to get on this new team.
- 58:12Speaker 4: So he just puts so his Disguy's just like, okay,
- 58:14Speaker 4: what up with these sunglasses?
- 58:15Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't tell black people apart. And you know,
- 58:18Speaker 3: this is the seventies, so we're not chronically online seeing
- 58:21Speaker 3: people's faces so much we can recognize if.
- 58:23Speaker 4: It's them or not. This was such a beautiful time
- 58:27Speaker 4: to be a con artist.
- 58:28Speaker 2: If you were a doppelganger of anyone famous, I really
- 58:31Speaker 2: hope you had thought.
- 58:32Speaker 4: My grandfather was Bill Cosby.
- 58:34Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, and I was starting a time where
- 58:36Speaker 3: he that name.
- 58:37Speaker 4: Yeah, this was this was like in the This was
- 58:39Speaker 4: like the early seventies and ship and my dad used
- 58:41Speaker 4: to say they would go out and all these like
- 58:44Speaker 4: white matre D's like because they were you know, they
- 58:47Speaker 4: would go out sometimes. My grandpa was like hustling and shit,
- 58:49Speaker 4: he wanted to go out for a nice dinner. And
- 58:51Speaker 4: these white matre D's would be like, oh my god,
- 58:52Speaker 4: mister Cosby, and he just would he said the second
- 58:55Speaker 4: time it happened, my grandfather just stopped disagreeing. He's like,
- 59:00Speaker 4: if these white people think I'm Bill Cosby and they're
- 59:02Speaker 4: gonna pay for most of this meal, if not all
- 59:04Speaker 4: of it, then fuck you. I'm Bill Cosby and I don't.
- 59:05Speaker 3: Know they're gonna treat me well.
- 59:07Speaker 4: And I've never said and he always told me. I
- 59:09Speaker 4: was like, and you said you're Bill Cosby? Was like
- 59:10Speaker 4: hell no. They just were like, hey, mister Cosby, and
- 59:13Speaker 4: I was just like, yeah, yeah, hey bucket, yeah, beautiful
- 59:20Speaker 4: guy to send you a picture, because like he looks
- 59:23Speaker 4: like an off brand. Like to a white person you
- 59:26Speaker 4: would be like, that's Bill Cosby. And in the context
- 59:32Speaker 4: you're like, well, the only britch black person who would
- 59:34Speaker 4: come in here, right, I have to be Bill Cosby,
- 59:36Speaker 4: so therefore you are Bill Cosby.
- 59:38Speaker 3: They put all that together, and that's exactly what they do.
- 59:40Speaker 2: I'm in first class on the plane and turned around
- 59:42Speaker 2: and asked like, like the seat person behind me, because
- 59:45Speaker 2: I had a window aisle, if it was okay if
- 59:47Speaker 2: I turned one of the air things off because it
- 59:48Speaker 2: was getting a little chilly, and they're like, yeah, you're cool.
- 59:50Speaker 2: The only thing I spoke to this man? Tell me
- 59:52Speaker 2: why it was a red Eye? Why go up to
- 59:53Speaker 2: good my food? Because I follow asleep. All they're doing
- 59:55Speaker 2: dinner service and Red Eyes they don't play. They're like, oh,
- 59:57Speaker 2: you sleep, We can talk to you the whole flight
- 59:59Speaker 2: because we so I'm going to.
- 1:00:01Speaker 4: Get my food.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: They're like, oh my god, I am so sorry. We
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: did not get you your food.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: You're Jada Kiss's girlfriend, right, Data Kiss was sitting behind
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: me and they're like, you're black. You're in this expensive
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: first class Jada must be Jada Kiss's girlfriend.
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: Oh my god, Ja to the Why right?
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: You saw me interact with this man one time. It
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: was very brief and that's your deduction.
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: Wow, that's so funny.
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: I ain't even get it out of my seat. I
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: turned around.
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, right exactly. They do that.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: So they gave him a Tiger's cap and they you know,
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: invited him to take photos. But that wasn't Jerry, it
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: was William. William had called the Tiger's outfielder Gates Brown
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: and this is one You could also get people's numbers
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: so easily.
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: We sent a book of everybod's cell phone number.
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: Couldn't you operator? You're like operator Gates Brown, and they're like, yeah,
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: all right.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: We used to put our addresses in a big ass book.
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: That is crazy.
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: You used to be able to just look and find
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: where somebody lived at.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: And so William had called the Tiger's outfielder Gates Brown
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: and told he was coming to spring training. He also
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: asked to borrow three hundred dollars from Gates when he
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: said he needed to get married what and he would
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: pay him back. Gates bought it, and so did everyone
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: else on the team for at least few days.
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: So he came in and he was like, hey, Gates,
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: I'm getting married. Can you give me three hundred dollars?
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: Wow? Sure, he's he this guy is living off the thrill.
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: He's like, fuck, yeah, bro, I got Gates Brown thinking
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: I'm somebody else. Yeah, ma, let me get three hundred.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: I'm getting married seventy three hundred dollars. Yeah, So seventy
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: three hundred dollars can make some shake.
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: That's probably like what two grand now? Yeah.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: So the Tigers put William and Jerry through a forty
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: minute spring training workout, and the jig was up pretty quickly.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: William didn't know how to grip or throw a baseball
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: bo bill, and he couldn't run sprints.
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: One of the.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Tiger's pictures had seen the Oils play in Texas and
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: he knew Jerry Levias.
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: When it happened William was throwing with his right hand.
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: I would have admitted he wasn't Jerry Lebias because the
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: real identity he gave was also made up, so like,
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: not only is he not Jerry, he's saying he not
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: the other guy he was pretended to be, because the
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: jig was up when he was throwing with his right hand,
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: And that's not how Jerry.
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: That's just even crazy that you're so unathletic too, and
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: you're trying to pretend to be an athlete.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: Here behind all the other baseball players hoofing it.
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: Yeah, up sprint. You don't know how to you can't
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: even fake it, like, ah, I think I pulled some
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: Like you're just like, yeah.
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: It was a pulled hammy.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Also like looking up, everybody can run, And I would
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: assume if you are trying to pretend that you're an athlete,
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: you would at least be, you know, working out a
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: little bit.
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: That's a crazy sport to pretend to, like you got to, like,
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: hitting a baseball is not easy to just again, this
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: guy is addicted to finessing people, and so you end
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: up doing like because he's not. He's not keeping it low,
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: especially when they're like, well, this guy's throwing with the
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: wrong hand. He can't even throw a ball, he can't
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: even run this This man is a usurper.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: He is.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: And mister Grant, you're not getting at three hundred dollars back,
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: I hope you good? No, No, So the Tigers ended
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: up paying ninety three dollars for William to take a
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: first class flight back to Detroit, and the real Jerry
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: Lebias had to get a lawyer involved to help untangle
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: the trouble he was in with the oilers who thought
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: that he was breaking contracts and trying to splitch, like
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: switch sports.
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: So ninety three dollars for a first class flight.
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: Take me back, man, I wish I was. I was
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: never there.
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: Yes, I know, like the racism was worse and everything.
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: It's still bad now, you know what I mean. So
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: at least I'll be able to afford a home.
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: At least you'd have your like twenty twenty six mindset.
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: You're like, bro, I can hand your hand of your
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: old spooky ass six.
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: Right, you're not bothering me. I got tons of insults,
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: no long, I've been on TikTok.
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: I can't heard them all back. I can tell you
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: ones you guys haven't even thought up yet. Yes, just
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: so you know.
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: And I'm sorry to Jerry Lebias. You didn't deserve none
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: of this.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, will was sentenced to three years in
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: federal prison for identity theft and mail fraud.
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: He died shortly after his release in twenty twenty.
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: So this is Jerry in his Detroit baseball uniform aka
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: fake Jerry.
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: Right, this is our William. I mean he looks like
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: he could play baseball. He got the outfit on. He's
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: smiling from you, and you're.
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: Like, I got you, bitch, just like yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: He's like, they gave me the whole fucking uniform.
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: Okay, right, no questions asked?
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: What is he haveing on underneath? It's like you got
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: a jacket on underneath. They'm like, bro, he got he
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: layered it with a jacket or something.
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: It's the seventies, so yeah, his afro sticking out the size.
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: I love this for him.
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: Like when I see this picture, I'm like, this guy
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: looks like a real cool guy. And then You're like,
- 1:04:43Speaker 4: this man was addicted to the finesse.
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: Literally, Now, Myles, I want to know out of the
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: three kind of little scam blips that I told you.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: I know we didn't spend much time on de flay Gate,
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: but that's because it's been on the zeitgeist for so long.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: You don't know about it. Well, I guess it was
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: my job to educator you, but I did. They were
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: to play in the footballs and cheating the New England
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: Patriots in twenty fifteen, and Tom Brady took a huge,
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: like social capital hit from that, especially because the Patriots
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: at that time had been dominating football.
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: For so long.
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: He's still to goat, bro, He's still to goat.
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: Right, But I'm still like, how many of them balls
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: do we not catch? Flastic?
- 1:05:14Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: Right, Hey, this couldn't have been It's just like people
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: get a duy. That was your first time drunk driving? No,
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: I know this wasn't the first time.
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: Soft first time you got caught, right.
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: How many of these softballs have we seen?
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna the least scamming to me
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: is Kawhi Leonard's situation. I mean they were cheating by
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: paying him more. I don't think Kawhi is that if
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: you offer me more money, I'm not gonna look a
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: gift for you.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: Think it's immoral for a professional athlete to demand more
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: money from the billionaire owners. I just don't think. And
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: the nature of being an athlete is already exploited.
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: If so, go ahead selling your body.
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not mad like you're You're not fuck.
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: You're not out here exploiting people, you know, as a
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: basketball player like you're the attraction. So yeah, get your fuck.
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: I don't give a funk about that. The only problem
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: is there are rules so that the league can maintain
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: some level level of parody and fairness in terms of
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: how teams are built. So sure you n f oul
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: of that, but I can't fault my guy Kawhi for
- 1:06:14Speaker 4: wanting more money.
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: You gotta put a whole team on his back. People
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: are buying those seats for him.
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah so, And also the coloppers are.
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: Such trash that I can understand how you got in
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: a position like this where you were like, I don't know,
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: we gotta give Kawhi more money because he's.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: Our only he's gonna leave.
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: He's gonna leave, Like we'll give Luke so Loo more money.
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: We're gonna lose the.
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: Force, exactly, Luke Solo, We're gonna lose the Force. And
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: I know every Star Wars fan loved that one. Right now, Okay,
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: Luke Solo hoping we're about to lose the Force.
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: So accurate. It's so accurate.
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: Funny. You know, Luke Solo about to lose the Force.
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: So he is the Force, so they gotta pay him
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: with force elsewhere.
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: That's what that makes it start on those Medchlorians either period.
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: Y'all know.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: I saw that's all Star Wars is, all of them
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: in the galaxy far far away.
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: I know exactly.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: It makes sense when you don't think about it.
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: No, I what the you're talking about?
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: I just love you think it's art.
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: No, I'm not at all. I just you know what
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: you did. You expanded my whole understanding, my consciousness. That's
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: what happened all that to say, yeah, so no, I'm
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: the least offended by.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: That same and then I feel like, obviously the flake
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: Gate your trash. I'm just saying you're the number one scam. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: we're just straight up cheating.
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: Yeah, that's intentional, it's diabolical. You're trying to gain an advantage.
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: Steve Balmer is the bad guy in the Kawhi Leonard story,
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: not Kawhi Leonard.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: Right, taking money, and every day we take money from
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: corporations that are doing absolute evil every you know, all
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: them Amazon packages people get in, people that asking them warehouses.
- 1:07:52Speaker 6: It's like there's so many other teams though, too that
- 1:07:56Speaker 6: do this, except they're like, bro, you do have to
- 1:07:58Speaker 6: pose with the Lexus at least, and then we're going
- 1:08:01Speaker 6: to give you five times when someone would normally pay
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: for an endorsement.
- 1:08:05Speaker 4: That's just how we normally do shit.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: That is such a glaring error here, Like has Steep
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: been doing this for so long that he was like, man, no.
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: Bide pays attention if they actually endorse it. So they
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: just stopped because.
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: When you're a billionaire, you're just so used to doing shit.
- 1:08:17Speaker 4: However the fuck you want to you know what I
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: mean that you're like, what the fuck are they gonna do, Man,
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: I gotta fuck you money and it's like, well they
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: will find me, okay whatever, But and.
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: Also why am I trusting Kawhi Leonard about banking?
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: No, you don't need to. Aspiration got all these other
- 1:08:31Speaker 4: celebrities to do endorsements too, but then none of them
- 1:08:34Speaker 4: were like, yeah, I actually don't know what it is.
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: I just showed up in like a video for it.
- 1:08:37Speaker 4: Because all the.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: Celebs are chilling right now and people have to realize that.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: They're like, don't they make so much money?
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: Aren't they rich?
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: Once you start adjusting to a rich lifestyle, you be
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: surprised how your liquidity can sink, because it's like you
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: went from buying a commercial flight to chartering jets one
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: of those you know, like that can be easy thirty
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: thousand per flight.
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: So and that's on the lore end.
- 1:08:59Speaker 4: So it's lifestyle.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: Not surprising that they're out here selling their booty holes
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: for anything. Once I saw Sarah, Jessica Parker and gaming Ad,
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: I was like, oh we are we have lost a
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: plot And I'm like, what does this have to do
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: with sex and the City babes or anything that you've
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: done in your career.
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: I don't why you know, Reese Witherspoon out here, champion ai, I.
- 1:09:18Speaker 4: Said, maybe doing affiliate links, never done.
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: Nothing would be a scam okay on her ed book
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: or you know. I mean, I didn't know that she
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: was skimming that hard.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: Back in the day, I thought skinny girl cocktails were
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: like a cute thing that I saw in Real Housewives,
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: And I learned that lady has problems all over.
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: Yeah, so the flake gate bums down bad, you're cheating?
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: Fuck you. I don't like whatever that's that. But with
- 1:09:45Speaker 4: our boy, what's his name, Scott, Steve, Steve, what.
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: Are you talking about?
- 1:09:51Speaker 4: William William in person?
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: Now?
- 1:09:53Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, him. I can't get mad at him.
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: Something is wrong with that man. He is in love
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: with the finesse and he can't stop finessing. So and
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: you know what it feels like, aside from Mary the
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: real Jerry Levias, it felt relatively victim free. But at
- 1:10:09Speaker 4: the end, at the end of the day, once they realized,
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: oh this guy was pretending to be you, you actually
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: aren't in any kind of legal trouble. Then whatever, man,
- 1:10:16Speaker 4: get your free Detroit Tiger's uniform, then your ninety three
- 1:10:20Speaker 4: dollars first class flight.
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm the only reason that I'm gonna
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: rank it least the one that I am like the
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: most fine with it's gonna be Kawhi, and then second
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: is gonna be William and his schemes. William, you could
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: have been first and least harmful, but you took three
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: hundred dollars from that baseball player.
- 1:10:38Speaker 4: Man, And so yeah, sir, that was the difference. If
- 1:10:42Speaker 4: he's just taking from big teams, that's one thing. Yeah, man, yeah,
- 1:10:47Speaker 4: yeah for some Hey, let me hold three hundred dollars
- 1:10:49Speaker 4: for my way. Yeah.
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: The holding three hundred puts you at number two, and
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: at number three I'm gonna put the flagg because I'm
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: just straight up cheating.
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: That's like, come on, you're letting the air out of
- 1:10:59Speaker 4: the ball.
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: Not no, no, no, no, no, bed And your team
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: was so strong at the time, or maybe they were
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: strong because of the cheating.
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: I guess we'll never know.
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: No idea. And that's why how to watch the.
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: Wait what do you say about the anisow?
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: And that's why I don't watch the NFL.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Oh okay, I do from time to time, just enough
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: to watch the Cowboys disappoint me.
- 1:11:19Speaker 4: Everyone needs some kind of humiliation ritual, you know what
- 1:11:21Speaker 4: I mean.
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: Yeah, that's mine for sure.
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: I like to get my hopes up when they're actually
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: playing well in the main season, and then when they
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: get to playoffs, you know.
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: I love to have hope and then watch them completely
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: destroy it.
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's great with Arsenal.
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: But we won this year finally, so I'm feeling good.
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations, thank you so much, thank you so much.
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: So Yes that perhaps a.
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- 1:13:00Speaker 2: there and stay winning. Okay, if you're gonna play, play
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: to win, even if you shouldn't be playing because you're
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: not an athlete.
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: You know, even if you got a deflat the ball,
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: you don't let that stop you. Even if you even if.
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: You got to make up a fake endorsement deals. I
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: think about Kawhi automatically.
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: He's the one I think about.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I ride up out the app selling
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: or the celebrity selling random ships. I was like, why
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: are y'all now selling stuff that has nothing to do
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: with your expertise, career or field.
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: Why should I trust you?
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: I don't know. These other scammers are paying me for
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: their scam business.
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: If you don't take your ass back down to the.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: MGM or Fix or Sony and do another movie about
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: a woman who lives in a successful job but she
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: lowly is fucking New York City and then she go
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: home and then she going to get a Christmas tree
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: with her mama and it falls off her and her
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: high school booth thang picks it up, and then they
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: fall in love and then she move over there, girl,
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: go do some of those stop trying to push a
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: eye on us, you know, get yall sweet Hell Alabama
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: ass back to what you've done.
- 1:14:11Speaker 4: Yeah, she loves that shit, though she's alway at the
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: kind of you was pushing NFTs.
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: Too, Ni, get off these scam train Reese, I love you.
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: You gonna throw that blonde wig back on and give
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: us some legally.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: And on that note, uh huh, got grays, y'all have
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