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Chuck & Buck 11-5 Hour 2: 12th man news with Gregg Bell, it's decision time and let's get Reckless at Breakfast! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Riding irish of Notre Dame.
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Speaker 2: Two losses first two games of the season, one on
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Speaker 2: the literal last play of the game, the other on
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Speaker 2: the virtual last play of the game after missing an
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Speaker 2: extra point, and they're getting some respect because of how
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Speaker 2: they played and probably outtiped those losses and the way
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Speaker 2: they look now they look like a dominant football team
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Speaker 2: running you see out with Stanton, etc.
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Speaker 3: They could probably point to, well, hey, they were out
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Speaker 3: some guys, they didn't know who they were new DC
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Speaker 3: and now all those players and coaches that are in
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Speaker 3: the rumor saying, look how they're playing now eight games
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Speaker 3: into the eight games later, they are completely different.
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Speaker 1: Unail outs out of the ball.
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Speaker 2: Number nine, the Oregon Ducks. Now, this is a team
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Speaker 2: I was really interested to see because while they had
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Speaker 2: the loss to Indiana in a great game in Eugene,
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Speaker 2: not a lot of other things on their resume, overtime
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Speaker 2: against Penn State, which at the time looked like a
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Speaker 2: pretty good win, but now since it does not look
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Speaker 2: great they went overtime with Penn State.
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Speaker 3: I think everybody ignore is the firepower and there's no
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Speaker 3: one that denies the ceiling that Oregon has on their
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Speaker 3: best day. We sought against Rutgers, but right now their
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Speaker 3: best wins against a five and three Northwestern team.
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Speaker 1: And that's noticed. Oh, some of the chatter last night
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Speaker 1: from the college football rankings, the first ones that came out.
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Speaker 1: Of course, they really do mean nothing. It's just to
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Speaker 1: give you a fun gauge of the temperature of the water.
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Speaker 4: I think these mean more than preseason polls.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 1: They absolutely mean more than preseason polls. And so we
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Speaker 1: know that Ohio State right now, according to the committee,
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Speaker 1: is the number one ranked team, the team to chase
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Speaker 1: Indiana's number two, an m number three in Alabama number four.
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Speaker 1: Of course, you heard some of the chatter about the
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Speaker 1: bigger surprises. Notre Dame entered at number ten, not a surprise,
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Speaker 1: but it was very intriguing to see where the committee
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Speaker 1: would start them in this process. Byu number seven with
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Speaker 1: their undefeated record, and they will face Texas Tech this weekend,
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Speaker 1: who's number eight, and then Oregon all the way down
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Speaker 1: to number nine. And yeah, everything they said about the
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Speaker 1: Oregon Duck resume we discussed at six thirty true, true,
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Speaker 1: not picking on our rivals down south, it's just the
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Speaker 1: absolute truth. And now we're going off of actual information,
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Speaker 1: resume strength, and not just who looks better on paper.
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Speaker 1: That's the idea behind waiting till week number ten to
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Speaker 1: dive into college football playoff rankings. And so we got
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Speaker 1: our first show yesterday. There'll be a second one Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: The only one that matters is the final one. Let's
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Speaker 1: take a look at the rest of your headlines here
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Speaker 1: Perhaps he just enters into free agency and takes the
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Speaker 1: later on in the show Cracking or back in action
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Speaker 1: tonight against the Sharks. Al Kiniski will join us today
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Speaker 1: play their third and final match of their first round
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Speaker 1: MLS series until Sunday. Of course, that series is even
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Speaker 1: at a match a piece. Huskies will take on the
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Badgers this Saturday, so after a bye, they're back
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Speaker 1: in action against the lowly that's very surprising to say,
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Speaker 1: lowly Wisconsin Badgers. Cam Cleveland will join us today at
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Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Tomorrow, the new week of the National Football
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Speaker 1: League season gets started with the Vegas Raiders and the
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos in Colorado. And it is hump Day, so
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Speaker 1: we start to dive into the and the Cardinals more
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Speaker 1: thoroughly today, and of course the Seahawks will have Reek
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Speaker 1: Woollen and boy a Mate still on the roster. We
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Speaker 1: know that the Cardinals are going to start Jacoby Brissett
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Speaker 1: and not Kyler Murray in the game on Sunday. And
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Speaker 1: we also know that the trade deadline is over and
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks did not part with anyone. They added somebody
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Speaker 1: at the deadline in Rashid Shahed. Time to talk about
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Speaker 1: him and all of these topics with our Seahawks insider
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell. All right, well, a lot to discuss here today. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he didn't fail us. John Schneider gave you something to
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Speaker 1: write about yesterday. Uh, he pulled off a trade for
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Speaker 1: Rashid Shahhed, And there's a there's a who question to
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Speaker 1: ask here, But I think the biggest question is why,
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Speaker 1: why that position, why that player? Uh, when you could
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Speaker 1: have gone in a lot of different directions here at
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Speaker 1: the deadline.
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Speaker 6: Schematics, they've had face. They've been facing stack boxes with
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Speaker 6: the safety down in the box against the run. We've
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Speaker 6: talked about how they run more than anybody in the league,
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Speaker 6: and so defenses are honoring that and they have done that.
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Speaker 6: That they've succeeded in the run game in that regard
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Speaker 6: is that teams play the run against them.
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Speaker 5: And their goal here is to have another.
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Speaker 6: Off take the top off a defense receiver, big play
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Speaker 6: guy when he hits for touchdowns there usually thirty forty
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Speaker 6: yards speedster guy, to send him down the field and
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Speaker 6: stretch the defense out and hopefully entice defenses to play
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Speaker 6: more too high safety coverages and get.
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Speaker 5: That extra guy out of the box so.
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Speaker 6: Then they can run more and oh, by the way,
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Speaker 6: if we can hit big plays for fifty yard touchdowns
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Speaker 6: on the way to doing that even better, that's the
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Speaker 6: thinking here. The fact that he was in Kobeak system
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Speaker 6: with the Saints last year is another factor here. The
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Speaker 6: fact that he's relatively cheap ending his two year contract
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Speaker 6: he got his exclusive rights free agent a couple of
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Speaker 6: years ago is another factor here. He made the All
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Speaker 6: Pro team first Team All Pro in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 6: That was just one year after he was an undrafted
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Speaker 6: rookie free agent at a Weaver State and then he exploded.
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Speaker 5: He was that.
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Speaker 6: He's also done some kickoff return and punt returns. But
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Speaker 6: the scheme of the offense that the Seahawks want to
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Speaker 6: be able to run the ball against fewer people near
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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, and they think this wide receiver
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Speaker 6: throwing deep to him may force defenses to have to
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Speaker 6: put a second safety deep to guard against that. Between
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Speaker 6: Smith and Jigba and Horton and now a deeper threat,
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Speaker 6: we'll see if it works that way. I think that's
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Speaker 6: the thinking here, not just here's a receiver and go
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Speaker 6: get touchdowns for us, but to change how defenses have
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Speaker 6: played Seattle so far.
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Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating move. I know in training camp
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Speaker 1: we talked about who so many times, Who's going to
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Speaker 1: take the lid off of the defense? Who's the deep threat?
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Speaker 1: Well you've got one now, but at what expense? Who's
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Speaker 1: gonna lose time? Is it Horton? Is it Cooper Cup?
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Speaker 1: How are they gonna how are they going to divide
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Speaker 1: this thing up?
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Speaker 6: Well, my first reaction was, this may speak that Cooper
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Speaker 6: Cup's pretty injured and he's going to miss a couple
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Speaker 6: more games. He was dealing with a heel issue heading
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Speaker 6: in the last week, and then during practice last week
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Speaker 6: he got a hamstring injury, so he has two leg issues.
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Speaker 6: He's thirty two years old. Of course, injuries are why
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Speaker 6: the Rams gave up on him a couple of years
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Speaker 6: into his massive contract after being the Super Bowl MVP.
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Speaker 6: So we're seeing glimpses of why the Rams said, we
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Speaker 6: don't want to pay you the top dollar anymore. I'm
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Speaker 6: not saying Cup's done for the year, but this does
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Speaker 6: suggest that they believe Cup is, at least.
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Speaker 5: For now, not a viable option and perhaps might not
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Speaker 5: play the next couple games.
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Speaker 6: Now, I mean this is a half year rental. They're
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Speaker 6: going to try out Shaheed for the next nine games
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Speaker 6: to see if they want to re sign him.
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Speaker 5: And if your second receiver is injured, okay, so be it.
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Speaker 6: Horton's still a developmental project. Yes, two touchdowns against Washington. Yes,
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Speaker 6: he has a kickoff a pump return for a touchdown
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Speaker 6: against the Saints that's set a team record. But he's
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Speaker 6: also had his own injuries, including once after he got
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Speaker 6: to the Seahawks, and then of course the injury of
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Speaker 6: Colorado State knee injury that ended his season early last season.
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Speaker 6: So it's not like there were cruising at wide receiver.
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Speaker 6: Smiths and Jigba masked a lot of issues at wide receiver.
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Speaker 5: But they aren't exactly deep.
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Speaker 6: Now they can have some depth and have enough if
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Speaker 6: teams want a bracket coverage and really devote a lot
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Speaker 6: of attention to Smith and Jigba, as they will with
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Speaker 6: him leading the league in reception receiving yardage. Now they've
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Speaker 6: got a guy that can make defenses pay on doing that.
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Speaker 5: And that's also part of the thinking here.
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insiders, so much
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Speaker 1: to discuss with this football team here today. Of course,
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Speaker 1: coming off the NFL trading deadline. If you want to
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Speaker 1: complete coverage of the Seahawksthewstribune dot Com as that for you. Also,
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Speaker 1: you can follow him at g Bell Seattle there on x.
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Speaker 1: There was talk yesterday that John was working on the
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Speaker 1: scenes on a monster trade for perhaps a defensive player.
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Speaker 1: Did you find out any information on that?
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Speaker 5: Well, he was.
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Speaker 6: He was seeking what teams might give him for boy
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Speaker 6: Mafe and Woolen.
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Speaker 5: He would have loved if the Raiders would have.
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Speaker 6: Been u S offering Max Crosby. That obviously wasn't happening,
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Speaker 6: So he was in on fishing for anything and everything
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Speaker 6: in that regard. But came down to there's a potential,
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Speaker 6: depending on how many free agents they signed coming in
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Speaker 6: this next offseason, that they could get compensation picks for
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Speaker 6: Mafe and Woolan by letting him leave his free agents.
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Speaker 6: And in the meantime they still roll for them. Mafay
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Speaker 6: still a starting edge outside linebacker, and we've seen all
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Speaker 6: the injuries in the defensive secondary that even when they've
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Speaker 6: tried to bench Woolan, they haven't been able to because
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Speaker 6: they've had.
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Speaker 5: To play them.
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Speaker 6: So they are going to be able to keep them
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Speaker 6: engaged by not trading them, and that doesn't mean that
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Speaker 6: they won't just let them walk with the potential getting
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Speaker 6: a fourth fifth round comp pick that would probably be
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Speaker 6: roughly what they gave up to get Shaheit some of
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Speaker 6: the They right now have four draft picks. They have
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Speaker 6: one in each first three rounds next spring, and then
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Speaker 6: a sixth round pick rounds one, two, three, and six,
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Speaker 6: one in each of those.
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Speaker 5: There's no way in hell that John.
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Speaker 6: Schneyder's gonna go into that draft of four picks. Now,
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Speaker 6: the COMPIC formula is not going to matter for next year.
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Speaker 6: It's gonna matter for twenty twenty seven. The receive the
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Speaker 6: free agents that you sign and the free age that
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Speaker 6: you lose for the spring of twenty twenty six applied
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Speaker 6: for the twenty twenty seven draft. So the COMPIC formula
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Speaker 6: is still unsettled for this coming year on whether the
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Speaker 6: NFL is going to grant it. It's a it's not
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Speaker 6: even worth mentioning how compolated that system is, but suffice
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Speaker 6: to say that between trades and potential compicks, the Seahawks
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Speaker 6: are going to have more than those four picks when
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Speaker 6: the draft starts next year, and they think down the road,
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Speaker 6: it's something of the deferred payback they may get between
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Speaker 6: Mafay and Wool and something of the fourth and fifth
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Speaker 6: round picks in twenty twenty seven back that they just
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Speaker 6: gave up in twenty six. We'll see how it all
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Speaker 6: works out. But to the Seahawks thinking, in Schneider's thinking,
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Speaker 6: it's worth getting a game breaking receiver to augment Smith
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Speaker 6: and Jigba, to potentially open up the run game to
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Speaker 6: Prehent potentially re sign for a fourth and third day pick,
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Speaker 6: fourth and fifth round that we can potentially get back
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Speaker 6: the following year. That's kind of the strategical thinking on
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Speaker 6: this trade.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, being a professional athlete seems like a pretty good gig,
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Speaker 1: and I think for the most part, it's a pretty
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Speaker 1: damn good gig. But there is something about their lives
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Speaker 1: that we don't we regulars don't really have to concern
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Speaker 1: ourselves with. At any moment. We can just be told
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Speaker 1: you're going to go work for this company and live
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Speaker 1: in this city, and so, I don't know. Individually, I'm
11:30
Speaker 1: sure some people do recognize that. Some athletes do say, hey,
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Speaker 1: it's a business and I'm prepared for anything, but there's
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Speaker 1: got to be some hurt feelings involved too, So long
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Speaker 1: way of asking, how have Mafe and Woolen handled being
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Speaker 1: involved in trade rumors for now a month.
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Speaker 6: Well, woman is very active on social media. He sees
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Speaker 6: and hears everything, so he's been pretty plugged into all this,
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Speaker 6: and he's been affected in the war and said that
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Speaker 6: he's been a good soldier and it's been easy to
12:03
Speaker 6: keep him engaged again because he's been playing so much.
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Speaker 6: He was going to get benched in week two, but
12:08
Speaker 6: then Witherspoon got hurt in the opener, didn't play in
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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh's Week two and then Wille had to start.
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Speaker 5: He was going to get benched together night. I mean
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Speaker 5: he did not start.
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Speaker 6: He mentioned this. He was the dimeback, the sixth of
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Speaker 6: six defensive backs who played four snaps before Job got
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Speaker 6: his concussion in the second quarter, and then he played
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Speaker 6: the rest of the game basically Wille did. So his
12:28
Speaker 6: snapcounts are still in the ninety plus percents because even
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Speaker 6: when they're trying to sit him, something injuries have happened
12:34
Speaker 6: to need him back, and so he's been able to
12:36
Speaker 6: stay engaged in the game plan. And I'm on the
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Speaker 6: field and Mafe same thing. Like I said, He's remained
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Speaker 6: the starting outside linebacker opposite Derek Hall. He just has
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Speaker 6: not had any production at that spot. And I'd mentioned
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Speaker 6: yesterday I thought that he was potentially a trade candidate
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Speaker 6: because of the position he plays, in the fact he's
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Speaker 6: still on his rookie deal and his production in previous seasons.
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Speaker 6: But the fact that he's still starting doesn't mean he's
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Speaker 6: exactly sulking because he's got a game plan, he's got
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Speaker 6: a team to prepare for, and he's going to go
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Speaker 6: play sixty seventy eighty snaps on Sunday. So in that regard, yes,
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Speaker 6: But to your point, they argue, Man, they're also in
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Speaker 6: their mid twenties. Neither of them that I know of,
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Speaker 6: or married that would have to grab a whole family
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Speaker 6: and move them across the country. So that's not that
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Speaker 6: big of impact as it is for some other players.
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Speaker 6: But Yeah, especially in Wollan's case, he's hurt all of
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Speaker 6: this for sure. And he's been a chip on the
13:30
Speaker 6: shoulder guy anyway, right because he was a former wide
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Speaker 6: receiver at Texas San Antonio that everyone didn't think should
13:35
Speaker 6: be in the NFL as a corner pet Carroll makes
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Speaker 6: him a project and makes him a Pro Bowl guy,
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Speaker 6: as a rookie, as a fifth round pick, so he's
13:43
Speaker 6: used to having a chip on his shoulder. He's carrying that,
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Speaker 6: I'm sure.
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Speaker 1: Craig Bell as with us SARCIAWKS Insider a segment nearly
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Speaker 1: the Delacado family of Wines. All right, so let's talk
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Speaker 1: about the Cardinals at is hump Day. They did make
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Speaker 1: a decision earlier in the week, which is a little
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Speaker 1: interesting in and of its and it's obviously very interesting
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Speaker 1: what the Cardinals are thinking behind the scenes about their
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Speaker 1: quarterback position now and in the future. But also, I mean,
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Speaker 1: these are two different types of quarterbacks to prepare for.
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Speaker 1: Are you a little surprised that Jonathan Gannon announced on
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Speaker 1: a Tuesday who's starting Sunday?
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Speaker 5: A little bit? But then I look back and I
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Speaker 5: saw what the context was. One. Gannon wants his.
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Speaker 6: Team clear coming off a short week. I mean, they
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Speaker 6: got back from Dallas early Tuesday morning, from that wind
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Speaker 6: Monday night, and now they're headed right to Seattle on Saturday.
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Speaker 6: So he wanted them to be clear on who their
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Speaker 6: quarterback is. And then after he announced Brissette as the
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Speaker 6: quarterback on Sunday against the Seahaux. He then went on
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Speaker 6: to infer that Murray is not healthy yet and it
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Speaker 6: would be a while before he's going to be able
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Speaker 6: to return. And reports have since come out of Phoenix
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Speaker 6: that Murray could miss another two or three or four
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Speaker 6: games with his injuries, so a foot injury. So that
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Speaker 6: puts some more context into why Brissette was the clear
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Speaker 6: choice so early in the week. Murray is still the
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Speaker 6: leading rusher for the Cardinals and that's a problem. And
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Speaker 6: he's missed the left well, he missed this pass game,
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Speaker 6: He's going to miss the next few. He only has
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Speaker 6: one hundred and seventy three yards rushing for the season,
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Speaker 6: and that leads the team. And if you want to
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Speaker 6: see what's wrong with Arizona, they'd start there. Arizona had
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Speaker 6: lost five in a row until that Monday night game
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Speaker 6: against the Cowboys, when Brissett led him to victory and
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Speaker 6: rather easily, twenty seven to seventeen. But before that they'd
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Speaker 6: lost a narrow one point game they should have won
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Speaker 6: at San Francisco.
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Speaker 5: They blew it at the end.
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Speaker 6: The Seahawks beat him down in the desert on the
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Speaker 6: final play after the Seiks and explicitly led him back
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Speaker 6: into a twenty to six game at the end. The
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Speaker 6: Seahorks really dominated most of that game, as we remember.
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Speaker 6: Then they lost by one point to the Titans, four
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Speaker 6: points at the Colts.
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Speaker 5: Who've been rolling until the Steelers.
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Speaker 6: Beat him the other day, and then four points they
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Speaker 6: lost to the Packers at the end. So they lost
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Speaker 6: five in a row by like all four points are fewer.
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Speaker 6: That's been really frustrating. But when I look at them
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Speaker 6: statistically and how I know Gannon wants to play. Their
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Speaker 6: run game is the biggest problem day. Mercado has become
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Speaker 6: their number one back. They've had injuries. Of course, Connor's
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Speaker 6: out for the season that was supposed to be their
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Speaker 6: number one back. Brissett needs a run game. Any quarterback does.
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Speaker 6: But they're gonna I don't know that they'll try again.
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Speaker 6: Teams are Seattle's reputation on defense starting to precede them
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Speaker 6: as the number one rush defense, and teams are not
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Speaker 6: even trying. The Commanders couldn't even try because they were
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Speaker 6: down twenty eight to nothing in the second quarter. There
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Speaker 6: that I but Arizona needs to start running the ball
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Speaker 6: to be more competitive and consistent. And start winning some
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Speaker 6: of these games they're losing by a few points. That
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Speaker 6: is job won for Seattle. Keeps the Cardinals the way
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Speaker 6: they've been, one dimensional, no run game and go get Brissett.
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Speaker 6: And I mentioned yesterday Leonard Williams and friends, they get
16:45
Speaker 6: to rush differently Jacoby Brissett than they would have Kayler Murray.
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Speaker 6: When they prepare for Murray, they got to rush outside in.
16:51
Speaker 6: They got to worry about contain and pass rush discipline.
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Speaker 6: They can't run straight up the field because Murray will
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Speaker 6: run outside of them. Not so with this cat is
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Speaker 6: more of a pocket guy.
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Speaker 5: And that's what Leonard.
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Speaker 6: Williams and the Marcus Lawrence and those guys love. And
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Speaker 6: when you asked me yesterday who they'd rather face, absolutely
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Speaker 6: the pass rusher. I'd rather face a guy who's going
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Speaker 6: to stay in the pocket that they can just run
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Speaker 6: up the field and go get Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right, last minute, and you probably need some time
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Speaker 1: to dig around on this question, but I'm going to
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Speaker 1: ask it anyway. How much should sit is Shaheed going
17:22
Speaker 1: to play on Sunday? And will he play special teams?
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Speaker 6: I expect him to be the number two receiver. My
17:30
Speaker 6: guess is the Cup is probably not going to practice today,
17:33
Speaker 6: and my guess this cup is the Seahawks are seeing
17:35
Speaker 6: him is maybe not playing. We'll find out more this week,
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Speaker 6: but the trade pretends that he Heat is going to
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Speaker 6: be right in the middle of it right away. He
17:44
Speaker 6: just played five catches the other day on nine targets
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Speaker 6: for the Saints and their loss to the Rams, so
17:49
Speaker 6: he's right in regular stride of plan. No injury concerns,
17:53
Speaker 6: although he did have a knee injury that ended the
17:55
Speaker 6: season after six games last year. So special team is
17:58
Speaker 6: a good question because Horton has been their hunt returner
18:01
Speaker 6: and they've split between Dreek Young, who's now injured, and
18:03
Speaker 6: others George Hallani.
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Speaker 5: As a kickoff returner. She Heat has done both and.
18:07
Speaker 6: That is one of my questions I'll have today on
18:09
Speaker 6: exactly what he's going to do in special teams in returns.
18:12
Speaker 1: Oh, never a dull moment with this team, that's for sure.
18:14
Speaker 5: No, that couldn't be.
18:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes it better, be better than being eighty.
18:20
Speaker 1: I love it. Ever since I came to town. There's
18:23
Speaker 1: always something something. This is this organization stirs up.
18:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Well, good job being solid. I thought Bucky
18:30
Speaker 5: was not.
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Speaker 6: Coming because he was just in the morning that they
18:33
Speaker 6: don't have Mitch Garver to kick around anymore.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, that and Oregon's being underrated and all sorts of things. Yeah,
18:40
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think there are a lot of
18:41
Speaker 1: reasons for him to concoct the tree fell on my
18:44
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Speaker 5: Retrieved.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a ventriloquist.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's an impersonator.
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Speaker 7: Oh impersonator.
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Speaker 1: that's why it's amazing to see. Huh So check it out. Mariners. Man,
22:36
Speaker 1: they had some easy They've got some difficult decisions to
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Speaker 1: make this off season. I think, kind of fewer than
22:43
Speaker 1: what they normally have. But they have some difficult decisions ahead,
22:48
Speaker 1: some things that we'll talk about a little bit later
22:50
Speaker 1: on in the show. But they also had some easy
22:51
Speaker 1: decisions to make coming out of the box here. Yeah,
22:55
Speaker 1: and one of them was not to bring back Mitch
22:58
Speaker 1: Garver and I don't want to pile on Mitch garb
23:00
Speaker 1: but he had an option, and that was pretty clear
23:02
Speaker 1: that they weren't going to bring him back. And there
23:03
Speaker 1: were actually some people worried that they were going to
23:06
Speaker 1: do that. And I just shouldn't have to talk to
23:08
Speaker 1: you off that ledge. No, that one was obvious. They
23:11
Speaker 1: have to give him a million dollar buyout. But no,
23:13
Speaker 1: Mitch Garver will not be back with his team. I
23:15
Speaker 1: mean maybe at league minimum if you just behind the scenes,
23:19
Speaker 1: really they love him, I don't know, but no, never,
23:22
Speaker 1: not at that salary. Never ever everpen No.
23:25
Speaker 4: And if you thought that that was actually going to happen,
23:27
Speaker 4: you put yourself in that position of just trying to
23:29
Speaker 4: find something to worry about.
23:31
Speaker 7: There's plenty of other things to worry.
23:32
Speaker 1: About exactly, like a tree falling.
23:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, truck and now you've got to carve out a
23:37
Speaker 4: car sized hole so you can get.
23:39
Speaker 1: Out so your children can go to school. That's something
23:41
Speaker 1: to worry about. Now. Andre's Munnos also another easy decision.
23:46
Speaker 1: He had a seven million dollar club option that they
23:49
Speaker 1: could have picked up. I mean, he has established himself
23:52
Speaker 1: as one of the best closers in baseball. I mean,
23:55
Speaker 1: how upset were we that he wasn't in the game. Yeah,
23:58
Speaker 1: and that pivotal moment, So that was a no brainer. Plus,
24:02
Speaker 1: he's just one of the sweetest people you'll ever be around.
24:05
Speaker 4: I just adore him and I love that he's like
24:07
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24:10
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Speaker 7: I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So he'll be back next year at a pay raise,
24:18
Speaker 1: by the way, which crunches other things. Hora Polanco is
24:23
Speaker 1: the other decision, and they do have until tomorrow to
24:26
Speaker 1: figure out whether or not they're going to be picking
24:28
Speaker 1: up options. And some options are team options, and some
24:31
Speaker 1: options are player options like Trevor Story picked up with Boston,
24:35
Speaker 1: and some are mutual options with Hora. He has a
24:37
Speaker 1: mutual option of six million dollars. Of course, the Mariners
24:41
Speaker 1: want to pick up Hora Polanco what we saw this
24:43
Speaker 1: year out of him at six million dollars, but there's
24:45
Speaker 1: no way that Hora's agent is going to allow that
24:48
Speaker 1: to happen. So it's not going to be picked up.
24:50
Speaker 1: But maybe there because we haven't heard that it has
24:54
Speaker 1: been shot down yet, because we don't have that information.
24:57
Speaker 1: At least I don't think we have that information.
24:59
Speaker 7: I haven't seen it.
25:00
Speaker 1: Then maybe they are working on something. Maybe there is
25:04
Speaker 1: a situation here where they're going to work on maybe
25:07
Speaker 1: a two year extension and get that salary up to
25:09
Speaker 1: about twelve thirteen million dollars a year, which is going
25:13
Speaker 1: to be Polonko's value. And in case you're wondering if
25:16
Speaker 1: there are no one left in the sport that actually
25:19
Speaker 1: will sign because they just really like where they are,
25:23
Speaker 1: Shane Bieber re signed with the Toronto Blue Jays. He
25:26
Speaker 1: could have hit the market and got a lot more money.
25:28
Speaker 1: Now it's not just because I love Toronto. He's also
25:31
Speaker 1: coming off an injury. He wants to establish himself for
25:34
Speaker 1: one more year before he truly hits the free agent market.
25:37
Speaker 1: He wants to prove to everybody I'm still one of
25:39
Speaker 1: the best pitchers in the world. I'm Cy Young caliber,
25:41
Speaker 1: because that means a much bigger deal. But he did
25:44
Speaker 1: make the decision. But while I'm trying to re establish myself,
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Speaker 1: I really like it here in Toronto. Going to the
25:50
Speaker 1: World Series is fun, ye, and so I'm going to
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Speaker 1: re establish myself for that one year in a Blue
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Speaker 1: Jays uniform. So it does happen that you are with
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and I understand that.
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Speaker 1: Also.
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Speaker 4: I did see something from Buster only right, that's Buster
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's talk about that's something.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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26:21
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Speaker 1: Chucking Buck in the morning. And it is my pick
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Speaker 4: Who's Thursday Night Denver and the Raiders.
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Speaker 7: Someone did take this? Denvers nine and a half.
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27:52
Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Raiders. Bo Nix and the Broncos
27:55
Speaker 1: offense still isn't clicking, and that Denver defense is one
27:58
Speaker 1: of the best in the National Football and so I'm expecting,
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28:21
Speaker 1: to ten. So go ahead and give me the under
28:24
Speaker 1: forty two and a half tomorrow on the Broncos Raiders
28:28
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would not feel comfortable taking the over on
28:32
Speaker 4: that one. It's Denver's too weird this year. They do
28:36
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28:38
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28:41
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Speaker 1: get a little Reckless at Breakfast regarding the quarterback that
30:23
Speaker 1: we'll be facing this weekend. It is going to be
30:26
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett and not Kyler Murray. And there are people
30:30
Speaker 1: in Arizona that are reporting that do it for a
30:34
Speaker 1: living that aren't just people with faceless cowards tweeting on
30:38
Speaker 1: the internet. These are people that actually cover this team.
30:41
Speaker 1: They use their names, yeah, use their real names, and
30:44
Speaker 1: real info and if they're wrong, they could get in
30:46
Speaker 1: trouble for it kind of stuff. And there's this feeling
30:50
Speaker 1: that maybe Kyler Murray has started his last game with
30:53
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Now there are some rumors out there,
30:57
Speaker 1: you know, suggesting that well more than Jonathan Gannon, straight
31:01
Speaker 1: from his lips said he's just not healthy enough to go.
31:03
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray said that last week to Laura Rutledge on
31:08
Speaker 1: the sidelines, that the foot's just not right and I
31:11
Speaker 1: just can't play until the foot is right. So there's
31:15
Speaker 1: enough evidence there to suggest that this is on its face,
31:18
Speaker 1: just Kyler Murray's not healthy enough to play right now,
31:21
Speaker 1: and Jacoby Brissett's playing pretty well, so you might as
31:24
Speaker 1: well go with the healthy guy that's playing pretty well.
31:26
Speaker 1: But there's that underlying story out there that suggests that
31:30
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is not much of a leader, that he
31:34
Speaker 1: obviously hasn't had the results that the Cardinals are looking for,
31:38
Speaker 1: he hasn't built off the early success that he had
31:41
Speaker 1: in his career and that, and then there's the other
31:45
Speaker 1: aspect of, you know, it's been a really bad year
31:49
Speaker 1: for small quarterbacks and maybe this you know, experimentation that
31:54
Speaker 1: has taken place this last five years. This where Russell
31:58
Speaker 1: Wilson kind of okee down the walls and allowed for
32:02
Speaker 1: shorter quarterbacks to be taken, and so people started gravitating
32:06
Speaker 1: towards I mean, we had two of them under six
32:08
Speaker 1: feet tall that have been taken with the number one
32:10
Speaker 1: overall pick. I mean that's not something that a lot
32:14
Speaker 1: of people said thought we would ever see. And yet
32:17
Speaker 1: the struggles of Murray and tongue of Iiloa and Bryce
32:21
Speaker 1: Young and Dylan Gabriel and some others, it's not been
32:26
Speaker 1: a good year if you're a short quarterback. Daman Williams
32:30
Speaker 1: junior for getting the attention of NFL teams. We might
32:33
Speaker 1: see a tick back toward going with the more large
32:38
Speaker 1: six foot four proto type of quarterbacks. And so maybe
32:42
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are done with the experiment, and I'm not
32:45
Speaker 1: sure that we've seen much different. I mean, there might
32:48
Speaker 1: be a reason why Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison showed
32:54
Speaker 1: out on Sunday night because Jacoby Brissett's tall enough to
32:57
Speaker 1: see over his offensive line and can go over the middle. Yeah,
33:01
Speaker 1: it was an issue with Russ while he was here,
33:03
Speaker 1: and even though he was fantastic while he was here,
33:06
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray's been fantastic at times of the Arizona Cardinals.
33:10
Speaker 1: It could be we could be facing the end of
33:13
Speaker 1: this trend of we don't really care how tall you
33:16
Speaker 1: are because you make plays. And we're seeing quarterbacks today
33:20
Speaker 1: make as many plays with their legs as they are
33:22
Speaker 1: with their arms. We might be done with that era.
33:25
Speaker 1: It might be coming to a crashing Holt and maybe
33:27
Speaker 1: not completely knocked into the dust by the idea of
33:30
Speaker 1: taking five 'ot nine inch quarterbacks with the number one
33:34
Speaker 1: overall selection. Those days might certainly be over, and it
33:38
Speaker 1: sounds like the Arizona Cardinals might very well be out
33:42
Speaker 1: of the Kyler Murray business.
33:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that doesn't surprise me at all, considering they
33:45
Speaker 4: have had multiple issues with him in the past off
33:47
Speaker 4: the field issues just you know, not being mature enough.
33:51
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like to handle the reality that he
33:54
Speaker 4: is supposed to be the leader of the team he
33:56
Speaker 4: is on and he doesn't seem capable of that. And
33:59
Speaker 4: then as far as the injury goes, I mean, it
34:01
Speaker 4: makes sense he's you know, if your foot's hurt, you're
34:03
Speaker 4: not going to be a scrambling quarterback, and then if
34:05
Speaker 4: you're short, you're not going to be much good just
34:07
Speaker 4: hanging out there in the pocket. So I don't see
34:11
Speaker 4: really a reason why they would keep him.
34:13
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there is the element of trying to
34:17
Speaker 1: find a partner. I mean, we're seeing now in the
34:20
Speaker 1: National Football League that we rather cut bait than hold
34:23
Speaker 1: on to something that we don't think is working. And
34:27
Speaker 1: I like that. I think that's progress. I think that's
34:29
Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. Why would you just
34:32
Speaker 1: if you know it's not working, you just take like
34:35
Speaker 1: Denver did, just take the financial hit, try to find
34:38
Speaker 1: your next quarterback, try to live with lower cap space.
34:43
Speaker 1: And look what the Broncos have done since they got
34:46
Speaker 1: rid of Russell Wilson. They've just gotten better every single year.
34:49
Speaker 1: And now they're sitting there with seven and two and
34:51
Speaker 1: looks like they had the quarterback of their future. I mean,
34:54
Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals started this. Kyler Murray started this.
34:57
Speaker 1: I mean it was Josh Rosen. We spent a time
35:00
Speaker 1: ten pick. Once upon a time, you would have played
35:02
Speaker 1: that out to the bloody end. Yeah, and then they're like, no,
35:06
Speaker 1: we got the number one pick in the draft because
35:08
Speaker 1: that Rosen guy. Partly he's not very good, so let's
35:11
Speaker 1: not blow that. Let's get a quarterback at number one.
35:14
Speaker 1: Then they took Kyler Murray in that situation, But they
35:18
Speaker 1: are now facing it on the other end, and I
35:21
Speaker 1: do believe they'll punt, and I think they'll try to
35:23
Speaker 1: find a buyer, and I don't think it's an impossible
35:25
Speaker 1: situation to find a buyer this offseason. The quarterback class
35:30
Speaker 1: is not bad, but I don't think that it's earth
35:33
Speaker 1: changing this upcoming NFL draft. A lot of the guys
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Speaker 1: that were expected to go high Club Nix and Nuss
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Speaker 1: Meyers and others have had bad seasons. And not everybody's
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Speaker 1: gonna end up getting the franchise quarterback of their eye
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Speaker 1: in this upcoming NFL draft. And yet there will be
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Speaker 1: several teams that are going to need quarterbacks this offseason.
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if a Cleveland or a New
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Speaker 1: Orleans or a New York tried to roll the dice
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Speaker 1: on Kyle Murray. And because there is enough good quarterback
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Speaker 1: play there that if he gets to a different franchise,
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Speaker 1: into a different system, maybe that coach coordinator, quarterback coach
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Speaker 1: can tap into something and still save Kyler Murray's career.
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Speaker 1: But it's feeling very much to me like his time
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Speaker 1: in Arizona is going to be over at the end
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Speaker 1: of this year, and it might very well be over
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Speaker 1: right now. He might have started his last game as
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Speaker 1: Cardinal quarterback.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I that wouldn't surprise me if that is
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Speaker 4: the case. And I would think too, if he ends
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Speaker 4: up on another team to be a backup, they're not
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Speaker 4: relying on him as much to be a leader in
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Speaker 4: that at that point, right, So you're just looking at
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Speaker 4: the skill set that he has versus like, well, can
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Speaker 4: he because you know at that point you're just there
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Speaker 4: to be a backup.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're not taking him as a backup. If you're
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Speaker 1: going to spend the kind of money that it's going
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Speaker 1: to cost to get him, you're not taking him as
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Speaker 1: a backup. I'm saying there's a chance he could still
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Speaker 1: be a starter for a team in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League this offseason. Yeah, I mean it's like a I mean,
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Speaker 1: they have to be their hit, take eat all the money,
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Speaker 1: and then maybe he becomes a backup. But I'm saying
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Speaker 1: there might be a team out there that's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're desperate enough of the quarterback situation that it's not
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Speaker 1: a long term deal. Let's take on Kyler Murray and
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Speaker 1: see if we can salvage his career. All right, Cam
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