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A LARP Rides Off Into the Sunset · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the large ner Draun Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me is always
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  Speaker 1: is the incredibly generous and awesome Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, so much for easing back into things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got we got us a lot of stories
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  Speaker 1: to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this and personal stuff too.
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  Speaker 1: And personal stuff. Yeah. So Jonathan took the brunch of
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  Speaker 1: building this episode because I had what we like to
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  Speaker 1: call our LARP post event drop larp drop. All of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, it's escaping my brain. But basically, there's like
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  Speaker 1: this big emotional crash that you get after you larp,
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  Speaker 1: especially if it's the last game in a campaign or
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  Speaker 1: maybe the last game that you play. Ever, it's the
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  Speaker 1: same kind of thing you guys like con crash. So
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  Speaker 1: I've been dealing with that all week because it's important
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  Speaker 1: to listen to your body when it's saying hey, rust up.
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  Speaker 1: And Jonathan very kindly pulled most of the stories for us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not all of them, but most of them. And
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  Speaker 2: to be clear, usually Ariel does the massive amount of
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  Speaker 2: work for our episodes. So don't be fooled into thinking
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  Speaker 2: like Jonathan's shouldering the burden here. Normally it's Ariel doing
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  Speaker 2: all that.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a darn right slacker.
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  Speaker 2: Well, before we get into we do have a long
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  Speaker 2: awaited return of thirty seconds or less. But before we
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  Speaker 2: jump into that, I thought we could we could spend
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  Speaker 2: a little time talking about stuff, what we've been up to.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll start off by saying that last weekend I
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  Speaker 2: went and saw the Marvels, which is, you know, pretty
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  Speaker 2: miraculous because I don't get out to the theater that
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  Speaker 2: often anymore, but I made a point to go and
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  Speaker 2: see the Marvels. And what you think it was okay.
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  Speaker 1: Worth going out to the theater for?
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  Speaker 2: I think I think so. I mean, there were some
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  Speaker 2: elements that have been plaguing Disney and Marvel for a
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  Speaker 2: while now, you know, like the the bits where occasionally
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  Speaker 2: some of the CGI gets a little wonky. There's one
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  Speaker 2: bit where Captain Marvel it's a clearly CGI Captain Marvel
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  Speaker 2: walking and you probably wouldn't have noticed except for the hair.
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  Speaker 2: The hair just doesn't quite work properly. Like stuff like
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  Speaker 2: that where you're watching it and you're like, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 2: this is like a last generation cut scene from a
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  Speaker 2: video now that kind of stuff, like like again, my
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  Speaker 2: last generation, you're still talking Xbox one. It's not the worst,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not like you sit there and think about
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  Speaker 2: how far we've come technologically with CGI, and it's clear
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  Speaker 2: that the problem here is that you've got you've got
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  Speaker 2: artists who are just under unrealistic deadlines having to turn
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  Speaker 2: this out. And like we've said before, the Marvels got
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  Speaker 2: shifted around in its release schedule. It actually got moved
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  Speaker 2: up and was originally supposed to be later in the year,
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  Speaker 2: so or like maybe even next year, but anyway, it
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  Speaker 2: got moved up, and so that's part of the problem,
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  Speaker 2: I think. But anyway, I had said before I saw
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  Speaker 2: the movie that I suspected you would really need to
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  Speaker 2: see like Captain Marvel, Miss Marvel and Wanda Vision to
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  Speaker 2: understand what was kind of happening. I stand by that,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's that that's the order of importance.
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  Speaker 2: Like Captain Marvel, you almost certainly need to see. Miss
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  Speaker 2: Marvel is really important if you want to know who
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  Speaker 2: the heck Kamala Con is, because you don't get a
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  Speaker 2: whole I mean, you get to know who she is
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  Speaker 2: in the movie, but she just is thrown in there, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then Monica Rambo, you wouldn't understand anything about what
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  Speaker 2: she's saying about where she got her powers or anything
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  Speaker 2: unless you had seen WandaVision. So that's the other big
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  Speaker 2: problem that the movie has in the sense of like,
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  Speaker 2: the more you go see Marvel, the more you feel like,
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  Speaker 2: I need to watch everything they put out or I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be lost. And I don't necessarily have an
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  Speaker 2: interest in watching everything they put out, right, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the stuff I named, I've seen all of those, but
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  Speaker 2: there's still some Marvel stuff out there that I haven't
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  Speaker 2: watched Secret Wars yet. But I can tell you right
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  Speaker 2: now you do not need to have seen Secret Invasion
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  Speaker 2: Secret Invasion, thank you, because Secret Wars is later. I
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  Speaker 2: have not watched Secret Invasion yet, but I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you you don't need to have seen it because as
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  Speaker 2: far as I can tell, there's nothing in Secret Invasion
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  Speaker 2: that really has an impact on the Marvels. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was entertaining. I think it was best when it
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  Speaker 2: was focusing on the three leads. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: weakest when it was focusing on the b story, But uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I also appreciate the fact that it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't three hours long.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only an hour and a half, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere around there. Although honestly, even that hour and
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  Speaker 2: a half, there's a point because whenever they cut away
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  Speaker 2: from the protagonists and they're doing anything else, it made
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  Speaker 2: it drag a little. So even then I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: we must be wrapping up and keep on going, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, no, it's just because I wasn't enjoying
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  Speaker 2: that scene.
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  Speaker 1: Oh goodness. Do you think it hurt that we had
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  Speaker 1: so many friends talk it up so much after seeing it?
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  Speaker 2: Probably? I mean, like, I don't know. I don't put
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of my own reaction in because some
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  Speaker 2: of our friends are super fans beyond my own fandom, right,
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  Speaker 2: and they love these things so much that I already
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  Speaker 2: know their opinion is going to be different from mine,
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  Speaker 2: and that's no shade on them. That's who they are
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  Speaker 2: and that's what they love, and that's fine. But I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't too influenced by that, and I think that helped.
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  Speaker 2: I will say I did think it was very weird
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  Speaker 2: that the bad guy's plot is essentially the plot of Spaceballs.
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  Speaker 1: Do I need to watch Spaceballs before I watch this?
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  Speaker 2: I would recommend you don't watch space Balls before you
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  Speaker 2: watch this, because otherwise you'll be like me and lean
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  Speaker 2: over to the person next to you and say, over
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  Speaker 2: and over again, this is just like space Balls.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. Well, thank you for your honest review.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think out of all the more recent Marvel films,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the stronger ones. Definitely. I definitely
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  Speaker 2: liked it more than Doctor Strange. I liked it more
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  Speaker 2: than ant Man. I liked it more than the Eternals,
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  Speaker 2: definitely liked it more than that. So I think this
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  Speaker 2: one was a decent one. I wouldn't put it in
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  Speaker 2: the top Marvel films. Like, my favorite is still Captain America.
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  Speaker 2: What was the second one? It wasn't Civil War. It
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  Speaker 2: was the one between for the Winter Soldier Captain America,
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  Speaker 2: Winter Soldier. That one I think is still my favorite
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  Speaker 2: Marvel film. But this one is definitely in the upper half.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's good to hear. I'm glad to hear that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And Ariel Lowd you mentioned you kind of had
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  Speaker 2: your crash from the end of a larp. But I
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  Speaker 2: think it would be really nice if we could hear
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  Speaker 2: a bit more about what this larp was and why
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  Speaker 2: it meant so much to you. In past episodes, you've
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  Speaker 2: described it as it was a larp with a sort
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  Speaker 2: of a weird West setting, but maybe you could elaborate
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  Speaker 2: a bit and kind of explain what Calamity was all about.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, so Calamity was a larp that was run by
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  Speaker 1: Rule of three productions. They are a group of people
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  Speaker 1: that I've larped with for oh gosh, twenty years now, often,
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  Speaker 1: I mean not like always, always consistently, and I've done
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  Speaker 1: other LARPs, but this is the group that I always
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  Speaker 1: go back to. And they started seven years ago, this
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  Speaker 1: weird West larp that some people were super into. If
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  Speaker 1: you like Westerns and you like Cathuleian stuff, like this
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  Speaker 1: was your jam and if not, then maybe you would
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  Speaker 1: have Hesitation. And the setting was like late eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 1: I think we started in the eighteen seventies, alternative history,
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  Speaker 1: so Civil War was not about slavery and other stuff,
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  Speaker 1: And they were kind of trying to make a game
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of that player base is older, not
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  Speaker 1: old but older. You know, there are lots of LARPs
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  Speaker 1: where you've got like eighteen year olds, twenty year old,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen year olds that come in and are new to
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  Speaker 1: it and this player base, many of them having we
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  Speaker 1: had new players, but many of us playing for so
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  Speaker 1: many years together, were older, were more seasoned, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them are like, I just don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be in hell grinder field battles where we hit each
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  Speaker 1: other with plumbing supplies all day. So part of I
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  Speaker 1: think the idea, and I'm not the creator, but I
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  Speaker 1: think part of the idea behind the Western was a
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  Speaker 1: chance for us to shoot nerf guns at each other instead,
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  Speaker 1: which is there was There was still physical like melee combat,
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  Speaker 1: but that was fun. And the really interesting thing about
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  Speaker 1: this game is that it had an explosion of players
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning. It had like over one hundred pieces,
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  Speaker 1: which is a lot, and it's a lot to plan for.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody kind of was playing their own own game.
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  Speaker 1: Like you'd find a group of people who had similar
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  Speaker 1: interests or similar character job or similar skill sets, and
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  Speaker 1: you'd all kind of like play your own games. So weird, West,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's just it's seven years we had a
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  Speaker 1: two year break because of the pandemic, so really five
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  Speaker 1: years of gameplay, but so much went on, and as
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  Speaker 1: we all talk about it on Discord because we all
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  Speaker 1: are in the Discord together or many of us a
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  Speaker 1: we're like, man, there were so many stories I didn't
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  Speaker 1: ever know where even happening, because you had like me,
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  Speaker 1: I was a monster hunter, so it was a very
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  Speaker 1: like supernatural kind of a gameplay, but set in the
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  Speaker 1: Old West, so I was like a girl who was
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  Speaker 1: raised in a saloon, so I was I was performer
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  Speaker 1: and then I shot monsters. You had like your Omnions,
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  Speaker 1: which was like the main religion in this game, that
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  Speaker 1: were like it was based off of Egyptian mythology and
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  Speaker 1: so that was interesting, and they would go fight demons
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. You had they'reists who were like Cathulian worshippers
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  Speaker 1: who would do all that kind of like dark magic
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  Speaker 1: y stuff and aligned with unnamed ones. And you had
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  Speaker 1: people who were like Crossroad demon poker magic people. You
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  Speaker 1: had people who were like there was an entire plot
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  Speaker 1: line kind of off of Big Trouble Little China, so
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  Speaker 1: like all different sorts of people, characters, kinds of things.
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  Speaker 1: You could play all into this world where a calamity happened,
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  Speaker 1: a fog rolled over the land, monsters appeared dead, started raising,
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  Speaker 1: and crazy things started happening, and we all come to
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  Speaker 1: Carrying Creek to which was where the game was set
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  Speaker 1: most of the time, to explore these supernatural and weird
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  Speaker 1: things that are happening. After this unexplained fogged rolled in,
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  Speaker 1: and then beyond that there were politics. It was all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of storylines. So yeah, it was just it was
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  Speaker 1: fighting monsters in the Old West and we choot each
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  Speaker 1: other with guns and uh there. It was really cool
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  Speaker 1: because there were skill sets for like I could sing
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  Speaker 1: for five minutes and reset people's abilities or grit or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was. It was a really fun game. And
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  Speaker 1: when I went into it, I was at a place
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  Speaker 1: in my life and my career where I was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit burnt out. I was still working at my
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  Speaker 1: last job, and I was trying to get my acting
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  Speaker 1: career up, and I was like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I will have time to devote to another game, And
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  Speaker 1: so I made a character where I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna sing and I'm going to shoot things and I
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  Speaker 1: don't need to know anything else, and like I thought,
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  Speaker 1: I was not going to get involved. I wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: in with a team of people. I was going in
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  Speaker 1: by myself. I Ariel am socially awkward, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: always make friends right away in group settings, not because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not likable, because I'm shy. And Plot said, don't
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  Speaker 1: worry about it. We got you. They helped. They added
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  Speaker 1: pieces to like my character history that gave her like madness.
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  Speaker 1: You could also for all the crazy things you saw,
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  Speaker 1: like the Cthulian worshippers summoned like a great white worm
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  Speaker 1: at one point that was like this giant construction built
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  Speaker 1: out of hula hoops and tarp that many people piloted
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  Speaker 1: and they had to fight it. Who was really really cool,
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  Speaker 1: Like when you saw things that were upsetting like that,
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  Speaker 1: you'd gain madness and you could get special skills from it,
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  Speaker 1: or you could treat your madness and you'd you know,
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  Speaker 1: not get disadvantages from it or advantages from it. It
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  Speaker 1: was really how you played the game. I'm explaining everything
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  Speaker 1: very poorly. So yeah, Plot helped. I went in. I
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  Speaker 1: fell in love with this character. They listened to all
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  Speaker 1: of my feedback. I got to do everything my character
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do everything the team I found wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: The last game was amazing. And then I came home
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  Speaker 1: and I had to write the end of my character's story,
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  Speaker 1: and I just this. I'm when I started Calamity, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be my last LARP. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have time, I don't have the energy, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: the brain power. I've known these people forever and I
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  Speaker 1: like spending time with them, and I'm sure I will
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  Speaker 1: spend time with them outside of the larp. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to make a point too, But now I'm like, can
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  Speaker 1: I really give this up? But stepping out of the
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  Speaker 1: game for the last time, it was very sad because
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  Speaker 1: I knew it might be my final game. That being said,
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  Speaker 1: if it was my final game of my final campaign,
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  Speaker 1: it was the best possible way to go out. I
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  Speaker 1: loved my story. I love the end, even though my
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  Speaker 1: story made me cry that the end my epilogue is
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  Speaker 1: not entirely happy because it's it's kind of Dean Winchesters.
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  Speaker 1: If you watch Supernatural and so yeah, that's a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of rambling information that you probably have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Anything better about the game than when I started, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't think so, I think. I think, like what I
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  Speaker 2: took away is that, you know, the Weird West is
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  Speaker 2: the genre. The setting is this mysterious place, and it's
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  Speaker 2: set in a time that there's an inflection point and
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  Speaker 2: no one's really sure what that means, and that lots
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  Speaker 2: of characters had their own individual stories. So while there
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  Speaker 2: is like an ongoing arc that's happening, a big, big arc,
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  Speaker 2: your your participation in that big arc might be on
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  Speaker 2: a little side channel, and you may only be slightly
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  Speaker 2: aware of what's going on because you know you're which
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  Speaker 2: is just like the real world, right Like in the
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  Speaker 2: real world, they're big things that are happening, but often
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  Speaker 2: as individuals, we aren't playing a pivotal role in the
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  Speaker 2: big things that are happening. We're still living out our
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  Speaker 2: lives and we're still doing important stuff, especially important to
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  Speaker 2: our own individual you know, livelihoods or whatever. So I
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  Speaker 2: think you did a good job. And I'll say this, like,
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  Speaker 2: I was really tempted to make a character back when this,
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  Speaker 2: when this was still just in the conceptual phase and
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  Speaker 2: I was aware of it. I really was tempted to
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  Speaker 2: make a character, so much so that I even bought
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  Speaker 2: a couple of costume pieces that I still have that
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  Speaker 2: I was going to do like a snake oil salesman,
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  Speaker 2: sort of huckster con man kind of character, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe some overlap with Gambler, and I just thought it
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  Speaker 2: would be kind of a fun little role playing experience,
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  Speaker 2: and it turned out I just didn't have the time
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  Speaker 2: to be able to do it, so I ultimately did
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  Speaker 2: not play a part in this game. But I would
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  Speaker 2: occasionally get to see things like photos from games and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The thing I loved was seeing how people would modify
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  Speaker 2: NERF guns to make it look like they were these weird,
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  Speaker 2: steampunky Old West kind of guns, and there were some
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  Speaker 2: really creative folks who are working on that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I just like how neat that was. It was just
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  Speaker 2: really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I part of the reason I like this group
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  Speaker 1: is because of the level of commitment they put into costume,
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  Speaker 1: they put into props, they put into set pieces, they
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  Speaker 1: put into the immersion of it all. Because you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you watch a documentary or LARPing or a movie
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  Speaker 1: about it or whatever, you're not in there, you're not immersed,
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  Speaker 1: you're not involved in creating the story. So it looks
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  Speaker 1: kind of dorky, but when you're in there, it's really wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, they made a whole freaking mummy that people
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  Speaker 1: could dissect at one point in time. It was brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: People worked long and hard. A lot of people for
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  Speaker 1: this game are actually making like shadow boxes of their
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  Speaker 1: props and important little pieces and bits that they got
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  Speaker 1: throughout the game, which is really nice. I got a
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  Speaker 1: holy Weapon to fight with the Omniums because that's the
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  Speaker 1: way my character life went, kind of like the Cult
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  Speaker 1: from Supernatural, but it's a giant frickin' NERF rif modded
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  Speaker 1: NERF rifle, so I can't really fit that into a
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  Speaker 1: shadow box. Still trying to figure out what to.
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  Speaker 2: Do overarching, you got to have a place that has
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  Speaker 2: a fireplace and then you mounted above the.
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  Speaker 1: Like generally I'm not into guns, but I put a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work into like my two little revolvers that
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  Speaker 1: I started off with. I motded those myself and it
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  Speaker 1: was fun and it was good and it was rewarding,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to keep these things because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time and effort has been put into them and
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  Speaker 1: they're fun and hey, I can shoot NERF darts at people.
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  Speaker 1: The overarching story each year was like we would fight
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  Speaker 1: a different basically Horseman of the Apocalypse, so wore pestilence, hunger, death,
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  Speaker 1: so that was like kind of the over overarching bad guys. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think you would have really enjoyed it. It was
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  Speaker 1: really wonderful. A lot of the people involved are people
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  Speaker 1: who are writers, prop makers, set construction people, actors, dancers, like, yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: it's just this game went above and beyond. They built
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: an entire saloon that they put into the mess hall
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: of the group camp each in every game, with a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: bar and a player piano and all sorts of stuff,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: edison lights, just the works. A lot of effort was
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: put into this game and it showed, and it was
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: from everybody, and it was just a really wonderful experience
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm very glad I got to have and I'm
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: starting to like tear up again.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm really glad that it lived up to its
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: potential because so often you will get involved in a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: big project like this and the realization of the idea
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: might short of what you had originally planned. And it's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: not necessarily anyone's fault, it's just sometimes it's so hard
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to achieve the vision that it just doesn't happen. It
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: sounds to me like this one really did a great
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: job of realizing the vision, and that is you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: that is something to really celebrate because again, like I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: can't tell you how many times I started off really
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: excited about a project and then by the time the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: project came to life, I'm like, ye, this is not
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: what I was hoping. Like now I kind of regret
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: being involved because it didn't turn out the way I
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: wanted it to, which is a terrible perspective, but it
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: does happen to me quite a bit. But yeah, I
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: love hearing stories like this, Like it's so it's so
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: rewarding just knowing that this group of people were able
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to tell this big, collective story that had a lot
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: of meaning to a lot of folks, and that it
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: came to a really satisfying conclusion.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was just brilliant. I really look forward
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: to seeing what all of the people involved do in
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the future, whether it's LARPing or something else, because so
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: many of them are creative people and they just are
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: constantly putting amazing works of art and creativity into the world.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We did have so some of our players and some
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: of our plot members when I started LARPing with them,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: had children early in my Lark career, maybe not in theirs.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Those children started playing Calamity at an early age, which
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Calamity was an adult game. It was made for adults.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a wild West. You have saloon girls
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and Kathulian gods and things like that. But because they
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: were raised by their parents, who were also working or
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: playing the game, they were able to watch their kids.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Those kids ended up by the end of the campaign
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: writing and running stories and just brilliant creative people themselves.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And that also, I mean, they're not kids anymore. They're
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: all off at college now, but they all came back
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of games. But that also has
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: been so cool to watch and so cool to be
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a part of. So special props to them. I don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: think they listen to this show, but special props to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: them because they're super super awesome. Yeah, And so like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it's kind of the the crash I'm having is the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: same sort of thing you have to have after convention.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You just need to like eat and tell yourself it's temporary,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and find similar people to talk to and rest and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: get back to your normal habits and it's great. Tangentially,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: one of the awesome people who I larp with Katie Downey.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: A lot of the a lot of the awesome people
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that I lark with have been mentioned on the show,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: but Katie Downey is getting mentioned because one, she posted
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the article on how to deal with post con larp
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: drop and it's super helpful. And two I found out
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that she does the D four D and D live
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: stream each week on Sunday nights, which is really cool.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: She's really good. Her character is becoming like Wizard of
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the Coast Cannon. That's awesome, is getting released as Wizards
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of the Coast Cannon. Yeah. I think it's super cool.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: She's awesome. She does a ton of live streams. If
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you like that sort of thing, you should check her out.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to always show my friends, but when
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: they're doing really amazing things, I'm definitely going to call
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: them out because they're awesome.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: That's great. Wow, I'm so glad you were able to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: share that. We weren't sure if Ariel was going to
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: be able to share that, because I mean, look like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I really think when you conclude something like this, you
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: actually do go through a sort of grieving process. It's
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: not that dissimilar. Like the things I equate it to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: are when you are part of like a really strong
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: cast for a play, right and you've gone through a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: full production of the play, and then the show's over
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and now that family you've created breaks apart, and or
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I think about the Georgia Renaissance Festival. For some of
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the really strong years of cast, it wasn't always true,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: which is kind of unfortunate. But on the really good years,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: like on that last day, you might sing a song
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: like here's a health to the company, which actually has
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the line we may or might never all meet here again,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and that line has a really powerful hit to it
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: because it's true. The next season you're gonna they're not.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Everyone comes back, New people come on and it's a
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: new family, and sometimes that new family has its own
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: kind of special place in your heart. Sometimes it doesn't,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: which is really sad, But it's one of those things.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: You go through this, this this feeling, this series of feelings,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: and it's really meaningful. Like I get that there are
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of jokes around LARPing that again, like you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: were saying, Ariel from the outside, it might look silly
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: or dorky or whatever, but for the people who are
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: part of this, who are telling stories, I mean, storytelling
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: is a central part of the human experience. It's how
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: we contextualize everything in our lives. We do it by
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: organizing it into stories. And when you are part of
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the creation of a story like that, it can have
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a really huge impact. And yeah, so I'm glad that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: you were able to come across resources that help you
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: with that in the aftermath, because you know, it's it's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it really can be a big hit. I know we
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: have mutual friends who at the end of a Garf
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: season would really struggle with depression afterward because they felt
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like their family was gone. And I totally get that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean and even if not the other
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: people like the characters, and I had this at Garf too.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I've I have not had as much trouble stepping out
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of a characters I have with this particular one. But
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you know, there is always some leve that because even
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the character that you've built, you've spent so much time
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: developing who they are and walking in their shoes that
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: they're loved ones, and now you have to say goodbye,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and you may, like you said, you might never see
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: him again.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, this is this is why I typically
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: create real dirt bags for garf characters, because it's a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: lot easier to walk away from them. Yeah, garth are
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: almost always terrible, just so y'all know, except with the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: exception of William Shakespeare. One season I played William Shakespeare,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: but every other season I was playing a very self
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: obsessed narcissist, so it was pretty easy to walk away from.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: It might have been easy for you to walk away
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: from them, but they were still lovable despite your best efforts.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: At least the little girls that followed me around proved
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you right on that it was so frustrating to play
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a bad guy and have these little girls just absolutely
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: love the Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of hard to walk away, Oh no, we
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: can't even get into that. We have to do our
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds or less.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: That such a good segue.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: You did, And we're almost half an hour in and
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: now it's time for our opening segment thirty seconds or less. Yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we're gonna go through this super fast, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I'll start off, but we're gonna do the old back
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and forth and I actually have not scripted this one out,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: so we'll see how well I handle. I know this
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: first one will be fast, So here we go. Now,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: So December sixth, if you are a fan of James
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Cameron's The Abyss, it is getting re released for one
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: night only and it will be displayed in four K
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: resolution in theaters. So if you're a fan, or if
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you've never seen The Abyss and you want to check
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: it out, you can do so in the theaters on
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: December sixth. Go and see if it's gonna be playing
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: in your local theater. I will tell you it's long
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and the water is Aliens.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Spoiler, I've never seen The Abyss. Okay, Next, Bob Iger
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: announced that Disney is developing Frozen four. Jonathan calls it
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: a hail Mary. I'm gonna be real honest, I only
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: skimmed this article. The interesting part is that Frozen three
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: hasn't even come out, that's only just in development, so
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I think they're just trying to grasp onto whatever interest
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: people still have in that property. Is that a smart decision?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so, but I guess we'll see.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It's perfect take. Okay. Next up, so did comic book
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: creator Robert Kirkman spoil who Steven Yuen will play in Thunderbolts. Yes,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: he did so. Kirkman created Invincible. That's a great comic
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: book series, great series. Stephen Yuen is going to be
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: playing the character of Sentry in Thunderbolts. Century is kind
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: of like a Superman with schizophrenia type character in Marvel.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I have the hiccups. This is not going to be
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: thirty seconds or less. I have hiccups. It's extenuating circumstances. Anyway, Steven,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: when interesting pick for Century, you would not think of
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: him if you saw the character Centry in comic books.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's perfectly fine to go outside of type.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see how he plays him, because
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: the only thing I know about him is that in
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Marvel Puzzle Quest he poses like a male model.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I oh, it's thirty seconds or less. Okay, interesting, Yes, okay.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Shadow and Bone Netflix series that I was interested in
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: watching but never actually did so. I'm a part of
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the problem is getting canceled after season two. Before season three,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: they're saying that the amount of people that watched it
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: versus the cost it was to make it just there
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: was too much disparity there, and you know that's a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: reasonable reason not to continue on with the show if
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you aren't making your money back. Also, a pandemic and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: delay the production of season three didn't help. But this
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: also means that if you were a fan of the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: show Six of Crows, the spinoff series has also been canceled.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Bummer. Finally, could the Internet's Zaddie Pedro Pascal be joining
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the MCU. Well, the rumor is that he is considered
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to be in the lead to play Reid Richards a
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: mister Fantastic. You might remember that mister Fantastic was last
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: played by Jim from the Office in Doctor Strange, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: now it's gonna be the Mandalorian. Maybe there's a lot
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: of questions about this because Pedro Pascal's dance card is
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: awfully full already, But that's the that's the rumor mail,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: so we'll have to see.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're officially done with thirty seconds or less, so legit,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I would be an amazing ben Grim across from Pedro Pascal.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Gonna have to stop, Aid Richards, You've gotta stop campaigning.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Why do I have to stop? They haven't announced any
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of the rest of the cast yet.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: We all know the Ben get out there. We all
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: know Ben Grim's gonna be played by a PS three graphic.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That's that's gonna look terrible.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I mean half of the time, but the other half
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of the time it will be a really charming and
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: hilarious redhead who's a little bit rough around the edges
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: aka me.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna object to you playing Ben Graham.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like that might be as big a hail
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Mary as Frozen four.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: You know what, both, Disney, So let's do it. Uh.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the casting directors are fantastic four. Don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: listen to this, but if you do, I'm happy to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: send you my reel and anything else you want.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, hard to them And sometimes I read for
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Ariel in some of those scenes. So if you hear
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a voice in the background and you're like, oh, this
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: guy would be a really good henchman number seven, I'm available.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: All right, Speaking of hard to walk away from characters,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: because I'm not going to give up that awesome same way,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: even though it no longer fits HBO or Warner Brothers
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Discovery or whatever it's called now. Max I don't know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: is not actually shelving Coyote Versus Acme, as previously stated,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: they have changed their mind.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we talked about this last week, how Warner
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Brothers Discovery had made the extremely controversial decision to put
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: what was being called a completed film Coyote Versus Acme,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and had already been shown to test audiences and apparently
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: gotten a really good reaction. They were going to shelve
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it permanently and make it a tax right off. And
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: then after the world appeared to be like come on,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you know, and started to really complain about this decision,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the company reversed its course. It is not going to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: distribute Coyote Versus Acme, but it's also no longer going
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to shelve it, which means that we will likely have
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: some distribution company release it in either theaters or on
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: streaming or maybe both, which is great news for all
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the people who worked so long and so hard on
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: that film.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I guess we'll see. I think the frontrunner
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: right now is Amazon, yeah, making it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: And also, like you know, I know that we didn't
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: put this in our notes our lineup, but Ariel, you
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: had sent me an article when we were just kind
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: of chatting around earlier this week about David Zaslov essentially
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: saying the writers got what they deserved even though he
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and Brother's Discovery fought really hard to not give them
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And by the writers got what they deserved, he means
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: in the contract.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, that they got looking for right, that the writers
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: were asking for things that were reasonable, like the pay
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: raises and all that. Like all their requests were reasonable,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: is what he said, which doesn't take anything away from
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the fact that he opposed it for so long and
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: so hard. So I just want to once again say,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I am glad I no longer work for David Zaslov.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I It's interesting he didn't say that about the actors,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: but I guess that's still too raw.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: No, those wounds are too fresh.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Those wounds are too fresh. So next we're going to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: talk about the trailer for the Garfield movie. Yes, there's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: another one. Did you know about it? No? I didn't.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Apparently it looks like at the end of the trailer,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to skip to the end before we talk
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: about the trailer itself. They talk about joining the like
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: promotional campaign for it, which maybe was a tactic when
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: actors could not promote the movie.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe the whole idea of like, hey, do
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you have a cute cat that does cute things? Shoot
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: video of your cute cat so that we can use
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: your cute cat to promote our movie.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Yep, which for a Garfield movie, actually looks pretty cute.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it at least follows part of the movie
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: follows Garfield as a kitten. And they worked really really
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: hard to try and design Garfield to be like the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: definition of cute, to a point where it was actually
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: a little disturbing to me.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't feel like Garfield. I actually, Garfield is
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: this like snarky, cynical character that I you know, I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: don't even know how well he fits into current society
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and culture as a character, but he Yeah, they made
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: him very very sympathetic at first, and they don't make
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: him unsympathetic the rest of the time, but he does
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: gain some of his uh snarkiness trade trademark snarkiness. He
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: is voiced by Chris Pratt, And what I will say is,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: whereas some people complained about Chris Pratt doing the voice
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of Mario, when I heard him as Garfield, I'm like, yes,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: he sounds like Garfield to me.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he sounded like an Italian plumber.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Oh geez I, Samuel L. Jackson did not sound like
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Samuel L. Jackson to me. Surprisingly few MF bombs.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Someone get that m F and lasagna? Yeah, I uh, table,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I exactly. I don't have any real strong feelings about this.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Like again, like you, Ariel, I'm like, because is Garfield first?
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Was it ever relevant? It must have been. I mean,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Garfield had like a Saturday morning cartoon show for a
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: very long time.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: But Garfield and Friends.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Is it somehow relevant now? I don't know. Yeah, it's uh,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: it's cute enough. I don't know that I'll go see it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It's not something that's calling out to me. But I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: could definitely see my nieces really gravitating towards this movie
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: based on that trailer.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, there's there's something to be
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: said for taking the ip that I loved as a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: kid and making it watchable today so that I can
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: share it with my kids if I had them, I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: would prefer it with something like Phantom told Booth, But
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you know, to each their own. Uh. The next trailer
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: we have.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Is It's It's It's all trailers from here on out folks.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: So just so you know, yes, and also a good
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a good case for me on why I should help
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: make this lineup at what when we get to the end.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Uh So, next we have trailer for Netflix original Rebel
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Moon Colon Part one, Colan a Child of Fire, Colan
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: too many Colon's, as Jonathan put it, yes, which I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: feel like also sums up my trailer watching experience.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So it's funny because when I told Ariel
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: about this, she's like, didn't we already talk about this trailer?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: And it's because there was a teaser that came out
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: and the teaser was three minutes long, which is that's
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: ridiculous for a teaser. Teasers are usually less than a
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: minute long. And now we got a trailer where we
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: get a little bit more of the story and it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: essentially I mean, it looks to me like it's another
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: adaptation of Seven Samurai, like maybe even closer to Seventh
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Samurai than things like the Magnificent Seven happened to be.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: As the trailer played out, I'm like, oh, here's another
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: seventh son of the Seventh Samurai for us to talk about.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I so part of it it looks pretty and
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: there are bits of it that seem interesting to me,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: but it very much feels like it's going to suffer
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: from Zack Snyder's I have way too much I want
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to put into a story, and I can't fit it
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: all in. So here's five hours of people singing slowly
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: at the ocean.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's usually more like speed ramp speed ramp
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: combat against each other and lots of saturated lighting so
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: that everything all the color bleeds out of the picture.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot that he is trying to stuff
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: into the world. You can tell from both the teaser
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and the trailer. Hopefully he'll make it all work. You know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Normally I would say he suffers from editing, and I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: will still stand by that. However, having just talked about
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a game where you had one hundred players, all playing
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: their own, entirely different games that may never intersect. They
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: did intersect, but you know what I mean, I can't
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: judge too hard, but I do think for a while
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: experience it may I hope I'm wrong, but it looks
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: like it might be too much.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, it just looks like what if Star
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Wars met seven Samurai is Because I mean, you've got
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: like the the oppressive empire like organization that's that's attacking
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: like worlds that are much less well equipped. So you've
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: got the rebel Moon part there, right, You've got the
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: lead character who is determined to try and bring together
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: a team of warriors and experts to oppose this oppressive force.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: And you've got the natives, the people who are who
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: live on this planet or this moon or whatever, who
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: are largely at the mercy of the oppressive group, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: they're dependent upon these heroes to save them. And I'm like,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I think I've already got this movie, Like just from
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: this trailer, I know how this movie plays out because
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: we have seen this story before. It's just the fact
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: that it's kind of in the trappings of a Star
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Wars ish setting, and I don't know that there's more
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to it that's going to pull me to what want
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to watch the movie?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, quick aside, this has nothing to do with
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: anything other than the fact that I just remembered this
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and I meant to put it in our show notes.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: They are doing a Boop the musical written by David
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Foster in Chicago about Betty Boop.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, I thought at first it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with anything.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I thought it was first of all, weird non sequitor.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Second of all, when you said boop the musical, I
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: was like, is this just going to be a show
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: where people just walk up to each other and then
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: touch each other on the nose?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I would watch something else. I I think I would watch.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I think I would watch. Is the Netflix original fantasy
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: film Damsel starring All of a sudden, her name has
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: escaped me.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't write it down and I have not watched
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: this trailer since I put it on the lineup, so
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I cannot help you. And Noah Holmes, Oh, oh that actress. Yeah,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know the actress's name, and I should. Oh
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Millie Bobby Brown? Is that it?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, she was also in Stranger Things right. Yes, she
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: looks like she's gonna do a great job. When I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: saw this trailer, what I was reminded of was a
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighties film that was actually released under one of
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Disney's not the proper Disney label, but one of Disney's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: like subsidiaries. But there was a nineteen eighties fantasy film
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: called Dragon Slayer, and this movie, this trailer reminds me
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: of Dragon slayer. But the twist is, what if dragon Slayer,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: but one of the intended sacrifice vices becomes the dragon slayer.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sums up what this story is exactly. And
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: it actually has like a very eighties feel to it
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's interesting, it's a little bit.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And I think that's just I think I think that's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: just because like a lot of the action has a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: little bit of a harder edge to it. I wouldn't
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: say it's dark, but it feels edgy, and that I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: equate to like rock and roll fantasy from.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: The eighties es well. And and and the premise is
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: is dark, right, because the whole premise is You've got
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the society that in order to uh survive, they've chosen
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to sacrifice young women to this monster, this this dragon,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and that presumably in return, the dragon agrees not to
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: wipe them out, and so they are are sacrificing women
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: on some sort of regular basis, So that that alone
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: is a very dark premise.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: And and I do like the take of making one
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of those intended sacrifices the actual hero of the story.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: My biggest problem with Dragonslayer is that, I mean, there
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: is one character who is a potential sacrificial victim who
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: is part of the heroic group, but she's a supporting character,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and the main character is like the naive young magician's
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: apprentice who's trying to be a hero. I like the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: fact that the actual intended victim ends up turning the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: tables and becomes the hero. So that's what makes me
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: interested in watching this when it comes out.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's really cool too. I'm also interested
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to see how much of the movie is Billy Bobby Brown,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown in by herself with just CGI monsters in
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: environments to go.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Through, like, yeah, it will be yeah, because.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: That's always that's a heavy load to lift.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, super challenging. It's hard to make that engage. Like.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: There are actors who have done great jobs with that,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: but I think some of the best examples I've seen
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: were because the environment was partly real and partly CGI,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: so stuff like Lord of the Rings, they went so
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: hard in making set pieces and stuff so that there
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: was like a grounding for the actors to work off
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: of that. I feel like that tends to work a
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: lot better than say the Star Wars prequels or the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Star Wars sequels where the over reliance on maybe not
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: over reliance, the reliance on CGI perhaps inhibited actors' performances,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: which was complicated by the fact that, at least with
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the prequels, they were being directed by someone who traditionally
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: hasn't shown the greatest interest in directing performances.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now that being said, the later Star Wars shows
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: on d Plus have kind of fixed that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: So yes, yeah, because they're they're using that big, like
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: immersive set, that semi spherical set where the actors can
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: actually see the stuff that's behind them as opposed to
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: just a green screen.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, don't know what they're doing for the new
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Percy Jackson in the Olympians show, but I will say
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that's coming out on Deplus. It looks actually pretty cute. Yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I mean the pretty sweet.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I agree, it looks it looks fine. Like I have
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: not read the books so and I've never watched the
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: other the film as it came out, so I don't
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: have any like connection to the source material. But I
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: will say, like if I were if I were twelve
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: years old and I saw this trailer, I'd be like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see this.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know that one of my nephews is
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: going to be super into it. I I was a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: little bit old for Percy Jackson and the Olympians, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I think I've said it on this podcast, but for
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a while I was getting it confused with Atlas Shrugged.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Completely different story, Yes, yes, very different. But you know,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm almost a little sad that I was too
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: old for Percy Jackson when it came out, because I
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: loved Greek mythology when I was a kid growing up,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and this looks this looks it looks fun, and it
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: looks adventurous, and it looks like there's a lot of
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: different emotions that they play on, which is great. It
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: feels kid friendly but not overly cheesy to me. And
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: also it has Timothy Audmunson in it playing Hephaestus, and like,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you can't beat that because he's amazingly fun to watch.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: He's great. Yeah. I thought this looked really kind of entertaining.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I thought the performances that we get to see, the
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: little bits that we get to see, hint that there's
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: some great chemistry among the cast, and I think the
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: CGI stuff it was hard to get a handle on
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: because none of the shots are lasting super long. But
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I thought it was appropriate for like a fantasy themed film,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: like a film that has a fantasy element to it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: And I love being able to like, I love the
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: fact that there was a shot with a cinaur in it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: And you know, again, you didn't really see the centaur move,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: so it's not like you could say, wow, what great
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: special effects. But I just thought the design was good.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, what a great centaur.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Hey you know what, I got a praise where I can.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Do you think the design looks good for
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the new Madam Web movie?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I am conf well, I mean, Sony just continues to
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: confuse me. So this Madam Web is another entry into
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: their Spider Verse version offshoot of the MCU. So, like
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Venom and Morvius and the upcoming Craven film, Madam Web
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: is another one of those kind of offshoots. From what
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I understand, Madam Webb takes place in yet another offshoot universe. So,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: like none of these characters appear natively in the same universe,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: some of them cross over from one to another. I
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: think in Venom, we find out at the end of
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Venom two that he Eddie Brock and venom cross into
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: a different universe that happens to be a shared one,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: but most of them are in individual ones. So Madame
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Webb first of all, totally new take on Madame Web
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: because in the comics originally she was a much older
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: woman psychic confined to a life support system that looks
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: like a big web, which is why she was called
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Madame Webb. She's not otherwise at all related to Spider
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Man this one. She's a much younger woman. She's a
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: paramedic who somehow gets powers, possibly by saving Adam Scott.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And then you've got three other three
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: other variations of Spider Woman or Spider Girl who are
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: in the story as well. I had to look all
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: this up, by the way, Ariel, I did not know
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: it from watching the trailer, like you see them in
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: their Spider Hero costumes, but I had no idea who
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: they were.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had to. My husband told me about it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the three different Spider people are.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I do know that Madam Webb in the comics is
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: a conduit to the Spider Verse, so that is comic accurate.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she sounds like who the Web of Lives or
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: something like that. I can't remember what it's called, but
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: something along those lines.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do know that when my niece saw
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the trailer, she was super excited because a bunch of
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: female Spider Man's and I get that, but Morbius and
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: it's Morbien time and Craven them Chips both.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Both.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They've they've diluted my interest. I liked
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the first Venom movie. I thought it was fine. I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: thought it was cute and entertaining, so maybe they can
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: get back to that. I just worry that it's going
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to be kind of too dark and kind of too
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, something.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: It's It's interesting because it's clearly set in an earlier
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: era than the Spider Man films, at least in this universe,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: because like in the opening shot, she's walking toward a
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: diner that has a payphone out in front, so like
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: it's clearly set in an earlier time frame. There's one
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: point where there's a guy on a subway and he's
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: playing with a PSP, which was discontinued several years ago,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: so that tells you that it's sometime in like between
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like two thousand and four and twenty seventeen,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: So like, there's some interesting little hints there that this
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: is taking place in a slightly earlier era that I
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: think is kind of interesting. I thought the action looked
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: fine in the trade, and like, I didn't like the
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: lead actress's performance that much. I didn't find it really engaging.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: But no, the trailer at least looked like it would
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: be something I would be more into than Craven or
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: definitely more into than Morebius because that just looked like
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: a train wreck from day one and even Venom because
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I never felt the urge to watch Venom. This one,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I think looks at least from the supporting cast interesting.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: The lead lead leaves me cold, though.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have not seen enough of her work, partially
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: because I'm not interested in like the fifty Shades of
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Grace series, but I yeah it hopefully it's better and
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: maybe they just picked the wrong clips. Yeah, I felt
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the same way. I was, like some of these, some
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: of these supporting characters seem interesting. One of them is
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: from White Lotus, But yeah, the lead just kind of
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: didn't grab me. Yeah, well, like it would be a
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: very long movie to watch her in.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, because again, it's like what we were
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: talking about last week was I had not been keeping
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: up with the production of Madam Webb, so I was
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: not aware that it would be in a place where
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: there could even be a trailer released. So when it
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: when I happened to notice it the other day, I
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: was like, huh wow. Something else that made me say
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: wow was something you sent to me that you had seen.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: This is one of the ones that you saw that
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: we added to the lineup, which is the trailer for
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: the second season of the MCU animated series what If.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looks like what If.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: It does look like what If. It looks a lot
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: like what If. There's a bit where we see Captain
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: America fighting with sword and shield, and that looked really cool.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think maybe they're going into Echo's backstory
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit, or an alternate version of her story. Okay,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: it could be cool. Yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I mean like, I couldn't get a strong sense of
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: what the stories are, but the style is definitely similar
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: to what we saw with the first season.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I enjoyed the first season well enough,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: so I will watch the second season of What If. Sally.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: That's really all I gotta say on it. Yeah, the
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: stories didn't grab me enough to be like, oh, this
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: is what's happening here, and this is what's happening here.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: But I've also been a little distracted this week. The
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: next trailer that we have is for Pokemon Concierge, which
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: is another Netflix series, and this just looks like a
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: happy show. I can't even tell if there is ever
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: any conflict in it. Yeah, it's adorable.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: It looked so freakin cute. Like, again, not necessarily something
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I would watch. I have no connection to Pokemon. I
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: was never into it, So again I'm the wrong audience
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: for this. But as I watched this trailer, I'm like,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: holy crap, they have they have dialed the cute meter
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: past bursting on this series.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's about a woman who works at a
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Pokemon hotel basically, and she's like, the Pokemon don't tell
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you what they want, uh, And it's just her making
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: friends with all these Pokemon. And it looks kind of
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: like it must be seen. It looks almost like stop animation.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't look into that. It does look a
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: lot like like if it's if it's computer generated, it's
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: computer generated. To look like stop motion animation, because that's
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: it has the elements of stop motion animation, which I
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: also dig like. I like the character models. I liked
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: the colors are really they pop so hard, these colors. Uh,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: it just looks like a really delightful little series. And
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I think if you can create a delightful
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: series about animals that are forced to fight each other
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: for amusement having a chance to go on vacation, you
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: should do it.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I it honestly kind of gave me like a
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: wuzzles feel. I don't know why. That's probably after your time.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I have heard the word before.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Well, if you know what the wuzzles are and you
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: watch the Pokemon Concierge trailer, let me know if you
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: get the same vibes. The next thing I also didn't
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: know was happening I'm actually super excited for, which is
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: a new entry into the Mister Monk series.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Adrian Monk. If you're not familiar, It was
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the lead character of a television series several years ago,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and he is played by Tony Shaloub and the character
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: is a brilliant, brilliant detective, a lah like Sherlock Holmes.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: He's one of those people just has incredible powers of
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: observation and deduction, but he's also riddled with various neuro
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: sees and mental health issues, everything from like a germaphobia
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: to agoraphobia, like he's afraid of everything essentially. Yeah. Yeah,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: and he typically can only function when he has a
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: personal nurse working with him, who serves to be the
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Watson to his homes. And so we're getting a movie
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: called Mister Monk's Last Case and it will be on
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Peacock and it's yeah, it's a continuation or a conclusion,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: which is interesting because like the big overarching story for
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: mister Monk on the series was that you find out
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: that one of the reasons he's as bad off as
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: he is, like he was always neurotic, but the reason
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: why he's as severe as he is is because prior
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: to the show beginning, his wife was killed and so
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: he is obsessed with solving her murder and that is
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: kind of an underlying plot point throughout the entire series,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: and they kind of wrap that up at the end
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: of the TV series. So it's interesting to me, like
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: this is post all of that and another story. I
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: kind of wonder if they're trying to tie up any
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: other loose ends. It's been long enough since I've watched
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: the series that I couldn't tell you what those loosends
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: are at this point.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Same, however, I absolutely loved this series when it was airing.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I've watched it a few times. Yeah, it also takes
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: place post COVID. They make a joke about it in
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the trailer, not an observation. It's not even really a.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Joke, yea other than to other than to hint that
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: it really did a number on Monk.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but if you if you liked Monk and
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: you watched it, you'll also get your You'll get Natalie
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  Speaker 1: Back who was his nurse, and Randy and Leland Stottlemeyer,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: who were detectives. So I love that. I love that
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of the original crew back and Monk,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: who went through a couple of nurses, but I think
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: she was the most prominent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, his first one lasted for several seasons, and
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: then that actress left the show, and then Natalie became
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I think ultimately was on more episodes if you were
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: to like look at them and add them all up.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like both of both of the actresses
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: who played the nurses something I don't know. The next
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: thing we're going to talk about is kind of like
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: my bane of animation, which is Mary Little Batman. It
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: looks like a cute story, but it is such ugly
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: animation that I don't think I'll be able to like it. Basically,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: it's an animated cartoon. It's very like kid oriented where
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Batman goes off and says he'll be back before Christmas
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: and he crashes, and so Damian Wayne, his son, ends
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: up putting on finding his own batsuit and fighting crime.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: And it looks like a really cute, kind of funny story,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: but it's just ugly. It's just an ugly, ugly cartoon.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to the animators. It's just visually unappealing to me.
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  Speaker 1: And I am sad because I know I'm gonna have
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: to watch it over the holidays that I don't want.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe i'd love it in audio format.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Is your partner going to demand you watch it and
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: that's why you're gonna have to see it?
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we have a good friend who every time
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: that he comes to visit, he brings like some of
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: the Disney animated movies to watch, and that's what he
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: and my husband do, and he's probably gonna visit after,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: like between Christmas and the New Year a little bit maybe,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm suspecting that one will be on the list,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: because that is how I found out about it. It
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: was through this person. I mean, I could I could
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: sit upstairs and be a grinch and crochet and watch
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: actual plays instead of going downstairs and being social.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: But gotcha. Well, now we're moving into my favorite part
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: of every episode, which is where I flood the end
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: of the episode with trailers for horror movies and then
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I make airy I'll watch this.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: And this is why I need to And this time
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: they're Christmas, so they're extra bat they're extra horrible trailers.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I need to start doing the lineup so you can't
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: do this to me anymore.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always going to throw them in and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: put them at the end.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then maybe I'll come in and I'll move them.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: After you've arranged the episode.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: It's just going to be You're going to be you'll
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: be listening to us record the episode and here live
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: as we are shifting things around on the on the line.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: It'll be like the pink blue dress argument from Sleeping.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Beauty exactly, make it creepy, make it wholesome, make it creepy.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: So the first one, as you mentioned, is the Sacrifice Game.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: If I had to give like the elevator pitch for
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: the Sacrifice Game, this is only makes sense if you
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: watch a lot of horror. But I would say, take
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Funny Games and combine it with the Black Coat's Daughter,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: and you've got the Sacrifice Game. But again, that doesn't
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: mean anything if you don't know those two reference points.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: To me, it looks like if you took Violent Night
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: and took any of the Santa or magical or a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: little bit of kind heartedness there was in it out
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Well, the Sacrifice Game is about some students at a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: like a boarding school who are staying behind longer than
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: their fellow students. And then there's an almost like a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: school invasion kind of thing as some cultists come in,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: and clearly the whole reference of the Sacrifice Game is
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna need to sacrifice someone to do whatever
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: dark magic they need to do, which is why I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: think of it as like Funny Games is a home
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: invasion film. There's a lot of fourth wall breaking and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: funny games. I don't think that's going to be the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: case for The Sacrifice Game, but funny games, very intense
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: home invasion film. And then The black Coat's Daughter is
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: a movie in which two women, two young women students
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: at a boarding school, stay behind during holiday break and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: one of them, it turns out to essentially surrender herself
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: to the devil.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: That sounds so holiday lovely.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: It's a fantastic movie. It's not a good horror holiday movie.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: But The Black Coat's Daughter is an amazing very atmospheric
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: and slow paced. I mean, if you're not into slow
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: paced movies, it's not going to be for you, but
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: it's got an amazing atmosphere and great performance. Is highly
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: recommended if you if you haven't seen it, check out
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: The Black Coat's Daughter. I don't know if The Sacrifice
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  Speaker 2: Game is going to be as good as either of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: those two movies that I just mentioned, but it does
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: have like one hundred percent reception so far, only because
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: the movie not only because, but I think largely because
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: the movie has only really shown in like film festivals,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: specifically ones that have kind of a horror slant to it,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: So it's not like it's been screened to critics, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: across the whole spectrum.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The next trailer is for Terrifier three. I it's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: the third of the Terrifier trilogies. I'm going to assume yes,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: it's about a creepy, gross, bad makeup Santa that eats children.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: So it's art. The Clown is the name of the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: antagonist in the Terrifier series. Art Clown actually appears in
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: some other stuff besides the Terrifier films. It's a character
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: who's been around for a little bit. The Terrifier series
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: is essentially in the slasher horror genre and goes really
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: hard on blood and gore, like super hard in all
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: the entries. I do not personally find the Terrifier movies
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: that entertaining. Sometimes there are people who do like a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: darn good performance in them, but I'm not a big
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: fan of the films. There. There's not a whole lot
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: to them other than this supernaturally resilient, psychopathic clown monster
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: decides for whatever reason to terrorize and murder people. That's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: about it. Like there's no other there's no other subtle
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: element to the film. And this is the third one.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: As Ariel said, cool, good talk. The last trailer, which
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: is this one. Look, this one's sweet. It's about it's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: about children and their imaginary.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Friends that want them to harm themselves. It's called imaginary.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this trailer. This trailer was disturbing. I think
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: where we've seen movies like this before too, right, where
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: it's a child who makes a connection with some sort
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: of supernatural element and only the child is able to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: see and interact with this element, and of course the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: adults around this child's life just assume that the child
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: being imaginative and that's it. And in this case, it
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: turns out that, uh, it's not that the child is
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: it's not just that the child is imaginative. They really
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: can see an entity that is malevolent, and in this case,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: the malevolent entity has a grudge against the child's mother.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing they never really seem to, uh to nailed
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: down the relationship between the main character and the child.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: But the older woman in her in her own childhood
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: apparently abandoned this imaginary friend, and it's got a grudge.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, it also seems like it's got a grudge
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: against the girl's brother. It is done by this, It's
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: done by Bloomhouse. It's you know, creators of Megan and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: five Nights at Freddy, So it's right in that niche
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: of creepy play things. That one looked the most interesting
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: to me. But I still think it's just not something
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to be interested in watching, So I'll
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: be I will be wrapped to hear your review of it, Jonathan.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably watch this one. I'll probably watch this one,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: and I'll probably watch the Sacrifice game. My guess is
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: some some evening, I'm going to be bored and I'll
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: watch Terrifier three because I have watched the other two
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: movies in that series, even though again I wasn't a
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: big fan of either film. Like some of the actors
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: I thought were great in those movies, Like I thought
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: they did a really good job with what they had,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: but neither movie. I wouldn't call myself a fan of
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: either of them. But I'm sure I'll end up watching
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Terrifier three anyway, because you know, it's like like how
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: sometimes you know you really shouldn't. You know it's gonna
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: make you feel bad, but you just crave taco bell
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: so you just gotta go out and eat taco Bell.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: You know there are better options. You know you'd feel
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: better if you just ate somewhere else, but you gotta
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: have Taco Bell. Terrifier is my Taco Bell.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So I had Taco Bell on Monday, and I usually
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: feel fine afterwards.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Oh well, you're eating it differently than I do.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I get like a basic, crunchy or soft taco and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: it's like between one hundred and seventy and one hundred
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and eighty calories for taco, which isn't too bad. And
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I get a few of those in a sushi and
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: See for me, it's the bean burrito because those nest
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: to be. It used to be like, oh, I'd scrounged
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: for change in my going back to my college days,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I've scrounged for change. I'm like, oh man, i've got
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: a dollar twenty nine. Guess I'll go buy five bean
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: burritos at Taco Bell.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's another reason Taco Bell is good. I
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: know they get a lot of flak, but I they're
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: one of my guilty pleasures. Yeah, so that is it.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: I will work on getting these show notes up. Show
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: notes up everybody, so you can follow along with the
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: stories and the trailers we talked about. I'll also link
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: to my friend's live stream if you want to check
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: it out, because she's a really amazing role player and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I've gamed with her through more games than just Calamity,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: but she's awesome. Jonathan. If they want to reach out
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: to us about anything that we've talked about, or just
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: to share stuff going on, how do they do that?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Well, what you're first gonna do is you're gonna rummage
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: around in your couch. You're gonna keep on doing that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: till you get approximately eighty nine cents. You're gonna then
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: take a trip to the closest taco bell. You're gonna
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: order yourself a bean and cheese burrito. You're gonna take
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: that bean and cheese burrito home, and when you get home,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: you're gonna open up that bag and you're gonna see
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: that they gave you four packets of the Diablo hot sauce.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna need you to empty all four of those
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: packets into the inside of your bean and cheese burrito.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Then you're going to have to lift that bean and
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: cheese burrito. You're gonna have to close your eyes count
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: to three. Then you're just gonna have to scarf that
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: sucker down as fast as you possibly can. As you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: feel the effects of the Diablo sauce soaked burrito go
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: down your gullet. You're going to start having regrets. And
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: I don't just mean about Taco Bell. You're gonna have
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: an existential crisis where you're going to regret all the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: various bad decisions that eventually led you to Taco Bell.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: And as you get to the end of this chain
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: of bad decisions, as you go back in time and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: you go through all the causal relationships that led to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you going to Taco Bell, you're going to turn around
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: and look back at where you came from, and you're
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: going to see a silhouette and that silhouetted figure is
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: going to step forward. It will be me. I will
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: have Diablo sauce all over my face, and you're going
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: to ask your question, and after I let out what
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: can only be described as a disturbingly wet belch, I
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: will answer you.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's almost more terrifying than the last
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: three trailers. Uh. If you can't eat hot sauce like me,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you can also reach out to us on the social
• 1:10:44
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• 1:10:49
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• 1:10:53
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• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: couldn't get any of the ones we otherwise have and
• 1:10:57
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• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: want to drop us an email, you can do so
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: at Large nerdrum Pod at gmail dot com. We really
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: do love hearing from you. And until next time.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: What what what?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: Are?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: What? What?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: WHOA wait before you do that. One last thing. Next
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: week is Thanksgiving, so we will be taking a week off, yes,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: because we will not be able to record. I'll be traveling.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Ariel will be very busy, So we will be off
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: next week due to Thanksgiving, but we'll be back very
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: soon after that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, uh DJ Jonathan Strickland. What what? What? What? What?
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  Speaker 1: Until next time? I have been Ariel Christmas. It's not
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  Speaker 1: even Thanksgiving yet, casting and.
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  Speaker 2: I have been Jonathan Wabba Whoba gobble Gobbles Strickland. The
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  Speaker 2: Large nerdron Collider was created by Ariel and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
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