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Ep. 28: "The Times They Are A-Changin" at The Daily Advance · Voices of the Albemarle

• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to Voices of the Album Marvel.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: While we originally planned to have ECPD Chief Eddie Graham and Deputy Chief Amy Snyder Wells as today's guests, they will be unable to attend.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: We are working on rescheduling, but instead of scrambling to find a last-minute guest, we thought it would be a good opportunity to pivot to a different kind of episode.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: We scramble to find ourselves.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: As always, I'm your host and today's guest, Izzy Kelly Goss.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so what am I?
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good question.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm another host.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a I'm a side host.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a side beast.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Co-host.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: Co-host, okay.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: And also today's guest, I suppose.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: I am.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, today we will be talking about the newspaper.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: We are undergoing some changes, and we wanted to take this opportunity to discuss them on a verbalized platform.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: It it may not be the most scintillating conversation for some.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, speak for yourself.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: But oh, for some.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's in it, it's important to the community that we describe exactly what the changes are.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: So everybody can make their own their own choice as they always do, and and grab the news, grab the information in the way that they they prefer.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what we want to do.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: But before we jump into that, speaking of of news, um, school is officially back in session for most of the schools in the region.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: Pasquatank, Perquimmons, Camden, Kurtuck, and County Public or Anchoan County Public Schools, all returned this week, which is a great time to announce the start of our project, superhero educators.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's a partnership with Park Ziegler Law Firm.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we are going to be highlighting some of the region's There are the presenting sponsors, actually.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: We have a number of sponsors, but the presenting sponsors are Park Ziegler Law Firm, Hoffer Flow Controls, and ECSU.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much to those three sponsors.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's going to really help us as we highlight some of the region's top educators with written profiles.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: We will also be doing podcasts with some of the district teachers of the year and superintendents.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: So be sure to stay tuned and keep an eye out for those as they come out over the course of the school year.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: Very exciting to hear about some of the exciting things that that the teachers are doing because they're really, they really are doing innovative things and it's it's it's all good for the community.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of innovation, um, my second thing, staying on the theme with schools, there is a really cool project that is happening at Northeastern High School this semester where their new principal, Sharon Bell, saw a great opportunity for outdoor education.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: So there are three courtyards within the ins and outs of the building, and the school will be working with the agriculture students, the local organization Green Saves Green, and other volunteers to clean them up, restore them, and hopefully find grant funding for things like benches, picnic tables, and desks.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was a really cool um thing to hear about.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: I got the opportunity to go last week during their first cleanup on August 19th and speak with Sharon Bell about the whole thing.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Their second cleanup is today as we're recording this Wednesday, August 26th, so it will have already happened by the time this episode airs.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: Principal Bell had a lot of really great things, um, inspiring things to say.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: If you're interested in learning more about that, check out the article I wrote that came out last weekend titled NHS Project Moves Learning Outside.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: She had so many great insights.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: You can tell, like we were saying, innovative thinking.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: She really wanted to emphasize a new way of learning for the high school students.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a great place for them to have class outside.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: There's also, it creates a third space for the students that have online classes because that's really popular around here with ECSU and with COA.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: There are students that take like dual enrollment classes and they're online.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: So it gives them an opportunity to have like a quiet space to go and take those online classes and then chill stuff.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: Outdoors.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: Which is so cool because how many students can say that their high school gives them the opportunity to go and sit outside and learn?
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_01: My high school did.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: Except they didn't know I was gone.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we don't recommend Northeastern high school students ditch class.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: But being outside is great.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we love the environment.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: Finally moving away from that bad influence and from school news.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: Senator Bobby Hanig from Kuratuck hung up his hat this week, surprising everyone by announcing his retirement from legislation on Monday.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Is he wearing a hat, really?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: He wears hats.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if have you ever met him.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, I haven't.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: He has such a unique sense of style.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: It is so cool.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: He I've seen him wear, gosh, I don't know how to describe it, but like the flat-brimmed hats that are like kind of circular on top.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's not a great description.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Most hats are circular on top.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: But and then I've seen him wear like pinstripe suits um or like seersucker suits.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a cool sense of style.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm sure the people of our area will be seeing it a little bit more because he's retiring back to his home in Kuratuck.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he just, I guess, decided it was time.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's been in legislation for a long time.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: He started out as a Kuratuck County County Commissioner.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then he was the Senate representative for District One, which includes Pasquatang, so that's our county.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then also Bertie, Camden, Kuratuck, Dare, Gates, Hertford, Northampton, Perkwomans, and Tyrell counties.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we'll probably be hearing something from him.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's always absolutely yeah.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: He put out a statement, and we do also have an article written on that.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: If there's anybody that cares to read that, that was a great article.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but speaking of our print paper, I think we're gonna talk about the Daily Advance now.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: We have some changes coming.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's not just a print, it's again, it's not just No, no, no.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was just using that as a segue.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: There are the as the title of this episode is going to be The Times, they are a Change In.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: That is a Bob Dylan song.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they are a change in.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, keep going.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: Just kidding.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: We might get copyrighted.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: You used to know that song.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's disappeared.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: My memory is gone.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, hopefully you'll manage to remember this major change, which this is the biggest change, I would say, um, is our printing process.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, like you said, we have a bunch of uh little changes.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: But but that's gonna be the major change, is we're dropping down to only two print editions a week.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: I they're gonna be extended editions.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like we're losing pages so much as we're changing the way things are published.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we're gonna have an extended edition on Wednesday and on Saturday, but we're still going to be having our daily e-editions.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, we are well, we are actually going to have e-editions on more days of the week.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have e-editions on seven days of the week because people were used to seeing a printed product uh on our five days a week.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: We are going to have an e-edition, which is basically uh the uh digital facsimile of a print product.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: It will look just like the print product for those who don't know.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: We have an app, the Daily Advance app.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: I have that on my phone.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: I check it out just about every day, and then you can also find the e-edition on our website.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's I mean, it's cool because you get to see the same type of print product, but it's it's on your phone, which I feel like your publisher's letter, which was also published.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you guys should check that out, David did a very good job.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it I think it really eloquently explained it.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to read an excerpt, so don't start blushing.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: And this is what it is quote The newspaper is no longer totally dependent upon paper and ink.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: And reading the news is no longer a singular activity for many enjoyed over a cup of coffee in the kitchen or the break room.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Today, readers don't have to wait for the printed newspaper, they want news when it happens.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: End quote.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: Which I mean, that's absolutely true.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: There's 1,000% something to be said for the art of a print newspaper.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: We did an entire podcast episode about that, episode two, for those who are interested in checking it out.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: But that doesn't mean things don't change.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean the times aren't changing.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: Social media, I would say, is a huge format for how people get their news every day now.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: People get people get uh too much in the weeds here, but people, uh, all three of us here, Cole's here, Izzy's here, I'm here, and everybody who may be downloading this this podcast receive information in ways that we aren't even aware of.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's not that we're these things are out of thin air, but they they kind of are out of thin air, but we've become so used to getting information.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: We no longer think about was it printed, was it uh broadcast on TV, radio, whatever.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: I remember uh again, I I've said this before I grew up in Chicago, and there were I can remember I'm old enough to rem remember my father uh receiving a paper in the morning and in the evening.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: I thought you were gonna say a telegram.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, he had morning paper and an evening paper.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: And there were when I was really little kid, there were four newspapers, but it before that there were a lot more, but there were four newspapers, two morning, two evening.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I still say that by the time I go to work in the morning, I probably know more about the world around me than my father knew by the time he went to bed, because he was receiving his his information in the morning and in the evening, and yes, maybe people would be talking to him, but then he would come home and watch the six o'clock news.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so there's a limited number of limited bit of information.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: But today we get hit with information from the moment we are up until the moment we we hit our head hits the pillow, and some of us are actually reading our phones after their our our heads hit the pillow.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, there's information all the time, and it's probably too much, but that's just the way things are.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's at the tip of your fingers.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's with the click of a button, it's so easily accessible.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, it's a habit to pick up the paper.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Many people still say, I like the feel of the newspaper, I like to read the newspaper while I'm drinking a cup of coffee.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: But those that the number of people that do that is a lot less today than it was five years ago, than it was five years before that, and five years before that.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: So what has happened is that yes, fewer people are subscribing to the newspaper, but not fewer people are capturing and receiving information.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: There's information out there, and the only thing we're doing is we are changing the way we're gonna be delivering that information.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna be all we're gonna have actually more news, yeah, more information available.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's just gonna be in a little different format.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: So if in fact you were very used to getting the newspaper five days a week a week, I'm sorry it's going to be two days a week, but those two days are gonna be more robust than they were before.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: And they're probably going to be more of a recap of the things that have been occurring, which is the way more people have been consuming news.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: We're only responding to what our overall audience is is telling us and what our audience is has has been doing.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: So uh the activity here is not so much cutting back as it is we're responding to what our audience is actually asking of us.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: And what I would say to that is also I think it'll be a lot more local news as well.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Is that not uh that's a goal that we have in mind with this as well?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: There is there is I I've worked in major metro markets and it's very difficult.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean you can't compete.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: You have to compete with Google, you have to compete with with Facebook nationally, but um if you focus on local news, that's the niche that is not served by some of the larger media out there, and it's the one thing that people really ask for.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's when you're at a a lar in a large um media organization, you're always hit by we want more local information, we want more local news.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so you say define local.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: It could be what are they serving for school lunches?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, who you know, what was what was the demonstration down the street?
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what are they teaching at school?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: Who's running for my local my the local office and in my community?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: So uh we'll have more information about that coming out soon, so stay tuned for that as well.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: So the it we are gonna continue to focus on local news, and in all honesty, uh we're probably going to have more local news than we had before.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think the the entire community is going to be served far better because we're gonna be more responsive.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we're gonna have more information available, and we're gonna have it more available in more available more frequently and in more formats than we did before.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And another change uh on the theme of more is we're actually gonna be having some changes to our staff.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we should hopefully be adding a couple of members to our editorial staff.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: We won't get too far into that at the moment, just because nothing's 100% finalized, but that'll be an exciting change for me.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think my uh victim complex of we have such a small staff may suffer, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: We will we will always have a small staff because it is a that's just the culture of newspaper community.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's a small community.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it it is what it is, but we are gonna be adding to that staff because we know that there are pockets of the community that we can do a better job of reporting on.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: We do know that there are pockets of of content that people are asking for, and the only way we're gonna be able to report on them, one area would be high school sports.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: The only way we're gonna be able to report on them regularly is by adding another set of legs and arms and a head.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: And writing fingers, typing fingers.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's we're all we're very excited about that.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think my victim complex joke did not land.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to make it clear that I was joking, guys.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think we do have a small staff, but we work really hard to try and fill any gaps, and I'm more than happy and grateful to to do what I can.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: I I agree.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think the concept of a small staff in a small community, it can sometimes have its challenges, but it does provide like a certain, like we're saying, like a niche where, you know, because you have a small staff, you have a few people who deal with multiple people.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: So they know everyone, and it's a lot easier for them to make connections and get more information directly.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, like living here, I've also had that advantage growing up here, knowing all of these people that my parents knew, and knowing all of these people because I went to school with them.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: There is something to be said for a small staff, but I do think, you know, I do think that it will be nice to see a change where we have more people and we can we can spread the knowledge with more legs, arms, eyes, and ears and right mouths.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: Our decision to to modify or change the days of delivery from five to two is merely a reflection of what our audience is asking of us.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're their habits have been diminished on the print side and growing on the digital side.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: And our audience on the digital side far exceeds in size the the audience in the print side.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: So what we want to do is we want to serve that audience, that growing audience, far better than we have before.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we still want to provide a printed product to provide a recap of everything that's been going on.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: So while while we understand that change is not always easy for everyone, including me, um we will be changing because our audience has been asking us to do so.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a great way for me to close out with another quote from your letter.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-oh.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: I read it all the way through.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: I enjoyed it thoroughly.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and this is the quote: Change isn't always easy.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: We understand that some readers will be disappointed by seeing fewer newspapers on their doorstep.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard many comments from longtime readers that there is something special about holding a printed newspaper in their hands.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: We aren't asking you to stop loving the printed newspaper.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: We are inviting you to join us as we expand what it means to be your local newspaper.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: The Daily Advance isn't taking a step back.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Indeed, we are evolving and taking a step forward.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: Our mission remains unchanged to cover the communities we serve, tell important local stories, celebrate our neighbors and businesses, provide accountability, and give our readers the information they need to make their communities better.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I think there's nothing else that you could say to sum all of this up than that.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I because I wrote it, I will say yes, that's true.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um I will the only thing I will do is add this.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: I I didn't want to throw this quote in, but the former publisher of the New York Times, Arthur Arthur Salzberg Jr.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh also he was the chairman of the New York Times Foundation, I think.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm gonna paraphrase his quote, and that is that a newspaper should not be defined by the second word.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: It should be defined by the first word.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously that's news and paper.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think too many people in the business that we are in, and I'm gonna say that the the business that I'm in, it's a newspaper business.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: I have not been involved in the paper side for a long time.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now that I'm a I'm the publisher, but I have been focused on the digital side.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't mean I think the newspaper is a bad thing.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: I just it's because the only reason I'm saying that is because the audience has shifted.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Too many people in the newspaper industry have not focused on that issue.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: We keep saying newspaper, and so the word paper keeps coming up.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot tell you how many times I receive a call, and this this is not just here, this is across the country and other places that I've been.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody will say, um, well, I'm I'm older, so I really don't use the internet, or I I've heard people say I can't use the internet.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: I I can fairly say today that the per people who are saying that are probably not older than me.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I uh if you do not like to access via the internet, that's perfectly fine.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's available for you though.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um we will continue to have a paper product.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: But um I it it's not the the in the ability or inability is not age, it's preference, and you everybody has a right to that preference.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I wouldn't fault anybody for being a a uh a hardcore uh two-dimensional paper uh lover.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um I happen to be someone who is more m on the more on the digital side.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: That being said, I'd prefer to read a book, you know, a real book rather than a Kindle.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: A Kindle.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: But as far as news and information, I probably get it a lot on the digital side.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't mean everybody should.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: It just means more people are doing that today.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: And again, change is not always easy, but it is inevitable.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: And if we do not grow with that, then you know, how will people get their news?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, emphasis on news, less on paper.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Not less on paper, but but that is the emphasis of what we do.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: We do news, and it's uh and if we focus on the paper instead of the news, then we will fall behind and we want to serve the community in the best way that we can.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, coincidentally, there is an economic piece of this, and but that wasn't absolutely that wasn't the driver of this.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're the economic, so they have to chap down trees and all that kind of all that.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if you have a subscription for the physical paper, if you have any questions about what this means for you and your subscription, we do have a customer service call center.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: You can call 252-329-9505.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: They should be equipped to help you as a subscriber.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they'll be able to look up your account and offer solutions that are appropriate based off of your subscription.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, David's full letter, if you guys are interested in reading that, it's very well written and has a lot of blooming personality, much like David.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh blooming, like a flower, like a blossom.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh blossoming personality.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: What kind of flower am I?
• 23:01
  unknown: Oh gosh.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Petunia?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Or a daffodil.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: I could see a daffodil.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what they are.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know what a daffodil is?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll figure that out.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh how to teach you that later on.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: If you haven't figured it out this far in your life, maybe you just haven't seen one.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a plant person.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, David's full letter, it's available online as we speak, and is in Wednesday's E and print edition.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's Wednesday, August 26th.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: And emphasis on that E edition, guys.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's a cool way to be able to have that newspaper look and still get that news right at the tip of your fingers.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: We thank all of our readers and listeners for sticking with us as we make these changes that we really truly believe are for the better.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, thank you also for listening to this episode.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Please make sure to check back next Friday for another episode of Voices of the Album Bob.