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Trump’s peace hinges on Hamas disarming. So what now? · The Front

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  Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christinamio.
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  Speaker 1: It's Friday, October tenth, twenty twenty five. The Victorian Director
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  Speaker 1: a petition with twenty thousand signatures would affect the policy.
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  Speaker 1: Those stories are live right now at the Australian dot
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  Speaker 1: com dot au. Peace in the Middle East hinges on
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  Speaker 1: one thing hamas disarming. There was jubilation across Israel and
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  Speaker 1: Gaza on Thursday as Donald Trump announced the militant group
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  Speaker 1: had agreed to the first phase of a historic peace plan.
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  Speaker 1: Now they have to follow through releasing the Israeli hostages
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  Speaker 1: and laying down their weapons for good. Today our correspondents
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  Speaker 1: joined me amid the celebration and caution. For two years,
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  Speaker 1: the skies over the Mediterranean coast in the Middle East
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  Speaker 1: have been pierced by missiles and air sirens. But as
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  Speaker 1: the sun rose on Thursday October nine, the sounds of
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  Speaker 1: war gave way to joy in Israel beside and in Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: The reason the promise of peace at last.
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  Speaker 2: President Trump has announced Israel and Hamas have signed off
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  Speaker 2: on what he is calling the first fees of his
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  Speaker 2: peace plan. Trump making the announcement.
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  Speaker 1: Joanni Bashan and Liam Mendes are in Israel for the
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  Speaker 1: Australian Liam Listeners to the Front heard a few days
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  Speaker 1: ago about Hostages Square in Tel Aviv and the quiet,
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  Speaker 1: solemn atmosphere there as the second anniversary of the October
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  Speaker 1: seven attacks approached. What's it like there now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's an incredibly different scene right now, Chrissy singing, dancing,
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  Speaker 3: a huge amount of emotion and excitement. There was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of praise to US President Donald Trump. People wearing
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  Speaker 3: maga hats. It was even one woman wearing a Trump
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  Speaker 3: paper mache mask. But just after we arrived at around
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  Speaker 3: six am, there was one elderly man who was essentially
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  Speaker 3: marched out by palice. He was holding a sign with
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of faces, one of them was Benjamin et Yahu.
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  Speaker 3: On there that there was a bit of a scuffle
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  Speaker 3: between him and police as he was taken away, but
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  Speaker 3: apart from that, it was just a lot of emotion
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of excitements.
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  Speaker 1: The agreement reached on Thursday is being called phase one
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  Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's twenty point piece plan. That means on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: Hamas will release forty eight hostages who've been held in
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  Speaker 1: Gaza since they were taken captive on October seven, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three. But not all of the hostages survived their ordeal.
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  Speaker 1: Their bodies are expected to be returned to Israel on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: In return, Israel will maintain a presence in about half
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  Speaker 1: of the Gaza strip until the hostages are safely home
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  Speaker 1: and released terror linked prisoners currently held in Israeli. P
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  Speaker 1: six hundred trucks carrying aid supplies will also be allowed
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  Speaker 1: into Gaza every day. Donald Trump praised negotiators from Qatar
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  Speaker 1: and Egypt in an interview with Fox News for their
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  Speaker 1: help in sealing the deal.
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  Speaker 4: The whole world came together, to be honest, so many
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  Speaker 4: countries that you wouldn't have even thought of it. The
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  Speaker 4: world has come together around this deal, and it's been
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  Speaker 4: really an amazing period of time and so great for Israel,
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  Speaker 4: so great for Muslims, for the Arab countries. This is
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  Speaker 4: more than Gaza, this is peace in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 4: an incredible thing.
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  Speaker 1: What's the significance of this Phase one agreement to the
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  Speaker 1: Israeli people, Yonnie.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think critical to the Phase one deal is
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  Speaker 2: the release of all the hostages, which is what the
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  Speaker 2: Israeli people have been calling for since the start of
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  Speaker 2: this war in October seven. I mean, really, that was
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  Speaker 2: the essence of what all the fighting was about. It
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  Speaker 2: was that Hamas had conducted an invasion upon Israel, slaughtered
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  Speaker 2: a very large number of people, and then taken two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one people captive to Gaza. And all
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  Speaker 2: of the efforts with regards to this war have been
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  Speaker 2: really twofold. One has been to eradicate Commas, but first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost it's been to bring home the hostages. So
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  Speaker 2: the significance of this steal just cannot be overstated to
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  Speaker 2: the Israeli people. The people I've spoken to today have
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  Speaker 2: said that this was a day that was always going
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  Speaker 2: to come, although they feel that it's one that could
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  Speaker 2: have come a lot sooner. Have the politics and the
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  Speaker 2: diplomacy been aligned at certain points along the way.
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  Speaker 1: Liam, You've spent time with the hostages families on your
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  Speaker 1: various trips to the Middle East over the last two years.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think they're feeling right now.
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  Speaker 3: There's a real mixed bag of emotions here. On the
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  Speaker 3: positive side, people are coming home, but some of those
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  Speaker 3: people are tragically deceased. Families are finally going to get
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  Speaker 3: the bodies of their loved ones. And then there's other
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  Speaker 3: families that are going to have their relatives come back,
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  Speaker 3: but they're going to be psychologically damaged. Over seven hundred
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  Speaker 3: days in horrendous conditions inside tunnels, that's going to have
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  Speaker 3: an enormous toll on the psychological welfare of these hostages.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't the end of the road at all. There's
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  Speaker 3: still years and years of recovery ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump said on Thursday, his confidence subsequent phases of
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  Speaker 1: the peace plan will come to fruition.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're going to see people getting along, and
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  Speaker 4: you'll see gas are being rebuilt. We're forming a council,
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  Speaker 4: the Council of Peace. People are going to be taken
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  Speaker 4: care of. It's going to be a different world. I think.
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  Speaker 4: Really the Middle East came together amazingly, they came together.
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  Speaker 1: You know they are. But statements made by Egyptian officials
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  Speaker 1: hinted that some of the details were yet to be
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  Speaker 1: hashed out. That includes how Hamas will disarm and how
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  Speaker 1: Gaza will be governed following the withdrawal of Israeli forces
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  Speaker 1: and Hamas militants who've been promised if they choose.
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  Speaker 4: To lead.
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  Speaker 1: Jonni. The agreement reached on Thursday only represents a fraction
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  Speaker 1: of the twenty point plan presented by Donald Trump. How
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  Speaker 1: confident are you the remaining parts of that plan will
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  Speaker 1: come to fruition.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's certainly everyone's hope on the ground here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the point of greatest contention is going to
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  Speaker 2: be will Hamas willingly disarm. It's all well and good
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  Speaker 2: for an agreement to come about for the return of
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  Speaker 2: the hostages, and certainly that is what's going to make
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  Speaker 2: the Israeli public happy. It's going to result in the
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  Speaker 2: israel Defense Forces pulling back their troops, their artillery, the drones,
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  Speaker 2: and the border crossing at Rapha is going to be
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  Speaker 2: reopened to allow the entry and exit of Palestinians and
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  Speaker 2: of AID, and there will be an enormous surgeon Aid
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  Speaker 2: going into the territory. So all of those things are
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  Speaker 2: wonderful for the first phase, but in terms of a
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  Speaker 2: broader outlook for the future of the Middle East, it's
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  Speaker 2: really going to hinge on whether Hamas plays any role
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  Speaker 2: in that territory and the conditions that have been placed
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  Speaker 2: on this cease fire or on any cease fire throughout
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  Speaker 2: the two years of warring Gaza, at least from the
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  Speaker 2: Israeli side, is that Hamas needs to put down his arms.
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  Speaker 2: And the announcement that was received overnight, while being celebrated
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  Speaker 2: widely across Israel and certainly in other parts of the world,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't address that question. So that's something that still
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  Speaker 2: needs to be sorted out, and we expect to hear
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  Speaker 2: more on that in the coming days.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Why the work at home is only half done back
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  Speaker 1: home in Australia, Jewish leaders have warned optimism over the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East peace deal isn't a proxy for action against
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  Speaker 1: rising anti semitism. Liberal Minister Julian Lisa and Labour MP
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  Speaker 1: Josh Burns have been named as winners of this year's
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  Speaker 1: McKinnon Price for Political Leadership for their roles in fighting
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  Speaker 1: antisemitism over the past two years. Lisa told The Australian
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  Speaker 1: anti Semitism in Australia is at crisis.
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  Speaker 5: Levels, but there's a very deep support for Israel and
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  Speaker 5: a very deep recognition of the need to act strongly
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  Speaker 5: and swiftly to deal with anti semitism crisis we face
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  Speaker 5: in Australia, a crisis that I sadly don't think will
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  Speaker 5: abate even if there is a peace deal undertaken.
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  Speaker 1: You can see the full interview with Julian Lisa and
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  Speaker 1: Josh Burns at the Australian dot Com dot au. Just lastly, Yonnie,
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday in Sydney, we saw that a pro Palestine
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  Speaker 1: march will go ahead in some capacity on Sunday, despite
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  Speaker 1: the Court's rejection of the Palestine Action Group's argument that
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  Speaker 1: Israel has committed a genocide in Gaza. What does this
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  Speaker 1: mean for social cohesion in Australia and around the globe?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think, well, it certainly doesn't help social cohesion
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  Speaker 2: in Australia with regards to what has been a surging
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  Speaker 2: issue of anti Semitism the past two years.
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  Speaker 3: But what's always.
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  Speaker 2: Remained very confusing, at least for me, with regard to
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  Speaker 2: this protest, is why they haven't been out in force
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  Speaker 2: calling for Hamas to accept this deal. This deal to
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  Speaker 2: release the hostages and to end the war has been
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  Speaker 2: on the table for a long enough period of time,
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  Speaker 2: and instead we've had people rallying for protests with regard
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  Speaker 2: to a so called genocide occurring at the hands of Israel. Really,
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  Speaker 2: what these protesters should have been doing is hitting the
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  Speaker 2: streets and calling for an end to the war and
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  Speaker 2: calling for Hamas to sign the deal. But they haven't
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  Speaker 2: done that, So I think that exposes their true intentions,
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  Speaker 2: and I think no one would be fooled into thinking
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  Speaker 2: the work on anti Semitism in Australia is done in Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Liam and I have been walking around speaking to people
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  Speaker 2: about the issues that are going on here and the
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  Speaker 2: first thing they say when we tell them we're from
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  Speaker 2: Australia is what the hell is going on in your country?
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  Speaker 2: And they've expressed genuine disappointment and regret at what is
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  Speaker 2: happening in Australia with regard to anti Semitism. They regard
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  Speaker 2: Australia as an unsafe environment for them as Israelis, and
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  Speaker 2: more broadly for Jews in general, and that is in
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  Speaker 2: large part a criticism of a government than hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: able to reign in this issue adequately.
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  Speaker 3: What Yoon is describing is in an isolated incident, and
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's happened a lot more this trip
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  Speaker 3: compared to some of our previous trips, so it's certainly
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  Speaker 3: not an isolated incident. For example, I was at Disingolf
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  Speaker 3: Fountain on Wednesday and this woman, she was seventy five
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  Speaker 3: years old. She comes up to me and as, you know,
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  Speaker 3: where are you from? I was taking some photos and
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  Speaker 3: chatting to people, and I say, I'm from Australian and
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  Speaker 3: she physically scoffed at that. So that's the reaction to
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  Speaker 3: that a lot of people have had when we've told
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  Speaker 3: them where we're from.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Bashan and Liam Mendez are in Israel for the Australian.
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  Speaker 1: You can read the latest on the Middle East piece
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  Speaker 1: deal right now at the Australian dot com dot au