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- 1:25Speaker 2: So yeah, I understand that.
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- 2:03Speaker 3: or not a video, but a article on how you
- 2:07Speaker 3: know the horrors of the manisphere, which I guess we're adjacent,
- 2:11Speaker 3: which means we're the epicenter of it according to the logic,
- 2:15Speaker 3: the moral circle logic of the Smash Patriarchy party.
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- 3:59Speaker 1: Brian instructions? Okay, all right, you won't flappy flip it on?
- 4:04Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, thank you, all right, I got flappy back.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Well, it's not just it's not just so that you
- 4:11Speaker 1: your mouth is moving. It so that people in the
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- 4:21Speaker 2: I got you. Okay, I understand.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Everything is everything should be sorted now. And okay, let's
- 4:29Speaker 3: let's shall we begin the article?
- 4:31Speaker 1: Sure, I'll begin the article. So the article is called
- 4:35Speaker 1: Inside the Manisphere, Where Misogyny Wears a Suit, A world
- 4:39Speaker 1: of one side of monogamy believers who think men are
- 4:42Speaker 1: in danger by on had.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Sandu monogamy believers.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Uh what monogamy believers? One side of monography?
- 4:55Speaker 2: One sided? Like that's the whole manisphere, is it?
- 5:00Speaker 1: Mhm?
- 5:00Speaker 3: Does that also include the Christians aside from the Mormons,
- 5:04Speaker 3: who I've heard aren't really Christians.
- 5:06Speaker 1: They're just married to multiple women at the same time.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Yeah, So.
- 5:15Speaker 3: The entire manosphere and the interesting interestingly enough, that like
- 5:18Speaker 3: the one sided monogamy was just recent as far as
- 5:21Speaker 3: I can tell, I don't recall the pickup artists promoting
- 5:25Speaker 3: that or anyone else really up to. Like, I mean,
- 5:30Speaker 3: when did you first start hearing about the one sided monogamy.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Brian in the Louis Thereaux documentary?
- 5:37Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, six months came up.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's the first time I ever heard it. Me.
- 5:44Speaker 3: No, this is this is like a defining feature, is it?
- 5:48Speaker 3: One sided monogamy, which honestly really.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Suits the whole push for in.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Feminism that the expectations of monogamy placed on women are
- 6:02Speaker 3: actually patriarchal control. So this is like the inverse I believe.
- 6:07Speaker 3: But anyway, I just find that interesting that suddenly the
- 6:10Speaker 3: manosphere is one sided monogamy, Like that just came out
- 6:13Speaker 3: of nowhere, and now it's the thing. It's the central
- 6:16Speaker 3: pillar of evil, I guess. Except wouldn't you also have
- 6:21Speaker 3: to question the fact that Islam also promotes plural marriage,
- 6:25Speaker 3: or at least allows it allows what or allows a
- 6:30Speaker 3: man to marry more than one woman?
- 6:32Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, Well I think they have an issue
- 6:35Speaker 1: with all of that too. I mean, we're talking about
- 6:37Speaker 1: the people who wrote this article.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they do, though.
- 6:42Speaker 3: I mean, I've never heard them call the Muslims out
- 6:44Speaker 3: for multiple wives and marriage like that. I mean, you no,
- 6:50Speaker 3: I guess it's just a Manisphere thing, which is definitely
- 6:53Speaker 3: not an Islam thing, even though they've been doing.
- 6:55Speaker 2: It for millennium.
- 6:57Speaker 3: As far as I know, the manosphere just started talking
- 6:59Speaker 3: about it six months ago and only has a few
- 7:03Speaker 3: practitioners of it. But anyway, yeah, that's the defining feature.
- 7:07Speaker 2: I mean, what do I know.
- 7:08Speaker 3: I'm not even a part of it, except I get
- 7:10Speaker 3: lumped in somehow. All right, Brian, do you want to
- 7:13Speaker 3: start reading?
- 7:15Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so back to this non members can read.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Oh sorry, we thought it was only Andrew Tate, but
- 7:26Speaker 1: sadly it's a full blown ecosystem now Amru Foodle a
- 7:32Speaker 1: former's special techt Amru. That's the name of the person.
- 7:36Speaker 2: I'm actually.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a delayed what I apologize. That was
- 7:42Speaker 3: a little bit off off the tempo of what you
- 7:45Speaker 3: were saying, an entire ecosystem. I thought we were an
- 7:48Speaker 3: entire ecosystem for years. I don't know if I should
- 7:52Speaker 3: say we do I even belong? Like, how does this work?
- 7:55Speaker 3: How does membership in this work. It seems flexible somehow,
- 7:58Speaker 3: or elastic. When they want to discredit you, you're you're
- 8:02Speaker 3: You're part of the manisphere, and they never want to
- 8:05Speaker 3: credit you. So guess you're always part of the manosphere.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Except I'm pretty sure the manosphere doesn't want us fuckers.
- 8:12Speaker 3: They don't want men's rights and activists. He is, We're
- 8:15Speaker 3: the lame o's or something. Oh okay, continue.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Yeah, So Amru Foodle, former special tactical you know, agent
- 8:25Speaker 1: with the Department of Homeland Security turned YouTuber said, bitch,
- 8:29Speaker 1: it ain't equal. I am the dictator. You are the subordinate.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Women love guys like this. That's the guy for Fresh
- 8:36Speaker 1: and Fit. That's his that's just his real name. I
- 8:39Speaker 1: understand why you called himself fresh and Fit instead of
- 8:41Speaker 1: Amru Fuddle.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm sorry. I'm named Shaving. Oh god.
- 8:49Speaker 1: He's like Sudanese.
- 8:51Speaker 3: So originally, yeah, I'm a horrible uncouth American except I'm Canadian,
- 8:58Speaker 3: but I'm still uncouth. All right, we're going at a
- 9:01Speaker 3: person's ethnic name like that.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Justin Waller, it's beautiful. I'm sorry, it's okay,
- 9:10Speaker 1: Justin Waller said, I am in a monogamous relationship, but
- 9:13Speaker 1: the monogamy is only from the mother of my child,
- 9:15Speaker 1: not from me, because women don't want to sleep with
- 9:18Speaker 1: other men when they love a man. And HS Tiki Taki,
- 9:24Speaker 1: twenty four year old influencer wants a fugitive whose main
- 9:27Speaker 1: business model is promoting OnlyFans girls, his own porn clips
- 9:30Speaker 1: and some illicit trading websites, said, I will disown my
- 9:33Speaker 1: own daughter if she ever does OnlyFans and many more
- 9:36Speaker 1: influencers whose videos have racked up billions of views. No,
- 9:40Speaker 1: they're not aliens, they're polished, sham rich men in suits
- 9:44Speaker 1: that drive a Lamborghini.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Sham rich.
- 9:46Speaker 1: What the hell sham rich. I don't know, it's just
- 9:49Speaker 1: what they wrote. Sham rich. No idea what that means.
- 9:53Speaker 1: The guy who wrote this is from India. So maybe
- 9:56Speaker 1: this is like a certain I don't know what riches.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Maybe it's because they're rich off of a sham, like
- 10:03Speaker 1: they scam people and make money.
- 10:06Speaker 3: Yeah, sham rich. Okay, still rich. It's just rich based
- 10:11Speaker 3: off of con artists.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Or unscrupulous Yeah, unscrupulous practices.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Right, Certainly we.
- 10:16Speaker 3: Need to worry about, you know, the millions that the
- 10:19Speaker 3: manosphere gets through so called unscrupulous package practices, but everybody
- 10:23Speaker 3: else is fine, Like, yeah, all of the billions upon
- 10:28Speaker 3: trillions that the financial extractors get under the cover of
- 10:32Speaker 3: the moral busy bodies, the feminists, that's okay, well, but
- 10:36Speaker 3: we'll give them a past. We don't even know about that.
- 10:38Speaker 3: It's not possible to even see it. You have to
- 10:41Speaker 3: be yeah, you know, a retard max autist like me
- 10:46Speaker 3: to see it.
- 10:47Speaker 2: All right, let's let's.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Keep going, all right, So they are polished, sham rich
- 10:52Speaker 1: men who ensuits that drive a Lamborghini to them, they
- 10:55Speaker 1: are liberators, some kind of independence movement is going on
- 10:58Speaker 1: in their heads. Pandemic of classic misogyny. I watched the
- 11:03Speaker 1: Netflix documentary MANI sphere.
- 11:06Speaker 2: All, so he knows everything.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, he watched the Man. He watched the documentary
- 11:10Speaker 1: on Netflix, so he's an expert, in which the host
- 11:13Speaker 1: Louis Thereaux asked various alpha, gamma and beta men about
- 11:17Speaker 1: their views, especially what exactly they are trying to save
- 11:19Speaker 1: the world from. I don't think they're trying to save
- 11:22Speaker 1: the world but okay, Louis asked, Yeah, go ahead.
- 11:26Speaker 3: No, they aren't trying to save the world. They're not
- 11:28Speaker 3: even really trying to help other men, to be honest.
- 11:31Speaker 1: No, no, no, they're they're just trying to essentially align.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Their pocket and get their bag.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Uh so I mean like it's but you know it's this.
- 11:45Speaker 3: These are the these are not exactly Uh, I mean,
- 11:48Speaker 3: if you're gonna go after the voles in the pit
- 11:50Speaker 3: of bowles, these are not are hardly the largest. So yeah, anyway, continue, Brian,
- 11:55Speaker 3: Sorry for the introjection.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Louis asked Justin if he was married, and he answered no,
- 12:03Speaker 1: though his wife later contradicted him on camera. The main
- 12:06Speaker 1: reason they don't admit their relationships is that they believe
- 12:09Speaker 1: alpha males only love their work, should be promiscuous, but
- 12:13Speaker 1: can't love a woman as it would threaten their egos.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Okay, he is reacting like there it was it. No,
- 12:24Speaker 3: it was the it was the ginger guy.
- 12:27Speaker 2: I don't remember his name.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Waller Waller, right.
- 12:32Speaker 3: He is reacting to some reality in the current and
- 12:36Speaker 3: dating landscape, like women are going for like that the
- 12:43Speaker 3: bar keeps rising. I actually did a whole bunch of
- 12:48Speaker 3: work with the General Social Survey and uh the ACS,
- 12:53Speaker 3: which I cannot, for the life of me tell you
- 12:55Speaker 3: what the ACS sands for. I'm pretty sure it's like
- 12:57Speaker 3: an American Community survey, and so I guess I could
- 13:01Speaker 3: make a guess, but don't don't quote me on this
- 13:03Speaker 3: ACS and the GSCs. And I've been looking at the
- 13:08Speaker 3: the amount of money a man needs to earn over
- 13:14Speaker 3: the last century in order to be married, right and
- 13:19Speaker 3: common law, you know, sometimes common law absorbs a little
- 13:23Speaker 3: bit of that, but not enough to make that much
- 13:24Speaker 3: of a difference. And what has happened, and this is
- 13:27Speaker 3: adjusted for inflation, is that the lower quintile, like the
- 13:33Speaker 3: lower lowest quintile of men, so the lowest of income
- 13:36Speaker 3: that's around like ten thousand or less dollars, used to
- 13:41Speaker 3: marry at almost but even plus ninety percent, right, And
- 13:46Speaker 3: this is adjusted for inflation. Now it's at like seventy
- 13:49Speaker 3: and it's gone down to fifty so or even less.
- 13:54Speaker 3: So the amount of money that men need to get
- 13:58Speaker 3: married has is increase, as is increasing for every single cohort.
- 14:04Speaker 3: So men need to make more to even get married.
- 14:08Speaker 3: And that that's uh. That again, that has been something
- 14:10Speaker 3: that's increasing over time. So women's standards, and this isn't
- 14:14Speaker 3: just relative, so this isn't like again, this is inflation.
- 14:17Speaker 2: It adjusted.
- 14:19Speaker 3: While women have gained access to the workplace, quote unquote,
- 14:23Speaker 3: their standards for what a man needs to make to
- 14:26Speaker 3: marry have increased, and they've increased so much that marriage
- 14:32Speaker 3: overall is decreasing because women want, like they literally want
- 14:38Speaker 3: a man who makes more than the average man, all
- 14:41Speaker 3: of them. This wasn't the case like one hundred years ago.
- 14:44Speaker 2: It's the case now. And these standards every single generation.
- 14:48Speaker 3: Go up and up and up and up. And if this,
- 14:51Speaker 3: if this continues, which it has for a century, it's
- 14:55Speaker 3: just going to keep continuing. Women won't marry at all
- 14:58Speaker 3: because no man will have the income necessary to get
- 15:02Speaker 3: above that bar. So the idea that women have somehow
- 15:07Speaker 3: become more interested in the man himself over the last century, No,
- 15:12Speaker 3: absolutely not.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Women are far.
- 15:15Speaker 3: More materialists now than they were one hundred years ago.
- 15:19Speaker 3: They have far higher expectations in terms of income, and
- 15:23Speaker 3: income is the big kahuna. Like, they have far more
- 15:26Speaker 3: expectations in terms of income than they ever have. And
- 15:31Speaker 3: get this, this is what really blew my mind. You
- 15:35Speaker 3: take those expectations that women have in terms of a
- 15:38Speaker 3: man's income, which have increased beyond average like before like
- 15:41Speaker 3: one hundred years ago, even men under the average income
- 15:44Speaker 3: could get married. Now there's no hope in hell for them.
- 15:47Speaker 3: And even men at.
- 15:48Speaker 2: The average income.
- 15:49Speaker 3: That's a little sketchy, right, But if you take the
- 15:54Speaker 3: average income not of a man, but of what a
- 15:56Speaker 3: woman wants a man to make before she will marry
- 16:00Speaker 3: marry him, which again has increased over the last century
- 16:03Speaker 3: adjusted for inflation, you have to double that over double
- 16:08Speaker 3: that before a liberal woman will marry a man. So
- 16:12Speaker 3: the liberal women's expectations of income are like two point
- 16:17Speaker 3: three times higher than a conservative woman's.
- 16:21Speaker 2: Do you believe that?
- 16:25Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it's shocking.
- 16:27Speaker 3: But if you're a liberal man, and this is controlled
- 16:30Speaker 3: for like education, uh, location, so urban versus rural versus
- 16:35Speaker 3: suburbs everything as much as I could with the General
- 16:38Speaker 3: Social Survey, if you're a liberal man, you better dig
- 16:42Speaker 3: in deep because you're gonna have to make two point
- 16:44Speaker 3: three times more than a conservative man to get married.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Because liberal women, you know, love you for who you are.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Bullshit.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Liberal women are the most mercenary, the most materialistic women
- 16:58Speaker 3: in American society. Now well, having said that, conservative women
- 17:02Speaker 3: are actually the liberal women of twenty five years ago,
- 17:05Speaker 3: So what conservative women, which is also well above average.
- 17:08Speaker 3: They don't want a man with just an average income,
- 17:11Speaker 3: they want a man with well above average income. Well,
- 17:13Speaker 3: conservative women are the liberal women from about twenty five
- 17:17Speaker 3: years ago, so they're going up too.
- 17:20Speaker 2: All women are.
- 17:21Speaker 3: And like I said, this progression is just keeps going
- 17:27Speaker 3: over the years, So eventually women are going to be
- 17:30Speaker 3: wanting men who are like well above like the top
- 17:36Speaker 3: five percent of earning if this keeps going, and it's
- 17:42Speaker 3: basically destroying marriage. Literally, women's hypergamy is destroying marriage in
- 17:48Speaker 3: the West. And I've said before that if we were
- 17:52Speaker 3: to be if men were able to meet women's income needs. Well,
- 17:57Speaker 3: first of all, it's all relative, so if men could
- 18:00Speaker 3: get into the top quintile, the top quintile changes, of course,
- 18:04Speaker 3: so as it's always a moving target. But if men
- 18:06Speaker 3: could do that, we need another four earths to just
- 18:10Speaker 3: to cover the amount of material goods those.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Women would be buying.
- 18:15Speaker 3: So it's like this, how the hypergamy isn't just destroying marriage,
- 18:20Speaker 3: it's like a freaking environmental halo lost in the making.
- 18:25Speaker 3: It's like, well, these women have put the continuation of
- 18:29Speaker 3: our planet in the balance with actually get having enough children.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Having enough marriage is enough children to continue the human race.
- 18:37Speaker 3: That's a that's a standard. I don't think men really should,
- 18:43Speaker 3: you know, just be like, Okay, we gotta do this, guys.
- 18:45Speaker 3: I think actually at this point we need to challenge
- 18:48Speaker 3: what's ratcheting up this hypergamy in women. But to get
- 18:51Speaker 3: back to Waller, I mean, he's reacting to this situation, right,
- 18:56Speaker 3: And this situation is not only a situation in which
- 18:59Speaker 3: is wife probably wouldn't be with him if he wasn't
- 19:02Speaker 3: making as much as he does, but she probably also
- 19:05Speaker 3: wouldn't be with him if he couldn't induce that sense
- 19:08Speaker 3: of fomo in her by dating other women, right, because
- 19:12Speaker 3: he's got to make her feel like she's got a prize.
- 19:16Speaker 3: And that's a constant, you know, treadmill he's on. If
- 19:19Speaker 3: he you know, once he gets gray, once he gains
- 19:21Speaker 3: a few pounds, if he get God forbid to get
- 19:24Speaker 3: sick with it out, she's gonna be out the door
- 19:26Speaker 3: like a like a rat out of an aqueduct, like
- 19:29Speaker 3: a greased rat out of an aqueduct.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Be gone, and she'll have half his money on the
- 19:34Speaker 2: way out.
- 19:35Speaker 3: As soon as he becomes an inconvenience to her or
- 19:38Speaker 3: if he doesn't induce the fear of missing out tingles,
- 19:41Speaker 3: she's gone, right, I mean, and you know, that's a
- 19:47Speaker 3: situation that he's reacting to the situation and the dating landscape,
- 19:52Speaker 3: and the situation is that women don't consider a relationship
- 19:58Speaker 3: with a man to be its own value.
- 20:01Speaker 2: And that wasn't like I'm pretty sure.
- 20:04Speaker 3: In the past when women were expected to work alongside
- 20:09Speaker 3: their men to build their family, there was a bit
- 20:11Speaker 3: more of an appreciation there.
- 20:13Speaker 2: That's gone. Now it's all money, money, money.
- 20:16Speaker 3: And get my bag and get his bag, and he better,
- 20:20Speaker 3: he better date other women, so that I feel like
- 20:22Speaker 3: he's still got it. And the instant he stops because
- 20:26Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't want to end up with kids with
- 20:28Speaker 3: syphilis on their eyeballs. You know, I don't want him anymore.
- 20:32Speaker 3: You're gonna drop him and take his money. Like it's
- 20:34Speaker 3: an incredibly mercenary world now, And it's like you can
- 20:40Speaker 3: see it in the statistics in the General Social Survey
- 20:43Speaker 3: and what women expect. So yeah, and of course this
- 20:47Speaker 3: guy is not recognizing the fact that this manosphere is
- 20:50Speaker 3: responding to that that Walker is responding to that that
- 20:54Speaker 3: he is deep, he is caught in the cyclops case.
- 21:00Speaker 3: He's caught in the same pressures as every other man.
- 21:04Speaker 3: He's on the same treadmill. He just right now he's
- 21:08Speaker 3: sort of winning.
- 21:11Speaker 2: In a sense.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Well, okay, he's not legally getting. What I'm saying is
- 21:20Speaker 1: this guy who's writing this article is trying to suggest
- 21:24Speaker 1: that Justin Waller is lying about not being married and
- 21:31Speaker 1: that his wife had to call him out. But that's
- 21:35Speaker 1: not true. He's not married on paper. He's not married
- 21:39Speaker 1: via the state. They have made a private decision to
- 21:44Speaker 1: be together but not involve the government, which is probably
- 21:49Speaker 1: the smart thing to do. And of course the author
- 21:52Speaker 1: of this article and Louis Thureaux, they don't seem to care.
- 21:56Speaker 1: They think, oh, no, you're a man. If you aren't
- 21:59Speaker 1: a cheater, then you're married. And if you're married, then
- 22:01Speaker 1: that means you have a marriage like on paper, which
- 22:05Speaker 1: means the government can take half your shite if she
- 22:07Speaker 1: decides that she doesn't like you anymore, or she wants
- 22:10Speaker 1: to be free, or whatever the excuse is. So well
- 22:14Speaker 1: Waller is I Look, I have a lot of criticism
- 22:16Speaker 1: above him, but that's not one of them. Yeah, that's
- 22:20Speaker 1: a smart thing to do.
- 22:21Speaker 3: So yeah, no, that's that one hundred percent if if
- 22:25Speaker 3: he's not in a community property state, and if he
- 22:30Speaker 3: you know, if she leaves him, she does not get
- 22:32Speaker 3: a very sympathetic judge.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Because that's not like.
- 22:38Speaker 3: The thing is that there are a lot of situations
- 22:40Speaker 3: where men will get that kind of uh being in
- 22:44Speaker 3: living with a woman somehow ends up Yeah, you're married
- 22:48Speaker 3: to her, and of course if he's had kids with her,
- 22:50Speaker 3: there's always the child support, which can be substantial.
- 22:55Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's he's.
- 22:58Speaker 3: Probably I guess he's lessened his potential liabilities, but they're
- 23:04Speaker 3: still there. There's still the potential of child support, There's
- 23:07Speaker 3: still the potential of the sympathetic judge, there's still the
- 23:09Speaker 3: potential of the community property state. I don't know if
- 23:13Speaker 3: she can actually file in a separate state or if
- 23:18Speaker 3: it's based on residents. I mean, this is not something
- 23:21Speaker 3: men could do in Canada because we have common law
- 23:24Speaker 3: after about six months, so remember to move out at
- 23:29Speaker 3: the six month mark. But yeah, this is but again,
- 23:35Speaker 3: he's responding to something. He's responding not just to the
- 23:40Speaker 3: legal situation that men are.
- 23:41Speaker 2: In in which they bear all of the risks.
- 23:47Speaker 3: When a relationship goes out when a marriage goes south.
- 23:51Speaker 3: He's also dealing with the same kind of attitudes that
- 23:54Speaker 3: women have today, which are very mercenary, and I would
- 23:59Speaker 3: argue they are a direct result of feminism sounding.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Two generations of women.
- 24:05Speaker 3: The heterosexuality is the site of female oppression. So once
- 24:09Speaker 3: you believe that about your relationship with a man, then
- 24:13Speaker 3: the only category you have left to maximize is that
- 24:17Speaker 3: you be oppressed by the best man you can get,
- 24:21Speaker 3: and you have no real loyalty to him, because why
- 24:24Speaker 3: would you. He's oppressing you. There's no relationship there. It's
- 24:29Speaker 3: just whatever you can get out of him and how
- 24:33Speaker 3: long he gives you. The fear of missing out tingles.
- 24:36Speaker 3: It's sort of depressing. Anyway, Let's continue with the article
- 24:40Speaker 3: because I know we have a bit of a time constraint.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Yep. So, but then he has he said he has
- 24:47Speaker 1: kids whose number is unknown to him. At least that's
- 24:49Speaker 1: what he's trying to portray. This was simply to show
- 24:52Speaker 1: how many women he had sex with that he doesn't
- 24:55Speaker 1: even remember.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Are you sure this is not a characterization by this man,
- 24:59Speaker 3: because remember that in the documentary.
- 25:01Speaker 1: I think it did come up that, you know, because
- 25:04Speaker 1: here's the thing. Like all the guys in that documentary, Yeah,
- 25:09Speaker 1: all the ones that were highlighted that were supposed Manisphere influencers,
- 25:14Speaker 1: they are selling something and they're constantly in salesman mode.
- 25:19Speaker 1: So even when Louis Threeaux was like trying to like,
- 25:22Speaker 1: you know, get them in a gotcha corner of them
- 25:24Speaker 1: with some rhetoric or whatever, clever editing, whatever it was,
- 25:28Speaker 1: they were just like, I'm gonna use this to sell
- 25:31Speaker 1: my product, which is essentially you know, men's success, their
- 25:36Speaker 1: access to women, whatever it is. And so Justin Waller
- 25:40Speaker 1: did say something to the effect of, yeah, I might
- 25:43Speaker 1: have kids out there somewhere, but I don't think it's
- 25:47Speaker 1: something that he truly believes. I think it's something that
- 25:50Speaker 1: makes him sound that much more. I guess, you know,
- 25:54Speaker 1: alpha whatever, so that dudes might be like willing to
- 25:59Speaker 1: pay for his service. Now, that's what I think. We
- 26:02Speaker 1: don't know for sure. We know that there were a
- 26:04Speaker 1: couple of kids in the movie, but if there's other ones,
- 26:07Speaker 1: we don't know. But I will say that, like I said,
- 26:10Speaker 1: Fresh and Fit, Uh, Justin Waller and hs Ti Kataki
- 26:14Speaker 1: are all selling something. And Louis Thureaux and the guy
- 26:18Speaker 1: who wrote this article, and everybody who's reacted to it
- 26:21Speaker 1: has essentially helped them sell it, and no one has
- 26:24Speaker 1: asked the question why does the market for this exist
- 26:27Speaker 1: in the first place, Like why, like what what could
- 26:32Speaker 1: these guys be selling that other people want? Why do
- 26:36Speaker 1: they want what they are seeing? Men? Yeah, men, Yes,
- 26:39Speaker 1: that's what I mean.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't to be honest, I don't
- 26:44Speaker 3: see how giving this man money is going to help
- 26:48Speaker 3: any man do anything, but because I think what he's
- 26:52Speaker 3: selling is the impression that you.
- 26:54Speaker 2: Could be like him, and.
- 26:55Speaker 3: It's you know what, do you know what's interesting to
- 27:00Speaker 3: me is that the guys at the interview that were
- 27:02Speaker 3: the fans, Yeah, they had a completely different kind of attitude,
- 27:08Speaker 3: didn't they Like they were talking about taking responsibility, you know,
- 27:14Speaker 3: more of the standard custodial type of masculinity as opposed
- 27:18Speaker 3: to whatever it was Waller was selling.
- 27:20Speaker 2: I don't know if that was an effect of.
- 27:21Speaker 3: What theoro ur decided to focus on with these individuals,
- 27:26Speaker 3: but it seemed like the fans were at a completely
- 27:29Speaker 3: different like wavelength.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Did you notice that, Yeah, of course, But I think
- 27:34Speaker 1: it was a matter of Yeah, I think Thaw and
- 27:37Speaker 1: his guys that were editing. They had a plan. Their
- 27:40Speaker 1: plan was to say, okay, look, we can't claim we know,
- 27:45Speaker 1: we can't claim that there is nothing about men that's
- 27:48Speaker 1: worth anything, not at least not out loud. So instead,
- 27:53Speaker 1: what we'll do is we'll say, and we can't pretend
- 27:56Speaker 1: like there aren't problems, right, Like that's that's a no go.
- 28:00Speaker 1: They can't do that. So what they'll do is they'll say,
- 28:03Speaker 1: what we're going to do is we're gonna use these
- 28:06Speaker 1: two dudes. They were like two dudes. They were I
- 28:09Speaker 1: don't know, brothers or friends or something, but there were
- 28:11Speaker 1: two dudes that were trying to like, you know, like
- 28:16Speaker 1: you said, they wanted to be stronger, successful, able to
- 28:20Speaker 1: provide and protect for the people that they care about
- 28:23Speaker 1: in their life, and they were using They were going
- 28:26Speaker 1: to these this guys justin Waller for their support. Maybe
- 28:30Speaker 1: they had lots of outlets, I don't know, doesn't matter.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Luis Therou's plan was, let's make these guys look sympathetic
- 28:37Speaker 1: so that it makes these mix the guys who are
- 28:39Speaker 1: actually targeting the Menisphere guys look like even bigger pieces
- 28:42Speaker 1: of garbage because they're taking advantage of these people by
- 28:45Speaker 1: grifting off of them. And even if there's truth to that,
- 28:49Speaker 1: which there might be, it's irrelevant because again, you haven't
- 28:52Speaker 1: asked a question, why do these men Why are they
- 28:56Speaker 1: in this position to begin with? Why are in a
- 28:58Speaker 1: position where they're like looking for help from guys that
- 29:01Speaker 1: probably don't have their best interest, to be fair, but
- 29:05Speaker 1: they're there anyway because no one else is. Why is that?
- 29:09Speaker 1: That's the question that the guy who wrote this article
- 29:12Speaker 1: won't answer, what Louis Thureau won't answer, what no one
- 29:15Speaker 1: in the media will answer, and they're just gonna pretend
- 29:17Speaker 1: like it doesn't exist. And instead they're just gonna say,
- 29:20Speaker 1: the problem is the men who are offering something, even
- 29:24Speaker 1: if it is you know, bullshit, even if it is
- 29:28Speaker 1: ultimately like self serving whatever, but they don't but they're
- 29:33Speaker 1: not offering anything else. So and they'll call those guys
- 29:37Speaker 1: scumbacks too. If those guys are successful, if they manage
- 29:40Speaker 1: to pull themselves out of that situation, and they find themselves,
- 29:44Speaker 1: you know, a family or whatever it is they're looking for,
- 29:46Speaker 1: and maybe they want to like pay it forward and
- 29:49Speaker 1: like offer their own advice at some point start their
- 29:52Speaker 1: own business to do that stuff. They'll go after them too,
- 29:55Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, it's not about
- 29:58Speaker 1: what those men need. It's about the fact that they're
- 30:00Speaker 1: taking attention away from the way that they want things done.
- 30:06Speaker 1: That's they They're basically telling men to just get back
- 30:08Speaker 1: on the plantation, shut up, you know, stop complaining, and
- 30:12Speaker 1: don't watch these guys like Andrew Tate and Tiki Taki
- 30:15Speaker 1: and Justin Waller whoever, because those are bad men, and
- 30:18Speaker 1: you're not a bad man. You're a good man. And
- 30:20Speaker 1: a good man doesn't make himself better, doesn't try to
- 30:23Speaker 1: do anything. Yeah, I'm here. Can you not hear me?
- 30:26Speaker 3: Oh?
- 30:27Speaker 2: I think maybe I dropped out for a sec. Nope, continue, No,
- 30:30Speaker 2: that's it.
- 30:31Speaker 1: I'm done, basically. Yeah, I'm just saying that, Yeah, he
- 30:34Speaker 1: doesn't offer anything because.
- 30:36Speaker 3: I'm looking at for example, that a recent uh November.
- 30:41Speaker 3: By the way, guys, November is associated with the psychology
- 30:44Speaker 3: of men in masculinities field. So the November people are yeah,
- 30:49Speaker 3: they're not your friends, I'll just put it that way.
- 30:52Speaker 3: But November and the psychology of men in masculinities field
- 30:55Speaker 3: people are now after sixty five masculiniti's instruments that are
- 31:02Speaker 3: all negative They're they're going to try to create a
- 31:05Speaker 3: positive masculinity instrument because of the situation where they're they're
- 31:11Speaker 3: seeing men being driven towards the uh, the tiki talkies
- 31:17Speaker 3: and the wallers, and so they're gonna they're gonna try
- 31:22Speaker 3: to create. And it's what it's going to be about,
- 31:24Speaker 3: is what it looks like for a man to thrive.
- 31:27Speaker 2: And I'm like thinking, right, the bet you're.
- 31:31Speaker 3: Really using that kind of relational web feminine phrasing. But
- 31:35Speaker 3: what is it to thrive?
- 31:36Speaker 2: Brian?
- 31:39Speaker 1: Thriving?
- 31:40Speaker 2: What is thriving for a man?
- 31:42Speaker 3: I shouldn't laugh, but I should just listen.
- 31:45Speaker 2: So can you answer that question?
- 31:48Speaker 1: Thriving for a man? Yeah, it's just like knowing that
- 31:53Speaker 1: he has the ability and to like, I mean, to
- 32:01Speaker 1: basically be of use to people. I'll ultimately like have
- 32:06Speaker 1: a purpose. Is that what you you mean to like, succeed,
- 32:09Speaker 1: I don't know, attract someone, I don't know, if the
- 32:12Speaker 1: opposite sex, our family continue his legacy. That's kind of normal.
- 32:15Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that what they're what they're they're looking
- 32:18Speaker 3: at is how do men thrive without while renunciating their
- 32:23Speaker 3: masculinity and in a society in which there's a gigantic,
- 32:28Speaker 3: trillion dollar industry that specifically targets their ability to be
- 32:31Speaker 3: attractive to women Like that's I mean, we can talk
- 32:35Speaker 3: about the tiki talkies and the waders, but the ultimate
- 32:40Speaker 3: problem here is really simple. For the last fifty years,
- 32:48Speaker 3: we've promoted a narrative in which we essentially destroyed the
- 32:54Speaker 3: worth that men bring to a relationship by virtue of
- 32:57Speaker 3: being men. Right that that entire narrative of men oppressing
- 33:02Speaker 3: women like that destroys men's worth as men in terms
- 33:07Speaker 3: of relationships. I don't know if this is confusing to people,
- 33:10Speaker 3: but once you do that, men have to earn more
- 33:13Speaker 3: to get into a relationship, which means that more and
- 33:16Speaker 3: more of them are priced out, and that creates some discomfort.
- 33:23Speaker 3: And I mean, if you okay, I know this is
- 33:26Speaker 3: a bit of a segue, but I looked at the
- 33:29Speaker 3: like the zoologists have a creedo about how to properly
- 33:34Speaker 3: take care of animals, and one of the bullet points
- 33:38Speaker 3: in their credo is that if an animal is a
- 33:42Speaker 3: paara bonder, it should have access to mates and be
- 33:45Speaker 3: able to live its life and that's preferred arrangement and
- 33:49Speaker 3: not be forced into some other arrangement by its handlers.
- 33:52Speaker 2: And I'm like looking at this and I'm thinking, you know,
- 33:55Speaker 2: we treat animals better than men. And I'm not s
- 34:00Speaker 2: saying that men.
- 34:00Speaker 3: You know, like this, this should be a situation where
- 34:02Speaker 3: women are forced to be their partners. But again, like
- 34:06Speaker 3: we're we're literally creating where our society literally has constructed
- 34:10Speaker 3: a narrative that undermines men's mate value, which makes it
- 34:14Speaker 3: impossible or near impossible for them to find partners.
- 34:18Speaker 2: We don't have to continue to do that.
- 34:21Speaker 1: I don't.
- 34:22Speaker 3: I don't see that as part of anybody's human rights.
- 34:24Speaker 3: You know, there's some kind of thing written somewhere saying, oh, yes,
- 34:27Speaker 3: men must must be destroyed as as partners to women,
- 34:31Speaker 3: they must be seen as the worst possible choice for
- 34:34Speaker 3: a woman to make. That that needs to happen because
- 34:37Speaker 3: it's part of whatever ethical code. I don't see that.
- 34:41Speaker 3: So why do we have to do it? And why
- 34:44Speaker 3: do we have to like when the obvious problems result
- 34:48Speaker 3: from that, and you have an entire.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Generations of disenfranchised.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Men with no no marriage prospects, why do we have
- 34:58Speaker 3: to be so baffled? And then why do we have
- 35:02Speaker 3: to stigmatize everybody who points it out. And the other
- 35:06Speaker 3: thing is, I don't think that the mainstream media really
- 35:09Speaker 3: is that against the Walkers and the Tates and the
- 35:12Speaker 3: Tiki talkies of the world Brian.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Waller Waller Waller Waller's of the world.
- 35:18Speaker 3: I don't think they're that against them because they don't
- 35:21Speaker 3: really address the problem.
- 35:22Speaker 2: They don't talk about it.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Oh. No, those guys are good for them. That's why
- 35:25Speaker 1: they That's why they make documentaries and write articles and
- 35:29Speaker 1: even saying use with them. Because these guys are good
- 35:32Speaker 1: for them. They need them. They're part of the narrative.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Wink wink, nudge, nudge.
- 35:37Speaker 3: Don't listen to Andrew Tate because I mean, the thing is,
- 35:41Speaker 3: the real dangerous narrative is why are we undermining men's
- 35:47Speaker 3: reproductive value, reproductive and relationship value in the first place?
- 35:51Speaker 2: Like why are we doing that? Why don't we stop
- 35:55Speaker 2: doing that? Maybe our birth rates will recover.
- 36:00Speaker 3: Yeah, you think, like possibly, oh, stranger things, he's the
- 36:06Speaker 3: sight of female oppression.
- 36:07Speaker 2: Maybe heterosexuality we'll recover. Who knows.
- 36:12Speaker 3: Okay, we should probably do a level or read more,
- 36:17Speaker 3: or you can continue to eat your supper.
- 36:20Speaker 1: Now I'll read a little bit more and then we'll
- 36:22Speaker 1: do a level we'll get okay. Well, it stems from
- 36:28Speaker 1: the idea that men with more sexual partners are seen
- 36:30Speaker 1: as a display of how desirable they are, while women
- 36:33Speaker 1: in the same situation are blatantly labeled whoores and sluts because,
- 36:37Speaker 1: according to their beliefs, these women somehow have disgraced their
- 36:40Speaker 1: father's honor. What exactly is that honor and how someone
- 36:45Speaker 1: else's honor is placed in someone else's, especially women's private parts,
- 36:49Speaker 1: remains an all time mystery. Is it really the twenty
- 36:53Speaker 1: first century? I was first impressed by his status that
- 36:57Speaker 1: he was flexing on in the documentary, and he usually
- 37:00Speaker 1: does the same on his YouTube videos. But then from
- 37:03Speaker 1: sources I got to know that most of these men
- 37:05Speaker 1: in the manisphere rent these things. They lie about their
- 37:09Speaker 1: wealth just to lorateens by becoming the savior of men's mankind.
- 37:14Speaker 1: They are probably those men who make money by following
- 37:16Speaker 1: this crappy quote fake it till you make it. His godfather,
- 37:24Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, not literally his godfather is not only the
- 37:29Speaker 1: is not the only one now profiting from the dressed
- 37:31Speaker 1: up misogyny in English. His minions monetized snide remarks about
- 37:36Speaker 1: women gaining millions of Instagram followers. He then discussed his
- 37:39Speaker 1: flashy life. I have a threesome with other women along
- 37:42Speaker 1: with my wife. I am not a promoter of such
- 37:45Speaker 1: a lifestyle. Seriously, man, don't bargain with patriarchy. Your whole career,
- 37:51Speaker 1: if you want to call it a career, is actually
- 37:54Speaker 1: based on one and only one thing, to satisfy the crappy, alone,
- 37:58Speaker 1: jobless men who aren't in a relationship and could feel
- 38:01Speaker 1: good about themselves and their wrongdoings by thinking, at least
- 38:05Speaker 1: they are better than women. And now on Netflix you
- 38:08Speaker 1: say you are not a promoter.
- 38:12Speaker 3: Wow, wow, he's just he's just really going out on that,
- 38:17Speaker 3: like literally, and and this these are the people who
- 38:20Speaker 3: are baffled. Why what what did he call them? The
- 38:22Speaker 3: crappy jobless men? Right, they're baffled. Why these crappy jobless
- 38:27Speaker 3: men are drawn too, men that don't immediately punch them
- 38:30Speaker 3: in the teeth yep, by insulting them. And incidentally, it's
- 38:35Speaker 3: not just crappy jobless men, it's it's men all the
- 38:39Speaker 3: way up into like the third, the third, and fourth
- 38:41Speaker 3: quintile of freaking income like this is this is this
- 38:46Speaker 3: problem is not just unemployed men. If anything, you know,
- 38:51Speaker 3: the pookies and the tyrones have a benefit here. This
- 38:55Speaker 3: is this is the income quintiles from one to four right,
- 39:00Speaker 3: particularly for liberal men.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Liberal men are absolutely screwed.
- 39:05Speaker 3: Like the best thing a man can do for his
- 39:08Speaker 3: potential of actually getting married, don't be a liberal.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Just stop.
- 39:14Speaker 3: Like, I know that they're probably not gonna listen to me.
- 39:16Speaker 3: But if you want to get married, just don't be
- 39:18Speaker 3: on the left period. If you're a man, it's like
- 39:21Speaker 3: a huge penalty. But the thing is that so really
- 39:25Speaker 3: what we're talking about is the unmarriageable men are left,
- 39:29Speaker 3: which incidentally, the surveys of in cells tend to actually
- 39:36Speaker 3: land on this as well.
- 39:37Speaker 2: They are liberal men. There are men on the left.
- 39:40Speaker 3: There are men who are in the lower three quadrants
- 39:43Speaker 3: of income, which includes the average income. Guys the average
- 39:48Speaker 3: income isn't desirable. So we're not even talking about guys
- 39:50Speaker 3: with no job. We're talking about guys who don't aren't like,
- 39:55Speaker 3: aren't in upper middle class. At least everybody every man
- 39:58Speaker 3: below upper middle c glass is screwed in this system,
- 40:04Speaker 3: like it's crazy, and this is and this is getting
- 40:08Speaker 3: only getting worse. It's only marching higher, and these individuals.
- 40:12Speaker 3: All they have for the people who are caught in this,
- 40:14Speaker 3: the men who are caught in this, is oh, you're
- 40:17Speaker 3: just a crappy loser without a job, Get better, hygie,
- 40:20Speaker 3: and a bunch of insults about their personalities like oh,
- 40:25Speaker 3: it's so, isn't it a wonder?
- 40:27Speaker 1: Right?
- 40:27Speaker 3: And then they create they create this false dichotomy, like
- 40:31Speaker 3: the only people that these guys can listen to are
- 40:34Speaker 3: the Andrew Tates and the Wallers Wallers Waller Swaller, right, yes,
- 40:41Speaker 3: Walls yeah, Waller's tikie talkies and Andrew Tates.
- 40:46Speaker 2: Look, what did.
- 40:49Speaker 3: You do, guys, do to the Peterson's, the Warren Ferrells.
- 40:55Speaker 2: What did you do to those guys?
- 40:58Speaker 3: What did you do to the men's rights movement? Because
- 41:02Speaker 3: you remember, we were the big thing, the big horrible
- 41:05Speaker 3: boogeyman before it became the menosphere as far as I remember.
- 41:10Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm nuts about this, but what
- 41:13Speaker 3: and we were just talking about suicide, just talking about
- 41:17Speaker 3: the problems with divorce, the problems with male victims of
- 41:20Speaker 3: sexual assault and domestic violence, right, We're talking about all
- 41:23Speaker 3: of that stuff, and we got slammed and de boosted
- 41:30Speaker 3: and in the algorithm into silence almost you know, there's
- 41:34Speaker 3: just the few, the brave, the bitchy left grinding through
- 41:38Speaker 3: all of this. Right, so they have actually constructed this
- 41:43Speaker 3: dichotomy by day, I mean the mainstream media and who
- 41:46Speaker 3: they choose to point out. And then again they're driving
- 41:52Speaker 3: men to those people because of the last men standing
- 41:56Speaker 3: or seem to have any kind of viewership or attention
- 42:01Speaker 3: or beloved by the algorithm, and then they drive them
- 42:05Speaker 3: to it with their constant like you, this is the thing,
- 42:10Speaker 3: like the psychology of men in masculinities. So they literally
- 42:14Speaker 3: say men need to renunciate their masculinity, they renunciate the
- 42:18Speaker 3: things that they share with other men, right, Like, how
- 42:22Speaker 3: can you expect men to want to go towards you
- 42:26Speaker 3: if all you have for them is to renounce who
- 42:32Speaker 3: they are and that all of their problems come from
- 42:35Speaker 3: the fact that they think they are men. And if
- 42:37Speaker 3: they just occupied some some newter state of constant renunciation,
- 42:43Speaker 3: somehow they won't be suicidal, somehow their mental health will improve.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Like you guys are horrible people, Like the person who
- 42:52Speaker 3: wrote this is a horrible person.
- 42:55Speaker 2: The row is a horrible person.
- 42:58Speaker 3: The psychologist do you have men in masculinities. They're horrible people,
- 43:03Speaker 3: just freaking horrible. Now, apparently November, the people behind November
- 43:08Speaker 3: also horrible, and they're being abusive towards a group of
- 43:13Speaker 3: people and then shaming those people when they go away
- 43:15Speaker 3: from them, when they're like, we don't want to be
- 43:17Speaker 3: around you anymore, right, we don't know where to go,
- 43:20Speaker 3: but not with you.
- 43:23Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's read some more.
- 43:27Speaker 1: All right. I'm not shocked that such men exist, but
- 43:31Speaker 1: I am shocked by the support they are gaining. A
- 43:34Speaker 1: lot of people believe that men and women are equal
- 43:36Speaker 1: partners in a relationship. That's not really true. You want
- 43:40Speaker 1: to be a hero that saves the day, a person
- 43:42Speaker 1: that creates life for them better than any life they
- 43:45Speaker 1: could ever have. Here, they refer to women, and he
- 43:50Speaker 1: is under the illusion that men create a life for women,
- 43:53Speaker 1: which they believe women are not capable of creating themselves.
- 43:57Speaker 1: M or women would prefer men do all the heavy
- 44:01Speaker 1: lifting for them, which I think is what it is. Ultimately,
- 44:06Speaker 1: it's not that women can't do it, it's that they
- 44:08Speaker 1: would rather men did it. Oh, I did get a
- 44:11Speaker 1: super chat and a rumble rant, so I should read it.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Richard Pierre gave us five dollars and said, so YouTube
- 44:17Speaker 1: is inserting ads into the livestream. Since you're not getting
- 44:19Speaker 1: paid for the inserted ads, you need to adjust that setting.
- 44:24Speaker 1: Well I did. I don't know why it set it
- 44:25Speaker 1: up to monetize it, but it's fine now.
- 44:28Speaker 3: Yes, monetizes us without us getting anything.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Sorry, we can't do anything about that.
- 44:34Speaker 1: Yeah, well I switched it. It was on for some reason.
- 44:38Speaker 1: Normally turn it off. Zarex gives us two dollars and
- 44:41Speaker 1: says animals are treated better than men and infants. Thank you. Okay.
- 44:50Speaker 1: During filming, one of his paid supporters, this is what
- 44:52Speaker 1: I feel. So they don't know this for sure. They're
- 44:55Speaker 1: just saying as what they think said hi to him
- 44:57Speaker 1: in the documentary, which he most likely hired to showcase
- 45:01Speaker 1: the fan kingdom he had built through his notoriety. So
- 45:03Speaker 1: now this guy's saying, those those supporters, those guys that
- 45:07Speaker 1: we just talked about, those two guys, they weren't real.
- 45:09Speaker 1: They were paid to be in the movie to pretend
- 45:13Speaker 1: to be one of his hangers on. So that's what
- 45:16Speaker 1: this guy thinks about men who, by the way, this
- 45:20Speaker 1: is a man too. I wanted to address some bring
- 45:22Speaker 1: this up. It could be Now bear with me, this
- 45:26Speaker 1: is like just a theory. It could be that he
- 45:31Speaker 1: used to be maybe a paying customer. It didn't work
- 45:35Speaker 1: for him, and now he's mad, and so he's basically
- 45:38Speaker 1: trying to like, you know, discredit these people. It could
- 45:41Speaker 1: be because and I only say that because like the
- 45:43Speaker 1: majority of the guys that like buy Justin and Fresh
- 45:47Speaker 1: and Fit and Andrew Tates, like Hustlers University, these kind
- 45:52Speaker 1: of like schools of Game or whatever, the majority of
- 45:56Speaker 1: them are guys from Africa, India and the Middle eat.
- 46:01Speaker 1: So yeah, that's just what the numbers bear out.
- 46:04Speaker 3: Yeah, majority of the men who are in cells are
- 46:07Speaker 3: also not white. Despite being the evilest men on the planet,
- 46:12Speaker 3: white men are also apparently the most desirable no figure.
- 46:19Speaker 1: I okay, uhm, so I recommend. Oh yeah, this fan
- 46:26Speaker 1: whose life supposedly changed once he started taking justice subscription
- 46:29Speaker 1: based courses, was actually a hired local, poorly prepared for
- 46:34Speaker 1: his fan role because he kept fumbling throughout his psycophantic act.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Remember this is not evidence space, this is him. He said,
- 46:41Speaker 1: this is what I think. So now the article is
- 46:44Speaker 1: going to be a bunch of this is what I
- 46:46Speaker 1: think or this is what I feel. I recommend that
- 46:48Speaker 1: Justin deduct that fan's payment due to his poor acting.
- 46:52Speaker 1: The man kept calling Justin his idol, especially whenever he
- 46:55Speaker 1: forgot the lines he crammed the day before this boy
- 46:59Speaker 1: stayed out that he had learned from Justin life as
- 47:01Speaker 1: a man, you are born without value. We have to
- 47:04Speaker 1: build that value. So he's basically just trying to throw
- 47:08Speaker 1: shade at the two guys that would probably bring the
- 47:11Speaker 1: most humanity to the.
- 47:14Speaker 2: Yeah, doctuary, Can I just take this a little bit deeper.
- 47:17Speaker 3: It's really interesting that Theorea says that, not Waller says that,
- 47:23Speaker 3: because it's basically signing off on the reality constructed by
- 47:27Speaker 3: the Red Stockings in the nineteen sixties. Right, That's where
- 47:31Speaker 3: men got their values stripped, and that's where a lot
- 47:34Speaker 3: of this started to happen. I mean it's I mean,
- 47:39Speaker 3: some of it is difficult to tell because we don't
- 47:41Speaker 3: really have information on cohorts prior to the twenty the
- 47:47Speaker 3: beginning of the twenty first century, but definitely the cohorts
- 47:52Speaker 3: hitting the seventies are the ones where this is starting
- 47:55Speaker 3: to hit really bad, like the inflation on what women
- 47:58Speaker 3: expect from men, starts to really hit in the seventies,
- 48:03Speaker 3: and it just gets worse and worse, and the idea
- 48:07Speaker 3: that men have no inherent value, it's I mean, honestly,
- 48:13Speaker 3: I think that is that's basically Waller saying that a
- 48:17Speaker 3: reality that we exist in that has only existed really
- 48:21Speaker 3: for fifty years, is eternal and we can't change it.
- 48:25Speaker 3: It's actually sort of a defeatist attitude in a way,
- 48:29Speaker 3: because I'm pretty sure that if women, you know, ninety
- 48:35Speaker 3: years ago, weren't requiring a man to have an income
- 48:41Speaker 3: well above average in order to marry him, they obviously
- 48:44Speaker 3: thought men had a value other than their income, and
- 48:47Speaker 3: that has been stripped from men. And again I would
- 48:50Speaker 3: situate that, well, I mean, there's always the declaration of sentiments,
- 48:55Speaker 3: but I would situate that with the Red Stockings manifesto.
- 48:58Speaker 3: And while the Red Stockings Manifestos seems like just a
- 49:01Speaker 3: bunch of drunken wine aunts bitching about being bored, it
- 49:06Speaker 3: had incredible influence over the feminist uh feminist conjecture, which
- 49:14Speaker 3: then went on to have influence over the psychology of
- 49:17Speaker 3: men of masculinities field, and all of that combined had
- 49:21Speaker 3: huge influence over policy over family law, over NGO policy,
- 49:26Speaker 3: over international banking policy, like it's it's got this. It's
- 49:30Speaker 3: this gigantic megastructure that runs on undermining men's worth as
- 49:38Speaker 3: partners right right at the epicenter. HiT's right at the
- 49:41Speaker 3: epicenter of that. And I'm pretty sure that has to
- 49:44Speaker 3: have an effect on women's opinion about men's worth as partners.
- 49:48Speaker 3: And again, it's a real coincidence that this is when
- 49:51Speaker 3: women started to inflate the basic income they require for men,
- 49:56Speaker 3: under the influence of the heterosexualities, the site of female press,
- 50:00Speaker 3: and the idea that men don't bring anything but oppression
- 50:03Speaker 3: to a relationship, so they're a net negative. And then
- 50:06Speaker 3: suddenly women's expectations inflate. I think they're related, and that
- 50:10Speaker 3: means that this is something that can change. I mean,
- 50:13Speaker 3: it might be a very difficult thing to move, but
- 50:16Speaker 3: it's even like.
- 50:18Speaker 2: Continuing to let it get worse.
- 50:22Speaker 3: I mean, really, if it gets worse, even a man
- 50:25Speaker 3: like Waller in like twenty years won't be able to
- 50:28Speaker 3: pay for a woman. You be a multi millionaire, and
- 50:32Speaker 3: women won't be interested. Right, that's because it's getting worse.
- 50:37Speaker 3: Even Waller will be priced out, Even fresh and fit
- 50:41Speaker 3: will be priced out, Like even these guys will be
- 50:43Speaker 3: priced out because this is getting worse. So if we
- 50:46Speaker 3: don't address what's driving the worsening, what's driving the thing
- 50:50Speaker 3: that's like making this worse, there will be a point
- 50:54Speaker 3: where every man is priced out unless there are I
- 50:57Speaker 3: guess musk, and Musk doesn't seem to want a woman.
- 51:00Speaker 3: He just wants to lay eggs with them, right, So
- 51:04Speaker 3: it's it's it's.
- 51:05Speaker 2: Just a.
- 51:07Speaker 3: You gotta stop this defeatist statitude of oh, this is
- 51:11Speaker 3: just the way things are, because that's going to just
- 51:14Speaker 3: make it so the human race goes extinct because people
- 51:18Speaker 3: can't pair bond because you're not addressing what's poisoning it.
- 51:22Speaker 3: You're just saying, oh, well, this level of poisoning is
- 51:25Speaker 3: is what it's always been, by my course. Okay, anyway,
- 51:31Speaker 3: that's a bit of an aside. How much further do
- 51:35Speaker 3: we have in this article?
- 51:39Speaker 1: Quite a bit. Yeah, we'll just get through one more
- 51:43Speaker 1: section and then we'll start. Okay, So this boy stated,
- 51:48Speaker 1: uh no, I never read that part. Let's see, life
- 51:55Speaker 1: is a man. You're born with that value. We have
- 51:56Speaker 1: to build that value, which, according to them, means that
- 51:58Speaker 1: nothing is given to men at birth, they have to
- 52:00Speaker 1: work harder. On the other hand, upon asking about women,
- 52:03Speaker 1: justin reply that I think they are born with value
- 52:06Speaker 1: through beauty. Now, in patriarchal world, it is a popular
- 52:09Speaker 1: belief that women's most powerful tool is their beauty. If
- 52:12Speaker 1: a woman gets a job, it's because she might have
- 52:14Speaker 1: seduced her manager. If she is a successful model, it
- 52:17Speaker 1: is because she can show her body. No, that's a misrepresentation.
- 52:23Speaker 1: Women's attractiveness is an advantage. They don't have to seduce
- 52:27Speaker 1: anybody or even flirt. Just being attractive is good for
- 52:31Speaker 1: your career, for your life, and it's good for men too.
- 52:34Speaker 1: But I think women benefit more. Like you can have
- 52:39Speaker 1: the shittiest opinions, but if you look good enough, you
- 52:42Speaker 1: can make a YouTube channel and hit a billion subs
- 52:44Speaker 1: if you're a woman.
- 52:46Speaker 3: It's an interesting kind of intersection. I don't think actually
- 52:49Speaker 3: women's attractiveness of judging from the statistics I've seen, attractive
- 52:53Speaker 3: men actually get more of a benefit in terms of income.
- 52:56Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Women's attractiveness fit doesn't come through
- 53:01Speaker 2: their income.
- 53:02Speaker 3: It comes through the men's income that they marry.
- 53:07Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, Yeah, but my uh, my point
- 53:11Speaker 1: is that he's saying, yeah, like sav Cannon for sure.
- 53:17Speaker 2: Okay.
- 53:18Speaker 1: He says that, yeah, okay, I'll just finish this.
- 53:22Speaker 2: I just unfortunately finish it. I just want to I
- 53:24Speaker 2: just want to say something.
- 53:26Speaker 3: There are got there are people who are watching, who
- 53:28Speaker 3: are just watching for the article.
- 53:29Speaker 2: So let's try to just finish the whole thing.
- 53:30Speaker 3: Then we'll start a level, even if we can only
- 53:33Speaker 3: get one level in.
- 53:34Speaker 1: All right, So Justin replied that I think they're born
- 53:39Speaker 1: with value through beauty. Now, in a patriarchal world, it
- 53:41Speaker 1: is a popular belief that women's most powerful tool is
- 53:44Speaker 1: their beauty. Right So though unfortunately many women propagate this
- 53:48Speaker 1: thinking too, believing that they need to be beautiful or
- 53:51Speaker 1: that beauty is their asset, but in reality it demeans
- 53:54Speaker 1: and destroys the lives of many other women who do
- 53:56Speaker 1: not fit conventional standards of beauty. Rather than feeling confident
- 54:00Speaker 1: about their achievement, they start judging themselves based on men's reactions.
- 54:05Speaker 1: What is the discrimination against men? These men think they
- 54:11Speaker 1: should be credited more for maintaining a balance in a
- 54:14Speaker 1: world they believe some became unbalanced after the revolution called feminism.
- 54:20Speaker 1: Are by whom credited by women, I guess, I mean,
- 54:27Speaker 1: what else could it be?
- 54:28Speaker 3: Well, I mean, honestly, they're being credited by women, they
- 54:31Speaker 3: have women around them, yes, which I doubt this medium
- 54:36Speaker 3: article writer does.
- 54:37Speaker 2: But continue Brian.
- 54:40Speaker 1: All right, And they have a media a medicine for it,
- 54:44Speaker 1: which is called the red Pill, which they believe to
- 54:46Speaker 1: be a necessary antidote for counter to counterbalance feminism. Now
- 54:51Speaker 1: this red pill is nothing but their subscriptions based courses
- 54:55Speaker 1: access to porn sites and to obscene videos they shoot
- 54:58Speaker 1: with only fans creators who they claim to dislike. Men
- 55:03Speaker 1: built an invented society. He's quoting more Justin Waller comments, Yeah,
- 55:08Speaker 1: he has to like cram all this stuff together to
- 55:10Speaker 1: make it work.
- 55:12Speaker 3: But I don't actually think that Tiki Talkie was doing
- 55:15Speaker 3: obscene videos with.
- 55:16Speaker 1: That well he shared he shared a video with throw.
- 55:24Speaker 1: We don't get to see it. We have to just
- 55:26Speaker 1: take what their their reaction for what it's worth. And
- 55:30Speaker 1: apparently he recorded himself getting a some head from an
- 55:35Speaker 1: OnlyFans girl and he was showing it off, so that,
- 55:39Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's true. I don't know, but I
- 55:43Speaker 1: mean I think this is what Yeah, go ahead, I mean, the.
- 55:48Speaker 3: Thing is that hip hop and rap stars have always existed,
- 55:51Speaker 3: and then there's been you know, the Kardashians. Like, isn't
- 55:55Speaker 3: this kind of sleazy kind of behavior almost a constant?
- 56:00Speaker 1: It's like, let's savely normal, but when women do it alson,
- 56:04Speaker 1: it's empowerment. So don't don't bring Kim Kardashian into this.
- 56:07Speaker 1: Obviously she's a feminist icon. Uh So, yeah, there you go.
- 56:13Speaker 2: Okay, just let's let's aget this.
- 56:15Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so let me see maintain a balance. Right, so,
- 56:26Speaker 1: mel quoting Waller again, men have built, men built an
- 56:30Speaker 1: invented society. Can you name anything that women have invented
- 56:34Speaker 1: and built? In our plane sight? From his rooftop, he
- 56:38Speaker 1: was essentially pointing out that men are the ones doing
- 56:41Speaker 1: the labor that builds the architects, the structures around his apartment.
- 56:46Speaker 1: Someone please introduce this man to Zaha Hadid, one of
- 56:50Speaker 1: the most famous architects ever born. And if he still
- 56:53Speaker 1: doesn't feel a shame, tell him that his own architect
- 56:57Speaker 1: is a woman's body. His entire existence is based on.
- 57:00Speaker 1: In Wow, this guy is he's a real feminist male feminist.
- 57:04Speaker 3: Yeah, that means he's probably never gonna get married.
- 57:06Speaker 1: Apparently, a woman is well known or something. But I
- 57:11Speaker 1: never heard of this article.
- 57:12Speaker 3: So yeah, and write another I but so you can
- 57:16Speaker 3: name one female architect, you know, the woman who was
- 57:20Speaker 3: married to the science fiction writer Butcher. Not Butcher, oh god,
- 57:27Speaker 3: the science fiction writers like really famous from the twenties.
- 57:31Speaker 3: And uh, he was the one that the guy on
- 57:34Speaker 3: the kid On Simpson said that he would put instead
- 57:37Speaker 3: of Bradbury or no asthmov. Anyway, Sorry, this is an aside,
- 57:42Speaker 3: but there have been female architects for a very long time.
- 57:46Speaker 2: That doesn't actually.
- 57:49Speaker 3: Change Waller's point, which is that women, men and in
- 57:55Speaker 3: particular men are doing the awful jobs to keep society running.
- 58:01Speaker 2: And that is true. That is one true.
- 58:05Speaker 3: And the fact that the alignemen can't get a wife,
- 58:11Speaker 3: but Waller can apparently get an entire harem is a
- 58:16Speaker 3: problem for our society because we need alignment, we do
- 58:20Speaker 3: not need Waller. And I know that maybe that's not
- 58:24Speaker 3: what Waller was getting at, but unfortunately I think that
- 58:28Speaker 3: that is the big takeaway from that. All right, let's
- 58:33Speaker 3: let's keep going, all.
- 58:35Speaker 1: Right, empowering of empowerment of men is seen as a threat.
- 58:40Speaker 1: This is justin Waller's quote again, he also says men
- 58:44Speaker 1: are not supposed to be happy, and now the writer continues,
- 58:48Speaker 1: I advocate for men's mental health, but my advocacy is
- 58:51Speaker 1: always based on the problems that men face due to
- 58:55Speaker 1: the patriarchy that they or their ancestors created, which has
- 58:59Speaker 1: benefit them for a long time and is still benefiting
- 59:02Speaker 1: them in one way or another. So even if you're suffering,
- 59:06Speaker 1: it's your fault.
- 59:08Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, he's like, I care about men suffering
- 59:11Speaker 3: when I can use it as a point to make
- 59:13Speaker 3: them suffer more.
- 59:15Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Zerings gave us five dollars super chat and says,
- 59:21Speaker 1: where can we find women who judge themselves based on
- 59:24Speaker 1: our reactions? They would be the best to learn about
- 59:27Speaker 1: building their character becoming beautiful. All right, thank you for that.
- 59:34Speaker 3: So you're saying that a woman's character makes her beautiful
- 59:36Speaker 3: because I think that this is or are you saying that?
- 59:40Speaker 3: I mean, because the thing is that if you're you
- 59:43Speaker 3: know what, I don't know what you're saying.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Continue Brian, objectively speaking, when I discuss men's pressure, it
- 59:49Speaker 1: mainly comes from men themselves. Though I am a feminist,
- 59:52Speaker 1: no shit, yeah.
- 59:55Speaker 3: What what what?
- 59:57Speaker 2: But it's what it comes from men?
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: Alf Yes, because men are so concerned about what other
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: men want from them sexually to be in a relationship
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: with them. Are you freaking.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: Okay? And this will fall on deaf ears.
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: The main issue that I see that men have, okay,
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: is that they are priced out of the dating and
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: relationship marketplace because feminism hasn't destroyed their inherent value as
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: husbands and fathers. So women are constantly in a race
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: to increase the minimum amount that a man has to
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: contribute in order for him to be considered eligible as
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: a husband and father because he has no value in
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: and of himself. And maybe that value I mean, can
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: we entertain my hypothesis that feminism directly attacking that value
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: is why that value has been directly attacked and reduced?
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: Okay?
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: Right, So we have the situation where a bunch of
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: men are disenfranchised from marriage. And it's not just the
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: lowest like quintile of men, it's all the.
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: Way up into the fourth right, Okay.
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: So we have this situation and they're upset about it,
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: and can we entertain the possibility that we.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: Can't blame men for this.
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: We can't blame men for the fact that men can't
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: get married like maybe we could just direct our ire
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: somewhere other than men for once in our history of
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: this nonsense, Like just once, like could we just it's bald,
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: I know, it's bold. Maybe that what the pressure that's
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: being placed on men to get married in order that
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: they can become marriageable is.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Not being placed by other men.
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: Right, So what a man says, I can't get a date,
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: I can't get a girlfriend, I can't get a wife.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Maybe the pressure.
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: That's causing this problem isn't coming from other men.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's a wild concept.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just I know.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: They but this is like they that this, but like
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: this is why they always do this because they have to,
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: like if they if they acknowledge that it's the pressure
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: of women's it's men reacting to what they think women want.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. Uh. And women are not
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: saying that's not what they want, you know, they are
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: speaking loudly that that is what they want, and men
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: are trying to meet those that demand. But they can't
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: acknowledge that, so they have to blame men. They have to.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: They can't do it another way, all right, So objectively
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: object and oh yeah, you can tell he's lying because
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: he started the sentence with objectively speaking, which you know
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: tells you that he hasn't been speaking objectively up until
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: this point. I guess when I discuss men's pressure, it
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: mainly comes from men themselves. Though I am a feminist,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: at the same time, I strongly believe that just hating
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: all men won't make someone feminists. The fight is against
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: the structure of patriarchy, not a retaliation against men to
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: demean a whole larger community.
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: I just I just can find the structure of patriarchy
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: and a man who has suicidal ideation, Like if you
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: can find patriarchy, if you can find blaming men in
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: a man who is pondering unaliving himself, where can you
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: not find it? Like what point do you stop saying
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: that that's patriarchy? You see what I'm saying, Brian, Like
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: if you can blame men at the point where they're
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: about to jump off a bridge, is there any point
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: that you can't blame men? And if you can blame
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: men in every single conceivable circumstance, even at the moment
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: that they're about to jump off a bridge, like this
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: guy's gonna walk past a dude on a bridge and
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: he'd be like, you know, you know you're there because
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: of patriarchy, which is your fault, and then just keep walking. Right,
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: How does it even matter if you say you don't
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: hate men at that point, because there's no point in
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: your life where you can ever spare a man a
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: single compassionate thought. I mean, if you're at that point
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: where this dude's walking along a bridge and he sees
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: a guy he's about to jump, and he basically says
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: to the guy, yeah, repent of your male privilege. That'll
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: fix you, and then fox off, like this is the
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: worst kind of trolley bullying behavior towards other men, dismissal
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: of every possible ounce of humanity of other men or
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: concern or care for other men. Does it matter if
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: he doesn't hate men at this point? Like, isn't isn't
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: that sort of like a you know, splitting hairs all
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: right in the in the endeavors of actually finishing this,
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: please continue.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: Okay, good luck? All right. The fight is against the
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: structure of patriarchy, not a retaliation against men to demean
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: a whole larger community. Everyone needs empowerment, but these men
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: see marginalized groups as empowerment, as a threat to their pedestals.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: In many ways, they contribute to the very pressures they
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: claim to fight. Oh now we've reversed it, and we're
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: blaming them for that now. The most shocking part for
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: me was his wife's interview, where she said, quote, they
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: have lanes. My lane is cooking diapers, and his lane
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: is providing that money stuff. We don't cross each other's lanes.
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: Most women are going to like the idea that their
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: men are wanted by other women. The first reason behind
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: this mindset might be that men create patriarchy and some
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: women end up guarding it because they are conditioned or
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: brainwashed to that extent, and perhaps she is one of
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: those women. Another reason could be that she knows this
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: propaganda is the only way she can feed her children,
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: so she chooses to demean herself in front of the world.
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: She said her priority is his honesty about infidelity, so
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: he she ignores his cheating because, according to her, men
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: are inherently not meant to be monogamous. Therefore, if a
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: man is at least truthful, he is better than everyone else.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: So that was his kit on Justine.
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: But that's their decision, that's how they arrange their life
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: like it's it's interesting, it's I mean, it's their business, right,
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: they're half polyandrous or whatever, half or polygitish.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's their business.
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: That's their business. Is that not what the whole sexual
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: revolution was about?
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: They do them. And but the thing is that he's
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: he's I don't because because.
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: He refuses to see the influence of women's expectations and choices.
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: He refuses to see that this woman has chosen this man, right,
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: he has. She has chosen this man based on whatever
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: features that she wants from men, and that is apparently money,
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: and that is fine. Mm hmmm, right, that's uh, that
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: that is her choice. But the thing is that he's
- 1:07:16Speaker 3: completely erasing that woman's choice. But he's erasing her choice
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: to choose the man that she wants in order to
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: uphold his particular view of what women should be. And
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: then he turns around and says, this man, who has
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: also has a particular view of what women should be,
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: is bad because he has a particular view of what
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: women should be.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: Okay, then.
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's uh that's just a very strange
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: funhouse mirror argument.
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: You've got there.
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: Okay, how much more do we have Uh, I.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: Think we're about halfway through. So a famous cat without it? Yeah, well,
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: a famous cat without a tail, Amuru Fudi that's fresh
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: from fresh and fit or fit I'm not sure which.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: You are literally born with a vagina and titties and
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: that's and so that's why you are born with value.
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: This was a scurrilous attempt to bolster his fragile male
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: ego by mocking someone at a conference possibly organized by
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: people cruel enough to invite him. So again, he's got
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: to make a lot of assumptions here. And look, despite
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: the language being a bit crass, he's not wrong. Unfortunately,
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: women do have Women do have value by default, and
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: men do not. They have to earn it. I mean,
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: is this guy gonna write an article about how Chris
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: Rock said the exact same thing? No? Is he? No?
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: Of course not, because Chris Rock is somebody we're supposed
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: to like, you know. And also why does he say
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: why does he say these guys don't care about marginalized people? Well,
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: he's talking about like people of different races. Isn't this
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: guy Amoru Fudi like a Sudanese man? Is Is he white?
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: Now?
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: Does he like count as white because he said this.
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: You know that the are the white men.
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: Well, if they're if they are men, then it's a
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: very short trip. If there're any any man of any
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: race is basically like, you know, a hair's breadth away
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: from being a white guy.
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: White men of the race or or respective minority, and
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: in which pace they get completely stripped of all their
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: minority points and they get the bootstrapping rhetoric.
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, all right anyway, so yeah, it's not
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: a fragile metal ego thing. You're just trying to for
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: some reason like take them down the peg. Someone please
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: tell these clusterfuck guys who actually put that value on
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: those cities and vaginas a woman doesn't walk around with
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: a vagina in her hand for sale. It's your gaze,
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: your lust, your constant objectification which you have no control over,
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: which makes it a commodity. And when some women start
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: exploiting your weakness, you begin whining about all this. So
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: now it's something it's men's fault that women have sexual power.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: Okay, let me let me just point something out. We're
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: we're in a very crass register right now, but women
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: also have value as relationship partners. We're talking about oh
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: vagina and tits and selling it well. But women also
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: don't need to earn value to be wives, right to
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: be to be taken, to be a companion, for a
- 1:10:43Speaker 3: for a husband. For men, okay, So, and that means
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: like a social companionship presumably of some sort emotional companionship.
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: Men value women as companions, they value them as you know,
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: like have emotions or even promoting positive emotions, and women
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: they value women as people. Okay, see what I'm saying, Bright,
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: We're re atling the tits in the vagina and I'm like, well,
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: but men also marry women, right They're they're like, I'm
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: going to make a commitment to being your companion for
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: the rest of my life. And for men that often
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: is very exclusive, Like they're they're making a very exclusive
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: emotional commitment to a woman when they marry her. Because
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: it's men who tend to, you know, lose touch with
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: their friendship group, which is not good. Ben shouldn't do that,
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: but they tend to do that. And it's actually something
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: that's predictable from vast oppressed and vacippress and is very
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: target specific in its affection. So men are going to
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: be like exclusively, like they choose a woman, that woman
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: becomes their exclusive companion. What does this guy think that means?
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: It means he vowed that man values her emotions, usually
- 1:11:58Speaker 3: values some aspect of her opinion and her activities beyond
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: the tits and vagina. Right, So men value women as wives,
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: as potential wives, and so it's much more than just
- 1:12:11Speaker 3: sexual objects here, okay, And they minimize and degrade the
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: value that men place on women by putting it in
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: this crass register and also saying that somehow it's because
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: when men value women's opinions and their emotions, somehow that's
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: female labor that men owe even more to women. Well, okay,
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: so my ultimate point is that men value women as
- 1:12:36Speaker 3: companions too, obviously because they want to marry them. If
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: if this value that men give women by virtue of
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: women just existing is a problem, you know, there's another
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: way we could go, like the asymmetry here, we could
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: value men, you know, ladies, Like if you're like, oh,
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: I all the value that men put in women as companions,
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: it's just so despicable. I mean that the value they're
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: responsible for, the value that we know it's just object. Well,
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: why don't you value men? Why don't you value men
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: as a companion?
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: Huh?
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: Like, why don't you have value men sexually, emotionally, socially
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: for other things other than money. You could do that, ladies,
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: And then then then both sexes are valuing each other
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: and there's no value asymmetry that you can complain about
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: and blame on men. Such a simple solution, yet nobody
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: thinks of it.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: Okay, keep going.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: All right? So uh let's see. Uh Oh, I don't
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: think women should vote. This is quoting Myron h I
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: don't think women should vote, nor do I think women
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: should be in law or enforcement agencies. It's monogamous on
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: her end and open on my end. She packs my
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: fucking condoms when I travel. I dictate when I put
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: my dick into you, bitch, and then you dictate when
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: the sandwich has come to my dictation, Come by my dictation.
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: So these are all things that he has said. This
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: is the thinking of a macho man who claimed to
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: love women, but not as human beings rather than as objects.
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: What I mean, Yeah, it's it's transactional. But you know,
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: when he becomes somebody that she no longer wants to
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: transact with she leaves.
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: There you go, that's the end of it.
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't like, honestly, this isn't behavior that's
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: going to elicit loyalty. But that's them's the rules that
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: they're living by.
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: So continue, Brian.
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: And again you said that a lot of this is
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: probably sales pitch stuff.
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, like yeah, I mean, if he's in
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: front of the cameras, he's got essentially there's, like I said,
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: they're selling an image. They've already been doing it. Even
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: if they don't actually believe the shit that they have said,
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: they have to say it now maybe they do. I
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: don't know. I have my doubts though. I think that
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: it's mostly like played up. It's like wwe shit for
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: you know, for sales. And I think that when people
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: like this guy react to them, like take them literally
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: and they use it to like debunk them and tear
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: them down, they're basically just participating in shit flinging for
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: no reason. Like I don't think that it's productive at all.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: But it's okay. It's for his blog. He'll get some likes,
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: he'll get a bunch of women saying, oh, you're one
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: of the good ones, that's what he's trying to do.
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: So anyway, marriage No, No, they won't marry him.
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: This is the problem, Like this Waller is is, Well,
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: he's in some kind of relationship, so obviously his behavior
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: does not preclude that, and it probably doesn't preclude that
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: because he makes a lot of money and he's reacting
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: to a world in which women are incredibly mercenary. Right,
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: See when you ignore that fact, like I honestly this
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: do you think that I have never heard this kind
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: of an exchange being considered something like a traditional Christian relationship, right? No,
- 1:16:16Speaker 3: like him stepping out on her, No, him acting in
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: this kind of disrespectful manner. No, right, but this is
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: not this is and this is what's interesting is that
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: they're looking at this which is crass and disrespectful. But
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: it's on both parties, right, because you know, with Christian
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: relationships it's for better or for worse, for poorer and
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: for health you have sickness and health, and women don't
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: live up to that anymore. They walk out when the
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: money dries up. She'll walk out when the money dries up.
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: So why should he have respect for her?
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: Why should he?
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: Why should he treat her like the mother of his
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: child and his wife and not his baby mama. This
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: is the This is the These are the rules that
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: are set by the modern dating landscape, which are themselves
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: set by the expectations of women. But none of this
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: is traditional. I mean, and I don't even mean like traditional,
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: like fifties traditional. None of this is traditional. None of
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: this is a traditional Christian relationship. And so this isn't patriarchy, guys.
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: This isn't the thing that the Red Stockings were arguing about.
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: This is some new thing that is a result of
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: feminism poisoning the relationship between men and women.
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: She gets him his sandwiches, she sucks his dick, she
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: packs his his condoms, and when he doesn't have the
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: money to pay for her with the kids, that's the deal, yep.
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's crass, it's been debased, but it's not.
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: He didn't.
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: Waller didn't debase and make this whole situation crass. The
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: Red Stockings did. The Declaration of Sentiments did. That's the
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: moment where everything started to descend into hell. Waller's just
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: living in it and apparently thinks that that's the only
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: world that exists, even though you can actually read about
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: another world the time before the witch is ruled.
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep.
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: Going, all right. According to him, he is not misogynistic
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: because he understands women. Since he understands women, he believes
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: he knows better than they do what is best for them,
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: which exactly which is exactly the time when they want
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: his dick in. He is one of the most famous
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: so called revolutionaries for bringing back old ideas that men
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: of superior and should have wives.
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: What stop fucking this man, ladies, if you don't find
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: him attractive.
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: But they do, and they will.
- 1:19:12Speaker 3: They do, and they will.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: But then he's already blamed. He already said that when
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: they do that, just that's just them trying to survive
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: under patriarchy. So they don't really want to, but they're
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: going to anyway because they have to, like grin and
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: bear it. That's what he would say anyways.
- 1:19:29Speaker 3: Is this is this what liberal men tell themselves when
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: other men get married and they don't.
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: I don't know, Alison, I'm not one of those.
- 1:19:38Speaker 3: It's just this is this is just patriarch they're just
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: oh good.
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: Lord mm hmm. Ok right.
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: Uh So he does this through a podcast where he
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: invites some OnlyFans, girls and local creators ask them questions
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: they are either paid not to answer or paid to
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: act dumb, and then humiliates them live on his show.
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: This is all done to prove I women need men
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: to tell them what to do. Millions of fans watch
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: and unfortunately relish it. Again, he's making a bunch of
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: assertions with no evidence. He's saying that he's paying all
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: these people off. You can say you don't like the guy,
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: but you'd have to demonstrate that there's like a scam
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: going on. So a large portion of their yeah, go ahead.
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: It's not a matter of disliking him. It's just a
- 1:20:24Speaker 3: matter of seeing what he's caught in, you know, and
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: seeing the matrix.
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: Perhaps sure.
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: And the thing is that it again, this is men
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: reacting to women, making the relationship between men and women
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: into something horrible and debased, Like you got you, ladies,
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: you decided to buy into the whole heterosexuality is the
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: site of female oppression. You cannot make the relationship between
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: men and women were based. I don't want based debased,
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: not based the opposite of based debased than that. So
- 1:21:11Speaker 3: your first the first punch thrown was thrown by women.
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: It was thrown by feminism.
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: And waller is just what remains when men decide to
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: match your energy, ladies.
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: Ladies. Mm hmm, me say that.
- 1:21:27Speaker 3: Again without the fumble. Waller is what remains when men
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: decide to match your energy, ladies.
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: I still fumbled it.
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay, we think we get it. A large
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: portion of their audience appears to be young men and
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: teenage boys. They claim that through their unruly campaigns, they
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: are making men men again by promoting real recaltui sense,
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: because Jews are trying to make men into something else
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: to control the world through the introduction of feminism and homosexuality. Again,
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: he's conflating a bunch of stuff, like I think hs
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: Tiki Taki said something about Jews, but no one else did.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: So you did, you know, at least in the documentary.
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what they've done in their
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: own time or whatever. And that's irrelevant. Again, it's irrelevant.
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: He said his wife understands that in the future he
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: will have multiple wives, though her sullen reaction in the
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: documentary to his adversive statement so told a different story.
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: So again we have to I want to point out
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: this is him talking about Myron Gains a fresh and
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: fit and Myron Gains after the documentary was released, released
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: a whole bunch of footage that he recorded on his
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: end to show that Louis Theureaux was like deceptively editing
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: interactions between himself and his girlfriend and well between himself
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: and Myron Gains and Myron Gaines's girlfriend. Yeah, the'su's girlfriend
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: or fiance or something. I don't know. So I can't
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: take any of this seriously at all because we already
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: know that Luis thureau lies in the documentary. So why
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: are these men showing their women validation for their perversions
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: in the media. Maybe to make other girls and men
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: who are not their supporters believe that women also want this.
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: Okay, well they're free to stop dating these men at
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: any time.
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: Yeah, But the.
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: Truth is that, based on again based on my general
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: social survey, like my analysis, it is income that women
- 1:23:42Speaker 3: are seeking.
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: Like, yeah, probably also the other stuff six pat six foot,
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: et cetera. But in particular it is when it is
- 1:23:54Speaker 3: income that determines whether or not a man gets married.
- 1:23:57Speaker 3: These guys have a lot of income, so everything else
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: doesn't matter. And again, if you want to supposedly become
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: a man who is a good man according to.
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: Liberals, you're gonna have to pay a tax.
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: When it comes to your income, you're gonna have to
- 1:24:19Speaker 3: earn two point three times more than a conservative man
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: or a moderate. Even so, he'll what these women say
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: they want and what they want, or what women say
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: they want, or let me put it another way, what
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: liberals and feminists say women want and what women actually
- 1:24:39Speaker 3: want are two very different things. Okay, let's try let's
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: try bright.
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: More reading more. Okay, there a lot female delusion calculator.
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: This guy has a female delusion calculator as proof of
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: their ramshackle theory of males, where they tell girls about
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: how delusional they are about their partners expectations or male
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: partners expectations. No one knows how this works, but they
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: ask for women's expectations, fill in some numbers from heighth ethnicity,
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: et cetera, and then show you how many men are
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: available in this category and tell the women to shut
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: the hell up or lower their expectations.
- 1:25:20Speaker 2: Yeah that's pretty Yeah, that's true.
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: Though, like that, they're literally just saying, what do you
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: want in a man. The women list every thing off,
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: and then you put it through the calculator determine how
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: many men there are on earth that meet those qualifications
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: and what percentage of the male population that is. Yeah,
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: I mean you could like narrow it down to less
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: than one percent just based on height alone, because you know,
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: a very small percentage of men are over six feet tall,
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: for example.
- 1:25:48Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and once you're like six feet tall,
- 1:25:51Speaker 3: and in the talk quintile of income, you're like five
- 1:25:54Speaker 3: percent of men.
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: My dudes, myddebts.
- 1:25:57Speaker 3: And this is the Key's like pretending like this is mysterious.
- 1:26:01Speaker 3: It's not mysterious.
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: All you need is.
- 1:26:03Speaker 3: Like a Python script in the general like statistics of
- 1:26:08Speaker 3: how tall men are, you know, how fit they are,
- 1:26:12Speaker 3: how much money they make in their education, and their age,
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: And based on those factors, you can give women a
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: rough estent of how many men exist that they want.
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: It's it's not rocket science. I could probably do it,
- 1:26:27Speaker 3: all right, Continue to read Yeah.
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: A quack Yeah, so next subheading, I guess a quack
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: neuroscientist who explains why women should not sleep with other men.
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: They have probably paid some random guy who claimed to
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: be a neuroscientist on an Instagram reel, and he said
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: he would explain why there is a problem with women
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: if they happen to sleep with other men. Warning you
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: will be befuddled after reading this fallacy quote. Study shows
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: that women absorb and retain the DNA of every man
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: they have been with via SPA.
- 1:27:00Speaker 3: Yeah, this is ridiculous, Yes, junk science right.
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: This foreign DNA has been found in the brain, organs,
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: and reproductive systems. Nobody ever talks about the consequences. Ever,
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: wonder why some kids resemble on X more than their fathers.
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: This is usually why the more men of women has
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: been with, the higher the risk of negative mutations in
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: our future children. This is the viral Instagram reel where
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: microchimerism has been wrongly used by those who misuse the
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: right to free speech. O. Misusing the right to free
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: speech fuck off, which these people are citing as a
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: source of credibility to prove why one side of monogamy
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: is justifiable. This insane, inane, sorry, inane claim is scientifically
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: false and widely debunked. Now you will say, so what
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: No one is that dumb to trust this? Seriously, have
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: you forgotten history? Do I need to remind you about
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: World War II. Oh no, the World War Two. We're
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: invoking it again, the war to end all wars? What
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah, go ahead.
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: I drifted off a bit, and when I returned, we
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: were on World War two.
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worlds w Well, we're gonna get to it.
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: I think, what do you think? A teenage boy, his
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: mind still like wax, learns from this. He spends most
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: of his time on his phone watching their vlogs, their
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: flashy lives, women dancing around them while they preach traditional
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: values and remain vindictive towards subaltern groups. Will he ever
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: see the other side, the one we try to write
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: about in books or on medium, especially in the age
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: of social media. For many kids, these men are their idols.
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: So he's saying it doesn't matter. They'll believe it because
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: they're dumb and I'm not and I'm smart, but nobody's
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: reading my blog. It's so sad, those poor kids. I
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: don't know what World War two has to do with it.
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: By the way, he didn't really come you know, how
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: to bring it back to that.
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like you're gonna drop World War two
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: and then don't tie it to anything that's a little
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: don't don't invoke World War two unless you just.
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: Say world War two. Get it? Guys, reminds me of
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: Germany in the early twentieth century. Guys, you guys know
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: what I'm getting at, right? You know what I'm getting at? Right?
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: You know what I'm getting at? Right? These are.
- 1:29:12Speaker 3: Yeah, micromeris microchimerism.
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: But what does this change about anything?
- 1:29:18Speaker 3: It's not like these guys who believe in micro chyrinism
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: chyrinism are going to like it's not going to change there.
- 1:29:28Speaker 3: They're still not going to have partners, right, because you know,
- 1:29:34Speaker 3: the the level of income women expect is insane. Yeah, so, like,
- 1:29:42Speaker 3: so what if they believe that the women aren't that
- 1:29:44Speaker 3: aren't choosing them are full of genetic parasites because they've
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: had sex with lots of men? What is you know
- 1:29:55Speaker 3: that's okay? And also this is just ridiculous junk science.
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: These are urban ledg like we had them in the
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: eighties and the nineties. They weren't memes, but they were
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: commonly misunderstood things.
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: Right, So this is what it's wrong. The end.
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: Let's move on, Like, what kind of point is he?
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: Ultimate point? Is he making from this and is it justified?
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: Why are we here? What are you doing? How did
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: how did World War two come up? In conversations?
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: I think he was just trying to scare people. Okay,
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: all right, unheal trauma they are reflecting onto the world.
- 1:30:35Speaker 3: The main reason behind trauma because of patriarchy?
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: Ye, yes, of course it is because they're not dealing
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: with it right. The main reason behind this misogyny, as
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: many say, could be that their moms hugged them less,
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: or that their fathers were indignant, as one could conclude
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: from the reminiscences of their childhood shared by them through obscured.
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: Motivational stories or indifferent.
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: Ugnant What yeah he said indignant? Yeah?
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: Oh, this is so he's proposing a a what is
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: it that word that is I cannot freaking get out
- 1:31:16Speaker 3: of my head? A rash, A epidemic of indignant fathers.
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: Does this epidemic father as is?
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: Abdignant, meaningful particular pant letters to the editor. All these
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: indignant fathers, we're causing jerichal trauma.
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: Are we close to the end?
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. I'm trying to get there. The
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: main reason behind this misogyny, as many say, could be
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: that their mom's hugged them less, or that their fathers
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: were indignant, as one could conclude from the reminiscences reminiscences
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: of their childhood shared by them through obscured motivational stories.
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: But no, it is an easy way to avoid accountability
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: driven by insecurity because they know they can't compete in
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: a market. When women come into the picture, they feel
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: more dwarfed, so they reflect their self vindictiveness by resenting women.
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: It might sound ludicrous to you all, but it's an
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: alarming situation.
- 1:32:23Speaker 2: And what you're doing is which is resenting the men.
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: How are these How are these guys? How are the
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: guys you're attacking insecure and avoiding accountability and feeling dwarfed
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: when they're literally with women. Ye're like they're surrounded by women,
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: and those women don't seem to like they're not like,
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: you know, trying to get away. They're not trying to escape,
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: they're not asking Louis Thorreaux behind the scenes, could you
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: please call the police? You know, like they're they're they're
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: staying with these guys. You can level all kinds of
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: criticism at them, and I've I could do it too,
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: But them not actually, like you know, being attractive to
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: women is not one of those things. So but here's
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: the problem. You who wrote this article cannot face that reality.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: You cannot understand that there are women who would choose this.
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: And it's not because of patriarchy, and it's not because
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: they're under the heel of these men, and it's not
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: because they're living in fear. It's none of those things.
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: It is literally because these guys have something they want
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: and they're saying because they're gonna get it, money, attention,
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: sexual variety, whatever it is, it doesn't matter. They're getting it. Status, yep,
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: the ability to make other women jealous. I mean, the
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: list goes on. So this guy won't reckon with that
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: at all under any circumstances. And that's it, Like, really,
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: all you gotta do. This article is almost over. But
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: if you want to see, like if how to debunk
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: somebody who's trying to come after you know, menisphere, men's
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: rights activists, whatever, look at how their criticisms are leveled,
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: and then look for that blind spot of can they
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: see women choose things? These guys actually, they can be
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: more dehumanizing to women than anybody else because they basically say,
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: women don't make choices, Women don't have opinions, women don't
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: make you know, even they don't make decisions unless they're
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: good decisions, Like, they can't make bad decisions or neutral ones.
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: They can't. And of course whether or not it's a
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: good decision is completely dependent on the person making the
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: judgment about their decision, so it's not even really their decision,
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: it's their opinion on the women's decision.
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: So yeah, well, I mean really, like, let's look at
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: Waller's girlfriend or whatever it is, baby mama. Okay, do
- 1:34:55Speaker 3: you think she's gonna be with him if he was
- 1:34:58Speaker 3: a plumber?
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: No, right, she's not. But here's the thing.
- 1:35:05Speaker 3: She's with him because he has money and again makes
- 1:35:09Speaker 3: probably makes other women jealous, et cetera, all.
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: Of those reasons.
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: So she has her reasons for.
- 1:35:16Speaker 2: Being with him.
- 1:35:17Speaker 3: Okay, But here's the other thing, Like, she's likely at
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: least inculcated to feminism, even if she isn't an overt feminist,
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: so she probably believes some variation of men oppressed women.
- 1:35:31Speaker 3: So and I'm not saying Waller necessarily treats her badly,
- 1:35:35Speaker 3: but let's say he did, how would she distinguish between
- 1:35:41Speaker 3: a man who treats her badly and any other man.
- 1:35:47Speaker 3: When feminists tell her that she is oppressed by men
- 1:35:51Speaker 3: by virtue of being in a relationship with one, So
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: why wouldn't she maximize the money she gets if that's
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: the only variable, If every single man she's going to
- 1:36:02Speaker 3: be in a relationship with is going to exploit her
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: on some level, do you get what I'm You see
- 1:36:08Speaker 3: what I'm getting at, Brian? Yeah, Like there the people
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: who say that all men are exploiting all women have
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: no grounds to say anything to a woman who has
- 1:36:24Speaker 3: basically accepted that she's going to be exploited and just
- 1:36:27Speaker 3: got the best bang for her buck, so to speak,
- 1:36:32Speaker 3: right like it unless you are arguing that there should
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: be no human relationships whatsoever, once you set the bar
- 1:36:41Speaker 3: to every single man is oppressing every single woman through
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: his relationship with her, because that is the sight of oppression.
- 1:36:51Speaker 3: And literally that's what they said, and literally the Red
- 1:36:54Speaker 3: Stockings manifesto is what all current day feminism derives from,
- 1:36:59Speaker 3: is it is inherited from. And they say that men,
- 1:37:04Speaker 3: when woman is in a relationship with a man, that
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: is the sight of her oppression. So how can they
- 1:37:09Speaker 3: possibly say anything to this situation where a woman has
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: simply maximized what she gets in response to being oppressed.
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: So Waller's wife gets millions, but she's no different than
- 1:37:27Speaker 3: Joe the Plumber's wife, who is also oppressed by Joe
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: the plumber, who only gets you know, one hundred and
- 1:37:33Speaker 3: fifty thousand a year, which.
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: Is not bad.
- 1:37:36Speaker 3: Yeah, but then she is also like Joe the Plummer's
- 1:37:39Speaker 3: wife is also oppressed, is like the wife of the
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: cashier in seven eleven is also oppressed by him. Right,
- 1:37:50Speaker 3: there's no there's no variable on the oppression. The only
- 1:37:53Speaker 3: variable is how much money the dude makes, how much
- 1:37:57Speaker 3: of a bag you can yoink from him at the
- 1:37:59Speaker 3: end of the day. And that's what she's maximized. So
- 1:38:03Speaker 3: if you're going to say, if you're gonna say that
- 1:38:05Speaker 3: every relationship, every time a man gets in a relationship
- 1:38:08Speaker 3: with a woman, it's oppression, then you like, how can
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: you how can you judge women maximizing what they get
- 1:38:19Speaker 3: under that impression when that oppression is eternal, Like they
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: can never escape it, women can never escape it. Feminists
- 1:38:24Speaker 3: never explain how women escape being oppressed by men even
- 1:38:28Speaker 3: when they're single. They're still oppressed by them. So why
- 1:38:31Speaker 3: would you say, like, why would you be feeling sorry
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: for the woman who has managed to make a begag
- 1:38:37Speaker 3: herself a millionaire through being oppressed.
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: By a man.
- 1:38:42Speaker 3: Why would you How could you say that she's not
- 1:38:44Speaker 3: actually winning the very race that you say she's sin
- 1:38:49Speaker 3: Do you see what I'm saying, Bray, Yeah, I mean
- 1:38:52Speaker 3: like feminists want to say that oppression is eternal and
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: it's in it's even in the most passing relationships between
- 1:38:59Speaker 3: men and women.
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: Well, this woman is turning her oppression into millions.
- 1:39:06Speaker 3: Kay, let feminists, she'd be women according to your own rules.
- 1:39:11Speaker 3: If oppression is e turtle, the only variable is how
- 1:39:14Speaker 3: much money I met a woman makes from it, and
- 1:39:18Speaker 3: she's won.
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: She has won the lottery. Anyway.
- 1:39:22Speaker 3: I know that's a weird sort of way to look
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: at it, but I'm like bracketing their nonsense. Anyway, finish
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: it off and maybe they can get.
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: A level of finish it yeah, may I don't know,
- 1:39:31Speaker 1: And it have to be really quick, all right, unhealed trauma.
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: They are reflecting onto the world. The main reason behind
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: this misogyny, as many say, could be that their moms
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: hugged them already read that part. I'm sorry.
- 1:39:42Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: Edmund Burke once said, the only thing necessary for the
- 1:39:45Speaker 1: triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: This disturbing strain within the budding menisphere is no mirror
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: foible and must be taken seriously otherwise it risks spreading
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: as rapidly as a pandemic. Free speech is beneficial until
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: its consequences become inexorable and dangerous. Platforms like YouTube and Instagram,
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: which are their basic source of income and virality, should
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: take some constructive steps to stop these guys from spreading
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: soft terrorism. Soft terrorism. Okay, so that's the end of
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: the article. So basically he wants censorship. There you go.
- 1:40:23Speaker 3: This guy is jealous of these men and the women
- 1:40:25Speaker 3: that they get.
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: So he's trying to insist to himself that.
- 1:40:30Speaker 3: Those women there would be better off in his harem,
- 1:40:34Speaker 3: the harem of a feminist man. Yep, he's the one
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: that deserves those women, not these dudes. Well, you know
- 1:40:43Speaker 3: you could increase your odds of getting a woman by
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: stopping being a feminist, My dude, then you won't have
- 1:40:49Speaker 3: to pay two point three times more than a conservative man.
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