Latest / Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast / ITB Week 1 Pregame Show With Greg Cosell: Philadelphia Eagles Vs. Washington Commanders

Transcript

ITB Week 1 Pregame Show With Greg Cosell: Philadelphia Eagles Vs. Washington Commanders · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to the Inside the Birds pregame show.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: It's been quite a while since February, but we are
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: back for another year. It's Jeff Mosier, it's Adam Kaplan,
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: and you know when we got the pregame show, we
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: get the best tape breakdown guy there is in Greg Cosell.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: You've seen him on ESPN's NFL matchup show. He's the master. Greg,
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: it's been too long since we talked some ball, man.
• 0:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a long time. Of course, as you
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: guys know, I don't really take a lot of time off,
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: so I've been grinding away all summer, but I'm just
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: really glad there's real games, that I've actually had a
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: chance to watch two games, real games, and I'll be
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: pretty excited when I come in Monday morning, which will
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: probably be about 5 a.m., but I'll be ready to
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: watch some games that really matter.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: And that's the key word. They actually matter. We got
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: our appetite wet a little bit this week. And now
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: we're going to preview the Eagles' first game since that
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: 23-19 playoff loss to the 49ers that ended their 2025 season.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: They will play the Commanders in Week 1. And listen,
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a theme not
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: just for the Eagles and Commanders, Greg, right, and Adam,
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: but for nearly every– I don't want to say every,
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: but a lot of teams in the league made a
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: lot of changes this at play caller, whether offensive or defensive.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Here's the situation.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: The Eagles may want an offense. Commanders changed both their
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: offense and defensive play caller and brought in some interesting
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: systems that I really look forward to getting into with
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: you guys on this show.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: It is week one. It will be at the link.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: It is a 425 game and it'll be the first
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: time for fans of both franchises to be able to
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: see the new concepts and the new players and how
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: they fit those concepts.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: So as we get into this, Matchup. Greg, you said
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: it best.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: A lot of this is going to be speculative because
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: when guys come from trees, especially guys like Sean Mannion
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: or Durante Jones, the defensive coordinator, or David Brown, right,
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: who have never even play called elsewhere before or were
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: just recently playing in the league, you really don't know
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: what you're going to get.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, all you can do is look at
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: where they've been because younger coaches tend to coach what
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: they know. And so when you're with a particular system
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: or a particular scheme, you tend to gravitate toward that.
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's not possible that they haven't
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: studied other things, because as you guys know, coaches live
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: this 24-7, 365. I mean, even when they're off for
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: a month, they're still thinking about scheming. So, you know,
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting, for instance, Durante Jones wouldn't do something else,
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: but you know that there'll be a lot of the
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: Brian Flores system in what he brings to the table.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: Right, for sure. All right.
• 2:49
  Speaker 4: Good stuff.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: So, Adam, so often we do this show.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: We do the matchups, and the first thing we have
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: to do is talk about all the major injuries that
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: are going to change the matchup. But as we go
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: into this game, the commanders, who had a pretty expansive
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: injury report throughout the week, it looks like they're in
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: pretty good shape, and the Eagles, of course, are not
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: going to have their pass rusher that they acquired via
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: trade in the offseason, Jonathan Grenard. But it was trending.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: Even if he made it there, we kept saying he
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to play a lot anyway.
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't real confident he was going to play.
• 3:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's making progress. He was in pads this week.
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: That's good. He's getting used to being back on the field.
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty certain he worked the previous week because they
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: were working when the media wasn't there.
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: I was so excited. I was in pads this week, too.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: I was so excited.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, is that an age? Are you age-jerking yourself, Greg?
• 3:42
  Speaker 4: That's pretty good, Jeff. That's pretty good. But yeah, but
• 3:47
  Speaker 4: here's the thing. Let's get over to Washington, right? Yeah.
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: Let's not forget. Yes, their injury report. Everyone who is
• 3:53
  Speaker 4: on their 53-man roster will be available. Correct. But it's
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: who is not going to be available because they're on reserve.
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: Well, of course.
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: Army tells us we'll miss the entire regular season.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: He's got a tough injury. Yep. They're going to go
• 4:05
  Speaker 4: with Brandon Coleman. who started two years ago, but because
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: he didn't do well enough, they made the trade for Tunsell.
• 4:11
  Speaker 4: Johnny Newton is on IR. Trey Amos, their best corner,
• 4:14
  Speaker 4: who I know they were excited about, he's on IR.
• 4:18
  Speaker 4: Dietrich Weiss is out. And Dorrance Armstrong, who's also back
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: from injury, he's suspended for a game. So they have
• 4:24
  Speaker 4: some important guys who are not going to be here
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: for this game.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that is out.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: I know that the Commander fan may come on the
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: show and say, hey, the Commanders won 12 games two
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: years ago without Laramie Tunsell. However, you didn't draw it
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: up that way. They wanted him to be there. He
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: had a really nice year last year. Unfortunately, the rest
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: of the team didn't, and now he'll be out for
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: a long time. Back to Brandon Coleman. Greg, real quick,
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: while we're on the subject of offensive line.
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: What did you think, though?
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: I thought they might have pondered the idea of moving
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: Connerly to left tackle because that's where he played at Oregon.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: They're keeping him at right tackle, Sam Cosme, right guard.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: Does that– Is that like a big disparity between right
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: and left for you?
• 5:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that Connelly went through quite a learning
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: process a year ago, and it took him a while
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: to kind of feel really comfortable at right tackle because
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: he played left tackle, obviously, at Oregon. And my sense
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: is they don't want to jump him back and forth
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: because I think they probably feel– because he's very– he's
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: got higher level traits and I think they feel he
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: could probably become one of the better right tackles in
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: the league. And you don't want to just keep yo-yoing
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: him back and forth. So that would be my guess.
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: Obviously I don't, you know, no one from the team
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: is telling me that, but that would just be my opinion.
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: And Coleman, obviously he's not exactly what you wanted left tackle,
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: but he's played left tackle. And, you know, so now look,
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: Are there situations where you're probably going to feel like
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: you have to help him based on the, you know,
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: game situation, play call?
• 5:52
  Speaker 4: Certainly.
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: But you can line him up, and if everything else
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: goes okay, depending on how the game flow is, you
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: can get through the game. You know, he's not one
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: of those guys that's, you know, just going to be,
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: you know, a mad rush at the quarterback.
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 6:09
  Speaker 4: We should add they cut D.J. Humphreys, the journeyman left tackle.
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: You might remember him years ago as a first-round pick.
• 6:14
  Speaker 4: They cut him Friday, so. They're going to be tested,
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: but they're going to have Nick Allegretti back, who missed
• 6:20
  Speaker 4: all the preseason in training camp. They're moving him from
• 6:22
  Speaker 4: guard to center. They cut Tyler Biotish. So they've got
• 6:26
  Speaker 4: some changes here, Jeff, as we send it back to you,
• 6:28
  Speaker 4: that are very concerning when you go up against this
• 6:31
  Speaker 4: Eagles offensive line.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: And so now's a good time to get into systems
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: and matchups and personnel. Real quick, though, from an Eagles side,
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: Eli Stowers, the rookie tight end who really struggled in camp,
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: was dealing with a hamstring injury. Looks like he's questionable
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: to play. I know he told reporters in the locker
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: room he expects to play. We'll see if the coaches
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: believe in that as well or agree with that because
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: he really was behind the eight ball in training camp.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: But he was questionable on the injury report. Why don't
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: we start off with the big talking point of the offseason,
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: and that would be the Eagles offense, Sean Mannion, the
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, what the offense can look like if
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: things are going well and how it will match up.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: Against this new commander's defense and defensive concept. So, Greg,
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of coaches who have coached.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: In this Shanahan-McVay scheme, they always talk about your footwork
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: and how that matches up with the timing of the routes,
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: and you're supposed to almost hear your feet to know
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: it's time to throw. And I'm wondering if you can
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: sort of paint that picture of what that exactly means
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: by hearing your feet within the structure of what's supposed
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: to be done offensively.
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: Well, in that system, and I can, every system is different. Now,
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: one could argue that footwork's always important, but I can
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: tell you for a fact that, for instance, and Adam
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: may know this because I've had this conversation with Brian Hoyer,
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: and Brian Hoyer played at the Josh McDaniel system, and
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: he said they never spoke about footwork in that system. Now, obviously,
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: they're not saying that footwork doesn't matter. Obviously, you can't
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: throw if you're off balance. You can't really do anything
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: athletic if you're off balance, but in the sort of
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: Shanahan-McVeigh scheme of school of thought, everything is highly choreographed.
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: It's almost like a dance. It's like ballet. Everything with
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: your drop and your footwork is choreographed to tie in
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: and sync up with the routes, with the depth of routes.
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: So it's truly highly choreographed. And if you're off, and
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: don't forget, it's really a game of milliseconds. So if
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: you're off, by just the smallest amount in that system,
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: you are off. That's the way it's taught. Like I said,
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: the best word is choreography. It's choreographed. It's like a
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: dance routine. So that is something, again, I don't know
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: how Jalen has specifically been taught by previous coaches. He's
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: obviously had a lot of them. So I don't know
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: how he's been taught previously, but this is truly taught
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: that way. This is why someone like Bill Walsh, because
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: these systems are really continuations of Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: always said he could tell how a quarterback is playing
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: by looking at him from the waist down. So this
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: system really demands that. This is not, hey, just take
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: the snap drop back and, you know, let's throw it
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: to the open guy. And again, I'm simplifying to the point, obviously,
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: of being ridiculous, but it's not like that. It's truly,
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: you know, so choreographed that you have to be exactly right.
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: Jeff, there's that video that Steve Young talks about it,
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: and then he did it with Jerry Rice, where we're
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: blindfolded practice. Yes. Going to what Greg just said, because
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: that made me think of it.
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: I talked to Steve Young about that, by the way,
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: because I've talked to him. It's so cool.
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: I couldn't believe what I saw, because on the rhythmic
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: part of it, he knows three-step drop, five-step drop, exactly
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: the timing when it's got to be at. There's a
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: clock that in his head. He knows how to do
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: it on that third step out.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: And you're throwing to a spot that the receiver's not
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: gotten to yet. Steve Young said the biggest issue he had,
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: now he was six feet, he said the biggest issue
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: he had, and he finally mastered it, obviously he's a
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, was that he finally mastered the fact
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: that he had to deliver the football and throw it
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: to where a receiver was not, knowing that.
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: The receiver would be there. Trust him.
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: That's the choreographed part of it. You're not sort of
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: waiting to see, gee, is that going to be open?
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: You just have to trust the whole choreography of the system.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Right. So when we look at what now the Eagles
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: are going to do, right, Greg, within the function of
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: that system. First of all, their running style is going
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: to be different. It's going to be a lot of
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: wide zone. We've seen that in training camp with our
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: own eyes.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: Which also plays well into the boot action, which obviously
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: is something Jalen can do without a problem.
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: I've always wondered about Saquon Barkley, based on conversations that
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: we've had with you, about his running style, being a searcher.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: Saquon said himself he's always been a two-footed, two-cut runner,
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: where first cut if it's not there he can cut
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: on the left and he's super human enough to either
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: spin into.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: A hole or find a hole or reverse hurdle.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: Himself into a hole whereas this kind of zone wide
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: zone blocking system takes one cut so.
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: Well he certainly that's a mental thing he certainly has
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: the physical traits to do it sure i mean he
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: certainly can stick his foot in the round ground and
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: accelerate that we know he can do that so that's
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: a mental thing the comfort level of of you know
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: because there's a combination of patience and decisiveness. And that's
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: a balance that you have to find because when you take,
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: take the ball from the quarterback, if it's sort of
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: wide zone, you know, you have to be patient. It's
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: not just take it and go. You have, you have
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: to be able to intuitively read gap fluidity, defensive flow,
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: you know, that that's all innate. You're not thinking that
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: as you're doing it, you know, it just becomes innate.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: Some guys are, are, just master. I mean, we saw
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: someone like, I'm going back years, but like a Terrell Davis,
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: when he was with Gibbs, Alex Gibbs in Denver, you know,
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: he just had an innate feel for doing that. And,
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: you know, some backs are just better than others. Some
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: backs prefer to run inside, you know, more gap scheme
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: stuff where they're literally, they know, Hey, I'm going to
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: run off, you know, the ass as it were of
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: this particular offensive lineman. This is a little more of,
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: I've got to be patient. I've got to let it develop.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: And then once I really see the spot, you stick
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: your foot in the ground and go, but it has
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: to happen way quicker than I'm saying it, obviously, but
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: that's what it is.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: So what are you, what are you kind of looking
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: most for out of this new Eagles offense? Because, you know,
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: I think back to the Jags last year and the
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: first month was pretty rough as they were trying to
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: pick up and then they eventually got it and things sailed,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: but you know, who, who does the system benefit the most?
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's, they're trying to freshen their concepts. They're trying
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: to get Jalen Hurts to play within a different system,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: but is there a receiver, a lineman, anybody that you
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: think whose strengths can really be capitalized other than maybe
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Devante Smith, who's just good probably.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I think the O-line loves it
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: because the O-line there's, there's a lot less, believe it
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: or not, I had this conversation with Lane Johnson at
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: the O-line masterminds and See, Lane Johnson has spent his
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: whole career, and it's why, in my view, he's the
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Famer and does not get the
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: credit that he should.
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's one of the best right.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: Tackles ever to play the game. And I don't think
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: people talk about him that way. But Lane Johnson has
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: spent most of his career doing one-on-one pass protection. And
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: this is a system where there's less of that. There's
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: a lot more, you know, don't forget, think of it
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: this way. If you're going to work off the outside zone,
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: you know, at least mid-zone to outside zone run game
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: concept as your foundation. Think about the impact on the
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: defense in a couple of ways, particularly when you're under center,
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: which is the other thing that they've obviously done. And
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: I'm a big under center believer, by the way, always
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: have been. But a couple of things. Number one, the
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: second level of the defense, the players you're really trying
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: to put in conflict, they have to wait longer to see,
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: is it a handoff or not a handoff? So they're
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: longer in conflict. Secondly, even the D line, when you
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: do mid or stretch zone, very often their first move
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: is lateral, not vertical. So now in a game of milliseconds,
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: that's a big deal. That's a really big deal. So
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: it just makes it, relatively speaking, nothing's easy in the NFL,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: but relatively speaking, it makes it easier on your pass protection. Now,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: does every team need a drop back passing game because
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: when it's third and nine? Yes, of course they do. But,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of big plays come off the
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: play-action pass. You know, and then that's– I think that
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: most people would agree that even when the Eagles were
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: playing well, that their pass game very often had kind
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: of a maybe-yes, maybe-no feel to it.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Right? I mean, I think even, you know.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Even the most ardent Jalen Hurts lovers– and by the way,
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I did a deep dive on Hurts, and I believe
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: he can execute this this game well, and we'll get
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: into that in a sec, but, but even if you're a,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: you know, a lover of Jalen Hurts, you'd have to
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: admit that this past game, you almost didn't know week
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: to week.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Right.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: You know, I think that that's a perfectly fair statement
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: and you're trying, they want to move beyond that.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: They want to.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Feel like, you know, we know what we can do
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: every single week and we can do it against every
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: single opponent. You think Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan says
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: on a week to week basis, gee, I don't know
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: what we can do this week. They go in with
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: the attitude of, you know, hey, this is what we do,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: and we can do it against anybody. Are there tweaks
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: depending on the opponent? Of course. But, you know, you're
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: not changing your philosophy week to week.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Right. So I would add this, though. The big story
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: for the offseason is the healthy offensive line. Obviously, until
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: they snap the ball, we're not going to know because
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: these guys didn't play in the preseason, though they were
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: in a joint practice with New England where they look
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: pretty good. but I think Greg told us pretty clearly
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: last year, the pass pro was not the problem. The
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: run blocking was, let's call it a problem. It was bad,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: but they look healthier. They look healthier. And that's something
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: when we look at the run game and the stretch
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: element to it, seeing how they move, this is something.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: And we'll ask Greg, when we do the inside of
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: the tape show, how they look, how they moving, especially initially,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: like we'll see early on because it's a different offensive scheme,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: particularly with a run scheme. How does it look? And
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: how does Barkley look at that? That's one of the
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: mysteries coming into this. How's this going to work? Well,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Greg's kind of outlined how it should look, but you
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: don't know how they're going to execute it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: No, that's what you don't know. But, you know, in
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: doing the deep dive, and I did a deep dive
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: both on their offense and defense this summer, and I
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: really obviously looked at Jalen in detail because, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: obviously that's the story. There are some plays, and I guarantee,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: because obviously Sean Mannion's doing a deeper dive than I am,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: as is the quarterback coach. But there are some plays
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: where you look at and you go, okay, this is
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: what they're going to do. There's a 26-yard completion to
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Devonta Smith against the Giants week eight. Hertz is under center.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: They had Latu in the offset fullback alignment, and he
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: did iso lead action into the line, basically inserting iso
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: lead run action. And Jalen threw bang play action to Smith,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: perfectly timed, well done, 26 yards. I mean, you see
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: plays like that and you say, you know what? This
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: can be done because that's the kind of thing that
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: they want to be a foundation and a staple of
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: what they do. You know, there's times where they used
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: motion effectively last year and they caused problems for the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: eye discipline because there was a lot of backfield action.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: That's the reason you do a lot of backfield action.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: It messes with the eye discipline of second level defenders.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: There are numerous plays from last year where you look
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: and you say, you know what? This translates. They can
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: do this.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: So, Greg, remember the play? It was the game where
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: he turned the ball over four times, but he made
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: that unbelievable throw. Was it to Devontae, Jeff?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, against the Chargers, I think in overtime.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Fourth down, maybe? Fourth and long?
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was an angry man throw. That was
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: a big-time NFL throw. I like that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was 28 yards versus the Chargers. It
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: came on a high-low concept, which is a foundation, by
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the way, of this offense. And it was one of
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Hurts' best timing and anticipation throws of the season.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, there are plays where, you know, the
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: biggest question to me with Jalen Hurts is not that
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: whether he's capable physically of doing this.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: But the issue that he's had at times is he
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: doesn't process throws that are defined, but that need that
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: high level timing and anticipation. He doesn't process them as
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: viable throws that must be turned loose. And I think
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: that's the biggest question you have. Because obviously this offense
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: demands many more throws between the numbers, between the hashes,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: and there's more bodies there. But those, by NFL standards,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: many of those are clean throws. They may not look
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: clean because there's bodies, but they're clean. And so will
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Jalen see those as viable throws? Because there's no metric
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: for that, by the way. That's the one thing that
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: no one has a metric for, throws that should be
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: made that aren't made. And that's the one question.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: There's a Jekyll and Hyde nature to his game where
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: he has made sometimes the difficult throws look routine and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the routine ones look difficult.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Or not throw them.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Or not throw them.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: We would highlight some of the beautiful throws that he,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that he threw, whether it was tight window or down
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the field. But then the ones that he seemed to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: not want to throw the most were those schemed like
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: five to 15.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Yard type routes where it's right there.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: It's like, right.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: AJ was there or bam. And he just didn't want
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball there. And like you're saying, that's
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a big, big identity of this new.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Because he can do, it's not as if he's not
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: capable of doing this.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: You know, it's, it's, how does he, that, because that's
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: a question, you know, you always look at too, when
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: you evaluate quarterbacks, like I, obviously I do a ton
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: of quarterback evaluation with college quarterbacks, And sometimes it's hard
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to know because you don't know how they're taught, but
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: how does he see the game? Is there, you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: is he seeing it to make these kinds of throws?
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Because I think that's to some degree innate.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Jeff, one thing, and it's something we've talked, the three
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: of us have talked about for three years where it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: almost like they coached him up to be conservative. Just,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: just the like, okay. After what happened in 23, we
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: returned the ball over a ton of times play within
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: play within the system. And we'll be fine. Don't turn
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: the ball over. But at some point, and this is
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: why the Eagles or Howie and Nick decided this had
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: to change, particularly the head coach, to junk his scheme.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: They want to, as Jeff, excuse me, Greg said earlier,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: they want to move forward. They want to make it
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: more modern, like a lot of these great offenses. And
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: by the way, majority of the teams now are going
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: with West Coast. It is like been the rage last
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: five or six years. Like that, that's what, that's where
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: the league is going with, with timing passing game, timing
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: based passing game.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Don't forget, obviously Jalen Hurts is not Phillip Rivers. They're
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: totally different, but Nick Sirianni has that background. So he's
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: seen a quarterback play that way. And, you know, he
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: knows that that's a really good way to play, you know?
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: So again, we can talk about this forever, but the
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: bottom line is, I believe that he's capable of doing it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I believe that it could be a work in progress.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: And I hope fans, if it's not great week one
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and week two, they don't think, oh my God, the,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: you know, the, the earth is falling, you know, sky
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: is falling, but I think that it will play out.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: You know, you, you made a great point, Jeff. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: thought talking about Trevor Lawrence with Liam Cohen, I mean,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: you know, the first part of last season, People were wondering, gee,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: what is Trevor Lawrence? Maybe he's a bust. And then
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, whatever week it was, and I
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: watched every game, you just saw– because so much of it, too,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: has to do with stuff that's not purely X's and O's.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: You can just see sort of a confidence, the way
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: a quarterback drops, hits his back foot, just sees it right,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: knows where he's going, and the ball comes out. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: it could take– in an ideal world, it doesn't take
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of time. But it could take some time.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: You guys, I'm sure, have seen this phenomenon, right, where
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: person A and person B can make the same statement,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: same exact statement. But if people like person A, they'll
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: agree with him. But if people don't like person B,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: they'll disagree with.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: The same statement.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: And why I'm bringing that up is because I've already
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: brought this up with Adam on Inside the Birds, Greg.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I wanted your opinion. I recently used Sam Darnold as
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: an example.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Of saying, hey, if Jalen Hurts, because Adam was just
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: mentioning how they conservatively coached him to not turn the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: ball over. And I said, well, if Sam Darnold, he's
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion, and he played well last year,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: but he did throw 14 interceptions. He still has that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: part to his game, but he also drove the ball
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: down the field to Jackson, Smith, and Jigba quite a bit,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and that was a big part of their success.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: In the play-action pass game, he had a ridiculously high
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: yards per attempt. They pushed the ball down the field.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: By the way, West Coast scheme, West Coast scheme, it
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: got Clint Kubiak head coach. Yeah, absolutely.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: So it's funny because I've been talking about that with Jalen,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: would you take a few more risky throws, potentially more
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: interceptions for the, for the reward of more debt, more
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: of a harmonious offense. And recently this exact thing, topic
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: was brought up on WIP. And I think Spike Eskin
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was the one who said, you know, maybe it's okay
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: if he throws a few more interceptions, if it means more,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and everybody just because he has a reputation for being
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the rabble rouser, right?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Everybody's like, you're stupid. You're an idiot.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You root against the Eagles, you know, but I actually
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: think in a, in an objectively way, if you can
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: get a better, more rhythmic offense, but it comes at
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the expense of every once in a while, you turn
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the ball over more than you used to.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: That's okay.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: If you're getting a higher reward out of it with,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: better more functional passing offense.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And you know i learned this from mike martz i
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: was fortunate this goes back many many years when he
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: was the the head coach of the rams and he
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: invited me out to training camp and i was out
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: there for three days and he basically said you're a
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: coach you can do whatever you want sit in any
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: meeting sit with the coaches you know when they would
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: talk you know after training camp it'd be 11 o'clock
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: at night i'd be sitting with him you know mike
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: martz always said that interceptions are have to be looked
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: at as individual plays, not as just like a number,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: you know, I have to understand why a guy throws it,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you know, because sometimes they're not, look, we all know
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: that quote unquote, an interception is not what you want
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: to do, but there's degrees of interceptions, you know, and Jeff,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I think that's what you're getting at, you know, and.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: And.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Again, then it comes down to how you feel. And
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of a coaching staff now about your team.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Like for instance, two years ago, okay. When they won
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the super bowl, Obviously they were a team built on,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: on a historic run game and the number one defense
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: in the league. So that's where your quarterback and Jalen
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: made some big plays. It's not as if he didn't
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: make any big plays, but that's where you want to
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: make sure that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: You don't turn the ball over. You know, it depends
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: on your team.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: You know, you know, Joe Burrow these past and he's
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: been hurt, but when he plays, you know, he's got
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: to put up 35 points just for his team to compete.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Now it might be different this year. That's another question
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: for another conversation. But when you are in that kind
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: of situation, you can't be playing not to turn the
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: ball over. So it depends on your team. You've got
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: to make some throws. Joe Burrow has to make throws.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: He can't throw checkdowns all game. Or he can't take
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a sack just because, oh, I don't want to make
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: a tough throw. Jalen can take a sack when you're
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: on the team from two years ago. Because when they
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: punt it away, the likelihood is they're going to get
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: it back pretty quick and the score is not going
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: to have changed.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And one thing Adam and I have talked about, and Adam,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I still, you know, there's got to be a certain
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: level of patience with this offense transition and no going
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: back to what it used to be just because they
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: could win games that way in 2024 or 2025. You know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: there's no going back to the old way of doing
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: things offensively. It has to stay. It has to be
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: within what Sean is trying to do to this offense.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Right. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: One quick point. Look, I'm not saying that the playoff
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: loss to the Niners was the reason for everything, but
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, that's a problem. You're
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: at home. They struggled to move the ball against a
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: defense that didn't have Fred Warner, Nick Bosa. And by
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: the way, I've already watched that side of the ball
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: from last night's game. And for people who watch it
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: on TV, I've already watched the tape. you're dealing with,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, these guys immediately showed up as being two
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: of the best players at their position in the league
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and the Niners were not playing with them in that game.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: You can't, you can't struggle to score against that defense
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: in a playoff game at home.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Right. Yeah. And what I wanted to say off what
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: you brought up, Jeff, is that you got to understand
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: when Jeff, Jeff Lurie and Joe Banner came in 1994,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: you know, they studied the Walsh system. They studied the
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: teams that were successful and they really studied the Niners
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: and they wanted a world-class offense. And you saw it
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: in Doug's last year. They hired Rich Scangarello. They wanted
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: to bring the West Coast scheme. It just didn't work out.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: But this time, and by the way, the roster is
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: way better. Okay, way better. Yes, they don't have A.J. Brown,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: but they have a good roster on offense. They feel
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: like this is it now. They have to be forward-thinking.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: That's the whole deal here. They don't want to go
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: back to 1980s football. They want to have a real
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: passing game. Jeff and I would talk, Greg, to other teams,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: and they'd watch Eagles tape last season. They'd go, what
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: is this? Yeah. What are you doing? Like, are you,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: do you not believe in your quarterback? Why won't you
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: run more modern concepts? Well, it's Sirianni's offense. It's scaled down,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: but they're not like you said, Jeff, they're not doing
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: that anymore. This is a, this is a real modern
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: West coast scheme with timing and it's got to happen.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So that, that really encapsulates what we wanted to talk
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: about with the Eagles offense. Now they have to go
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: up against the commander's defense that has a new play caller.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And I give credit, to Dan Quinn, who was a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: defensive play caller and is a defensive coach, to bring
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in someone, hand him the keys. And obviously, Greg, Durante
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Jones has been coaching under Brian Flores in Minnesota for
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a couple of years. And you would imagine that the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: commander's defense is going to conceptually look like a Flores defense.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure there will be some Durante Jones wrinkles.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But what we know about that defense is, you better
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: know where the blitz is coming from because it's going
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to be coming.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Well, they're unique in one regard.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: A couple of things we'll get into, but the bottom line,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: sort of the 30,000-foot view is where Flores is different
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: than pretty much every other coach in the league is
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: he's high-percentage blitz, but almost no man coverage behind it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: It's high-percentage blitz with heavy zone.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: So there are voids.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: So the question is, it all comes down to picking
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: it up because Flores, The thing that they do, and
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: this is hard now. I hope people understand this is hard.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: He's a big, Flores and I assume Durante Jones, a
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: big believer in showing six and seven man fronts. And
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: you've got to account for people. You can't say, well, gee,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think Jeff Mosier's coming or I don't think
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan's coming.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: And then they come and you have nobody to account
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: for them. You've got to account for people. Okay.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: But a lot of times out of those six or
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: seven man fronts, he might rush three and have an
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: eight man zone concept behind it. And so teams sometimes
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: get stuck with, with max pro and only sending two
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: or three receivers out and there's eight in coverage and
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the numbers don't work for you.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: The math doesn't work.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: You know, But the point is, when he does that,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: you have got to make sure you're accounting for people.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Because if you're not, you're going to have negative plays
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: somewhere along the line.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Is that harder to do with when you're introducing a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: new offense and a new blocking scheme and you've got
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a new offensive line coach?
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I guarantee since the schedule came out, they've been working
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: on this at times. Maybe not every single day, but
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: they didn't just start working on it this past Wednesday.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: And remember, by the way, playing Brian Flores last year,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Hurts had a huge game in Minnesota. He did.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: He's had two big ones the last two times, yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Geronte Jones was their PGC, their passing coordinator, in addition
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: to being their defensive backs coach. So he put in,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: he helped with the coverages. And Greg just said they
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: play a lot of zone. Smitty had, in fact, the
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: two receivers, Brown and Smith, combined for over 300 yards. Yep. Yeah,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: they had a huge game. Yep, yep. So that's interesting
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: because they'll know what it's going to look like.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: And actually, Hurts, I think a later touchdown he threw
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: to A.J. Brown in that game was a great snapshot
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: of delivering with timing and precise ball placement. That was
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: one of his best quarterback plays of the season.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I remember it well.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: He hit his back foot and the ball came out
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: because I remember stopping it. I saw it again this
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: summer when I did the Hurts stuff.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: He literally hit.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: His back foot and started his delivery and Brown hadn't
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: even come close to coming out of his break yet.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: So Jalen is more than capable of doing these things.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: It's not as if he's incapable.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Right. Also, in that game, he threw a touchdown to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Devontae Smith from a jumbo, under-center, play-action look where he,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you know, it was like the first game where they
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: started to really tinker with that kind of stuff, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: he threw a really nice touchdown to Devontae Smith that way.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, you know, they've had good success, but,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, that doesn't mean that it's easy to do, but,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, because you can also have negative plays.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So Adams made a point, you know, the Commanders, they
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: spent a lot of money this offseason on guys who
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: probably– aren't the value of what they're paid, but nonetheless,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: are they upgrades over what the Commanders had last year?
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Well, that's not what you're trying to do. You know that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, the numbers become the number because that's the market. Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about someone like Kalevan Chasen, who
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: actually had a good year in New England, but, you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you don't view him as like one of the elite
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: pass rushers in the league, but you got to pay
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: him if you want him.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, you could say the same about
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Odafe Owe, who had a nice year with the Chargers
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: last year. And what I really wonder, Greg, is now
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that they've got Sonny Styles at off-ball linebacker and they
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: signed Leo Chennault, does this enable Durante Jones to use
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Frankie Louvu in a much.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: More advantageous way than the prior regimes were able.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: To use him? Almost like an Andrew Van Ginkle?
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, more of a rusher than anything.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: My understanding is he's actually going to rush the passer
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: more because with Chennault and Sonny Styles, we're talking about
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Louvu here. Frankie Lou was the guy that I expect
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: to rush the passer probably more than he has.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Well, in the previous regime, you know, before Jones got there,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: in their dime, Lou was an edge pass rusher.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: But Lou does have the kind of traits where you
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: could see him being one of those, you know, jack
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: of all trades, you know, movable chess piece guys, you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: like a Van Ginkle was in Minnesota.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Right, right. The guy that I really.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Like that they signed is Nick Cross. I think he'll
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: play the Harrison Smith role for them. And I think
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: he's capable of that. He's a really good player that
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: probably a lot of people don't know about. You know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: obviously Indianapolis is not one of those teams everybody talks about,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: but he's a really, really good safety.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Greg, do you remember if Luvu, by the way, before
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: we'll get, we'll get their secondary and secondary, was Luvu
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: a pass rusher at Washington state? Do we remember that?
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if I did him coming
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: out at him. So I don't remember. He wasn't drafted.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: First of all, he wasn't even drafted. Yeah. So I'm
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: not going to make it up and tell you. I
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: don't know. I just don't know. But again, Jeff, on
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: your point, they've invested in terms of draft capital and cash.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Kinlaw's getting paid big money. Deron Payne, they decided to
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: keep him one more year. Louisville guys extension a couple
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: of years ago. Adafio is going to make over 20
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: million this season. And Leo Chennault, Chasen. I mean, a
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: lot of these guys weren't on the team last year.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Chennault's one of those kind of, another one of those
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: guys that can do a lot of different things in
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: a defense. So they probably feel that that versatility fits
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: what they want to do.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So, Adam, I mean, they have seven new starters on defense.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it and I go
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: through the list and I look at guys like Tim Settle,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Greg mentioned Chase on, you know, the draft Sonny Stiles.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Amik Robertson is, again, not an ideal outside corner.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: For you, but he actually played well.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: He's going to play nickel.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: With the Lions, and he'll play nickel. Sanders still will
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: play outside. He's probably better at nickel. But I don't
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: look at the personnel on this defense and say it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: worse than last year. And I think it could be
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. And if they can hold the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: fort down until Trey Amos gets back, then maybe they've
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: got something to build off of.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Well, the true– like, see, Sanders still did not play
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: that well last season. They don't think he was great.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: He was elite or pretty close to it. He was
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: really good year one. Last year he dropped off. There's
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: that question. Is he truly a corner? Is he a nickel? Okay.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Then you got Russell Douglas who won a Superbowl nine
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: years ago with the Eagles. So they're not real good
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: at corner now. Like that's, that's that I understand it's
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: week one. The scores are down. Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: They have Douglas and they have Fabian Moreau, two guys
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: that you can line up with. They don't kill you,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: but you know, obviously cause they've been with so many teams,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: teams always feel they can do better.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, Moreau has been with, this is his
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: eighth team. Yeah. Like that's, I know the Eagles aren't
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: going to, they're not going to be a throw the
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: ball team, but when they throw it, they should have
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: some success.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just go back and look like Marshawn
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Lattimore was on team last year.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: He was injured a lot. He did not play well.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Will Harris wasn't a great find for them at safety.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Amos is hurt. He, you know, Bobby Wagner was still
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: good last year, but he was starting.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: To really, he was, he was starting to lose it. Yeah.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Um, Von Miller was a starting edge. Frankie Luvo, again,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was used in a way that's going to be a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: lot differently than he's going to be used this year.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I think you can make an argument.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Man, if they can hold– because Newton, their defensive tackle
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: is also on IR, right?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a pretty decent player. You can make
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: an argument.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: They got a little more juicier guys here on the
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: edges to attack the quarterbacks, and that's where the Durante
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Jones element comes in. Does he– Does he do what
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the Eagles and commanders are hoping their new offensive coordinators do,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: which is just take that personnel, freshen it up with
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: some schemes and make the other team fear them again.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Football is finally back and PrizePix is bringing out their
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: best offer yet. New users who sign up will get
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: $ 150 in lineups if you win your.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: First $ 5 lineup.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: If you win your first $ 5 lineup, you get $ 150
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: in lineups.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: And now....
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Lock in for kickoff. Everyone and everything is on prize picks.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what you on in this football season? I'll
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: tell you what I'm all in on. The Bears win.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Offense all right you've already heard their head coach say
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: he wants to score the most points in NFL history
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and they have the personnel to do it go over
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: check out Luther Burden wide receiver Luther Burden's receiving yards
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: for the season I pick more on his receiving yards
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm not even sweating it you can thank me
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: later He's going to be the guy on that Bears offense.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Trust me on that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: PrizePix is going crazy with the deals to start the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: football season, giving users a new promo every day during
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: stacked September. Make sure to sign up now for guaranteed
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: picks every Sunday, along with profit boosts and daily discounts
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: throughout the month.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Plus, the app is simple to use.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: You just pick two to six players, then pick more
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: or less on their projected stats, like pass yards or
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: rush yards and fantasy score it's the best way to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: get more locked in on game day that's super fun
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you can make all the picks you want across any
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: sport all in the same app download the app today
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: and use code birds to get 150 instantly in lineups
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: if you win your first five dollar lineup remember Download
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the app today. Use code BIRDS to get $ 150 instantly
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: in lineups if you win your.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: First $ 5 lineup.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Prize picks run your game. Fall is the season where
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: everyone gets busier. More calls, more customers, more chances for
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: something to slip through the cracks. And staying ahead means
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: having the right system, not just working harder. That's why
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: today's episode is brought to you by Quo, spelled Q-U-O,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the business phone system built so you never miss a call.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Quo is the number one rated business phone system on G2,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: trusted by over 90,000 businesses who rely on it to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: stay reachable and look professional every day.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Money is on the line. Always say hello with Quo.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Try Quo for free, plus get 20% off your first
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: six months when you go to Quo.com slash birds.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: That's Q-U-O dot com slash birds.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: So they've spent, again, a lot of draft capital, a
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: lot of cash and free agency. The talent level is
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: way better. But we know from working with Greg for
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: many years, there's all these matchups you can take advantage of. Right.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: And this cornerback group, and I know Greg likes Nick Cross.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: That's fine. But you look at this older group of cornerbacks.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: like way older. It's funny because Adam Peters, the GM,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: said they do not want to be the oldest team
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: in the NFL again. But with Trey Amos out, this
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: is what you have. Now, but the front seven, though,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: is very formidable because last year they had so many injuries.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: A lot of guys who are older. They couldn't compete.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, Jacob Martin, who they brought out of mothballs,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: remember him eight or nine years ago, he was starting
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: because they ran out of players. But that's not the
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: problem now.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: And they're also counting, and again, until we play the
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: regular season games, we don't know, but they're counting on
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Sonny Stiles to be an impact player in whatever way,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: whatever that means for them. And, you know, he's going
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: to play. I mean, from day one, it's not as
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: if he's not going to play. And by the way,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Owe did have a really strong second half of last season.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: the athletic traits started to translate into production. Because as
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Jeff knows, you know, the guy's a freakish athlete. He
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: just didn't have production the way we, you know, he
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: didn't have sacks. But they started to translate a bit
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: in the second half of last season. And if he
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: can pick up, he truly does have the size, the length,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: the explosiveness to be a bigger time NFL edge rusher.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Jeff, one thing on Durante Jones here, because he's a
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: new play caller. I'll never forget with Brian Flores. Was
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: it a Monday night game against the Eagles three or
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: four years ago when he, he had so many guys
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: in coverage. They had the lightest box you've ever seen.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: And the Eagles ran all over them. Yes. It's the
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: unpredictability of Brian Flores. Now, because Durante Jones has not
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: called a game before. We don't know how much of
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: the craziness of what Flores is like the mad scientist.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: You just simply don't. It's really cool. But you, You know, okay,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: he runs a 34 front. Greg talked about zone coverage
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: in the back, blitzes a lot. But the way– the
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: disguises and the unorthodox way he does it, I'm fascinated
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: to see how Durante Jones looks at it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with both Mannion and Durante Jones, you
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: have that like– you go back to the discussion we
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: used to have when the Eagles would hire Jonathan Gannon
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: or Sean Desai. You're getting– the Fangio recipe, but you're
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: not getting Fangio. And obviously you saw the difference when
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you got Fangio. So with Sean McVay, I'm sorry, with
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Sean Mannion, are you getting McVay slash McFleur with Durante Jones?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Are you getting Brian Flores like that?
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Is that the next guy?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Or are you just getting a knockoff version that just
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the mad sign?
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what you're not going to know because,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: you know, when I talk to people about, you know,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: different coaches, like for instance, when I talk to people
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: about Vic Fangio, the thing that stands out is not
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: that he has a scheme that, gee, no one else
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: can possibly do. You know, of course they can do it,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: but it's the way he works through a game and
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: understands what's going on.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Through the game.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about like one play call, like, oh,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: that's a great call. I'm talking about understanding how a
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: game flows, what the offense is then trying to do
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: tactically and conceptually and responding to it. You know, that's
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: what you don't know about play callers who've never really
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: done it. How do they work through a game? You know, not, oh,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: that's a great call. A lot of guys can make
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: a great call. You know, just like in sports, a
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: lot of guys can have one great year and then
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you never hear about him again. You know, so I'm
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: not talking about one call. You know, I'm talking about,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you know, having an understanding of working through a game
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: because you're going in with a plan.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Now, that plan may be perfect or maybe after two series,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: the defense makes mistakes. and, and, and defenses don't make
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: major adjustments, but maybe they make a little bit of
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: an adjustment and you have to respond to it. Not
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: with one play, but with, okay, they're doing this. So,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: you know what, we want to add this motion to,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: you know, because that's going to really help us define
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: what they're doing, you know, little, you know, stuff that the,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that the fans won't necessarily notice, you know, but that's,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of thing that I think dictates why
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: guys are good and bad.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Not, Oh, wow.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: That's a great play call, you know, You can always
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: do that with any coach, pick out a great play call.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: You know, it's cool, Jeff, about what Greg's saying. We'll
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: take it a step further is that with Sean Mannion, okay.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: You and I went to OTAs training camp and we're like, we're,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: there's nobody know how much Shanahan McVay, like how much
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: more of one scheme, whatever belief that he's going to run.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: But I saw, and I thought of Greg, when I
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: saw it, I saw some burst motion. Cause that, I'd
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: never heard of it until Greg mentioned it. Cause we'd
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: see it. We didn't know the name of it. Right.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: And I go, wow.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: First motion.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: That's new here. Yep. And, and Greg, you'll like this.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Cause this is where McVay comes. It's not like Shannon
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: doesn't do it, but I just always thought of McVay
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: when I go to training, their training camp in LA
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: is reducing the receiver because he knew that this guy
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: needs help. There was a lot of that in their
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: off season program. So much. So if you, We'll see. Now, again,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: we never know until the games start what exactly it's
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: going to look like, but I like that when it
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: comes to the Shanahan-McVay stuff. By the way, our good
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: buddy A.J. Brown is on IR. He's going to miss
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: the next four games. Yeah, it's too bad. That's rough
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: because Romeo Donald.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have a great game.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: But anyway.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: So your point, though, your point is really it helps
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: us transition to the other side because not only do
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Mannion and Durante-Jones face the same against each other, face
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: that issue of, well, this is the first time I'm
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: really doing it in a meaningful game.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Well, so does David Blau, the new coordinator for the Commanders.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately for him, that's got to come against Vic Fangio,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: which is no picnic.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: That's quite a welcome to the NFL moment.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I want you to tell us, Greg, because David Blau,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: it's almost like a mirror image situation here. Like Mannion,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: David Blau was a journeyman backup quarterback in the NFL,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: played less time, played for a really brilliant offensive line
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: in Ben Johnson when he was in Detroit, has only
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: been a coach for two years, and now, bam, the
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: keys to the offense are in his hands. So he's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: expected to bring this variation of a Ben Johnson offense.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: How would you say that might– Well, he was also
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: in Minnesota too with Kevin O'Connell.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: With Kevin O'Connell, right, right.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: How would you say that might compare or contrast to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: what we've talked about with Sean Mannion?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Cause I think there are a lot of similarities to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: what they're going to do.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Well, now you get into the same question. We have
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: no idea how he calls a game. You know, we
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: also have no idea, you know, somebody does the three
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: of us don't, I certainly don't, you know, is he
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: going to take more of what he does from Ben Johnson?
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Is he going to take more of what he does
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: from Kevin O'Connell? Is there a way to mix and
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: match that effectively? Cause they are a little different. You know,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: these are things we do not, or I certainly don't know. And, and,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I bet Vic Fangio has a pretty good idea just
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: based on coaches know coaches pretty well, and they talk
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: to other coaches because it's a fraternity. These guys talk
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: to each other all the time. So I don't know
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: the answer to that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess what I was asking is what does
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson do that is sort of uniquely Ben Johnson
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that maybe we might see?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Well, here's something that Ben Johnson does that probably not
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: a lot of people know. He actually puts together the
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: run game every week. He is more interested in the
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: run game than the pass game as far as the
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: game planning element. And their run game, a lot of
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: people are unaware. The Bears had the third best run
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: game in the NFL last year. Now, granted, Caleb Williams
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: did have some yards, but he's not.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Like Lamar Jackson.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: But their run game, and Eagles fans saw it, he
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: is phenomenal in the run game with his use of motion,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: how he creates angles and leverage. He happens to have
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: two really outstanding players. run blockers on the right side
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: of his O-line, which is what they focused on through
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: the second half of the year, running behind Darnell Wright
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: and Jackson at right guard. But he puts together the
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: run game. So the question is, how will Blau see
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: the run game? Because if you can put together a
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: really good run game, you know, conceptually, you don't necessarily
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: need an unbelievable back. And by the way, DeAndre Swift
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: just signed a three-year extension. So, I mean, you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: no one is going to say DeAndre Swift is one
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: of the five best backs in the league. But, you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: he did gain 1,000 yards and rush 4.9. He and
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Mnangae combined for almost 1,800 yards. So, you know, because
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: people are going to look at the running– the point
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to make is people are going to look
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: at the running backs for the commanders and say, well,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: they're not very good. They don't have anybody really good.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if Krosky Merritt is number one,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Rashad White's number one. I always really like Katron Allen
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: for what he is. I think that kind of back
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: is– works in the NFL. Now, do I think that
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: means he's a 250-carry guy? I don't know the answer
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: to that, but he gets tough, hard yards, and there's
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: always a place for that in the NFL. So I
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: don't know who's going to be the guy that gets
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: the majority of the carries, but is he going to
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: put together a run game? Who's the O-line coach, Adam?
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Do you know? Yeah, it is Darnell Stapleton. You might
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: remember as a journeyman offensive lineman for the Steelers. Yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: I remember the name. Yeah, yeah. He's a good young coach.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Here's what I know. there was a very strong belief
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: if the commanders did not promote him, allow that he
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: would have gone with Ben Johnson and gone back to
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: go into Chicago because, um, Declan Doyle left to be
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: the OC of the Ravens. So they promoted him and
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: in his third year coaching, he's going to call plays. Now,
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: from what I also understand, they're going to be more
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: run based, more, more of a run philosophy. And by
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: the way, they run really well last season, despite having
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: great backs. I think they were a top 10 rushing team.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: If not, I don't know. So, uh, Yeah. They feel
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: pretty good about it. So Krosky merit, they expect to
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: be the primary first and second down back. Doesn't mean
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: I'll have every first and second down. You're gonna see
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Rashad white and pass protection. You're going to see him
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: in goal line. I know he doesn't have any juice,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: but he's a good back. He's a good receiver. Yeah.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: He's excellent. Dumped the ball down to him. Your drone
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: forward got hurt. So, yeah, he's not. And you've got
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Katron Allen. Now, one thing to understand, Rashad White's on
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: a one-year deal. And Katron Allen is, I know they
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: really liked Allen because he's got really good size. He
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: kind of fits what they want. They might want to
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: have some sort of physical run game because he's a
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: big dude. And Krosky Merritt's more of a change-up, but
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: he's their lead back because he's explosive.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: I look at this more of a committee approach. But
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Greg and Jeff, as we look at this offense, this
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: is where it's fascinating because it's Terry McLaurin. He's their guy.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: We all know that. He's really good. But after that, Diggs.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Well, Stephon Diggs is a really good veteran receiver who
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: really helps young quarterbacks.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: That's why they brought him in.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: He knows how to work in zones. He knows how
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: to find soft spots. Is he explosive at this point?
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: No. But, you know, he's– He's going to help.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and by the way, he did
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: something last year that's rarely ever done. He caught 89%
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: of his targets. That's a ridiculously high number.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Right. Yeah. He loved him with Drake Mayer. He just
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: had a bad contract. They wanted to move on. They
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: wanted to. Yeah.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, and look how we, look how we work
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: with Josh Allen is Josh Allen was becoming Josh Allen.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: You know, he's always been that guy. I mean, look
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: what he did in Houston. I mean, he's, he's, you know, Look,
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: we're not talking about personality. I don't know Stephon Diggs, okay?
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I don't care about that. But the fact is, as
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: a player, he's really helpful to young quarterbacks.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: He's a possession receiver now, totally. But one thing I
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: want to add. The one thing that I noticed when
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: I was at their training camp, they took shot plays
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: to Traylon Burks. This is when the Dolphins were there.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not a great– Dolphins didn't fare very
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: well in that practice. But Traylon Burks was getting shot plays.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: De'Ami Brown is back. Didn't work in one year 10
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: million with Jacksonville, but he's back. So they have some
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: guys who could run, and Tony Williams will eventually be
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: their slot receiver. They're very high on him, but there's
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: a pecking order. But I like Greg's point about having
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Diggs as that possession guy because you need that. Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Ticket Conquo, I know he could run, but he's not
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: a possession receiver. Right.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: No, and maybe Diggs is a guy, ideally, that can
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: help Daniels not leave the pocket. Maybe he'll feel like, hey,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: I've got a security blanket now. I've got a guy
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I can throw it to. You know, when it's third
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: and six, hey, if it's a seven-yard gain, you know what,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: that's a first down.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Greg, is it difficult?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: So their pass, they will have condensed formations, bunch formations
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: as well, just like we're expecting to see with the Eagles,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: reduced splits and things. Does that make it more difficult
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: for someone like Quinion Mitchell to travel, as Vic was
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: doing with him last year, putting him on a turn
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: to chlorine or the top receiver?
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: He predominantly played boundary corner, predominantly. Right. He became their
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: boundary corner.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: And I think that they'll probably, again, I don't know
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: if they'll keep doing that because now they have Reed Wolin,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: who is incredibly gifted. I mean, if he plays to
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: the level of his traits, I mean, he's a pretty
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: good player. So I don't know what they'll do. But
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Mitchell became the boundary corner. I don't know if they'll
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: use him as a matchup corner.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe they will. They did it at times, obviously, last year. Yeah,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: earlier in the year they did. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: That's a great question, you know, because Wolin is obviously,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: you know, pretty darn good.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I'm looking forward to seeing if they if
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: they isolate McLaurin, if Blouse will get him on wool
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: and how he holds up and how the discipline is.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: That's been his issue, man, is his hand discipline and
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: so forth. Yeah.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I have a good friend who is a scout in
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: the league and he was tasked this offseason as teams
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: do these kinds of things with evaluating every starting cornerback
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: in the league. And he came away, he told me
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: he thought Quinion Mitchell was his number one corner.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Wow. Wait, did he study all 32 teams' corners? All
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: 32 teams, every starting corner. 64 of them, and he
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: said number one. Wow.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I mean, there's some good ones out there.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Well, let's say he's two or three.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: The point is, he's great. He's pretty good.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is great.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Wait, is this guy in pro personnel or college scout?
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Mostly pro. Pro. Okay, interesting.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Awesome stuff.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Wow. You would think, to put a bow on this
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: offense versus defense conversation, first of all, this Eagles defense looks.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Very loaded, very experienced.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: They've added Rick Willen. Yes, they'll be missing Jonathan Grenard. But, Greg,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: you would think, given the offensive line issues that the
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: commanders already have without Tunsell, that they have to feel
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: that their only chance to really move the chains and
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: win this game is to run the ball effectively, which
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: we did see teams at times be able to do
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: against the Eagles last year.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that– look, every team wants explosive plays,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: but they're hard to get against the Eagles.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I think that they're going to have to feel like
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: they have to be able to control somewhere along the
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: line the way the game is played, the pace and tempo.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: They're not going to win this game, in my view, 38-35.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: That's not going to happen.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: You know, so– Yeah, so can, you know, barring anything
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: totally unforeseen like, you know, special teams touchdowns or ridiculous turnovers,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: if the game is normal, you know, and again, I
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: guess we're going to pick the games, you know, like
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: we always do. But I would see this game more
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: as like a 2017, unless the Eagles offense is great,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: you know. So they're going to have to feel that
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: they can control to some degree the pace and tempo
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: of the game. And you don't do that throwing the ball.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: You do that running the ball. But, you know, again,
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I had mentioned to Adam that I did a really
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: deep dive on the Eagles defense, you know, this offseason. And,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: you know, the way the Eagles played, I know they
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: played a lot of man coverage last year and they
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: played more cover one than probably people think with Fangio.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: But foundationally, they're still a quarters starting looking team. And
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: when you're a quarters team, you have one less gap
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: player in the run game. So the most important position
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: in a Vic Fangio scheme, and you're seeing this across
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: the league is defensive tackle. And the Eagles have acknowledged
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: that by what they paid Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you know, and, and, and Jomo is a pretty solid
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: player too. So, you know, it's, it's hard, it's going
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: to be hard to run against the Eagles. I know that,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: you know, there were moments last year, obviously Carter wasn't
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Carter for a lot of the season, even when he played,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: you know, he had injuries. Adam can speak to that
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: better than I, um, But D-tackle is where they put
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: their money. D-tackle and linebacker because linebacker is really important.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Fan Joe as well. So, you know, it's a really
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: important position. And the Eagles have, you know, they put
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: their money where clearly the Vic Fan Joe believes the
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: money should go.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Jeff, one thing on what Greg's talking about when we
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: talk about matchups in the Eagles D-line versus the Washington O-line. Remember,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: you got Brandon Coleman who was replaced by Tunsell, but
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: he's going to start. Chris Paul is, they believe, is
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: a strong run blocker, not great in pass pro. Nice story.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Does the seventh runner, okay. Alec Reddy's back, but not
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: an athlete, power player. He's okay. A lot of what
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: we just mentioned here really favors the Eagles, and Greg Broderick,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: their D-line is. All right.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: You're leading us to how we finish this show, Adam.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: You're leading us into our prediction segment. So I'm going
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: to start with Greg because I know he put a
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: lot of time into it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Into this as always.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: I almost forgot until I was just talking about the,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: the score that we actually have to predict the games.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: You say that every week, you know, you've been looking
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: forward to this. What do you got?
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I, again, week one, you'd never know, but I mean,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: the Eagles to me, I like the Eagles. I think,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: I think that the offense, and I don't know if
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: it's going to happen this week, but I really think that,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: you know, they're going to.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Move in the right direction.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I think Jalen's going to be good in this offense and,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: it's almost hard not to be good in this office
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: and no knock on Jalen, but I think the way
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: it's coached and the way it's taught and just the
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: way quarterbacks think about playing in the, you've never heard
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: a quarterback say this office.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: Oh gee, I hate this office. Right. You know, you
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: don't hear that with this style of office. Yeah.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: All these open receivers and layup routes.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm not saying they're going to put
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: up 40 this week, but I'm going to, I'm going
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: to pick the Eagles 27, 17.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Who's your player of the game? No, Oh, extra thought.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that part.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, Philly fans. Game day is stressful enough. Parking, traffic,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: long lines.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: We've all been there. But when it comes to your cannabis...
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Camden Apothecary makes it easy. This is the dispensary for
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: sports fans. Just minutes outside of Philly with plenty of
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: free parking. You'll be in and out fast.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: No hassle. No waiting.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: And they don't just care about convenience. Camden Apothecary is
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: all about the guest experience. Their staff makes sure you
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: feel taken care of every time you walk in. Plus,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: they carry only the best quality cannabis at the fairest price.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: So whether you're stocking up for the tailgate, the watch party,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: or celebrating a big win, you know you're getting the
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: good stuff without overpaying. They even show love to the
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: community with specials for fans, students, service members, and healthcare pros.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Camden Apothecary, top quality cannabis, great prices, and an experience
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: made for Philly fans 21 and up.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to pick Devonta Smith.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Okay. All right.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Devontae Smith, now the wide receiver number one for the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Adam, who wins and who's the star of the game?
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: I've got maybe a surprise. I've got the Commanders 13,
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Eagles 20. You know what? Now, we don't have to–
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: I think Barkley would do really well, but this is
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: the guy. I like the matchups. I feel strongly that
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Jay Luxon is going to have a huge game. Huge,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: huge game. He is our guy. I just remember when
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: we made sure Greg watched his tape at Houston Christian
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: and Greg gave us a lowdown on what it looked
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: like and This guy is so prime, Jeff. The history
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: of our show, I don't remember there's a player who's
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: more prime to have a breakout season because his second
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: half was great. Yeah. And he is ready. He's hungry.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: It's a contract year. He can be extended after the season. Yep.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: So let's get started right here with J. Alex Hunt.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: A little surprise. Just a quick point. Adam mentioned Barkley.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: One player that I've heard from everybody in the organization
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: that they love as far as blocking, and particularly if
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: you're going to run outside zone.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: Is that Tavian Wicks. Oh, really? That's good. I didn't
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: hear that.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Everybody talked about how physical and competitive and tough he is,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: and that in the context of this offense, that he's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: really an important player. By the way, I think he's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: a good receiver, too. But, I mean, just in terms
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: of what's demanded of wide receivers.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: Greg, he had an excellent training camp. I know there's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: been some knocks on him. Well, he's not a 4-4 guy. No,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: but you got to know what he is. But that's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: a great point that Greg made because, you know what?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Johnny Wilson being out again? Like, they don't have a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: lot of size at receiver, and he is the size.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, not a lot of teams work hard to
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: get their fifth receiver on the field, but the Packers
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: certainly did.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: They got Wicks on the field.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: By the way, his next to last year in college,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: when they actually had a really good offense and they
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: had a terrible offense his last year, he caught like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: 62 balls for over 1,000 yards. And if he had
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: done the same thing the next year, he probably would
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: have been a second-round pick. And obviously the whole offense
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: was awful at Virginia that year, and his numbers dropped precipitously.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: And because he doesn't have the quote-unquote measurables other than
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: his size, he drops to the fifth or whatever round.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: He was fifth or sixth, something like that. Yeah. But
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: he's not a bad receiver either, by the way.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Big year for him potentially coming up.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: All right, Jeff. It's on you.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam and I see it very, very similarly.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: We have the exact same score.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the one I had in my Philly
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: voice prediction, 20 to 13 Eagles.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I do think the offense won't be humming right away.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Take a little bit of time. The defense will be fine.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: And Morrow at Jomo against that interior offensive line of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: the commanders, I think we'll have a very disruptive game.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: Matchups. And I think Barkley, if I was just doing
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: offensive defense, I love Barkley in this game. I really do.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: I cannot wait. As Greg set that up with this,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: the zone scheme, By the way, Will Shipley, he's not
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: going to play a lot. He looked phenomenal in training
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: camp with the stretch zone. I can't wait to see.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: If we'll be talking about him.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Will Shipley is one of those guys that's going to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: play in the league for 12 years, and he may
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: never be a true starter, but he'll always be a
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: guy that someone thinks they want if he leaves the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Eagles because he's just a really good football player.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see, Adam, when you and I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: do the postgame show, Sunday night after the game, if
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about actually throwing the ball to.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: The running back. So the first time.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I heard the tight ends, I'll just take the running backs, man.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing that we've had. I mean, Dallas
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: got caught a lot of passes in his career. We've
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: talked a lot about the idea and the reality of
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: throwing to the running back that we've seen in training camp.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Simply could be a factor because say what you want
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: about Barkley straight line fast.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Barkley is stiff. He's not, For a receiver in the
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: past game to run, let's say, option routes and angle
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: routes and all that, that's not really his game. He
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: can get out on a wheel route and run by people.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Think back to when he ran by Singleton last year
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: for that, I think, 49 or 50-yard touchdown against Denver,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: which was a schemed play because they know Denver's linebackers
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: can't cover.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: But that's what he can do.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: But he's not like a McCaffrey or that kind of receiver.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Shipley's more like that. He can turn his hips and go.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: I remember Andrew and I saw him as a rookie,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: and we were comparing him to Kenny Gainwell. There was
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: the one area where Chip Lee was way better, way
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: more explosive. So there's a lot we're going to learn.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, this game we're going to learn a lot,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: and I look forward to it. All right.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Just two things before we get out of here to remember. One,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Eagles commanders never follows the script. So we just did
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: an hour's worth of an analysis, watched there be like
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: five turnovers, three fights. Too crazy, two fans run onto
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the field because that's what happens when the Eagles and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Commanders play. And number two, I would keep my eye
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: out for a trick play on the side of the
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Commanders because Ben Johnson loves trick plays. The Eagles got
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: burned by one the last time they were on the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: field against the 49ers.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: The other thing Ben Johnson loves, by the way, just
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: a very quick point, he loves attacking on short yardage situations,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: second and two, third and one.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: He's not just, oh, let's get a first down. Right.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: And I guarantee Vic Fangio and the staff know that.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: But still, you've got to defend it. Yes.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yes. And good luck to the commanders trying to get
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: a second and two against the Eagles defense.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Good stuff. We'll do it again.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And, of course, after this coming week, after week one,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: we will have Greg on with us for two shows
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: throughout the week inside the tape where we will do
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the Eagles offense in one show and the Eagles defense
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: in another show. next week as we recap everything that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: happens with the Eagles in week one. That's going to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: do it for the Inside the Birds pregame show for
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Mosher. Catch you all on the next one.