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Andrew Wingard & the Charged Up Jags · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's twenty six degrees in Jacksonville, it's four in London.
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  Speaker 2: Is one degree on the isle of sky Chili? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: What temperature is it in Chile?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is still Talk, the official Jacksonville, Jankus UK
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  Speaker 1: and Island podcast, presented by Gallagher.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jay Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: In new addition, he is Key Ramsuran. Big show today,
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  Speaker 1: always a big show, but big show today. Safety Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Winger joins the podcast. Our friend Jason Bell was of
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  Speaker 1: course coming up as per now this time last week, Key,
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  Speaker 1: I was I was in shock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was shocked. This week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in shock, but for a very very different reason. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thirty five six the Jags beat the LA Chargers. Key,
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  Speaker 1: extraordinary wind. Talk about a bounce back.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, Sus is which team do we recognize?
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  Speaker 3: Do we recognize the team that showed up against Houston
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  Speaker 3: or do we recognize the team that showed up against
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers, because those are two very different teams. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: week to week. I was thinking during that game, if
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  Speaker 3: you showed someone who didn't know American football those two
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  Speaker 3: games and said this is the same team, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think they'd believe you.
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  Speaker 2: I know which one I'm choosing to uh.
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  Speaker 3: One hyeah. That Charger's performance was unrecognizable compared to the
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  Speaker 3: previous week.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that what I really appreciated about
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  Speaker 1: this game was there was there was two ways it
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  Speaker 1: could have gone after that Texans defeat, which is you're
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  Speaker 1: stewing the disappointment you don't quite come back from it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, mentally maybe you're not there, or you can
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  Speaker 1: use it to spur you on. And I mean this
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  Speaker 1: was just that end that and a half. And what
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  Speaker 1: was really great as well is that you can say
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  Speaker 1: this is all about mentality, player mentality.
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  Speaker 2: And all of that.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously I do think that is a big thing
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  Speaker 1: with this game, but also what a great feeling it
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  Speaker 1: is to be like, well, Liam Cohen knew what he
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  Speaker 1: was doing.
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  Speaker 3: There, so for me, you've just nailed it. So I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking, well, what's the difference, because I'm just going
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  Speaker 3: to say it this time last year, I feel that
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars go into that Chargers game and we lose
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  Speaker 3: it again. This year, we bounce back, the team is
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  Speaker 3: unrecognizable from the previous week. What's the difference? The difference
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  Speaker 3: is Liam Cohen, what a difference he has made? To
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  Speaker 3: how those players went into that game on Sunday. He's
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  Speaker 3: changed the culture. He's changed the attitude. They gave everything
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  Speaker 3: that they had to give. Rather than going into that
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  Speaker 3: game feeling, oh, well, we lose to Houston, we're resigned
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  Speaker 3: to the fact that we're not very good. That was
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  Speaker 3: not the attitude that we saw on Sunday. The attitude was,
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  Speaker 3: we are going to give everything that we have because
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  Speaker 3: we've seen this season that they can perform, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what they chose to do. They chose to give everything
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  Speaker 3: in practice all week. You could see it and you
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  Speaker 3: could read about it, how much players were putting in
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  Speaker 3: that surely all comes from the head coach, don't you think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there is. Well, that is why
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  Speaker 1: that a head coach. I know it's gonna sound dumb.
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  Speaker 1: That's why a head coach is a head coach. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: because that's that's what they're there for. Because you can
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  Speaker 1: have the best coordinator in the world, but they need
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  Speaker 1: to step up and do different things. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: need to play the role of almost director in a film.
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  Speaker 1: They need to get the most out of all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly what I was thinking about. You can have an
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  Speaker 1: amazing crew. You can have an amazing cast, you can
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  Speaker 1: have amazing production designers, all of this thing, but none
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  Speaker 1: of it comes together without Steven Spielberg, Christopher No, none
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  Speaker 1: of it comes together without the director. You can have
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  Speaker 1: the best best boy in a world. Do you ever
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  Speaker 1: watched the credits and you see best Boy?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I've been the best boy?
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  Speaker 4: Anyway?
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  Speaker 2: What were your best at at being me?
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  Speaker 4: As?
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  Speaker 1: The only negative in this in this game I can
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  Speaker 1: think of is that Trevor Lawrence interception.
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  Speaker 3: But apart from that, hey, you know what we were.
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  Speaker 3: I can live with one bad throw like that. That's
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  Speaker 3: totally fine. One bad throat Traver the way he reacted
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  Speaker 3: to the bad throw fantastic because look what you went
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  Speaker 3: on to do.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that what it's a really great feeling,
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  Speaker 1: but a really weird feeling is you know that you've
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  Speaker 1: your team has done alright, and that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: win the game. When the opposition put their backup quarterback in, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know in the fourth quarter. In fact, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, well, if you're going to put your backup
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in, we'll put our back up quarterback in as well.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty five six victory against a good LA Charges team.
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  Speaker 1: Here's something that was you know, amazing as well. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, the pass rush hasn't been exactly how they'd
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  Speaker 1: have hoped it to be throughout this season, but they
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  Speaker 1: really you know, went after justin her but they really
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  Speaker 1: did a good job.
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  Speaker 2: In this game. And of course there was a record
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  Speaker 2: key as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we love to see it. I'm just going to say,
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  Speaker 3: I know Jason's not here, but let's talk about last
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  Speaker 3: week's predictions and who said that. Josh was. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it was always going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Was not about to say, you know what a completely
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  Speaker 2: out of the blue.
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  Speaker 3: No one expected, no, dude. It's it's fantastic to see Josh.
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  Speaker 3: Josh deserves it, man Like it hasn't been his best
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  Speaker 3: couple of seasons, but that man and the work and
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  Speaker 3: the hours that he has put in to this team.
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  Speaker 3: You love to see it. Also, he's one of the
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  Speaker 3: nicest people you'll ever see playing American football, so I
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  Speaker 3: love it for him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations to Josh. Heines Allen.
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  Speaker 3: That the whole defensive line, the whole offensive line, like
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  Speaker 3: that is a completely different performance to that game was
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  Speaker 3: won in the trenches. We often say like, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: Tony Basadi says it all the time, games are won
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  Speaker 3: and lost in the trenches, and that's where it happened.
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  Speaker 3: They won that game in the trenches on Sunday. It
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  Speaker 3: was so you would say that they were so physical. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: of course it would, but it was so physical, man like,
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  Speaker 3: they were so dominant. It was excellent.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, this wasn't a massive passing game really either.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great rushing performance.
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  Speaker 3: They really took opportunity to Jason said early on in
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  Speaker 3: the season, didn't he how important the running game would be?
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  Speaker 3: And what it was like? Almost two hundred yards on
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  Speaker 3: the ground, wasn't it on Sunday?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety two yards?
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  Speaker 1: And I mean two touchdowns for travistyt and Junior bachhef
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  Speaker 1: two and getting one as well, and Tremor Lawrence was yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: exactly getting one. So it's four touchdowns on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to see Jacobe Meyers get into the game a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more as well, six targets, five receptions.
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  Speaker 3: As well, coming up with touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, lovely, yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So overall I think we can say we're happy with
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  Speaker 1: that game. Of course, when Jason comes in, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more about it, and we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: the upcoming game against the Cardinals as well. Jake, can
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  Speaker 1: I just say one thing we've talked about it almost
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  Speaker 1: every week, which is penalties. Yes, I meant to say sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Yes to carry out?
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  Speaker 3: How good? One penalty five yards? Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say that I was watching the game and it
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  Speaker 1: got to about halftime. I thought, what was different? Yes
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  Speaker 1: about this game? Yes, it feels and then I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is cleaner. Yeah, this is just cleaner.
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  Speaker 3: Cleaner is such a good word for it, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Six and four still hold the number seven spot in
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  Speaker 1: the AFC, of course, behind the Indianapolis Cults in the
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  Speaker 1: AFC South, but yet to play the Colts. So it's
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  Speaker 1: all to play for, really in the division, all to
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  Speaker 1: play for in the division. We do have to mention
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  Speaker 1: as well, because it is really annoying when you record
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  Speaker 1: a podcast from a completely selfish point of view, It's
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: really annoying when you record a podcast and then about
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  Speaker 1: three hours later some big news comes out and you're.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Okay, too late to rerecord. That's annoying.
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  Speaker 1: Because now Travis Hunter is out for this season of course,
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  Speaker 1: we know he went on ir with a non contact
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  Speaker 1: injury in training. He's now out for this season, of course,
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  Speaker 1: disappointing for his rookie campaign. Disappointing not to get him
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  Speaker 1: out on the field. Does look like though, key shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be any issue with him getting back with plenty of
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  Speaker 1: time before next season, which is the most important thing.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: You always want to hear the word successful before the
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  Speaker 3: word surgery, and that's what we heard. So, yes, disappointing
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  Speaker 3: that he's out, but more importantly than anything, he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be fine and he'll be back, I'm sure more
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  Speaker 3: than his best.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we look forward to that and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: actually it will be hopefully we'll be getting back some
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  Speaker 1: other receivers over the next you know, a few weeks
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  Speaker 1: as well. Obviously Brian Thomas Junior didn't play the last game.
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  Speaker 2: Played a lot.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of players out and to perform like
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  Speaker 3: we did on Sunday with that amount of players out,
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  Speaker 3: actually the depth is there so that I think that
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  Speaker 3: that next man up mentality is working. It's it's the
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  Speaker 3: consistency and once we nail the consistency week to week,
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  Speaker 3: this team can contend.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Playoffs insight, Baby, here we go on books insite. All right,
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  Speaker 3: let's quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Did you your third quarter?
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  Speaker 1: I'm knowing you you would have bought it in about
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  Speaker 1: the second quarter of the first game of the season.
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  Speaker 3: To be fair, Jay, the truth is when it was
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  Speaker 3: backup quarterback, because after what happened last week. If you remember,
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  Speaker 3: I went to sleep at the end of the third
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  Speaker 3: quarter last week thinking everything's fine, and then I woke up.
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  Speaker 3: I watched the fourth quarter the next morning, so when
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  Speaker 3: the backup quarterbacks went in, I didn't feel okay. I
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  Speaker 3: still felt like, oh my goodness, this could go either way.
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  Speaker 2: Just as a side note, I was looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Not that even I was thinking about I'm thinking about
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  Speaker 1: going or whatever, but I was looking at how much
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: tickets were to some Jags games, and I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at Jackson Belle. No, this one was actually I was
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: looking in Tennessee because obviously Tennessee haven't got the best
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  Speaker 1: record or whatever. There are Tennessee fans at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose if you do fancy trip out to see
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  Speaker 1: the Jags, go to Nashville seven quid.
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  Speaker 2: Seven quid a ticket.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, how many points have you got that you could
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  Speaker 3: get a super cheap flight and you're spending.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Do you know what, There's there's something in that.
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  Speaker 1: There's something in that I can I can have a look.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go over to Jason Bell, NFL pundit,
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  Speaker 1: Jason Bell, let's talk all things. The winner, getst the
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  Speaker 1: change of course, and we'll look forward to the next
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  Speaker 1: game against Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: We have NFL pundit Jason Bell with us as always,
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  Speaker 3: fresh off of NFL Espanya. Jason, how was it? How
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: do you say kick the field goal in Spanish?
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  Speaker 4: You know that's a level too high for my education.
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  Speaker 4: I had a great time. It was amazing. Toward the city,
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  Speaker 4: amazing architecture, great museums, great people. It was just a
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: good time. Had some great food. And then the game.
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: I mean that stadium, it was unbelievable.
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: Looked amazing.
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, walking in there and looking up you're like, this
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: is this is epic And especially I love when they're
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: just smack dab in the middle of the city like that.
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  Speaker 4: So it was special. This is what the NFL is
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  Speaker 4: all about. Wherever you go around the world to play,
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: it's a week long events and it's about the fans
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  Speaker 4: and they didn't disappoint. I had a good time. I
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  Speaker 4: can't wait to go back.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to rank it for NFL international venues
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  Speaker 1: that you've been to? No?
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  Speaker 4: Man, But I like how you set me up. I mean,
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean everybody you know you want you
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: want to get yourself in trouble start ranking stuff. I'm
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  Speaker 4: always gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what you hated about it that Jason.
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  Speaker 4: I'll always tell you Ireland and the UK first, because
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  Speaker 4: you know that that that's how I get down. But No,
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  Speaker 4: it was cool, man, it was. It was. It was great.
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  Speaker 4: I you know, people talked about that stadium. They were like,
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: wait till you get in there and check it out,
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  Speaker 4: and they did not disappointment. It was it was cool.
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  Speaker 4: I love the city too, I'll be honest. So it
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  Speaker 4: was one of my top kind of visits and trips
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  Speaker 4: and games because it was it was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: And you get to combine that with coming home. So
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  Speaker 1: now you've got a flight back on Sunday, didn't you.
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  Speaker 1: So I assume that maybe you got off the plane
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  Speaker 1: and you saw that the Jacks had that victory against
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers as well. Let's get into it. Let's say
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about Arizona. That your upcoming game in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But first let's talk about that Chargers game. Where was
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  Speaker 1: the game won?
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  Speaker 4: Remember last week we talked about what the coach had
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  Speaker 4: to do, how he had to go back in there,
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  Speaker 4: motivate these guys, get them ready to go, and that's
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  Speaker 4: exactly what they did. They had their identity. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the run game was spectacular and it was shared right.
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  Speaker 4: You had two to you had two I always mess
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  Speaker 4: up his name man, Basil Twoton obviously in Trevor ETN.
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  Speaker 4: And I loved how diverse the run game was. That
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  Speaker 4: was the key. I loved the coaching on both sides
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  Speaker 4: of the ball, and I feel like cutting back on
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  Speaker 4: the penalties. This is what we talked about, and that
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  Speaker 4: was key man. That's where the game was won. The basics,
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  Speaker 4: the preparation, the detail, and the physicality.
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  Speaker 2: Which Jacks player, are you going to give the game ball?
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  Speaker 4: I mean Josh heines Allen, then he set a record.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you start setting records, you get the game ball, bro.
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  Speaker 4: Plus they harassed, I mean they beat the heck out
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  Speaker 4: of that offensive line of the Chargers, which was their weakness.
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  Speaker 4: They went out there and dominated that and that's the key.
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  Speaker 4: But you got to get to Josh eins hollen Man
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  Speaker 4: coming off the edge.
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  Speaker 2: What was the key moment or the turning point that
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  Speaker 2: we may have missed?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was thinking of about this and I
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  Speaker 4: kind of wanted to flip it towards a key person,
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  Speaker 4: and that's Jakobe Myers.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go Trevor.
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  Speaker 4: Lawrence wants to throw the ball in between the numbers
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  Speaker 4: with trust. He really does, and he's not scared to.
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  Speaker 4: He needed a guy that was gonna go there and
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  Speaker 4: get it done, and I feel like they might have
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  Speaker 4: found that with the Kobe Myers. So I like his
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  Speaker 4: addition to the team and what he's done, especially if
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna run the ball, those linebackers are gonna step
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  Speaker 4: up over the middle. You can throw in those voided zones.
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  Speaker 4: You need somebody with some courage to go make it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what about what needs to improve?
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  Speaker 4: So I think they're gonna have to continue to be consistent. Right,
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  Speaker 4: we got a bump, This worked out, Can they do
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  Speaker 4: it again next week? I still want to see the
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  Speaker 4: passing game get a little bit of rhythm, especially earlier
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  Speaker 4: in the game, and always they can always continue to
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  Speaker 4: improve in the red zone. So I think that that'll
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  Speaker 4: be things they'll work on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's move on to this week, and then how
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  Speaker 1: do the Jags beat the Cardinals and get to seven
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  Speaker 1: and four?
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  Speaker 4: Stop the run, man to make Jacoby, I mean, make yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett throw the ball, you know, I mean it
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  Speaker 4: was record setting last week and they still lost. So
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  Speaker 4: stop the run on defense, that'll be the key, making
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  Speaker 4: one dimensional and then get after Jacoby. And if you
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  Speaker 4: do that, keep the penalties down. So pressure and keep
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  Speaker 4: the penalties down. I think you can walk away with
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  Speaker 4: a win.
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  Speaker 1: But let's talk more about about that actually that game
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona, and let's just touch upon what you just
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  Speaker 1: said there because you know, me and Keith spoke about
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier. But one of the big,
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  Speaker 1: the big things that the Jags have had to improve
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  Speaker 1: on throughout this whole season, and you saw it in
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  Speaker 1: that last game is penalties. How key is that moving
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  Speaker 1: forward into this game against Arizona?
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  Speaker 6: Just keeping that consistency, it's everything because it's too hard
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  Speaker 6: to win in this league. It's very easy to beat yourself,
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  Speaker 6: and you do that with penalties. Actually, pre snap, post
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  Speaker 6: snap is usually technique. You know you'll start to work
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  Speaker 6: on those, but pre snap, these are all usually mental lapses.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta control that. And that discipline also allows you
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  Speaker 4: to be consistent through the game because think about it,
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  Speaker 4: if you're conditioned, if you're well prepared, you can play
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  Speaker 4: discipline football, and you have to lean on that in
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  Speaker 4: the later rounds, in the third and fourth quarter when
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: people start to get worreed down. So that's the key man.
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  Speaker 4: I think what we've seen is they went back to
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  Speaker 4: the lab and said, let's focus on ourselfs, let's work
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  Speaker 4: on our detail, let's encourage our players. And the coaches
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  Speaker 4: did that. Liam Cohen, I mean, he had beat up
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: the Chargers before running the ball when he was at
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. So he went in there and said, I
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: got y'all, just trust me and we can do this.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Same thing has to happen this week. They found a
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: way to fix things. And when you find a way
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: to fix things, especially with the penalties, it says one
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: thing about your coaching staff that their strategy the players
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: will follow and go out there and execute.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Jason, I'm really glad you've brought up Liam Cohen and
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff. There was one thing I wanted to
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: talk to you about, which is the play calling that
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: we saw on Sunday night against the Chargers that it
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: felt really creative.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: It felt like.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: For me, it was like the best play calling that
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I'd seen from the Jaguars this season. But there was
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: one particular play that I wanted to talk to you about,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: which was quite early on in the game. I think
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: it was the Jags first drive. Actually there's a fourth
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: and three and they decide to go for it. I'm wondering, like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: what's what's the thinking behind that? Because it's it's from
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: the forty one, it's fourth and three. Why are we
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: going for that rather than just planting there?
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Mentality and trust? I mean, right, you're coming off of
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: a week where you really have to instill confidence in
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: your team and you've told them all week you're confident. Hey,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you we got this. If we just clean
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: this up, if we work on this, we we we. Now,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: you get in a game and you don't make it
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: about we. You know you got to. You can talk
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: all that talk, but what's gonna happen in the battle. See,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: those are key moments, and that's in the huddle. They're
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: saying it. Okay, he told us this man, you know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: coach said, this is it man, he trusts us. Let's
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: go do this, Let's make it happen. You rally behind
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: each other, and then when you make that play and
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: you get that confidence, well there you go. It sets
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: you up for success as you continue on your journey.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I think mentality is such a I know it's like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: a broad thing, but at the same time, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: when you look at consistent winners in the NFL, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like Super Bowls here or contenders here,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: there's that one thing that they always have in common,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you know. I think the Detroit Lions are a good example.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the most consistent teams over the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: last few years.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: What do they have?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Well, they have a winning mentality. It's been it's been clear,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you know with that. And I think that if the
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Jags are able to build on this and to have
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: make sure they got that winning mentality in the building.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't already, but to ensure ensure
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: build on it, then that is a real big step
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: in becoming a consistent team, is it, Jason?
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And the mentality comes through situations, right, you have
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: to be in a situation where you can formulate this
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: opinion about yourself and who you are as a team.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: We were faced with this challenge. We overcame it. This
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: is our identity, this is our mentality. And a head
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: coach and a play caller is supposed to understand when
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: those circumstances happen and how you have to then show
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: your team and remind your team by the decisions you make.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: And now as you grow as a team, you when
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: you're in those situations in a game, you don't tense up.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: You've been there before. Everybody's come, everybody's cool. It's like, yeah,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: we've done this, we're ready for this, let's go. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: you only get that with experience in the moment.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Okay, let's move on to the predictions. The mini
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence figure eean is up for grabs. No one
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: predicted that, but we did all go through a Jags win.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So is Jason eight. J seven Key. You'll be glad
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to know that you get the bonus point for the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: closest score line, even if it was wildly inaccurate. You
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: said thirty five to thirty.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And Josh Heines Allen to break the record, which we
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: didn't ask for and it was kind of obvious it
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: was going to happen. But still, you've got five points.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: B the bonus point is yours. You are back in
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the game. Kind of this week the Arizona Cardinals, J.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Bell, let's go with your prediction.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Twenty eight fourteen twenty boom wow, lovely whoa two scores?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Now why are you going?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Why are you going to? You know so so cavaliers
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: so confident.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I feel like they just this is a turner point,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: you know, and we need to see this to understand
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: that we're not on this roller coaster. We got to
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: get off this roller coaster, man, Like, this is the conversation, man,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: who are we? Are we going to play down to
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: our competition? Are we bouncing back because everybody's against us?
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Can we just go out and make it happen? And
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: be a bully? Be a bully every day? You know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I don't pick you don't pick your day to be
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: a bully. Be a bully every day. I do not
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: condone this, by the way, there's no bully. We do
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: not condone bullying. Just to cl.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Like it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: It was just a Jason's like a pharmaceutical in the
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: States may also course.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I don't Jay Bell had had a phone call being like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you just need to make sure that you don't get
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: yourself into legal troubles again again.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: You do it, don't you? Don't you do it? Don't you?
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: This is all just football talk for fun in between.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: The lines, but you do have a point in there,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: just just to touch on that though quickly. And we
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: do hear about the NFL a lot, but it is
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: really true, is that the best teams they they might
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just about be able to be other really good teams,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: but they can destroy teams that they're are not as
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: good as them. And the Arizona Ardinals this is a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: definite example of a team that they should be able
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to beat.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Key based on the fact that it's unpredictable to know
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: which version of the Jags is going to show up.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I think we lose sixty five three.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm joking.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I'm joking, of course.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Points I think I really like Jason's twenty eight to fourteen.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I think that's really good. I'm going to go with
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: to make it different, I'm going to go with another blowout.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Let's go thirty two, three.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, why not?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I don't care about winning the prediction game, about being wild,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: stupid and getting one right one week.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you a very quick story that I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: may have told you before, but a while ago, I
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: was working in this at this radio station and there
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: was one person there who was like, right, I'm doing
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a marathon. If you if people like you know, guess
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: my marathon time, then you get a prize. Okay, So
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: what I did is I waited until last and I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: just put the slowest time because.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: You don't know what's going to happen in a marathon,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: do you.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I won, So this is a good example where
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you two have gone. So like Nat Jacks have got
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: there is all I need to do to get closest
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: is just have a tighter game.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So what I'm going to go with twenty eight twenty five?
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know they could be up two scores
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: and then on the fourth quarter they make it even
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: you know, it kind of kind of comes back.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: So yeah, fourth quarters this season, I'm going to.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Be honest, Okay, I will see how we get on
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: j Bell, What's what's going on this week for you?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Have you got anything fun? And anything or you know, chilling.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: After all the international games are done.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Now I'm head of to Chicago. Man, I go to Chicago.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: We're going to do the game out there, and then
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I am going to go from Chicago to Dallas for
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the Thanksgiving game. So I'm on the road.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Fellas, no biggie, no biggie.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Have a Thanksgiving in the States, man, it's.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Been a long time, you know, It'll be good. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: usually celebrated out here a couple of my friends from
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: the from the US. We have a cool little vibe.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: But I'm going to be in Dallas, so I see
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: my agent and one of my teammates who I'm really
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: good friends with that lives out there. It'll be cool
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: to be like being with family. Be a good, good
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: good time. Yeah, be cool. All right?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Just before you go, Jason, can we speaking to Andrew
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Winger the safety of course for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Shortly
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: two questions as a form of safety yourself, what should
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I ask him?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon?
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: First of all, I like how he came up through
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the ranks a lot of special teams before he became
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: a starter, So ask him about his ability to really
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: communicate out there and keep everybody on the same page.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, one thing about being a great special teamers
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: is how you relate to everybody on the team. You know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter what side of the ball you play on,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: because everybody's out there together. And I think he does
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: a really good job verbally keeping everybody on the same page.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: And just talk about those the skills he have with
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: that that he has with that, because that is underappreciated
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: at that position, you know, being able to just direct traffic.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And the other thing I wanted to ask is what
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: can I drop in to make myself seem like really
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: knowledgeable about the safety position.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Really knowledgeable at the safety per But.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You know to the point where you ask a question
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and the person that you're interviewing is like, Wow, this guy,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: this guy knows his stuff.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, ask him about disguising. Ask him what's his what's
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: his go to disguise, Like whether he's making it look
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: like cover two, moving down, moving up, like as he
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: goes into that, you can talk about him understanding the timing.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: It takes one great safety told me this, he said,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: you know what works for me. I know how long
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: it's going to take me to get in the right place.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: You know. So that's high level, bro. You might you
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: might want to chill out on that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Do you know what? Do you know what it's going
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: to feel like?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Though, Jason is you know sometimes like when you were abroad,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: let's say in France, and then you build yourself up
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to ask a question in French, and then you ask
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it and then they reply, and then you realize that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you have no idea what they just said, so you
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: can reply.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I got another one's easy.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite cheese?
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Talk about talk about trusting the quarterback's eyes, like or
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: who fools him the most? You know that kind of
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: that's to get into that some guys. Some guys will
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: tell you exactly where they're going. Like you're like, oh
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: he looks or whatever he's doing, and other ones you'd
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: be like, oh man, they just they tricked me.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Have you had that situation where you've had to where
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you've played then and when you've been almost second guessing yourself.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gone both ways. Man. I remember playing against
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Denver and I saw this. I was that corner, saw
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: it happen. I said, there's there's no way there throwing this,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: and I hesitated a second and it became a breakup
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: instead of a little exception return for touchdown. And then
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: one time we were playing the Rams and this quarterback
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Mark Bulger, He's looking at me on this post and
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my gosh, and I'm covering Tory Holt
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's going down. It is going down.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: And I jumped and they double moved me. Then he
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: overthrew it. So it's all.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You got that one, like.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's staring at me like I'm and I'm thinking,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: oh my god, it's happening like it was also motion.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: It's everything gonna film the whole route. I'm like, you're
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: throwing it and it just they set me up.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Sink of that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Ja They know who to go after. They're like that
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: guy will believe.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Javel.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll have a good time over in the stakes.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: We speak to us said, all right, fellas, all right,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: let's welcome Andrew Winging to the podcast.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: So juwey I should say, how you doing, man?
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: Good? How are you appreciate its good?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: No, man, it's it's it's it's just our it is
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: our honor. All right, let's get to it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I want to touch quickly upon the last game. I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: know that you're like fully focused now and the game
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: against the Cards, but I'll focus on the last game
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: just really quickly. I want you to tell me your
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: highlight of that win against the Charges.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it was one particular play. I think
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: it was just the juice and the energy that everyone
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: played with. You know, we were obviously coming off a
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: tough loss the week before, and it's like, you know what,
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: it's reality. You got to accept it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: For what it is and move on.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: The resilience we showed to put that behind us and
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: come out and just you know, go play with total
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: abandon and do it together and bring Jews. It was
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: that's kind of the culture of the team. And I
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: would say it was just the highlight is being that
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: that it was a culture win in terms of, like
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: I said, just the jewice, the energy, and that equated
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: to some really good outcomes. And it's fun when you're
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter and it's thirty five to six
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: and you're not in a one score game, sweating like crazy,
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: sweating bolt. That was nice that that actually was my
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: highlight now that I think about it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: What happens when you when you get out on the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: field and you realize, ah, they've benched, they've benched the quarterback.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Do you is there like a I feel like, okay,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we've got this. They've they've they've taken, they've resigned almost.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Well in a way. Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: But you know, me myself knowing that backups are the
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: guys you should honestly fear the most in this league
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: because they're they're sitting back, you know, hungry at the
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: bit in their NFL players too, So you've never really
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: kind of you know, take a playoff or anything like that.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: But you definitely are like, okay, well, you know, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: think it's over at this point. But I know for
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: sure as a dB, when I see a backup come
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: in late in the game, I'm like, all right, I'm
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: gonna screw my job. I'm gonna go get a pick
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: or something.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So that well, you touched you touched upon it a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: moment ago. It was, you know, a week after a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: tough loss. You know when it you can imagine kind
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of you can go two ways after a tough loss,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: can't you, Like you can be really down or you
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: can try and you know, you know, take that resilience
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of the team. I imagine that that was a week in
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: which the leaders of the team really needed to step up.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I just want to know if you can tell me
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: about any of your teammates, maybe coaches, that made their
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: presence known in the week prior to that game.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Everyone.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, it wasn't like one guy just came up
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: and went, you know, rah rah this, rah rah that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: But even even Coach Cohen came up to me because
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: you know, we had a lot of guys down in
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: the secondary, and he even challenged me as a leader
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: because you know, I'm not a captain, but I'm kind
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: of a you know, I'm a locker room kind of leader.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: I've been here a long time. Guys have respect for
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: what I say.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: So he challenged me even to get these young guys
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: on the same page and dialed in on the calls
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: and stuff.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: So I thought that was really cool of him.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: And you know, the resilience of the team goes to
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: the coach, and Coach Cohen this year has done an
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: amazing job of whether we've won or we've lost, He's
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: kept such an even keel and you know, kept the
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: perspective really good, and he's always given us good, you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: mental training nuggets about how to persevere through this and that. So,
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: to be honest, it was him. You know, in years past,
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: I know, you know, we would have probably crumbled after
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: a loss like that and been like, oh, dang it,
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: you know, we you know, we have to win those games.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: But you know that happens. This is the NFL.
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: So his leadership has been fantastic and it's trickled down
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: to everybody.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to give a big shout out to
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a colleague of yours, a teammate of yours, Josh heinz Allen,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: who got that sack record. Can you tell me what
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: it's like to suit up alongside him every weekend.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: It's fantastic.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: You know, me and Josh are the last two guys
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: from the class of twenty nineteen. He was the first
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: pick and I was the undrafted probably last pick, so
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: it's super cool. He's one of my best friends on
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: the team outside of here as well, and we had
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: a good little party for him on Monday night after
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: that as well. So it's just super cool to see
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: a guy like that who you've been grinding with from
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: the jump and you know what he was like as
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  Speaker 7: a rookie and to see him go from you know,
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  Speaker 7: they put a lot of pressure on first round draft
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  Speaker 7: picks and he's become everything and more.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm super happy for him.
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  Speaker 7: And he's just a better guy than he is a player,
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  Speaker 7: So to see him get reward like that, it's super cool.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you just mentioned there you're an undrafted free
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: agent is stuck around in the league.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's fair to.
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  Speaker 1: Say, you know, it's been a You've been with the
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  Speaker 1: same team, but it's been a journey for you. You know,
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  Speaker 1: actually a journey that loads of players that come into
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: two NFL teams that are in your position, well they
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: don't make I'm wondering how much you think about where
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: you've come from, you know, since you got picked up
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  Speaker 1: by the Jags.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's super cool just to think about it in retrospect,
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: just you know, it's God at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 7: It really makes me put more into my faith of like, wow,
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  Speaker 7: like he really brought me along and you know, move
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  Speaker 7: mountains for me. So I'm just proud of of buying
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  Speaker 7: into him and doing my thing and never you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: never seeing myself as oh, you're an undrafted free agent, like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: oh this or that. I had the mentality of all right,
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: well you step on the grass, prove it to me,
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: and I, you know, I was. I even told one
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: of my coaches the other day, like I wanted to
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: get drafted. Obviously every kid wants to get drafted. But
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: we were talking about life lessons and it was like
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: me going undrafted was the best thing that could have
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: happened for me. It kind of woke me up, kind
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: of you know, got that fire back in my gut,
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: brought the dog out in me. So it was a blessing.
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  Speaker 7: And here I am today and it's just super cool.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: You just believe in yourself and go be a dog.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: So we have.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: A former NFL dB that's on the show every week,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Jason Bell. I asked him what I should be asking you.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: He wants to know about your ability to communicate. How
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: are you able to keep everyone on the same page,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: whether it's on you know, defense or special teams.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I, for whatever reason, the intangible of communication is
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: like what I do. It's like one of my It's
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: one of the things that I was just blessed with. Obviously,
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: anyone in my family would tell you I'm extremely loud,
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: So that's one key to it. But then just the
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: demonstrative just kind of you know, I love I studied
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: history growing up. I love, you know, warfare and studying
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: all that stuff. And I've always kind of seen myself
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: as you know, you know, a squad leader kind of
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: this or that, kind of getting guys lined up, and
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: for whatever reason, I'm just really good at that. And
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: and you know, guys when they're on the field with me,
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: for whatever reason, they you know, you just see them
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: every play just kind of sideye me, kind of look
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: at me like are we doing this? We're doing that,
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: and I just kind of get them, get them in
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: the right spot. And it's just like I said, it's
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: natural to me. So I think it's kind of a
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: calming effect to my boys out there.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: When you're all on the same page.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: It gets you out of your own head and here's
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: someone else barking.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: At you and telling you what to do.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: It kind of just focuses you in So that's I
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: don't know how I do it, but that's why I do.
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: I play a ton of call of duty in war zone,
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: so I'm sure the communication stems from that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: So I mean, that's it. That's it. That's so, that's
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: what you're saying.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Basically, you'd recommend anybody that wants to be an NFL
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: player get on war Zone.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: That's what you're saying.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'm down, down to down, I'm pushing. I'm pushing.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Let's move left. You know, it's like, it's what you do.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about QB eyes?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Can you tell us about the difference in some quarterbacks
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you've faced and how you've learned to trust your instincts
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: on whether you've learned to believe the eyes of a quarterback.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: You know, you play some quarterbacks who they're just gonna
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: stare things down and they don't really try to manipulate you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: And obviously those quarterbacks usually don't last very long. So
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: you get down the road, you know, you play the Herberts,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: the mahomes Is, all those guys. You play Rogers. It's
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: like they're gonna look another way just to get you
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: to go somewhere to throw the ball to the complete
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: opposite way. So sometimes you got to buy into it
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: and sometimes you don't. It's just studying on a lot
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: of tape and kind of getting to read on them.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: But once you get out there, you really don't have
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: time to think. So hopefully you studied enough, or hopefully
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: you just have the intuition to think he's looking you
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: off or he's not. So that's definitely a big thing.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: But some of these guys are just so good at
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: you know, even mahomes like he does the no look
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: like it's become crazy. So you really just kind of
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: trust your rules and hope you make the right decision.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Do we.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much? Good luck against the cars this weekend.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Beautiful, Thanks Jay, Thanks for having me Jay.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: What a lovely chat with Dewey Winger. He comes from
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: excellent stock. I am lucky enough to have met his
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: parents and now lovely, which explains why Dewey is also
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: so lovely.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: What sort of chat do his parents? How do you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: have a nice conversation with them?
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: They were as chatty as him, I will put it
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: that way.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing, all right?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Then?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, that was a good episode. That was nicer and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it's always better with the win.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Next game, of course, Arizona Cardinals in the in the desert.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: It doesert.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It kind of is did you call it in the desert?
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a very different climate to Florida. Let's just
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: put it that way. Nine oh five on Sunday, UK.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: And Irish time. Of course, how are you watching.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: It, King?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I will be watching it on my TV in the
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: cart but yeah, with one of my best friends who
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: is a Patriots fan.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm speeching, speeching a few days and of
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: course we'll have Jay Bell on from.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: From the United States.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be back next week.
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