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Men in Black · Verbal Diorama

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Hi
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everyone,
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I'm
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Em.
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And
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welcome
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to
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verbal
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diorama,
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episode
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323,
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Men
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in
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Black.
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This
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is
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the
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podcast
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that's
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all
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about
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the
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history
2:42
and
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legacy
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of
2:43
movies,
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you
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know,
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and
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movies
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you
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don't.
2:45
That
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keeps
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getting
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eye
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exams
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from
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a
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weird
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government
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agency.
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I'm
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not
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sure
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why.
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Anyway,
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welcome
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to
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Verbal
2:53
Diorama.
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Whether
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you've
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a
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brand
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new
2:55
listener,
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whether
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you're
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a
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regular
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returning
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listener,
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thank
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you
2:57
for
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being
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here.
2:58
Thank
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you
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for
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choosing
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to
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listen
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to
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this
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podcast.
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I'm
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so
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happy
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to
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have
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you
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here
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for
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the
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history
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and
3:03
legacy
3:03
of
3:04
Men
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in
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Black.
3:05
There
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are
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lots
3:06
of
3:06
podcasts
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out
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there
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that
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all
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vine
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for
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your
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ears
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and
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for
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your
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attention.
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I'm
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so
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happy
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that
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you've
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chosen
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to
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listen
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to
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this
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one
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and
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if
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you
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are
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a
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regular
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returning
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listener
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and
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you've
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continued
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to
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listen
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and
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support
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this
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podcast
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for
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however
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long
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you
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have
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been
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returning
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to
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this
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podcast.
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Thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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returning
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to
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this
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podcast.
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It
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genuinely
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means
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so
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much
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to
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me
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as
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a
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small
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independent
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podcaster
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who
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has
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literally
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done
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323
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episodes
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completely
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by
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herself.
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Like,
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it's
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just
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crazy.
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And
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it
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blows
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my
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mind
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that
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people
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still
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come
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back
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to
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this
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podcast,
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but
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I'm
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so
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grateful
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that
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you
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have.
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There
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has
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been
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a
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slight
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delay
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on
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this
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episode
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and
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it's
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mostly
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due
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to
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me
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being
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a
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bit
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poorly
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recently.
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I'm
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not
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sure
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if
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you
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can
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tell
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by
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my
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voice.
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My
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voice
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is
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still
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not
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100%.
3:50
I've
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had
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a
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chest
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infection.
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But
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I
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will
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be
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editing
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all
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of
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the
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coughing
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that
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I
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will
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be
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doing
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out
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of
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this
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episode,
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and
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I'm
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hoping
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that
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my
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voice
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continues
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to
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work
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throughout
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this
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podcast
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because
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unfortunately,
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you
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can't
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really
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have
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a
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podcast
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if
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your
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voice
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doesn't
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work.
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However,
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I
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will
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say
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the
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rumrumoursors
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Iwasvisitedbysomegentlemenin
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black
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suits
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and
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told
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not
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to
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record
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this
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episode
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are
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completely
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untrue.
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In
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this
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movie,
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the
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good
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guys
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might
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dress
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in
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black,
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but
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if
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you've
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ever
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experienced
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some
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strange
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phenomena
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and
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afterwards
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were
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visited
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by
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some
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men
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dressed
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in
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black
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suits,
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chances
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are
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they
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may
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not
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have
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been
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completely
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good.
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But
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this
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movie
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completely
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changed
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the
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public's
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opinion
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of
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them.
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So
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maybe
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this
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is
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all
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just
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great
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PR.
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Here's
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the
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trailer
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for
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Men
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in
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Black.
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Extraterrestrial
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refugees
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of
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all
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shapes,
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sizes
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and
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colors
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have
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been
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living
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secretly
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on
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Earth
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for
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decades,
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masquerading
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as
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humans
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and
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peacefully
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coexisting
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with
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the
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inhabitants
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of
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Manhattan.
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The
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rebellious
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and
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malevolent
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ones
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are
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kept
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under
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control
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by
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a
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secret
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government
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organization
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called
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the
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Men
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in
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Black.
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Veteran
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Agent
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K
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enlists
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NYPD
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officer
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James
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Edwards
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as
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the
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agency's
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newest
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recruit,
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Agent
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J.
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And
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they
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investigate
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an
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illegal
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landing
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and
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the
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murder
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of
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a
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member
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of
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the
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Arquillian
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royal
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family,
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protecting
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the
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Earth
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from
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the
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scum
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of
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the
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universe.
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Let's
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run
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through
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the
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cast.
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We
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have
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Tommy
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Lee
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Jones
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as
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Agent
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K,
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Will
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Smith
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as
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James
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Edwards,
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aka
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Agent
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J.
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Linda
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Fiorentino
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as
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Dr.
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Laurel
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Weaver,
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Vincent
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D'
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Onofrio
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as
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Edgar,
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aka
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the
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Bug
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Rip
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Torn
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as
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Chief
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Zed.
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Tony
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Shalhoub
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as
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Jack
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Jeebs,
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Siobhan
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Fallen
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Hogan
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as
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Beatrice
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and
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Tim
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Blaney
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as
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the
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voice
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of
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Frank,
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the
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pug.
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Men
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in
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Black
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was
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written
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by
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Ed
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Solomon
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and
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was
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directed
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by
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Barry
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Sonnenfeld,
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based
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on
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the
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Men
8:08
in
8:09
Black
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by
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Lowell
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Cunningham
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and
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Sandy
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Carruthers.
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The
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good
8:13
guys
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dress
8:14
in
8:14
black.
8:15
Remember
8:15
that?
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But
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while
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Tommy
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Lee
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Jones
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and
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Will
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Smith
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were
8:19
the
8:19
good
8:19
guys
8:20
and
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basically
8:20
made
8:21
the
8:21
Men
8:21
in
8:21
Black
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cool,
8:22
fun
8:22
and
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stylish,
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historically,
8:24
the
8:24
myths
8:25
and
8:25
legends
8:25
around
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the
8:26
real
8:26
Men
8:26
in
8:27
Black
8:27
are
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undeniably
8:28
more
8:29
sinister.
8:30
In
8:30
UFO
8:30
conspiracy
8:31
theories.
8:31
Men
8:32
in
8:32
Black
8:32
are
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allegedly
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government
8:33
agents
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dressed
8:35
in
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dark
8:35
suits
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who
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question,
8:37
interrogate,
8:38
harass,
8:38
and
8:39
threaten
8:39
UFO
8:40
witnesses
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to
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keep
8:41
them
8:41
quiet
8:42
about
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what
8:42
they've
8:43
seen,
8:44
no
8:44
government
8:44
department
8:45
has
8:45
claimed
8:46
them.
8:46
And
8:46
while
8:46
this
8:47
movie
8:47
has
8:47
an
8:47
alien
8:48
bug
8:48
in
8:48
a
8:48
farmer's
8:49
skin
8:49
suit,
8:50
there
8:50
are
8:50
many
8:50
rumors
8:51
that
8:51
the
8:51
Men
8:51
in
8:51
Black
8:52
may
8:52
not
8:52
have
8:52
been
8:53
human
8:53
at
8:53
all
8:54
either.
8:54
But
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aliens
8:55
wearing
8:56
human
8:56
Disguises.
8:58
According
8:59
to
8:59
reports
8:59
from
8:59
alleged
9:00
witnesses,
9:01
men
9:01
in
9:01
black
9:01
are
9:02
tall
9:02
and
9:02
lean,
9:03
typically
9:03
wearing
9:03
sunglasses
9:04
and
9:05
ill
9:05
fitting
9:05
old
9:06
fashioned
9:06
black
9:07
suits,
9:07
arriving
9:08
in
9:08
vintage
9:08
black
9:09
cars
9:09
and
9:10
speaking
9:10
in
9:10
strange
9:11
stilted
9:12
manners.
9:13
They
9:13
almost
9:13
always
9:14
have
9:14
pale
9:15
white
9:15
skin,
9:16
sometimes
9:16
reported
9:17
as
9:17
looking
9:18
milky,
9:18
with
9:19
expressionless
9:19
faces.
9:20
They
9:21
would
9:21
know
9:21
private
9:22
details
9:22
about
9:22
the
9:23
witnesses
9:23
they
9:23
visited,
9:24
would
9:24
know
9:25
key
9:25
items
9:25
of
9:26
the
9:26
UFO
9:26
sighting.
9:27
The
9:27
witness
9:28
hadn't
9:28
told
9:28
anyone
9:29
else
9:29
and
9:29
often
9:30
witnesses
9:30
would
9:30
claim
9:31
these
9:31
men
9:31
in
9:31
black
9:32
could
9:32
read
9:32
their
9:33
minds.
9:33
But
9:34
after
9:34
a
9:34
brief
9:34
discussion,
9:35
the
9:35
men
9:36
in
9:36
black
9:36
would
9:36
intimidate
9:37
these
9:37
witnesses
9:38
into
9:38
keeping
9:38
silent
9:39
and
9:39
not
9:39
sharing
9:40
evidence.
9:41
The
9:42
earliest
9:42
known
9:42
case
9:43
of
9:43
a
9:43
men
9:43
in
9:43
black
9:44
encounter
9:44
was
9:44
the
9:45
Maury
9:45
Island
9:45
Incident.
9:46
Harold
9:47
Dahl
9:47
and
9:47
Fred
9:48
Crisman
9:48
claimed
9:49
to
9:49
have
9:49
witnessed
9:49
UFOs
9:50
near
9:51
Maury
9:51
Island,
9:51
Washington
9:52
on
9:52
21
9:53
June
9:54
1947.
9:55
According
9:56
to
9:56
Dahl,
9:56
the
9:57
unidentified
9:57
craft
9:58
dropped
9:58
what
9:59
he
9:59
thought
9:59
were
9:59
newspapers,
10:00
but
10:00
turned
10:01
out
10:01
to
10:01
be
10:01
very
10:02
thin
10:02
sheets
10:03
of
10:03
a
10:03
metal
10:03
type
10:04
substance
10:04
as
10:05
well
10:05
as
10:05
lava
10:06
type
10:06
rocks
10:06
that
10:06
injured
10:07
a
10:07
crewman
10:08
and
10:08
killed
10:08
his
10:08
dog.
10:10
The
10:10
date
10:10
is
10:10
interesting.
10:11
Over
10:12
300
10:12
reports
10:13
were
10:14
filed
10:14
of
10:14
unidentified
10:15
flying
10:16
objects
10:17
in
10:17
the
10:17
United
10:18
States
10:18
in
10:19
June
10:19
and
10:19
July
10:20
1947.
10:22
So
10:22
much
10:22
so
10:22
it
10:23
has
10:23
its
10:23
own
10:23
Wikipedia
10:24
entry;
10:25
1947
10:26
Flying
10:26
Disc
10:27
Craze.
10:28
On
10:28
24
10:29
June
10:29
1947,
10:30
private
10:31
pilot
10:31
Kenneth
10:32
Arnold
10:32
saw
10:33
what
10:33
he
10:33
described
10:34
as
10:34
a
10:34
string
10:34
of
10:34
nine
10:35
shiny
10:36
unidentified
10:37
flying
10:37
objects
10:38
flying
10:38
past
10:39
Mount
10:39
Rainier
10:40
at
10:40
speed.
10:41
Arnold's
10:41
sighting
10:42
garnered
10:42
nationwide
10:43
news
10:43
coverage
10:44
and
10:44
is
10:44
credited
10:45
with
10:45
being
10:45
the
10:46
first
10:46
of
10:46
the
10:46
modern
10:47
era
10:47
of
10:47
UFO
10:48
sightings.
10:49
But
10:49
this
10:49
publicity
10:50
also
10:50
led
10:51
to
10:51
a
10:51
string
10:51
of
10:52
copycat
10:52
reports
10:52
and
10:53
hoaxes
10:54
after
10:54
the
10:54
Craze
10:55
peaked
10:55
on
10:55
7
10:56
July
10:57
1947.
10:58
Reports
10:58
had
10:59
largely
10:59
subsided
11:00
by
11:00
the
11:00
10th.
11:01
Could
11:02
it
11:02
be
11:02
mistaken
11:03
identification
11:03
and
11:04
mass
11:04
hysteria?
11:05
Was
11:05
the
11:06
advent
11:06
of
11:06
science
11:06
fiction,
11:07
cinema
11:07
books
11:08
and
11:08
comic
11:08
strips
11:09
to
11:09
blame?
11:10
Or
11:10
was
11:11
it
11:11
simply
11:12
many
11:12
alien
11:13
ships
11:13
coming
11:13
to
11:13
Earth
11:14
for
11:14
sanctuary?
11:15
The
11:16
Maury
11:16
island
11:16
incident
11:17
would
11:17
also
11:17
later
11:18
be
11:18
called
11:18
a
11:18
hoax.
11:20
The
11:20
earliest
11:21
well
11:21
documented
11:22
Men
11:22
in
11:22
black
11:23
case
11:23
involves
11:24
Albert
11:24
K.
11:24
Bender,
11:25
who
11:25
founded
11:26
the
11:26
International
11:26
Flying
11:27
Saucer
11:27
Bureau,
11:28
the
11:28
first
11:29
major
11:29
civilian
11:30
ufo
11:30
Club,
11:30
in
11:31
1952.
11:32
In
11:32
1953,
11:33
Bender
11:34
claimed
11:34
he
11:34
was
11:35
visited
11:35
by
11:35
three
11:36
men
11:36
in
11:36
dark
11:36
suits
11:37
who
11:37
threatened
11:38
him
11:38
into
11:38
silence
11:39
about
11:39
his
11:39
UFO
11:40
research.
11:41
He
11:41
shut
11:42
down
11:42
his
11:42
organisation
11:43
in
11:43
October
11:43
1953
11:45
when
11:45
the
11:45
group
11:45
published
11:46
the
11:46
final
11:47
issue
11:47
of
11:47
its
11:47
newsletter
11:48
announcing
11:49
the
11:49
disbanding
11:50
of
11:50
the
11:50
organisation.
11:52
The
11:52
final
11:52
issue
11:53
reported
11:53
that,
11:54
quote,
11:54
the
11:55
mystery
11:55
of
11:55
the
11:55
flying
11:56
saucers
11:56
is
11:56
no
11:57
longer
11:57
a
11:57
mystery.
11:58
The
11:58
source
11:58
is
11:59
already
11:59
known,
11:59
but
12:00
any
12:00
information
12:00
about
12:01
this
12:01
is
12:01
being
12:02
withheld
12:02
by
12:03
orders
12:03
from
12:03
a
12:03
higher
12:04
source.
12:05
It's
12:06
claimed
12:06
he
12:06
was
12:06
pressured
12:06
by
12:07
men
12:07
in
12:07
black
12:07
to
12:08
suspend
12:08
Activity
12:09
off
12:09
the
12:09
group.
12:11
Journalist
12:11
and
12:11
UFOLOGIST
12:12
John
12:12
Keel
12:13
documented
12:14
numerous
12:14
men
12:15
in
12:15
black
12:15
encounters
12:16
in
12:16
point
12:16
Pleasant,
12:17
West
12:17
Virginia,
12:18
during
12:18
the
12:18
famous
12:19
Mothman
12:19
sightings
12:20
of
12:20
1966
12:21
and
12:21
1967.
12:23
In
12:23
his
12:23
book
12:23
the
12:24
Mothman
12:24
Prophecies
12:25
from
12:25
1975,
12:26
which
12:27
was
12:27
published
12:27
in
12:28
Britain
12:28
as
12:29
Visitors
12:29
from
12:29
space
12:30
in
12:30
1976,
12:32
witnesses
12:32
claimed
12:33
strange
12:33
men
12:33
in
12:34
black
12:34
visited
12:35
them
12:35
after
12:36
reporting
12:36
the
12:36
creature
12:37
asking
12:38
odd
12:38
questions
12:39
and
12:39
displaying
12:40
bizarre
12:40
behavior.
12:41
In
12:42
September
12:42
1976,
12:43
Dr.
12:44
Herbert
12:44
Hopkins,
12:45
a
12:45
hypnotherapist
12:46
working
12:46
with
12:46
alleged
12:47
alien
12:47
abductees,
12:48
was
12:49
home
12:49
alone
12:49
after
12:49
his
12:50
wife
12:50
and
12:50
children
12:50
had
12:51
gone
12:51
out
12:51
when
12:52
he
12:52
got
12:52
a
12:52
telephone
12:53
call
12:53
from
12:53
the
12:54
vice
12:54
president
12:54
of
12:55
the
12:55
New
12:55
Jersey
12:56
UFO
12:56
Research
12:57
Organization,
12:58
wanting
12:58
to
12:59
come
12:59
and
12:59
visit
12:59
him
13:00
to
13:00
discuss
13:00
a
13:00
case
13:01
he
13:01
was
13:01
working
13:01
on.
13:02
Hopkins
13:03
agreed,
13:03
put
13:03
the
13:04
phone
13:04
down
13:04
and
13:05
went
13:05
to
13:05
turn
13:05
on
13:05
his
13:06
porch
13:06
light,
13:07
only
13:07
to
13:07
find
13:07
the
13:08
man
13:08
already
13:08
climbing
13:09
his
13:09
porch
13:09
steps.
13:10
This
13:11
was
13:11
well
13:11
before
13:11
mobile
13:12
phones,
13:12
of
13:12
course,
13:13
and
13:13
the
13:13
man
13:13
didn't
13:14
appear
13:14
to
13:14
have
13:14
come
13:15
in
13:15
a
13:15
car
13:15
either.
13:16
According
13:17
to
13:17
Hopkins,
13:18
the
13:18
visitor
13:18
wore
13:18
a
13:18
black
13:19
suit,
13:19
had
13:20
no
13:20
hair,
13:21
eyebrows
13:21
or
13:22
eyelashes,
13:23
had
13:23
dead
13:23
white
13:23
skin
13:24
and
13:24
spoke
13:25
in
13:25
a
13:25
monotone.
13:26
All
13:26
this
13:26
robotic
13:27
voice.
13:28
His
13:28
lips
13:28
were
13:28
bright
13:29
red.
13:29
When
13:30
the
13:30
man
13:30
smeared
13:31
his
13:31
lips,
13:31
the
13:32
red
13:32
smeared
13:33
across
13:33
his
13:33
face
13:33
as
13:33
if
13:34
it
13:34
were
13:34
lipstick.
13:35
The
13:35
visitor
13:36
had
13:36
no
13:36
visible
13:37
lips,
13:37
just
13:37
a
13:38
mouth
13:38
slit.
13:39
He
13:39
allegedly
13:40
already
13:40
knew
13:41
about
13:41
a
13:41
coin
13:41
in
13:42
Hopkins
13:42
pocket
13:43
that
13:43
he
13:43
could
13:43
not
13:44
have
13:44
already
13:44
known
13:44
about,
13:45
and
13:45
made
13:45
that
13:46
coin
13:46
change
13:46
colour
13:47
and
13:47
dematerialise
13:48
as
13:49
a
13:49
demonstration,
13:50
and
13:50
then
13:50
warned
13:51
Hopkins
13:51
to
13:51
destroy
13:52
his
13:52
UFO
13:53
research.
13:54
In
13:55
the
13:55
1970s,
13:55
Paul
13:56
Bennewitz
13:56
became
13:57
involved
13:57
with
13:57
the
13:57
Aerial
13:58
Phenomena
13:59
Research
13:59
Organization
14:00
in
14:00
Arizona,
14:01
attending
14:01
meetings
14:02
and
14:02
becoming
14:03
known
14:03
to
14:03
the
14:03
authorities
14:04
for
14:04
his
14:04
interest
14:05
in
14:05
ufo
14:05
investigations.
14:07
In
14:07
July
14:07
1979,
14:08
he
14:09
intercepted
14:09
what
14:10
he
14:10
believed
14:10
to
14:10
be
14:11
UFO
14:11
communications
14:12
and
14:13
strange
14:13
lights
14:14
originating
14:15
near
14:15
Kirtland
14:15
Air
14:16
Force
14:16
Base
14:16
in
14:16
New
14:17
Mexico.
14:18
In
14:18
May
14:18
1980,
14:19
he
14:19
met
14:19
a
14:20
woman
14:20
calling
14:20
herself
14:21
Myrna
14:21
Hansen,
14:22
who
14:23
told
14:23
Benowitz
14:24
she
14:24
and
14:24
her
14:24
son
14:25
had
14:25
witnessed
14:26
two
14:26
large
14:26
silent
14:27
objects
14:27
in
14:27
the
14:27
sky.
14:28
Hansen
14:29
was
14:29
hypnotized
14:30
and
14:30
gave
14:30
further
14:31
information
14:32
about
14:32
Roswell,
14:33
New
14:33
Mexico,
14:33
which
14:34
hadn't
14:34
been
14:35
publicly
14:35
associated
14:36
with
14:36
alien
14:36
activity
14:37
at
14:37
that
14:37
point.
14:38
It
14:38
would
14:39
become
14:39
so
14:39
with
14:40
the
14:40
publication
14:40
of
14:40
the
14:40
Roswell
14:41
incident
14:42
in
14:42
September
14:42
1980.
14:44
Convinced
14:44
he'd
14:45
found
14:45
evidence
14:46
of
14:46
an
14:46
extraterrestrial
14:47
presence,
14:48
as
14:48
well
14:48
as
14:48
a
14:48
secret
14:49
alien
14:49
facility
14:50
called
14:50
Dulce
14:51
Base,
14:51
Bennewitz
14:52
contacted
14:53
the
14:53
Air
14:53
Force.
14:54
His
14:54
claims
14:55
weren't
14:55
dismissed,
14:56
but
14:56
allegedly
14:56
the
14:57
Air
14:57
Force,
14:57
and
14:57
with
14:58
them,
14:58
the
14:58
men
14:58
in
14:58
black,
14:59
encouraged
15:00
Bennewitz
15:00
and
15:01
fed
15:01
him
15:01
false
15:01
information.
15:03
It
15:03
turned
15:03
out
15:03
that
15:03
Merlin
15:04
Hansen
15:04
was
15:05
also
15:05
part
15:05
of
15:05
the
15:05
disinformation
15:06
campaign.
15:07
The
15:08
tactic
15:08
was
15:08
designed
15:08
to
15:09
discredit
15:09
Bennewitz
15:10
and
15:10
for
15:10
the
15:11
public
15:11
to
15:11
see
15:11
his
15:11
claims
15:12
as
15:12
nothing
15:12
but
15:13
lies.
15:14
Bennewitz
15:14
would
15:15
suffer
15:15
with
15:15
his
15:15
mental
15:16
health
15:16
for
15:16
the
15:16
rest
15:16
of
15:17
his
15:17
life.
15:18
Gray
15:18
Barker's
15:19
1956
15:20
book
15:20
they
15:20
Knew
15:21
Too
15:21
Much
15:21
About
15:21
Flying
15:22
Saucers
15:22
helped
15:23
popularize
15:24
the
15:24
Men
15:24
in
15:24
Black
15:24
phenomenon.
15:25
It
15:25
was
15:26
the
15:26
first
15:26
book
15:26
to
15:26
allege
15:27
that
15:27
Men
15:27
in
15:27
Black
15:27
were
15:28
covering
15:28
up
15:28
the
15:29
existence
15:29
of
15:29
flying
15:29
saucers
15:30
and
15:30
cited
15:31
the
15:31
examples
15:32
of
15:32
Albert
15:32
K.
15:33
Bender
15:33
and
15:33
the
15:33
Maury
15:34
Island
15:34
Incident,
15:35
among
15:35
others.
15:36
They
15:36
Knew
15:36
Too
15:37
Much
15:37
About
15:37
Flying
15:37
Saucers
15:38
would
15:39
also
15:39
notably
15:40
influence
15:40
the
15:40
X
15:41
Files.
15:42
But
15:42
the
15:42
Men
15:43
in
15:43
Black
15:43
mysteries
15:44
refused
15:44
to
15:44
die
15:44
down
15:45
and
15:45
in
15:45
1990
15:46
Airsol
15:47
Comics
15:48
published
15:48
the
15:48
first
15:49
three
15:49
issues
15:50
of
15:50
the
15:50
Men
15:50
in
15:51
Black.
15:51
Written
15:52
by
15:52
Lowell
15:53
Cunningham
15:52
and
15:53
illustratebySandyCarruthers.Thecomics
15:56
weregrittier,morenoir
15:57
influencedandplayedtheconceptstraighterwithoutthehumor
16:01
thatbecamethefilm'strademark.
16:03
The
16:03
MeninBlackthemselvesweremore
16:05
mysteriousandbleakinlinewiththeirreal
16:07
lifecounterparts.
16:09
With
16:09
moreofahorroror
16:10
thrillertone,
16:11
thecomics
16:12
focusedmore
16:13
on
16:13
governmentconspiracytheoriesandhadamoreof
16:16
aparanoidX
16:17
conspiracy
16:17
theories
16:18
and
16:18
had
16:19
a
16:19
more
16:20
of
16:20
a
16:21
paranoid
16:21
X
16:22
Files
16:22
like
16:23
atmosphere.
16:23
Aircel
16:24
Comics
16:24
were
16:25
MarvelComicsin
16:26
1994.In1992,producersWalterF.ParksandLaurieMacDonald
16:32
optionedtherightstothe
16:33
comicbookseries,enlisting
16:34
Ed
16:35
Solomonto
16:35
writea
16:36
faithfuladaptation
16:37
ofthecomic
16:38
book.Thisincluded
16:39
setting
16:39
themovieelsewherethanNewYorkbecausealien
16:42
activityhappensin
16:43
loads
16:44
ofplacesandnotjustNewYorkCity.AnddespiteStevenSpielberg'sinvolvementasexecutiveproducer,they
16:51
onlyhadonenameinmindto
16:53
directBarrySonnenfeldbecause
16:55
ofhisadaptationsoftheAddamsFamilyandAddamsFamilyValues.Bothpreviousepisodes
17:00
ofthispodcasttoo.Episode119fortheAddamsFamilyand176
17:05
forAddamsFamilyValues.Ilovethose
17:07
movies
17:07
somuch.BarrySonnenfeldhad
17:10
been
17:10
tryingto
17:11
getGetShortymade
17:12
atthetimeand
17:13
gotthescriptfor
17:14
Men
17:14
inBlackandlovedit.But
17:16
hehadsomeideasthattheproducersweren'tkeenonandbecausehe
17:20
wasattachedtoGet
17:21
Shorty,heendedupdecliningtomakethemovie.Theproducersthenapproachedthe
17:26
directorof
17:27
Miracleon
17:27
34thStreet,LesMayfield,whojoinedtheprojectbutdidn'thavethe
17:32
sort
17:32
of
17:32
grasponthemovietheywanted,sohe
17:35
alsomovedon.JohnLandisandQuentinTarantino
17:38
werereportedlyalsoaskedto
17:40
direct,buttheyalsodeclined.Asaresult,themovieadaptation
17:44
ofMeninBlackbecamedelayed,whichworkedinBarrySonnenfeld's
17:48
favor.Heandhiswifewerehavingbreakfastat
17:51
theIvyandontheNexttablewasSony's
17:54
headofproduction,BarryJosephson.Sonnenfeld
17:57
knewonthegrapevinethatMen
17:58
inBlackstilldidn't
18:00
haveadirector.SohesuggestedtoJosephsonthatiftheywould
18:04
waitforhimtofinishGet
18:05
Shorty,hewoulddirectthemovie.Josephsonagreed,andthatmeantSonnenfeldwasbackonthemovie.But
18:13
theproducersalwayswantedClint
18:15
Eastwoodtoplaythe
18:16
partofstalwartlongservingagent
18:19
K.ButoneofSonnenfeld's
18:21
original
18:21
ideas
18:22
thattheyhadn'tlikedwascasting
18:24
TommyLeeJones.SoonceSonnenfeld
18:26
wasbackinpicture,theygotin
18:28
touchwithTommyLeeJones,wholikedthe
18:30
ideaandcame
18:31
onboardwithstipulations,oneofthembeingdirectorapproval.
18:37
Luckilyfor
18:37
Sonnenfeld,Jonesapproved
18:39
hishiringasdirector.Theotherstipulationwasthescriptneededrewriting.Fivemonthslater,
18:45
thescriptwas
18:46
goodenoughforTommyLeeJonesandhe
18:49
officiallysignedon.Oneofthe
18:51
otherideas
18:52
that
18:52
BarrySonnenfeldhadwastosetthemoviein
18:55
New
18:55
York.Hewanted
18:57
ittobeliketheFrenchConnectionbutwithaliens.HisthinkingwasthatstrangepeoplecanpassinNewYork.It'sjust
19:05
thatkindofcity.Thescriptwouldevolvewith
19:07
allthese
19:08
new
19:08
ideas,
19:08
includingmakingthecharacterofJayaNewYorkcitycopratherthanagovernment
19:13
agentoramemberofthesecretservice.
19:16
Jaywasinitially
19:17
envisaged
19:18
asawhiteman,
19:19
thetypical
19:20
meninblack
19:21
suitwiththevery,
19:22
verymilkywhiteskintypeofmen
19:24
inblack.AndStevenSpielbergreallywantedChrisO'DonnelltoplayJay.And
19:29
atthetimemid90s,Chris
19:31
O'Donnellwas
19:32
ona
19:32
high.AfterScentof
19:34
aWoman,
19:35
thethreeMusketeers,and
19:36
BatmanForever.SpielbergtoldSonnenfeldto
19:39
takeo'
19:40
Donnelltodinnerto
19:41
convincehimto
19:42
jointhemovie,eventhough
19:44
the
19:44
character
19:45
of
19:45
J
19:45
toplayanothersidekickrolesosoon
19:48
afterBatman.
19:49
ButSonnenfeld'sother
19:51
the
19:51
secret
19:52
service.
19:52
J
19:53
TommyLeeJones,orhiswife'sidea,Ishouldsay,wasWillSmith.ButwhenStevenSpielbergasksyoutotake
20:00
someoneoutfordinner,youtakethem.Sohedid.HetookChriso'Donnell
20:05
todinnerandtoldhimthat
20:07
Donnell
20:07
to
20:07
play
20:08
J.
20:08
And
20:08
at
20:09
the
20:09
time
20:09
thinkthe
20:09
scriptforMeninBlackwasverygood.
20:11
Andif
20:12
o'Donnellhadanyotheroptions,heprobablyshouldn'tdoMeninBlack.
20:16
Thenextday,Chriso'Donnell
20:18
officially
20:18
declinedthepart.A
20:20
partDavidSchwimmer
20:21
from
20:21
Friendswas
20:22
also
20:22
intherunningforat
20:23
one
20:23
point.ButBarrySonnenfeld
20:25
reallywantedWill
20:26
Smith.ButheneededStevenSpielbergtosignoff
20:30
onWillSmith.Sonnenfeld,who
20:33
lived
20:33
yearroundinEasthamptonwhereSpielbergspenthis
20:36
summers,
20:37
arrangedfor
20:37
ahelicopter
20:38
totakeSmithfromaweddinginPhiladelphiatoNew
20:41
YorkwhereSmithandSpielbergmetforthefirsttime.And
20:45
theyreally
20:45
hititoffandSpielbergagreedthat
20:47
Sonnenfeldcouldhirehimforthemovie.
20:50
Atthat
20:50
point,IndependenceDayhadn't
20:52
yetcomeoutandWillSmithwasmostlyknownforthe
20:55
FreshPrinceandBadBoys.Smithwas
20:59
concerned
20:59
abouttakingonanother
21:00
alienthemedmovieso
21:02
soonafterIndependenceDay.Butatthattime
21:05
nooneknewhis
21:06
careerwas
21:07
abouttogostratospheric.Andon
21:10
paper,Tommy
21:11
LeeJonesandWillSmithshouldn'twork.
21:13
Joneswasknown
21:14
forhisgruff
21:15
personalityandSmithforbeingaffableandfunny.ButwhileTommyLeeJoneshadsomereservationsabouttheircomedicpairing,they
21:23
actuallygotonlikeahouseonfire.Jonestookawhiletofeelcomfortable
21:28
being
21:28
thestraightman.He
21:29
worriedthatonly
21:30
Smith'sperformancewouldbeseenasfunny,buthimplayingit
21:34
straightwasjustasfunny.Andthepairriffedoffeach
21:37
otherperfectly.TherumorthatLindaFiorentinogot
21:41
therole
21:41
aftershewonapokergameisn'ttechnicallytrue.
21:44
ShedidplaypokerandBarry
21:46
Sonnenfeld
21:47
wasat
21:48
the
21:48
samepoker
21:49
table.
21:49
But
21:49
she
21:50
didn'tgettherolebecauseshewonit.Shegot
21:52
therolesimplybecauseSonnenfeldrememberedher
21:54
frompokerand
21:55
thoughtshe'd
21:56
begreatforthepartofdeputy
21:58
medicalexaminerDr.LaurelWeaver.Therearemanyotherrumoursthatshedidn'tcomeback
22:03
forthesequeldue
22:04
toafallingoutwithTommyLee
22:05
Jones.Apparentlyhecouldnotsanctionherbuffoonery.OrmaybethatwasJim
22:09
Carrey.Butthesimplefactof
22:11
thematterwasthattheywantedtobringback
22:13
Jonesfor
22:13
asequel,which
22:15
atthetimewasobviouslyunplanned.And
22:17
therewasnoroleforLindaFiorentino
22:19
after
22:19
theybroughtbackJonesasKay.But
22:22
inamoviefullofmemorableperformances,onemantrulysticks
22:27
out.Well,notreally
22:28
aman,moreofa
22:29
bug,
22:30
actually.
22:31
Vincent
22:32
d'Onofrioplayinganalienbug
22:35
playingaman.Anditisa
22:38
pieceofcomedy.Gold.D'
22:40
Onofrio'snamecameupearlyin
22:41
thecastingprocessbecauseSonnenfeldlovedhiminFullMetalJacket.
22:46
Heofferedd'Onofriothepartinstantlywithouthimhavingtoaudition
22:50
orevenaskquestionsaboutthemovie.
22:52
Theyjustspentthe
22:53
afternoontogetherintheHamptonsandassoonasd'Onofrioaccepted,heflewtoLA
22:58
to
22:59
meetthelegendaryRickBakeratCinevationstudios.
23:02
The
23:02
record
23:03
11timenominatedand7timeAcademyAwardwinningfor
23:07
Bestmakeup,
23:08
Rick
23:08
Baker.OneofthosewinswouldbeforhisworkonMeninBlack.
23:12
Iamgoingtocomeback
23:13
to
23:14
RickBaker
23:14
shortly.
23:17
And
23:17
allofthedirectionfor
23:18
howEdgar
23:19
wouldmove,walk,speak
23:21
orbehavedidn't
23:22
comefromBarrySonnenfeld,
23:24
butfromVincentd'Onofriohimself.Hewatched
23:28
Bugdocumentariesandthoughtabout
23:30
howthebugwould
23:31
befoldedupinsideEdgar.Heboughtbasketballknee
23:35
bracesandlockedhisknees
23:36
andanklessothey
23:37
couldn'tmove
23:38
properly.Hewouldexplainthe
23:40
one
23:40
man
23:41
truly
23:41
sticks
23:42
out.
23:42
Well,
23:42
not
23:43
really
23:43
a
23:44
man,
23:44
more
23:44
of
23:45
a
23:45
bug,
23:46
actually.
23:46
Vincent
23:47
d'Onofrio
23:47
playing
23:47
an
23:48
alien
23:48
bug
23:49
playing
23:49
a
23:50
man.
23:50
And
23:50
it
23:51
is
23:51
a
23:52
piece
23:52
of
23:53
comedy.
23:53
Gold.
23:53
d'Onofrio's
23:54
name
23:55
Bakerandsawhisconceptart,hebuiltthecharacter
23:58
himselffromtheground
23:59
up.Only
24:00
Baker
24:01
Jacket.
24:01
He
24:02
offered
24:02
d'Onofrio
24:03
the
24:03
part
24:04
firstdayofshooting.Sonnenfeldtrustedd'Onofrioenoughtotakethecharacterand
24:09
runwith
24:09
They
24:10
just
24:10
spent
24:11
the
24:11
afternoon
24:11
together
24:12
in
24:12
the
24:13
Hamptons
24:13
and
24:14
as
24:14
soon
24:15
as
24:15
d'Onofrio
24:16
accepted,
24:16
takesat
24:17
thesugar
24:17
waterscene,andhedrankafullglassofsugarwater
24:21
ineachoneand
24:22
thensome.
24:23
BarrySonnenfeldsuggestedheactuallydrank
24:25
11or12glassesofwaterfilledwithsugar,
24:29
becausethat'sthesortofdedicationyougetwhen
24:32
you
24:32
getVincent
24:32
d'Onofrioinyourmovie.BacktoRick
24:35
Baker'sincredibleprostheticsandmakeupandthe
24:38
OscarhesharedwithDavidLeroy
24:40
Anderson
24:41
forhis
24:42
workon
24:42
this
24:42
movie.Becausethisisamoviethatshinesfora
24:45
d'Onofrio
24:45
himself.
24:45
He
24:46
watched
24:46
Bug
24:47
documentaries
24:47
and
24:47
thought
24:48
about
24:48
how
24:48
the
24:49
bug
24:49
would
24:49
those,too.ButEdgarreallyis
24:52
oneofthegreatestmakeupcreationsever,
24:54
andthatisbecause
24:55
oftheworkofDavidLeroyAndersonand
24:58
RickBaker.
25:00
It'sthingsthatyoudon'tmaybenoticeonyourfirstorsecondwatch.ThingslikehowdecomposedEdgar'sskingetsasthemovieprogresses.
25:08
Youcanseeitgograyanddry.Youcanseehumanteeth
25:12
dangling.Rick
25:13
Bakerdidseveraliterationsof
25:15
intact.
25:16
When
25:16
d'Onofrio
25:16
met
25:17
Rick
25:17
themovietheywerefilming.Hewouldglueactualpartsofd'Onofrio'srealfacetootherpartsto
25:23
stretchitupand
25:25
and
25:25
heard
25:26
d'Onofrio's
25:26
prep
25:26
top.
25:27
D'Onofrio'seyelidswere
25:29
shooting.
25:29
Sonnenfeld
25:30
trusted
25:30
d'Onofrio
25:31
enough
25:32
to
25:32
take
25:33
The
25:33
makeupwas
25:34
completedwithfoggycontactlenses,decayingdentalappliancesandplunkersinsertedintothe
25:40
mouthtodistortitsshape.At
25:43
thestart
25:43
ofthe
25:44
movie,whenEdgargoestoinvestigatethe
25:46
explosionofhistruck,supposedly
25:48
inupstateNewYork.
25:49
Theyactuallyfoundafarmanhouranda
25:51
halfnorth
25:51
of
25:52
la,dugaholeand
25:53
useda
25:54
cranetothrowd'Onofrio'sstuntdoubleinthehole.Thatwould
25:58
obviouslybe
25:58
editedoutandreplacedwithaCG
26:00
creaturearm.ButRickBakerdidmakeVincentd'Onofrio'sskintothrowupoutside
26:05
ofthehole.Sonnenfeldwanted
26:07
sceneslikethisalsotobedoneinoneshot.
26:11
Bakerwas
26:11
involvedinthedesignofallofthealiens,
26:13
both
26:14
practicalandcgi.Andthe
26:16
CGI
26:16
inthismovieisusedsparinglyonlyforwhenyouneedtoseecreaturesinwide
26:20
shotsoryouneedmovementsandstunts.Mikey,thealienwouldmeetwithK
26:25
atthestartisboth
26:27
ofthosethings.Buthe
26:28
startsasanincrediblyconvincingpracticalsuit.Bakerspent10
26:33
monthscreating
26:34
aneightfoottall
26:35
aliensuitto
26:36
bewornby
26:37
areal
26:37
actor
26:37
withheadandbodyparts
26:39
controlledby10remoteoperators.Evenso,thedesignteamcouldn'tfigure
26:43
out
26:44
awayforthecreature
26:45
torunquicklyas
26:46
wasrequired
26:47
bythescript.
26:48
SothepracticalMikeyisreplacedbyaCGMikeypartwaythroughhisscene.
26:54
His
26:54
designtookinspirationfromsnails
26:56
andothermollusksaswell
26:57
filming.
26:58
He
26:58
would
26:59
glue
26:59
actual
27:00
parts
27:00
of
27:01
d'Onofrio's
27:01
stalks,retractable
27:02
antennae
27:03
andsmallflippers.
27:05
Andthismovieknowswhenit'sbestto
27:07
top.
27:08
D'Onofrio's
27:08
eyelids
27:09
need
27:09
thecg.Andit
27:11
doesitsowell,it's
27:12
actuallykindof
27:13
scary.Thismovieholdsup
27:15
visuallylikeJurassicpark
27:16
holdsitvisually.AndI'mnotevenbeinghyperbolic,becauseifyou
27:20
thinkthe
27:20
vastmajorityofthismovie
27:21
is
27:21
cg,youareso
27:23
incrediblywrong.JustlikepeoplethinkJurassicparkis
27:26
mostlyCGbecauseithitsthesweetspotof
27:29
thebestofboth.Itdidmeanthatharddecisionshadtobemade,suchasonthepracticalbug.In
27:36
theclimactic
27:37
of
27:37
LA,
27:37
dug
27:37
a
27:38
Rick
27:38
Bakerand
27:39
histeam
27:39
spentmonthsOnofrio's
27:40
stunt
27:41
double
27:41
theybuilttwo
27:42
highlydetailed15foot
27:44
versions.
27:45
One
27:46
was
27:46
afulltip
27:46
ofnose
27:47
to
27:47
tailandwarped,
27:48
but
27:49
Rick
27:49
Baker
27:49
did
27:50
make
27:50
Vincent
27:50
d'Onofrio's
27:51
skin
27:51
to
27:52
throw
27:52
up
27:52
outside
27:53
of
27:53
the
27:53
built
27:54
fromthewaistupwhichwasmoredetailed
27:56
andcouldmovemorefreely.These
27:59
werebothscrappedin
28:00
favorofaCGbug
28:02
whenthescript
28:02
waschangedto
28:03
amoreactionpackedfinale.And
28:05
theywouldhavehadproblemswiththepractical
28:07
bug
28:08
swallowingTommyLeeJones.ButeventheCGwe
28:11
didgetin
28:11
the
28:11
moviestilllooksprettygreat.TheEdgarbugwasanimated
28:15
byIndustrialLightandMagic,andmanyof
28:17
thetechniques
28:18
used,themoist
28:19
skintexturesandliquidoozing
28:21
werenewpiecesof
28:22
softwareatthetime.Whenhisgutexplodes,freeing
28:26
AgentK,thiswasa
28:27
practicaleffect.Eric
28:29
Brevig,Men
28:30
inBlack'svisualeffectssupervisor,
28:32
wantedeverythingCGto
28:33
becomplementedbypracticaleffectswherever
28:36
possible.
28:37
Likeanalienbirth
28:38
scenewithtentaclesgrabbingandthrowing
28:40
WillSmitharound,whichwere
28:42
obviouslycg,followed
28:43
byarealpracticalalienbaby.
28:46
OrVincentd'
28:47
Onofriograbbing
28:48
thebackofhishead
28:48
andpulling
28:49
itaway,whichwaspractical,
28:51
tograduallyrevealingahuge
28:53
gooeyalienbug.D'Onofriopulledthe
28:56
prostheticssomuchthattheyactuallyrippedforreal.Andtheworm
29:00
guyswemeetasKgetscoffeewerelivepuppeteeredwiththepuppeteershiding
29:05
behindtheset.Andtheylooksogreat.Notoncedoyouthinkthey'repuppets.ThemodelswerescannedandrebuiltasidenticalCGmodelsforalaterscenewhenthey'rewalking
29:16
inthe
29:16
headquartersagain,becauseyoucan'tdothatwithrodpuppets.Bakerandhisteambuilta
29:22
one
29:22
to
29:22
onescaleof
29:23
thedead
29:24
Aquilianprince's
29:25
human
29:25
headthat
29:26
wouldopentoreveal
29:27
thereal
29:28
Arquillianprince,
29:29
apuppet
29:30
namedChucky.Theybuiltasecond,
29:32
much
29:32
largerheadtopuppet
29:34
amore
29:34
intricateChucky.
29:36
The
29:36
maquettes
29:36
built
29:37
by
29:37
Baker'steamwerelaterdigitizedbyIndustrialLight
29:40
andMagicforthemoremobiledigitalversionsofthealiens.RickBakerwouldsaythatthemoviewasoneofthe
29:46
mostcomplexproductionsofhiscareer,
29:48
withapprovalneededfromboth
29:50
thedirectorBarrySonnenfeld,
29:52
andexecutiveproducerStevenSpielberg,whooftendidn'thavethesameopinions.There's
29:59
alsoalot
29:59
ofminiatureworkinthismovietoo.Likethespaceshipcrashingintothe
30:04
Unisphere,whichwasbuiltforthe
30:05
1964World'sFair.Thiswas
30:08
realizedbya
30:09
1:6scaleminiatureshootat
30:11
ILMstages.
30:12
The
30:13
ninefoot
30:13
long
30:13
saucerwasguidedintotheUnisphereusingcablesand
30:17
the
30:17
spherewasriggedtoexplodewithpyrotechniccharges.
30:21
TheILM
30:21
digital
30:22
unitdidwireremovalforthese
30:24
shots.AndTommyLeeJonesandWillSmith
30:26
just
30:27
performedtheirpartsonbluescreen.MeninBlackhadnineweeksofpreparationand
30:32
17weekproduction.Andit
30:34
wasacomplexmovieonmanylevels,mostly
30:37
todowiththevariousspecial
30:38
effects.Originallytheyweregoingto
30:41
shootthefinale
30:41
scenes
30:42
onlocationatFlushingMeadows,buttheyended
30:44
up
30:45
filmingonasoundstageatSony.TheyalsobuilttheUS
30:48
Mexicoborderseton
30:50
asoundstage,mostlybecausemuchofthatscenewould
30:53
beimpossibletofilmonlocation.They
30:56
startedfilming
30:57
inMarch1996atSony'ssoundstagesin
31:00
LA.Movingto
31:01
on
31:02
locationinOnofrio
31:03
grabbing
31:03
the
31:04
back
31:04
of
31:04
filmingonlocationinNewYork.Seeacoupleof
31:07
episodesagoforIAmLegend.Theyalsogot
31:09
permission
31:09
alien
31:10
bug.
31:10
D'Onofrio
31:11
pulled
31:11
the
31:12
whichcoincidentally
31:13
lookslike
31:14
astackof
31:14
spaceships,buttheyhad
31:16
restrictionsonthetype
31:17
of
31:17
lightingtheycoulduseinthemuseum.The
31:20
otherincrediblesetbuiltonstage15wasthemeninBlackheadquarters,aretrofuturisticairporthangarlikecustomsarea
31:29
filledwith
31:30
humansandaliensalike.DesignedasanEllisislandfor
31:33
extraterrestrials,Therewereroomsfilled
31:36
withstrangeweaponsandchromeinstruments.Themoderniststyleheadquarterswithits60sdesignelementswasinspiredby
31:43
the
31:43
workofFinnisharchitectEero
31:45
Saarinen,thedesignerofTWA'sterminal
31:49
at
31:49
NewYork'sJohnF.
31:50
KennedyAirport,and
31:51
wasdesignedbyproductiondesignerThoughWelch,
31:54
whohasappearedafewtimesonthispodcastforhisworkonBeetlejuice,Batman
31:58
ReturnsandEdward
31:59
Scissorhands.Welchdidn'twant
32:01
tomakethesetshadowyordark.
32:03
Hewanteditbrightlylit,sterile,clutterfreeandincorporateda
32:08
hugelightwallintothe
32:09
designwithavarietyof
32:11
aliencreatureslikeabitliketheStarwarscantina.Tohelpwiththis,Rick
32:17
Bakeractually
32:18
subcontractedsomeofthealiencreationworktoSteveJohnson,BartMixonandKMBEffectstomakeadditionalcreaturesfortheheadquarterscheckinarea.TheteammadesevenextraaliensforthatsceneincludingthetwinsandthereasonBakerneededto
32:34
subcontractwasdueto
32:36
all
32:36
theworktheyputinto
32:37
thehugeanimatronicEdgarBug
32:40
which
32:40
asImentionedwas
32:41
neverused.TheventilationtoweroftheBrooklynBatteryTunnelwhich
32:46
connectsManhattanwithBrooklynwasusedasthe
32:48
nowiconic
32:49
entrancetoMIBHQforthethirdactwhere
32:53
AJUDKandJracedthroughthe
32:56
Queen'smidtowntunnelin
32:57
theirFordLtdwasanexact96footreplica,1/8thesize
33:02
oftheoriginalstructure,whichwasauthenticdown
33:06
tothe
33:06
graffiti.Thecarsinthattunnelwere18incheslongandwerephotographically
33:12
real.TommyLee
33:13
JonesandWillSmithwerefilmedonabluescreeninarealcarcockpitthatwasreallyflippedupside
33:19
downandthecarwasreplacedwithaCGcarinthemovie.Designingtheiconicblacksuitswascostume
33:26
designerMary
33:27
E.VoightwhohasappearedonthispodcastbeforeforherworkonBatmanReturns
33:31
andHocusPocus.SheborrowedthecurveofashoulderfromCaryGrantandthecutof
33:37
thewaistfromMarcellomastroiani
33:39
fortheskinny60sstylesuitsinspiredbynorthbyNorthwest
33:43
andthe
33:43
Dolce
33:44
Vita.The
33:45
suitsarebespokeand
33:46
notavailable
33:47
tobuy,unliketheRayBans,which
33:49
Voightgot
33:50
off
33:50
therack.
33:52
SanFranciscometalwork
33:53
artistHeidi
33:54
Nassercreated
33:55
theglobeshapedOrion'sbelt
33:57
pendantwornbyOrionthecat,and
33:59
shecreatedfour
34:00
ofthe
34:01
pendantsforthemovie.Filming
34:03
wouldconcludeonMeninBlack
34:05
in
34:05
July1996.Testscreeningswouldleadtotheendingbeingaltered,thoughinitiallythere
34:13
weretwowarring
34:14
alienraces
34:15
battlingeach
34:15
otheronopposite
34:16
sides
34:17
oftheEarth,withEarthcaughtinthecrossfire.Testaudienceswereconfused
34:21
bythetworaces,theArquillians
34:24
andtheBaltians.Andsoitbecameonealienracecoming
34:28
toEarthtoretrieve
34:29
thegalaxyfromOrion'sbelt.AndmuchofthechangewasfacilitatedsimplybyeditingandmostlybyFrankthepug.Frankwasyet
34:40
tobeanimated,andsotheexpositionalpartofthescriptwaschangedandFrankdeliveredthe
34:45
newplot.
34:46
Withnotmuchotherchangehavingtobedone,saveforafewADRline
34:51
reads,changingsomesubtitlesto
34:53
theArquillians
34:54
meetingand
34:55
removingextrascenes.Allof
34:58
thesechanges
34:58
werefinishedwithonlytwoweeksof
35:00
postproductionleft.Frank
35:03
wasalsoachallenge
35:04
in
35:04
himself,
35:05
beingbothareal
35:06
pugand
35:06
havingtohave
35:07
aCGmouth.Inatechniqueperfected
35:10
bythefilmBabe.Oneoftheteamat
35:12
ILMhadapug
35:13
whichtheybroughtinto
35:14
thestudio
35:15
andtheystudiedthedog'smouth,teethandjowls.Andthisledtothem
35:19
beingabletomodelaPUGmouthandmarrythepracticalandCGmouth,theFrank,which
35:25
stilllooksgreattothisday.Andnocockroacheswerehurtduringfilming.WillSmithwasactuallycrushing
35:32
mustardpackets.Attheendof
35:34
theday,theywouldactuallycountall
35:36
ofthecockroachesandmakesurenone
35:38
weremissing.Becauseit'snotonly
35:40
alienbugs
35:41
thatcareaboutinsectson
35:43
Earth.Andthisisprobablythe
35:45
besttime
35:46
tosegueinto
35:47
theobliqueGIKeanureferenceofthisepisode.
35:50
Andif
35:50
you'renewhereandyoudon't
35:51
knowwhatthat
35:51
is,it's
35:52
whereI
35:52
tryandlinkeverymoviethat
35:54
IfeaturewithKeanu
35:55
Reeves.
35:56
And
35:56
thisisareallysimple
35:57
to
35:57
MIBHQ
35:58
for
35:58
the
35:59
third
35:59
act
35:59
where
36:00
agents
36:00
K
36:00
and
36:00
J
36:01
raced
36:01
wroteBillandTedandwhostarsinBillandTedKeanu
36:05
Reeves.I
36:06
knowthatIuse
36:07
thatalotbecauseI
36:08
featuredalot
36:09
of
36:09
EdSolomonwrittenmoviesonthispodcast,butit's
36:12
such
36:12
an
36:12
easyconnectiontomake.Andhey,Ed
36:15
Solomonhaswrittensome
36:16
reallygreatfilms.Soalotwashappeningin
36:19
postproductiononthismovietocompletelychangeit
36:23
andmakeitvery
36:24
different
36:24
tothemovie.
36:25
That
36:25
theyactuallymade.AnotherthingthathappenedinpostproductiononthismoviewasthesongbyWill
36:32
Smith,because
36:33
Ithink
36:33
WillSmithis
36:34
kindofknown
36:35
nowadays
36:36
Mary
36:36
E.
36:36
Vogt
36:37
who
36:37
has
36:38
appeared
36:38
on
36:38
this
36:39
buthewasactuallyneveraskedtowriteorperformathemesongfor
36:42
MeninBlackuntilpostproduction.
36:45
Thesongandits
36:46
accompanyingmusicvideowerehuge
36:49
hits,with
36:49
thevideodirectedbyRobert
36:51
Carusoandalsofeaturingthealien
36:54
Mikeyfromthemovie.ThesongheavilysamplesForgetMenot
36:58
byPatrice
36:58
Rushen.Forthemoviescore,SonnenfeldwenttoMark
37:02
Shaiman
37:03
first
37:04
which
37:04
Vogt
37:04
got
37:05
off
37:05
the
37:05
Addams
37:06
FamilyandAddamsFamilyValues,buthewasn'tavailable,so
37:09
hewenttoDannyElfman.Elfmanwas
37:12
working
37:12
onthesetofthe
37:13
FrightenerswithPeterJacksonwhenVincentd',Onofrio,
37:16
who
37:17
wasshootingMen
37:17
inBlackontheother
37:19
set,invitedboth
37:20
mentowatch
37:21
himperformthefinalscene.Thatevening,Elfmangota
37:25
callfrom
37:25
hisagentsayingthathe'd
37:27
been
37:27
hiredtocomposethe
37:28
music
37:28
forthefilm.Thefirst
37:30
piecesofmusicElfmanwrote
37:32
didn't
37:32
feel
37:32
quite
37:33
right,
37:33
andSonnenfeldsuggested
37:35
adifferentdirection.The
37:36
nexttimeSonnenfeldvisitedElfman's
37:39
studio,
37:39
theschool
37:40
was
37:40
perfect.NowI
37:42
amunfortunatelyoldenough
37:44
toremember1997and
37:46
toremember
37:47
MeninBlackseeminglycomingfromnowheretobecomingoneofthebiggestbox
37:51
officehits
37:52
oftheyear.
37:53
AndyouwouldthinkthatStevenSpielberg,whoobviously
37:56
producedthismovieunderAmblingEntertainment,knowsathing
37:59
ortwoaboutmarketing
38:00
movieswithaliens.ThinkE.T.withitsReese'sPieces,whichwasnever
38:05
meanttohappen,
38:06
but
38:06
that'sastoryforafutureETEpisode,Iguess.But
38:09
foraMeninBlackmovie,the
38:12
marketingwasquitelimitedactually.It
38:15
includedtheiconicRayBanPredator
38:18
2sunglasses,
38:19
whichmeantamarketingtieinfor
38:20
Ray
38:21
Ban.
38:22
Butthiswasanaggressivesummerblockbusterseason
38:24
thatincludedmanypreviousepisodesofthispodcast,including
38:28
theLostWorld,JurassicPark,BatmanandRobin,
38:31
Disney'sHercules,and
38:33
AustinPowers
38:33
InternationalmanofMystery.ButdespiteColumbia
38:37
TriStar's
38:38
accountdirector
38:39
atSaatchiMikeCohensayingthatMen
38:41
inBlackwastheperfectcrossoverfilm,thatitappealedtoall
38:45
sectionsofsociety.
38:46
Itprovedpopularwith
38:48
menandwomenofallagesaswellaswiththeallimportantfamilies
38:52
withchildrenaudience,andprovingpopularinareas
38:55
withlargeblackcommunities,MeninBlackwasnot
38:59
thetopofthelistofsummerblockbusterswhenitcameto
39:02
companiesputtingtogethertheirmarketingpackages.MeninBlackwasseenasabit
39:07
of
39:07
agamble
39:07
intheindustry,withveryfewproductplacementdealswithin
39:11
themovieitself.Itwasseenas
39:14
moreofa
39:15
minorsummerhitandwaspassed
39:17
over
39:17
bymostmarketersinfavorofthebigfranchisemovies
39:21
likethe
39:21
Lost
39:22
World
39:22
andBatmanand
39:23
Robin.Butonthestrengthofaverypopular
39:25
traileranda
39:26
positivereactionfromcinemaowners,thebuzz
39:30
overMenin
39:31
Blackgrewandmarketers
39:32
becameinterested.Two
39:34
monthsbeforeMenin
39:35
Blackcame
39:36
out,a$5
39:37
to$10millionadcampaign
39:39
featuringWill
39:40
Smithwiththe
39:41
worldfamousRayBanssaying,
39:43
Imakethis
39:44
look
39:44
good,alongwithaHeadand
39:46
shouldersad.Gottakeep
39:47
those
39:47
blacksuitsblackafterall.Butthat
39:51
marketingcampaign
39:52
withthe
39:53
RayBanskeptRayBanstoressoldout.Youevengot
39:56
afreeblackMIB
39:58
baseballcapwithyourpurchase.RayBan'ssalestripledthatyearto$5million,purely
40:05
thanksto
40:06
being
40:06
involvedinMen
40:07
inBlackwhenveryfewothercompanies
40:10
wereinvolvedinMen
40:11
inBlack.
40:12
Of
40:13
course,thebestmarketingforthemoviewaslikelythe
40:16
factthat
40:16
twoweeks
40:16
beforefilmingonMeninBlackended,IndependenceDay
40:20
was
40:20
releasedandWill
40:21
Smith
40:22
becameabonafidemoviestar.
40:25
MeninBlackwasreleasedon
40:27
2July
40:28
1997inthat
40:30
crowdedsummerblockbuster
40:31
season.Initsfirstweekofrelease,Disney'sHerculeswasnumberone.Faceoff,
40:36
anothernewentry,
40:37
was
40:37
secondandMenin
40:39
Blackdebutedthird.It
40:41
had
40:41
technically
40:41
only
40:42
beenout
40:42
onedaythoughin
40:43
thatweek,
40:44
because
40:44
thefiguresrunfrom27Junetoto3July,anditcameout
40:48
on
40:48
thesecond.Thatsecondweek,MeninBlackshottonumber
40:52
one,comfortablyoutperformingfaceoffandHercules.Itwouldstayatnumberoneforfourweeksbeforebeing
40:58
dethronedbyAirForceOneand
41:00
George
41:01
the
41:01
Jungle.MeninBlackwould
41:03
Jackson
41:03
when
41:04
Vincent
41:05
d'Onofrio,
41:06
who
41:07
was
41:08
budget.Menin
41:09
Blackwenton
41:10
togross$250.7milliondomesticallyand339millioninternationally,foratotalworldwidegrossof$589.3million,becomingthethird
41:23
highestgrossingmovieof1997worldwide,behind
41:27
Titanicandthe
41:28
LostWorldJurassicPark.Atthetime,
41:32
MeninBlackhadthethirdhighestopeningweekendofalltimebehindBatmanForeverattheLostWorld,
41:37
Jurassic
41:37
park
41:38
andhadthebiggestboxofficein
41:40
Sony'shistoryuntil
41:42
Spidermancame
41:43
out
41:43
in2002.Interestingly,despitebeinghugelysuccessfulandthestartof
41:49
alucrativefranchise,it
41:51
seemsthatHollywoodaccountingisresponsibleforMeninBlack
41:56
notactually
41:57
making
41:57
aprofitfor
41:58
the
41:58
studiodespitegrossing$589.3million.HollywoodaccountingissomethingthatI'vespokenaboutafewtimesonthispodcast,andI
42:09
guesswe'llneverknowwherethatmoneywent,butifyoulookatthefigures,youcan'thelpbut
42:15
seethiswasafinanciallysuccessful
42:17
movie.Critically,itwas
42:20
alsoincrediblysuccessful.Ithas
42:22
a91%onrottentomatoes,saying,thankstoasmartscript,spectacularsetpiecesandcharismatic
42:29
performancesfromitsleads,MeninBlackisanentirely
42:32
satisfyingsummerblockbusterhit.Allofthatis
42:36
true.Men
42:37
in
42:37
BlackwonBestmakeupatthe70thAcademyAwardsandwasalso
42:41
nominatedforBestOriginalMusicalorComedy
42:44
ScoreandBestArtDirectionattheAcademyAwards,butitlostthosetotheFullMontyandTitanic,respectively.
42:52
ItwasalsonominatedforBestMotionPicture,MusicalorComedyatthe55thGolden
42:57
GlobeAwards,losingtoasGoodasIt
43:00
Gets.AnditwasalsonominatedforBestSpecial
43:02
Effectsat
43:03
thebaftas,
43:04
butitlostthattothe
43:05
FifthElement.It,ofcourse,hasseveralsequels,Menin
43:09
Blacktwo,
43:09
MeninBlackthreeandMeninBlackInternational.Therewasalso
43:13
ananimatedseriesaswellforabuddycoptrilogy.Youcan'treallygowrong
43:18
withMeninBlack,Men
43:19
inBlack2andMenin
43:20
Black3.
43:21
Ican't
43:21
say
43:21
I'ma
43:21
hugefanof
43:22
international.2and3aregoodfun,though,andsurprisinglypoignantandemotional,especiallyMenin
43:28
Black
43:29
three.Andonce
43:30
uponatime,theInternetwasreportingonapotentialsequelcalledMIB23.Thiswas
43:37
anidea
43:38
fromPhilLordandChristopherMiller,
43:40
twopeople
43:40
whoIamincredibly
43:42
fondof.
43:42
Ithink
43:42
they
43:42
makegreatmoviesandtheyhadthis
43:44
ideafor
43:45
abigscreencrossoverbetweenMeninBlack
43:48
and
43:48
21Jump
43:49
street,whichwas
43:50
officiallynamed
43:51
MIB23.Itwasalotclosertohappeningthanyoumightthink.Itactuallydebutedan
43:58
official
43:58
logo
43:59
atCinemaConin2016,but
44:01
itwascancelledfivemonthsprior
44:03
tothereleaseofMen
44:04
inBlackInternational.It'salwaysgoingtobeoneof
44:07
thosewhatifs.WhatifwecouldhavehadTommy
44:10
LeeJones,WillSmith,JonahHilland
44:13
ChanningTatumtogetheronscreen?Itwouldhavebeenkindofepic,
44:18
butunfortunately,oneof
44:20
those
44:20
it'snevergoingto
44:21
happen.MeninBlackstoodatthe
44:23
precipiceofcg,withitswonderful
44:25
makeup
44:26
andprosthetics
44:27
andpracticaleffects,puton
44:30
apairofRayBansunglassesandsaidto
44:32
the
44:32
industry,youknowwhatthedifferenceis
44:35
betweenyouandme?Imakethis
44:37
lookgoodandboy
44:39
doesit.It'samoviethatwasnever
44:42
destinedtobeahugemegasummerblockbuster,
44:45
despite
44:46
havingalltheingredients.Itsoperfectly
44:49
blendsJonesandSmith,
44:51
scifiandcomedyandpractical
44:53
andCGeffects.Somuchsothatallof
44:56
themjustwork
44:57
exceedinglywell.
44:59
Fromtheveryfirstutteringofillegal
45:01
alienswhohappen
45:02
to
45:03
beagroupofundocumentedMexicans,youthinkyou'reinforthetypicaltreatmentminorities
45:07
get.Itperfectlyestablishes
45:10
thecharacterofK,theexperiencedagentwith
45:13
aveteranpartner,
45:14
treatingtheborder
45:15
crosses
45:16
notwithhostility
45:17
orcontempt,butwithdignity
45:19
andrespect,reassuring
45:20
themandinvitingthemintotheUnited
45:23
States.
45:24
And
45:24
even
45:24
whenheunmasks
45:25
Mikeyas
45:26
analienindisguise,
45:27
violatinghis
45:28
parole,hestilltreatshimwithrespectuntilMikeytriestoattackoneof
45:33
theotherofficers.Menin
45:36
Black'spremisethattheEarthisthesanctuaryformanydifferent
45:38
alienracesandNewYorkis
45:41
thehub
45:41
ofalienactivityhitsthegroundrunning.A
45:44
bitlikeNYPDofficerJamesEdwards,whochases
45:47
downanalien
45:48
masqueradingasa
45:49
humanin
45:50
the
45:50
city,usinghis
45:51
initiativetohunthimdownbeforehewarnsofanincomingthreatandthenjumpsoffahighrise
45:56
building.MeninBlackcameatthattimeinthemid-90swhen
46:01
CGwasbecominghigh
46:03
budgetgenrefilmmaking'sbackbone.AndthereasonMeninBlackworks.OneofthemanyreasonsisthatthismovieusesCG
46:11
to
46:11
enhanceitspractical
46:12
effects,notreplacingthemcompletely.
46:15
Manyof
46:16
thealiencreatures
46:17
are
46:17
thereonsetinreallife
46:19
andbroughtto
46:20
lifeinsucha
46:21
way
46:21
thattheyfeelcompletelyrealinthatspace.RevisitingthismovieyearsafterI'dlastseenit,withpodcasteyes
46:29
ratherthan
46:29
regular
46:30
eyes,
46:30
they'redifferent.I'mblown
46:32
awaybyhowgenuinely,andI
46:34
reallymean
46:35
this,genuinely
46:36
underrated
46:37
thismovie
46:38
isinsomanyways.
46:40
Wedon'ttalkabout
46:41
itasmuchaswedo
46:42
sayJurassicpark,butweshould.VisualeffectsWiseisoneofthegreatestexamplesof90s
46:49
practicalandCGmix
46:50
whereyougenuinelycan't
46:52
tellthedifference
46:52
formuchofthemovie,and
46:54
despitethelastminutescriptchanges,the
46:57
moviefeelsperfectlypacedall
46:59
the
47:00
wayuptothefinaleanddeliverseverythingyouexpect
47:03
fromasummerblockbuster.Theperformancesare
47:06
pitchperfectfromWillSmithandTommyLeeJones,instant
47:09
chemistry,abuddycop
47:11
pairingthatfeelslikeoneofthebesteverput
47:13
toscreen,andVincent
47:15
d'
47:15
Onofrio'sincredibleandunderpraisedperformanceasEdgar.It'snotasurprisethatmany
47:20
ofthis
47:21
movie'smostmemorablemomentsandcreations,theWorms
47:25
and
47:25
Frankthe
47:25
Pug,weregiven
47:26
more
47:26
todoinMeninBlack
47:28
2aswellas
47:29
bringingbackTommyLeeJonesbecauseifitain'tbroke,don'tfix
47:32
it.EdSolomon'sscript
47:35
ismorethan
47:36
justyourgenericscificomedy.It'ssurprisinglypoignantandmovinginparts.Therealizationthatmaybe
47:43
we
47:43
aren'taloneintheuniverseandwhatthatmeansforhumanity,butalso
47:48
how
47:48
to
47:48
behuman,
47:49
howtobehumane,andhowtobeacceptingofothers
47:52
whoneed
47:53
help.A
47:54
lotofhumansin2025could
47:56
learnathingortwoaboutthatfromthismovie,butalsothatoriginalscriptwould
48:02
havemadethismovieso
48:03
different.Wehavenowayof
48:05
knowinghowtheoriginaltestscreened
48:07
editwouldhave
48:07
playedout,butlikelyitwouldhavebeena
48:10
muchlongermoviewithmorealienpoliticsandsci
48:13
fibattles,
48:14
withprobablyless
48:15
ofthehumancomponentbetweenJandK.We'll
48:18
never
48:18
knowforsure,ofcourse,butitwouldhavebeendifferent.
48:21
And
48:21
onetestscreening,aswe'velearnedbeforeonthispodcast,canmakeorbreakamovie.ItmadeMeninBlackit'shardnottofeel
48:31
sorryforRickBaker.Designshespentmonths
48:34
buildingandperfectedendedupscrapped.Butthe
48:37
designsthatareherearesoperfectlyrealizedandaresogoodthatoftenyoucan'ttellwherethepractical
48:43
endsandtheCGbegins.Histeam
48:46
usedeverymethodavailable
48:48
prosthetics,rubbersuits,animatronics,andhugemechanicalpuppets.
48:52
Itstilllooksgreat,anditwillcontinuetolook
48:55
great.1500yearsago,
48:58
everybodyknewthe
48:59
Earthwasthecenteroftheuniverse.500yearsago
49:03
everybodyknewtheearthwas
49:05
flat.And15
49:07
minutesagoyouknewthatpeople
49:09
were
49:09
aloneonthisplanet.
49:11
Imaginewhatyou'll
49:12
know
49:12
tomorrowis
49:14
oneof
49:14
myfavoritelines.Justbecausesomethingisnowdoesn't
49:17
meanitwillalwaysbe
49:18
thatway.
49:20
Scienceistheevidenceofthetime,abestguessthatcouldallchangeinfuture.Whoknows
49:26
what
49:26
wewilldiscover?MeninBlackdeservestobepraisedformorethantheWill
49:31
Smithsong.That'sreally
49:33
catchy.ItdeservesmoreofalegacythantwookaysequelsandMen
49:37
inBlack
49:37
International,asubparvideogame,and
49:40
aUniversalOrlandoride,which
49:42
openedtofanfarein2000
49:44
and
49:44
was
49:45
the
49:45
mostambitiousinregardstoanimatronicattractionsatUniversal,featuringover25animatronicaliensthatyoushootwithlaserguns.Which
49:53
I'lladmitisprettycool,butthismovie
49:56
alwaysfeltlikeit
49:57
deservedmorelove
49:58
thanit
49:58
evergot.Nowit'stimewegiveitthat
50:01
love.Men
50:02
in
50:02
Blackis
50:02
what
50:03
sci
50:03
fi
50:03
comediesofthe2000swanttobe.Ihope
50:07
wenevergetneuralizedintoforgettingabout
50:09
thismoviecompletely,
50:10
butmaybethat'swhyit'snotas
50:13
fondlyremembered.Maybethereal
50:15
Men
50:15
inBlackaretryingtoget
50:17
usalltocollectively
50:18
forgetdoesintelligent
50:22
lifeexistintheuniverse?
50:24
Maybethere'smoretotheuniversethanjustus.Maybeweall
50:29
justneedto
50:29
Stopand
50:30
lookatthestars.Thankyouforlistening.Asalways.Iwouldlovetohear
50:35
yourthoughtsonMenin
50:36
Blackand
50:37
thankyouforyourcontinuedsupportof
50:39
this
50:39
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50:41
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50:55
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51:03
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51:04
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51:06
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51:06
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51:07
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51:07
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51:09
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51:12
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51:19
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51:22
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52:02
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54:00
therewas
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noepisode,
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andcertainlynotonetalkingabout
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aliensormeninBlack.
54:05
Yourpodcastappwasbrieflyaffectedbyswampgasfrom
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aweatherballoontrappedina
54:09
thermalpocketreflecting
54:10
thelightfromVenus.
6:59
Andfinallyat
6:59
at/yX
55:21
Bye.