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Furness Show 4-6: Mollywhop Monday with Chris Crawford and Nathan Bishop! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: what always happens. WNBA Chicago Sky I've traded two time.
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  Speaker 2: God she's an All Star twice. Angel Reese found well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: cherry picking your own rebounds to the Atlanta Dream twenty
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  Speaker 2: pick as well.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go. I'm gonna this is okay.
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  Speaker 2: All joking aside with the baseball team for a second.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you can be in sports radio
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  Speaker 2: and in a major league market with a major league
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  Speaker 2: baseball team and you know not if they play three
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  Speaker 2: games over the leakend. When you're playing, not discuss it.
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  Speaker 2: I know people sometimes they'll get, oh, baseball guy's gonna
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  Speaker 2: get Oh, you can't talk about it too early. No,
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  Speaker 2: you could talk about stuff. I mean, one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 2: you can talk about stuff. I mean, listen, we're watching
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  Speaker 2: the game yesterday during Easter, and you know.
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  Speaker 3: We got a lot.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter's got a lot to say about the game.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's the beautiful thing about sports. You can react
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  Speaker 2: to what you see. Yes, you can't react to looking
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  Speaker 2: ahead necessarily, but you can react to what you see.
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  Speaker 4: And we're not drawing conclusions on the whole sell.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I always feel like we have to do
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  Speaker 2: these weird disclaimers now. And it's like, if you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to watch baseball till August, then that's you.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't want to talk about it till August,
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  Speaker 2: then that's fine. Go listen to news talk or something
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a really pleasant place to be these days.
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  Speaker 2: You can have all kinds of fun and two of that,
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  Speaker 2: or you can talk about the baseball team and because
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  Speaker 2: there's some good stuff to talk about. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: put Cooley Young in that category would we not yestely like,
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  Speaker 2: because here's the thing we can talk about the bad
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  Speaker 2: and the bad would be the starts of nailor the
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  Speaker 2: starts of Cal the starts of Julio. Although Julio's a
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  Speaker 2: weird one. He's got two RBI's and both of those
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  Speaker 2: were big rbi.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, game tying to strike in the n but he's
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  Speaker 5: done nothing else, nothing else, like nothing else, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Brendan Donovan's a little dinged up, can't play
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  Speaker 2: defense at least where they had him at at third base,
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  Speaker 2: but he can hit the dudes.
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  Speaker 3: The dude can rank man. That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know it's a limited sample size, but don
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  Speaker 2: Can Zone's been fine for you so far. Cole Young
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  Speaker 2: has been a revelation. He's been fantastic. Luke Rayley's bouncing back, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I mean average isn't there. We got a little pop
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  Speaker 2: to his bat with three home runs, and then you
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  Speaker 2: get into everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: So uh, there's lot of to discuss.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, the pitching staff as well, so we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: that coming up with the Mullywop guys coming up here.
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  Speaker 2: And just because I think it's interesting, the three, I
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  Speaker 2: mean they were. You know, I had to look back
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  Speaker 2: because I was like, God, it feels like they've played
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  Speaker 2: a lot of extra inning games, right, and Andrew's just
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  Speaker 2: just off the top of your head. How many extra
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  Speaker 2: games you think they played last.
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  Speaker 4: Year, last year, last year.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm gonna say twelve, okay, Jess I said five.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So they've already played three this season, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: right there, and they're a one and two and in
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  Speaker 2: extra innings this season. They won at home again or
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  Speaker 2: they went on the road Friday, sorry, against the Angels
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  Speaker 2: three to one. They lost yesterday the Angels obviously, and
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  Speaker 2: then they lost at home to Cleveland in ten innings
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday, the twenty eighth, the first Saturday of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, they played twenty one extra twenty one. They
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  Speaker 2: played twenty one extra inning games last season. They were
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  Speaker 2: ten and eleven in extra innings last season, so they
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  Speaker 2: had ten wins in extra innings. They also had eleven
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, so they're just a little below five
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  Speaker 2: hundred in extra innings, which probably makes sense the way
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  Speaker 2: it's set up in baseball with the ghost with the
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  Speaker 2: ghost runner.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not the.
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  Speaker 4: Home team has such an advantage in extra innings.
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  Speaker 3: Massive advantage, right, massive?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, people, but Seattle has its one win
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  Speaker 2: on the road, and it does have a loss at
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  Speaker 2: home this year or three ten any losses. So I
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  Speaker 2: think it just depends on how you've used your bullpen
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  Speaker 2: at that point, right, how you deploy that is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because then you get to go by the
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  Speaker 2: time you get to the tenth inning, you've probably used
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  Speaker 2: your closer. You know, maybe at that point you've probably
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  Speaker 2: used your high leverage setup guy at that point, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and that type of thing. But yeah, they played twenty
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  Speaker 2: one last season. I think they're already I mean, just
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  Speaker 2: looking at the durn numbers, are probably on pace to
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  Speaker 2: do that again this season.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot of ext training games.
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  Speaker 2: The abs stuff we'll talk about with the guys. I
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  Speaker 2: won't even give it away, but there's an incredible stat
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  Speaker 2: I'll just tell you that.
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  Speaker 3: Let Nathan bring it up. That's Nathan stat.
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  Speaker 2: They're not gonna want to miss the the a the
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  Speaker 2: call challenge staff that he's got coming up.
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  Speaker 3: It's great, it's sensational.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll do that coming up to two o'clock today,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna hit on something that I really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: talk about and I'm glad we have time today today
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  Speaker 2: to do it because there was a great six seven
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  Speaker 2: minutes yesterday on ESPN. Don't say those words too often
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  Speaker 2: these days, but there were a great six or seven
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  Speaker 2: minutes on ESPN yesterday talking about college basketball and the
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  Speaker 2: state of the game. And I think you could kind
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  Speaker 2: of translate some of it into college football too. But
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  Speaker 2: Jay Billis, Jay Williams, John Calipari, and Seth Davis, Seth
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  Speaker 2: Greenberg and Rees Davis were all on the set and
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  Speaker 2: they had a great conversation. We're gonna play that and
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  Speaker 2: react to it because you know, we went off the
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  Speaker 2: year on Friday, and shortly thereafter found out Zoom Diallo
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  Speaker 2: is entering the transfer portal for Washington. They already had
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  Speaker 2: lost Maniquitt earlier in the day, two guys that are
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  Speaker 2: really counting on next season, and then I'm looking around
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  Speaker 2: today and this is not a U Dub thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we've lost everybody on Pullman too. You just rebuild a
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  Speaker 2: roster every year. That's what teams are doing.
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  Speaker 3: But like big.
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  Speaker 2: Programs, programs that were you know, Sweet sixteen, Elite eights
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  Speaker 2: and potential Final four teams losing guys, Arkansas one of
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  Speaker 2: their best players, Kansas losing a starting player, and going
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  Speaker 2: to the portal like it's.
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  Speaker 3: Just this weird wild West.
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  Speaker 2: But on the eve, you know, on the day of
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  Speaker 2: the National Championship game, we're gonna touch based on that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit and talk about what we're gonna see
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  Speaker 2: and and and where it is, because I just I
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  Speaker 2: there's some things that just as a college sports fan
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  Speaker 2: frustrate me. I had this conversation on Friday with I
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  Speaker 2: do like a little Friday Happy I with a couple
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  Speaker 2: buddies in Maple Valley and we were out. I was
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  Speaker 2: talking about it with my buddy Dee Henny and and like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just not.
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  Speaker 3: The guy and this is gonna be bad.
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  Speaker 2: And Jess if our friends at Wazoo and the Collective
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  Speaker 2: and goog Fan, all these guys get mad, They're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get mad. I just can't fathom writing a big check
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  Speaker 2: or anything for these for these athletes, for Niel And
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  Speaker 2: I know it's like that maybe that makes me a
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  Speaker 2: bad fan or I can't be a fan if I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to check, because like if I wrote a
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  Speaker 2: check this year, and again, I'm not picking on Washington.
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  Speaker 2: But I think they're a better example than our school
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  Speaker 2: because their budget was higher. Yeah, if you wrote a
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  Speaker 2: check to Montlake Futures or whatever the collect how are
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  Speaker 2: they work it nowadays? And you paid for Zoom Diallo
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  Speaker 2: or helped pay for Hannes Steinbach or whoever it be,
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  Speaker 2: Big Frank, you know he plays once or twice a year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean if you if you did that, what was
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  Speaker 2: the return on investment? Yeah, you got you won one
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  Speaker 2: game in the Big ten tournament and you didn't get
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  Speaker 2: to the n t much less the NCAA tournament.
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  Speaker 3: You know, last year a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Was made about how they had great osa bor was
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  Speaker 2: getting close to a million dollars and even if it
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  Speaker 2: was getting half of that, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: They finished last in the Big ten.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I see our guys aren't well lazoo guys
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  Speaker 2: aren't making a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Look, maybe you get what you pay for, but good
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  Speaker 2: like to do what to get beat by Seattle? You you know,
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  Speaker 2: to get knocked out in the first round of the
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  Speaker 2: WCC tournament, Like what are we paying for?
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  Speaker 3: What is your return on investment?
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  Speaker 2: And because and the bigger problem I have with it
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  Speaker 2: is like this year, Like, if there's a return on investment,
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  Speaker 2: it should be that the guy has to stick around.
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  Speaker 3: For more than a year. I agree, that's the problem
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  Speaker 3: I see with it.
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  Speaker 2: If if I'm a fan, I don't want to pay
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  Speaker 2: for a guy to come in and be a higher
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  Speaker 2: gun and then he decides, well, grass is greener. Lawan
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  Speaker 2: Watts played at WAZU last year. Good player team obviously
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  Speaker 2: didn't get to the tournament and they kind of fell
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  Speaker 2: apart at the end. But the team last year, David
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  Speaker 2: Riley's first year was better than this year's team. But
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  Speaker 2: Lawan Wats good player, started his career at Eastern Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Eastern Washington for a year, coach goes to WAZU, so
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  Speaker 2: he follows in there.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I guess it makes sense that happens, right.
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  Speaker 2: Guys do that goes to WAZU for a year, has
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  Speaker 2: a good season. Texas Tech pays him a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: money to go down there and play with with Toppin. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: he got hurt, so they didn't go as deep as
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  Speaker 2: they thought they would This year at Texas Tech that
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  Speaker 2: could have been a potential Final four team without before
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  Speaker 2: they lost Topping. But he goes there three teams in
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  Speaker 2: three years. He just put his name in the portal.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna be playing four teams in four years.
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  Speaker 4: Like, how do you even that's not a team?
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  Speaker 3: And would you and what you pay for? You paid
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  Speaker 3: for a guy to go there for one year? I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I'm old man yelling at clouds. I get that.
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  Speaker 6: No, that's not that's like, I'm sorry, I'm I was
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  Speaker 6: an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I just think it's really a hard team.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and the push now is to limit transfers, right,
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  Speaker 2: I don't mind. If you're gonna pay guys, good, get
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  Speaker 2: these kids what they're worth, Like if they're making, if
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  Speaker 2: they're generating money for a school, then pay them what
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  Speaker 2: they're worth. That's great, pay them what they're worth. But
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  Speaker 2: also there should be some sort of penalty if you leave,
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  Speaker 2: because and that was that way forever. And when people
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  Speaker 2: say coaches can do it, I agree, But guess what happens.
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  Speaker 2: A coach has to pay a buyout if he leaves, right,
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  Speaker 2: so you lose your coach. There's a buyout involved. The
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  Speaker 2: school benefits from that, right, at least financially, the player
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  Speaker 2: can just come and go collect his hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: is five hundred thousand dollars and leave. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: think that that is First of all, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's sustainable. I think that's the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 7: There's the way it's like, do we have to go
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  Speaker 7: into the crevas to climb ourselves back out with this one?
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's we'll take a break, come back, Mollywop
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  Speaker 2: guys standing by Nathan Gris, will look at the Mariners
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  Speaker 2: first week and a half or so of the season
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  Speaker 2: that's coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday, then that means one thing. It's time to
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  Speaker 1: Now with the Mollywop boys, Nathan Bishop and Chris Crawford
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  Speaker 1: with my oh why here's Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 3: All right, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: it's a they call it a soft launch. It was
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  Speaker 2: a soft launch last week. So we're just some things
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  Speaker 2: are working on. So yeah, that's coming up in a
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  Speaker 3: So that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Along the way, all right, the week that was not great,
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  Speaker 2: Yankees Angels. But we always start off with opening statements.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna change it up today because I like is
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  Speaker 2: what he's going with, Radick Bonk. I'm not read the
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  Speaker 2: IM gonna read the rest of it all. If Rodick
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  Speaker 2: Radick Bank, if your horny, it says right there, that's
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  Speaker 7: Chris Craft was a nice little player for a little while.
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  Speaker 3: Very much.
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  Speaker 8: Just for the record, I.
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  Speaker 7: High missus Bishop, sorry about that. Yeah, this was a
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  Speaker 7: frustrating week. And here's the thing. It's easier in baseball
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  Speaker 7: to have confirmation bias than any other sport, right because
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  Speaker 7: whatever you want to think about a team, if a
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  Speaker 7: player gets off to a slow start, especially in a
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  Speaker 7: sport like baseball where you fail seventy to if you're
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  Speaker 7: very very good sixty percent of the time, it's really
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  Speaker 7: easy to say, oh, I told you this guy stinks, sir,
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  Speaker 7: Oh I told you this guy's really good based on
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  Speaker 7: a ten game sample as well, And that can be frustrating.
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  Speaker 7: And we have now last week I mentioned we played
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  Speaker 7: two point four percent of the season. Now we've played
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  Speaker 7: one sixteenth of a season, so we've basically played If
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  Speaker 7: you want to do the football analogy, we've basically played
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  Speaker 7: one football game and it wasn't a very good football game.
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  Speaker 7: It was a football game that I would be disappointed in.
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  Speaker 7: But it is just one football game, and there are
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  Speaker 7: some positives to take I think the starting pitching, outside
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  Speaker 7: of maybe two starts out of the ten, has been outstanding. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I've been really impressed with the bullpen. I've been really
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  Speaker 7: impressed with Cole Young for the most part. There are
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  Speaker 7: positives to take away, but this is another slow start.
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  Speaker 7: It's another year where I wanted them to get off hot.
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  Speaker 7: I wanted to see them get off to the start
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  Speaker 7: that makes you go, yeah, yeah, this is what we're
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  Speaker 7: talking about, and we're gonna do this all year and
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be dominance. But it's not that. It's another
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  Speaker 7: year where if you have too many four and sixes
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  Speaker 7: in your of these sixteen that they'll play, things can
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  Speaker 7: go real bad, real quick. I'm not saying it will,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not predicting it or anything like that, but it's
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  Speaker 7: disappointing that it happened again.
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  Speaker 8: Nathan, Oh, we're calling this a soft launch, right, and
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  Speaker 8: that what's going on right now?
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  Speaker 2: It's like, are you thinking, yeah, it's a soft launch, Yes, exactly,
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  Speaker 2: it's a soft launch.
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: I think people are probably pretty familiar with the phrase
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: inside each of you, there are two wolves. And when
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: I'm coming this opening statement, there are two wolves inside
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: of me, there's one that just wants to laugh because
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: I think it's funny how quickly this team is reminding
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: people that as fun as last season was, outside of
• 16:11
  Speaker 8: winning seventeen out of eighteen games down the stretch in September,
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: most of the year they were a pretty up and
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: down mediocre baseball team to watch day in and day out.
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: And it's funny to see that recalibrate so quickly. I
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: saw a media member here say that the floor for
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: this team was ninety five wins and that kind of
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: hyperbole before the season started. It's funny to see outsized
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: expectations and hype immediately run into the reality that is
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: the day and day out machinations of baseball. That said,
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: the other wolf man, the Mariners are fine. They're four
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: and six, they're two games out of first I just
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: drop in a little stat there's sixteenth in baseball and
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: home runs, which doesn't sound great except that you remember
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: that's like middle of the road and they've gotten exactly
• 16:57
  Speaker 8: zero home runs out of Julio Rodriguez, Josh Naylor, and
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: Cal Ray. I think they're gonna hit some home runs
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: this year, and then at that point this team is
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: quickly going to find it stride on offense. I think
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: that the foundations are in place for this to be
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: a pretty good offensive ball club. There are still I
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: already said, they're only two games out of first The
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: starting pitching, to Chris's point, has looked a lot more
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: like twenty twenty three twenty twenty four than it did
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty five, and that is hugely encouraging because that
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: is going to be the part of this team that
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: can make them a legitimately great team. So you know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: it's funny to watch them screw around. It's fun The
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: way they lost on Saturday night is one of the
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: most amazing baseball games I've ever seen in my life.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: I think it's one of the most amazing sporting things.
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: Watching Joe Adel rob three home runs in a one
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: to nothing win. I think that's like Tony Douks scoring
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: fifty points in an NBA game. But look, you want
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: to be upset about it, you can be upset about it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: Four and six stretches are no fun. The Angels suck.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: Losing a series to the Angels sucks. But they're fine, man,
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: Like it's ten games of baseball, be fine. The Seattle
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: Seahawks have lost so many games of the Arizona Cardinals
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: and it's fine. We just move on. You know, we've
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: got another week ahead of us with some better competition.
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: But the cool thing is when the next two weeks
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: of baseball they're playing some pretty good teams. The Mariners
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: are a better team than every single one of them,
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: So just go play better.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: By the way the couple things won the football analogy,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks did lose game one last year to the
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Saisco forty nine ers and came back that did Okay. Yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: so if we're gonna go with.
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: Something, Karee Wollan remembers that I think I.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Just remembers too much good stuff, too much good stuff.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: There a MPM I did have this week for folks
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: that we've talked about before. We do it on Zoom
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Slash streamyard, depending on what's working for our system that day.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So we see each other that the look on Chris's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: face when you mentioned what was it? Ninety five? Is
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the floor that was someone said that this.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Well, I'll talk to you during the commercial break about
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: who that guy is or a person is, because we
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: got to have a conversation.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you take ninety five right now as a floor
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: like I'd take it right now?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I take it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: It's the ceiling second most wins franchise history. Yeah, I'll
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: be the second most wins in franchise history if they
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: get I'd take that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I would take that right now.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the good for a second
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: before we get to the guys that aren't hitting. Uh, Chris,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: go back to you, Cole Flippin' Young. I just, I mean,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: what a cool thing to see. It looks like you
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: really you know who your second basement is for the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: foreseeable future. I know it's a short sample size, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: we saw flashes from him last year at times too,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like we did see that. And then there's a guy
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: named Polanco that ended up playing a little bit there
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: that was okay, But otherwise, I mean, we saw that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit last season. You know it's gonna come
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: up with cold Emerson here at some point. The middle
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of your infield looks to be pretty well set, Chris.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it does like that has a chance to be
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: a really special middle of the infield. Old And I've
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: been nothing but impressed with what I've seen Cole Young,
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: not just at the plant, but defensively. I've just taken
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: a look today out above average, he ranks in the
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: eighty seventh percent tile of all major league players this year.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: The defense has been good. He's not fun to watch throw.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: There are a lot of LOLLI gag adjacent throws because
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: the our strength isn't great. But boy, his range has
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: just been awesome. And what's really impressed me is just
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: how much better he's looked against left handed pitching. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: believe all of his home runs but all of the
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: two of them have come against left handed pitchers. So
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: that's been nice to see and be able to hang
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: in and wait for those breaking balls and picking up
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: the baseball. Well, I've been really impressed with what I've
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: seen from Cole Jung. And you know, it seems like
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: we just know is he as good a prospect as
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: Colt Emerson. Absolutely not. But that's more compliment to Emerson
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: than insult to Cole Young. Cole Jung was a top
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: fifty prospect when he got called up, and he has
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: a chance to be a well above average major league regular,
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: and those are special things to have. Cole Young is
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: a guy that you should be talking about a contract
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: extension with. It's not an insult to him. He's not
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: as good as Emerson. He's certainly going to be better
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: than JP Crawford, who is certainly in his last season
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: I think as a Seattle Mariner. And that's not even
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: an insult to Crawford. This is all about compliments to
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: Cole Young. I've been very impressed with him in these
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: first nine games ten games.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Sign him right now, Nate, sign him right now. Get that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Let's just let's wrap him up.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: I think, yeah, I think the thing with Young two
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: just to add on to that. And this is not
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: trying to doom doom cast Cole Emerson, who I love
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: and have loved since the second the Marion has drafted him.
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: But it's important to remember the just because a guy's
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: ranked higher on a prospect list doesn't mean he's going
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: to be a better major League baseball player. You think
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: back to college teammates Dustin Aclee and Kyle Seger, where
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: Dustin Actlee was the greatest college hitter of a decade,
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: the most can't miss bat that had come out of
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: the MLB draft in a long time. And then it
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: was his teammate Kyle Seger, the guy that nobody, everybody
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: thought was made be a UTL guy that ended up
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: having the you know, hall of a very good major
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: league career. So, you know, let these things play out.
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: There's no there's absolutely a scenario here where Cole Jung
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: ends up becoming the jewel of this class of guys
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: that the Mariners are in the middle of graduating of.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: It's it's awesome to see, man.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I like the comparison a lot, uh it just in
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: terms of what you just said, because yeah, Dustin Actley
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: was the you know, overwhelming number two pick and he's
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: going to be the guy and everything like that. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: then you know, like you said, Kyle Seger, his teammate
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: becomes the better player when it's all said and done,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: But you don't know what's going to happen. I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it's just encouraging to say, you know, the one listen,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the one legitimate criticism that we had for Jerry Depoto
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: outside of when he sometimes says things that make people upset,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but one of the legitimate things was for a while
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it was just Julio and now Julio and Cal, you
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: didn't you weren't developing position players, right, Chris, Isn't that
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like that was a legitimate complaint And now we're seeing
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: position players being developed in the organization.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think you can still have that complaint
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: because we still need to see a longer sample of
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: Cole Young and Colt Emerson. But like you see what
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: they've done with bats like lazarro Montes, who has taking
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: a big step forward since they signed him in, Mike
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: l Royo and Johnny Fermeto. All of these guys have
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: a chance to be among the best regulars they've developed
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: in the last twenty five years, which is a little
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: bit of an insult going the other way from what
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: I was just talking about to the bats that they
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: developed under the Depoto era. But there's some really nice
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: things happening. And I can just tell you as a
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: guy who talks to a lot of front office people,
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: the Mariner player development system was a joke under the
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: Gerendic and Chris Gwin years, not considered a joke anymore.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: People really have nice things to say about what they're
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: doing right now.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Chris, let me stay with you just for a second.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Cold Emerson. It happened after we were on last week.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Cold Emerson contract thoughts.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: I love it. I think it's a win win win
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: for everybody. I think it's a win for the Seattle
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: Mariners to get a core position player locked up. It's
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: a win for Colt Emerson that he doesn't have to
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: be paid, not nearly what he's going to be worth
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: for the arbitration. And it's a win for Seattle Mariner
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: fans because it shows a little bit of a commitment
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: because you don't have to do something like this. But
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: I do think, you know, a big portion of this is, yeah,
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: the Mariners are paying more for Colt Emerson than they
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: would for the first three years. They could be saving
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: a you know what ton of money by doing a
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: deal like this and arbitration and also buying two years
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: out of free agency as well. So a win win
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: system that, if we're being honest, is only a win
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: for the player because baseball has such an archaic system
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: set up.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nathan, I think that this is not Evan White.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: This is a guy that they truly believe in, and
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: it is, i mean, god life changing money for the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: player in a sport that has free agency doesn't start till,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: you know, like thirty two years old. It feels like, like, Nathan,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: this just feels like a win all the way around.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe more so for the player initially, but as Chris
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: mentioned later on, for the team too.
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, it's a huge win for cold Emerson. It's
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: hard to get intangrous about it. I would love to
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: be able to figure out a way to do it
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: other than the fact that I do think that before
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: you go patting the Mariners on the back for, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: spending money, keep in mind that they did this because
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: they think they're going to save money.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: That's the Maining's a good point.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: But for cold Emerson it's fantastic. It doesn't matter. Like
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: if you said I can't have ninety five million dollars
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: now or maybe have two hundred million dollars in a decade,
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: I'm taking the ninety five million and I am running.
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: And for cold Emerson, he's still going to be a
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: free agent before he hits thirty in this argument, so
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: he could potentially still get that big fat contract at
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: the end of his twenty So it's huge. It's it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: fantastic for Mariner fans too, because it shows that it's
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: it's kind of a chance to right the wrong of
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: whatever happened with the Jared Kilnick situation, where they had
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: that super prospect that they were trying to get to
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: sign up contract like this, and for whatever reason, the
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: relationship just didn't come to fruition and it didn't happen.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: And then it turned out to be probably a good
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: thing for the team because Kelnick didn't pan out. But
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: it just is nice to see these things, those kinds
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: of errors not be repeated and see a guy like
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: this get locked up and be a part of the franchise.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: The cool thing is now, when he debuts, you don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: have to worry about this guy getting traded. You don't
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: have to worry about him being somebody that the team
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: is looking to get rid of. He's ours the second
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: that he graduates and we have him for nine years.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: That's a really cool thing.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to the not so good stuff.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Right now, and Chris, I'll just give it up, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: mollywop choice. Here we can talk about Julio and his
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: thirteen strikeouts and thirty nine at bats, hitting one fifty four,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: just two RBI and no home runs. We could talk
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: about cal who has struck out now twenty times in
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: thirty at bats this season, does not have a home run,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: his hard hit rates win down four RBI's nailor his
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: numbers are even worse, and all the above, except for
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: he's only struck out five times. So I'll throw it
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to you, Chris Crawford, which of those guys are you
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: most concerned about? Even if you're not really concerned as
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: we're only ten games into the season.
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll just be honest, I'm not concerned about any
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: of them. But I suppose if I'm concerned about one
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: of them, maybe a little bit Julio, just because of
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: the fact that this is trending towards being another one
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: of these starts. So, you know, and I'll say this, Hey,
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: two RBI, two of the biggest RBI. He can have
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: both of them. Game tying RBIs.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: To the times, right, yeah, both yeah?
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean, hey, if twenty of your one
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: hundred percent of your harbis are game dying in the
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: ninth inning. That's not so bad. But you know, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: I've seen some hard contact from Julio. He's just not
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: driving the baseball. I'm not worried about the strikeouts so much.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: I'm more worried about the fact that it's a lot
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: of dink and dunk stuff. But I'm not worried about
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: any of the three. I'm just not I can't over
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: at ten game sample sized, guys. It's just far too small.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: And that's one of the things that brought up with
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: confirmation bias, is that you just can't go here we
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: go again based on this smallest sample. Not in my
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: humble estimation anyway. But if I had to pick one
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: of the three, I think it would be him, Naylor
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: a close second, and big Dumper a far far away third.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: To be completely honest with you, but made me pick one.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: And that's why you're a good radio host.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: So I'll do the same things with you, Nathan. The
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: good thing is with Nathan it won't be hard. He'll
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: pick all three. But no, Nathan, no, this is good.
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: Radio because I actually, I actually think that the one
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: that I find the most concerning is Cal for a
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: couple of reasons. One, I love Cal. He's the one
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: that's earned the most respect and the most patients out
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: of those three, and all three of them have earned that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: To be clear, I also want to make it clear
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: that I'm not actually worried about any of them. So
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: that's Chris's caveat that I'm borrowing. But with Cal, this
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: is a guy who before last year was a really
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: good hitter for a catcher. But that's what it was.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: He was a really good hitter for a catcher. You
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: put him at first base or a less premium offensive position.
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: His offensive profile is very home run dependent because of
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: the high strikeouts in the low batting average. That's a
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: narrow path to walk towards major league productivity offensively speaking.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: So combine that with the fact that this is a
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: guy who has played a ton of games behind the
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: plate since he's debuted in Seattle and is now approaching
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: thirty years old, I can make a case where you're
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: starting to see the skill set erode a little bit.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: I don't really buy it, but that's the one that
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: I see. Like Julio Man, I've seen Julio do this
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: his entire major league career. This is just what he does,
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: and then by July he's gonna be the best player
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: in baseball. Josh Naylor has a proven track record of
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: being a very solid bat to ball hitter. He and
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: Cal should already have a home run f one the
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: weird stuff happening on Saturday. But with Cal, I've just
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: always felt like it wouldn't take much batspeed erosion or
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: much contact lost to start really redlining how much he
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: can not put the ball in play before you start
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: getting worried. And he's definitely that player right now. That said,
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: he's gonna hit ten home runs in the next three
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: weeks and then none of us are going to care.
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: But that's the one that I would make the case
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: for well, and I.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: Can I just counter in that real quick as because
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: I totally agree with what Nathan is saying, And I
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: will say this, when cal Rawley's skill set does a road,
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: it's going to be ugly, because this is what's happening
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: with catchers. But the fact is his bat speed is
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: in the eighty fourth percentile right now. It's not a
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: lack of batspeed. He just can't see the frickin' baseball
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: right now. And if you need proof of that, take
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: a look at the challenges he'll end up picking up
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: the baseball here. And the fact that he's still swinging
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: a stick at seventy four point six miles per hour,
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: which is well above average, is probably the reason that
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: I'm the least concerned.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know what's an interesting thing, though, guys that
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you bring up the bat speed we are. Guy Eno
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Saras was on with us every week on Thursdays and
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he brought this up, and there was a lot.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: There's a batspeed decline though for all those guys plus
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Randy that we talked about. So maybe that's the cold weather.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe it heated up this week, and I'm gonna ask
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: him on Thursday because maybe it changed. Maybe that maybe
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: because they were playing in the eighties in Anaheim and
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: you said Saturday night was weird.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I mean you have a fence. Yeah, you have a fence.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It's like what three feet high, you know, and a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: guy jumping over, an jumping over, just leaning over it
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to take home runs away. I mean it's you know, shocking.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse stadium, Mickey Mouse fence, and Mickey Mouse results.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: So one of the worst outfielders in baseball over his sixties.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Isn't that the wild thing? Isn't that the wildest thing?
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, first percentile and it's not good to be
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: in the first percentile of out's above average a couple
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: of times in his career. And he robs three Seattle
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: Mariners homers, all huge, huge that did you guys see
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: the board they put up. Don't hit the ball to
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Jordan Adell, by the way, Yeah, not his name, Joseph
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: Adell was what they said. I'm sorry. And number two. No,
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: that's a great strategy. Joe Adell's due for some terrible defense.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: Goodness gracious, that game just frustrated the ever living crap
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: out of me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. That's one of those. That's one of
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: those games that just is gonna happen. Right, You're gonna
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: in the course of one sixty two you look back,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: remember that game.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: That was just weird. Okay, we come back. Uh.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Nathan has a stat for us. I tease this in
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the start of our show today at one o'clock. Nathan
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: has a stat and it's a stat you'll love.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: He'll give that to you.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: A look ahead of the week that is coming up
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: as well, with the trip to Texas starting tonight.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: We'll do that next.
• 32:45
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  Speaker 3: More with the boys coming up next to.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: From the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast Studio. Now
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• 33:39
  Speaker 3: All right, Nathan, let's get to it. What's your stat?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: What's your stat?
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: You got well, I was going to lead into it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: I'm really glad that you cut us off, because Chris
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: was talking about cal Rawley not being able to see
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: anything and that being reflected in just the awful way
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: that he has used the new ABS Challenge system. However,
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: thus far that has not been an indictment on the team.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: I was looking at some data before we came on air,
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: ranking all of the baseball teams in their win and
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: loss at the ABS Challenge. The Seattle Maritons are currently
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: above five hundred. They are thirteen and eleven, which I'm
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: not great at math. I was a music major, so
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: you can check it. But if I've done the arithmetic correctly,
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: that comes out to a fifty four percent winning percentage
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: on the ABS Challenge system Sadly, at this time, that's
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: seventeenth in Major League Baseball. So the fifty four percent
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: would not get them into the playoffs here. However, if
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: they keep this rate going for a decade, I think
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: that it's likely that they would make the playoffs more.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Often than not, more often than not.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: Okay, anyway, sorry, I know that's I know that's the
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: easiest joke of all time.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: But fifty I'm a fifty four percent.
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: What do you want from me?
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Fifty four percent?
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: We'll never get away from that number, my man, it's
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: just forever.
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: If they can win the next three World Series, I'll
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: still make those kind of jokes. I just don't care, man.
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: I would rather either here my nieces make a billion
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: six seven jokes over here in fifty four for the
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: rest of my life.
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: What do we think, Chris? What do we think of
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the ABS system? Yes? No, good, bad?
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: It should it's better than what we had. It shouldn't
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: exist because it should just be all automated. And I'll
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: tell you this anyone who was complaining about like this
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: is gonna take so much time. Guys, if you watched
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: the games, has this affected the time to these games
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: at all? Absolutely not. It's just like Dennis, they have
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: a quick challenge, they show the play, it's over with.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: Like I think the Mariners need to get better at it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: I think they probably need to figure out who can
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: do it and who can't. When I saw Luke Rayley
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: use one against the left handed pitcher, I just about
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: ordered cement shoes online.
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: But I.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: Think it's a good thing, and it's certainly an improvement
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: over what we had before. But boy, there are some
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: Seattle Mariners too, just stink at it right now. And
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: unfortunately one of them.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Is big Yeah. Yeah, the dumper. Yeah, the dumpers.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: The dumpers not had success with it along the way
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I was thinking earlier.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's part of me, like we're gonna
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: highlight the C. B.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Buckner things, right and and all of that, and you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I mean there's listen, there's bad umpires, there's guys that
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be up. I mean, I I think this should
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: be used, honestly, Fellas I think more and more when
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: you're evaluating umpires at the end.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Of a season.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You know, like this, this should be part of the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: evaluation process, Like you're not good at your job, and
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: there are guys that are. There's guys that are really
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: good at it. Chris Chris is more Chris is more
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: of a hockey guy than than Nate Chris. I kind
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: of brought this up last week. To me, it's kind
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: of like, I think, one of the hardest things. But
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: it's a black and white call. Uh to do in
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: sports is call off sides in hockey. It's so quick,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it's it's a disc, a rubber disc on ice with
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: a blue line going to white.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: It's just and yet when you watch it, those guys
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: are right about ninety eight percent of the time. It's remarkable.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: And when we're watching baseball, these guys are right most
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: of the time. There are some, however, that are frankly
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: just not good at it and they probably shouldn't have
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: that job. It's as simple as that.
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, this is probably gonna weed out
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: some guys. This is probably going to be something where
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: you know, and by the way, this is why the
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: NFL full time officiating. This is the obvious reason for it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: For it because you want these guys to get better
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: and work at it full time, right, Major League Baseball
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: guys full time work at this thing. Yeah, there are
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: just some guys who aren't very good at it, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: it becomes much more obvious with some of this challenge stuff.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: There have been a couple of umpires who have been
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: flat out embarrassed. We saw it in the Yankees series
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: where there were like five challenges in one inning and
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: that umpire was I can't remember the name of him now,
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: and I don't want to know his name because he's
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: not good at his job, but he clearly wasn't frustrated
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: by what was going on there. This is gonna weed
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: out some guys, and honestly, I think that's a good thing.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: All right, let's let's look ahead to the week coming
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: up three in Texas against the Rangers and then an
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: off day Thursday and kind of a weird series Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: okay against the Houston Astros.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: Is it so long?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Is it a holiday next Monday? Am I missing something?
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Why is? Why are they playing on a Funday? I
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they used to do it all the time, like Friday, Saturday,
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: Sunday Monday series used to happen all the time. But
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: I think this is just a weird, weird kink in
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: the scheduling. Then I believe that they have three games
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: in San Diego or something like that. Do that, But
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: I do have to admit I got a little nostalgia.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Let's let's go ahead.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: So the Texas three, Texas three step and then we've
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: got three from Houston that we'll talk about.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Well, we will be on the air before the fourth one.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: So over the.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Next six games against these teams, Nathan Bishop thoughts.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: Well, like I said in the first segment, definitely an
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: increase in competition level over the Los Angeles Angels, who are,
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: you know, one of the worst teams in the American League.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: So the Marions are gonna have to play a lot
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: better on the field. You know, the Astros have gotten
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: off to a really hot start offensively. Jordan Alvarez appears
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: to be healthy, and as long as that's the case,
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: that team is going to be able to thump because
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: that guy is one of the five best hitters in baseball.
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: But the Mariors are still a better team than both
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: of them. Top to bottom on the roster. They just
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: need to start playing like it. And you know, if
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: the big three that we've been talking about have another
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: rough week, am I gonna push the panic button on them?
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: No?
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: But this is the week after the first game in
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: the NFL schedule where I'd like to see them start
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: getting their feet under. Maybe not all three, but maybe
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: two of them. Maybe Julio has you know, a homer
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: and a double tonight or something like that, and then
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: Calgo's yard tomorrow, Naylor has a couple good games, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: then when we talk in a week, we see those
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: guys look better. I just want to see him, you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: I want him to go four and two. If they
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: go three and three, I'm going to be fine, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: foreign would be fantastic. Just play better baseball.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Texas has lost I believe, four straight games, all right, Chris,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the same thing.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, But it's time to win a series. They
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: have not won a series to begin the year, and
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: you know, it took them a little while to win
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: that first series as well in twenty twenty five and
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: things worked out okay, but not the best. And I
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: want to see them start winning series. You gotta win
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: one of these two. You gotta win one of these two.
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: Series four and two would be ideal. Three and three,
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: But it'll be interesting because they're facing some pretty darn
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: good pitchers Jacob deGrom, one of the very best in baseball,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: will and healthy. That's a very fun pitching matchup to begin. Yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: you gotta start winning series. So I want to see
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: a foreign two.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I do like the fact that old Walter's going tonight
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: hunt that just like like you need to win, you
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: need to kind of get going, like like throw this
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: dude out there going and yeah, and that's the same
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: and that's the same thing as well.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: All right, Chris postcast tonight.
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, it'll be me live because Anders has to cover
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: this just amazing hockey team. I'm not going to be
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: doing that, but I will be live Monday and Tuesday
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: by myself. I'm excited to have Andrews back after that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: But yeah, check out the postcast on Lockdown Mariners.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: All right, uh, and Nate, we'll talk to you next week.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: My FRIENDO sell a house or two over there on
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the beautiful peninsula.
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: Right well we can, sir, thank you as always.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: All right, that is Nathan Bishop. Chris Crawford. The Mollywop guys.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Tune into the postcast tonight with Chris after the Mariner game.
• 41:24
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• 41:25
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• 41:31
  Speaker 3: All right, boys, thank you, we'll talk to you next week.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll talk a little bit about tonight's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: college basketball game and a bigger picture issue with college
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: hoops as well.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: That's next.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentals Sports to us your ninety
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• 41:55
  Speaker 2: of the weekend at Anaheim. Joe Adell robbed three home
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: runs on Saturday night. Crazy game. They're losing a nex
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Trainings did the Urnors yesterday to the Angels. Next up
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: series in Texas, three games starting tonight against the Rangers.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert Jacob de grom Is the pitching matchup. Cracking
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: lost to Chicago on Saturday, and they are They're not
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: officially done, but they're pretty close to being done in
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: the playoff race. They'll try to fight their way back
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: in with a game tonight in Winnipeg against the surging Jets,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: who have been red hot lately and are above them
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: in the standings. Now four o'clock pre game four to
• 42:23
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• 42:26
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• 42:28
  Speaker 2: we've got the National Championship game yukon Michigan in college
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: hoops as well. Ucla, by the win, won the Women's
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: National Championship yesterday over at South Carolina in a blowout.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: New York Jets all Pro defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence requesting
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: a trade and the Chicago Sky for a two time
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: WNBA als Our Angel recently lant a dream for a
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven first round pick and at twenty twenty
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: eight first round pick should mentioned in the Seattle Torrent yesterday,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: playing in New York before a record crowd for women's
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: hockey at MSG, they lost a shootout, though two to one.
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: Let's get to our two.
• 43:04
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• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Alrighty, here we go on a Monday afternoon, four nine,
• 43:24
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• 43:26
  Speaker 2: check some text in a second. We've got a little
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: different schedule a safty. He's gonna join us for cross
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: talk at two thirty five to thirty or so, and
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: then we're gonna say goodbye and he'll take over two
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: forty five ahead of the cracking Uh so short show
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: for him and I today as we get ready for
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: the crack in Winnipeg. Kind of a weird start for
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: that game. It's four thirty Pacific time there, six thirty
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: up there. I guess it's National TV in Canada. In fact,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I know it's National TV canadoncause I got John forslan
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Is on the call for Prime Canada for the game tonight.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Always the best.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, John's doing that. So we got Benton doing
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: radio and Ever doing TV tonight for the cracking up
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: there and winn a peg.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: All right, I want to get to this.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: This is a College Game Day ESPN basketball version yesterday
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: had an incredible discussion and it's it's long, So we're
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: going to play it right away here and discuss on
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the other side, because I've just got a lot.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Of strong feelings and opinions about this.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: But J billis Jay Williams, John Calipari, Rhys Davis, and
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Seth Greenberg on the set in Indianapolis talking about the
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: current state of college basketball, especially as it relates to
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: guys getting paid in nil money.
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: We're all waiting on older players. The game is better
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: because it's older.
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: Twenty six. I laughed and said, a guy got two kids.
• 44:40
  Speaker 11: And his wife and his on his second wife.
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: And it's being a pro.
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: It's being a pro basketball player. Is yes, But John,
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: you say, go pro.
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: Some would argue this is professional basketball, and is professional it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: Is, it's amateur basketball, but well then let's just call
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: it pro and let be a pro basketball.
• 44:58
  Speaker 13: Well, but first of all, it was. It was pro
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: basketball before nil. And I'll tell you why amateur sports
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: don't make billions of dollars and pay their coaches and
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: administrators millions. There is nothing about this that has ever
• 45:13
  Speaker 13: been amateur. Once the money jumped up, and it started
• 45:16
  Speaker 13: in nineteen eighty four with the US Supreme Court ruling
• 45:19
  Speaker 13: that allowed the conferences to sell their media rights. There
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: is no difference between the media rights contracts with the
• 45:25
  Speaker 13: NCAA from a media company like ours and the NFL,
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: the NBA, major League Baseball. Zero difference. And right now
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: when we're talking about this, we're kind of taking an
• 45:35
  Speaker 13: old school mentality of Hey, it used to be a
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: certain way, and that's fine. But if we want players
• 45:41
  Speaker 13: to stay, then sign them to long term contracts and
• 45:44
  Speaker 13: put buyouts in them. But the NCAA doesn't want to
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: do that because they don't want them to be employees.
• 45:49
  Speaker 13: They want to beg Congress for an anti trust exemption
• 45:52
  Speaker 13: and they're not going to get it. What other multi
• 45:54
  Speaker 13: billion dollar industry is getting an anti trust exemption from Congress?
• 45:58
  Speaker 10: There isn't one.
• 45:59
  Speaker 13: Then double A should do is make rules that don't
• 46:03
  Speaker 13: violate federal law. The rest of the rest of American
• 46:06
  Speaker 13: business has to do it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: They can do it too well.
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: That's the one major difference in right like that, that's
• 46:11
  Speaker 14: the difference between being an NBA or NHL their rules
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: and regulation is also there's a CBA. The players have
• 46:17
  Speaker 14: a voice, the coaches have a voice. We don't have
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: any of those guidelines because they don't want it. Exactly
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: the NC DOUAA does not want it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 13: And like when it drives me crazy when people say, well,
• 46:28
  Speaker 13: we used to talk about education. What's stopping you from
• 46:30
  Speaker 13: talking about education. If a player is not interested in education,
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: then don't take the player, you know, and if you
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: don't like transfers, don't take transfers. But you know, what
• 46:38
  Speaker 13: everybody wants to do.
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: They want to win.
• 46:40
  Speaker 13: Like, none of these schools is going we have the
• 46:43
  Speaker 13: highest GPA. They're going, We've been to six final fours.
• 46:46
  Speaker 13: They want to win and they're going to pay what's
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: necessary to win.
• 46:48
  Speaker 15: But you got to find a balance because I don't
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: care what re collective bargaining.
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: It's a professional sport.
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: Almost things sound great, but in the end, these are
• 46:55
  Speaker 15: seventeen to eighteen year old kids.
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: Or they're not kids. Well it's called men's college basketball.
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: They're adults. That's just rhetoric. There adult is a developing
• 47:07
  Speaker 13: young person.
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: That's different.
• 47:09
  Speaker 13: Developing young decision developing young man is still an adult.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: They get charged with a crime, they're charged on an adult.
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: Can I just say this, I've been one that has
• 47:19
  Speaker 11: promoted young people making money fifteen years ago. They're nil.
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: They should be able to do this we just got
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: to figure out. Maybe it's collective bargaining. Maybe it's collective
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: bargain with the trade union that the players and we
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: come up with something.
• 47:36
  Speaker 10: This is not sustainable.
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: If you don't want it to sustain, then say let's
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: just keep going as this. I'm in this. I mean,
• 47:44
  Speaker 11: I don't mind kids transferring. I don't, but I'm saying,
• 47:49
  Speaker 11: do we really want them to be able to go
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: every year? And then you say, well, coach can well
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: if I left, my players can leave.
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: If I leave, there is a buy out in there.
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: So I don't know. I don't have all the answers,
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: but I do know this, the transfer and the length
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: of eligibility.
• 48:06
  Speaker 11: A seventeen year old playing against a twenty eight.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: Year old is not healthy and safe. Its just not
• 48:14
  Speaker 10: There needs to be one years of football.
• 48:16
  Speaker 11: Do they make them stay three years because they say
• 48:19
  Speaker 11: it's not safe.
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: No, that's not why the NFL. The NFL has a
• 48:24
  Speaker 13: collective bardner.
• 48:25
  Speaker 11: You and I could go back and forth on this
• 48:27
  Speaker 11: and have some fun with it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 13: But they determined. So that's a great point. Like the
• 48:30
  Speaker 13: NFL used to be four years. You know, college football
• 48:33
  Speaker 13: is fifty years older than the NFL. And the NFL
• 48:37
  Speaker 13: used to have or excuse me, the NCAA used to
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: have a rule way back in the day that when
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: the NFL was getting going that if you worked in
• 48:43
  Speaker 13: professional sports, you can no longer work in college sports.
• 48:46
  Speaker 13: So the NCUBA, or excuse me, the NFL came to
• 48:48
  Speaker 13: the NCUAA on bended dean said please, don't, please, don't
• 48:51
  Speaker 13: do this to us.
• 48:51
  Speaker 10: You'll kill us.
• 48:52
  Speaker 13: As we're getting going, we won't draft our players until
• 48:55
  Speaker 13: they graduate. And then they started drafting them after three years.
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: You know why not.
• 48:58
  Speaker 13: Because they're they're they're mature enough now is because the
• 49:01
  Speaker 13: USFL started drafting juniors and they had to keep up.
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: That's all it is.
• 49:05
  Speaker 13: That's a collective bargaining issue for eligibility for the draft
• 49:09
  Speaker 13: and nothing more. The NBA has an eligibility issue that
• 49:11
  Speaker 13: says one year after your high school graduation and you're in.
• 49:15
  Speaker 13: So that's a pro thing, not a college thing. And
• 49:18
  Speaker 13: the colleges just will the NCAA will not adjust to this.
• 49:22
  Speaker 10: They never have.
• 49:23
  Speaker 13: And they've used the word unsustainable for fifty years now,
• 49:27
  Speaker 13: and the money keeps going up. The ratings are higher
• 49:29
  Speaker 13: than they've ever been.
• 49:30
  Speaker 14: Right now, can cash you an uh, come from an
• 49:34
  Speaker 14: institutional perspective, because we're not going to fix that issue
• 49:37
  Speaker 14: right now in national TV have How is your system
• 49:41
  Speaker 14: operationalized to kind of keep up with the times? How
• 49:43
  Speaker 14: is it different than what it was five years ago?
• 49:45
  Speaker 14: Are you going to have a CEO? We have a
• 49:47
  Speaker 14: president overall? Do you have a GM now?
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: How's everything work?
• 49:51
  Speaker 11: It's different in basketball than football. And here's what I
• 49:55
  Speaker 11: would say. If it comes a point for me personally
• 49:58
  Speaker 11: where it's transactional, I'm paying You're going to say I'm leaving.
• 50:03
  Speaker 10: You got to pay me more, and I won't.
• 50:04
  Speaker 11: Do this anymore as long as it's transformational. I look
• 50:09
  Speaker 11: at Darius A. Cuff and he's going to keep me
• 50:12
  Speaker 11: coaching for a few more years. Malik Thomas, they'll never
• 50:16
  Speaker 11: be able to play together.
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: Both of them are going to have pro careers.
• 50:20
  Speaker 11: Billy goat Richmond, Trevin Brazili, he's never been better.
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: That makes me going. But if it becomes.
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: Transactional, why am I doing this? Then I might well
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: be a pro coach. Just be a pro coach. They
• 50:33
  Speaker 11: fired me though, did you know they.
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: They fired me because I played rookies.
• 50:39
  Speaker 12: It's a remarkable thing and I think both of you
• 50:41
  Speaker 12: make great points in that I agree with Jad. They're
• 50:44
  Speaker 12: not kids, but they're still maturing. There's something to be
• 50:47
  Speaker 12: said for helping them to develop, helping them make wise decisions,
• 50:50
  Speaker 12: because when we are immature, even if we're adults, sometimes
• 50:53
  Speaker 12: we grab it the first shiny thing we see and
• 50:55
  Speaker 12: it's not for the better men. But you have to
• 50:59
  Speaker 12: let the business function as a business.
• 51:01
  Speaker 15: I just think we're talking about the one percenters.
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: We're not talking about the enterprise.
• 51:06
  Speaker 15: And we have young people that are making this money
• 51:09
  Speaker 15: and that's great, and they're gonna go to Europe and
• 51:11
  Speaker 15: get fired. They're gonna come back, and you talk about
• 51:13
  Speaker 15: mental health issues. We better be prepared to help these
• 51:15
  Speaker 15: people and have someone build a bridge for them to cross,
• 51:18
  Speaker 15: to help them navigate the rest of their life, not
• 51:21
  Speaker 15: just these three or four years where they're markets.
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: So they.
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: Jay, they say that, I don't think Jay jay.
• 51:28
  Speaker 11: A kid's making five hundred thousand a year. He stays
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: and he transfers and he makes six hundred day year
• 51:33
  Speaker 11: and then he's.
• 51:34
  Speaker 10: Done, no college degree.
• 51:35
  Speaker 11: It goes to get a job and the guy offers
• 51:38
  Speaker 11: him sixty thousand, and the guy pretty feels good.
• 51:40
  Speaker 10: About it.
• 51:41
  Speaker 11: Sixty This is fugazy money right now, and you're right,
• 51:44
  Speaker 11: there's so much of it, it's crazy.
• 51:46
  Speaker 10: What do we do with that? Kids? Now?
• 51:48
  Speaker 11: All of a sudden, he says, sixty thousand. Do I
• 51:51
  Speaker 11: get a car? Do I have to come to work?
• 51:55
  Speaker 11: Do you get me? Do you're feeding me? Right the apartment?
• 51:58
  Speaker 11: We're gonna deal with men health issues. And that's why
• 52:01
  Speaker 11: I'm saying, let's collect the bargain. Let's have people in
• 52:04
  Speaker 11: the room. We're finally talking about it to say it's
• 52:08
  Speaker 11: an issue right now, and we got to do something.
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: I'm for the kids. I don't care what they make.
• 52:13
  Speaker 11: I don't really care. Let people decide that, but how
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: we run our business, we gotta do this different for them.
• 52:21
  Speaker 11: I hate to say it in a game two which
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: we've all benefited by.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Nope, all right, there you go, great stuff, Curtsey ESPN.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to discuss there right here on the
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: day that is college football championship game. We're gonna talk
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: about some of this stuff with Gary Perrish on Friday.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: But I think we can translate to college football as well.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: And I brought this up at the start of the
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: show today. You know, you're you as a college fan,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: if you're a Husky fan of Cougar fan, Gonzaga fan,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: organ doesn't matter. You're being asked to spend money and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: pay for a roster of.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Your favorite team. That's the big like like like, here's
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: the funny thing. J Bill says.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: You know, there' zero just between college and NFL, NBA, MLB,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: et cetera in terms of the revenue coming in. Not necessarily.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks don't ask you to play to pay salaries.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: You know, they're not asking you to pay for Sam
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Darnold's contract outside of a ticket price.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: They're not asking you to do that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: John Stanton is not calling and saying, listen, I know
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: you've you bought a twenty game pack to go watch
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the Mariners this season, but we're gonna ask you to
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: also donate some more money to help pay for a
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: contract extension for Cole Young.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: They're not asking you to do that. If there is
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: a when he.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Says zero difference between college and NFL, there's a massive difference.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: He talks about media rights. The massive difference there in
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: the media rights is, Yes, the NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: and NHL, they all MLS, WNBA, NWSL, PWHL, whoever it is,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: they negotiate a television or a media rights deal for
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: the entire league. In college, that's not the case. It's
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: done conference by conference. Think about this for a second.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Imagine if you had one television deal for the AFC
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: and one for the NFC. In the NFL, or if
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball there's an American League television package and
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: there's a National League.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Or even al Wes versus NLS, that's.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Actually even a better one. Yeah, so it's very different.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: So I just I inherently, I just vamily disagree with
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: him in a lot of his takes. And it's funny
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: because here's a guy that's made millions and millions of
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: dollars off of being a media guy for college basketball,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: and yet he wants to bite the hand it feeds him.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Half the time.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: He says there should be buyots and contracts, and then
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: calson the same thing, and I agree hundred percent. I
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: think that's I think the biggest solution because when you
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: hear and they all talked about how it's not sustainable,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: college cal brought that up, and the other guy's brought
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: up to it's not sustainable, and it's not you don't
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: want you want a good example why it's not sustainable
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: because we're talking about the one percent here, we're talking
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: about a handful of teams. There's in Division one basketball,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: there's roughly three hundred and seventy five Division one basketball teams.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: There's four power for conf This is the Big East
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: has kind of thought to be a power for and
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: then you got the high majors Pack twelve next year
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: will be a high major things like that, right, So
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: there's but even in those conferences, if you're not named
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yukon or Saint John's or Gonzaga, you're not part of
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: the party. You're not part of the power structure of
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the sport we're talking about, you know. And then we
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: talk about players, we're talking about the one percenters. We're
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: not talking to everybody else. But here's why it's not sustainable,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: because it's still college athletics. Like it or not, it's
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: college athletics. And yeah, in a lot of ways, it's
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: a farm system for the teams at the highest of
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: level no matter what the sport is. Hockey's becoming that too.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: If you're seeing this, there's all these nil to these
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: guys are Land and DuPont plays for the ever Silver
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Tips great young player fifteen years old last year was
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: too young to play in the league. I got a
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: special exemption. Plays this year as a sixteen year old,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: one of the best players in the league. He's gonna
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: make money in the He's gonna make nil money next
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: year as a seventeen year old college student playing in
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: college hockey. It's everywhere, But why is it not sustainable?
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Because there's not that many revenue generating programs, much less sports,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: but programs in the country. Case indpoint, this was a
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: story I ran across and saved last week. We just
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: finished the women's national championship game yesterday. UCLA and South Carolina. Right,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: South Carolina women's basketball had a deficit of seven point
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: eight million dollars two years ago and six point two
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: four million dollar deficit deficit. That's the best, one of
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: the three best women's programs in the country and they're
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: running a six million dollar deficit. So Yukon, South Carolina, Texas,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: UCLA all spent over nine million dollars in operating expenses
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: and didn't make.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: That back for the past year. That's a fact.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: So yes, certain sports at the highest level, and certain
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: teams and certain programs make money and they carry the
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: boat for everybody else. But the reality is most of
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: these young people are getting compensated at a level that's
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: far higher than what their true value is because of
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the arms race, because of the pressure to win, and
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: all of those things.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: It just comes back to one thing, honestly.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: And when I say it's not sustainable, that's one reason,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: because you're going to see more and more sports get dropped.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: That's just the reality of it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 16: Yep.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if to me that's not a
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: good thing. I think the college experience for anybody who
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: can do something besides go to class that might be
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: college athletics, that might be working at Cable eight News
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: and Pullman and the meuos school, that might be working
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: in the biology department marine biology department at you dub
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: and doing something besides classroom work. You're doing whatever it
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: is the collegiate experience, but sports at the top of
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: the list. The more that can be involved, the better.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And Jess, you were a small college athlete. My son
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: was a small college athlete. Those experiences are invaluable. They're
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: also massively team well but they're your friends. But just
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: even from learning how to just growing up and ers
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: you were the same way you were an athlete in college. Yes,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: those experiences were invaluable to you and they existed. Why
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: because we're not paying people millions of dollars to play
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: at your two schools, right, my son's school. But you
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have those experiences and you know where they come into play.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: You guys both know this. On the job market, people
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: like have student athletes. They like that you've been through
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: more than the average student. Don't take away those opportunities
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: by just taking more and more money and putting it
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: in a very small pile for the one percent.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: So my question to you, Ian is when the NCAA
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: is so focused on making more money, how do we
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: go back to subsidizing those other sports.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, that's the problem.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Those other sports are getting subsidized by March madness.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Money has not always been and college football.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Money, yes, yes it has. But the pressure to win
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: in those two sports men's basketball and more more so
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: than anything football, the pressure to win there will make
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: you want to spend more on those programs. Coaches, support staff,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: facilities at the expense, oftentimes of other.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Programs and fans and fans.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: And so I just the solution is really simple. I
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: brought up Lawan Watts earlier. Four schools and four years.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: How is that healthy for anybody?
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: How is that building a team?
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Take I agree, Jess Pollyanna World, I'm with you, like
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that should be part of it. That should be part
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: of it. But it's not and it never will be.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: It's about building a successful team, but not about in
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: terms of your definition of team. Your definition of team
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: is what is what.
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: It should mean?
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: But your family.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right? But they don't care about that. Yeah,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: they don't care about that, and it's and it's too bad.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: The other thing is from a fans standpoint, I just again,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I'll put myself in the in the like the shoes
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: of anybody. I mean, our school. We're just at this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: point where basketball is gonna be turned over every single year.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Why because we're putting all of our focus in on football. Rightfully,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: So it's it's the only it's the only sport that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: can generate money in Pullman, Washington has a ton of money.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: They're in the Big damn Ten. They lose players every year.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Arkansas lost a starter playing player today. Kansas lost a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: starting player today to the portal. It's just like we're
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: just going all over the place. The way you make
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: it sustainable is just simple. You have if you're gonna
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: have these nil deals and pay these guys money, you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: have to sign them to a contract for more than
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: for more than one year and it and you can.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: You know, what they signed last week is executive order,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: which is gonna go to court, it's gonna get and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be tied up forever. But one time transfer
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: or a penalty if you're twice like, it just.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Has to be that way.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: So you're asking people to pay money for something, there's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: no return on your investment as a fan, there is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: zero return on investment if you're a fan. Hell, DeMont
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Williams doesn't want to be here. Like keep that in
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: mind for a second, right, So if you invested money
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: in him last year, you got lucky because it kind
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: of forced him to stay and good for Washington and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: good for the Big ten to force the kid to stay,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: like good for them, But at the same time, he
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: don't want to be here, and you would what would
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: your return investment being been on him last year? A
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Bowl game yeah, you weren't contending for the college football playoff.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: What's your return on investment? When people are saying, hey,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: to be a good fan, you've got to write a check.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Shut up?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: Like really, so Ian, My whole point in like I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: guess to J. Billis's point, is when NCAA wants to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: keep it quote unquote amateur athletes at this point, that's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: kind of the only way to kind of work it
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: around to pay these guys because we're in this in
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: between phase where they're trying to keep it amateur but
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: also trying to pay them at the same time.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Understand what understand why they wanted to keep it amateur
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: because they were trying to keep it from being the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: one hundred dollars you know, handshake, the tosh lapoy putting
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: money in the coffee in the coffee cup. They were
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: trying to keep the playing field even they don't get
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: they would have paid players, as Cal said, years ago,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: and they have paid.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Them for years ago because they all knew.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Because the whole amateur Like we're talking about amateur, like,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: how do we define what an amateur is? Right, Like,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: how do you really define that? Because these guys are
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  Speaker 2: getting not just scholarship money. I'm going back way back
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  Speaker 2: in the day scholarship money, room and board and a stipend.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that money wasn't nearly close to the
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  Speaker 2: cost of enrollment and and so forth. I get that,
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  Speaker 2: but they were getting that so automatically you're getting paid.
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  Speaker 2: That's that you're getting compensated. When the federal government asked
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: you if you get paid every year, yeah, I got.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: You know, I got a gift card from X place.
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  Speaker 2: That's considered payment. Right, that's that's that's income, that's payment
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: along the way. And so like when they're saying, right, no,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean that's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it is. And so that's that's why they
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  Speaker 3: were doing that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And they say it's amateur No, they that that that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: that they're just trying to keep their cost down. That's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: all so, you know, and then the and the money
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: coming in again, Remember how many programs actually make money.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: He talks about the billions of dollars being generated. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for certain for a handful of schools and a handful
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: of programs, but the vast majority are not making money.
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  Speaker 5: So if we're talking CBA, we're talking contracts and all
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  Speaker 5: that it turns into pay to play, which gets rid
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: of the amateurism.
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  Speaker 4: So why why is there still like a poll to.
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  Speaker 2: Keep amateurism is I'm just I'll wrap it up, Gonave, Yeah,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: amateurism to me. You know who decided there was no
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: such thing as amateurism anymore? Years ago? The Olympics, the IOCUM,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: the dumbest organization in sports not named FIFA, right like
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: the most corrupt, the most corrupt group in the world,
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  Speaker 2: decide there's really no.
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  Speaker 3: Such thing as amateurism anymore. And there isn't. There isn't.
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  Speaker 2: Hell, are you an amateur golfer? If you're you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm My algorithm is filled with golf stuff right on Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: and I see all these people, A lot of them
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: are young, and you know they're they're getting compensated.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: My nephew is getting compensated at ten years old to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: play lacrosse.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, See, it is delineating no such.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Thing as amateur There isn't There really isn't. So so
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: that argument doesn't hold water. But there's a better solution
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: along the way, and maybe they'll find it some day.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break, come back check in with Softy
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: coming up.
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  Speaker 16: Next.
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  Speaker 3: Then here's our guy in the studio. Is he there? Hello?
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  Speaker 9: Already? I had like three or four minutes here? You know,
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  Speaker 9: what the hell are we doing?
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  Speaker 10: Man?
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  Speaker 4: I was just annoying him.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh wait, wait, wait a second, Jess, you were
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: annoying Softy.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: I'd like to be honest.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: I thought it was usually the other way around.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: I thought, well it is, but I felt like offense
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: this time.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: It doesn't take much, man, I'll tell you that right now.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: Does not take much. Hey, listen, I'm not most women
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: in my life. I know the hell out of me
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: to be honest with you. So whether it's my wife,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: my mother, Jessamine.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, it sounds like you're a horrible person.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: I'm an awful, awful person, and I should not be here.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: I should go home.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: How's that sad?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: He, ladies and gentleman, Dave Softy ball Or has just
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: announced that he is entering the transfer port.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: That's fine, but he's keeping all options. No, but no,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: I'm just gone. I'll see you later. Problem is, I'd
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: like to enter, but I'm contractually obligated. I I did
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: not pull a demand. I looked at my financial my
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: contractual situation before I went on Insta and made the announcement.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: We were just talking about this. Can you can you
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: help me out here a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: Was it the big ten combo with Washington that held
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: him to an nil deal?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 9: That was you dubbed the whole way?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: I think what big what Tony Pettiti and the conference
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: did is they told everybody else in the conference this
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: is how we're doing this. Anybody else is it's actually obligated,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: then they're not going anywhere, and we're not taking players
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: that are also contractually obligated from other teams. We'll see
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: if that actually works out like that. I think in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: college football you got to be a gigantic hypocrite to survive.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: Right now, well you have the only thing is you're
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: worry about is yourself.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: You have you have right.
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  Speaker 2: But I applaud Washington for doing that because a lot
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: of it's like, you know, you invest in this guy,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: you think you've got him, and this is a weird term.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna use.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Re signed or signed right, and then now you know
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: what I'm out. I've gone, right, And that's I think
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: it's the one only one I can think of that. Actually,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: who was the other guy who's gonna transfer they ended up.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: But the oh was it the from u dub no, no, no.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Quarterback from that ended up at Duke or was it
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: a transfer from the kid that ended up going to Miami?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Right? The kid that ended up the quarterback that went
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: to all Right right?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he left, he left Duke to go to Miami.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: And initially Duke was going to hold him to it, yes,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: because the same time as Dumont.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: And then they said, yeah, I don't think he had
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: signed his deal by the way, that kid you're talking about.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: But dude, honestly, like, who the hell knows? Man, It's
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: so ridiculous. It's just every year it's a one year proposition.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: You know, who knows how many of these guys are back?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: Who knows how many you are leaving? Who knows how
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: many will try and quit halfway through the year. If
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: things go sideways, you know they're not playing enough time.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: They're a bench player. I mean, who is the kid
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: from Michigan that transferred to Iowa before Michigan season was
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: even over? Uh, Cad McNamara.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 9: Whatever his name was, a couple of years ago, quarterback.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like before Michigan season even ends the guys
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: enrolled in Iowa.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 9: I'm like, what the hell is going on here?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: Man?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: So I heard you guys talking about Zoomdiello on Friday,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: right right, and you know you made mention to the fact.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, at what point are you going to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: start seeing other sports get cut?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: And you start seeing that and you know we've seen
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: that across the country. I brought this up, like everyone's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: celebrating ratings and interest in all that. The thing that
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: jumped out at me is that the women's basketball South
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Carolina women's basketball, which is what maybe I mean finished second,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: but one of the top three or four.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Programs for country.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, they have been losing an average of six million
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: dollars a year over the last four years. Huh, Like,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: how does that make people make the schools are making
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: they're not?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: Well, it doesn't.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, at some point in time you'll probably have
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: you know, and I've said this on the year before
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: and now there's other people that are kind of jumping
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: on the wagon.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 9: But I was the pioneer, just se.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I think.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: When I think when I think of people as a pioneer,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: as ride center.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Right, that's right. I think in our lifetime. We're going
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: to see a university that have a team, whether football, fotball, whatever,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: and there's going to be kids or people playing for
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: that team that don't even go to school there. They're
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: going to farm out their image, their likeness, their colors,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: their history, their name. Third party will take over Cougar football,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: Husky football, they'll run it. Yeah, it'd be great if
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: you had students on the football team, but I think
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: you're going to see kids that aren't even in class
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: playing for teams down the road. Well, I mean they're
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: not in class now. Yeah, he's a freaking difference some
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: of these kids.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Most of these kids are going to what is it whatever,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: school whatever and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know Mike Pennis in his last year of
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: college and makes a little different because the guy was
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: in school for fifteen years. But his last year in school,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: I think he was like a big brother mentor that
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: was like what he was doing good for him.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: But that kid also had what three degrees?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah no, I mean like he.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Did the best and there's a value to that.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: Sure, but he's he's a bad example by me because
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: he was already graduated obviously, but the the point is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: that he he had he had one and a half
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: feet out the door as far as academics goes, Yes,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: he was there for football and that's it. And we
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: don't care if they're there for anything else besides football.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 9: So what the hell are we waiting for?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Back back in the day.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Are our friends out at Oregon State when Hurricane Dennis
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: brought the hoosh Manzada and Chad Johnson?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I think your guy was the same way.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: The running back at Washington what was his name, Forty.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 9: Dillan, Corey Dillon. Ye, I don't know if he did
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 9: or not. Man, there's people that claim he never did.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: I would not be surprised if you said, you gotta
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: bet did Corey Dillon ever take one class in person?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: Because there was no online back then, Obviously I'd say
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: I'd probably bet no. But hey, he's still a phenomenal player.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: Ran for three hundred yards in one quarter San Jose
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: stap But he did it?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Is that good?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 9: Very good?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you I was at that game and I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: remember taking yards. Yeah you didn't know that for three
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: hundred yards yard not forty one yards?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: Is my wallet?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: By the way, Andrews back there. I mean, if she's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: gonna call for it, I gotta give it to her.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: You want to hear the original I was asking for it.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: Let's hear the original?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Baby, Sam Donald, what time looking at?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: Get downfield into the zone?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 11: Touchdown Jets, Robbie Anderson and the first TD to of
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 11: Sam donald career cost forty one yards.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: You know what's funny about that clip?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: By the way, what's Sam Darnle now plays for the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: Seahawks and Robbie Anderson's name is Robbie Chosen.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 9: That's how much time has changed since that clip.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 8: That's crazy.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: All right? What's coming up on the two forty five?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 9: Let's see, we're gonna bury your show in the ground.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 9: Burn to the ground, Thank you, next segment.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: Every cuss word I've ever wanted to get out over
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: the air, I'm gonna unleash it. Next segment, Thank you,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: and let you take full credit for it. And then
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: Bill Kruger will join us at three twenty Mike Benton,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: who's calling the game tonight, by the way, over the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: Cracking Audio Network against Minnesota.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 9: They're kind of in a world of hurt right now,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 9: aren't they.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: The Cracking They gotta they gotta kind of get going here,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: and they need some help from a lot of other
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: people too to get going.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: I blame be I blame Ben, Yeah yeah, I think so.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: You blame him tonight as well.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 9: I will.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: I'll rip his ass when he's on the air at
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: three forty five. But you know, this is your fault?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: What what are.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: People are really saying that?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Well, hey, that's how you preface it. People are saying.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: They're saying it's your fault. Text me when the show's over.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 10: Dude.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: If people really saying that, yes, loser, all right, go ahead,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: you're puting your foundation on.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 9: See you later. For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness,
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  Speaker 9: this is paddled Day saying so long everyone,