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Chuck & Buck 5-28 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, is there a place for JP? Get ready... for Apple Cup Sunday? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Much earlier than most.
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Speaker 2: Two.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is torched deep left center field, and god
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Speaker 3: Polio Rodriguez with a bob three run tank in the eighth,
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Speaker 3: his eighth home run this month.
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Speaker 4: Arrog Old Smith and Angie Mensinca on the call. Angie,
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Speaker 4: come on, you need to you need to predict when
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Speaker 4: Julio's going to hit a home run. Stop telling stories
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Speaker 4: while he's hitting homers.
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Speaker 1: Get it together, girl, it would make my life easier.
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Speaker 4: Mariners win yesterday over the A's by a final score
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Speaker 4: of nine to one. They have swept the A's and
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Speaker 4: just like the well oiled machine they've been since the
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Speaker 4: start of the year, they surge in the first place,
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Speaker 4: first place, just.
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Speaker 1: Like we knew they could do.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we had this feeling last week, right when they
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Speaker 5: on Sunday night after they lost to the Royals. Boy, yeah, well,
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Speaker 5: I thought, don't worry. By Thursday, they'll be in first
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Speaker 5: You know, you.
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Speaker 4: Have a vision in your head about how something's gonna go,
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Speaker 4: and then when it happens exactly how you hoped.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 4: Well that's really satisfying.
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Speaker 1: First place in a game under five hundred, like we
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Speaker 1: drew it up.
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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Thanks Mariners. You always keep it interesting
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Speaker 4: even when you're frustrating the hell out of us. Mariners
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Speaker 4: are just twenty eight and twenty nine on the year,
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Speaker 4: certainly a far cry from what we thought they were
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Speaker 4: capable of for their first fifty seven games of the season.
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Speaker 4: But maybe we should just accept the fact that the
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Speaker 4: Mariners don't start playing good baseball until late May and
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Speaker 4: maybe even really June or July. That's kind of been
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Speaker 4: more likely than the past. But lo and behold, even
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Speaker 4: with their sub five hundred record because of the rough
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Speaker 4: season that all teams in our division are off to
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Speaker 4: the Mariners with their sweep of the then first place
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Speaker 4: as have moved to the top of the standing. So
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Speaker 4: here we said at twenty eight and twenty nine, chance
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Speaker 4: to get to five hundred on Friday night at home
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Speaker 4: against the Arizona Diamondbacks. But I'm going to choose to
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Speaker 4: view this as a positive thing. I don't think this
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Speaker 4: team could play worse than they have through their first
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Speaker 4: fifty seven games of the year, and yet they're still
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Speaker 4: a first place team and a day away from not
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Speaker 4: having a.
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Speaker 5: Losing record, and I would love to see that be
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Speaker 5: two games over five hundred by Monday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just sweep the Diamondbacks.
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Speaker 4: Why not.
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Speaker 1: Let's let the winning streak start now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do believe they'll pull away eventually. I don't
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Speaker 4: know if that's going to be just yet, but you know,
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Speaker 4: I don't think everything's ironed out. A lot of wrinkles
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Speaker 4: to this dress, it's true, but I do think that
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Speaker 4: they will pull away eventually, but it probably will happen
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Speaker 4: somewhere beyond June when they start doing that. But it
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Speaker 4: is a sweep of the A's and that feels good.
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Speaker 4: The team hit, not just hit throughout the series, but
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Speaker 4: hit against left handed pitching throughout the series, which is
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Speaker 4: a great sign going forward because that's probably been the
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Speaker 4: number one weakness of this team so far this year.
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Speaker 4: And the starting pitching fantastic. And Sacramento because that is
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Speaker 4: a hitters ballpark there, that is a minor league park,
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Speaker 4: and most of the A's pitchers don't even want to
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Speaker 4: pitch there because it's a hitter friendly. And yet our
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Speaker 4: three starters went out there and mowe fools down. So
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Speaker 4: nine to one the final score yesterday, teams twenty eight
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Speaker 4: and twenty nine on the year. They are first place team.
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Speaker 4: They'll have the day off today to just celebrate that.
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Speaker 4: Ye just soak it all in. Boys, and the red
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Speaker 4: hot hot Arizona Diamondbacks are in town on Friday. They
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Speaker 4: have won five sten o their last eleven, and yet
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Speaker 4: they've played terrible competition during that stretch. So I don't
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Speaker 4: know how red hot the Diamondbacks actually are. We'll talk
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Speaker 4: more about that on tomorrow's show. But the first for
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Speaker 4: Brewed Corps, Light Shoes, Chill. The Apple Cup is going
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Speaker 4: to be played on a Sunday this year. We found
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Speaker 4: that out yesterday. It just keeps looking nothing like that
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Speaker 4: annual rivaled tradition that all of you grew up with, loved, hated,
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Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. We'll talk to Christian Capele
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Speaker 4: about that at nine o'clock on the radio show. Seahawks
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Speaker 4: OTAs continued yesterday. They also made a trade for special
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Speaker 4: teams Menace Irvin Charles from the New York Jets for
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Speaker 4: a seventh round draft pick. We'll talk more about that
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Speaker 4: with Greg here in a matter of seconds. Stanley Cup Playoffs,
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Speaker 4: the Montreal Canadians are on the brink of elimination. They
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Speaker 4: were down three they're down three to one after losing
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Speaker 4: to Carolina four nothing last night. NBA playoffs were dark yesterday,
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Speaker 4: so tonight you'll have Game six of the Western Conference
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Speaker 4: Finals between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the San Antonio Spurs,
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Speaker 4: and they will play that game in Texas. The Storm
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Speaker 4: had their two game winning streak up ended last night
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Speaker 4: by the Washingtonistics, who are not very good, seventy eight
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Speaker 4: to sixty four the final score. So the Storm set
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Speaker 4: at three and five on the year. And we are,
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Speaker 4: according to Ashley anyway, two weeks away from the World Cup,
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Speaker 4: which will begin on the eleventh of.
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Speaker 5: June, two weeks from today. Two weeks from today, you
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Speaker 5: can say two weeks from tomorrow as well.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to be two weeks into the World Cup,
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Speaker 4: and I'm still going to report that we're two weeks
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Speaker 4: away from the World And you know, I like that
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Speaker 4: for you. I'm going to be consistent about it.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're all. That's all we're ever asking for,
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Speaker 1: is consistency.
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Speaker 4: All right, time to talk to Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider.
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Speaker 4: All right, back on the airwaves yesterday. I know how
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Speaker 4: much you missed Chris Kid, and so they celebrated it
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Speaker 4: for two hours yesterday right here at ninety three three
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Speaker 4: kjar dot com. And now he's back with us for
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Speaker 4: a second straight day as well. Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
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Speaker 4: Are you doing. How you feeling great? Do you have
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Speaker 4: a cold or are you just filled with water in
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Speaker 4: your head from your surfing expedition.
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Speaker 2: I have a cold.
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Speaker 6: This is what happens when you go no sleep for
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Speaker 6: a week and fly across the country.
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Speaker 3: That was.
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Speaker 6: As soon as I got on the plane, I'm going
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Speaker 6: to get sick because I yeah, I didn't sleep much
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Speaker 6: graduation week for my daughter back East, a lot of
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Speaker 6: runner around.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, alright, sick, okay, all right, all right, well
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Speaker 4: feel better? Feel better?
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Speaker 6: All right?
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Speaker 4: Well, let's dive into it. Yesterday there was a trade
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Speaker 4: Irvin Charles, now part of the Seahawks for a conditional
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Speaker 4: seventh round pick in twenty twenty eight. Tell us what
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Speaker 4: Irvin Charles brings to the table for John Schneider'sattle Seahawks.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's another move to bolster what was the best
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Speaker 6: special teams unit in the league last year. You know,
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Speaker 6: they drafted last month Emmanuel Henderson in the sixth round
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Speaker 6: out of Kansas to be a gunner outside special teams
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Speaker 6: guy on punt teams also be a punt returner. This
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Speaker 6: trades also for special teams. Irvin his first two seasons
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Speaker 6: he's undrafted. Played at Indiana University of Pennsylvania plus ten
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Speaker 6: State for a little bit, and was undrafted. In twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty three, played for the Jets and excelled in special teams.
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Speaker 6: And that's how rookies make the specially undrafted rookies make
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Speaker 6: an NFL team. So he had to be really impressive,
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Speaker 6: and he was for the Jets, and he for two
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Speaker 6: seasons did that, and then at the end of his
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Speaker 6: second season, week fourteen, he toured the ACL on his knee.
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Speaker 6: He hasn't played since, so he's gone out of the
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Speaker 6: Jets plans and they were going to cut him that
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Speaker 6: the period.
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Speaker 2: So the Seahawks is something of a flyer.
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Speaker 6: When you give a conditional last round pick, you're saying, Okay,
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Speaker 6: you're gonna cut him anyway. We'll take him, and if
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Speaker 6: he becomes something that makes plays and does actually gets
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Speaker 6: on the field and does something for us, we'll owe
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Speaker 6: you that pick. If he does nothing for us, he
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Speaker 6: doesn't make the team, we don't know you much of anything,
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Speaker 6: and that's what the conditional nature of this trade is.
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Speaker 6: So they have Henderson, they have someone that can potentially
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Speaker 6: compete with him now in urban Charles, and so it
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Speaker 6: goes a lot of people think that special teams is
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Speaker 6: time to go to the bathroom and the refrigerator. The
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Speaker 6: Seahawks see it as another chasing edges thing, as Mike McDonald,
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Speaker 6: Causlet and Jay Harvard, the special teams coach, pretty innovative
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Speaker 6: in his schemes, and they're going to get guys. I mean,
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Speaker 6: they've spent fifty one million on special teams when they
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Speaker 6: re signed their Pro Bowl punt returner, So this is
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Speaker 6: a big deal to them and they're adding to it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I find it very interesting. I mean, we have
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Speaker 4: Mike Homran on every week and he backs up and
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Speaker 4: supports the theory that pretty much everybody in football hates
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Speaker 4: kicker and punters. And I know that some of it's
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Speaker 4: done tongue in cheek. I realize that, but there's a
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Speaker 4: little bit of truth in there too. They just frustrate
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Speaker 4: the heck out of them. They're different than everybody else
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Speaker 4: on the roster. And then Hugh does this great breakdown
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Speaker 4: of you know, special teams is not a third of it.
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Speaker 4: I think it's probably more like twenty percent. And even
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Speaker 4: though it's the third phase, it's not an equal phase
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Speaker 4: to offense and defense. And I tend to agree. I
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Speaker 4: tend to walk to that beat that Hugh Mellan plays
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Speaker 4: for us when it comes to special teams. But we've
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Speaker 4: also heard every head coach, whenever given the opportunity to
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Speaker 4: discuss it, always brings up how important special teams are,
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Speaker 4: and yet maybe don't invest in it. And here's John
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Speaker 4: Schneider and Mike McDonald saying we're going to invest in it.
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Speaker 4: Why suddenly do they seem this determined to have the
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Speaker 4: best special teams in the National Football League.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's suddenly, and it's not because they traded up
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Speaker 6: to get Michael Dixon. They've given him what has now
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Speaker 6: become the second highest punter salary in the league. They've
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Speaker 6: resigned Jason Myers a couple times now to making one
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Speaker 6: of the highest kickers in the league. And both of
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Speaker 6: them are two of the best of what they do
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Speaker 6: in the entire football They what Mike what Tee Carroll
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Speaker 6: used to do is at times put starters. I mean
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Speaker 6: Richard Sherman used to return punch for them early in
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Speaker 6: his career, but would use it as a proving ground.
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Speaker 6: Doug Baldwin Jermaine Kurtse to name two undrafted guys who
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Speaker 6: became stars on the team through special teams. First, they
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Speaker 6: used it, Carroll used it as a competition proving ground.
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Speaker 6: Mike McDonald has taken special teams.
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Speaker 2: He's got a.
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Speaker 6: Ton of analytics on field position and Michael Dixon, for instance,
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Speaker 6: punting from midfield instead of punting from the minus thirty
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Speaker 6: or minus thirty five yard line, which means how important
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Speaker 6: a running game and getting a first down or two
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Speaker 6: in each drive is to your success on defense. And
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Speaker 6: we've seen them. Week eighteen against the forty nine Ers
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Speaker 6: was a prime example. McDonald didn't think the forty nine
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Speaker 6: ers offense could drive the field against his defense and
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Speaker 6: score touchdowns, so he played rope a dope field position
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Speaker 6: from the first drive. Remember they went for it on
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Speaker 6: fourth down inside the five yard line on the first
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Speaker 6: drive of the game. They didn't get it, and everyone's like,
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Speaker 6: what are they doing? Well, McDonald said, even if I
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Speaker 6: don't get this first down.
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Speaker 2: He told me this after the game.
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Speaker 6: He said, even if I don't get this first down.
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Speaker 6: I like our chances with our defense with ninety five
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Speaker 6: yards for the opponent that's tried to drive the score touchdown,
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Speaker 6: and he played the whole game that way and they
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Speaker 6: won thirteen to three. The game plan against San Francisco
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Speaker 6: to win the NFC West and get the number one
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Speaker 6: seed in the conference playoffs in Week eighteen last year
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Speaker 6: was get first downs to midfield and then either punt
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Speaker 6: or make big try to make your big play, big
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Speaker 6: splash plays down the field in the pass game from
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Speaker 6: the fifty yard line.
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Speaker 2: It worked.
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Speaker 6: They won thirteen three, and it wasn't really close because
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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers on I had one chance to
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Speaker 6: score a touchdown the whole game, and largely not the.
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Speaker 2: Whole It was a little different, but largely that was
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl game.
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Speaker 6: Playing against the Patriots. He used special teams to keep
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Speaker 6: the Patriots backed up inside their own twenty five yard
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Speaker 6: line the whole game and said, there's no way Drake
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Speaker 6: may is going to run this offense down my defense's
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Speaker 6: throat to score touchdowns.
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Speaker 2: And they won easily.
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Speaker 6: It should have been twenty nine nothing, and then at
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Speaker 6: twenty nine thirteen at the end with garbage points that's
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Speaker 6: how important special teams is to him. And he's had
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Speaker 6: all kinds of numbers to show. If I can have
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Speaker 6: guys who can punt cover punts to keep returners from
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Speaker 6: getting yards after the return and I can gain I
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Speaker 6: can go trade for with John Schneider trading, I can
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Speaker 6: go trade for the best returner and get plush yards
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Speaker 6: on kickoffs and punts. With Rashid Shahed, I'm going to
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Speaker 6: win because of my defense. And he won the Super
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Speaker 6: Bowl in the biggest regular season game of last year,
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Speaker 6: turned out consequentially wise doing just exactly that. That's how
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Speaker 6: important special teams is.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm a little surprised, and we need to
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Speaker 4: move on from this topic because I want to get
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Speaker 4: into another big topic with you. But I'm a little
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Speaker 4: surprised that. I mean, this league's a copycat league. Every
13:11
Speaker 4: time there's a new offense and that offense looks successful,
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Speaker 4: six teams try to duplicate or make a version of
13:18
Speaker 4: that the very next year with their hirings that they have.
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Speaker 4: Or if there's a breakthrough defense, you know, usually there's
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Speaker 4: five teams that try to have that same breakthrough defense
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Speaker 4: or a version of it the following year and here.
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Speaker 4: The Seahawks win a Super Bowl unexpectedly, at least based
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Speaker 4: on the way the season started last year, and they
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Speaker 4: did it in large part not for being strong on
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Speaker 4: special teams. And we did not see that copycat exercise
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Speaker 4: taking place this offseason throughout the National Football League. But
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Speaker 4: perhaps that's more of a topic for another day. I
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Speaker 4: want to get into ownership with you. What's going on
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Speaker 4: on that front. We've gone from an ice cold market
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Speaker 4: to a red hot market all of a sudden.
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Speaker 6: Well it depends what you believe, but it took until
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Speaker 6: the first week of May for multiple bidders to arise,
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Speaker 6: and once multiple bidders emerged, then the sale could proceed.
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Speaker 6: You can't have a sale for the highest possible price,
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Speaker 6: which is what the Paul G. Allen Trust demands that
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Speaker 6: Joey Allen sell to. You can't have the price drive
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Speaker 6: up and really have a sale unless you have competing bids,
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Speaker 6: multiple competing bids, and they didn't have that until the beginning.
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Speaker 2: Of Mark that May.
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Speaker 6: Now, it's not that long since they went on for
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Speaker 6: sale at the end of February, officially until the beginning
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Speaker 6: of May, but once potential buyers emerged with competing bids.
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Speaker 6: Then all of a sudden, the market takes because now
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Speaker 6: you have a competition and you can drive up the price.
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Speaker 6: And now the talk is it could go ten billion
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Speaker 6: or more. Ten billion is the record for North American
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Speaker 6: sports franchises.
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Speaker 2: The Lakers.
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Speaker 6: The Bus family sold it to the investment group by Mart.
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Speaker 2: Walker Walker Walter. Excuse me.
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Speaker 6: It's like Matthow Mark Walter last year and the NBA
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Speaker 6: proved got in the fall for ten billion. That's an
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Speaker 6: North American record. The NFL record is six billion. It
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Speaker 6: looks like this could push ten billions. So last night
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Speaker 6: on Pat McAfee's and ESPN show, Ian Rappaport reports that
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Speaker 6: the market is quote robust, and then he thinks he's
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Speaker 6: been told by people in the league that the owners
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Speaker 6: could have a meeting in August. Now that usually comes
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Speaker 6: from ownership circles because if the league thinks the sales
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Speaker 6: about to happen, they will get it done to try
15:31
Speaker 6: to get all the franchise evaluation set as soon as
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Speaker 6: they can. So if there's an imminent choosing of bids,
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Speaker 6: they'll have a meeting to vote on which bid to take.
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Speaker 6: And Rappaport thinks that could happen as early as August,
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Speaker 6: and he said last night on the air that he
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Speaker 6: thinks there's a possibility the Seahawks are sold before the
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Speaker 6: season begins. Of course, that's September ninth. The only two
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Speaker 6: known groups that we've heard of in the last three weeks.
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Speaker 6: Sporting Got reported that Adida mattal and Wick Grossbeck. Grossbeck
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Speaker 6: we used to be the primary owner of the Boston Celtics.
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Speaker 6: But Tall he's an Indian steel magnet who contributed to
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Speaker 6: that bid with he was a co owner of the Celtics.
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Speaker 6: Then those two had one bid and then a few
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Speaker 6: hours later that same.
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Speaker 2: Day, May seventh.
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Speaker 6: Then at Kosha is a billionaire Sun Microsystems guy from
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Speaker 6: the Silicon Valley who last year took bottom minority stake
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Speaker 6: in San Francisco forty nine ers. He'd have to divest
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Speaker 6: from that. By the league rules, he can't own two teams,
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Speaker 6: so he'd have to divest from that. It wouldn't be
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Speaker 6: a big deal because he's a minority stakeholder. He's worth
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Speaker 6: Karsho's worth over fourteen billion dollars. Forbes says, So now
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Speaker 6: you have your two competing bids.
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Speaker 2: Now you have a market.
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Speaker 6: Now you can command a price, which is what Jody
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Speaker 6: Allen has been charged to do by your brother's trust.
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Speaker 2: That's where this all came from.
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Speaker 6: If you only have one bidder, you really don't have
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Speaker 6: a competition. And now that there's two, the market suddenly
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Speaker 6: becomes hot.
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Speaker 4: All right, So help me understand it? Maybe I should,
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Speaker 4: maybe I should already understand it. But how much of
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Speaker 4: this is the NFL weighing in on who they sell
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Speaker 4: it to? And how much does Jody Allen and the
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Speaker 4: Allen Trust have say? And who do you sell it to?
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Speaker 4: And I'm asking that because I would think Jody Allen
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Speaker 4: wants to control like the character of the person that
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Speaker 4: she's giving it to. Where I wonder if the NFL
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Speaker 4: just would want top dollar so and maybe it's vice versa.
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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we got to worry about it being vice versa.
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Speaker 4: So how who gets to actually get the way in
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Speaker 4: on who gets the who gets to buy the team?
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Speaker 4: And then what do you will it just go to
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Speaker 4: the top bidder, because that's when Seahawk fans start to
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Speaker 4: worry that you've sold to the wrong guy who's going
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Speaker 4: to come in here and try to change everything because
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Speaker 4: he's an egomaniac.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's both because, first, as I understand the language
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Speaker 6: and Paul Allen's will to selling the Blazers and the Seahawks,
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Speaker 6: it's highest bidder to drive the highest price because remember,
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Speaker 6: these sales aren't going to Jody Allen's pockets, They're going
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Speaker 6: to the philanthropic interest to Paul Allen. All the things
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Speaker 6: that he's selling, all of it to see exploration, the
18:12
Speaker 6: space exploration, his third world healthcare issues, all of the
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Speaker 6: things that Paul Allen had and are selling are supposed
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Speaker 6: to go to his philanthropic interest, not for profit. So
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Speaker 6: that makes this somewhat unique in professional sports. Normally, you
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Speaker 6: drive the price up as high as you can because
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Speaker 6: you sold it for a certain price and you want
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Speaker 6: to drive it as much value out of.
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Speaker 2: It as you can.
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Speaker 6: Think Howard Schultz and the Sonics before I turn off
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Speaker 6: the rest of your audience in one word, but that's
18:41
Speaker 6: what you do now. Having said that, the NFL is
18:46
Speaker 6: a very select old white men's basically there's a few exceptions,
18:49
Speaker 6: but white Men's Boys Club think Jerry Jones, think Robert Kraft.
18:55
Speaker 6: They want people who are exactly a certain type who
18:58
Speaker 6: can hang at the country club in the ears.
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Speaker 2: And be their guys.
19:02
Speaker 6: They don't need any renegades or people that aren't thinking
19:05
Speaker 6: like they do.
19:06
Speaker 2: By and large, there are a couple.
19:07
Speaker 6: Exception Jacksonville Jaguars in front of them, but that's basically
19:10
Speaker 6: the cut and mold they want to keep so that
19:12
Speaker 6: they can have this really close net like minded ownership corps.
19:18
Speaker 6: I mean, there aren't a lot of ten billion dollars
19:20
Speaker 6: people walking around and will invest in the NFL team.
19:24
Speaker 6: And ultimately, to your point, the NFL owners, by ratifying
19:28
Speaker 6: the sale, have the final say on who.
19:29
Speaker 2: They approve for the Seahawks sale.
19:32
Speaker 6: But I can tell you that the Paul Allen family,
19:35
Speaker 6: Jody Allen, the legacy that the Allens have built here
19:39
Speaker 6: owning the Seahawks for going on thirty years is so
19:43
Speaker 6: respected around the league that they will defer to the
19:46
Speaker 6: Jody Allen's decision, in her lawyer's decision on who's going
19:49
Speaker 6: to sell this team by this team. And of course
19:52
Speaker 6: the expectation is for the highest market price, so every
19:55
Speaker 6: other franchise valuation can go.
19:57
Speaker 2: Up to Yeah.
19:59
Speaker 6: Well, but I hear you, because if you're in Portland
20:01
Speaker 6: right now listening to this year, like wait a minute
20:04
Speaker 6: the Clouds show that just bought the Blazers is talking
20:06
Speaker 6: about not being able to afford T shirts and cutting
20:08
Speaker 6: people out of going to playoff trips.
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Speaker 2: I don't want that, and see I get it.
20:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, are we just going to vet? Are we just
20:14
Speaker 4: going to vet a guy so that he can cover
20:16
Speaker 4: the bill? I would like for it to be vetted.
20:20
Speaker 4: I think every Seahawks fan wants to be vetted. Beyond that,
20:22
Speaker 4: what kind of owner are we going to get?
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Speaker 6: I asked Bert Cole at the Super Bowl about this,
20:27
Speaker 6: and mainly it was in the lens of how can
20:30
Speaker 6: you assure Seahawks fans that whoever buys the team wouldn't
20:33
Speaker 6: think of moving it? And he said, well, I can't
20:36
Speaker 6: just come out into the blanket statement of that, but
20:38
Speaker 6: I can say this, Greg, Paul Allen and his family
20:41
Speaker 6: when they bought the Seahawks to beginning behind the Seahawks
20:43
Speaker 6: in eineteen ninety seven, have done it as a trust
20:47
Speaker 6: of the Pacific Northwest in the community, and we aren't
20:49
Speaker 6: going to portray that trust in so many words, That's
20:51
Speaker 6: what he told me in the San Jose Convention Center
20:54
Speaker 6: meeting with at a press conference with Roger Goodell on
20:57
Speaker 6: the Tuesday of the Super Bowl. So if I take
21:00
Speaker 6: him at his word, he's a vice chair right with
21:03
Speaker 6: Jody Allen betting these bids. If I take him out
21:05
Speaker 6: his word, he's going to have an eye on the
21:08
Speaker 6: very concern you're talking about.
21:09
Speaker 4: Right, all right, what do you got for the show today?
21:12
Speaker 2: We're going to do. We're going to talk more about
21:14
Speaker 2: this sale.
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Speaker 6: We're going to talk about the competing bid process and
21:17
Speaker 6: why this has all of a sudden become warm, and
21:19
Speaker 6: expand on that. At eleven o'clock we entire to Keith McPherson.
21:22
Speaker 6: He used to be a Wfan radio host in New York.
21:25
Speaker 6: He now has his own online Mike Check Sports Talk.
21:28
Speaker 6: So you're going to talk about the Knicks, haven't been
21:30
Speaker 6: this first time, they've been in the NBA finals since
21:32
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety nine, of course, and how viable are the
21:35
Speaker 6: next to win the NBA. A lot of people think
21:36
Speaker 6: whoever wins the West is going to win it, neither
21:38
Speaker 6: Spurs or Thunderson. We'll talk to them at eleven and
21:41
Speaker 6: go from there.
21:42
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, thank you sir, We appreciate it. We'll
21:45
Speaker 4: be listening at ten and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: All right, happy plays there?
21:50
Speaker 4: All right, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insigner. You can follow
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Speaker 4: dot com. Coming up next. Yes, we've already talked about
22:04
Speaker 4: the Mariner sweep in Sacramento, the fact that they surged
22:08
Speaker 4: the first place in the American League West fifty seven
22:11
Speaker 4: games into the season. But we've got some other things
22:14
Speaker 4: to discuss as well, including JP Crawford and what his
22:18
Speaker 4: future holds now that Colt Emerson looks like he is
22:21
Speaker 4: here to stay. We'll talk about that next on Sports
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Speaker 4: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. All good morning to you. No, no, no,
22:40
Speaker 4: let me correct that great morning to you.
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Speaker 1: Makes a big difference right there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we likes taking another step here on this show.
22:50
Speaker 4: We don't like to do half measures. Why would we
22:52
Speaker 4: wish you just a good morning, boring? Yes, we want
22:56
Speaker 4: the best for you, which is all you want out
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Speaker 1: And a confidant apparent.
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you can't bring anything else to the table,
23:09
Speaker 4: you just want those people to want the best for you.
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Speaker 4: That's what you've got in Ashley and I want.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, actually, great morning, Chuck Ashley with you coming
23:19
Speaker 4: up a little bit later on in the show, Christian
23:21
Speaker 4: Capele is going to join us at nine o'clock talk
23:24
Speaker 4: about the Apple Cup being moved, also something that we'll
23:28
Speaker 4: discuss ourselves a little bit later on in this radio program.
23:32
Speaker 4: But Mariners win it last night by or yesterday afternoon
23:35
Speaker 4: by a final score of nine to one. So they
23:38
Speaker 4: sweep the A's and roll in to today knowing that
23:43
Speaker 4: they are a first place team. Despite the frustrating start
23:46
Speaker 4: to their season fifty seven games in, still a game
23:49
Speaker 4: under five hundred and yet in the water down thus
23:52
Speaker 4: far American League West, they are top dog right now,
23:56
Speaker 4: moving past the A's, Let's see if they can get
23:59
Speaker 4: on a heater going going forward. Obviously, JP Crawford has
24:02
Speaker 4: been at the heart of a lot of our conversations,
24:05
Speaker 4: and I've been critical. I will even admit. I mean,
24:09
Speaker 4: we had a segment Ashley and I a week and
24:11
Speaker 4: a half ago called fair or unfair where I was.
24:15
Speaker 4: I know that I've been at times even crossed the
24:18
Speaker 4: line in my criticism, Like there have been times where
24:21
Speaker 4: I've at least brushed upon being unfair toward JP. And
24:26
Speaker 4: sometimes that happens to a talk show host. You know,
24:29
Speaker 4: you get animated and you're getting worked up a little bit,
24:31
Speaker 4: you're all lathered up and you're criticizing somebody, and sometimes
24:35
Speaker 4: you push it a little too far and you may
24:37
Speaker 4: say something that you shouldn't have said. But nonetheless, I
24:42
Speaker 4: think what has been made abundantly clear is that I've
24:46
Speaker 4: been very critical of JP Crawford, and I think deservedly so.
24:49
Speaker 5: Frankly, Ashley, Yeah, I do think he's earned criticism this year.
24:53
Speaker 5: He has not been I wouldn't even say perfect, because
24:56
Speaker 5: we don't expect anyone to be perfect, right, but he
24:58
Speaker 5: has not been very good at short stuff. He has
25:00
Speaker 5: made quite a few errors, and then he isn't making
25:03
Speaker 5: up for it at the plate consistently.
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Speaker 4: I agree. I think that's well said. That puts it
25:07
Speaker 4: in a nutshell right there. Now. We did commend him
25:10
Speaker 4: yet last week praised him quite thoroughly throughout the course
25:14
Speaker 4: of an entire show for his gesture his self awareness,
25:19
Speaker 4: his announcement last week that hey, maybe cold Emerson's the
25:24
Speaker 4: best guy for this job at shortstop, but I would
25:26
Speaker 4: like to be given a chance at third because all
25:29
Speaker 4: I want to do is play, and I want to
25:31
Speaker 4: be a Mariner for life, and I want a World
25:33
Speaker 4: one and World championship with this team this year. And
25:36
Speaker 4: we love that and that is a part of JP Crawford.
25:40
Speaker 4: Now you get why he is beloved in that locker room,
25:44
Speaker 4: why he's the guy that holds the trident for everybody.
25:47
Speaker 4: I mean, they all think the world in that locker
25:50
Speaker 4: room of JP Crawford, and that's valuable. That certainly is valuable.
25:54
Speaker 4: And yet he needs to play better, there's no question
25:58
Speaker 4: about it. And we did see an outstand play from
26:00
Speaker 4: him yesterday defensively at shortstop, and there is some thought about,
26:05
Speaker 4: you know, maybe those throwing errors that he's made this
26:08
Speaker 4: season have everything to do with him being banged up.
26:12
Speaker 4: Right now, something's not right with JP defensively, and so
26:17
Speaker 4: I brought this up to Ryan Healey, and I brought
26:20
Speaker 4: it up from this standpoint like, Okay, that's nice that
26:23
Speaker 4: he's going to volunteer his position. Eventually, I thought that's
26:27
Speaker 4: would have already happened JA coold Emerson at shortstop, but
26:31
Speaker 4: I asked Ryan who played. Of course, third base in
26:34
Speaker 4: a large part of his major league career. What makes
26:37
Speaker 4: us think he's got a strong enough arm to play
26:40
Speaker 4: third base? Here's Ryan Healey.
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Speaker 7: Well, first off, these none of these guys are playing
26:44
Speaker 7: one hundred percent healthy. I know JP has got a
26:46
Speaker 7: couple hit by pitches off of that right arm, and
26:49
Speaker 7: being a left handed hit or that, that right arm
26:51
Speaker 7: is leading and no matter how many pads you have
26:53
Speaker 7: on that throwing arm, like, you can still find some
26:56
Speaker 7: soft spots in there. I think he's gotten smoked in
26:58
Speaker 7: the tricep a little bit. I think he got one
27:01
Speaker 7: and like the lower lat and all of those muscles
27:03
Speaker 7: were contributing to throwing. I think JP had always contributed
27:07
Speaker 7: his arm strength to his footwork through the baseball, and
27:10
Speaker 7: that's hard to do it third base with just how
27:12
Speaker 7: quickly the ball gets on you. But it doesn't mean
27:14
Speaker 7: you can't do it. I know we've probably seen some
27:17
Speaker 7: Brendan Donovan struggles at third base this year because of
27:19
Speaker 7: the lack of arm strength and the ability to have
27:22
Speaker 7: a rifle like Matt Chapman where you can sit back
27:24
Speaker 7: on the ball and then just let one rip. I
27:26
Speaker 7: remember watching him do that for a lot of years.
27:28
Speaker 7: And it was really frustrating because I didn't have that
27:30
Speaker 7: arm either. But I know that I know that he
27:33
Speaker 7: would be serviceable over there, but there are definitely some
27:36
Speaker 7: certain plays going to his backhand side towards the line,
27:41
Speaker 7: and if he ends up taking that negative route'd be tough.
27:44
Speaker 7: But I don't remember Kyle Seger having an absolute cannon
27:47
Speaker 7: over there. He was just really good at moving through
27:50
Speaker 7: the baseball. Then his transfer was super clean, and also
27:52
Speaker 7: he was just beyond accurate with his throws thrown from
27:55
Speaker 7: multiple arm angles, So it's doable. Are they willing to
27:59
Speaker 7: experiment with that in the middle of a major league
28:01
Speaker 7: season when they're already under five hundred I don't know. Yeah,
28:04
Speaker 7: And I think that's probably the biggest question mark right now.
28:07
Speaker 7: And the reason why we haven't seen it executed yet
28:09
Speaker 7: is because they're uncertain right now as well.
28:12
Speaker 4: You're that you've been around the team so J that's
28:15
Speaker 4: Ryan Healy on the JP Crawford yesterday or Tuesday, and
28:19
Speaker 4: his arm strength, So I don't know if that gives
28:23
Speaker 4: me any comfort. Obviously they're gonna go cold Emerson at shortstop.
28:28
Speaker 4: I don't know why it's taking so long. I guess
28:31
Speaker 4: that there's an element of just JP doesn't feel quite
28:34
Speaker 4: comfortable there. I mean, I when they surprise Cayl Ripkin,
28:37
Speaker 4: like you're not going to play shortstop anymore. He pretty
28:39
Speaker 4: much went from shortstop to third after like one round
28:42
Speaker 4: of infield.
28:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.
28:43
Speaker 1: I keep checking the lineup every day to see if
28:45
Speaker 1: it's changed, and it hasn't.
28:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm sure they're not. I mean, I know
28:49
Speaker 4: they're not making the change because JP doesn't feel comfortable
28:52
Speaker 4: enough at third yet. Because obviously Colt has been playing
28:56
Speaker 4: shortstop all season long for Tacoma and been playing it right,
29:00
Speaker 4: very well, and so it's not about cold Colt's ready
29:04
Speaker 4: to move to shortstop, but it's so they're clearly not
29:07
Speaker 4: making the move because JP's not ready to move to third,
29:10
Speaker 4: even though he is mentally ready to do it. He's
29:13
Speaker 4: announced it to the world like emotionally ready to do it.
29:16
Speaker 4: Apparently he's not physically ready to make that move.
29:20
Speaker 1: It makes me more nervous.
29:21
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, I think that maybe that maybe okay,
29:25
Speaker 4: maybe he's emotionally ready, maybe he's not mentally ready, but
29:28
Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll ever be physically ready. And
29:31
Speaker 4: this is going to be an interesting, an interesting decision,
29:35
Speaker 4: and obviously we just went through this piggyback situation, where
29:38
Speaker 4: again I don't think it is a terrible idea. I
29:41
Speaker 4: didn't think that going in. I thought it was a
29:43
Speaker 4: really interesting idea. And again it has not been a disaster,
29:48
Speaker 4: even though a lot of people are trying to paint
29:50
Speaker 4: it that way. But if there have been two flaws
29:53
Speaker 4: with the piggyback, it is Ah, maybe we learned a
29:56
Speaker 4: lesson that in a one run game we kind of
29:59
Speaker 4: have to throw the piggyback rules out and then just
30:02
Speaker 4: go with the rules we usually are governed by in
30:05
Speaker 4: one run games. And then the second thing that we
30:07
Speaker 4: learned is, Hey, if we're going to do this to
30:10
Speaker 4: two established starting pitchers, especially one of the leaders in
30:13
Speaker 4: the clubhouse, maybe we should have a conversation and make
30:15
Speaker 4: sure they both understand.
30:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that they could recite it back to us
30:19
Speaker 1: what the plan is.
30:20
Speaker 2: Right.
30:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe we should have been a little more thorough
30:24
Speaker 4: about letting Bryce and Luis in on exactly what we
30:27
Speaker 4: were doing, how we're going to do it, and why
30:30
Speaker 4: we are doing it. And yet we're going to have
30:33
Speaker 4: another wind of these decisions coming up. Actually, Brendan Donovan's
30:36
Speaker 4: going to be back soon. He was not great defensively
30:39
Speaker 4: at third base, but he was much better offensively than
30:43
Speaker 4: JP has been this season. And frankly, if JP's got
30:47
Speaker 4: cold feet now about making that movie, if he doesn't
30:49
Speaker 4: feel quite comfortable, Donovan was getting better at third base
30:53
Speaker 4: with every game that he played over there. And so
30:56
Speaker 4: we are once again going to have this moment where
31:00
Speaker 4: Donovan's going to come off the injury list and they're
31:04
Speaker 4: gonna have to make a decision on what you do
31:06
Speaker 4: with JP. Crawford. Cold Emerson has not been overwhelmed by
31:10
Speaker 4: the moment. He's hitting and we already know he's faster
31:14
Speaker 4: than JP, he's better defensively than JP. He's got a
31:17
Speaker 4: stronger arm than JP. Cold Emerson should be our shortstop
31:21
Speaker 4: right now. So if JP wants to play third, that's
31:25
Speaker 4: one thing. Can he play third? We haven't found out yet.
31:29
Speaker 4: When are we going to find out? Because don't we
31:31
Speaker 4: have to find out before Donovan gets activated from the
31:34
Speaker 4: injury list, And what if he can't play third, what
31:37
Speaker 4: is JP's role going forward? Because there's no way you're
31:40
Speaker 4: keeping Brendan Donovan's bat out of this lineup for JP Crawford,
31:45
Speaker 4: and that is the part about all of this that
31:48
Speaker 4: really needs to be announced. I like valuing leadership in
31:53
Speaker 4: a clubhouse. In baseball, I think it gets undervalued. I
31:56
Speaker 4: think this organization, I think this front office has been
31:59
Speaker 4: guilt of undervaluing chemistry. Absolutely clubhouse leadership. I think they've
32:05
Speaker 4: been guilty of it many times. And yet it's still
32:10
Speaker 4: first and foremost about who's the right guy for the job.
32:14
Speaker 4: I'm not sure there's a place for JP. If Donovan
32:19
Speaker 4: comes back, he's your third baseman, and I don't think
32:22
Speaker 4: JP in his two to twelve batting average and his
32:26
Speaker 4: sub seven hundred ops and the fact that he's striking out.
32:30
Speaker 4: He struck out thirty six times in forty eight games,
32:33
Speaker 4: which is not JP.
32:34
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's got a better eye than that.
32:37
Speaker 4: The JP we need to have. If he's going to
32:40
Speaker 4: occupy one of the nine spots in the everyday lineup,
32:45
Speaker 4: it can't be the one that is trying to hit
32:47
Speaker 4: a home run and we'll top out at twenty this year.
32:51
Speaker 4: I don't need that JP. What I need is the
32:53
Speaker 4: guy that gets on base thirty eight percent of the
32:56
Speaker 4: time because he's got a great eye that puts the
32:58
Speaker 4: ball in play like he did yesterday, and that might
33:01
Speaker 4: lead to a few a couple. You know, he had
33:05
Speaker 4: three hits yesterday just by he didn't sting the ball,
33:08
Speaker 4: just putting the ball in play.
33:09
Speaker 1: That's all you got to do.
33:10
Speaker 4: But he also struck out two times yesterday. So I
33:13
Speaker 4: don't need the JP that hits home runs and strikes out.
33:16
Speaker 4: I need the one that gets walks, puts the ball
33:18
Speaker 4: in play, and sprays the ball around the field. Because
33:22
Speaker 4: we also no longer have the JP that has good
33:25
Speaker 4: foot speed. He is titanically slow, like he was going
33:30
Speaker 4: to be out by fifteen feet. If Jeff McNeil made
33:33
Speaker 4: the right play yesterday at second base and didn't try
33:36
Speaker 4: to throw it to first and get Josh Naylor and
33:39
Speaker 4: throw it into the dugout, that was the most important
33:41
Speaker 4: play of the game because it led to a Rob
33:43
Speaker 4: Resnier three run homer, which we should have never had
33:46
Speaker 4: the opportunity to do. But even Jeff McNeil was like, hey,
33:50
Speaker 4: it's a shortstop getting a lead off first base. There's
33:54
Speaker 4: no way I have a shot at getting him at second.
33:57
Speaker 4: And not only did you have a shot, you had
33:59
Speaker 4: him out by a mile, by a country mile. By
34:02
Speaker 4: a furlong. You had JP Crawford out at second base,
34:06
Speaker 4: So he's not bringing much to the table right now
34:10
Speaker 4: beyond leadership. And if you're can't field and you can't throw,
34:14
Speaker 4: and you aren't putting the ball in play consistently, I'm
34:19
Speaker 4: not sure I can fight for you to have a
34:22
Speaker 4: spot in our starting nine once all things are equal.
34:25
Speaker 4: So JP, nice gesture last week, and I'm glad because
34:30
Speaker 4: you've opened the door for the kid the better shortstop
34:33
Speaker 4: to take over for the rest of the season. But
34:36
Speaker 4: I just ashlely. I just can envision like it's a
34:40
Speaker 4: lock that JP stays in our lineup anywhere.
34:43
Speaker 5: No, And I don't think that he thinks that, which
34:45
Speaker 5: is why he's volunteering, you know, part of why he's
34:47
Speaker 5: volunteering as well and mo over to third because he said,
34:50
Speaker 5: I'll do anything to help this team.
34:52
Speaker 1: I do think after the fact that this came.
34:55
Speaker 5: Out last week and now we're a week later and
34:57
Speaker 5: he still hasn't moved a third makes me pretty sure
35:00
Speaker 5: that he was the one that went to the team
35:01
Speaker 5: and said, hey, I want to do this, versus them
35:03
Speaker 5: coming to him and saying, hey, what do you think
35:05
Speaker 5: about trying this out because I think it seems like
35:09
Speaker 5: they don't have a lot of confidence in his ability
35:12
Speaker 5: to play third, or he'd already be there. Yeah, And
35:15
Speaker 5: so I do think then again, that gives him more
35:18
Speaker 5: credit for the leadership thing, which I know is not
35:20
Speaker 5: the most important thing, but it is because of the
35:24
Speaker 5: fact that he it seems like he did go do
35:26
Speaker 5: that on his own and talked to his agent and
35:28
Speaker 5: didn't wait for the team to come to him and
35:30
Speaker 5: tell him something.
35:31
Speaker 1: It does worry me for him that there.
35:34
Speaker 5: Isn't a spot, like you said, especially because I just
35:37
Speaker 5: would have expected to see him, As I said, I
35:39
Speaker 5: checked the lineup every day. I'm like, Okay, it is
35:41
Speaker 5: today the day the JP's at third. Nope, no, again
35:44
Speaker 5: he's not. And I don't know how long they're going
35:47
Speaker 5: to wait.
35:47
Speaker 4: I mean there was. I mean, Brendan Donovan's most success
35:50
Speaker 4: is a Major League baseball player has been as a
35:52
Speaker 4: super utility player with the Saint Louis Cardinals. And there
35:55
Speaker 4: might be a decision that, hey, we can use Brendan
35:58
Speaker 4: Donovan and he can most every day, maybe not every day,
36:02
Speaker 4: but most every day, and he might play some left field,
36:05
Speaker 4: and he might play some right field, and we got
36:07
Speaker 4: the DH spot that we can use him in. Maybe
36:10
Speaker 4: he get I mean Cole Young never gets a day off.
36:12
Speaker 4: Maybe he gets a day off at second base Cole
36:14
Speaker 4: every once in a while. And then of course, yes,
36:16
Speaker 4: he can play third base as well. So I can
36:20
Speaker 4: see that where you might say, hey, after further review,
36:24
Speaker 4: rendon Donovan might be best for us as a super
36:29
Speaker 4: utility player, and then that opens up third base for
36:32
Speaker 4: JP Crawford. But we keep delaying seeing JP Crawford play
36:37
Speaker 4: third base. I would like to get a little bit
36:40
Speaker 4: of a sample size because right now I can't imagine
36:44
Speaker 4: he's going with that arm banged up the way that
36:47
Speaker 4: it is, that he's going to be a better option
36:49
Speaker 4: at third base than what Donovan is going to be.
36:53
Speaker 4: And then if Donovan comes back, are we then going
36:58
Speaker 4: to give JP his trial third once Donovan returns. It
37:02
Speaker 4: seems weird because that seems weird to be doing that
37:05
Speaker 4: in the middle of a you know, you're trying to
37:07
Speaker 4: win a division. And then if Donovan is your third basement,
37:12
Speaker 4: how does JP play over Dom Canzone as DH or
37:17
Speaker 4: Luke Rayley as DH.
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Speaker 1: I just I don't see the argument for it.
37:22
Speaker 4: I don't see it either, so I don't know what
37:25
Speaker 4: role that he has on the team. So you know,
37:27
Speaker 4: I've been hypercritical of him this year, that segment we
37:31
Speaker 4: just completed or getting ready to wrap up, has been
37:33
Speaker 4: hyper critical of him.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's unfair.
37:36
Speaker 4: I don't think it's unfair. And I was complimentary of
37:40
Speaker 4: what his gesture was last week. But pretty much that's.
37:44
Speaker 2: All it is.
37:44
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, are you good enough
37:47
Speaker 4: to play every day for us or not?
37:48
Speaker 1: And I would love to see it work.
37:50
Speaker 5: I really sure, And I'm glad you said that, yeah,
37:52
Speaker 5: because that's the thing is, Yeah, you can be hypercritical,
37:55
Speaker 5: but you're not wishing bad on him. You're just pointing
37:59
Speaker 5: out facts. You know, where is he going to fit
38:01
Speaker 5: in and how is he going to contribute. I would
38:03
Speaker 5: love nothing more than for him to go to third
38:06
Speaker 5: and it to be the best decision this team's made.
38:08
Speaker 1: I would love that.
38:09
Speaker 4: I want JP to be able and his last year
38:12
Speaker 4: as a Mariner because I think it is to be
38:15
Speaker 4: able to play every day on a World championship team
38:18
Speaker 4: be awesome. I would love to see that. But what
38:21
Speaker 4: is going to be required of him is I need
38:24
Speaker 4: an arm that can make the throw from third or short. Yeah,
38:28
Speaker 4: and then if you're going to be a DH, I
38:32
Speaker 4: can't have strikeout twenty homer hitter, JP Crawford. I need
38:37
Speaker 4: three seventy five on base, puts the ball in play
38:40
Speaker 4: almost every time, gives me a quality at bat almost
38:43
Speaker 4: every time, JP Crawford, and I'm not getting that either.
38:47
Speaker 4: So he's kind of in a race against the clock
38:50
Speaker 4: number one to get to third base to show if
38:52
Speaker 4: he can play that position before Donovan is activated. And
38:56
Speaker 4: then secondly, he's also an a race again against the
39:00
Speaker 4: clock offensively to prove that he's worthy of playing every
39:04
Speaker 4: day on a team envisioning winning a World Series this year.
39:09
Speaker 4: And I don't know when Donovan's coming back because they
39:12
Speaker 4: never give us updates on injuries. My gosh, it's like
39:15
Speaker 4: being allowing a college football program. But according to CBS Sports,
39:20
Speaker 4: Brendan Donovan is expected to come back June fifth.
39:23
Speaker 2: There we go. We are.
39:26
Speaker 4: A week away, a little over a week away, yeh
39:29
Speaker 4: from Brendan Donovan being activid. That's how long you have
39:32
Speaker 4: And we haven't watched JP play one pitch.
39:36
Speaker 1: And maybe they'll do it homestand this weekend.
39:39
Speaker 4: Coming up next on the radio program get ready, Poppell,
39:42
Speaker 4: it's the Apple Cup Sunday of our Dream Sports Radio
39:46
Speaker 4: ninety three point three KHRFM. Well, he ended up having
39:49
Speaker 4: some of them their children.
39:51
Speaker 1: I hear, Oh, they always getting the way.
39:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, and all of a sudden his mornings are like, oh, mornings.
39:57
Speaker 4: You don't know what mornings are like, buddy. And so
40:00
Speaker 4: it's been a while since we've chatted with him, but
40:02
Speaker 4: apparently the children are turning out all right in the
40:06
Speaker 4: Caple household or child I don't know.
40:09
Speaker 1: I can't tell you.
40:11
Speaker 4: Because he's like, I can do nine now, the zoo
40:15
Speaker 4: has been tamed by nine.
40:17
Speaker 2: There you go.
40:18
Speaker 1: Maybe the children child are in school.
40:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's been a while. Like I said, I've
40:23
Speaker 4: probably lost track of time. For all I know, they're
40:25
Speaker 4: eighteen now.
40:26
Speaker 1: That would be quite a track of lost consciousness.
40:31
Speaker 4: Well, empty nester Christian Capele will join us today at
40:34
Speaker 4: nine o'clock to talk about Huskies football and the Apple Cup,
40:38
Speaker 4: which is being moved around again, and this time not
40:42
Speaker 4: even I mean it's been on Fridays, it's been on Saturdays.
40:48
Speaker 4: It's been for the most part in your lives, the
40:52
Speaker 4: last game of the year, and now most recently it's
40:55
Speaker 4: been moved to the too early part of the season
40:58
Speaker 4: and then to the first game of the year, like
41:00
Speaker 4: it's going to be this year. And not only is
41:02
Speaker 4: it going to be the first game of the year
41:04
Speaker 4: instead of the last game of the year, Ashley, it's
41:07
Speaker 4: going to be on a Sunday for the first time ever.
41:10
Speaker 4: I mean, if the Apple Cup came walking down the street,
41:13
Speaker 4: would you even recognize it anymore?
41:15
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, I absolutely will.
41:17
Speaker 4: Like a mustache and dark glasses. Now, it's like it's
41:20
Speaker 4: like lost a bunch of weight. It's gone.
41:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is completely just a different thing.
41:24
Speaker 5: And it almost seems like by putting it on a Sunday,
41:26
Speaker 5: by putting it as the solo game, that they're trying
41:29
Speaker 5: to say.
41:30
Speaker 1: Like, no, look, it's still a big deal. But sadly,
41:33
Speaker 1: it is not still a big deal. Do Is it
41:36
Speaker 1: a football game? A college football game?
41:37
Speaker 2: Yes?
41:37
Speaker 1: And is that great? Sure, you know, let's celebrate that.
41:40
Speaker 5: But the rivalry, the significance of the game isn't even
41:46
Speaker 5: remotely close to what it used to be because you know,
41:48
Speaker 5: there was opportunities in the past for somebody to, you know,
41:52
Speaker 5: for one team to knock the other team out of
41:54
Speaker 5: winning the Pac ten or the Pac twelve or whatever
41:57
Speaker 5: iteration of the conference we were in at the time,
41:59
Speaker 5: and you had the chance to knock your rival out
42:01
Speaker 5: of doing something great with their season.
42:04
Speaker 1: And I suppose, yeah, you still have that.
42:06
Speaker 5: But you've got you've got the Huskies who are in
42:09
Speaker 5: the Big Ten, who are in the middle of the
42:13
Speaker 5: pack of the Big Ten. So are you really ruining
42:15
Speaker 5: their season if you beat them? If you're the Kogs, no,
42:19
Speaker 5: probably not. You know, is it embarrassing for them? Probably
42:21
Speaker 5: more so now than it used to be. But and
42:24
Speaker 5: then if you're the Huskies and you beat the Kugs,
42:26
Speaker 5: well that's what's expected. So it's just I don't know,
42:29
Speaker 5: it's it's lost so much of it's luster. Sadly, I
42:32
Speaker 5: hate it.
42:32
Speaker 4: Well, it's just something that was so prestigious and celebrated
42:37
Speaker 4: and uh you and not unique to college football. Everybody's
42:41
Speaker 4: got a rivalry, but special here in the state of Washington.
42:44
Speaker 2: Yes.
42:45
Speaker 4: And then two, I mean it's just keeps having little
42:48
Speaker 4: bites taken out of it and so and yet then
42:53
Speaker 4: you're trying to just like put makeup over it, yeah,
42:57
Speaker 4: and then still present it like, oh you should love this.
43:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
43:02
Speaker 4: But I mean it's almost I mean, I think it's
43:06
Speaker 4: still a big deal. I think it's really still worth watching.
43:09
Speaker 4: I think that it should be kept going forward. But
43:13
Speaker 4: when you just keep reducing it one chunk at a time,
43:16
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm sure they're trying to sell this as no, no, no,
43:20
Speaker 4: we're trying to make this more marquis, that it has
43:22
Speaker 4: a stage to itself, and trying to create some sort
43:24
Speaker 4: of special uniqueness about it, seems like, and trying to
43:27
Speaker 4: put it on Sunday. But I don't think it's going
43:29
Speaker 4: to be received that way at this point. It's kind
43:33
Speaker 4: of like seeing Laura Flynn Boyle. You know, you know
43:36
Speaker 4: when she started off and she was pretty, and then
43:38
Speaker 4: she had one little bit of surgery done and you're like, Okay,
43:42
Speaker 4: I don't think you needed to do that, but you're
43:44
Speaker 4: still still very pretty. Maybe maybe you know, there's something
43:49
Speaker 4: kind of extra about you right now. And then she
43:51
Speaker 4: had a second proceeded, like oh wait, what happened?
43:56
Speaker 6: Balloon?
43:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then all of a sudden there's a third procedure,
43:58
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudd sudden you're like, oh,
44:00
Speaker 4: you just don't look good, and then all then the
44:02
Speaker 4: fourth procedure you're like, you're unrecognizable, and then the fifth
44:06
Speaker 4: procedures like please don't.
44:08
Speaker 1: Ever show your face now. I want to google Laura
44:09
Speaker 1: Flyn Boyle and see what she looks like these days,
44:12
Speaker 1: you know.
44:13
Speaker 4: But that's kind of what it's turning into. And I
44:16
Speaker 4: don't know. I guess this is attempt at putting it
44:19
Speaker 4: in a special place to try to make it feel
44:23
Speaker 4: special again, but it does seem to just keep having
44:27
Speaker 4: a chunk take taken out of it a year after
44:30
Speaker 4: year after year, and frankly, and I felt this way
44:32
Speaker 4: the moment the conference split up. I just don't think
44:36
Speaker 4: it will be a part of the schedule. I mean,
44:38
Speaker 4: Ocloma and Oklahoma State are no longer part of their
44:41
Speaker 4: schedule anymore, and that was just as long and heated
44:44
Speaker 4: a rivalry as this one. I think there will come
44:47
Speaker 4: a time in the not so distant future that it
44:49
Speaker 4: is not even part of the schedule.
44:51
Speaker 5: And that sucks because those are the things that made
44:53
Speaker 5: college football so special. And you know, I know that
44:56
Speaker 5: I always sound like I'm down on college football. I'm
44:58
Speaker 5: not down on the Huskies, I'm not down on the
45:01
Speaker 5: idea of college football. I'm just the things that made
45:04
Speaker 5: it so special are getting taken away bit by bit,
45:09
Speaker 5: as you said, And rivalries are one of the things
45:11
Speaker 5: that made it so special, and you take those away
45:13
Speaker 5: or make them less important, and it just sucks so
45:16
Speaker 5: much of the fun out of it. And I just
45:18
Speaker 5: want college football. I know it's never going to go
45:20
Speaker 5: back to the way it was, and that makes me sad.
45:23
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they've definitely made them less important. As a
45:25
Speaker 4: matter of fact, they're not really putting much importance on
45:27
Speaker 4: rivalries at all anymore. If it works out and the schedule, great,
45:31
Speaker 4: but there, I mean, Notre Dame in usc is going
45:34
Speaker 4: away for goodness, and I hate it all right, Coming
45:36
Speaker 4: up next, JSN is he unstoppable? We're going to talk
45:42
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