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Previewing Week 12 vs. Cardinals with Spero Dedes, Arik Armstead and More · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: We've arrived at Week twelve.
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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with you with the countdown to kickoff interviews
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Speaker 2: ahead of the Jaguars and the Cardinals. Let's start this
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Speaker 2: week with the Jaguars offensive line coach Son Seret with
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Speaker 2: Brian Sexton after a dominant performance last week.
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Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean I've been in this league, you know,
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Speaker 3: coming on a lot of years, and that's what you hunt.
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Speaker 3: You know, you sit there, you preach it as a
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Speaker 3: coach to the players, saying you can take over a
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Speaker 3: game running the ball, and you know they hear it.
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Speaker 3: It's just not giving it lip service.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: Our coordinator, which is our head coach, really took it
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Speaker 3: to heart and he just kept calling those runs.
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Speaker 5: Man, is it the personality of this team to run first?
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Speaker 5: It's a quarterback driven league.
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Speaker 6: I get that.
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Speaker 5: But when I talk to Robert Hansey, when I see
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Speaker 5: how interchangeable some of the parts that you've put together
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Speaker 5: are when they get in there, it sures seems like
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Speaker 5: this is a run first team.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of teams want to talk about identity,
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Speaker 3: and that's something we talk about. We want to be
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Speaker 3: the kind of team that strikes first, you know, and
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Speaker 3: strikes hard. You know, it's just one of those deals.
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Speaker 3: And you know, we have no problem with running the
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Speaker 3: ball and run it again and then run it again.
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Speaker 3: That's the kind team we want to be.
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Speaker 5: You've had to do a lot of different things. I mean,
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Speaker 5: Ezra Cleveland, do I think he's played very well? Has
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Speaker 5: to miss a game. You plug a guy in and
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Speaker 5: he goes, Anthon Harrison can't play. Plug Cole van Landon
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Speaker 5: and it goes, how difficult is it to build that
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Speaker 5: sort of cohesiveness no matter who you've got.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's hats off to those guys, those young guys.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 3: You know, you know, Cole van Landon did a hell
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Speaker 3: of a job. You know, he didn't blink a bit.
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Speaker 3: You know, he went in and played guard and then
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Speaker 3: you know, next week we said, hey, man, we need
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Speaker 3: you to play tackle. He's played the jumbo tight end,
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Speaker 3: he's done all three positions. You know, I tipped my
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Speaker 3: hat to him. There's a guy that's showing what he's worth,
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Speaker 3: you know, and he did it at a high level
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Speaker 3: at all three positions. And we appreciate that. And that's
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Speaker 3: what the expectation in the room is. You know, we
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Speaker 3: want guys that can come in and play multiple positions.
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Speaker 5: A bunch of guys on the defensive side talked about
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Speaker 5: playing angry last week. If you can just go back
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Speaker 5: to that week between Houston and Los Angeles, what was
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Speaker 5: the mindset of your team, because that was a resounding
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Speaker 5: win last week, what was the mindset? And then how
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Speaker 5: do you replicate that after a win as opposed to
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Speaker 5: a law.
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Speaker 3: Well, at the end of the day, it's the standard.
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Speaker 3: It's been set, you know, the head coach is set
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Speaker 3: the standard of saying, you know, hey, we got to finish,
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Speaker 3: you know, and we didn't finish against the Texans. And
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Speaker 3: you know, we made a big point of that during
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Speaker 3: the week. We did it at practice, you know, in
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Speaker 3: our meetings everything, you know, that was emphasized, you know,
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Speaker 3: and those guys took it to heart, you know, and
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Speaker 3: they didn't let up. You know, it's just one of
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Speaker 3: those deals. And even in the game, they were still
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Speaker 3: fired up about you know, let's run the ball more,
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Speaker 3: let's do this, and you know, they really took it
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Speaker 3: to the heart and finished.
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Speaker 5: At this time, it's probably easier to do after a
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Speaker 5: loss than a win. So how do you, as the
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Speaker 5: offensive line coach keep that mentality on finish in a
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Speaker 5: week where you win thirty five to six.
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Speaker 3: Well that once again, that goes to them. You know,
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Speaker 3: I can sit there and I can give it lip service,
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Speaker 3: but the end of the day, they're the ones that's
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Speaker 3: going to drive it, you know. And you know, we
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Speaker 3: had this conversation the beginning of the year. We're going
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Speaker 3: to go as the old line goes, you know, And
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Speaker 3: it's and that's any NFL team, lit's sens breal. If
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Speaker 3: you've got problems on the line, you got problems and
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Speaker 3: people know it shows real fast.
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Speaker 5: Do you have an appreciation for number ninety three in Arizona?
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Speaker 5: Kala As Campbell is a guy who's been playing, I
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Speaker 5: mean a long time.
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Speaker 7: How difficult is he to defend?
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Speaker 8: Oh?
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Speaker 6: Man, he has been around a long time.
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Speaker 3: Like you said, I can remember my days and with
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Speaker 3: the Steelers and him over at the Ravens, and you know,
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Speaker 3: an eighteen year guy. You know, it's unbelievable, you know,
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Speaker 3: and he's thirty nine or thirty eight years old, and
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Speaker 3: it's just like I'm sitting there thinking, to man, I
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Speaker 3: know how I felt at thirty eight, thirty nine. There's
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Speaker 3: no way I could have done this you know, you know,
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Speaker 3: hats off to him. There's a guy that's still doing
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Speaker 3: it at a high level and we you know it's
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Speaker 3: gonna be a tough week for our guys inside and
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Speaker 3: they know it. And just the type of player he is, I've.
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Speaker 7: Been a final thought.
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Speaker 5: You're in your first year here in this program, six
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Speaker 5: and four off to a great start. Robert Hainsey's here
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Speaker 5: in his first year coming over from Tampa to help
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Speaker 5: instill the system that Liam brought with him. How how
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Speaker 5: strong is the relationship that you've developed with Robert and
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Speaker 5: how valuable is he to you as the offensive line coach?
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's He's priceless to us man, he's the he's
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Speaker 3: our field general, you know, and you know it's the
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Speaker 3: idea of him being able to communicate not only with
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Speaker 3: the guys in the room, but with other positions, and
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Speaker 3: everybody looks to him for answers, you know, and you know,
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Speaker 3: even me sometimes I got to realize how he's playing
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Speaker 3: a certain way and how he sees things, you know,
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Speaker 3: and that's just how it is, you know. But he's
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Speaker 3: done an unbelievable job and that's somebody you know that's
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Speaker 3: going to be here for a long time with us.
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Speaker 2: Spirouddas has the call of the game again this week
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Speaker 2: on the NFL on CBS. It's the second of three
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Speaker 2: straight Jags games. His crew will call the NFL on
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Speaker 2: CBS back out of this week the Jaguars and the
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Speaker 2: Cardinals coming up.
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Speaker 1: Spirou Addas also had the call of the Chargers Jaguars
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Speaker 1: game last week.
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Speaker 2: Great to see you against Bureau and I don't know
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Speaker 2: how many people sold that kind of performance coming, but
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Speaker 2: it tells you a lot about maybe where this team's
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Speaker 2: going down the stretch.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was a significant moment for Liam Cohen
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Speaker 4: and the staff. I thought it was a significant moment
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Speaker 4: for the team because, as you know, when you have
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Speaker 4: an experience or traumatic experience the way they had the
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Speaker 4: week before against the Texans, that next game is so
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Speaker 4: critical and I think so often tells you about the
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Speaker 4: character and the makeup of a team, and so to
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Speaker 4: have the performance that they did against the Chargers team
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Speaker 4: JP that came in confident, the way that they were playing,
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Speaker 4: they just knocked off for a confident Pittsburgh team.
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Speaker 1: The week before.
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Speaker 4: I thought it says a lot about the team. I
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Speaker 4: thought it was a big moment for Liam his message
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Speaker 4: I think is clearly resonating. That's always an encouraging sign
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Speaker 4: for a team that's trying to climb the ranks and
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Speaker 4: as send the way that they are, And I just thought, overall,
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Speaker 4: if I'm a Jacks fan, really encouraging sign because I
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Speaker 4: think that truly was the significant psychological hurdle that they
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Speaker 4: that they cleared on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Jaguars defense, I mean, put together an incredible
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Speaker 2: performance against one.
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Speaker 1: Of the top offenses in football.
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Speaker 2: I guess the question now is that sustainable because we've
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Speaker 2: seen some of that this year then has gone away
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Speaker 2: for a while. How do they sustain that moving ahead?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think when you can affect the quarterback the
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Speaker 4: way that they were able to on Sunday and really
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Speaker 4: defanged an offense that again was really starting to play well.
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Speaker 4: I know the Chargers have had O line issues and
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Speaker 4: protection issues, but Justin Herbert has had a really, you know,
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Speaker 4: all pro type season and he just never looked comfortable
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Speaker 4: in that game. And I think when you can do
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Speaker 4: that upfront with your front, it masks some issues that
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Speaker 4: you have on the back end. And clearly Jacksonville right
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Speaker 4: now has some injuries in the secondary and that part
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Speaker 4: of the field that I think is a concern for sure.
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Speaker 4: But if Trayvon Walker, if josh Heinz Allen can get
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Speaker 4: to the quarterback to the way that they did on Sunday,
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Speaker 4: I think it is sustainable. But you know, we're just
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Speaker 4: gonna have to wait and see how they look this
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Speaker 4: week and over the next couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: Be really this with a CBS sports.
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Speaker 2: On the offensive side, they had five offensive linemen on
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Speaker 2: the injury report last week going into the game. For those,
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Speaker 2: one of those was a starter that didn't play. Of course,
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Speaker 2: four of them total were starters. But they showed to physicality,
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Speaker 2: didn't They almost two hundred yards rushing, and that that's
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Speaker 2: what this offense it feels like Liam Cohen said it
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Speaker 2: after the game, that's what they are.
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Speaker 1: They're a physical brand of football up front.
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Speaker 2: And if they're doing that then they're in pretty good
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Speaker 2: shape with a quarterback balancing him out as well.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think look, when you just to your point,
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Speaker 4: I thought the offensive line played really well. I was
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Speaker 4: very impressed with cole Van Lannon. You know, last couple
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Speaker 4: of weeks, he's been plugged in at multiple positions and
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Speaker 4: he's performed really well. I think last week he had
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Speaker 4: basically a clean sheet, didn't allow sack, didn't allow pressure,
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Speaker 4: was solid in the run game, and so I thought,
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Speaker 4: you know, he quitted himself very well. And this has
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Speaker 4: always been the thing with Jacksonville, at least in the
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Speaker 4: last couple of years. They just their offensive line. They
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Speaker 4: just have never been able to truly figure it out,
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Speaker 4: whether it be injuries, whether it be guys underperforming. And
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Speaker 4: the one thing that I think is most impressive when
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Speaker 4: you look at what Liam and James Gladstone are trying
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Speaker 4: to build, is that that tough, physical brand of football.
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Speaker 4: And I think if you can give Trevor Lawrence an efficient,
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Speaker 4: powerful run game, I think it just takes so much
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Speaker 4: pressure off his shoulders and it balances what they can
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Speaker 4: possibly be offensively. But you know, I remember we had Jacksonville,
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Speaker 4: I think week two or three JP when we sat
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Speaker 4: with Liam the first time I had met with him
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Speaker 4: in a setting like that where he really kind of
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Speaker 4: went through what his offensive philosophy is. We walked out
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Speaker 4: of that meeting thinking, boy, if they can figure this
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Speaker 4: out and put this plan to fruition this, they could
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Speaker 4: really have something. And I think his philosophy of physical,
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Speaker 4: smash mouth football is something that lends it lends itself
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Speaker 4: to sustainable success in this league. And I thought that
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Speaker 4: that second half Sunday was really one of the first
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Speaker 4: times we've seen what it can truly look like on
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Speaker 4: the field and in real time.
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Speaker 2: Spirodda's CBS Sports has to call the Jaguars and the
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Speaker 2: Cardinals quick look at Arizona. I mean, this is a
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Speaker 2: beat up football team. For their seven captains are on
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Speaker 2: ir this year. They're deep down on the running back room.
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Speaker 2: Of course, the quarterback is Jacoby Brissett now with Kyler
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Speaker 2: Murray on injured reserve. But Brissett throws forty seven completions
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Speaker 2: last week NFL record. They're up against it. They had
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Speaker 2: to throw it around to try to get back in
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Speaker 2: the game.
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Speaker 1: But Brissett. Do they have any spark here in Arizona?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I think the Cardinals are in a really they're in
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Speaker 4: a bad spot. Two weeks ago, they were down thirty
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Speaker 4: five nothing to Seattle before halftime, and the very next
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Speaker 4: week you get blown out at home again to a
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Speaker 4: division opponent. I mean that game was never competitive against
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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, so a lot of those numbers
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Speaker 4: from Jacoby Brissette.
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Speaker 1: I love Brissett.
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Speaker 4: I'm one of his biggest fans. I think he's you know,
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Speaker 4: he's proven himself to be very serviceable quarterback in this
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Speaker 4: league for a long time. Beloved in every locker room.
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Speaker 4: He's been in a lot of those numbers. You know,
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Speaker 4: if we're being honest, probably a little empty. You know,
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Speaker 4: you're down by twenty plus points. You're just trying toss
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Speaker 4: it around, like you said, make plays. This was an
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Speaker 4: Arizona team JP as you know, they went into the
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Speaker 4: season year three of this regime with Jonathan gan and
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Speaker 4: Manteasin Ford. They were expected to contend for a playoff spot.
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Speaker 4: So to look at where they are three and seven,
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Speaker 4: they've lost seven of their last eight games, and now
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Speaker 4: they're real questions about do they have to move on
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Speaker 4: from Kyler Murray. So I think that they're in a
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Speaker 4: spot that no franchise wants to be in. You know,
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Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of people that expect
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Speaker 4: there to be a potential coaching change. Does Jonathan Gannon
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Speaker 4: even make it to the end of the season. Those
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Speaker 4: are all the questions that they're having to ponder an
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Speaker 4: answer right now In Arizona. Not a fun time to
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Speaker 4: be a fan of the Cardinals.
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Speaker 1: Not at all.
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Speaker 2: It's always a fun time to be a fan of
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Speaker 2: Kalais Campbell, though, eighteenth year in the National Football League,
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Speaker 2: five sacks, still impacting the game. I mean last year,
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Speaker 2: the guys in handcuffs two hours before the Jaguars game
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Speaker 2: and then comes out with a sack and a TfL
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Speaker 2: in the first two plays. This guy has unlimited petrol
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Speaker 2: in his tank, I think.
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Speaker 4: And I bet he had a smile on his face
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Speaker 4: later that day when he finished playing that game.
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Speaker 3: You know he is.
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Speaker 4: He is a physical mare. I think everyone knows that
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Speaker 4: a guy at his size to be able to play
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Speaker 4: now into the age of forty with the punishment that
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Speaker 4: you take at that position is one thing. The other
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Speaker 4: thing that strikes me, And we've had a chance to
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Speaker 4: sit with Kalais now multiple times over the last couple
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Speaker 4: of years, with all these different stops that he's experienced,
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Speaker 4: and Adam rcha Letta brought this up. When you're a
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Speaker 4: veteran player in the NFL who's been a star early on,
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Speaker 4: and as you age and your role is decreased more
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Speaker 4: often than not, not by your choice, but the coach's
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Speaker 4: choice because of maybe diminishing skills or just father time,
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Speaker 4: you tend to become a little bitter as a player,
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Speaker 4: and Arch has said that the biggest thing that strikes
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Speaker 4: him once you get past all the physical stuff.
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Speaker 1: Is just his disposition is so is so amazing.
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Speaker 4: He's still so positive and such a team oriented guy.
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Speaker 4: He's accepted his lesser role. He's been just like a
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Speaker 4: god send in every locker room he's been in, whether
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Speaker 4: it be Miami, whether it be now with the Cardinals,
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Speaker 4: And I just think that makes him even more unique
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Speaker 4: with all the other stuff that we marvel at with him,
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Speaker 4: all the physicality and just the sheer size of him
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Speaker 4: as a person. You know, if you sit with him
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Speaker 4: in the same room, that's the only time you can
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Speaker 4: truly appreciate just how large of a man he is
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Speaker 4: and his physical skill set to be able to move
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Speaker 4: the way he does and be so nimble. But he's
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Speaker 4: just he's an incredible guy. I think, you know, you
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Speaker 4: can make a pretty good argument that he should be.
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Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame one day, and obviously has
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Speaker 2: an impact on what Josh heinz Allen learned.
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Speaker 1: As a rookie. They were teammates together.
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Speaker 2: You see that weekend and week out, the way he
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Speaker 2: goes about his business.
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Speaker 1: All right, Spiro, have a great call. We'll do it
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Speaker 1: again next week. I guess right.
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Speaker 4: Sounds good, brother.
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Speaker 2: CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco visits with Mike Dempsey
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Speaker 2: each and every week.
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Speaker 9: You know, Mike, it was I thought it was a
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Speaker 9: telling week for that. I really did, you know, coming
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Speaker 9: off of a disastrous loss the way he did, and
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Speaker 9: you know, blowing the fourth to the fourth quarter lead
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Speaker 9: to a backup quarterback. You could go one of two ways,
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Speaker 9: and I think Liam Cone did a great job getting
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Speaker 9: back refocused and you know, getting them and getting their
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Speaker 9: heads into it, and you can clearly see they were
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Speaker 9: a different football team. They were physical from the start,
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Speaker 9: the mistakes were limited, and I think as a group
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Speaker 9: it might have been their best game of the year.
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I totally agree. It was their best game
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Speaker 10: of the year. But do you think we're past that
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Speaker 10: hurdle now? Is this the focused effort we'll get on
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Speaker 10: a week to week basis or is it still hold
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Speaker 10: your breath and hope?
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Speaker 9: Well, I think, Mike, I think in the NFL it's
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Speaker 9: told your breath and hope, because there's always the ups
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Speaker 9: and then there's always the down. Even for the good teams,
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Speaker 9: the experienced teams, you've seen that this year. So when
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Speaker 9: you have a young team, this is one of those
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Speaker 9: weeks where you come off of victory where you feel
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Speaker 9: good about yourself and you've got to go back out
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Speaker 9: on the road and you've got to get refocused again.
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Speaker 9: You can't allow it to go back down. So again,
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Speaker 9: you would think that they would. Last week did a
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Speaker 9: really good job for kind of getting out of that pattern.
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Speaker 9: But let's see, because again, you got to stack those
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Speaker 9: Until they start stacking them, then you won't truly believe
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Speaker 9: that they can get beyond that.
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Speaker 10: I like to see them stack that running game that
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Speaker 10: they had last week.
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Speaker 6: Pete.
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Speaker 10: It was great early in the season. It seems to
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Speaker 10: be coming around again here.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 10: Is this something you think they'll be able to rely
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Speaker 10: on over the final seven weeks of the season.
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Speaker 9: Well, you would think so, and I think that's ideally
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Speaker 9: what they want to do. I mean, they were physical
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Speaker 9: and you watch the tape and the offensive line.
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Speaker 6: Got after it.
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Speaker 9: I you know, Ezra Cleveland was really good, Hainesy was good,
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Speaker 9: and McCarry's been good the last couple of weeks, and
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Speaker 9: you know, Cole Van Lennon filling in a right tackle
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Speaker 9: was good. So the answer to your question is yes,
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Speaker 9: I think that's what they want to do, whether it
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Speaker 9: be you know, with Tutin, whether it be with you know, EPN.
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Speaker 9: They want to run the ball and take the pressure
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Speaker 9: off the passing game, and I think they did a
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Speaker 9: great job of that last week.
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Speaker 10: Jacobe Myers has come in and led the team in receiving,
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Speaker 10: not eye popping numbers, but consecutive weeks since he's gotten here, Pete,
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Speaker 10: are you surprised by how big his impact has been already?
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Speaker 9: No, He's a pros pro and you can see it
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Speaker 9: in the way they respond to him. But you could
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Speaker 9: see it on the field too. I mean he's a glider,
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Speaker 9: he knows how to sit down and zones, he knows
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Speaker 9: how to beat man coverage. You know, when you look
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Speaker 9: at additions to this team, I think it was a
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Speaker 9: great one. And look, they had problems at wide receiver,
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Speaker 9: They've had injuries at wide receiver, and getting a guy
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Speaker 9: like that to come in and be a PROS pro
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Speaker 9: and show those guys how to do it and show
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Speaker 9: the fact that he can be an effective player in
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Speaker 9: the middle of the field. I think that's big for
15:14
Speaker 9: that team. It's big for Trevor Lawrence.
15:16
Speaker 10: Well, speaking of problems that wide receiver, we learned earlier
15:18
Speaker 10: in the week that the Arizona Cardinals will be without
15:21
Speaker 10: Marvin Harrison Junior for the second consecutive week, following an
15:23
Speaker 10: appen deck to me. But their passing game was on
15:26
Speaker 10: point last week. Michael Wilson had a huge game, Greg
15:29
Speaker 10: Dortsch was very good, and Trey McBride's been outstanding all
15:32
Speaker 10: season long. And Jacoby Brissett said an NFL record with
15:36
Speaker 10: forty seven completions. How much pressure is this passing game
15:39
Speaker 10: going to put on the Jags this week?
15:41
Speaker 9: Well, I think McBride is number one, and you know
15:43
Speaker 9: that he's been outstanding, and I think you have to
15:47
Speaker 9: do everything you can to take him away. A couple
15:49
Speaker 9: weeks ago, they had all kinds of problems with brought
15:51
Speaker 9: Bowers and they got in some bad situations and matchup issues.
15:56
Speaker 9: You know, they got blocked in with the safeties. You
15:58
Speaker 9: can't do that. The safeties can't be in man. The
16:00
Speaker 9: man coverage with Trey McBride is going to eat him alive.
16:02
Speaker 9: So I think you got to do a lot of
16:03
Speaker 9: things to try and take him away. And if the
16:06
Speaker 9: other guys, if Wilson and Doors and that group and
16:08
Speaker 9: they beat you, then have at it. And I think
16:11
Speaker 9: that's going to be the focus of the defense. I
16:13
Speaker 9: think that'll be priority number one.
16:14
Speaker 6: Now.
16:14
Speaker 9: It's easier, said that done, to take away try and
16:16
Speaker 9: take away a guy like McBride. I would double them,
16:18
Speaker 9: beat him up, do everything I can to take him
16:20
Speaker 9: out of the game and let those other guys beat you.
16:22
Speaker 10: All right, give us a kind of an X factor player, Pete,
16:25
Speaker 10: somebody from the Jags that you think could have a
16:27
Speaker 10: big impact on this game that we haven't discussed so far.
16:30
Speaker 9: I think when you look at the backhand, I think
16:32
Speaker 9: you know the safety both of them have to play big,
16:36
Speaker 9: and there's been games where both those guys have had
16:39
Speaker 9: problems back there. And when they've had problems, one being
16:43
Speaker 9: you know, getting caught in bad situations. For Winger when
16:46
Speaker 9: he's matched up, he's athletically limited, matched up in one
16:49
Speaker 9: on one situations, he's been beat and Antonio Johnson, who
16:52
Speaker 9: had an interception last week, getting caught in some situations
16:55
Speaker 9: where he doesn't, you know, exactly play the defense the
16:58
Speaker 9: right way. If those two guys can play sound football
17:01
Speaker 9: and they're gonna be big and trying to take away McBride,
17:04
Speaker 9: then I think the defense can limit what they do
17:06
Speaker 9: in the passing game. So I put those two on
17:08
Speaker 9: the radar.
17:08
Speaker 10: A big opportunity for the Jags to get to seven
17:11
Speaker 10: and four peak. Do they get the job done today?
17:14
Speaker 9: I think they do. I think they're a better team.
17:16
Speaker 9: I think that you know, yeah, there's gonna be some
17:18
Speaker 9: emotional letdown. You got to go across the country. You're
17:21
Speaker 9: playing a team you should beat. But if this team
17:23
Speaker 9: is what we think they can be and what they
17:25
Speaker 9: showed last week, they go out there and they win
17:28
Speaker 9: the game today. So I'm taking I'm taking the Jaguars
17:31
Speaker 9: to win the game.
17:31
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle Eric Armstead is put together a solid campaign
17:34
Speaker 2: so far, and he caught up with Brian Sexton in
17:37
Speaker 2: the locker room.
17:38
Speaker 11: I think just having a growth mindset, getting better and
17:41
Speaker 11: better as the season goes on, and you know, down
17:44
Speaker 11: the stretches where you want to be playing your best football.
17:46
Speaker 11: So just keeping our foot to the pedal and keep
17:49
Speaker 11: getting better.
17:50
Speaker 5: I'm not asking to beat your chest, But it your
17:52
Speaker 5: seems like this defensive line feeds off of your energy.
17:55
Speaker 5: Is that something that you focus on my energy being
17:59
Speaker 5: that guy for that defensive line group.
18:01
Speaker 11: I just wanna, you know, make plays and how my
18:03
Speaker 11: team win games. And that's always been my mindset. So
18:07
Speaker 11: we got a really good group that I love being around,
18:09
Speaker 11: and you know, we're having fun out there.
18:12
Speaker 5: What did it mean to you guys to have the
18:14
Speaker 5: young guys coming off the edge last week? I mean
18:16
Speaker 5: both Danny and BJ contributed in a pretty good way.
18:19
Speaker 11: Yeah, that was great to see, you know them them
18:22
Speaker 11: get an opportunity and contribute. You know, we would believe
18:26
Speaker 11: in everyone on our our d line that when they're
18:29
Speaker 11: out there, they're going to contribute and play well. So
18:33
Speaker 11: that was great to see.
18:34
Speaker 5: Been on teams that have gone deep into the playoffs
18:36
Speaker 5: to the super Bowl. You know, this team has been
18:38
Speaker 5: a bit up and down at times in its history,
18:40
Speaker 5: not just this year.
18:41
Speaker 7: How do you how do you take a huge.
18:44
Speaker 5: Win and come back and play consistently as a team
18:48
Speaker 5: and not not ride the roller coaster for a season.
18:51
Speaker 11: I think you got to learn how to win games
18:53
Speaker 11: in certain fashions and I think, you know, last week.
18:57
Speaker 6: Uh, with a big lead, we we can.
19:00
Speaker 11: Need to attack and you know, have that sense of
19:03
Speaker 11: urgency and so.
19:06
Speaker 6: You know, it's game. Every game is different.
19:08
Speaker 11: There's gonna be times where it's a you know, back
19:12
Speaker 11: and forth and it's gonna come down in the wire
19:13
Speaker 11: and someone's gonna have to make a play and executing
19:16
Speaker 11: a pressure situation. Or it's gonna be times where you
19:18
Speaker 11: know you're having to fight back for a lead or
19:21
Speaker 11: times where you're having to protect the big leads. So
19:24
Speaker 11: it's just learning learning how to win in those different situations.
19:28
Speaker 5: You know, this Area Zona team better than most in
19:30
Speaker 5: this locker room. Jaguars have only played there twice in
19:32
Speaker 5: thirty one years. Their record isn't great, but it looks
19:37
Speaker 5: like there's enough dangerous players there that they can ruin
19:40
Speaker 5: your day.
19:41
Speaker 6: Arizona's a good team.
19:42
Speaker 11: Like I said, you can't sleep on anybody in this league,
19:44
Speaker 11: and they have great players all over their offense, defense,
19:48
Speaker 11: and special teams. And you know, I've I've played against
19:50
Speaker 11: a bunch of them throughout my career being in that division.
19:53
Speaker 11: So we're gonna have to, you know, come out there
19:57
Speaker 11: with that same sense of urgency like I'm talking about.
20:02
Speaker 6: And you know, jump on him fast.
20:05
Speaker 7: Really, you're in a great spot.
20:07
Speaker 5: With five and a half sacks, it seems like you
20:09
Speaker 5: have put together a really good season with half the
20:11
Speaker 5: season left to go. Does it feel like your best
20:13
Speaker 5: season in a while.
20:17
Speaker 11: I don't know, somewhat definitely better than last season. And
20:22
Speaker 11: that was a focus on mind to to switch back
20:25
Speaker 11: to playing inside. And you know, I had a lot
20:29
Speaker 11: playing this offseason. Uh what I wanted to show out
20:33
Speaker 11: there on the field this year. You know, I've had
20:36
Speaker 11: some good seasons, So yeah, I would say it's it's
20:39
Speaker 11: up there, but got a lot more to do.
20:42
Speaker 5: Let's wrap with this some kalays Campbell's in his eighteenth season.
20:44
Speaker 5: He's a guy we know a little bit around here.
20:46
Speaker 5: You obviously know him. How about an appreciation? Do you
20:49
Speaker 5: have one for a guy that can play that long
20:50
Speaker 5: at that high of a level in this game?
20:52
Speaker 6: Much appreciation? Uh? Kalais?
20:54
Speaker 11: I really feel like paved the way for a tall
20:56
Speaker 11: defensive lineman like me. You know, he showed what was
20:58
Speaker 11: possible when people were questioning, you know, if being too
21:03
Speaker 11: tall was was a negative and not being able to
21:05
Speaker 11: play with leverage and.
21:07
Speaker 6: All those things.
21:08
Speaker 11: And you know, Kalais was my player comp coming out
21:11
Speaker 11: of coming out of college, and you know, he really
21:13
Speaker 11: showed what tall defensive linemen are capable of. And you know,
21:18
Speaker 11: he's a mentor, big homy of mine. So much admiration
21:22
Speaker 11: for him and what he's doing in his career, and
21:24
Speaker 11: he's he's inspiring me. And you know, I don't know
21:27
Speaker 11: if I'm a play eighteen, but you know he's continued
21:31
Speaker 11: to inspire me each each and every year and show
21:34
Speaker 11: what you can do playing at a super high level.
21:38
Speaker 11: You know, when you're kind of getting up there in
21:42
Speaker 11: age and people might not people might not expect that
21:45
Speaker 11: out of you. He's he's becoming an outlier and showing
21:49
Speaker 11: what showing what a player like that can do.
21:50
Speaker 2: And finally, our weekly visit with Pride to the Jaguars
21:53
Speaker 2: running back Fred Taylor Week twelve. The Jaguars, coming off
21:57
Speaker 2: a massive win over the Chargers, heading west again to
22:01
Speaker 2: face the Arizona Cardinals. You know, I think we learned
22:05
Speaker 2: a little bit about this team last week, how they
22:07
Speaker 2: got off the deck after the collapse in Houston.
22:10
Speaker 1: What do you want to know about the team now?
22:11
Speaker 2: Coming off a blowout, blowout win against the LA.
22:15
Speaker 8: Chargers, JP Man, I think everybody wants to know the
22:19
Speaker 8: same thing. What is this team really made of? You know,
22:23
Speaker 8: last week we spoke a lot about bouncing back, you know,
22:26
Speaker 8: the mental toughness that will require to bounce back and
22:30
Speaker 8: just get a win. But in the fashion that they
22:32
Speaker 8: got to win, these guys can be on an extreme high.
22:36
Speaker 8: But again after the game, Coach Cohen, he talked about
22:39
Speaker 8: this is who we are. It's about identity. This game
22:42
Speaker 8: will show you who they are. This is a bigger
22:45
Speaker 8: test this week versus a team who is not as
22:49
Speaker 8: good as the team they played in the Chargers team
22:51
Speaker 8: a week ago. This Arizona team plays hard, but they're
22:55
Speaker 8: not as good as the Chargers. So will the Jaguars
22:59
Speaker 8: be deflated coming in or will they be able to
23:01
Speaker 8: get up versus opponent who isn't as good. So I
23:04
Speaker 8: believe from a mental toughness standpoint point, this will show
23:09
Speaker 8: more about this Jaguars team than a week ago.
23:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack's basically just decided to pounded at him last
23:16
Speaker 2: week with the forty seven carries in the game, nearly
23:19
Speaker 2: two hundred yards, and I mean Liam Cohen said, that's
23:22
Speaker 2: what the identity of this team is. Is when the
23:24
Speaker 2: offensive line is physical and they can run the ball.
23:27
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that.
23:29
Speaker 8: Wholeheartedly when you go and look at the wins versus
23:31
Speaker 8: losses and the losses they haven't They're not rushing over
23:34
Speaker 8: one hundred yards, they're not protecting Trevor Lawrence. They're giving
23:37
Speaker 8: up multiple sacks and each of these, each of their losses.
23:42
Speaker 8: But in all of the wins that you know, it's
23:44
Speaker 8: about ball control. It's about no turnovers. From the offensive side,
23:48
Speaker 8: it's about no sacks. And again, the running backs are
23:51
Speaker 8: getting double digit carries, double digit touches, whether you're even
23:55
Speaker 8: throw in the pass game. So their identity on offense
24:00
Speaker 8: is protect Trevor Lawrence, allow him to stay calm under pressure,
24:04
Speaker 8: run the football to keep their pressure off of him.
24:06
Speaker 8: On the flip side, they want to make sure they
24:08
Speaker 8: get after the quarterback, create havoc and get turnovers.
24:12
Speaker 2: Fred Taylor with us proud of the Jaguars running back. Yeah,
24:14
Speaker 2: and the Jaguars defense. I played very well, of course
24:17
Speaker 2: last week and got after justin Herbert. You know, this
24:21
Speaker 2: is a Cardinals team, as you talked about, they are
24:23
Speaker 2: just beat up. They've got Oh my gosh, Fred, it
24:27
Speaker 2: is I mean I thought the Jags were beat up. No, no, no,
24:29
Speaker 2: They've got a bunch of guys on ir, including the
24:31
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. So but Jacoby Brissett's been at it for
24:34
Speaker 2: a while and he threw forty seven completions last week
24:37
Speaker 2: in a losing effort. He's a veteran guy. If he
24:42
Speaker 2: was as good, he'd probably be starting. But what's your
24:45
Speaker 2: plan of attack against Brissette, especially when he has the
24:48
Speaker 2: tight end and Trey McBride to throw too.
24:50
Speaker 8: You know, just to double down on what you said
24:54
Speaker 8: about their injuries, No, Kyler Murray, no Marvin Harrison, they're
24:58
Speaker 8: running back. Emery did McCart is also a guy who
25:02
Speaker 8: they depend heavily on. But Trey McBride, you know, versatile,
25:06
Speaker 8: tight end, he can go after, he can catch, he
25:09
Speaker 8: run great routes, he's fast. If you take him away,
25:13
Speaker 8: then this is how you get after Jacobi Prissett. But Prissette,
25:17
Speaker 8: you know Wilson McBride, those are his two big targets.
25:20
Speaker 8: A week ago, Wilson had eighteen targets, fifteen catches for
25:25
Speaker 8: one hundred and eighty five yards. McBride eleven targets, ten receptions,
25:28
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifteen yards, So these are the two
25:31
Speaker 8: guys they're gonna throw too. For the Jaguars, they have
25:34
Speaker 8: to be able to show that they can rush for
25:37
Speaker 8: down linemen. That way you can play tight coverage on
25:40
Speaker 8: the back end and not have any gaps in your defense. Otherwise,
25:44
Speaker 8: the Jags have shown that they're able to get after
25:46
Speaker 8: you and create pressure via their blitz package. But if
25:50
Speaker 8: they're gonna do that, Perssett who's savvy enough, a veteran,
25:55
Speaker 8: he knows the quick game is going to be key
25:57
Speaker 8: for them if the Jaguars are going to get after
25:59
Speaker 8: them with bitch pressure.
26:01
Speaker 12: So my key for.
26:02
Speaker 8: Jacksonville defensively is to make the four down front come alive.
26:07
Speaker 8: If they can get pressure with the front four, they'll
26:10
Speaker 8: be successful.
26:11
Speaker 1: And Fred, they did it last week.
26:12
Speaker 2: They only blitzed I think nine percent of the time
26:14
Speaker 2: in the game and got home a lot on Justin Herbert,
26:17
Speaker 2: which was really good to see their lowest percentage of
26:20
Speaker 2: blitz all season long. Fred Taylor with us, let's finish
26:23
Speaker 2: with Kaleis Campbell. You know what else can we say
26:29
Speaker 2: about one of the best players of all time?
26:32
Speaker 1: He's fantastic.
26:34
Speaker 8: Oh, JP, we can probably start with maybe we shouldn't
26:37
Speaker 8: have never gotten rid of.
26:40
Speaker 12: Let's start there. Kalays is just u.
26:43
Speaker 8: He's a ball of joy man and big ball of
26:47
Speaker 8: joy actually, one of the hugest humans on the face
26:51
Speaker 8: of the earth, a tremendous person. Always nominated for Walter
26:55
Speaker 8: Payton Man of the Year. You know, he's been great
26:58
Speaker 8: off the field as well as he's been on the field.
27:01
Speaker 8: And when you look at him, you say, he's not
27:03
Speaker 8: slowing down before it got to be that big to
27:06
Speaker 8: still have great pad level and still bend at his knees,
27:10
Speaker 8: still getting it done, you know, just a you know,
27:14
Speaker 8: a testament to his hard work, you know. And we
27:21
Speaker 8: got to keep him out of the backfield because he's
27:23
Speaker 8: a disruptor. So and he's going to be up for
27:26
Speaker 8: this challenge. I don't know how many times has he
27:29
Speaker 8: played the Jag since they let him go.
27:31
Speaker 2: Well, I remember last year he was in handcuffs two
27:34
Speaker 2: hours before the game with Tyreek Hill and well, you know,
27:37
Speaker 2: the the Dolphins game, and then comes out and has
27:40
Speaker 2: a sack on the first play of the game.
27:42
Speaker 1: Fred.
27:42
Speaker 12: See, So this is the type of teammate he is too.
27:45
Speaker 8: Not that he caused trouble, but that the South Beach
27:49
Speaker 8: police actually put two guys in handcuffs.
27:51
Speaker 12: That maybe they didn't really need to that day.
27:54
Speaker 8: But that's the whole different story that has nothing to
27:58
Speaker 8: do with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But Calais again, he's that
28:02
Speaker 8: type of teammate that he's gonna be right there, which
28:05
Speaker 8: is regardless of the fact, and if you don't have
28:08
Speaker 8: him in handcuffs, more than likely.
28:11
Speaker 12: He's going to be getting after your quarterback.
28:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got five sacks of the season, not slowing
28:15
Speaker 2: down at all, probably his last year.
28:17
Speaker 1: Fred, let's do it man.
28:18
Speaker 2: The Jags with the playoff race, seven seed, they've got
28:22
Speaker 2: tie breakers against the Chargers and Chiefs.
28:24
Speaker 1: They just got to handle business the next few weeks.
28:26
Speaker 8: Yeah, you gotta handle business the next few weeks because
28:29
Speaker 8: when you look at a JP you got you know,
28:32
Speaker 8: fourteen is it? Three teams with winning records and the
28:37
Speaker 8: well two teams with running records actually I apologize, and
28:41
Speaker 8: the Coats and the Broncos, and then the other teams
28:44
Speaker 8: you got Titans twice, you got Arizona.
28:47
Speaker 12: When you throw them in there, it's one of.
28:50
Speaker 8: The Jets and the Jets that are pretty pretty bad.
28:53
Speaker 8: But again from a mental standpoint, you have to make
28:56
Speaker 8: sure you're able to get up and be ready as
29:00
Speaker 8: ready for these teams with the losing record as you
29:03
Speaker 8: are from teams with winning records.
29:05
Speaker 12: So it starts today with the Cardinals.
29:07
Speaker 1: Thanks Fred, we'll talk to you later.
29:09
Speaker 6: Man all r JP.
29:10
Speaker 1: It's Week twelve.
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Speaker 2: The Jaguars meet the Cardinals at State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Arizona.
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Speaker 1: It's a four h five Eastern kickoff time. Enjoy the game.