Latest / High n' Dry Podcast / Episode 39. Shanks and Bystander Theory & Lady Dimitrescu vs. Austin Powers vs. Beetlejuice (Feat. Mike Salt, Author)
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- 0:15SPEAKER_03: For a live recording of High and Dry Podcast.
- 0:17SPEAKER_03: For all of those of you watching on stream, thank you so much.
- 0:21SPEAKER_03: Our guest today is Mike Salt.
- 0:22SPEAKER_03: Uh, we haven't gotten to the main podcast.
- 0:24SPEAKER_03: Oh, the main podcast is recording now.
- 0:25SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 0:26SPEAKER_03: Never mind.
- 0:26SPEAKER_03: I'll shut up.
- 0:28SPEAKER_00: Everything's going.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: All right, we figured this out.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: God damn.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Everyone good?
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: Everyone feeling good?
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: We're good?
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: Swell.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Well, welcome to High and Dry Podcast, the only podcast where we do all of our own stunts.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: Joining me as always, we got James Cross on James.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: What's going on, man?
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: How are you doing?
- 0:46SPEAKER_03: I'm doing really well.
- 0:47SPEAKER_03: Thank you for asking.
- 0:48SPEAKER_03: Uh, this is my natural domain, is Twitch, I guess.
- 0:52SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 0:53SPEAKER_03: It's nonsense.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: I have a Twitch stream.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: Joining us again for this episode right here where we are at the finals of this tournament we got going.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: We got shot glasses going out to everyone who participated in the voting there.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: We got Mike Salt with us, author.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: Mike, what's going on?
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: How you been?
- 1:10SPEAKER_01: Hey, what's up, guys?
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know, just surviving.
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: And doing a podcast in between the surviving.
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: So what are you working on now?
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: How you been?
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: Tell us about yourself.
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: What happened?
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: Um, we heard you were dead.
- 1:23SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, it was in a pretty insane couple weeks.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: Well, months since last time we talked, you know.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: Uh finished my next novel.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: Have it with the editor right now, sweating bullets, because I don't like editoring.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: So see how that goes.
- 1:37SPEAKER_01: Um freaking my baby is now old enough to crawl around and break things, so that's exciting.
- 1:43SPEAKER_03: Oh, geez.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: So he's really into this whole part of waking up three times a night thing for no reason.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: So it's been really exciting.
- 1:51SPEAKER_01: It's been exciting.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: No, that's pretty cool.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: That's pretty cool.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: Well, how long did it take you to pop one of those out?
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Uh, the book, not the baby.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: The baby?
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: Baby took about 10 months to cook.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: So nine full months.
- 2:03SPEAKER_01: But uh the book, surprisingly shorter.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: So I worked on this one for like three months.
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: So that's a good turnaround time.
- 2:10SPEAKER_03: This is encouragement for everyone out there.
- 2:12SPEAKER_03: Books are easier than babies.
- 2:14SPEAKER_03: If you manage to have a baby, you can write a book.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: If you have the patience to write a book, you might not have the patience to raise a baby.
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: They are you you you just that's your entire life.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: You don't get to take time off.
- 2:29SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna be like three months and give it to an editor.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: You're just done.
- 2:32SPEAKER_01: It's your life.
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: Editor would be nice.
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: I'm not, I'm not, uh I'm not made of money.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: I'm not like that.
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: I won't be, I'll never be, I don't never, I gotta go the the traditional publishing route, or it just ain't gonna happen.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to do about that.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: You got this, man.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll figure it out.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: We'll get there.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, so again, thanks for coming back on, man.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: We're excited to have you.
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: We got some good questions, we got a really fun fight.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: But so for those of people who are just joining us, just listening to the podcast, this is how this works.
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: So, High and Dry starts its episodes off with a philosophical question, a debate, if you will, and then it devolves into a fist fight, as those things often do.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: But what really sets us apart and what makes us special is that before we get into any of that, we gotta get a little drunk and we gotta get a little high.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: So, James, who are you smoking this week?
- 3:17SPEAKER_03: Uh, I'm smoking a wonderful strain.
- 3:19SPEAKER_03: The last time it made an appearance was on our very first Twitch stream uh on 420 of this year.
- 3:25SPEAKER_03: That was a good one.
- 3:26SPEAKER_03: It was a good one.
- 3:27SPEAKER_03: Uh, this one's called Purple Fire OG.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: Delicious.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: Well, that sounds lovely.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: Now, uh, Mike, you're joining us as a drunken philosopher, yeah?
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: Yes, I am.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: What do you be drinking today?
- 3:38SPEAKER_01: It is lemonade with vodka.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: Classic.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah, classic.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll be there with you.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: I got my Pink Whitney lemonade vodka.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: So we'll be in the same boat.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: So here's today.
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: So let's pour them up.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: Uh so our first uh toast of the day, and this one goes out to Cher, Carl Urban, Timeless Sandworms Everywhere, and to our guests, Mike Sol.
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
- 3:58SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
- 3:59SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: I was just thinking, Mike, this is your second time on the uh on the podcast.
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: That means we gotta get you a shot glass.
- 4:09SPEAKER_03: We gotta collect your address on air.
- 4:11SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, right.
- 4:12SPEAKER_03: So we can send that to you.
- 4:15SPEAKER_03: What's your social security number, also?
- 4:17SPEAKER_03: Just in case.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: You know how it could get rid of it.
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: I already bought the house, but my credit's nothing anymore, so it doesn't matter.
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: It's done.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: You're planted.
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: You don't need credit anymore.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: I'm begging you to steal my identity.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: Please fucking take my identity.
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: All right, so that brings us into our second toast.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: And I've been so bad at the second toast lately.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: I keep forgetting that we have to do it to a place.
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, so our last episode was actually with Lynn Lustig, had a great time with her, and she brought us in viewers from fucking nowhere.
- 4:52SPEAKER_02: No, um, she brought Damn you led, but no, just kidding.
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: She brought us our first viewers from Huntsville, Alabama.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: Ooh, Huntsville, that's that's where my grandma's from.
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 5:04SPEAKER_02: Oh, maybe that's just your grandma.
- 5:06SPEAKER_02: She doesn't live there anymore.
- 5:07SPEAKER_02: She was when she was a child.
- 5:08SPEAKER_02: So unless she's a time traveler from the 1930s.
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: She's now hunting, she's haunting a uh manor in Huntsville.
- 5:16SPEAKER_02: She's alive!
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: I didn't say she was dead, she just moved backing it.
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: Boo.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: Well, here's the Huntsville, Alabama.
- 5:24SPEAKER_01: Cheers!
- 5:31SPEAKER_03: I just charged this atomizer and I'm smoking way more than usual.
- 5:36SPEAKER_03: I gotta take softer pools.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, look.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: This is a Tuesday.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: What other time are you gonna be doing something like this?
- 5:47SPEAKER_03: Any day of the week that you tell me we have to record is when is when is when I have to be ready to do something like this.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Well, so third toast, um, Mike, we didn't prepare you for this at all, but third toast is guests toast.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: What does it do?
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: Last time I was here, I dedicated it to Bigfoot, and then my my computer did that really cool thing where it cut out and then we had to recut it, and I had to say it all again.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: So this time.
- 6:16SPEAKER_01: This toast is for my editor, and I hope that he can have the strength to make me sound halfway smart.
- 6:22SPEAKER_01: So hell yeah.
- 6:23SPEAKER_03: What?
- 6:23SPEAKER_03: We lost you, Mike.
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm just kidding.
- 6:25unknown: I'm just kidding.
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: I'm just kidding.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: Ah, you asshole.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: Here's the Mike's editor.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
- 6:36SPEAKER_03: Uh I punished myself with a really big hit again.
- 6:41SPEAKER_03: So that's all right.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Let's see where the best conversations come from.
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: Whew.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: So we're feeling good.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: We've gotten a little drunk, we've gotten a little more.
- 6:50SPEAKER_01: Absolutely not part of the subject, but we have a camera this time.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: I got some new tattoos since last time we talked.
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: Nice.
- 6:57SPEAKER_00: Hey, what do we got?
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: So I saw a jackal.
- 7:04unknown: Nice.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: Nice.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: I also hear that you're uh recording from an airfield.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: What was that hit?
- 7:11SPEAKER_01: I don't know what you said.
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: There's jets flying.
- 7:13SPEAKER_01: Do you hear the jets?
- 7:15SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes, we do.
- 7:17SPEAKER_03: Yo, I thought that was us because we always have jets flying over.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: So uh we're actually filming this.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: So people who are listening just to the uh the podcast that's being released this Sunday, um, we are actually filming on a live runway.
- 7:33SPEAKER_03: And that's what you're hearing.
- 7:38SPEAKER_03: Mike, Mike called it a garage last stream, but it's actually a hangout.
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: They hold stuff.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: It's the same basic concept.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: All right, so we're feeling good.
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: The jets have passed.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's time to get it's time to get down to business.
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: So the question we have for today, um, it's a um I I've heard the the question pop up a few times, and you know, some sometimes I'm feeling one way, sometimes I'm feeling the other way.
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: We'll see how you guys feel about it.
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: So the question I have for you guys is um in the presence of a guilty act, uh whether it be, you know, whatever it is, as far as the bystanders are concerned, are they as guilty, guilty at all?
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: Like for when you have an individual who sees something occur that they could have prevented, but instead chooses just to stand back.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: Um you see a lot of like the bystander fun little experiments they do on YouTube and stuff, and um, there was a lot of you know historical precedence on that one, but um bystanders, bystanders, sorry.
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: Are they guilty?
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: Are they as guilty as the perpetrator?
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: More, less.
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: Guests first, Mike.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: You've just witnessed a horrific crime and you did nothing.
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: Well, you fucking piece of shit.
- 8:58SPEAKER_02: You're starting to get out a little biased.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: I would uh Yeah, I mean I would I would go with the the probably guilty.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've always kind of lived my own life by that motto.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: You can step in and do something.
- 9:13SPEAKER_01: And when it comes down to it, if you can, then you should.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: And if it's gonna put yourself or somebody else in danger to step in, then you probably shouldn't.
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: That's kind of the philosophy that I as I understand it.
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: If a house is on fire and you you put yourself or somebody else in danger to go inside there, that's probably not it.
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: But if somebody's getting their ass kicked and there probably shouldn't be, and you should step in, you can step in.
- 9:34SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: That's not as last time we taught your question led to Satan rape, and I don't see that happening this time.
- 9:41SPEAKER_03: So I mean maybe.
- 9:43SPEAKER_03: What if the devil's raping someone and you see it and you don't do anything?
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: And you rape Satan.
- 9:49SPEAKER_01: We've talked about that last time.
- 9:52SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, just rape Satan back.
- 9:53SPEAKER_03: Just rape him back.
- 9:55SPEAKER_03: Um it's the only way you can teach a Satan.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: Not gonna learn otherwise, obviously.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: Well, did does anyone I mean, it was a morbid little bit of history.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: What was that one uh she had a famous name, but it was a situation where the woman um she lived in one of like those tenement areas in New York, if I'm not mistaken.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and she was raped in an alleyway.
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: And just neighbor after neighbor after neighbor witnessed it, even after it was done, saw that she was struggling, um, and essentially, I mean, depending on, I guess, your perspective here, let her die.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know, what do you think?
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: That was a matter of like they all thought it was somebody else would step in and it would be somebody else's responsibility and just didn't want to take accountability.
- 10:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: Um, don't you?
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm glad we covered that.
- 10:50SPEAKER_03: So I believe the one you're talking about, is it is it the Kitty Genevieve's case?
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's the one.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I mean it was uh it was terrible.
- 11:01SPEAKER_03: So I think I think and you know what's funny is my ex's mom was roommates with her.
- 11:08SPEAKER_03: Uh with during the case?
- 11:11SPEAKER_03: Uh I think it was before the case.
- 11:13SPEAKER_03: Okay, I don't think it was at the same time, but it was really weird that I have a connection to this.
- 11:17SPEAKER_03: I couldn't remember her name.
- 11:19SPEAKER_03: I haven't been with that woman for for like 14 years.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: Well, so uh so Mike, so in that instance, then to kind of bring it to a more concrete situation.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: So in the Kitty Genevieve's case, you know, she was attacked in front of all these people.
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: The guy, the perpetrator, he just cruised on out of there and just and just everyone just thought the next person was gonna handle it.
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: And and it do you think those people are as guilty as the man who committed the crime itself?
- 11:48SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would say legitimately even after the fact, the person ended up dying because you didn't interject.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: So I feel like as a moral person, I like to believe that I'm moral my compass is at least set semi-accurately.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: I think I would hope that I would step in, or I hope that my friends, my family would step in.
- 12:08SPEAKER_01: I don't want to really hang out with any low scumbags, but I don't know.
- 12:13SPEAKER_01: I honestly feel like that that that's the moral thing to do is to seek help for somebody else that needs it.
- 12:20SPEAKER_01: So I feel like that's yeah, that's the right thing to do, right?
- 12:25SPEAKER_03: It's the right answer.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: I'm losing a lot of readers.
- 12:29SPEAKER_03: So yeah, no joke.
- 12:39SPEAKER_03: Which is the tough question, because I've failed at my beliefs before.
- 12:44SPEAKER_03: I've failed at my beliefs plenty of times where I know something is good and right and the just thing to do.
- 12:51SPEAKER_03: Exactly, yeah.
- 12:52SPEAKER_03: And for one reason or another, I fuck it up.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: Um it's one of those things you don't know until the situation.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: You you hope that you you understand yourself well enough, but you could freeze, you could you could have something else you need to do and hope somebody else takes care of it.
- 13:05SPEAKER_01: So, like, yeah, you think you know what you should do and what you want to wish you would do, but you don't know until you're there.
- 13:11SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
- 13:12SPEAKER_03: Do you do you do you have faith in yourself to do you believe that you would be the one?
- 13:17SPEAKER_00: Well, I was actually I'm so one when you come back around, you're gonna find out I'm gonna ask, like, do you think you're the ones who are gonna pull it up?
- 13:22SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I'll answer Mike the questions Mike answered.
- 13:25SPEAKER_03: And I'll say um that I don't think that the people who okay, so I think guilt is a binary.
- 13:32SPEAKER_03: I think guilt is either true or false, right?
- 13:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 13:36SPEAKER_03: Uh it's not a scale.
- 13:38SPEAKER_03: It's it's either your actions were complicit or not complicit.
- 13:43SPEAKER_03: And uh and the problem, the reason we have it on a scale is because we use punishment as a as a response to this blame or or complicity.
- 13:56SPEAKER_03: And so we have to then put it on a scale for punishment reasons, which is a bad way to fucking scale stuff, you know, because those people, they shouldn't be punished, they should be explained to, right?
- 14:13SPEAKER_03: There should be some kind of social response, you know, where our community says, this can't happen again.
- 14:19SPEAKER_03: Ask those people who walked by why they did that.
- 14:22SPEAKER_03: Uh, find out what it would take for them to under, you know, to understand that it's their duty.
- 14:27SPEAKER_03: James, change, change, change.
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: Society does not correct itself appropriately.
- 14:34SPEAKER_03: You're right, you're right.
- 14:36SPEAKER_03: Uh, those people are not guilty.
- 14:37SPEAKER_03: Don't ever involve yourself in anyone else's shit.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: They're all guilty.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: And if we get them into the prison complex, we can start making some money.
- 14:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, make them turn them into slaves, and then things will be cool.
- 14:50SPEAKER_03: And then society will nailed it.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: Done.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: The entire block was just emptied into a prison.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: You know what's weird is I think a few people out there would say no.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: No, he nailed it, yeah.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: He got it in one.
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, and I I think just you, yeah, you hit it perfectly that would there has to be some sort of societal change.
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we don't need to fill a prison, but we definitely do need to, you know, confront ourselves as a collective and figure out, all right, what the fuck just went wrong?
- 15:28SPEAKER_00: Um, that woman didn't need to die.
- 15:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what we what we should be doing is like promoting community, like community cohesion.
- 15:37SPEAKER_03: We should be promoting like uh people building bonds with their community.
- 15:42SPEAKER_03: And but the problem is a lot of us don't have the time or resources to do that kind of thing, to like throw a block party or have like or anything like that.
- 15:50SPEAKER_03: We need to have our society revolve more around a this kind of this not forced, but like understood as a positive thing, yeah, sense of cohesion in our community.
- 16:04SPEAKER_01: Well, I think like what exactly what you're saying, when right now we're very centrally focused on individuals as a community.
- 16:13SPEAKER_01: I don't think we've been as far for a real long time.
- 16:16SPEAKER_01: So especially right now, this conundrum, this hypothetical is very much we're pretty far away from being community linked, you know, like community focused.
- 16:27SPEAKER_01: And I feel like we should hopefully get there as a society, and hopefully it doesn't take another generation to get back to.
- 16:32SPEAKER_01: But right now we're pretty fractured, and it just takes talking about it, and hopefully, hopefully people talk about it, and then this podcast, even for example, gets people talking.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: They'll talk to a loved one, they'll talk to a friend, and hopefully it starts a conversation, but like they're we're pretty far away.
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: We need a lot of work to be done to get to that point.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: Kind of sucks.
- 16:52unknown: Yeah.
- 16:53SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, I think it was it was a previous episode where we were talking about the generational divide, and our guest goes, the other generations need to die.
- 17:05SPEAKER_02: Was that Oscar?
- 17:07SPEAKER_02: That was Oscar.
- 17:08SPEAKER_02: He didn't say it.
- 17:09SPEAKER_02: I mean he said it as a joke.
- 17:11SPEAKER_02: He's straight up No, he's advocating genocide.
- 17:14unknown: They need to die.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: So then to finalize it, um, the question I now have for you, gentlemen, is in that particular situation, as we discussed, uh I've already forgotten her name.
- 17:27SPEAKER_03: That makes me feel uh Kitty Genoese, I think.
- 17:30SPEAKER_03: Genevieve?
- 17:31SPEAKER_03: Genevieves.
- 17:33SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
- 17:33SPEAKER_03: I'm going back to look again because I don't want to it's such it's Kitty Genevieves, yeah.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so in that Kitty Genevieve situation, you so you're uh you're a member of this apartment complex who historically didn't do shit.
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: What do you think, or what I mean, even what do you hope you would have done differently?
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: So I mean the entire thing played out where you they witnessed the attack, they witnessed him walk away, and then to make everything just even more terrible, they didn't call for help.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: So uh guests first, uh on your final thoughts here.
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: What would you have done differently?
- 18:11SPEAKER_00: Good god, this is a dark episode.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: Um and it's not even about like the usual child murder.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: This is just any person murder.
- 18:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 18:22SPEAKER_01: I mean here's the thing.
- 18:25SPEAKER_01: I think that I would, I hope that everybody would.
- 18:28SPEAKER_01: I hope everybody is in the same mindset where they just think that they would step in.
- 18:33SPEAKER_01: I know that back in high school I was in a situation where I had to make a real split decision.
- 18:39SPEAKER_01: I I feel I made the right decision.
- 18:40SPEAKER_01: I shank him.
- 18:43SPEAKER_01: And then, I don't know, I'm gonna do it.
- 18:46SPEAKER_03: And also her.
- 18:50SPEAKER_01: And uh oh, oh, I'll give you a high five.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: And then he takes Kitty out for drinks.
- 18:58SPEAKER_01: Jesus emotionally like she's had a rough day.
- 19:01SPEAKER_01: She needs to unwine.
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: What year was this?
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: Was it prohibition?
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: With a gentle man.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: No, it's in the 1960s.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's definitely what she needs is the company of another man.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: I a morally sound man.
- 19:17SPEAKER_01: Solid.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: It's solid.
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: Well, I I like that, yeah, yeah.
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: Well, I like that your apartment's just loaded with shanks ready for you to grab at.
- 19:25SPEAKER_01: I got a shank at any given moment.
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: It's just at my disposal.
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: All right, solid.
- 19:31SPEAKER_00: Nice.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: Well, so uh James, what about you?
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: So, in the same situation, you happen to live at this apartment.
- 19:37SPEAKER_03: Um I have no connection with my neighbors, like right now.
- 19:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I have no connection with my neighbors.
- 19:42SPEAKER_03: As much as I talk about we really need the sense of community and stuff, um, I I'm not connected with my neighbors at all.
- 19:49SPEAKER_03: I don't know what's going on with them.
- 19:50SPEAKER_03: I don't know much about their lives.
- 19:53SPEAKER_03: Um, I hear people screaming outside all the time.
- 19:56SPEAKER_03: And I and I don't brutally honest, I don't check it out at all.
- 20:01SPEAKER_03: It mostly sounds like children, but when you hear children screaming, it's usually because they're playing.
- 20:05SPEAKER_03: And I know people are out there uh on the street.
- 20:09SPEAKER_03: Like there's there are people who sit out on the street or are out on the street watching the kids.
- 20:14SPEAKER_03: Uh, so I feel like it's taken care of.
- 20:17SPEAKER_03: I can understand that people in this building felt like someone else would handle it.
- 20:23SPEAKER_03: I also worry about um the idea of calling the police, uh, because a lot of times police escalate things.
- 20:32SPEAKER_03: And oh yeah, I'll never call them.
- 20:34SPEAKER_03: Fuck that.
- 20:35SPEAKER_03: And it really sucks um that the idea that the my protectors will escalate things and possibly make it worse.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: And it's like that little jackass from Paw Patrol.
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: Paw Patrol!
- 20:47SPEAKER_03: What a class trader.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 20:51SPEAKER_03: Um but uh but yeah, I don't know.
- 20:53SPEAKER_03: I probably would never even have gone and investigated.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, that's I mean, it's it's honest and it's I mean, it's what happened.
- 21:04SPEAKER_03: If I if I saw someone that's getting raised, yeah.
- 21:08SPEAKER_03: If I saw it, I would be like, what the fuck is going on?
- 21:11SPEAKER_03: Uh I'd throw stuff if I was on like the upper levels.
- 21:15unknown: Yeah.
- 21:17SPEAKER_00: Everyone in that apartment complex had shanks on tap.
- 21:20SPEAKER_03: Fucking shank heavy in this apartment.
- 21:24SPEAKER_03: The building was made out of shank, so you can just grab one off the side.
- 21:27SPEAKER_03: We're actually in a prison complex from the last time this happened.
- 21:31SPEAKER_03: Everyone's in prison now.
- 21:33unknown: Yeah.
- 21:33SPEAKER_00: Um, and for well for me, so um right before my current living situation, I did live in an apartment complex, and I didn't know any of my neighbors, but there was more than more than ten times where I actually investigated a situation.
- 21:52SPEAKER_00: I I mean one time it was because like the fucking elevator was and it was like crazy hours of the night too.
- 21:58SPEAKER_00: Um but I've always had sort of a and sometimes it doesn't work out good for me, but I do have a well, if uh I don't take care of it, no one else will mentality.
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: Sometimes good.
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's good.
- 22:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, in in certain cases it would be good, but a lot of the times I'm like, well, if I don't handle that and Fucking no one else will.
- 22:16SPEAKER_03: I I did hit a stranger one time.
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: With a car?
- 22:19SPEAKER_03: No, with my with my hand.
- 22:23SPEAKER_03: Like open palm slap.
- 22:26SPEAKER_03: It was it was like an op it was like an open palm slap to the like a push to the face, like but a hit with my palm.
- 22:34SPEAKER_03: Um but like like it this it was when I lived in New York and uh there was an old woman who was You hit an old lady.
- 22:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I actually used an old lady to hit another person.
- 22:48SPEAKER_03: Uh I opened palmed, grabbed her.
- 22:52SPEAKER_01: I don't know if the story is going, but I'm impressed.
- 22:55SPEAKER_01: Good job.
- 22:55SPEAKER_03: So like uh I don't know if you've ever been on a subway.
- 22:58SPEAKER_03: If anyone here has ever been on a subway when it's incredibly crowded, but people will literally shove like them their bodies into the crowd to squeeze themselves into a subway car.
- 23:08SPEAKER_03: And in the middle of this crowd of people, very close to me, was an old woman who was being uh effectively crushed by the crowd because uh because someone was continuing to push on the crowd of people surrounding us, the mass of people.
- 23:23SPEAKER_03: And so she was getting shoved into a tighter and tighter space, and she was like yelling, um, and like no one was doing anything.
- 23:30SPEAKER_03: And I ended up being the person who did something.
- 23:32SPEAKER_03: That just came this just came back to me.
- 23:34SPEAKER_03: I I was that at least at one point, I was that person.
- 23:38SPEAKER_03: And and this dude was just shoving his way on, and I asked him twice.
- 23:41SPEAKER_03: I was like, hey, you gotta stop shoving, you gotta find another door or wait for the next train.
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: You're about to commit murder, sir.
- 23:47SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was like this woman screaming, and he it was like he just kept shoving, and I like I I slammed my hand into his fucking head and he went and he went backward out of the doors, and I was really happy about it.
- 23:57SPEAKER_01: I find that if you were to show him your shank, it'd be way more effective.
- 24:03SPEAKER_02: I might I might have a whole different set of problems.
- 24:07SPEAKER_00: Well, and that's when I pulled out my sharpened toothbrush.
- 24:10SPEAKER_01: Prison shank, prison wallet.
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: That I carried with me.
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:15SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, you know, this is just in my normal civilian life.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: I pulled out my sharpened toothbrush.
- 24:21SPEAKER_01: I don't wear it at work, but regular mic, totally prison wallets loaded with shanks.
- 24:27SPEAKER_01: You never know.
- 24:31SPEAKER_02: I'm always hiding shanks just in case I go away for a dime.
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: Oh, I could hear you rooting around in there.
- 24:41SPEAKER_00: All right, well, with that being said, it's time to move on to the next portion of our podcast.
- 24:47SPEAKER_00: But before we jump into our fight, before we jump into the final fight of our tournament, it's time to get a little more drunk, and it's time to get a little more high.
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: And I do need to stress this is the final fight of high and dry's very first tournament ever.
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: We're giving away fucking glassware for this fucking thing.
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: So this one is to.
- 25:07SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have a big fight here with three fucking fighters, but they always get to cheer.
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: This one is to high and dry, how far it's come, to our guests like Mike and everyone who's come along the way.
- 25:18SPEAKER_00: We really appreciate it.
- 25:19SPEAKER_00: So cheers.
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
- 25:21SPEAKER_01: You fucking did it, boys! America!
- 25:24SPEAKER_03: USA.
- 25:28SPEAKER_03: Yo, I gotta share this aphorism real quick.
- 25:31SPEAKER_03: This story I got.
- 25:32SPEAKER_03: So, hold on, I didn't get anything out of that one.
- 25:34SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: See, that's the integrity that you get from high and dry.
- 25:40SPEAKER_03: So, uh there was this one day when I was over at the park, and uh geese live at this park, and the city knows it, and they put up signs, and the signs say, Don't feed the geese human food.
- 25:55SPEAKER_03: They're like, Don't feed the geese human food, it's bad for them.
- 25:58SPEAKER_03: And uh and I also knew this personally before the hand that human food is bad for geese.
- 26:05SPEAKER_03: Um and I saw a family uh like with a bag of like Lay's potato chips, like with a throng of geese around them, like throwing the potato chips at the geese.
- 26:17SPEAKER_03: Is this your kitty story?
- 26:18SPEAKER_03: Uh no, no, no.
- 26:19SPEAKER_03: This isn't a bystander effect story.
- 26:21SPEAKER_03: I actually I was driving out of the park and I was like, hey, what's going on?
- 26:27SPEAKER_03: And they were like, feeding the geese.
- 26:28SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I was like, there's a you're you're actually feeding them right in front of a sign.
- 26:32SPEAKER_02: This is bad for them.
- 26:34SPEAKER_02: And they were like, Why, you think you can tell me what to do?
- 26:36SPEAKER_02: This is America!
- 26:37SPEAKER_03: And then they started chanting USA at me.
- 26:40SPEAKER_03: Like this per this this this grown man started chanting USA at me, and I was just so flabbergasted that I didn't know what to do.
- 26:47SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I wonder if he's vaccinated.
- 26:50SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
- 26:54SPEAKER_03: But that was pretty crazy.
- 26:55SPEAKER_03: That was like that was like two years ago.
- 26:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 26:58SPEAKER_00: Taking all bets.
- 26:59SPEAKER_00: Freedom Geese Man.
- 27:01SPEAKER_00: Is he vaccinated?
- 27:05SPEAKER_00: So um here's the Freedom Geese Man.
- 27:08SPEAKER_00: But anyway, now so moving on to the second part of our fight.
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: It's time to get into the fist fight.
- 27:14SPEAKER_00: And this is um, this is the first time we've ever had to do any of this thing, but um, with Lynn on the show last week, we just couldn't decide on a straight-up winner.
- 27:22SPEAKER_00: So hopefully, in a three-way, we could figure that shit out.
- 27:25SPEAKER_00: You know, as Lynn always says, it's best to end things in a three-way.
- 27:30SPEAKER_01: It's harder to know where to put things.
- 27:32SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
- 27:33SPEAKER_03: No, it's easier because you got so many choices.
- 27:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's there's too many choices at that point.
- 27:41SPEAKER_03: You just you just throw it out there, and wherever it lands, you nailed it.
- 27:44SPEAKER_00: You got it.
- 27:46SPEAKER_00: All right, so um, how we do it on high and dry.
- 27:49SPEAKER_00: To figure out our fights, we have a patented method to get you the answers of who would win between your favorite nerd shit.
- 27:55SPEAKER_00: Um, in order to do that, we break it down into a three-round method.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: Round one, these characters have entered into a fight club bar basement featuring Brad Pitt, um, where they just go pound for pound, punch for punch, and they beat each other to death until we have a winner.
- 28:10SPEAKER_00: Round two, these characters now have access to everything that's intrinsic to them, and they can buy a shotgun if they want to, and they have 24 hours in a city to get it done.
- 28:18SPEAKER_00: And round three is the same as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: So bringing it into round one, the Hind Dry Podcast crew have just gotten to the box seats.
- 28:28SPEAKER_00: We're down in the Gen X basement where these two characters are about to fight.
- 28:31SPEAKER_00: Brad Pitt is explaining the rules while Cher and Carl Urban have been seated next to a timeless sandworm.
- 28:39SPEAKER_03: Ride the timeless sandworm in.
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they probably route him in.
- 28:43SPEAKER_00: Um, so Mike, guests first, punch for punch, pound for pound.
- 28:49SPEAKER_00: Who is going to win between Lady Dimitresque of Resident Evil Village, Austin Powers of Austin Powers, and who the fuck was the third person?
- 29:02SPEAKER_00: Uh Beetlejuice.
- 29:03SPEAKER_00: Beetlejuice.
- 29:03SPEAKER_00: Of Beetlejuice.
- 29:04SPEAKER_00: Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
- 29:06SPEAKER_00: Easy now.
- 29:07SPEAKER_00: Be careful.
- 29:11SPEAKER_00: So guess first, Mike, what's gonna happen?
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: Legitimately It sucks because there's three of them.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: If I had to use like just if it was a I don't know.
- 29:20SPEAKER_01: Fuck you guys.
- 29:20SPEAKER_01: This is not fair.
- 29:24SPEAKER_01: It adds a new dimension out, right?
- 29:25SPEAKER_03: It adds a new dimension because there's two fighters.
- 29:28SPEAKER_01: I honestly think that and I'm gonna start off this saying last time I was here, I was very biased.
- 29:34SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 29:35SPEAKER_01: I was like Jason Voorhees, 100%.
- 29:37SPEAKER_01: I don't care what you throw at me, and then you got me drunk, and then it wasn't it wasn't him anymore.
- 29:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what a lot of guests say.
- 29:45SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go with quite honestly, think would win this, and I hate this character.
- 29:50SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna say Beetlejuice.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: So I think he would I think he I think You think Beetlejuice would win this?
- 29:59SPEAKER_01: Brad Pitt hanging out?
- 30:00SPEAKER_01: I think he has it.
- 30:01SPEAKER_00: Well, can you can you give us a why?
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, so you you're kind of acting as the advocate now of Beetlejuice.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: Try and convince us.
- 30:08SPEAKER_01: Not on purpose, that's not fair.
- 30:12SPEAKER_00: Well, what's your thinking?
- 30:13SPEAKER_00: What's your reasoning?
- 30:14SPEAKER_01: Dude, he's legitimately he's he's magic.
- 30:19SPEAKER_01: He literally can conjure and and shapeshift and he's magic, he can he can put people in trances and fucking I'm pretty sure he could curse people.
- 30:31SPEAKER_01: Like legitimately, I don't see, especially in the Tim Burton movie, or even in the car animated series back when I was a child, where the limit of his powers are.
- 30:41SPEAKER_01: He could literally do anything, it feels like.
- 30:43SPEAKER_01: And I feel like everybody else is grounded in reality or their own reality.
- 30:49SPEAKER_03: I forgot the mini-series.
- 30:50SPEAKER_03: The mini series the mini-series really opens the door on his powers.
- 30:54SPEAKER_03: They looney tunes him more than he already was.
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 30:59SPEAKER_00: Well, James, what are your thoughts?
- 31:00SPEAKER_00: Uh I forgot about the Looney Tunes.
- 31:02SPEAKER_03: I bet I bet if we had I bet if we had uh considered the cartoon on our last recording, Beetlejuice would have taken Austin Powers.
- 31:11SPEAKER_03: Um but he's here now.
- 31:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the judgments are are forever.
- 31:17SPEAKER_03: Uh so um it's true.
- 31:21SPEAKER_03: I would say Beetlejuice.
- 31:24SPEAKER_03: The wow, the cartoon really opens up his powers.
- 31:27SPEAKER_03: If we stuck to just the movie, Beetlejuice mostly uses his environment.
- 31:32SPEAKER_03: When he's in the physical realm, he uses his environment to hurt people.
- 31:36SPEAKER_03: Um but he's also he uses a lot of cunning.
- 31:40SPEAKER_03: When you have more than two people in a place, you can start using cunning.
- 31:47SPEAKER_03: Um that's his power.
- 31:49SPEAKER_03: Uh he's he's uh relentless and cunning, and everything's a joke to him, so he's not bound by like uh by like worldly matters.
- 32:00SPEAKER_03: Um Lady Dimitresk is very serious.
- 32:03SPEAKER_03: She's very serious, and she only fights one person at a time, uh, usually.
- 32:08SPEAKER_03: How many does she ever fight like multiple people at a time, Ryan?
- 32:12SPEAKER_00: No, just that one asshole.
- 32:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so she fights one person at a time, so she's at a disadvantage at with multiple people.
- 32:18SPEAKER_03: But Beetlejuice and Austin Powers both are very good at fighting multiple people.
- 32:24SPEAKER_03: Um it's been shown time and time again, but Austin Powers doesn't have his guns or anything.
- 32:29SPEAKER_03: He's he's especially good when people are shooting guns at him.
- 32:33SPEAKER_00: Um but no guns here.
- 32:35SPEAKER_00: Ooh, I got a thought.
- 32:37SPEAKER_00: Um well, so then here's what I think's gonna happen.
- 32:40SPEAKER_00: So you have Lady D.
- 32:42SPEAKER_00: She's staring down Beetlejuice, who's obviously, I think, immediately the greater threat.
- 32:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 32:50SPEAKER_00: Um, and and so what I think's well uh what I think we're gonna see in this first round here.
- 32:55SPEAKER_00: Um, so Lady D eventually becomes a giant dragon-like creature.
- 33:04SPEAKER_00: And I think we'll see that pretty quickly when she has to deal with Betelgeuse's, you know, innate magic.
- 33:11SPEAKER_00: But however, once these two characters turn into their forms, we're dealing with ridiculousness.
- 33:19SPEAKER_00: And what we've entered now is a realm where the fucking British guys trying to karate trap a dragon, poltergeist, trying to karate trap a dragon and a poltergeist, and we've just entered a comedy, and that's where Austin can pull it out.
- 33:36SPEAKER_03: But Austin doesn't have an environment.
- 33:37SPEAKER_03: Usually the environment is what Austin Powers can time travel, though.
- 33:41SPEAKER_03: So there's no scenario.
- 33:44SPEAKER_00: But he doesn't have his time travel equipment.
- 33:47SPEAKER_00: Well, well, here's just here's what I'm putting forward.
- 33:49SPEAKER_00: This is what I think's gonna happen.
- 33:51SPEAKER_00: Lady D turns into a dragon, Beetlejuice uh comes at her with everything he's got, the two of them are fighting.
- 33:58SPEAKER_00: It's hilarious to watch Austin on the side just prepping his judo chop.
- 34:04SPEAKER_00: And then at the last second, when like we've watched Lady D get ripped apart by a fucking sandworm or Beetlejuice or however the fuck it goes down, Austin judo chops him in the back of the head and then continues on with his movie.
- 34:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably.
- 34:21SPEAKER_01: Austin Powers' weakness is a hot lady.
- 34:24SPEAKER_00: So I mean, so the the question I have is would um would Austin Powers be able to femme bot Lady D?
- 34:36SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's tough.
- 34:37SPEAKER_01: Solid argument.
- 34:37SPEAKER_01: She seems And I just want to point out I'm a lot drunker earlier in this episode, so it's really up to you guys to decide at this point.
- 34:46SPEAKER_03: Gotcha.
- 34:47SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say I still like Beetlejuice because Beetlejuice is so cunning.
- 34:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 34:52SPEAKER_01: Well well.
- 34:53SPEAKER_03: I feel like they're gonna fuck and Beetlejuice will drop a sandworm.
- 34:55SPEAKER_03: No, he can't drop a sandworm.
- 34:57SPEAKER_03: I think that he'll convince them to fuck and then he'll take them out while they're doing that.
- 35:00SPEAKER_01: While doing a conga line.
- 35:03SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 35:04SPEAKER_00: And well then, so Mike, your vote.
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: Oh, Beetle, Beetle, Beetle, Beetle.
- 35:08SPEAKER_03: Beetle, beetle, beetle.
- 35:10SPEAKER_03: Um, James, your vote.
- 35:11SPEAKER_03: I agree, Beetlejuice.
- 35:12SPEAKER_03: I think now that they now that these two two, and I'm gonna say it, sex, sex objects, right?
- 35:18SPEAKER_03: They're both they're both like they're both uh they've they're characters who were created to be sex objects.
- 35:24SPEAKER_01: And jerk off in the corner.
- 35:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he'll he'll he'll let them distract each other, and then that's when he comes up from behind with those stretchy hands and takes them out.
- 35:34SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, Beetlejuice.
- 35:37SPEAKER_00: Alright, well, my I've always felt that Beetlejuice is gonna win this one.
- 35:43SPEAKER_00: And so round one is going to Beetlejuice, which brings us into round two.
- 35:48SPEAKER_00: So these fighters, we now zoom out into a city view where these characters have received a manila envelope underneath their apartment doors, their castle doorsteps, and their swingers' pads, and they now know that they have 24 hours to kill the other two.
- 36:04SPEAKER_00: Mike, guess up first.
- 36:06SPEAKER_00: What happens?
- 36:07SPEAKER_01: Did you guys ever consider the fact that there could be a three-way tie here?
- 36:13SPEAKER_00: There could be.
- 36:14SPEAKER_00: There could be.
- 36:14SPEAKER_03: We're hoping not.
- 36:15SPEAKER_03: I mean, Beetlejuice already has a vote.
- 36:17SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Beetlejuice has a vote already.
- 36:19SPEAKER_03: I mean, if if they'd e they'd each have to win a round, I doubt it.
- 36:23SPEAKER_03: We'll see what happens.
- 36:24SPEAKER_01: Okay, 24 hours prepare.
- 36:26SPEAKER_01: I don't think 24 hours really matters to fucking Beetlejuice.
- 36:30SPEAKER_01: I I really don't.
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: I think the only person that 24 hours could play a difference would be Austin Powers if he can stay focused.
- 36:39SPEAKER_01: Like he's if if he doesn't go off try to, you know, shag or fucking look for his mojo.
- 36:46SPEAKER_01: I honestly think that with if he had the right well, you know, fuck.
- 36:50SPEAKER_01: I think that all yeah, the technology's on his side.
- 36:53SPEAKER_01: I feel like if if given 24 hours, I feel like he will stand a better chance than he does in any other round.
- 36:59SPEAKER_01: So just for the sake of conversation, I would say I would say say Austin Powers has this one.
- 37:05SPEAKER_00: You know, and I I I had some similar thoughts.
- 37:07SPEAKER_00: Well, well, James, what do you think?
- 37:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 37:11SPEAKER_03: There is a lag again.
- 37:12SPEAKER_03: Uh, but that's okay.
- 37:14SPEAKER_03: We'll persevere.
- 37:15SPEAKER_03: We're persevering.
- 37:16SPEAKER_03: Um uh so I think that uh Austin Powers um in this one does have a he'll have a lot of gadgets.
- 37:26SPEAKER_03: Um Lady D gets her whole island, she doesn't have minions, but she has her castle, she has a castle.
- 37:33SPEAKER_03: Um and uh and Beetlejuice gets his access to another realm now.
- 37:41SPEAKER_03: Um so I don't know, that's pretty sweet.
- 37:45SPEAKER_03: Uh so I think that I think that Beetlejuice might have it again in this round, just because he has access to a place where he can go and hide and come back.
- 37:57SPEAKER_03: And he but the problem is he's not a long con guy, right?
- 38:02SPEAKER_03: He's he's he's always successful in the short run.
- 38:04SPEAKER_01: He's very impulsive, you know.
- 38:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
- 38:08SPEAKER_03: Uh and it looks like you caught up again, which is good.
- 38:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we did it.
- 38:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 38:14SPEAKER_03: Um, so I would say, hmm, yeah, perhaps in this one, when it's a movie length, I think Austin Powers might take it.
- 38:22SPEAKER_03: I think Austin Powers, just because he he'll have a chance to have an arc um over the course of preparation and then execution, yeah.
- 38:30SPEAKER_03: Uh, whereas in the basement he didn't get that opportunity.
- 38:33SPEAKER_03: What do you think, Ryan?
- 38:34SPEAKER_00: Um, I I'm going with a similar route so far.
- 38:37SPEAKER_00: Well, what I see occurring here, um, well, first, you know, I mean, we're going back to the 90s, and yeah, they all meet in the 90s, don't they?
- 38:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're gonna meet in the 90s.
- 38:52SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, Resident Evil was scary, so Lady D fits in.
- 38:57SPEAKER_00: Um, Austin traveled there for a whole fucking game.
- 39:00SPEAKER_03: It's true.
- 39:01SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think that Beetlejuice is too dependent on the world around him.
- 39:06SPEAKER_00: Whereas um, and I think that same goes for Lady D.
- 39:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, the whole game, she's dependent on her mansion, and she's honestly real lazy about the whole situation.
- 39:16SPEAKER_00: So I think I I think that the one character we have is Austin, who just plows into and figures this shit out.
- 39:25SPEAKER_00: Over and over and over.
- 39:26SPEAKER_00: And over.
- 39:28SPEAKER_03: Just plowing.
- 39:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I think that's what's gonna happen.
- 39:32SPEAKER_00: So, uh, Mike, back to you.
- 39:34SPEAKER_00: What happens and what's your vote?
- 39:37SPEAKER_01: I mean, he said he's the only mortal person, and I feel like he's gonna take it more serious.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: I feel like he has 24 hours prepare.
- 39:46SPEAKER_01: I feel like he has it.
- 39:47SPEAKER_01: I feel like Austin Powers for the win, baby.
- 39:54SPEAKER_03: I think it, yeah, I think in this case, Austin Powers and Lady D get to fuck on their own terms in her secluded castle.
- 40:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's a win for Austin, yeah.
- 40:04SPEAKER_03: It is a win for Austin because she can't hurt Austin now.
- 40:07SPEAKER_03: Nobody who Austin fucks can hurt Austin.
- 40:11SPEAKER_03: Um and they they fall in love with him immediately.
- 40:17SPEAKER_03: A lot of vagina comes to mind.
- 40:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 40:20SPEAKER_03: Um, so I think that then Lady D is not a threat anymore, and then he can focus on Beetlejuice.
- 40:27SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 40:27SPEAKER_00: Well, then, yeah, for me, um, I was gonna vote Austin anyway, and I really hope that no one votes for Lady D in the third round.
- 40:35SPEAKER_00: But let's find out what happens.
- 40:39SPEAKER_00: So we have just down turned round three.
- 40:41SPEAKER_00: We're still in that city view.
- 40:44SPEAKER_00: Now, this time, these people get to bring a friend.
- 40:48SPEAKER_00: So, guests first, Mike, what goes down?
- 40:51SPEAKER_00: Who and well, before we do that, who's the friends?
- 40:53SPEAKER_00: If you don't mind.
- 40:55SPEAKER_00: Well, that's what you gotta decide.
- 40:56SPEAKER_00: So, as we're talking about it, who do they bring?
- 40:59SPEAKER_00: But before we do that, I think we need one more for the final round of the High and Dry Podcast tournament.
- 41:05SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
- 41:07SPEAKER_03: Cheers to our fighters, cheers to having Mike on again.
- 41:12SPEAKER_01: Decent internet.
- 41:15SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you gotta it's working again now.
- 41:18SPEAKER_03: It's going really well.
- 41:20SPEAKER_03: I think I I no, so so here's the problem.
- 41:23SPEAKER_03: So, as a software engineer, I do I think I understand what's going on.
- 41:27SPEAKER_03: So, on your end, Zincaster is buffering a certain amount of audio.
- 41:31SPEAKER_03: So, whenever you start to lag, you just need to stop talking for a bit so it can finish buffering the audio, and then it'll and then it'll restart the buffer.
- 41:40SPEAKER_03: See the problem that's what that's what I think.
- 41:42SPEAKER_01: I'm constantly beatboxing underneath my breath.
- 41:45SPEAKER_01: So when you guys think that I'm inside, I'm quietly beatboxing.
- 41:51SPEAKER_01: So that's that's what I mean.
- 41:53SPEAKER_01: I apologize.
- 41:56SPEAKER_02: It's just the light.
- 41:58SPEAKER_02: A low frequency hum in the background that that drives your family insane.
- 42:06SPEAKER_02: That's why there's so many fucking shanks in the house.
- 42:12SPEAKER_00: Alright, well, uh, so Mike, yeah, what goes down?
- 42:17SPEAKER_00: Who do they bring?
- 42:18SPEAKER_00: What happens?
- 42:19SPEAKER_00: Take us there.
- 42:21SPEAKER_01: Um Lady D has probably a minion.
- 42:24SPEAKER_01: If you only have one, right?
- 42:28SPEAKER_00: She'd have one of her daughters, I'd imagine.
- 42:30SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 42:30SPEAKER_03: Well.
- 42:31SPEAKER_03: I'd say even with all three, she wouldn't stand a chance.
- 42:33SPEAKER_00: Well, remember in the last time Lady D fought, she brought um one of the other versions of her.
- 42:39SPEAKER_00: So you had like Pyramid Head and you had No, no, no.
- 42:43SPEAKER_03: She brought the protagonist from the game.
- 42:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she wound up bringing the protagonist, but then who then she could also bring Nemesis, you know.
- 42:51SPEAKER_01: And I feel like Austin Powers would probably bring, if we're going post Gold Member, would bring Doctor Evil.
- 43:00SPEAKER_01: Once they're brothers and they're friends.
- 43:02SPEAKER_03: Dr.
- 43:03SPEAKER_01: That's like a strong.
- 43:05SPEAKER_03: Not a bad option.
- 43:06SPEAKER_01: He has all the money in the world.
- 43:08SPEAKER_00: Or he's bringing or he's gonna bring another Austin.
- 43:12SPEAKER_03: Another Austin Because remember when he time traveled in the Heather Graham one, uh, he there were two Austins, and they they doubled teamed Heather Graham.
- 43:22SPEAKER_01: But if you get Austin, if you get Dr.
- 43:24SPEAKER_01: Evil, you get access to fucking sharks with lasers on their head.
- 43:28SPEAKER_01: Which is a positive in most cases.
- 43:30SPEAKER_00: Oh, I didn't even No, he doesn't get sharks, he gets sea bass.
- 43:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he gets seabass and they're voracious.
- 43:42SPEAKER_00: I forgot how fucking funny that moves.
- 43:44SPEAKER_02: That movie was great.
- 43:45SPEAKER_02: That was a great movie.
- 43:46SPEAKER_02: We have sea bass.
- 43:50SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 43:54SPEAKER_03: All right, so Austin is either bringing Doctor Evil or another version of himself, and then Beetlejuice.
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: We came to the conclusion last time that it was very Beetlejuice doesn't have any fucking friends.
- 44:05SPEAKER_01: What what does he pull what's her face?
- 44:06SPEAKER_01: Uh Christy Rich uh Christine Richie?
- 44:08SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't fucking know.
- 44:09SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he could pull her.
- 44:11SPEAKER_03: Winona Ryder.
- 44:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you.
- 44:12SPEAKER_03: Winona Ryder, that's right.
- 44:15SPEAKER_03: So so yeah, that was that was one of our thoughts is that he would bring a child he could manipulate, right?
- 44:20SPEAKER_03: Or the sandworm.
- 44:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah, or the sandworm.
- 44:23SPEAKER_03: Um, because Austin wouldn't kill a child, right?
- 44:25SPEAKER_03: So that that would be a good protection for him there.
- 44:28SPEAKER_03: That's what he did last time.
- 44:29SPEAKER_03: But Lady D would totally kill a child.
- 44:33SPEAKER_01: Super easily.
- 44:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
- 44:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 44:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 44:36SPEAKER_03: It'd be really fast.
- 44:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 44:38SPEAKER_01: I don't know, dude.
- 44:39SPEAKER_01: I know that you don't want a three-way tie, but Lady D probably has this one, right?
- 44:45SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think so.
- 44:47SPEAKER_00: What?
- 44:47SPEAKER_00: Well, well, James, what are your thoughts?
- 44:49SPEAKER_00: Well, James, what do you think is gonna happen here?
- 44:52SPEAKER_03: I think that this is almost a straight repeat of the second round.
- 44:57SPEAKER_03: Uh, because those three daughters uh cannot resist Austin's sexuality.
- 45:05SPEAKER_03: Uh, they can't do it.
- 45:07SPEAKER_03: Austin is just gonna bang his way through this entire vampire family, and then and then they're all gonna kill Beetlejuice together.
- 45:15SPEAKER_03: And then and then Austin's gonna be like, sorry, babe, this is just business.
- 45:21SPEAKER_02: Then he gets rid of them.
- 45:24SPEAKER_02: Um he didn't even need anyone.
- 45:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he didn't even need anyone.
- 45:29SPEAKER_03: But if he brought a second one of himself, it would make the orgy a lot a lot more.
- 45:34SPEAKER_03: A lot more Michael Powers.
- 45:38SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have two horns.
- 45:41SPEAKER_00: Um, well then I would say so.
- 45:44SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think I see Beetlejuice coming in there with the sandworm.
- 45:49SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say the sandworm.
- 45:50SPEAKER_00: I mean sandworm's the better option against Lake.
- 45:52SPEAKER_00: I would assume.
- 45:53SPEAKER_00: I mean, or or even, yeah.
- 45:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, because if if if Beetlejuice brings Winona Ryder, we're gonna watch Winona Ryder get eaten by a sandworm.
- 46:00SPEAKER_01: Which I kind of meant to, if I'm being honest.
- 46:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I I don't think that Beetlejuice because because in Betelgeuse's media, Beetlejuice is the friend.
- 46:14SPEAKER_00: And when you flip that on him and he's forced to bring his own friend, it it definitely comes out as a weaker combination.
- 46:21SPEAKER_00: Um so then I would say that it comes back down to that fight between Lady D and Austin, and then Lady D isn't gonna know what the fuck to do with Austin.
- 46:31SPEAKER_01: Fuck it.
- 46:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a sandworm is just as likely to eat beetle juice as it is to help him.
- 46:36SPEAKER_03: Uh because it did.
- 46:38SPEAKER_00: Well, well, Mike, bringing it back around to you, final thoughts.
- 46:43SPEAKER_00: What happens?
- 46:44SPEAKER_00: What's your vote?
- 46:45SPEAKER_01: I feel like the sandworm now in the equation even solidifies my vote.
- 46:51SPEAKER_01: The sandworm takes out fucking Austin Powers.
- 46:54SPEAKER_01: Easy money.
- 46:55SPEAKER_01: He hasn't prepared for a sandworm, he's prepared for a vampire and a fucking Michael Keaton looking like he's dead.
- 47:01SPEAKER_01: So fucking sandworm just beats him, and I feel like Lady D has it.
- 47:06SPEAKER_01: I I if if that's the scenario, I feel like that's how it plays out.
- 47:10SPEAKER_01: And I'm really disappointed.
- 47:12SPEAKER_03: So I have a re I have a real go ahead, continue, continue your finish.
- 47:22SPEAKER_01: And then just manipulate me in my opinions.
- 47:26SPEAKER_01: This isn't fair.
- 47:27SPEAKER_01: You need to have a drop inside, you need to also have a spin-off called Sober and Sober.
- 47:33SPEAKER_01: And you just talk nicely.
- 47:38SPEAKER_02: Why do you come on as a fan of every fucking thing?
- 47:43SPEAKER_02: Why do you why do you enjoy things?
- 47:45SPEAKER_02: What's wrong with you?
- 47:46SPEAKER_02: Should learn your lesson now.
- 47:49SPEAKER_03: Um, but I think that so I think that in this case, I think you make a good point about the sandworm taking out Austin.
- 47:56SPEAKER_03: But a conclusion that we've come to, that at least me, is that Austin brings the other Austin.
- 48:03SPEAKER_03: And then the sandworm.
- 48:04SPEAKER_03: We didn't even think about Austin's friend.
- 48:06SPEAKER_03: There's two Austins, and and they're standing together, and they see this giant sandworm, and they're and earlier in the movie they talked about how how are there gonna be two Austins?
- 48:18SPEAKER_03: Well, one of them gets eaten by the sandworm, and the timeline corrects itself, and then Austin Powers continues with the movie.
- 48:27SPEAKER_00: So you're saying that Austin Powers 4 starts with clone Austin being eaten by a sandworm.
- 48:31SPEAKER_03: Yes, and then and then there's only one Austin, and then the rest of the movie happens, and I think Austin wins.
- 48:38SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
- 48:40SPEAKER_02: And for me.
- 48:44SPEAKER_02: You saw you won it.
- 48:48SPEAKER_03: Beetlejuice is conquered by friendship.
- 48:50SPEAKER_03: I gotta say.
- 48:51SPEAKER_03: It is the truth.
- 48:52SPEAKER_03: Beetlejuice lost to friendship.
- 48:56SPEAKER_00: I mean, unless he like somehow becomes like a surrogate to one of Lady D's daughters, you know?
- 49:04SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 49:05SPEAKER_00: Like he won Nona Riders one of Lady D's daughters.
- 49:11SPEAKER_00: Um what I see happening here.
- 49:15SPEAKER_00: Um we're not at the vote yet, but this is what I think's gonna go down.
- 49:18SPEAKER_00: You gotta wrap it up fast.
- 49:20SPEAKER_00: I think I think that I I I think it's uh it's a matter of we have a super powerful main character theme coming from Austin right here.
- 49:33SPEAKER_00: And I think that I I think that if Beetlejuice was coming at Austin, I think Beetlejuice would take it.
- 49:42SPEAKER_00: But what I think happens here is that Lady D offsets that.
- 49:58SPEAKER_00: You know, just you know, just that image of Austin like judo chopping the air as vampire dragons coming at him.
- 50:05SPEAKER_00: Uh a 10-foot sex pot is like totally the Austin Powers thing.
- 50:12SPEAKER_00: And I think Lady D plays into that theme.
- 50:14SPEAKER_00: I I will say that I think Beetlejuice, and I and we'll we'll have to bring Lynn back on.
- 50:19SPEAKER_00: His bag, baby.
- 50:20SPEAKER_00: I think that Beetlejuice would have beaten Austin.
- 50:24SPEAKER_00: But I think with the three of them, Austin takes it because Lady D is there.
- 50:30SPEAKER_03: Um but Mike He gets a free he gets a free second partner because he seduces her.
- 50:37SPEAKER_00: Main character energy, you're right.
- 50:39SPEAKER_00: Well, well, Mike, it's your you're up here.
- 50:42SPEAKER_00: Final thoughts and a vote.
- 50:44SPEAKER_00: See, I can go and high and dry destroy for you next.
- 50:47SPEAKER_01: I could go clearly see which way this is going.
- 50:50SPEAKER_01: So I could I could play with the winning side here and just assume you guys are right, which I won't concede.
- 51:05SPEAKER_01: Overall, we're sitting on a three-way tie, and you guys just aren't mad enough to deal with the consequences of this mistake.
- 51:14SPEAKER_00: No, I think what happens here is that the hound jumps back in and then kills Jason in front of everyone, and then the battlefield star.
- 51:30SPEAKER_00: Oh, fuck.
- 51:31SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 51:32SPEAKER_00: So you your final vote then, Mike, before we cut that down.
- 51:36SPEAKER_01: I think it's a three-way tie.
- 51:37SPEAKER_01: Fuck you guys.
- 51:41SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait, he just changed things then.
- 51:43SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
- 51:44SPEAKER_03: It's still we still both vote for Austin, so it doesn't matter.
- 51:49SPEAKER_03: It didn't change anything.
- 51:52SPEAKER_01: I'm fucking the wrong side again.
- 51:54SPEAKER_01: This is bullshit.
- 51:57SPEAKER_01: This podcast sucks.
- 51:59SPEAKER_01: I'm unsubscribing.
- 52:00SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell my followers not subscribe.
- 52:03SPEAKER_01: This is on you.
- 52:04SPEAKER_01: You lost two of us.
- 52:05SPEAKER_03: Listen, this method is is patented.
- 52:08SPEAKER_03: It is it is the US government has said that this is a we there's value in this.
- 52:20SPEAKER_02: It says it has value.
- 52:21SPEAKER_02: So fuck you.
- 52:24SPEAKER_02: Fuck God, it's not you, sir.
- 52:26SPEAKER_02: Fuck you.
- 52:30SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
- 52:31SPEAKER_00: Um so Mike, you you've been on a couple podcasts.
- 52:35SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're a successful author.
- 52:37SPEAKER_00: Has the podcast ever gone?
- 52:39SPEAKER_00: No.
- 52:40SPEAKER_00: Fuck you.
- 52:43SPEAKER_01: All right, fair enough.
- 52:44SPEAKER_01: Fuck me.
- 52:45SPEAKER_01: I get it.
- 52:45SPEAKER_01: I get it.
- 52:46SPEAKER_01: I see.
- 52:47SPEAKER_01: I see it.
- 52:51SPEAKER_03: Well, this was a blast.
- 52:53SPEAKER_03: I really enjoyed this one.
- 52:56SPEAKER_02: Well, James, what's your vote?
- 52:57SPEAKER_02: Uh my vote's Austin.
- 52:59SPEAKER_02: Shut up.
- 52:59SPEAKER_02: You were both Austin.
- 53:00SPEAKER_02: It's Austin.
- 53:01SPEAKER_02: We know what happened.
- 53:02SPEAKER_02: Everyone was listening.
- 53:04SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna have to go with uh Lady D.
- 53:07SPEAKER_04: We did it!
- 53:11SPEAKER_00: Um uh well yeah, so James, you're you're Austin.
- 53:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 53:15SPEAKER_00: Um and uh um uh you argued for Austin for like three minutes.
- 53:21SPEAKER_03: He might have changed my mind.
- 53:22SPEAKER_00: He might have changed my mind.
- 53:24SPEAKER_00: He did he did say fuck you to you.
- 53:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he said fuck you, remember?
- 53:29SPEAKER_00: Um I'm gonna uh let me think.
- 53:33SPEAKER_00: Let me think.
- 53:35SPEAKER_00: Let me think.
- 53:36SPEAKER_00: Well, then we're good to go.
- 53:37SPEAKER_00: So this one goes out to Austin Powers.
- 53:41SPEAKER_00: Woo!
- 53:41SPEAKER_03: Way to go, Austin, on winning our first tournament.
- 53:44SPEAKER_03: No, we are one.
- 53:46SPEAKER_04: Mike, Mike, we are one it's rigged.
- 53:49SPEAKER_03: We Mike, we are one in our decision.
- 53:52SPEAKER_03: You can't go against this.
- 53:54SPEAKER_03: This is how high and dry works.
- 53:56SPEAKER_03: You're for those of you out there who have never heard the podcast.
- 54:00SPEAKER_03: When someone disagrees on the vote, we shank them, their opinion magically changes.
- 54:06SPEAKER_01: We just shank them to death.
- 54:10SPEAKER_03: And their opinion changes.
- 54:15SPEAKER_00: Okay, so Mike, thank you so much for joining us.
- 54:19SPEAKER_00: It was a blast, it really was.
- 54:23SPEAKER_00: Where can we get to?
- 54:25SPEAKER_01: Um, you can find me at Mike Saltauthor.com.
- 54:30SPEAKER_01: I rarely update that website.
- 54:33SPEAKER_01: If you really want to find me, go to Instagram, Mike underscore salt, and I'll probably be the guy that just talks shit to people regularly.
- 54:44SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
- 54:45SPEAKER_03: Sure.
- 54:45SPEAKER_03: It fits with our thing.
- 54:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:50SPEAKER_00: So um we're getting an echo on Mike over there.
- 54:55SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
- 54:56SPEAKER_00: Let's close it up.
- 54:57SPEAKER_00: Fuck it.
- 54:57SPEAKER_00: Alright, so thank you everyone for listening to High and Dry.
- 55:01SPEAKER_00: We really appreciate it.
- 55:02SPEAKER_00: That was Mike Salt.
- 55:03SPEAKER_00: That's me.
- 55:03SPEAKER_00: I'm Ryan Barron North.
- 55:05SPEAKER_00: This is James Crosslin.
- 55:06SPEAKER_00: James sucks.
- 55:08SPEAKER_02: That is you.
- 55:10SPEAKER_00: And true.
- 55:11SPEAKER_00: Uh Mike, one more time from High and Dry.
- 55:14SPEAKER_00: Fuck you.
- 55:15SPEAKER_02: Thank you for coming on.
- 55:19SPEAKER_00: All right, everyone.