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S2E11 - Still Searching for Hailey Athay_ Shasta Ives Speaks(M4A_128K) · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In Tragedy a true crime podcast, we discuss missing persons, cases,
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  Speaker 1: support the families we feature. Welcome to Tragedy a True
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  Speaker 2: I'm Elisa and I'm Michael.
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  Speaker 1: Today we're joined by Shasta Ives, a close friend of
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  Speaker 1: Haley Athy. Shasta new Hailey beyond the headlines, who she was,
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  Speaker 1: how she showed up for the people she loved, and
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  Speaker 1: the kind of light she carried into every room. She's
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  Speaker 1: here to help us remember Haley is a person and
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  Speaker 1: to share why her disappearance still weighs so heavily on
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  Speaker 1: those who knew her best. Thank you for being here,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 3: I thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 4: One thing we like to do at the beginning of
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  Speaker 4: these shows now suddenly started doing for season two is
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  Speaker 4: kind of getting playing a little bit of a game.
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  Speaker 4: It's just a couple of questions to kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: get to know each other a little bit, and you
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  Speaker 4: get to know more about us, and you know, and
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  Speaker 4: listeners get to know a little bit more about you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So here's the first one. Summer Olympics
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  Speaker 1: or Winter Olympics.
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  Speaker 5: Summer and why I love the warm I can't really
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  Speaker 5: do good in the cold.
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: I feel that much of the United States is experiencing
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  Speaker 1: some cold, but not where we are. It's nice here too.
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  Speaker 1: It is nice, and I really love the Olympics. I
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people really don't watch the Olympics,
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  Speaker 1: but for some reason, something I've always found really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I really used to watch a lot of the figures skating.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I thought that was really fun
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  Speaker 1: and interesting. But I think I could watch both. I
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily have a preference for summer or winter. I
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  Speaker 1: like the swimming events, so you know, excuse me something
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  Speaker 1: to look forward to in the summer. So I think
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  Speaker 1: maybe I would say a little bit of each.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Next question, what's your favorite holiday?
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  Speaker 3: And why? I would say Christmas?
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  Speaker 5: Probably because I have a three year old daughter, and
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  Speaker 5: I love to watch her open. The presence and the
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  Speaker 5: expressions on her face are priceless.
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  Speaker 1: How about you, Michael, what's your favorite holiday?
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  Speaker 2: With me?
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  Speaker 4: It's I would say it's probably going to be Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 4: and it's because we spent years always hosting Thanksgiving, and
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  Speaker 4: then I kind of built this tradition of frying turkeys,
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  Speaker 4: which I got really good at after many, many years
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  Speaker 4: of doing it. And I just enjoy the family get
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  Speaker 4: togethers and just the just no pressure. It's everyone seems
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  Speaker 4: to have good time, and I just enjoyed that being
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  Speaker 4: part of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, remember that one year we decided we were going
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  Speaker 1: to boycott hosting Thanksgiving, and so we just went. We
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  Speaker 1: went up to the mountains by ourselves, and we were
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  Speaker 1: so bored.
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  Speaker 2: We got we got our airbnbing. We were like, now,
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  Speaker 2: what isn't so boring we do? Now, I'm just to
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  Speaker 2: be frying a turkey.
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  Speaker 4: So we only did it one time and like, let's
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  Speaker 4: go back to hosting because it's one of those things
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  Speaker 4: we had taken for granted.
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  Speaker 2: How much fun it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday too, but it's
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  Speaker 1: because you get everybody together, but you don't have the
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  Speaker 1: pressure of getting the just right present for everybody. And
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  Speaker 1: then my second favorite is fourth of July. I just
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  Speaker 1: love summer and staying up late. And now with those
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  Speaker 1: shows they have with the drones instead of the fireworks.
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  Speaker 2: Those are amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to see one of those yet.
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  Speaker 4: They're definitely if you ever see one, even even just
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  Speaker 4: looking at it on YouTube, it's definitely worth seeing them.
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  Speaker 4: They've done some amazing stuff with what they're doing. I
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  Speaker 4: can I can imagine this is going to start to
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  Speaker 4: become more and more popular.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's safer too, right, it feels like it. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and the last question, tell us about a hobby that
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  Speaker 1: you really love.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, the pressure.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: She did say she has a three year old, so hobby.
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  Speaker 1: This might not be a thing.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, I go, they're really her hobbies. They are
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  Speaker 3: what we do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, really, we like to We have a subscription
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  Speaker 5: to Chuck e Cheese. She loves Chuck e Cheese right now,
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  Speaker 5: and really we try and check out all the Chuck
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  Speaker 5: e Cheese as we can.
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  Speaker 3: If we pass by one. We bought a stop.
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  Speaker 1: I knew he's gonna ask you a question.
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  Speaker 2: Get ready, what is a subscription cheese?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I don't do what her dad does, but
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  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he pees like a monthly amount and
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  Speaker 5: we're allowed to go unlimited times every month and she
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  Speaker 5: gets like so many points on a card when we go.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's free pizza, free games both.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's it's free games.
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  Speaker 5: You get like a discount I believe on like pizza
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  Speaker 5: and the food, that kind of stuff, possibly even a
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  Speaker 5: birthday package.
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  Speaker 3: We really go for the games.
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  Speaker 2: No understood. Whenever I think of that, I was, you know, I.
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  Speaker 4: Used to always threaten Emma Elisa's daughter that we were
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  Speaker 4: gonna take her chuck E Cheese for her sixteenth birthday,
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  Speaker 4: and she was so mad, especially considering I sold at
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  Speaker 4: one time where I literally pulled into the parking lot.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, no, I don't want to go.
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  Speaker 4: But then I also had a friend of mine in
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  Speaker 4: high school that that was actually chucky. So he was
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  Speaker 4: the guy who walked around in in the mouse outfit
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  Speaker 4: and we made fun of him all he made a
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  Speaker 4: mistake when he let us find out.
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  Speaker 2: That's good for.
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  Speaker 4: Because we did nothing, But in fact, We kept going
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  Speaker 4: to Chuck E Cheese even as we were in high school,
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  Speaker 4: just to watch him walk around and deal with us.
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  Speaker 3: That is so funny.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I remember Chuck E Cheese being a reward, but
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  Speaker 1: the only time I would take her is when she'd
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  Speaker 1: had teeth pulled. So and she had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: teeth pulled, like I think twelve or thirteen or fourteen
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  Speaker 1: over the course of a year, braces and all this.
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  Speaker 1: So Chuck E Cheese was the reward for having to
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  Speaker 1: go to the dentist. But I think by the time
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  Speaker 1: she was sixteen, it really wasn't a reward anymore. That's hilarious. Okay, there.
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  Speaker 1: I did not expect to talk about Chuck E Cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I did, and that's why we do this.
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  Speaker 1: That's an amazing question. How about you, Michael, Do you
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  Speaker 1: have a hobby that you'd like to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone who knows me knows that my hobby's fly fishing,
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  Speaker 4: and so fly fishing is it's elevated more than just
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  Speaker 4: a hobby. It's more of a religion at this point.
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  Speaker 4: And so I do flyfishing all over the country and
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  Speaker 4: I was a guide for Rocky Mount National Park for
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  Speaker 4: a while. So that's one of the things I miss
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  Speaker 4: about now we're in Florida because it's not easy just
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  Speaker 4: to go grab my fly rod and run out to
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  Speaker 4: a river now, because it's not it's just not that
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  Speaker 4: type of area. So but you know, we're gonna be
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  Speaker 4: heading out there this summer, so we'll be getting the
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  Speaker 4: fly fishing bug taking care of well.
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  Speaker 1: I remember we did go to Washington and we did
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of fly fishing and Trimpic National Park and
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  Speaker 1: Mount Rainier National Park. So we were out there, I
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  Speaker 1: think that was two years ago, two years ago, and
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  Speaker 1: we spent I want to say, like three weeks. We
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  Speaker 1: did not get as far north as North Cascades National
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  Speaker 1: Park as you can tell. Maybe that's my hobby visiting
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  Speaker 1: national parks. But that was incredibly weed some paddle boarding
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  Speaker 1: and that was.
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  Speaker 3: A great trip.
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  Speaker 2: He was I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that was really fun.
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  Speaker 3: Michael, thank you, You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it all right, So let's talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about Hailey. So we want to start with
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  Speaker 1: what do you want people to know about Hailey.
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  Speaker 5: Well, she is one of my best friends. I've known
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  Speaker 5: her for fifteen plus years and she is one of
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  Speaker 5: the most like genuine and big hearted people I've ever met, Like,
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  Speaker 5: no matter who you are, if she just met you,
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  Speaker 5: if she's known you forever, she she'd always like if
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  Speaker 5: she's seen you crying or going through something, she'd always
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  Speaker 5: be the first one there to like, Hey, what's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Are you okay? And then try and cheer you up
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  Speaker 5: at the same time. She like her smile was so contagious.
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  Speaker 5: She could literally walk in a room and anybody would
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  Speaker 5: just She's just so bubbly, so full of personality in life.
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  Speaker 5: I just want people to know that she's loved and
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  Speaker 5: she's missed, and no matter where she's.
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  Speaker 6: At, we will keep seeking to find her and bring
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  Speaker 6: her home and seek justice for her, because that's what
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  Speaker 6: her daughters.
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  Speaker 5: She has three beautiful daughters that are at home waiting
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  Speaker 5: for her. So we just asked that people keep their
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  Speaker 5: eyes and their ears open and if they know anything,
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  Speaker 5: to please reach out, even to just me, if they
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  Speaker 5: would don't feel comfortable reaching out to the Sheriff's department,
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  Speaker 5: if they would like to remain anonymous. Yeah, that's it's
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  Speaker 5: really what We've just been trying to find her for
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  Speaker 5: the last year and try and find any kind of
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  Speaker 5: lead information that anybody give us to find her, or
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  Speaker 5: where she last was, any kind of information.
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  Speaker 1: And so in the days and maybe even months leading
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  Speaker 1: up to her disappearance, did you notice anything different or
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  Speaker 1: unusual or something as you reflect back, anything that stood
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  Speaker 1: out to you leading up to when she disappeared.
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  Speaker 5: Hayley struggled with addiction off and on. She was currently
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  Speaker 5: battling her addiction in the time she went missing. So
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  Speaker 5: I myself have almost ten years clean, and so I
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  Speaker 5: didn't always get to see her every day. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I have to kind of keep a distance, but I
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  Speaker 5: always mess said, you know, I always checked on her, like, hey, Harry,
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  Speaker 5: you doing, what are you doing? Love you, miss you?
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  Speaker 5: You know that kind of thing, Happy holidays.
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  Speaker 3: And it was one of those.
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  Speaker 5: Situations where it was coming up on a holidays.
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  Speaker 3: I had actually drove.
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  Speaker 5: I was driving down the road and I seen her
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  Speaker 5: walking and I was like what And I stopped and
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  Speaker 5: pulled over and picked her up and gave her a
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  Speaker 5: ride and kind a doctor her and gave her a
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  Speaker 5: ride somewhere, told her I loved her and I missed her.
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  Speaker 5: We talked about trying to get her into an impatient
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  Speaker 5: facility in detoxing and getting her the things she would
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  Speaker 5: need for that. So I continued messaging her after I'd
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  Speaker 5: gave her that ride, and that was probably the beginning
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  Speaker 5: of November. So around November eleventh, I messaged I had
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  Speaker 5: seen her at Safeway on Ocean Beach Highway in long View.
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  Speaker 5: I seen her and she asked me if I could
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  Speaker 5: give her a ride, and I told her yes, and
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  Speaker 5: I'd be waiting for her outside and I was out
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  Speaker 5: in my car and I seen her come.
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  Speaker 3: Out of the doors.
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  Speaker 5: Well, she was having troubles with her card she was
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  Speaker 5: trying to use, so she told me it's okay, I
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  Speaker 5: could just go, and she talked to me later. So
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  Speaker 5: I went home and I had messaged her, Hey, sorry,
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  Speaker 5: I hope your card worked out, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 5: I had talked to her a few times after that,
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  Speaker 5: and that's when I kind of noticed. Around November seventeen,
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  Speaker 5: maybe a few days later, I noticed she wasn't active
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  Speaker 5: on Facebook, and I was like, oh, that's odd. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I kind of kept an eye on that for.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Like a week or two, and I was like, I
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  Speaker 5: noticed she hadn't been active at all, and that's not
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  Speaker 5: like Haylee. She did tell me when I gave her
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  Speaker 5: a ride somebody had stolen her phone, but that she
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  Speaker 5: still had her tablet to get on Facebook with and
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  Speaker 5: that's how she would communicate with people, and that she
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  Speaker 5: had planned on trying to get another phone. So I
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  Speaker 5: was like, when she hadn't been active for a few weeks,
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  Speaker 5: I had reached out to a few people and just said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: have you seen Haley or have you talked to her?
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  Speaker 5: And they just kind of told me, you know, she's
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  Speaker 5: just kind of doing her thing. So when Christmas had came,
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  Speaker 5: so it was Thanksgiving and I had messaged her and
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  Speaker 5: said Happy Thanksgiving, and my message I had went through.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry to be kind of jumpy all around, My messages
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  Speaker 5: had gone through.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 5: I noticed when I because I would message her, Hey, Haley.
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  Speaker 3: I'm worried. I'm worried. Where are you? I love you?
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  Speaker 5: Hey, just message me. I'm not trying to bug you
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  Speaker 5: about treatment or anything. I just want to know you're okay.
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  Speaker 5: My messages stopped going through on Facebook or on Messenger,
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  Speaker 5: and that was really off to me. It like said
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  Speaker 5: could like messages could not be sent. So I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: what is going on? So I'd reached out to a
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  Speaker 5: few friends that I knew if anything, they would know
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  Speaker 5: what was going on with Haley, like either if she
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  Speaker 5: got clean or if she was in jail anything. They
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  Speaker 5: hadn't heard anything. So I waited a little bit longer,
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  Speaker 5: and it was Christmas time messaged the Facebook profile, and
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  Speaker 5: my messages still didn't go like they would send on
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  Speaker 5: my end, but they would say like still not being sent.
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  Speaker 5: On January third, I I had reported Hailey missing, like
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  Speaker 5: I had made Facebook posts asking has anyone heard of
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  Speaker 5: Haley or heard from Hailey or they've seen her or
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  Speaker 5: anything that I was worried. There was comments that they
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  Speaker 5: haven't seen her for a few weeks. It wouldn't be
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  Speaker 5: the first time she's disappeared, not since.
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  Speaker 3: She was with so and so. Then on January.
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  Speaker 5: Fourth, I had made another Facebook post just saying, please
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  Speaker 5: help me. I've called KPD, knocked on doors, drove everywhere,
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  Speaker 5: stock tosses, messaged everyone I could think of, and I
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  Speaker 5: would read those comments and those comments would be like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: the last time I seen her she was with so
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  Speaker 5: and so or so nobody has seen her.
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  Speaker 3: Over the holidays, or the last time I.
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  Speaker 5: Seen her was on Thanksgiving Day, going out mushroom picking
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  Speaker 5: with so and so, and then there'd view comments like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: the last time I seen her was in Kelso at
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  Speaker 5: the laundry maat with this person. So I'd try and
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  Speaker 5: follow all those leads like message those people, go speak
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  Speaker 5: with them, go to the laundrymat, ask people around there,
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  Speaker 5: that kind of thing. There was nothing, still no Hayley.
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  Speaker 5: On January f I called the police Department the Sheriff's
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  Speaker 5: office to be exact, and I filed the missing person's
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  Speaker 5: report because I had not seen Hailey, and nobody that
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  Speaker 5: I had talked to had seen Haley in four plus weeks.
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  Speaker 3: That's not like Hailey. On that same day, I made.
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  Speaker 5: A post for the missing people of Washington State, and
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  Speaker 5: I gave.
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  Speaker 3: Her description, the last places she's.
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  Speaker 5: Known to be, tattoos, and the last time she was
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  Speaker 5: possibly seen. January sixth, I was able to speak to
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  Speaker 5: some friends that said Haley had used their phone. They
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  Speaker 5: said they were able to get her Facebook passwords and
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  Speaker 5: stuff from the core of their phone, so they gave
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  Speaker 5: me those so I could give to the police department
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  Speaker 5: to go through and be able to see if they
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  Speaker 5: could get any information from her Facebook because it was
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  Speaker 5: working and then it wasn't working for the messages. On
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  Speaker 5: January sixth, I had made a Facebook post. I just
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  Speaker 5: wanted to update everybody as to what was going on.
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  Speaker 5: I said, I don't know where Haley is. I have
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  Speaker 5: ideas of who she was last seen with, but I
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  Speaker 5: have not made contact with the said person. I am
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  Speaker 5: trying her Facebook messages have not helped at all. I'm
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  Speaker 5: still working on that. I have searched places that I
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  Speaker 5: will be going back to and if no luck, then
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  Speaker 5: with search and rescue. I am trying to check every
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  Speaker 5: place possible. I've reached out to so many people in
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  Speaker 5: an out of addiction that it's insane. She has not
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  Speaker 5: been spotted or contacted anyone. So yes, this has me
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  Speaker 5: on high alert. This is not like Hailey. Not one
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  Speaker 5: person I have talked to has seen her. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: not giving up.
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  Speaker 3: Please pray. There was like a lot of comments on that.
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  Speaker 5: Post saying where they thought she could be or who
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  Speaker 5: she could be with.
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  Speaker 3: One comment kind of had us all a little shocked.
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  Speaker 5: They said they had messaged the person she was supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be with when she went out mushroom picking, and
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  Speaker 5: the girl said the guy immediately blocked her, like the
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  Speaker 5: second she asked about Haley, he just blocked her. And
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  Speaker 5: they've been friends for like twenty plus years, so she said.
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  Speaker 3: That was very odd.
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  Speaker 5: He's never acted like that. I never got to make
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  Speaker 5: contact with him myself. Still to this day, I have not.
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  Speaker 5: On January seventh, I had made another Facebook update that
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  Speaker 5: had said, uh, you guys who still.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't found Haley. I'm trying so hard.
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  Speaker 5: I've been out every day, knocking on doors, following leads everything.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like today I didn't get anywhere. I mean,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: I got some addresses checked off the list, but it's
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: frustrating and hard. I feel like so much wasted time today.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Every time I get a new lead or a new
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: address and show up there and high hopes that this
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: is it, this is where she is, and it's nothing,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to lie and getting exhausted, but I
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: won't give up.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I'm so sick. I just want to find my friend.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm running out of ideas or scenarios.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I need ideas, I need help. The only thing I
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: can think to do is start reaching out to the
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: gentleman I've talked to and see if I should get
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: a group of us together and go with his dogs
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: and possibly search areas or areas given how many can
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: come help Friday or Saturday.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I need a group. These areas are huge. Please keep praying.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: So just during these times, I haven't stopped.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I am. I've barely slept. I won't lie.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: The first six months of Hailey missing, I probably slept
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: for three hours a night. I was constantly trying to
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: follow leads, find her, follow up on anything and everything.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I'd go out at two o'clock.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: In the morning, like especially when it first started snowing.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I didn't want anything to be lost if I could
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: find it. On January twenty fifth, I set up I
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: believe it was our search first group, our first search group,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: and we searched the Coal Creek area. On February first,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: I also set up a search group, and this time
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: we searched Kelso area. I made a post on February
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: third asking for help trying to find Haley with a
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: bunch of pictures because February third is National Missing Person's Day.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: On March eleventh, the.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Daily News shared Haley's story. On March seventeenth, the main
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: suspect was arrested for again for a DOC warrant while
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: searched police fan of firearm, so he has also had
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: a chart got a charge for that while he was incarcerated.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: On March eighteenth, we had shirts made to bring awareness
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: to Haley's name and story. Around May third, we set
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: up another search to meet in Castle Rock and search
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: the same area again because they're very vast areas. On July,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: we started noticing. Around July thirtieth, we started noticing activity
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: on Hailey's Facebook. Somebody took it upon themselves to go
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: on and off of her Facebook, and then they decided
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: to take it a step further and start changing things
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: on one of her facebooks. The things they decided to
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: change and say and do were very foul and inappropriate,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: to say the least. I don't know what their intentions
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: were with that, but I can tell you it wasn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: very nice just because of the things they said.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Just so I'm clear on that, let me sorry to interrupt. Yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: you say they were making changes on her Facebook. Are
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: we talking about posting or did they have access to
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: her profile?
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: They did actually post, so they post.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: They weren't doing things as her or in her profile.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: They were just posting on her page both both interesting,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: so they were able to get the password to her
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Facebook account.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Yes, okay, yeah, they had changed like things they added
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: like a song to her Facebook profile, they changed her
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: job place. They had came on and initially made a
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: post saying I don't care about family, I don't care
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: about anything, and I think they were going to try
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: and portray like they were Haley, but it didn't work
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: because immediately the Facebook was blown up like people calling
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: where are you where?
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: What are you doing? Haiti da da da?
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: And that's when the truth showed that it wasn't really
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Haley is because their replies to the comments where are you?
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: We're worried da da da. They were saying stuff like
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I'm in hell and very vulgar, explicit things that shouldn't
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: be said about somebody missing, you know, yeah, very foul things.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Around August eighteenth, the gentleman that said, so, I think
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: I actually skipped a part and I apologize. After I
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: had reported Hailey missing, the detectives had done searching and
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: talk to people. They had came to the conclusion that
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: a gentleman was the last person she was to be
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: seen with, and they were supposed to go mushroom picking. Well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: the said person was arrested for a doc warn't. While
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: they were incarcerated for that, the detectives had gone and
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: talked with them. The said person said, yes, Haley and
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: him were out mushroom.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Picking, but that he lost left Haley out.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: There and yeah, went on called Forde and went on
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: about his day. I'm not quite sure how the rest
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: of that played out, but he directed the detectives to
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: a supposable area they were and they went out with
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: canine dogs and searched the area that had had no luck.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: So that is the gentleman I'm referring to in this.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: While he was arrested the second time and he was searched,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that's when he the he got a possession of a firearm.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: They found a firearm firearm on him in Clark County.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: And while he was in Clark County waiting to plead
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: for that charge, what kayakumb County had filed a vehglar
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: homicide charge for a woman that had been killed six
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: months prior to Hailey missing. I guess the gentleman was
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: driving erratically with his passenger and they had wrecked and
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: the passenger had lost her life and so they had
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: investigated that for a year and they decided to press charges.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: So the gentleman that is suspected in Haley's case is
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: currently incarcerated for another woman's stuff, you know, and he
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: has trial coming up February night through the twelfth. We're
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: kind of just waiting to see how that plays out. Hopefully,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: while he is incarcerated for all of this, we can
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: get some answers for Haley.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I do have a question. I was seeing on social
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: media and some other places that I've been looking at
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: there are some images of her with someone, like going
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: out in the evening. Is this the same person that
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you're talking about.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure you've seen what.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I saw on social media that there were some video
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: taken of her where she was out with someone. This
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: is what I saw publicly, someone she had met online,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and that was like the last visual image of her.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Is that accurate, because that's what I remember reading.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: To be honest, I don't know. I'm not quite sure
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: what it is you're talking about.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is a good thing to clarify that sometimes
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: what is out there on social media or you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: isn't necessarily what really happened. So I will go back
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and do some double checking on that, because this is
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: why we have these conversations. If somebody were just to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: search her name and say, hey, what happened they they're
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: going to possibly come across the same information that I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: had that it said she'd met somebody online and she
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: was going to meet him to go out, you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: for dinner or something like that. But you're describing something
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: totally different as far as the mushroom picking. So that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: what I just wanted to get some clarity on that,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and it sounds like maybe it's a different story that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I was reading.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not quite sure it's so sorry.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, No, that's okay. That's why we ask these questions
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and get the clarity.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I do really like that you started talking about how
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: law enforcement was supporting because I'm hearing you going out
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of course because you're a good friend of hers and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: doing everything you can possibly do, and I'm wondering, was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: there any support from law enforcement with all these things
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that you were doing, or were they sort of off
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: doing their own searching Tell me more about that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: To be honest, I can't really speak on what they're
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: doing because I don't really know it's an open investigation,
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: so they haven't really shared too much. The only thing
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: we've really been told is the situation had stated he
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: left lost Haley in the woods on Thanksgiving Day in
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Rose Valley area and Haley has not been seen since.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I personally, do you know that or don't know?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: The detective you know, but.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: I personally, if I have people reach out with information
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: and say hey, can you pass this along, I definitely do.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You did also mention some canine searches. Can you talk
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about that organization?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, the canine searches, So I know the Sheriff's office
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: has gone out to areas and searched with their canine team.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Here locally, we do also have a gentleman that trains
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: canine units and you can pay he's like a private investigator.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: You can pay for his services as well, and he
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: can go out with his dogs and search. We had
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: actually created a GoFundMe for instances like that if that
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: was the route we were going to go. We created
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: it so that if we needed to hire, I've an
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: investigator or let's say those search and rescue dogs that
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: are private. We've printed flyers, stickers, we've done shirts to
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: help spread her name and awareness to her story. Contacted
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: news stations, I've reached out to influencers and podcasts just
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: like you, guys, thank you so much for covering her story.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about the impact that her disappearance
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: has had on you.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Oh gosh, you're gonna make me cry. I definitely say
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: my life has changed dramatically this last year. I don't
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: think there's not a day that has gone by I
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: haven't thought about her, or where she could be, or
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: what I need to do to help bring her home.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: It's hard, it's rough.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: I can only imagine what her family is going through.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: If me, as a friend, I feel this, I feel
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: her daughters deserve to have their mother. You know, I'm home,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: And if that's not the case, they at least deserve
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: somewhere they can go and visit and talk with her
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: and bring her flowers. She has two younger daughters that
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: they're pretty young, so I don't know if they'll get
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: to remember everything, and that that's really hard.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And if anyone has any information I've heard you talk about,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's the Kelso Police Department. You also talked
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: about the Sheriff's office, what would be the best place
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: for people to contact with any information they might have.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Sorry, excuse me, Yes, the Cal's ken Sheriff's office. The
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: phone ober is three six zero five seven seven thirty
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: ninety two, and the case number is A two five
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: dash two four seven. And the detective on the case
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: is James Hanberry.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And is there any anything else that you'd like to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: share about Haley that we did not give you an
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: opportunity to share.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: I don't believe so, but I just want to say
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: thank you guys so much for sharing her name and
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: her story. And anybody out their LED's listening. Please if
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: you know anything, even if you think it's the smallest detail,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: it could be the biggest thing to us. Please just
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: reach out. Thank you.
• 30:29
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