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- 0:31Speaker 1: Are you writing this down? No.
- 0:32Speaker 4: Something completely different. This is Chuck in the Morning.
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- 0:54Speaker 4: Hey, great Wednesday morning to you all. Welcome into the
- 0:56Speaker 4: radio show here on a home date. It's Chuck Powell,
- 1:01Speaker 4: and it is Ashley Ryan welcoming you in to our
- 1:05Speaker 4: radio show, our hearts, and our lives.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Not our minds, though. You're not getting in there.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Oh, gosh. Not again.
- 1:12Speaker 3: No.
- 1:12Speaker 4: Oh, the things you convinced me to do a couple
- 1:14Speaker 4: of years ago.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:16Speaker 5: Oh, man.
- 1:17Speaker 4: And I was listening to all those voices inside my head.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Not making that mistake again.
- 1:22Speaker 4: I really regret a lot of that stuff.
- 1:24Speaker 6: Right?
- 1:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:25Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:25Speaker 4: As I sit here today, I wish I wouldn't have
- 1:27Speaker 4: done that, but... You know, the power of suggestion, I guess.
- 1:30Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And you live and you learn, Chuck.
- 1:32Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:33Speaker 4: That's what I think.
- 1:34Speaker 2: So now we know.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:36Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Whoopsie doodle.
- 1:37Speaker 4: Exactly. I'll never tie my aunt to a chair again
- 1:40Speaker 4: in the basement.
- 1:42Speaker 2: For the fourth time.
- 1:44Speaker 4: Yeah, four times is enough. And that's kind of what
- 1:47Speaker 4: my uncle told me.
- 1:48Speaker 2: That's about when you learn the lesson.
- 1:50Speaker 4: Right. Uncle Dick was like, four times, I think, is enough, Chuck.
- 1:54Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:55Speaker 4: And I'm like, you're right.
- 1:56Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:57Speaker 4: I see the light.
- 1:57Speaker 8: And then you did it a fifth. Then he was like, no,
- 1:59Speaker 8: I told you four was enough. And you realized, yes,
- 2:01Speaker 8: I need to start to listen to Uncle Dick more often.
- 2:04Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 2:05Speaker 4: And then he got the authorities involved.
- 2:07Speaker 5: Ugh.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Anyway, it's a dark part of my past, and I'd
- 2:09Speaker 4: like not to relive it.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Sorry for bringing that up.
- 2:12Speaker 4: Welcome into the radio program. It is Ashley Ryan. My
- 2:15Speaker 4: name is Chuck Powell. We've got you until 10 o'clock
- 2:17Speaker 4: here this morning. I'm going to tell you what's on
- 2:19Speaker 4: tap here in a little bit. We've got a lot
- 2:22Speaker 4: of things going on in the professional sports realm, also
- 2:26Speaker 4: in our personal lives, which we're going to dive into
- 2:28Speaker 4: in a little moment. As just a light way to
- 2:32Speaker 4: start the show, I heard word that somewhere in Mill Creek,
- 2:37Speaker 4: Somebody with the fall spirit decided to usher in the
- 2:43Speaker 4: greatest of our four seasons here as humans. And so
- 2:50Speaker 4: I would like to thank that person for, and maybe
- 2:52Speaker 4: you did jump the gun a little bit. Maybe you did.
- 2:54Speaker 4: Maybe we weren't ready for your fall candles to be
- 2:57Speaker 4: lit last night. I still have the air conditioner on
- 3:01Speaker 4: in my house. Doesn't feel like fall to me. Yeah.
- 3:05Speaker 4: I wouldn't have it on. It wouldn't be my choice,
- 3:08Speaker 4: but someone else has made that choice. And I was
- 3:11Speaker 4: just thinking about, man, to be in Mill Creek and
- 3:13Speaker 4: the windows open and a fall candle burning. I give
- 3:17Speaker 4: credit to this person. Wonderful person.
- 3:19Speaker 8: It's almost like you were in my house, Chuck, because
- 3:22Speaker 8: our air conditioner, actually, last week, we had someone come
- 3:25Speaker 8: out to look at it, and they said, you need
- 3:26Speaker 8: a new one. Oh.
- 3:27Speaker 2: So it has not been running. So we did have
- 3:30Speaker 2: the windows open last night, and it got a little cooler.
- 3:33Speaker 2: The breeze was a little.
- 3:34Speaker 4: Cooler last night.
- 3:34Speaker 7: It did.
- 3:35Speaker 4: I think it dipped into the 50s last night.
- 3:36Speaker 8: Yeah, and so we had the windows open while we
- 3:38Speaker 8: were sitting around, eating dinner, watching a show, watching TV,
- 3:43Speaker 8: watching a game.
- 3:44Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Apple cinnamon candle.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Burning on the counter. That's what we went with.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Yeah, because I thought pumpkin. I almost went pumpkin. And
- 3:54Speaker 2: I thought, you know what?
- 3:55Speaker 5: It's all right.
- 3:56Speaker 4: A lot of fall scents. Yes, exactly.
- 3:58Speaker 7: A lot of aromas.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And I thought, I'm going to go with apple. And
- 4:00Speaker 2: I'm going to ease on into this fall thing. But
- 4:03Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. It was glorious.
- 4:06Speaker 8: And all I kept thinking was, I bet the pumpkin
- 4:08Speaker 8: candle really would have done the job better.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 4:12Speaker 8: But I'm proud of myself because I normally light a
- 4:14Speaker 8: fall candle the last week of August.
- 4:15Speaker 2: So I waited until September 1st.
- 4:18Speaker 4: Light a candle in the window.
- 4:21Speaker 2: I don't know that song, but I think I like it.
- 4:25Speaker 4: CCR. I don't think it was about lighting fall candles.
- 4:28Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
- 4:29Speaker 8: Because I was like, I know the beat sounds familiar.
- 4:31Speaker 8: I didn't know there was a song about candles.
- 4:33Speaker 4: No, no, no. Seems to me you live your life
- 4:37Speaker 4: like a fall candle in the wind.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Yes, that is how I live my life. Thank you.
- 4:42Speaker 4: I think that was about fall colors and smells.
- 4:45Speaker 2: And candles.
- 4:45Speaker 4: Pretty sure.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Definitely about candles. That much we know.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Well, I'm proud of you. I'm happy. I'm glad it's
- 4:52Speaker 4: almost here, and I hope that fall lasts forever this year.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be glorious?
- 4:57Speaker 4: That's my wish. That's my wish, Ray Kinsella.
- 4:59Speaker 2: That would be glorious.
- 5:01Speaker 4: Well, great morning to you all as we get things
- 5:03Speaker 4: started here, and we do have a lot to discuss
- 5:06Speaker 4: here today, including we ramp up officially our preview week
- 5:10Speaker 4: of the college football season. I know they had the
- 5:13Speaker 4: week zero, but it really gets started this week, and...
- 5:18Speaker 4: Both the Cougs and the Dawgs start their seasons on Sunday.
- 5:23Speaker 4: So we wrap up. I mean, maybe that's why you
- 5:25Speaker 4: had it. You had an apple cider cup candle is
- 5:28Speaker 4: what you were thinking.
- 5:29Speaker 1: I was.
- 5:29Speaker 4: Maybe that's what it was. That's what it was. And
- 5:32Speaker 4: we don't play in the pumpkin cup.
- 5:34Speaker 2: No, my subconscious was fully ready for football. That's what
- 5:37Speaker 2: it was.
- 5:37Speaker 4: I think that's what it is.
- 5:38Speaker 2: That makes sense.
- 5:39Speaker 4: It might very well be what it is.
- 5:41Speaker 6: Yep.
- 5:42Speaker 4: You got Apple Cup coming up on Sunday. You're having
- 5:44Speaker 4: a hard time getting into it because it's so weird.
- 5:47Speaker 4: And then subconsciously, you're like, apple candle to start the fall.
- 5:51Speaker 4: And maybe that will get me in the mood for.
- 5:53Speaker 2: The game on Sunday.
- 5:53Speaker 4: And it did.
- 5:54Speaker 2: I'm ready. Bring it on. Can't wait.
- 5:56Speaker 5: Perfect.
- 5:56Speaker 4: Apple cup.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Apple cider cup party. Apple cinnamon candle cup.
- 6:01Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 6:01Speaker 4: You can't have a pumpkin cup. That's just weird. Sounds weird. Well,
- 6:06Speaker 4: I do want to start, though, today with our professional
- 6:09Speaker 4: football team as the hard knock season wrapped up last night.
- 6:14Speaker 4: And I want to give HBO a lot of credit.
- 6:15Speaker 4: And maybe I haven't been paying attention last season. Maybe
- 6:19Speaker 4: other people across the country haven't paid attention to our season.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Maybe that is where it's gone. Where it's really well crafted,
- 6:31Speaker 4: but if you don't know the central characters... Well, maybe
- 6:36Speaker 4: you're not interested. I don't know. Something about, I mean,
- 6:38Speaker 4: I used to live for Hard Knocks. Jackson and I,
- 6:40Speaker 4: when I first moved here, did a Hard Knocks month
- 6:43Speaker 4: where we went through the entire schedule for every team
- 6:48Speaker 4: that the Seahawks played. We went through the entire schedule
- 6:51Speaker 4: and did a little brief Hard Knocks thing on them.
- 6:54Speaker 4: I mean, so I used to love it, couldn't wait
- 6:57Speaker 4: for it. And then all of a sudden, year after year,
- 6:59Speaker 4: I started to lose interest. There was something about it
- 7:02Speaker 4: that just didn't have the same bite that that it
- 7:04Speaker 4: used to have. And then suddenly the team that you
- 7:08Speaker 4: follow and cover for a living is on hard knocks
- 7:11Speaker 4: and you are forced to watch it because we know
- 7:14Speaker 4: that it's going to be content on our radio show.
- 7:17Speaker 4: And I'm so glad that I did because I don't
- 7:19Speaker 4: know if you've been doing such a good job and
- 7:21Speaker 4: maybe I've unfairly treated you HBO, but whoever was in
- 7:25Speaker 4: charge of this season, I mean, like I said, I
- 7:28Speaker 4: don't know if other NFL cities were all that captivated
- 7:32Speaker 4: by it. But I thought it was just beautifully crafted
- 7:35Speaker 4: from beginning to end. The producers did a tremendous job
- 7:40Speaker 4: capturing the Pacific Northwest, capturing the Renton facility.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Capturing Dino's.
- 7:48Speaker 4: Dino's. Poor John's secret is ruined. Not that it was
- 7:52Speaker 4: all that secret.
- 7:53Speaker 2: No, but everyone's going to go to Dino's now.
- 7:55Speaker 4: Of course, because they know he hangs out there all
- 7:57Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we've made references to
- 7:59Speaker 4: it on the airwaves. I've heard Ian joke about it,
- 8:02Speaker 4: Softie joke about it, but I think people thought we
- 8:04Speaker 4: were kidding.
- 8:04Speaker 2: I think so.
- 8:05Speaker 4: And now they know that he's there a lot.
- 8:08Speaker 5: Yes.
- 8:09Speaker 4: And putting together Seahawks strategies right there in the middle
- 8:12Speaker 4: of the restaurant, right over a bowl of tots. He's
- 8:16Speaker 4: sitting there at Dino's pub. So, yeah, that was a
- 8:20Speaker 4: part of it. But I just I think that it's
- 8:22Speaker 4: just it was just really beautifully done from beginning to
- 8:28Speaker 4: end and not over the top at all. And then
- 8:32Speaker 4: sort of the subtle way that it ended. Um, the
- 8:36Speaker 4: episode last night to wrap up the season. I mean,
- 8:39Speaker 4: it was just great. It really was. It was great.
- 8:43Speaker 4: Well done HBO. And, and that's something I think that
- 8:47Speaker 4: a Seahawk fan is going to treasure for the rest
- 8:48Speaker 4: of your life. You get the, you know, the DVDs
- 8:51Speaker 4: or whatever, whatever people still play today. I would imagine
- 8:54Speaker 4: you want that as a Seahawk fan, as something that
- 8:57Speaker 4: you can reference 10 years from now, 20 years from now.
- 9:01Speaker 4: To remind you of this magical period in this franchise's
- 9:05Speaker 4: history and the guy who really is at the center
- 9:09Speaker 4: of that magic. Because, Ashley, they made it very clear,
- 9:13Speaker 4: the producers of Hard Knocks at HBO, how incredibly impressed
- 9:19Speaker 4: they were in our head coach. Because that was the
- 9:22Speaker 4: bow that they tied on the entire show. season was
- 9:27Speaker 4: my gosh, do they have a good one in Seattle?
- 9:30Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:31Speaker 8: And the whole thing, I mean, and just pointing out
- 9:33Speaker 8: the list, subtle differences in our organization that make it,
- 9:37Speaker 8: you know, about the culture and, and make have made
- 9:40Speaker 8: us successful. Just even going with the, we are a
- 9:42Speaker 8: team of 70. It is not a 53 man roster
- 9:45Speaker 8: and a practice squad. It is a team of 70
- 9:48Speaker 8: with a ready squad. I mean, just those little things
- 9:50Speaker 8: that make the make, the people want to be there.
- 9:54Speaker 8: You see why players wanted to be here. You see
- 9:56Speaker 8: why Derek Hall did not go out and wait, to
- 10:00Speaker 8: see what the biggest contract he could get was he
- 10:02Speaker 8: said no I want to stay here And I found
- 10:05Speaker 8: myself sad it was over. I mean, I've really enjoyed
- 10:08Speaker 8: getting to see– getting to learn more about the players
- 10:10Speaker 8: that we all already love. And then, yeah, just with
- 10:14Speaker 8: Mike McDonald because he has been kind of a mystery
- 10:16Speaker 8: to a lot of us. And so getting to see
- 10:18Speaker 8: that he is tough but so kind and, you know, is–
- 10:24Speaker 8: Just the.
- 10:25Speaker 4: Way that he described to his coaches, like– Hey, I
- 10:28Speaker 4: want you to make sure that you deliver.
- 10:31Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 10:31Speaker 4: And again, I haven't been watching it a lot in
- 10:33Speaker 4: recent years, and maybe there's been a complete different change
- 10:38Speaker 4: in the way that all coaches and organizations and general
- 10:42Speaker 4: managers treat the 70-man roster versus the 53. Yeah. But
- 10:46Speaker 4: the most intriguing part of that show... Because you always
- 10:52Speaker 4: have to have happy moments and sad moments in order
- 10:56Speaker 4: to feel like you had a true emotional experience, whether
- 10:59Speaker 4: you've invested in a TV show or a movie or
- 11:02Speaker 4: a documentary or in life. I mean, you've got to
- 11:05Speaker 4: have those sad moments to truly appreciate the good moments.
- 11:08Speaker 4: And really the center of that show when it started
- 11:11Speaker 4: was the journeys that the fringe players went on to
- 11:17Speaker 4: either make the team or not make the team. And
- 11:20Speaker 4: so it was all about the Turk. And it was
- 11:22Speaker 4: all about seeing whether or not that guy was going
- 11:25Speaker 4: to get his Paula Abdul, you know, golden ticket to Hollywood.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Or if he was in the group that was told
- 11:31Speaker 4: by Randy, you know, you're not going to make it, dog.
- 11:34Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:35Speaker 4: That's kind of what the show was. And now I've
- 11:39Speaker 4: never heard it kind of put that way.
- 11:42Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
- 11:42Speaker 4: Like you said, and it started with that meeting with
- 11:45Speaker 4: the coaches, with them telling them, hey, you make sure
- 11:50Speaker 4: you deliver the message to them that whether they're on
- 11:53Speaker 4: the 53 or the 70, that this is about their development,
- 11:57Speaker 4: and we are not going to stop developing them as players.
- 12:01Speaker 4: It's going to be a great thing. How many players
- 12:03Speaker 4: went in there excited to be on the 70? Yep.
- 12:07Speaker 4: And not just the 53. He had one guy that
- 12:10Speaker 4: was like, I kind of wanted to be on the 53.
- 12:12Speaker 4: Everybody else was over the moon because he sold that
- 12:14Speaker 4: message from the beginning of camp, and he delivered that
- 12:17Speaker 4: message throughout camp, and there is a reason why Hard
- 12:20Speaker 4: Knocks showed so many exchanges between players. our coach, our
- 12:26Speaker 4: head coach, and the players that were coming. Because there
- 12:28Speaker 4: were a lot of them.
- 12:29Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 12:30Speaker 4: Usually you show like one or two, maybe three. There
- 12:33Speaker 4: were like eight? That came into his office.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot.
- 12:38Speaker 4: And I think they were trying to show you, like,
- 12:40Speaker 4: this guy doesn't miss a beat. He's not just on record.
- 12:44Speaker 4: He doesn't just deliver the same message to every single player.
- 12:47Speaker 4: There is a unique relationship that he has with every
- 12:50Speaker 4: single one of those guys that are coming into his room.
- 12:52Speaker 4: And he is making them feel good about being on
- 12:54Speaker 4: the 70 and being a part of the family.
- 12:57Speaker 3: I mean.
- 12:58Speaker 4: He's a superstar. He's a superstar. And HBO went out
- 13:03Speaker 4: of its way to tell us that they feel the
- 13:06Speaker 4: exact same way about him. Yeah, it was.
- 13:08Speaker 2: I mean, he is an impressive person. And we've talked
- 13:11Speaker 2: about it this whole season.
- 13:12Speaker 8: The way that he can be firm with guys when
- 13:14Speaker 8: they've kind of screwed up a bit and make sure
- 13:17Speaker 8: that they know they've screwed up, but also make sure
- 13:19Speaker 8: that he's not changed the way he feels about them.
- 13:23Speaker 2: That's a tough thing to do. And he handles it
- 13:27Speaker 2: so well.
- 13:27Speaker 10: And it was.
- 13:28Speaker 8: I thought the line that sticks out to me last
- 13:30Speaker 8: night when he was talking to all the coaches, when
- 13:31Speaker 8: he was like, and we got to make sure that
- 13:33Speaker 8: we're loving, what was it, that we're loving up on
- 13:35Speaker 8: them or that we're, loving on them, something like, I
- 13:39Speaker 8: just thought that was so, so cute, like so sweet,
- 13:41Speaker 8: you know, because these guys are out there giving everything
- 13:45Speaker 8: they've got, trying to make their dreams come true. And
- 13:48Speaker 8: that shouldn't be overlooked by the fact that they do
- 13:51Speaker 8: or don't make a team or they do or don't
- 13:53Speaker 8: make a 53 man roster. And no matter what they've done, they've,
- 13:57Speaker 8: they've come out and given their heart and soul for
- 14:00Speaker 8: the last month and a half to this team.
- 14:02Speaker 4: Something that often gets overlooked. Even I, at this point,
- 14:05Speaker 4: and I watch sports as a fan. I watch it
- 14:09Speaker 4: as a professional. I watch too much of it. I
- 14:15Speaker 4: wonder when I'm 75 years old if I'm going to
- 14:18Speaker 4: look back and say I threw my life away watching
- 14:20Speaker 4: too many sports. I don't know. I don't know how
- 14:22Speaker 4: I'm going to feel about how much I watch. But
- 14:27Speaker 4: one thing that we often overlook, because I still catch
- 14:31Speaker 4: myself watching believe it or not, and I don't know
- 14:33Speaker 4: if anybody else is guilty of it, thinking I'm the
- 14:35Speaker 4: age of the players.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:37Speaker 3: I do.
- 14:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. And I have to remind myself, oh
- 14:40Speaker 4: my gosh, I could be this guy's dad. In some cases,
- 14:42Speaker 4: I could be this guy's granddad. And I have to
- 14:47Speaker 4: pull myself. It's a completely different generation of players. I mean,
- 14:53Speaker 4: and I think that, yeah, they probably did get coddled,
- 14:55Speaker 4: but whatever it is, compared to the way I was raised,
- 15:02Speaker 4: The head coach, who's a generation older in most cases,
- 15:07Speaker 4: in our case, a half, has to be able to
- 15:11Speaker 4: relate to that group. And I'm not saying be their friend.
- 15:17Speaker 4: I'm saying how to get the most out of them.
- 15:20Speaker 4: And they have to be aware of what their parents did,
- 15:24Speaker 4: how their parents raised them, how an entire American generation
- 15:29Speaker 4: decided to raise their children. And I think Mike McDonald's
- 15:33Speaker 4: got it down cold. I mean, I got a promo
- 15:37Speaker 4: of a prominent baseball analyst on our radio station right
- 15:41Speaker 4: now on another show comparing our manager of our baseball
- 15:47Speaker 4: team to a house plant.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Yeah, Ficus.
- 15:51Speaker 4: As critical as I've been of Dan Wilson, boy, that
- 15:54Speaker 4: one takes the cake right there. And yet, compare him
- 16:00Speaker 4: to what HBO exposed to us as Seahawk fans about
- 16:05Speaker 4: our young head coach, Super Bowl champion coach, who hopefully
- 16:12Speaker 4: will be here for the rest of his career. I mean,
- 16:15Speaker 4: it is night and flippin' day. And credit, I mean,
- 16:21Speaker 4: I already felt he was the most important figure in
- 16:24Speaker 4: all of this. As great a job as John's done,
- 16:26Speaker 4: and John's been constantly killing it for three years. He's
- 16:29Speaker 4: an A-plus general manager. I still think this best thing
- 16:32Speaker 4: that he did in the last three years was hire
- 16:34Speaker 4: Mike McDonald, and I hate to say it, but I
- 16:37Speaker 4: think Mike McDonald's more important to this team than John
- 16:41Speaker 4: Schneider is and its future, and I certainly, in watching
- 16:46Speaker 4: Hard Knocks this year, don't feel any differently. If anything,
- 16:49Speaker 4: that opinion has been bolstered five-fold because what I watched
- 16:54Speaker 4: and what clearly HBO saw... Mm-hmm. Out of Mike McDonald,
- 16:59Speaker 4: they made it very clear as they were wrapping up
- 17:01Speaker 4: that show last night that the true superstar in this
- 17:05Speaker 4: organization is its young head coach. And message received.
- 17:10Speaker 8: Yeah, and you can see the players' respect for him.
- 17:12Speaker 8: I mean, take, for example, that Nicky Manwari conversation. He
- 17:15Speaker 8: didn't go in there just to shoot the, you know what,
- 17:17Speaker 8: with his buddy.
- 17:18Speaker 4: What, Ashley? Shoot the what?
- 17:20Speaker 5: Breeze?
- 17:21Speaker 4: Breeze.
- 17:23Speaker 2: With his buddy, right?
- 17:24Speaker 8: He went in there because he was having kind of
- 17:26Speaker 8: a hard time dealing with something and knew his head coach,
- 17:29Speaker 8: who he respects very much, could kind of walk him
- 17:32Speaker 8: through how he should be handling it or could be
- 17:35Speaker 8: handling it. And he was like, hey, you don't have
- 17:37Speaker 8: to answer to anybody. You've got, you know, this is
- 17:40Speaker 8: your timeline, your recovery, your injury. But it wasn't like
- 17:45Speaker 8: the balance of the conversation didn't seem like, like, you know,
- 17:50Speaker 8: authority figure and person you know he's in charge of
- 17:54Speaker 8: it was a mutual respect from both sides while one
- 18:00Speaker 8: side is still clearly the authority i don't know yes
- 18:03Speaker 8: he balances it so well yes you.
- 18:05Speaker 4: Are the boss first and foremost yeah but if you
- 18:08Speaker 4: can have a relationship that borders on friends yeah if
- 18:13Speaker 4: if you're my boss and i also think you're a
- 18:15Speaker 4: friend which means you do have my best interest at
- 18:18Speaker 4: heart And not just your best interest at heart. Yeah, exactly.
- 18:23Speaker 4: I mean, where I think Dan Wilson has every player's
- 18:28Speaker 4: best interest at heart, but he does not come across
- 18:32Speaker 4: as a boss. He's just one of their friends.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just one of the guys.
- 18:35Speaker 4: And that's why he doesn't get the same maximum output
- 18:40Speaker 4: from his group that Mike McDonald has gotten from his
- 18:43Speaker 4: in a really short period of time. Those guys love
- 18:46Speaker 4: Mike McDonald, but those guys, make no mistake about it,
- 18:50Speaker 4: know that when they clock in, it is time to
- 18:52Speaker 4: go to work. And that is the difference, and it
- 18:57Speaker 4: makes every difference.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. It's incredible to watch. As I said, I'm
- 19:01Speaker 2: sad it's over. Sad it's over.
- 19:04Speaker 4: I am excited, though, to get the season started. I've
- 19:06Speaker 4: had enough preseason talk, so let's go.
- 19:08Speaker 8: I'd just be kind of fine if they wanted to
- 19:10Speaker 8: just show us the background of the team all year long.
- 19:14Speaker 4: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
- 19:16Speaker 4: rest of the show.
- 19:17Speaker 3: May I have your attention, please?
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- 19:35Speaker 4: We are one week from the start of the National
- 19:38Speaker 4: Football League season and of course the World Cup. The
- 19:41Speaker 4: World Champions get to start that season. It'll be next Wednesday.
- 19:45Speaker 4: Seahawks versus Patriots. A Super Bowl rematch. Greg Bell will
- 19:49Speaker 4: join us today at 7.05 to discuss it. We are
- 19:52Speaker 4: just a few days away from the Apple Cup. That's right.
- 19:55Speaker 4: It's on a Sunday this year. It's starting the season.
- 19:59Speaker 4: Dogs versus Cougs. And we really do start ramping up
- 20:03Speaker 4: our coverage today. As part of our fall lineup this year,
- 20:07Speaker 4: back for another season is the color analyst of the
- 20:10Speaker 4: Washington Huskies broadcast, former Washington Husky tight end, the great,
- 20:16Speaker 4: the lovable Cam Cleland is back with us this year.
- 20:19Speaker 4: But he'll be at 9 o'clock this year, not 8
- 20:21Speaker 4: o'clock as he's been in the past. So Cam joins
- 20:24Speaker 4: us for the first official time of the football season
- 20:26Speaker 4: today at 9. And of course, we'll ask him about
- 20:29Speaker 4: breaking in his brand new partner. On Sunday, Elyse Woodward
- 20:33Speaker 4: will make history when she calls her first game as
- 20:36Speaker 4: the official voice of the Dogs on Sunday. Other college
- 20:40Speaker 4: football news, the SEC has doubled down. They are not
- 20:43Speaker 4: going to cave on pros coming back to college football,
- 20:48Speaker 4: no matter how much Lane Kiffin throws a fit. I
- 20:52Speaker 4: was actually surprised. Coach Neuheisel kind of took Lane Kiffin's
- 20:55Speaker 4: side yesterday.
- 20:56Speaker 2: I was very surprised.
- 20:57Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:58Speaker 4: And so I don't know. Maybe we're looking at it
- 21:01Speaker 4: the wrong way, but it's not going to change my
- 21:03Speaker 4: opinion of Lane Kiffin. I hope he loses spectacularly. to
- 21:07Speaker 4: the SEC and every opponent he faces this year. We
- 21:10Speaker 4: will also have a college football season preview as only
- 21:13Speaker 4: we do it here in the mornings. Once called the
- 21:16Speaker 4: Green Jacket Draft, now it reverts to its old form,
- 21:21Speaker 4: the Showdown, today at 8 o'clock to preview the college
- 21:24Speaker 4: football season. The U.S. Open continues early upsets in the U.S.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Open.
- 21:29Speaker 4: I mean early upsets plus early near upsets as well
- 21:33Speaker 4: as the No. 1 seed on the men's side was
- 21:35Speaker 4: almost knocked out last night. That would have been crazy
- 21:39Speaker 4: considering that Djokovic has already been eliminated as the four
- 21:43Speaker 4: seed overall. Stan Kroenke bought the Angels yesterday for $ 4
- 21:48Speaker 4: billion and already has Mariner fans worried that we now
- 21:52Speaker 4: have the worst ownership in the American League West, if
- 21:56Speaker 4: not the American League. And so we'll talk about that
- 22:01Speaker 4: a little bit later on in the show. But a
- 22:02Speaker 4: primary topic on today's show is Mariners won last night
- 22:06Speaker 4: 9-6 over the Red Sox. They breathed hope back into
- 22:11Speaker 4: a few because both the Rangers and the Astros lost again.
- 22:14Speaker 4: So you're five games back. You've actually scored 17 runs
- 22:18Speaker 4: in the last two games, which is like a bucket
- 22:22Speaker 4: of water to a.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Thirsty horse to a.
- 22:27Speaker 4: Yeah to a thirsty horse yes that's a good way
- 22:29Speaker 4: to put it um but certainly the star of the
- 22:33Speaker 4: show last night was laz montez who made his debut
- 22:38Speaker 4: in phenomenal fashion uh for the mariners we'll discuss it
- 22:42Speaker 4: all with mariners morning after next sports radio 93.3 kjrfm
- 22:55Speaker 4: Fly ball. Sailing back to the monster. Second straight night
- 23:01Speaker 4: with a monster shot for Randy Rosarena.
- 23:05Speaker 1: And the Mariners blow it open in the second inning
- 23:08Speaker 1: thanks to a.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Three-run home run. Hey, great Wednesday morning. Happy hump day
- 23:23Speaker 4: to you all as we roll into our number two
- 23:25Speaker 4: here on this Wednesday. Ashley Ryan is here. My name
- 23:28Speaker 4: is Chuck Powell. Great to have you with us coming
- 23:30Speaker 4: up here in a matter of moments. Greg Bell for
- 23:32Speaker 4: the latest on the Seahawks. We'll see if he had
- 23:34Speaker 4: the same response Ashley and I did to the Hard
- 23:37Speaker 4: Knocks finale last night. Also, we'll get the latest gritty
- 23:41Speaker 4: details of your Seahawks coming up here at 7.05. Also,
- 23:45Speaker 4: Cam Cleland will be joining us for the first official
- 23:47Speaker 4: time of this football season today. to talk some Huskies football,
- 23:51Speaker 4: to talk some Apple Cup. That'll be at 9 o'clock today.
- 23:55Speaker 4: But we begin our hour with our headlines brought to
- 23:57Speaker 4: you by Frostbrood Coors Light. Choose chill. Mariners TV with
- 24:02Speaker 4: the call. Randy, a Rose Arena stays hot, but the
- 24:04Speaker 4: real story last night was the debut of the very,
- 24:09Speaker 4: very gregarious Laz Montez last night. The rookie power hitter
- 24:14Speaker 4: was called up by the organization as part of their
- 24:17Speaker 4: two September call-ups last And let me tell you something.
- 24:21Speaker 4: Hobie Miller knocked it out of the park last night.
- 24:25Speaker 2: He was exactly what everyone hoped he would.
- 24:27Speaker 5: Right.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Hobied he would be.
- 24:29Speaker 1: Right.
- 24:29Speaker 4: And there must have been cold there in that shadow, Laz.
- 24:35Speaker 4: A flower emerged. Laz Montez had an RBI single last night.
- 24:39Speaker 4: He had a walk. He had a home run. And
- 24:41Speaker 4: the camera loved him.
- 24:43Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 24:43Speaker 4: They could not take their eyes off of Laz Montez.
- 24:47Speaker 4: His personality is infectious. Kind of knew that about him.
- 24:51Speaker 4: Got a 75 grade on his personality on his 40
- 24:54Speaker 4: to 80 scouting report. So Laz Montez certainly put on
- 24:59Speaker 4: a show in his debut tonight. single, RBI single, a
- 25:02Speaker 4: walk and a home run, a long home run to
- 25:05Speaker 4: dead center field, which is not an easy place to
- 25:08Speaker 4: reach at Fenway Park. And so he was fantastic in
- 25:12Speaker 4: a 9-6 Mariners win last night.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Yes, he was.
- 25:15Speaker 4: It was fun.
- 25:15Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch it again. Let's do it.
- 25:17Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something. The Astros lost yesterday, so the Mariners
- 25:22Speaker 4: do gain a game. Five back at this point. The
- 25:24Speaker 4: Texas Rangers did win yesterday. Sorry, I said they lost
- 25:28Speaker 4: at 6 o'clock today. I've corrected it twice since. Get
- 25:32Speaker 4: off my back. Yeah, come on, people. Tonight, or today,
- 25:35Speaker 4: I should say, 110 first pitch. Bryce Miller will start
- 25:39Speaker 4: for us. Patrick Sandoval, left-hander, will start for the Red Sox.
- 25:42Speaker 4: Both struggling pitchers right now, so we might get a
- 25:46Speaker 4: third consecutive high-scoring game in Boston. Now, elsewhere in the
- 25:52Speaker 4: sports world, Stan Kroenke bought the Angels yesterday, something that
- 25:56Speaker 4: we'll discuss a little bit later on in the show.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Artie Moreno finally has given up the Angels after doing
- 26:04Speaker 4: a horrible job with them, frankly, for the last decade.
- 26:08Speaker 4: College football, Apple Cup is on Sunday. That's right. The
- 26:12Speaker 4: Apple Cup will start the season, and it will be
- 26:15Speaker 4: on a Sunday at 1 o'clock. So we're just a
- 26:18Speaker 4: few days away from that. And we are one week
- 26:21Speaker 4: exactly away from the Seahawks opener, the defense of their
- 26:26Speaker 4: Super Bowl championship. and against the team that they beat
- 26:29Speaker 4: for the championship, the New England Patriots. Joining us now
- 26:33Speaker 4: to discuss it, our Seahawks insider, Greg Bell.
- 26:36Speaker 1: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
- 26:40Speaker 1: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit
- 26:43Speaker 1: with our own Greg Bell. Brought to you by Emerald
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- 27:02Speaker 6: Morning, Greg.
- 27:02Speaker 7: Good morning.
- 27:05Speaker 4: All right. Well, hard knocks now in the books. An
- 27:08Speaker 4: actual game one week away from today. So, yes, let's
- 27:12Speaker 4: get ready for a football season. What was your big
- 27:16Speaker 4: takeaway from the hard knock season coming to a close
- 27:20Speaker 4: last night?
- 27:21Speaker 7: I thought it was interesting that Carl Scott, the defensive
- 27:27Speaker 7: backs coach, went back to the Alabama position drills practice
- 27:33Speaker 7: film for Trayvon Diggs to fire him up and get
- 27:36Speaker 7: him back into here's where you were in Alabama. That's
- 27:41Speaker 7: confidence building and that's putting a guy, making him comfortable
- 27:45Speaker 7: and something familiar back to where Diggs, where it all
- 27:49Speaker 7: started for him. And I thought it was interesting that
- 27:51Speaker 7: in the first week with the Seahawks that Scott did that.
- 27:55Speaker 7: And that's an interesting coaching and leadership move and, Part
- 27:59Speaker 7: of the reason that Trevon Diggs signed back with the
- 28:02Speaker 7: Seahawks instead of trying to go shop somewhere else to
- 28:04Speaker 7: find a job somewhere, signed back to the Seahawks as
- 28:07Speaker 7: a practice squad player, in fact. I thought that was
- 28:11Speaker 7: an interesting extent for them to go to.
- 28:14Speaker 10: It's just interesting to see an NFL coach, and that's
- 28:21Speaker 10: something a college coach might do with a high school
- 28:23Speaker 10: kid or do this high school film, but It's interesting
- 28:27Speaker 10: to see the extent that Carl Scott was going to
- 28:29Speaker 10: make Teron Diggs feel at home, and it paid off
- 28:32Speaker 10: so far anyway.
- 28:33Speaker 4: Very, very interesting thing to have pulled. Yeah, I did
- 28:36Speaker 4: like that exchange. I did find that interesting myself. Of course,
- 28:41Speaker 4: HBO and something that we've talked about. Really did wrap
- 28:44Speaker 4: the bow on this thing by pointing out what a
- 28:46Speaker 4: gem we have as a head coach. I mean, that
- 28:48Speaker 4: was pretty much the story of the Hard Knocks season
- 28:51Speaker 4: was how impressed Hard Knocks was with Mike McDonald. I mean,
- 28:56Speaker 4: that's my takeaway from the entire season. And I'm sitting
- 29:00Speaker 4: here thinking, I'm like, look, the word is out. I mean,
- 29:04Speaker 4: everybody's seen his defensive genius, and I'm sure the league
- 29:09Speaker 4: was already aware of the leadership skills. He's already won
- 29:14Speaker 4: a Super Bowl championship. Greg, right now, the highest paid
- 29:18Speaker 4: NFL head coach makes $ 20 million. I mean, we have
- 29:21Speaker 4: brand new ownership. I mean, is there any thought that
- 29:24Speaker 4: Coastal has come in here and say $ 40 million a year,
- 29:29Speaker 4: but you got to sign a lifetime contract? I mean,
- 29:32Speaker 4: to try to keep Mike McDonald here in the fold,
- 29:35Speaker 4: because I don't know if I ever want this organization
- 29:39Speaker 4: to be in a position where they get in a
- 29:40Speaker 4: bidding war uh with other NFL franchises I mean how
- 29:44Speaker 4: high on the priority list when will it occur that
- 29:47Speaker 4: Koslas and John Schneider will make sure that John that
- 29:51Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's happy and stays here long term.
- 29:55Speaker 5: Well Two things.
- 29:57Speaker 7: One, it's a little funny for me that everyone say, wow,
- 30:01Speaker 7: this Mike McDonald and his leadership, this has been going
- 30:05Speaker 7: on for three years. I've seen it every day. And
- 30:08Speaker 7: we've been talking about his leadership as being unique and
- 30:11Speaker 7: his methods as being something I hadn't seen in the
- 30:14Speaker 7: NFL and how he's brought a West Point Army officer
- 30:18Speaker 7: ethos to some of the things he does. And he's
- 30:20Speaker 7: always his personal touch and the empathy and vulnerability. And
- 30:24Speaker 7: now the whole The whole world, the whole football-watching nation
- 30:28Speaker 7: sees it, and it's suddenly like, holy cow.
- 30:31Speaker 4: Well, there is a difference, Greg. I mean, yeah, you
- 30:33Speaker 4: have been talking about this, but until you actually see it,
- 30:36Speaker 4: I mean, it's one thing to hear about it and
- 30:38Speaker 4: then to put your eyeballs on it.
- 30:40Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been seeing it, but not everyone gets to
- 30:43Speaker 7: be where I am every day, so they haven't seen it.
- 30:45Speaker 7: And now there's a revelation that, oh, the Seahawks know this,
- 30:48Speaker 7: John Schneider knows this.
- 30:50Speaker 5: The new owners.
- 30:51Speaker 7: Don't know this, and they don't know him. I don't
- 30:55Speaker 7: think the first priority for them is to come into
- 30:57Speaker 7: the organization and just re-up the coach for a lifetime
- 31:01Speaker 7: contract because they have to establish a relationship and know
- 31:04Speaker 7: how he operates. They'll find out quickly, but they aren't
- 31:07Speaker 7: even there. They're not even in the building yet because
- 31:10Speaker 7: the transaction hasn't cleared. I have brought this up and
- 31:13Speaker 7: talked to people about the McDonald contract and whether they
- 31:17Speaker 7: would redo it, just extend them. I don't think it's
- 31:21Speaker 7: out of the question. In the NFL, nothing lasts forever,
- 31:25Speaker 7: and even when Pete Carroll looked like he'd be here forever,
- 31:28Speaker 7: he wasn't here forever. So I don't know how large
- 31:31Speaker 7: or deep an extent they would go for this, but
- 31:34Speaker 7: suffice to say, he's so far outperformed his contract, and
- 31:38Speaker 7: it's a five-year deal. They like to, though I won't
- 31:42Speaker 7: say they, because they has just changed. Under the Allen stewardship,
- 31:47Speaker 7: they like to have Snyder and the coach on concurrent contracts.
- 31:52Speaker 7: that would end around the same time and then re-up
- 31:54Speaker 7: them for about the same time. That's why McDonald got
- 31:57Speaker 7: a five-year deal in line with the GM. Would the
- 32:01Speaker 7: Kozlows like to do the same thing? Would they change it?
- 32:04Speaker 7: It has created a lockstep relationship between the coach and
- 32:07Speaker 7: GM to do it the way the Seahawks under the
- 32:09Speaker 7: Islands did it. I don't know why they would change
- 32:14Speaker 7: that either, because that isn't broken in that relationship either.
- 32:18Speaker 7: So if you're talking about extending, it's a long way
- 32:20Speaker 7: of saying, if you're talking about extending Mike McDonald, you're
- 32:22Speaker 7: probably talking about extending John Schneider at the same time.
- 32:27Speaker 7: Don't know that that's the first priority, but that's something
- 32:29Speaker 7: down the road I think they would look at doing
- 32:31Speaker 7: and how far they do it. You're right. There's no
- 32:34Speaker 7: salary cap for coaching GM salaries. The new owners can
- 32:37Speaker 7: pay them anything they want to.
- 32:38Speaker 4: Right. Exactly. I'm a little surprised that Whenever you talk
- 32:43Speaker 4: about an NFL team, everybody says you have to have
- 32:47Speaker 4: a good owner, get your coach, and get your quarterback.
- 32:51Speaker 4: Those are the three things that they tend to bring up.
- 32:55Speaker 4: And yet, a good head coach, the best head coach,
- 32:58Speaker 4: makes $ 20 million. I have a feeling that number, and
- 33:01Speaker 4: I know that I'm just sharing an opinion here, but
- 33:05Speaker 4: I'd like to get your reaction to it. I have
- 33:07Speaker 4: a feeling that number is going to skyrocket going forward
- 33:10Speaker 4: because to get one of the elite head coaches, to
- 33:13Speaker 4: get a McVeigh, to get a McDonald, not just one
- 33:16Speaker 4: of the elite ones, but a young one as well,
- 33:19Speaker 4: I have a feeling that that salary might double in
- 33:22Speaker 4: the next five, ten years.
- 33:27Speaker 6: Maybe.
- 33:28Speaker 7: It could because there is no cap and there's no ceiling.
- 33:32Speaker 7: So far, no one has done that, and there are
- 33:34Speaker 7: reasons for that. In McVeigh's case, McVeigh is somewhat in
- 33:38Speaker 7: lockstep with Les Snead in Los Angeles, and they have
- 33:41Speaker 7: a partnership there as well. My sense is that the
- 33:45Speaker 7: Kozels are going to see how the football operation works,
- 33:48Speaker 7: and they're going to try to do both at the
- 33:50Speaker 7: same time, Schneider and McDonald, and therefore it won't be
- 33:54Speaker 7: a $ 40 million a year contract. Because McDonald, face it,
- 33:58Speaker 7: McDonald is not like a Bill Belichick or even a
- 34:00Speaker 7: Pete Carroll personality inside his own building. He's in a
- 34:03Speaker 7: partnership as a first-time head coach. He's still in his 30s.
- 34:08Speaker 7: So while it's been wildly successful so far, it is still,
- 34:12Speaker 7: at least appears to be, dependent on the relationship he
- 34:16Speaker 7: has with John Schneider. So I would think it's a
- 34:18Speaker 7: two-for deal, and maybe the two of them would make
- 34:21Speaker 7: $ 40 million together. I don't see Mike McDonald lapping the
- 34:26Speaker 7: field and lapping his own GM at the risk of
- 34:31Speaker 7: changing that dynamic. You don't want a coach that makes
- 34:33Speaker 7: $ 40 million a year while a GM makes $ 5 million
- 34:36Speaker 7: or $ 6 million. And then I think you have the
- 34:38Speaker 7: accent on the wrong syllable there.
- 34:40Speaker 6: So I.
- 34:42Speaker 7: Think– I'm speaking out of turn because I don't know
- 34:45Speaker 7: how the Coles operate. In fact, they aren't even in
- 34:47Speaker 7: the building yet. But if they truly aren't going to
- 34:49Speaker 7: change the football operation, I think they're going to extend both,
- 34:53Speaker 7: keep both in the same realm, both in time frame
- 34:56Speaker 7: and money. But it has worked out swimmingly so far.
- 35:01Speaker 7: And I think a large part of that is the
- 35:02Speaker 7: relationship he has with John Schneider.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider. His segment
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- 35:10Speaker 4: All right, I'll just start asking about a few more
- 35:14Speaker 4: tangible things. For example, I'll throw this out as well.
- 35:18Speaker 4: It just seems like the offensive line has just kind
- 35:20Speaker 4: of flew completely under the radar this entire preseason. There
- 35:24Speaker 4: have been no mysteries seen. I mean, the same starting
- 35:27Speaker 4: five has been there. They haven't played in the preseason,
- 35:29Speaker 4: so we haven't exposed them to any low moments at
- 35:34Speaker 4: this stage. So does that tend to suggest that, man,
- 35:38Speaker 4: they feel really good about this group right now, or
- 35:44Speaker 4: is this just a suggestion that offensive lines that are
- 35:48Speaker 4: solid are boring, and that's why we haven't talked much
- 35:51Speaker 4: about them this year?
- 35:53Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, boring's a good thing in Seattle because for
- 35:56Speaker 7: 10 years they were the opposite of boring. So compare
- 36:00Speaker 7: this to this time last year. Remember, they had to
- 36:03Speaker 7: play the starting offensive line last year because Kubiak was
- 36:06Speaker 7: installing a system and John Bent was installing the outside zone. Remember,
- 36:10Speaker 7: they ran for like 150 yards in the first half
- 36:12Speaker 7: of that second preseason game against the Chiefs here in
- 36:14Speaker 7: Seattle last year. And they had to do all that
- 36:18Speaker 7: in the preseason to get ready for this. They didn't
- 36:20Speaker 7: have to do that this year. It's really rare. And
- 36:23Speaker 7: Brian Fleury talked about this when he took the job.
- 36:26Speaker 7: He understands how rare it is to walk into a
- 36:29Speaker 7: situation of taking over a Super Bowl champion offense when
- 36:32Speaker 7: the entire offensive line comes back. Usually Super Bowl champions,
- 36:36Speaker 7: guys are getting paid and they go seek their money elsewhere.
- 36:39Speaker 7: They're still young enough, the offensive line at their core,
- 36:43Speaker 7: and they've re-upped their bookend tackles that everyone came back.
- 36:47Speaker 7: And they are very happy with their offensive line. Having
- 36:51Speaker 7: said that, they aren't happy with the depth on the
- 36:54Speaker 7: offensive line, and they got manhandled by reserves on the
- 36:58Speaker 7: line of scrimmage pretty much in all three preseason games.
- 37:02Speaker 7: McDonough wanted them to run the ball, and they didn't
- 37:05Speaker 7: effectively run the ball hardly at all. You take out
- 37:07Speaker 7: the 69-yard touchdown that Jakartier Wright had in the second
- 37:10Speaker 7: preseason game at Tennessee. I had the number in my
- 37:13Speaker 7: story at the Kansas City game after postgame. It was
- 37:18Speaker 7: something like 2.7, 2.8 yards per carry for the preseason.
- 37:23Speaker 5: That's terrible.
- 37:24Speaker 7: That's back to where they were two years ago in
- 37:27Speaker 7: offense and running the ball. So the depth is a concern,
- 37:31Speaker 7: and they don't go through all just five guys in
- 37:34Speaker 7: the season.
- 37:34Speaker 5: They don't.
- 37:35Speaker 7: No NFL team does. So that's a concern. They think
- 37:38Speaker 7: they have a swing tackle in Josh Jones, a proven
- 37:40Speaker 7: veteran who did well for them when he had to
- 37:43Speaker 7: start at the end of last season because of a
- 37:44Speaker 7: couple injuries. But after that, eh. They don't have a
- 37:48Speaker 7: swing guard they can trust. They've tried Christian Haynes. I
- 37:51Speaker 7: thought they were trying to trade Christian Haynes, but I
- 37:53Speaker 7: don't know he had any trade value. They like Sundell,
- 37:57Speaker 7: although he's not quite as strong as some centers and
- 38:00Speaker 7: as big as some centers. He's cerebral and traffic cop
- 38:03Speaker 7: and makes all the right calls. They love their bookend tackles.
- 38:07Speaker 7: Anthony Bradford's in the last year of his contract, and
- 38:09Speaker 7: no matter what the public thinks of Anthony Bradford, the
- 38:11Speaker 7: coaches and the people in the building really love his
- 38:15Speaker 7: improvement the last couple of years. especially in pass protection
- 38:19Speaker 7: the fact no one's talking about him is a plus
- 38:21Speaker 7: for seattle compared to what it's been for 10 years for.
- 38:23Speaker 4: Sure for sure greg bell is uh with us you
- 38:25Speaker 4: won't follow him at g bell seattle on x and
- 38:28Speaker 4: of course the news tribune uh.com you know i've covered
- 38:33Speaker 4: the sports i've covered football for a long time there's
- 38:36Speaker 4: about 10 years i took off from doing sports talk
- 38:38Speaker 4: radio but It's always been about the 53, the 53.
- 38:41Speaker 4: I mean, how many conversations I've had with Ian Furness
- 38:45Speaker 4: and Curtis Crabtree about the 53 in the last couple
- 38:48Speaker 4: of spots. And then last night on Hard Knocks, such
- 38:51Speaker 4: an emphasis about the 70, all 70. Like it's not
- 38:56Speaker 4: the 53, it's the 70. Is that something new or
- 39:02Speaker 4: does that sort of emphasis happen league-wide? Because I remember
- 39:06Speaker 4: stories about the Turk and seeing the Turk and you
- 39:09Speaker 4: didn't make the 53 and that was a crushing blow.
- 39:12Speaker 4: Is this something new that John and Mike do differently
- 39:16Speaker 4: than everyone else or is this something league-wide that has
- 39:19Speaker 4: changed over the years and just flown.
- 39:22Speaker 5: Under the radar?
- 39:23Speaker 7: It is an emphasis that the Seahawks do more than
- 39:26Speaker 7: most teams I've been around. Also, the practice squad rules
- 39:29Speaker 7: have changed in the last few years to make the
- 39:32Speaker 7: practice squad more relevant. It used to be when you
- 39:35Speaker 7: could barely call up dudes from the practice squad or
- 39:37Speaker 7: you had to cut somebody from your roster to get
- 39:39Speaker 7: up somebody from the practice squad. They truly were a
- 39:42Speaker 7: taxi squad that were just there and reserved. Because the
- 39:46Speaker 7: rules have changed and now you can bring practice squad
- 39:48Speaker 7: players up to three different times, three different games, to
- 39:52Speaker 7: activate them and then send them back down without having
- 39:54Speaker 7: to do any roster mechanisms. Because you can do that
- 39:57Speaker 7: and because they've expanded the practice squad from about 10
- 40:00Speaker 7: or a dozen players to 16, or in the Seahawks'
- 40:03Speaker 7: case because of the international exemption, 17, it has changed everything.
- 40:07Speaker 7: Because you can now put six, used to be it
- 40:10Speaker 7: was only first or second year guys on the practice squad.
- 40:12Speaker 7: Now you can have vested veterans of unlimited service time,
- 40:16Speaker 7: like a Trevon Diggs. So in the last four or
- 40:19Speaker 7: five years, the rules have completely changed. So the practice
- 40:22Speaker 7: squad has become an extension of the team, and the
- 40:25Speaker 7: Seahawks have really gotten behind that. I think the one
- 40:28Speaker 7: takeaway for the league, and everybody in the league watches it,
- 40:31Speaker 7: and personnel people watch it, and the players watch it,
- 40:34Speaker 7: but the one big takeaway from the Seahawks' hard knocks,
- 40:36Speaker 7: especially last night's episode, is maybe we should rethink how
- 40:40Speaker 7: we do the cuts. Because the Seahawks do do it differently. Now,
- 40:44Speaker 7: what they didn't show last night, my son and I
- 40:47Speaker 7: were talking about this, there were 91 players on the
- 40:51Speaker 7: preseason roster, right? Only 70, if you count the practice squad,
- 40:55Speaker 7: made it. They didn't show the 21 other dudes who
- 40:58Speaker 7: are cut and gone and weren't getting the, hey, you're
- 41:00Speaker 7: coming right back, you know what we're doing here, just
- 41:02Speaker 7: hang out for a day and we'll come bring you back.
- 41:04Speaker 7: 21 dudes didn't get that call. 21 dudes are watching
- 41:07Speaker 7: Hard Knocks going, that wasn't my experience. They threw my
- 41:11Speaker 7: ass out on the street. They don't think quite as
- 41:13Speaker 7: warmly about the Seahawks 70 as the 70 do. So
- 41:17Speaker 7: it cuts both ways, and Hard Knocks didn't choose to
- 41:21Speaker 7: show that. But it's true that in previous seasons and episodes,
- 41:25Speaker 7: they would show the pink slips and a guy having
- 41:27Speaker 7: to turn his playbook in. And even last night, John
- 41:30Speaker 7: Schneider said, it's not like we're telling you to go
- 41:31Speaker 7: turn your playbook into A.D., to one of the players
- 41:34Speaker 7: on defense and dirty, the defensive coordinator that has been
- 41:38Speaker 7: in previous seasons, the big drama of the final episode
- 41:42Speaker 7: of turning your playbook in and need famously of the jets,
- 41:44Speaker 7: the guy locked out of the front door to the facility.
- 41:48Speaker 7: There wasn't any of that. And I think there might
- 41:51Speaker 7: be some nuance to how teams view their cuts when
- 41:54Speaker 7: they watch how the Seahawks do it, because the 70
- 41:58Speaker 7: is real to them. And because last year, I think
- 42:00Speaker 7: a ladder we're in the top three in the league and,
- 42:03Speaker 7: practice squad transactions and elevations and re-signings when you do
- 42:08Speaker 7: that then 70 becomes if you just say it and
- 42:10Speaker 7: then those guys never play then it doesn't matter but
- 42:13Speaker 7: vellus jones jr for instance who's back on the practice
- 42:15Speaker 7: squad to start this season was elevated from the practice
- 42:18Speaker 7: squad for the super bowl so yeah they actually back
- 42:23Speaker 7: it up and and they do use 70 players throughout
- 42:26Speaker 7: a season and we all know because of injuries that's
- 42:28Speaker 7: going to happen again this year i.
- 42:30Speaker 4: Hope john understands that his days at Dino's Pub are
- 42:33Speaker 4: probably ruined. His meetings at Dino's.
- 42:37Speaker 7: Those local people know it already, though. I mean, now
- 42:40Speaker 7: the nation knows. But, yeah, he's been a fixture there
- 42:42Speaker 7: since his GM tenure started. He's got his own bench.
- 42:45Speaker 7: He's got his own stool. They eagerly await him coming over. Yeah,
- 42:50Speaker 7: the staff and the people there. There are a lot
- 42:52Speaker 7: of people I know and even some writers who hang
- 42:55Speaker 7: out at Dino's for days. knowing he's going to always
- 42:58Speaker 7: be there. Now the whole nation, it'll probably become like
- 43:00Speaker 7: one of those dives and diners or whatever those food
- 43:03Speaker 7: shows are. That's going to be a destination place now
- 43:06Speaker 7: for people.
- 43:09Speaker 4: All right, what do you got on the show today?
- 43:12Speaker 7: We're going to talk Apple Cup, a little bit more
- 43:14Speaker 7: Apple Cup. Seahawks are off again today, and they don't
- 43:16Speaker 7: return to practice from their three-day hiatus until tomorrow, so
- 43:19Speaker 7: not a lot of news there. The Apple Cup, we're
- 43:22Speaker 7: going to talk to Greg Woods of the Spokesman Review,
- 43:24Speaker 7: get to Washington State's side. We got... Softie Mahler's side,
- 43:28Speaker 7: which wasn't exactly Cougar's side yesterday. He and Jesslyn got
- 43:32Speaker 7: in a sparring match about the coverage of sideline reporting.
- 43:35Speaker 7: If you listeners don't know, Softie's going to be the
- 43:38Speaker 7: new sideline reporter for Husky Broadcast on our station.
- 43:42Speaker 5: And Jess is.
- 43:45Speaker 7: I'm sure that won't be. That's going to be partisan,
- 43:48Speaker 7: to say the least. But Yeah, Greg Woods and spokesman
- 43:51Speaker 7: are going to talk to Washington State side as well.
- 43:53Speaker 7: And of course, we'll give Laz Montes' flowers. They should
- 43:56Speaker 7: have called him up in like May at this rate, huh?
- 44:00Speaker 4: Yeah, they were very hesitant. But man, he's got some
- 44:03Speaker 4: thunder in that bat.
- 44:04Speaker 9: Why were they hesitant?
- 44:06Speaker 7: Was it like a service time thing?
- 44:09Speaker 4: Oh, it's 35% strikeout rate, 30% strikeout rate. If you're
- 44:12Speaker 4: doing that at the minors, what's that look like at
- 44:14Speaker 4: the majors? You don't want them to come up and fail.
- 44:17Speaker 4: But yeah, they could have called him up earlier for sure.
- 44:19Speaker 4: I mean, 38 homers is 38 homers.
- 44:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 44:23Speaker 7: You've been talking about it when you've been going to Tacoma. So, yeah.
- 44:27Speaker 5: All right.
- 44:28Speaker 4: Well, we'll listen at 10. Thank you, sir.
- 44:30Speaker 7: Thanks. Happy Wednesday. Thanks.
- 44:32Speaker 4: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, joining us right here on
- 44:35Speaker 4: the radio program. This segment brought to you by the
- 44:37Speaker 4: Emerald Queen Casino. And he'll be on the air today
- 44:40Speaker 4: at 10 o'clock. Does his own show, you know. Coming
- 44:42Speaker 4: up next on the program, we will talk more about
- 44:44Speaker 4: Laz Montez and his debut. last night at Fenway Sports
- 44:48Speaker 4: Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
- 44:51Speaker 11: I forgot to tell you, I have a song for this.
- 45:08Speaker 6: Oh.
- 45:09Speaker 4: Ah, I forgot. Completely slipped my mind.
- 45:12Speaker 6: Sorry.
- 45:12Speaker 4: Good one, too. Really good one.
- 45:14Speaker 2: If you want to tell it to me now, I
- 45:16Speaker 2: can get it.
- 45:16Speaker 4: Yeah, you look it up while I handle some details.
- 45:19Speaker 4: It's called Showdown, and it is, oh, man, I don't
- 45:24Speaker 4: even remember who the artist is, but it is from
- 45:26Speaker 4: the Kingpin soundtrack. And so, yes, it is called Showdown.
- 45:34Speaker 4: I did want to bring that back, and I forgot
- 45:36Speaker 4: to tell you. And it'll really liven up the segment,
- 45:38Speaker 4: I'm telling you. Welcome into our 8 o'clock hour, our
- 45:42Speaker 4: third hour here on this hump day. And if you
- 45:45Speaker 4: heard our previous segment, I certainly don't want to recap
- 45:47Speaker 4: at all. We're getting ready for the brand new Green
- 45:51Speaker 4: Jacket Draft. It's called the Showdown. I like drafts. We
- 45:55Speaker 4: like to preview major sporting events. We preview it through
- 45:58Speaker 4: a draft, and then we spend all season sort of
- 46:02Speaker 4: bickering back and forth as to who has the better teams.
- 46:06Speaker 4: The Green Jacket Draft, we retired yesterday. We start with
- 46:08Speaker 4: the showdown. The showdown is going to be the same
- 46:12Speaker 4: draft style, but we're going to incorporate a listener who
- 46:15Speaker 4: we're going to meet in a moment. And also Anders
- 46:17Speaker 4: Hurst is here. Hello, sir. I'm, you know, just excited
- 46:21Speaker 4: to draft.
- 46:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 46:23Speaker 4: It's infectious.
- 46:23Speaker 9: You know, I didn't normally used to be this big
- 46:25Speaker 9: of a draft guy, but as soon as I walked
- 46:27Speaker 9: into this room, I'm like, damn, I love drafts now.
- 46:29Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 46:30Speaker 4: You can call it the war room. You know, I'm
- 46:32Speaker 4: going to throw out the record so I can rub
- 46:34Speaker 4: it in everybody's faces. Ashley won the first green jacket season.
- 46:39Speaker 4: I won the next two. Bucky won the last one.
- 46:42Speaker 4: And so the overall final totals, 33 and a half
- 46:47Speaker 4: green jackets won by Chuck. Second place, Ashley with 22
- 46:51Speaker 4: and a half. Bucky and Kidd tied with 19 and
- 46:55Speaker 4: a half. But Bucky was winning the last two that
- 46:58Speaker 4: we didn't get to finish. So we'll say he finishes
- 47:01Speaker 4: the tiebreaker ahead of Kidd and finishes in third. Spencer
- 47:05Speaker 4: Hawes won one. It was one for one. There you go.
- 47:09Speaker 4: And Anders Hurst won two. There you go. Two for two.
- 47:13Speaker 4: Let's go.
- 47:13Speaker 2: It's only two and a half because him and I
- 47:15Speaker 2: did one together.
- 47:16Speaker 4: That's true.
- 47:16Speaker 2: I gave him the list and he drafted for me.
- 47:18Speaker 4: Actually, it was one and a half.
- 47:20Speaker 7: Okay.
- 47:20Speaker 4: One and a half because you won the half. We
- 47:22Speaker 4: were together on it.
- 47:22Speaker 2: I didn't mean to take it away from you.
- 47:24Speaker 4: I was trying to add to yours. Yeah, that's what
- 47:27Speaker 4: it was because I was wondering why I had one
- 47:29Speaker 4: and two down here. But yes, that's what it was.
- 47:32Speaker 4: You tied one and then you won. Or you teamed
- 47:35Speaker 4: up with one and then you won one.
- 47:36Speaker 7: Right.
- 47:37Speaker 4: Right okay so he's got a pretty good record and
- 47:40Speaker 4: uh but now now it's a whole new era now
- 47:43Speaker 4: we enter the showdown era and that's where the fun
- 47:45Speaker 4: begins now that's going to include uh a caller that's
- 47:50Speaker 4: going to draft with us to preview sporting events and
- 47:52Speaker 4: we have our caller on the line ashley who do
- 47:54Speaker 4: we have joining us today for the first ever showdown
- 47:57Speaker 4: draft we have jeff jeff hey jeff what's going on.
- 48:00Speaker 6: I am doing pretty good how are you guys.
- 48:04Speaker 4: Are you a college football ringer.
- 48:07Speaker 6: I'm a Husky fan, not a Duck fan.
- 48:10Speaker 4: Okay, well, that helps.
- 48:11Speaker 2: That might change the way he drafts.
- 48:13Speaker 4: I'll tell you that much. Yeah, you'll draft well then.
- 48:15Speaker 4: I was going to say, it probably helps. A lot
- 48:16Speaker 4: smarter than what we had probably bargained for. Yep, that's
- 48:21Speaker 4: the truth. All right, Jeff, well, here's how it works. Look,
- 48:25Speaker 4: we're going to all pick a Heisman Trophy winner. We're
- 48:28Speaker 4: all going to pick a national champion. We're all going
- 48:31Speaker 4: to pick a Big Ten champion. and explain why we're
- 48:34Speaker 4: picking these things. And then we're going to pick the
- 48:36Speaker 4: Huskies record. And just from the 12 games, don't try
- 48:39Speaker 4: to get cute and pick playoff wins or bowl wins
- 48:43Speaker 4: or anything like that. Just from their 12 regular season
- 48:46Speaker 4: scheduled games, we want a win total for the Washington Huskies. Now,
- 48:50Speaker 4: we're not going to do this in order. You just
- 48:52Speaker 4: got to prioritize what you are most confident about and
- 48:57Speaker 4: then make that pick when your turn comes up. and
- 49:00Speaker 4: that's how that's going to operate. Then obviously at the
- 49:03Speaker 4: end of the year, whoever gets the most picks right
- 49:05Speaker 4: will win the showdown and will get to pose with
- 49:07Speaker 4: the trophy. You don't get to take it home, though.
- 49:09Speaker 4: You just get to pose with it. It's like the
- 49:11Speaker 4: Stanley Cup. Just that important.
- 49:13Speaker 8: Which means that Jeff probably gets to come into the
- 49:15Speaker 8: studio so he can pose with the trophy.
- 49:17Speaker 4: I think that's what we should do. That's the only
- 49:19Speaker 4: way to do it. beer out of it?
- 49:21Speaker 2: He can bring a beer, a seltzer, some wine, vodka,
- 49:24Speaker 2: whatever he wants.
- 49:24Speaker 4: A spoon with it? He can propose to it? I
- 49:26Speaker 4: don't care.
- 49:27Speaker 2: You just can't pee in it like you mentioned earlier.
- 49:29Speaker 4: No peeing in the trophy. I mean, you could. We
- 49:33Speaker 4: don't advise you.
- 49:34Speaker 2: We're on YouTube now. We're on YouTube now.
- 49:37Speaker 4: All right, Ashley, the last thing we need then, now
- 49:40Speaker 4: that we got Jeff, now that we got Anders, now
- 49:42Speaker 4: that we got a new name, we got a trophy,
- 49:44Speaker 4: is the order in which we are drafting.
- 49:46Speaker 2: Here we go. Anders has the first pick.
- 49:49Speaker 4: Let's go. Talk about beginner's luck.
- 49:52Speaker 2: I have the second pick. Jeff has the third pick.
- 49:56Speaker 2: And Chuck is in fourth.
- 49:58Speaker 4: That's fine. All right. This is one of the drafts
- 50:02Speaker 4: that we've done in the past, though, where... I don't
- 50:04Speaker 4: usually feel like I got my thunder taken away from me.
- 50:08Speaker 4: My lawn gets mowed the least, I think, in this month.
- 50:10Speaker 5: Okay.
- 50:10Speaker 4: But we'll see. I say that famous last words, right? Yeah, right.
- 50:13Speaker 4: All right, Anders. So where are we going to start?
- 50:16Speaker 4: What are you most confident about this upcoming college football season?
- 50:19Speaker 4: I'm going to go UW record first.
- 50:21Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
- 50:22Speaker 4: And it's going to be 9-3.
- 50:22Speaker 6: 9-3.
- 50:22Speaker 4: All right. Taking the nine wins. Is that what you
- 50:27Speaker 4: would have taken, Ashley?
- 50:29Speaker 8: Would I have taken that first? If I was taking
- 50:32Speaker 8: UW wins, I would have taken nine. Yes, I had
- 50:33Speaker 8: that as my number one on wins.
- 50:35Speaker 4: I would have too, but I think we're in the
- 50:37Speaker 4: same page here. Wouldn't have been your first pick? I'm
- 50:39Speaker 4: not broken up that it is off the board first overall. But,
- 50:44Speaker 4: of course, now you might get territorial over other UW
- 50:48Speaker 4: options that remain. So Jeff might have just got a
- 50:54Speaker 4: little nervous there.
- 50:54Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
- 50:55Speaker 4: Jeff, how many, what was your, well, don't even tell us.
- 50:59Speaker 4: I don't want to know. We'll wait until your pick.
- 51:01Speaker 4: Don't reveal your draft strategy. All right, Ashley, you're up next.
- 51:04Speaker 4: What are you going to pick?
- 51:05Speaker 8: I don't know how great I, I mean, I know
- 51:06Speaker 8: I feel confident in this pick, but at the same time, right?
- 51:10Speaker 8: I'm going to go to the Heisman winner right away
- 51:12Speaker 8: and give me CJ Carr, please.
- 51:14Speaker 4: CJ Carr. Oh, somebody listened to Rick Newhouse.
- 51:17Speaker 2: And a lot of other people who really think he's excellent.
- 51:20Speaker 4: The betting favorite. Yeah, how did that happen? I don't know.
- 51:23Speaker 4: I mean, there are a lot of really good candidates. Yeah,
- 51:26Speaker 4: there are. But C.J. Carr is carrying some kind of
- 51:30Speaker 4: momentum into this year. I mean, it's not quite arch madness,
- 51:34Speaker 4: and it's not, you know, Beano Cook picking Ron Paulus
- 51:37Speaker 4: to win seven Heismans his freshman year. True. But he
- 51:42Speaker 4: definitely has a lot of momentum right now, C.J.
- 51:46Speaker 7: Carr.
- 51:47Speaker 4: And so Ashley's taking him off the Heisman board. Also,
- 51:50Speaker 4: does not break my heart. Wasn't going to be my
- 51:51Speaker 4: first Heisman pick.
- 51:52Speaker 5: Me neither.
- 51:53Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, you are up. Here we go. Our
- 51:55Speaker 4: first ever listener pick in one of our drafts. You
- 51:59Speaker 4: got a lot of pressure, a lot of responsibility there, Jeff.
- 52:03Speaker 5: I'm going to go.
- 52:04Speaker 6: Big Ten champion, and I'm going to go Ohio State Buckeyes.
- 52:09Speaker 4: That was going to be my pick. Oh, there you go. See,
- 52:12Speaker 4: he did mow your lawn.
- 52:13Speaker 2: He did mow your lawn.
- 52:14Speaker 4: I don't like the listener aspect of this.
- 52:16Speaker 2: You're the one who came up with it. You can
- 52:18Speaker 2: only blame yourself. No, no, no.
- 52:19Speaker 4: Well, let's just make them pick fourth every time.
- 52:24Speaker 5: Oh, man.
- 52:25Speaker 4: You can mow his lawn, though, on the way back.
- 52:27Speaker 4: I can. That is a possibility.
- 52:29Speaker 2: You'll probably mow mine, too.
- 52:31Speaker 4: All right. Ohio State Big Ten champions. That would have
- 52:33Speaker 4: been my pick. I don't know why they're not a
- 52:37Speaker 4: little more clear cut in that. But I think that
- 52:41Speaker 4: has to do with Oregon. They are saying that Dan
- 52:44Speaker 4: Lanning's Oregon Ducks, this is his most complete roster. I
- 52:49Speaker 4: knew Jeff wasn't going to take Oregon. He pretty much
- 52:51Speaker 4: announced that as soon as we met him. I am.
- 52:55Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and take the Oregon Ducks
- 52:57Speaker 4: as my Big Ten champion. And I am also going
- 53:01Speaker 4: to take the other UW number that I have in
- 53:04Speaker 4: mind because I don't want seven or ten. I'm going
- 53:08Speaker 4: to take UW with eight wins this year. So those
- 53:11Speaker 4: are my two picks. I don't like doing it, but
- 53:14Speaker 4: if Oregon's, I mean, we've already seen them be mighty.
- 53:17Speaker 4: We have to acknowledge it and accept it. And if
- 53:20Speaker 4: people are saying that this is their best team yet,
- 53:24Speaker 4: then if it's not Ohio State, I don't want the
- 53:27Speaker 4: third choice out of the Big Ten Conference. So give
- 53:30Speaker 4: me the Ducks and give me UW. Actually, those back-to-back
- 53:35Speaker 4: picks doesn't make me sound very confident. Yeah, Husky fans
- 53:38Speaker 4: are pretty.
- 53:38Speaker 7: Angry, right?
- 53:38Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you doing?
- 53:39Speaker 8: At least you don't go with seven, because then they'd
- 53:40Speaker 8: be like, well, you are a jerk with your UW hat.
- 53:44Speaker 4: Yeah, with my UW hat on today. Yeah, right? I
- 53:46Speaker 4: even took my new car, and I took all of
- 53:48Speaker 4: the interior. I've got all these fancy options.
- 53:51Speaker 5: Sure.
- 53:51Speaker 4: Like, Bucky can make his Tesla fart, and I apparently
- 53:54Speaker 4: can change the color of my... So I changed it
- 53:57Speaker 4: to purple this week. Nice. Good for you. I'm on
- 54:00Speaker 4: board right now. All right, Jeff, you're back up. Feel
- 54:03Speaker 4: free to critique either of my picks. I mean, that's
- 54:06Speaker 4: part of the whole drafting experience is to give your
- 54:09Speaker 4: friends crap.
- 54:11Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad you took Oregon, and I didn't get
- 54:14Speaker 6: stuck with them.
- 54:15Speaker 4: That's a great strategy, honestly. All right, well, where are
- 54:19Speaker 4: you going to go with your selection here?
- 54:22Speaker 6: I'm going to go national champion, and I am going
- 54:25Speaker 6: to take Notre Dame.
- 54:27Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Then I didn't have to.
- 54:28Speaker 4: All right. Notre Dame is the selection here. Another person
- 54:33Speaker 4: that might have been listening to Rick Neuheisel yesterday. They
- 54:36Speaker 4: seem to be the chic pick right now to start
- 54:39Speaker 4: the season, and C.J. Carr is the chic pick to
- 54:42Speaker 4: win the Heisman Trophy. I mean, I think the national championship,
- 54:50Speaker 4: picture is very clouded i don't really see a clear-cut
- 54:54Speaker 4: winner yeah but if i were to take my national
- 54:57Speaker 4: championship pick i think jeff's probably pick my pocket again
- 55:01Speaker 4: i probably would have gone notre dame and i think
- 55:04Speaker 4: it's just because i'm being swayed by so many people
- 55:06Speaker 4: like rick newisle that i respect yeah yeah yeah i'm
- 55:10Speaker 4: getting a nod from andrew yeah i mean.
- 55:12Speaker 6: I mean that's it i i actually had a list
- 55:15Speaker 6: of about eight teams.
- 55:16Speaker 4: Yeah the national champ so do i it.
- 55:18Speaker 6: Was it was hard to Hard to come up with one.
- 55:22Speaker 4: Well, they should have a major chip on their shoulder,
- 55:25Speaker 4: which is another aspect about this, you know, after last
- 55:28Speaker 4: year's shunning. So Notre Dame is the pick to Jeff
- 55:32Speaker 4: to win the national title. All right, Ashley, you have
- 55:35Speaker 4: taken your Heisman pick. Uh, you would be on your
- 55:38Speaker 4: third UW pick. You would be on your third big
- 55:40Speaker 4: 10 team pick or your set or your top, uh,
- 55:43Speaker 4: or excuse me, the second national championship.
- 55:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 55:46Speaker 8: And I'm going to go, I'm going to go with
- 55:47Speaker 8: the national champion and I am going to take the
- 55:49Speaker 8: Ohio state Buckeyes.
- 55:50Speaker 4: Oh, she's going to Ohio state. Another good pick.
- 55:53Speaker 6: I think.
- 55:53Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 55:54Speaker 7: Uh, yeah.
- 55:55Speaker 4: Um, and suddenly, uh, There is no chance I'm taking
- 56:00Speaker 4: Oregon and both. I'm just going to tell you right now.
- 56:06Speaker 2: I think it'd be funny if you had to.
- 56:07Speaker 4: You can try to manipulate it and force me into it.
- 56:10Speaker 5: Let's do it.
- 56:10Speaker 4: That is not going to happen later in the draft.
- 56:13Speaker 4: I'm revealing some of my cards. I refuse to pick
- 56:16Speaker 4: them for both. I like Ohio State as national champion.
- 56:19Speaker 4: I think they have the best player in the country.
- 56:21Speaker 4: Julian Sand with a year full of experience under his belt.
- 56:25Speaker 4: He is once again going to have a legit receiving core,
- 56:29Speaker 4: maybe the best receiving core, because they've got another superstar freshman,
- 56:32Speaker 4: Chris Henry's son, Chris Henry Jr. is a freshman there.
- 56:36Speaker 4: So they're going to be loaded. They got a running
- 56:38Speaker 4: back named Bo Jackson. That's a pretty good name.
- 56:41Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 56:41Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 56:42Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I can't argue with Jeff or Ashley,
- 56:47Speaker 4: either one of them with their national championship picks, but
- 56:49Speaker 4: I'm also, if this makes sense, not bothered by it.
- 56:52Speaker 4: I still feel good then I'm going to get a
- 56:54Speaker 4: real good contender.
- 56:55Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 56:55Speaker 4: See, I'm not either.
- 56:56Speaker 9: Cause for me, there was three things in both the
- 56:59Speaker 9: UW record and the big 10 champion that I was like,
- 57:02Speaker 9: I have to get one of these three.
- 57:03Speaker 4: I'm with you.
- 57:04Speaker 9: And I can kind of live with other things with
- 57:06Speaker 9: national champion and Heisman. And that leaves me with my
- 57:10Speaker 9: pick and my big 10 champion is going to be Indiana.
- 57:13Speaker 9: Now I don't feel like Indiana would have been my
- 57:16Speaker 9: first pick, but I think they are one of the
- 57:18Speaker 9: three teams that are vying for it this year. anyone
- 57:21Speaker 9: else kind of is an outside chance, so I'm glad
- 57:23Speaker 9: I at least get one of those. So I'm taking
- 57:26Speaker 9: Indiana as my Big Ten champion. It's hard to bet
- 57:29Speaker 9: against the defending national champs, right?
- 57:31Speaker 4: Again, I like it. I have a feeling that Kurt
- 57:33Speaker 4: Cignetti's team is going to stumble a little bit. I mean,
- 57:37Speaker 4: you just can't lose that much talent and just pick
- 57:40Speaker 4: up where you left off. But I think he's so good,
- 57:43Speaker 4: and that program's on such a roll that by year's end—
- 57:47Speaker 4: They might be the best team in the Big Ten.
- 57:48Speaker 4: Will they have cost themselves a game or two leading
- 57:51Speaker 4: up to that point?
- 57:52Speaker 3: Perhaps.
- 57:53Speaker 4: I think that's in play. But I think maybe by
- 57:55Speaker 4: year's end, they might be the best team in the
- 57:57Speaker 4: conference again.
- 57:58Speaker 9: And they're not lacking of talent either. It's not like
- 58:01Speaker 9: they lost everyone from their national championship team. UW 2024-ing it, right?
- 58:06Speaker 9: That's not the case here. They're still going to be
- 58:08Speaker 9: a really good team this year.
- 58:09Speaker 5: Agreed, agreed.
- 58:10Speaker 4: All right, you get another pick here in round number
- 58:12Speaker 4: three in our first ever showdown draft, replacing the Green Jacket,
- 58:17Speaker 4: our college football preview. We do it every year. Yeah.
- 58:21Speaker 9: I'm debating between two names here for my Heisman because
- 58:25Speaker 9: I feel like I can get basically anything I want
- 58:28Speaker 9: for the national champion no matter what happens later. So
- 58:31Speaker 9: I'm going to take.
- 58:34Speaker 4: Arch Manning as my... Arch Madness!
- 58:37Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he finally kind of breaks out here.
- 58:40Speaker 9: Everyone's kind of slow playing his development to finally be
- 58:45Speaker 9: this is the year where he breaks out fully for Texas. Now,
- 58:49Speaker 9: I don't know if Texas themselves are going to be
- 58:51Speaker 9: a national contender. They might, but I think he is
- 58:54Speaker 9: going to definitely break out and be one of the
- 58:57Speaker 9: best players in college football this year.
- 58:58Speaker 4: I think he's going to be much improved.
- 58:59Speaker 1: Yes.
- 59:00Speaker 4: And if he's in the conversation, let's face it, this
- 59:03Speaker 4: is a lot of people voting. The Manning name carries
- 59:07Speaker 4: probably more weight than it should. And so if he
- 59:10Speaker 4: makes it close, the tiebreaker might be that his last
- 59:14Speaker 4: name is Manning. His name's Arch Manning, for gosh sakes. Now,
- 59:17Speaker 4: I'm not going to pick him for my Heisman. I
- 59:20Speaker 4: don't see him improving that much. But I'll tell you this,
- 59:22Speaker 4: I might pick him next year because of everybody that
- 59:25Speaker 4: thinks that Arch Manning is... arch madness is about the
- 59:28Speaker 4: number one pick and tank for arch i think the
- 59:30Speaker 4: manning family goes to school and i think arch manning
- 59:34Speaker 4: might stay and now that they've got the five for
- 59:36Speaker 4: five rule he might stay two more years true it's
- 59:38Speaker 4: true actually i think this is his fourth year uh
- 59:41Speaker 4: but but anyway um arch madness uh continues uh anders
- 59:45Speaker 4: is going to go with the texas quarterback what do
- 59:48Speaker 4: you think of that doing jeff.
- 59:51Speaker 6: I think it's a good pick. He's definitely a top
- 59:55Speaker 6: three candidate for it. But it's been a while, I think,
- 59:59Speaker 6: since the favorite has actually won the Heisman, I believe.
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: It has.
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: Another thing to keep in mind, CJ Carr.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was thinking, but I was like,
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: at the same time.
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: Nice pick, Ashley.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: I could have just, you know... Pulled something out of
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: my butt, I suppose.
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: Oh, don't do that. Here you are worried about peeing
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: in the cup. And now you want to do this.
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: Body talk in the morning here.
- 1:00:23Speaker 6: Wow.
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: All right, Ashley, you've got CJ Carr as your Heisman.
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: You've got Ohio State as your national champion. It's your
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: third pick, so you've either got to pick a UW
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: win total or a Big Ten champion.
- 1:00:33Speaker 8: Yeah, and I am going to cheer for UW this year,
- 1:00:35Speaker 8: not want them to lose, so there's no way in
- 1:00:37Speaker 8: heck I'm taking seven wins.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: I'm going to take the ten.
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: Wow.
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: I want to know how Jeff immediately feels about getting seven.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: He could go 11.
- 1:00:46Speaker 6: I knew I had a bad feeling that was going
- 1:00:49Speaker 6: to happen. I was painting myself into a corner there.
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: That's not a good feeling.
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: Hey, you could go 11. You could go up even more.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: You could go 11.
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: That is true.
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: All right, well, it is your pick. Now, all the
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: UW picks are off the board, so you don't have
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: to necessarily go there, but I'm telling you, if you
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: steal my Heisman pick at this point, Jeff, I will
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: never talk to you again.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: Steal it.
- 1:01:17Speaker 6: Steal it. I'm pretty sure I know who your pick is.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: Oh, you do?
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: I'm going to go off.
- 1:01:24Speaker 7: I do.
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: But I'm going to go off the board here a
- 1:01:28Speaker 6: little bit. And it's going to be his teammate. I'm
- 1:01:31Speaker 6: going to go Jeremiah Smith wins the Heisman.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: I had him on my list.
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: I did, too. He's not my number one pick. You
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: misread my mind.
- 1:01:41Speaker 8: Oh.
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: But I love your pick. And I hope that if
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith does establish himself, because there's an argument he
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: was the best player in the country a year ago.
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: I don't want this quarterback thing. I get it. That's
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: the most important position in the sport. But the description
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: of the award is the best player in the country.
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: It's not the MVP. And Jeremiah Smith is going to
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: be the best player in the country this year. And
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: if he puts up the requisite numbers and Ohio State
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: has a Big Ten championship-like season, I want him to
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: win the award if he's the best player and not
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: just give it to a damn quarterback.
- 1:02:30Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree 100%.
- 1:02:33Speaker 5: It's become a.
- 1:02:33Speaker 6: Quarterback award, and it's just, you know, it's not what
- 1:02:37Speaker 6: the award's for. It should be the best player.
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: In the country.
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: I agree. All right. So we get to national championship,
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: and I told you I would not pick Oregon, and
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: I'm not. Okay, so everybody rest assured. I'm not going
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: to pick Oregon to win the national championship. I am
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: going to– I already gave you a little foreshadowing on this. Oh,
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: maybe I'm not. No, I'm going to go with Miami.
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: I'm going to go with Miami to win the national championship.
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: I came very close to taking Indiana to win it again.
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: But winning back-to-back national championships, man, what a tall task.
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: So I'll take Miami to win the national championship. I
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: know that's somewhere out there in the world that's making
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: one person really happy.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: Closer than you think, Chuck.
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: And then with my final pick, I have to take
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: my Heisman Trophy. And so this has been my favorite
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: pick the entire time. I thought I could gamble a
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: little bit and get this as my last selection, and
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: I did. My pick for the Heisman Trophy this year,
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: to me, he was the best player in the country
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: at the end of the year. I didn't understand the
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: hype around this guy during the season, and it was
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: purely because I wasn't watching him play enough. By the
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: time I saw him in the playoff, I'm like, there's
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: not a better player than this in the country. Then
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: he fought like mad to come back to college football.
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: I mean, he went to court like 13 times, and
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: he's got the chip on his shoulder of his head
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: coach left him and has been a jerk to Ole
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: Miss ever since. So give me Trinidad Chambliss to win
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: the Heisman Trophy in a landslide this year. I think
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: he's the best college football player, college quarterback, I should say,
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: because I think Jeremiah Smith's the best player. Trinidad Chambliss
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: is the best college quarterback in America, so that's my
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: Heisman pick.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: I'd love to see that.
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: Yeah, that was on my list. I'll tell you that
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: right now. All right, Jeff, you got your final pick.
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: So are you going to go 7-5 or 11-1 for
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: the Dogs?
- 1:04:41Speaker 6: There's no way I'm taking the Dogs to go 7 wins.
- 1:04:44Speaker 7: There you go.
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: I'll risk it.
- 1:04:47Speaker 6: We're going to go 11-1.
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: That's right, Jeff. That's right. I just have to ask
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: a question. I didn't get your last name. Is this
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: Jeff Bechtold?
- 1:04:54Speaker 7: No, no, no.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: That would be my favorite thing ever.
- 1:04:59Speaker 8: Bechtold's like, I'm playing in this one. Dogs for the
- 1:05:02Speaker 8: Big Ten Championship. Dogs for the National Championship.
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, analyze it. How do they get to 11-1?
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: And don't say win 11 out of 12 games.
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: They're going to win the first four. I'm pretty confident.
- 1:05:17Speaker 6: They're going to go to USC. They're going to win
- 1:05:19Speaker 6: a close one, and that's going to get the ball rolling.
- 1:05:22Speaker 6: I think the only one they lose, the only one
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: they will lose may be at Oregon. But they've got
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: the perfect schedule at home. You've got Penn State at home,
- 1:05:35Speaker 6: Indiana at home. I can see this.
- 1:05:39Speaker 7: We're going to go 11-1.
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: Wow. Did that encourage Ashley to pick UW as conference
- 1:05:44Speaker 4: champions then?
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Well, I already have them at 10-2, so yes, I
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: am taking them.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: As conference champions.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: I have to.
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: Look at that. Look at that love. I'm wearing the hat,
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: but it's very clear who the biggest Husky fans in
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: the draft are. Their names are Jeff and Ashley.
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:06:04Speaker 8: And had I not been the last one picking... My
- 1:06:07Speaker 8: Big Ten champ.
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: What would you have taken?
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Well, if I'd had the first pick, I probably would
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: have gone with Ohio State.
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: That's fair.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: But I didn't want to.
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: If you had your first pick, would you dub wins?
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: What would you have taken? Nine. What about you, Jeff?
- 1:06:21Speaker 6: Probably nine.
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: Probably nine. I think it's safe.
- 1:06:24Speaker 8: I also think it's safe. So I'm willing to take
- 1:06:27Speaker 8: a little bit of a risk here.
- 1:06:29Speaker 9: They'll get one more out of it than the bettors
- 1:06:32Speaker 9: think they will.
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: That's right. This stuff is trickier than you think.
- 1:06:35Speaker 5: It's true.
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: Drafting is an art.
- 1:06:36Speaker 6: It is.
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: All right, national champion Anders, last pick of the draft.
- 1:06:40Speaker 9: I'm trying to decide if I want to go with...
- 1:06:42Speaker 9: Because when I'm drafting, when I'm kind of rooting for
- 1:06:46Speaker 9: things to happen, sometimes when I'm gambling, a little wagering
- 1:06:50Speaker 9: as well, I like to go.
- 1:06:54Speaker 6: All in.
- 1:06:55Speaker 9: I don't like to hedge. So like, I don't like
- 1:06:56Speaker 9: to pick against another pick that I have.
- 1:06:59Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 1:07:01Speaker 9: So I'm trying to decide if I want my Heisman
- 1:07:04Speaker 9: winner to win the national championship or my big 10
- 1:07:06Speaker 9: winner to win the national championship. I'm going to go
- 1:07:09Speaker 9: with my big 10 winner. I do think Indiana goes
- 1:07:11Speaker 9: back to back. Um, Kurt Cignetti is a fantastic coach.
- 1:07:15Speaker 9: And like I said, they're not devoid of talent. And
- 1:07:18Speaker 9: I think Chuck, you kind of put the nail on
- 1:07:20Speaker 9: the head there. They may, take a little bit longer
- 1:07:23Speaker 9: to get going in the first kind of few games
- 1:07:25Speaker 9: of this season. But by the end of the year,
- 1:07:28Speaker 9: they'll have that kind of championship pedigree stand out a
- 1:07:31Speaker 9: little bit, and I think when it matters most, and
- 1:07:34Speaker 9: I even think there's a chance they don't win the
- 1:07:36Speaker 9: Big Ten but still win the national championship.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: Oh, I think that's what's going to happen, or at
- 1:07:40Speaker 4: least I think there's a very good chance that that's
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: going to happen.
- 1:07:43Speaker 9: Yeah, so they may not put themselves in the regular
- 1:07:46Speaker 9: season category of the best team in college football, but
- 1:07:49Speaker 9: once playoff time comes, they'll be ready to go.
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: Yeah, what I'm betting on is that Oregon wins the
- 1:07:52Speaker 4: Big Ten and then loses by 75 points in the playoffs.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: Sounds great to me.
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: To North Dakota State. Exactly. Perfect. Jeff, you were the perfect, perfect,
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: perfect drafter for us to start the showdown era. So
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: thank you very much.
- 1:08:09Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
- 1:08:09Speaker 5: And don't worry.
- 1:08:10Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: We will be tracking all of this data throughout the
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: course of the season. We might even pop you back
- 1:08:17Speaker 4: on at some point just to get a mid-season update on.
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: How you're feeling.
- 1:08:20Speaker 4: Unless you're winning, then we don't want to talk to you.
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:22Speaker 6: Yeah. Of course.
- 1:08:24Speaker 4: And then maybe someday you'll get to embrace this gorgeous,
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: gaudy trophy that was made for the showdown. So thank you, Jeff.
- 1:08:33Speaker 6: That would be a dream come true.
- 1:08:36Speaker 5: Thanks, man.
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: Appreciate you.
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: All right.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: Thanks, guys.
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: Appreciate it. All right, Jeff. Well done, everybody. I don't
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: know why I turned my mic off. I was trying
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: to hang up on Jeff for some reason, and I
- 1:08:46Speaker 4: turned my own mic off.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't hang up on him. Only I can.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:08:50Speaker 4: Excellent work. That was fun.
- 1:08:52Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:08:52Speaker 4: Coming up next. Thank you, Anders. Appreciate it. No problem.
- 1:08:55Speaker 4: Coming up next, Hard Knocks recap and certainly what really
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: stood out to us about the finale. Sports Radio 93.3
- 1:09:02Speaker 4: KJR FM. Man, I haven't done it in a while.
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: You know, I heard someone talking about drafts today.
- 1:09:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: And this morning on my way in.
- 1:09:09Speaker 8: And they said, I don't think drafts are fair. We
- 1:09:11Speaker 8: need to get rid of the NFL draft because it's
- 1:09:15Speaker 8: unfair to tell young people where they have to live
- 1:09:18Speaker 8: and play.
- 1:09:19Speaker 4: Who's the person that I need to beat and leave
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: in a gutter?
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: I can't. Frank somebody.
- 1:09:23Speaker 5: Oh.
- 1:09:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
- 1:09:25Speaker 7: Frank.
- 1:09:25Speaker 6: Frank.
- 1:09:26Speaker 7: Frank.
- 1:09:26Speaker 6: Frank.
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: Frank Furter. Frank the Tank.
- 1:09:28Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:09:29Speaker 4: Well, what an idiot. But it was great to draft again.
- 1:09:33Speaker 4: And I will say we're doing another one tomorrow. The
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: listener thing worked out beautifully. Jeff was fantastic. So there's
- 1:09:41Speaker 4: the standard. So we're going to need somebody else to
- 1:09:44Speaker 4: draft tomorrow. And tomorrow is Big Ten Fantasy Football. So
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: this is a big one. You're going to basically just
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: draft the original roster for your Big Ten team.
- 1:09:53Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: Um, but obviously we're not going to use the same
- 1:09:57Speaker 4: person to make the pickups throughout the year.
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: All right.
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: That would be unfair. There will just be a listener team,
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: but you, somebody out there tomorrow, eight o'clock again, is
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: going to be responsible for drafting the original roster on
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: the listeners. Big 10 fantasy football team as a quarterback
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: running back wide receiver, and then a wide receiver running
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: back or tight end, uh, at your flex position. So, uh,
- 1:10:22Speaker 4: keep that in mind. for tomorrow, and 49451 for all
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: interested parties. All right, let's talk some hard knocks here,
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: because last night, the season wrapped up. I had fallen
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: out of love with hard knocks, maybe even out of
- 1:10:39Speaker 4: like with hard knocks until this year, and I'm sure
- 1:10:42Speaker 4: it's knowing the players and the coaches like we do
- 1:10:46Speaker 4: and follow on a daily basis that worked, but I
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: also think that they did a beautiful job of it. Um,
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: and there were some great things in that last episode, uh,
- 1:10:58Speaker 4: Dino's pub getting recognized and John Schneider. It's not like
- 1:11:05Speaker 4: it was a secret, but he, I mean, to see
- 1:11:09Speaker 4: that he literally holds Seahawk meetings at Dino's across the street.
- 1:11:14Speaker 4: I mean, who's not going to try to right into
- 1:11:17Speaker 4: that now. Well, and he said, like, I've been doing
- 1:11:18Speaker 4: this for 10 years.
- 1:11:19Speaker 8: I mean, we, as we mentioned, we've talked about it.
- 1:11:21Speaker 8: We talk about it, but I don't think until you
- 1:11:23Speaker 8: see it on TV and you're like, wait a minute.
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: Oh, it's a real place.
- 1:11:25Speaker 8: It's just literally in a little tiny strip mall next
- 1:11:27Speaker 8: to a mini mart.
- 1:11:28Speaker 4: And he's not in the back room.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: Nope.
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: He's out in the middle of the floor. Just right there.
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: People walking around. Maybe more than one beer.
- 1:11:35Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe.
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: I think maybe more than one beer.
- 1:11:37Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised.
- 1:11:40Speaker 4: But right out there in the mix.
- 1:11:42Speaker 5: So, I mean.
- 1:11:44Speaker 4: How are people not going to want to go see that?
- 1:11:48Speaker 4: So you might have ruined your spot. Not that it
- 1:11:51Speaker 4: was a secret spot, but he might have ruined his spot.
- 1:11:54Speaker 8: They can put like a gated area for him now.
- 1:11:56Speaker 4: But then that ruins it.
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: I know it does.
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: You don't get to see the lion in his natural habitat.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Where the deals are done.
- 1:12:02Speaker 4: Yeah, he's behind a cage now. Also love that they
- 1:12:06Speaker 4: infused Dolly, a Dolly song into it.
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: I did too.
- 1:12:09Speaker 4: That was not by accident. They did a little tip
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: of the cap to Dolly Parton passing away last week,
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: so they did a whole montage of going to work
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: and 9 to 5 in it. I thought that Uso,
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: I was expecting Montori Foster Jr. to be the star
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: of the final episode, and it was Uso instead, and
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: I loved it. Because he really came off very, very likable.
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: Yes, and also, John Schneider came off very, very small
- 1:12:35Speaker 8: when he was hugging him. I was like, Uso's only 6'3.
- 1:12:38Speaker 8: I mean, he's not small. He's not a small man,
- 1:12:40Speaker 8: but it made John, when they hugged, I was like, oh,
- 1:12:42Speaker 8: John Schneider looks teeny tiny.
- 1:12:44Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:12:44Speaker 8: The only disappointment I actually had in that entire episode
- 1:12:47Speaker 8: was that we did not get to see Montori Foster
- 1:12:50Speaker 8: be told he made the team.
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: True.
- 1:12:52Speaker 6: True.
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: And we didn't get to see his parents' reaction. We
- 1:12:54Speaker 4: heard them over the phone.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: But it wasn't him telling them.
- 1:12:57Speaker 8: That was just him working through it after.
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: It seemed like he'd already told them.
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
- 1:13:02Speaker 8: That was the one disappointment I had in that, is
- 1:13:04Speaker 8: the way that was handled.
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder why they didn't do it. Because he
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: was such an integral part of every episode.
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: It would have been.
- 1:13:10Speaker 8: And that's what I wanted to see the most, was
- 1:13:12Speaker 8: I can't wait to see him get told he makes
- 1:13:14Speaker 8: this team. And then get to tell his parents that's
- 1:13:17Speaker 8: going to be so emotional. That's like my favorite thing
- 1:13:18Speaker 8: with baseball, when they get the call up.
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: And they get to call their parents.
- 1:13:22Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: All of that. I love it.
- 1:13:25Speaker 4: I hear you. But Uso did come off well, but
- 1:13:28Speaker 4: the guy that came off the best, and it's, I mean,
- 1:13:34Speaker 4: the way that Hard Knocks wrapped that up, and they
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: pretty much just said at the very end, I don't
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: have it word for word, but what they took away,
- 1:13:45Speaker 4: the HBO producers that came to town and were there
- 1:13:49Speaker 4: every single day in camp and were everywhere at the
- 1:13:53Speaker 4: virginia mason athletic center in every meeting room what they
- 1:13:56Speaker 4: clearly came away with from their time in renton was
- 1:14:01Speaker 4: that the seahawks have a superstar in their building and
- 1:14:05Speaker 4: it's their head coach yep that's how they wrapped it
- 1:14:09Speaker 4: up uh... it was pretty much a tribute and i'm
- 1:14:14Speaker 4: sure didn't start that way but actually i think that
- 1:14:17Speaker 4: they just like this is the best leader i've ever
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: been around this guy is unbelievable And the last episode,
- 1:14:25Speaker 4: the number of guys that came into his office and
- 1:14:29Speaker 4: how he handled them, and then the two different speeches
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: that he gave in the midst where even John Schneider
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: is in the crowd nodding along like, hey, that's good stuff.
- 1:14:40Speaker 4: They clearly came away from this experience, the producers of
- 1:14:45Speaker 4: that show, enamored with our head coach. We understand why.
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: It was great to see him behind the scenes. I
- 1:14:53Speaker 4: love him more than ever. And I think that he
- 1:14:56Speaker 4: needs to be locked up right now to a lifetime contract.
- 1:14:59Speaker 4: And the Kozlis, you just spent $ 10 billion on the franchise.
- 1:15:01Speaker 4: Why not give our head coach $ 30 million for the
- 1:15:04Speaker 4: next 10 years and let's just be done with it?
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: I mean, I would love that.
- 1:15:07Speaker 8: And we've all already been enamored with him because of
- 1:15:10Speaker 8: what he's already done in his short time here. I mean,
- 1:15:13Speaker 8: second year and you bring us a Super Bowl, it
- 1:15:15Speaker 8: doesn't get much better than that. But it isn't even
- 1:15:17Speaker 8: just that. It is kind of the, he's been a
- 1:15:20Speaker 8: bit of a mystery. He's clearly got a brilliant mind,
- 1:15:25Speaker 8: but we haven't gotten to really experience a lot of.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: The way that he goes about his every day.
- 1:15:30Speaker 8: So getting to have that insight and getting to see
- 1:15:32Speaker 8: how it is that he interacts with the players and
- 1:15:33Speaker 8: how he interacts with John and his staff and different things.
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: I mean, I was fascinated by it.
- 1:15:38Speaker 8: He has found a way to manage and like, tread
- 1:15:43Speaker 8: this line of being a confidant and a friend and
- 1:15:47Speaker 8: a supportive person while still never losing his authority.
- 1:15:50Speaker 5: You're right.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: And it's an incredible skill.
- 1:15:54Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:15:54Speaker 4: Yeah. It's very impressive. He impressed me the entire time.
- 1:15:58Speaker 4: And I already entered like 11 out of 10 impressed
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: with the guy. How did I get more impressed with
- 1:16:04Speaker 4: him by the end of the episode? And every episode,
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: I got a little more impressed with him. I mean,
- 1:16:10Speaker 4: I've gone on record saying, and I'm not the only one.
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: It's not like this is original for me. But I
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: think he's the most important part of this entire Super
- 1:16:19Speaker 4: Bowl run that we had. I think he is the
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: true star. John Schneider's been an A-plus general manager. We
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: obviously have uncovered some A-plus talent. Sam Darnold has certainly
- 1:16:32Speaker 4: played a role. The gamble on him and winning the
- 1:16:35Speaker 4: championship a year ago. But the key to it all
- 1:16:38Speaker 4: was that guy. And I already felt that going into
- 1:16:41Speaker 4: hard knocks. And now I'm even more impressed with him
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: than ever before. And obviously, I'm not the only one.
- 1:16:48Speaker 4: And to think about this, I mean, we have an
- 1:16:51Speaker 4: offensive coordinator and we haven't seen him call plays. Hugh
- 1:16:55Speaker 4: Millen has now famously said, you don't know until you
- 1:16:59Speaker 4: see it. Like, we're not going to know if we're
- 1:17:01Speaker 4: not going to be able to evaluate Brian Fleury, the
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: play caller, until we actually see how he calls plays
- 1:17:07Speaker 4: in a real game, calling the play, the, the ideal
- 1:17:10Speaker 4: play for that situation. And in the flow of the game,
- 1:17:13Speaker 4: we're not going to be able to evaluate that till
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: we actually see it next Wednesday. So for Mike McDonald
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: to be a first year head, first time head coach,
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: not first year, first time head coach to have never
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: like done it here, learn from his mistakes and became
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: better at those. emphasized his strengths he never had that
- 1:17:38Speaker 4: experience for him to have been an assistant and a
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: young assistant and for him to have absorbed from all
- 1:17:47Speaker 4: the people he's working he's working with some good people
- 1:17:50Speaker 4: like oh i love that trait like he's not like
- 1:17:53Speaker 4: jim harbaugh not at all like jim harbaugh but he
- 1:17:57Speaker 4: absorbed everything he liked about jim harbaugh he's not like
- 1:18:01Speaker 4: john harbaugh but he absorbed everything he liked and i
- 1:18:04Speaker 4: think brigance OJ Berganz, who he highlighted when he passed away,
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: the Ravens coach, and brought him to tears earlier in
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: the season. Obviously, he stole things from him or absorbed
- 1:18:17Speaker 4: things from him that he wanted to enact whenever he
- 1:18:22Speaker 4: became a leader. He became the leader in the room.
- 1:18:26Speaker 4: And for him to have gone about that, that's like,
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: that is just like beyond comprehension to me. That your
- 1:18:35Speaker 4: first time as a head coach, you filtered out everything
- 1:18:39Speaker 4: that you wanted to be as a leader, and you
- 1:18:43Speaker 4: knew exactly how to relate to today's athlete as opposed
- 1:18:47Speaker 4: to making them relate to you. or a previous generation
- 1:18:52Speaker 4: and to do it without ever sacrificing like you said
- 1:18:56Speaker 4: your authority over everything it's mind-blowing to me it's mind-blowing
- 1:19:02Speaker 4: to me and obviously the hbo people fell in love
- 1:19:05Speaker 4: with our head coach and man count your lucky stars
- 1:19:10Speaker 4: that he's here and, and, and I just trust the
- 1:19:15Speaker 4: Coastalers and John Schneider to recognize what they have and
- 1:19:19Speaker 4: don't ever let him go.
- 1:19:20Speaker 7: No, please.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: Yeah, because he manages to also have confidence.
- 1:19:23Speaker 8: He knows exactly what he wants without being a dictator
- 1:19:25Speaker 8: about it, right? To be that young and have the
- 1:19:29Speaker 8: confidence coming into the first time you're ever doing the
- 1:19:32Speaker 8: job and have the confidence to say, no, this isn't
- 1:19:35Speaker 8: how it's going to go.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: This is how it's going to go.
- 1:19:37Speaker 8: I mean, we talk about those two moves he made
- 1:19:39Speaker 8: early on in his first year, dropping those two linebackers
- 1:19:42Speaker 8: and bringing in Ernest Jones.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: I mean, he knew right away.
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: Knew right away.
- 1:19:47Speaker 8: A lot of people wouldn't have the confidence to come
- 1:19:49Speaker 8: forth and make that change because you'd assume, oh, my
- 1:19:52Speaker 8: GM probably knew what he was doing.
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: I'm going to work with what he gave me.
- 1:19:55Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:19:56Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:19:57Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah. It's a perfect example. I can think of
- 1:20:00Speaker 4: another guy that should go to Mike McDonald leadership camp.
- 1:20:04Speaker 4: And I'm not going to mention any names because that
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: would be mean. I'll just say this. He's been compared
- 1:20:08Speaker 4: to a house plant this week.
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: Coming up next. Oh, gosh. I've saved this for now.
- 1:20:16Speaker 4: I've thought about this all the show long. So has Ashley,
- 1:20:21Speaker 4: I guarantee you.
- 1:20:22Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 1:20:23Speaker 4: And so we're going to find out what's going on.
- 1:20:25Speaker 4: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. But let's face it, the
- 1:20:28Speaker 4: college football season gets going this week, right? Tomorrow there
- 1:20:32Speaker 4: will be games. I don't know what it is about Rutgers.
- 1:20:34Speaker 4: Rutgers always plays like the first game of the year.
- 1:20:38Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a thing that they worked
- 1:20:40Speaker 4: out with the networks, but they play the first game.
- 1:20:44Speaker 4: of the first week of the college football season tomorrow.
- 1:20:48Speaker 4: There will be, I think, a couple Friday games and
- 1:20:51Speaker 4: then full slate on Saturday. And, of course, the Huskies
- 1:20:56Speaker 4: will play on Sunday the first game of the season,
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: the Apple Cup, which does continue to be weird for
- 1:21:03Speaker 4: everyone watching. Um, everybody's having the conversation this week about, uh,
- 1:21:07Speaker 4: just how much longer will this game last? I don't
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: think it will last much longer. I really don't. Rick
- 1:21:14Speaker 4: new eyes led a different opinion of that yesterday, uh,
- 1:21:17Speaker 4: at nine o'clock. He thinks that there's a will there's
- 1:21:20Speaker 4: a way, but, um, I don't know if there's really
- 1:21:23Speaker 4: a will. I think that there are downsides for both programs.
- 1:21:27Speaker 4: I don't see Coug nation being all that fired up
- 1:21:30Speaker 4: for the game anymore, but with the way that the
- 1:21:33Speaker 4: sport has changed with NIL and Transfer Portal. I mean,
- 1:21:36Speaker 4: the moment you get a Ryan Leaf to come to
- 1:21:40Speaker 4: Pullman and he shows he's one of the best quarterbacks
- 1:21:42Speaker 4: in the nation... How are you going to keep Ryan
- 1:21:44Speaker 4: Leaf if you're Washington State to help you beat the
- 1:21:48Speaker 4: Huskies that year? Things like that might not even exist
- 1:21:52Speaker 4: anymore in the sport for programs like Washington State. So
- 1:21:58Speaker 4: certainly the future looks a little bit grim in terms
- 1:22:01Speaker 4: of whether or not we're going to have many more
- 1:22:04Speaker 4: beyond the 118th playing of the Apple Cup. But we
- 1:22:08Speaker 4: have it right now. And as I've repeated numerous times
- 1:22:12Speaker 4: on this show, maybe this is the slot. Maybe this
- 1:22:16Speaker 4: is where you can save it. Um, maybe giving it
- 1:22:19Speaker 4: the texture of being on a Sunday night before the
- 1:22:23Speaker 4: NFL gets underway. Um, being, having a national platform, which
- 1:22:29Speaker 4: let's face it, you always had to compete with other
- 1:22:31Speaker 4: rivalry games, uh, in the past. So for it to
- 1:22:34Speaker 4: be the only show in town, maybe it gives it
- 1:22:37Speaker 4: a spark. Um, we shall see. Um, but it sounds like, like, uh,
- 1:22:42Speaker 4: From a financial standpoint, it's going to be difficult for
- 1:22:45Speaker 4: this to continue for Washington. And then from a competitive standpoint,
- 1:22:49Speaker 4: it feels like it's going to be difficult to continue
- 1:22:52Speaker 4: for the Cougs. And so we have Sunday that we
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: probably should hold precious because who knows how many more
- 1:22:58Speaker 4: of these we are going to get. Joining us now,
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: somebody that has played in an Apple Cup or four.
- 1:23:03Speaker 4: It is former Washington Huskies tight end and current voice
- 1:23:07Speaker 4: of the Dogs, Cam Cleland, is with us for another
- 1:23:10Speaker 4: college football season. Happy football to you, sir.
- 1:23:15Speaker 5: Happy week one.
- 1:23:16Speaker 3: I got to experience zero week last week, which is
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: weird in its own right when they call it zero week.
- 1:23:22Speaker 5: But happy week. Happy Apple Cup week, Chuck. What does
- 1:23:25Speaker 5: that mean for Apple Cup for you?
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: I mean, how does the Apple Cup feel for you?
- 1:23:29Speaker 5: You've been here long enough to taste it.
- 1:23:31Speaker 4: Well, yeah. I mean, I knew from afar. I mean,
- 1:23:35Speaker 4: it's a great game. It's a great rivalry and different
- 1:23:39Speaker 4: from other rivalries. But certainly once I moved here 11
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: years ago, I did understand and appreciate what made it
- 1:23:46Speaker 4: so special. But Cam, obviously we're having that special aspect
- 1:23:52Speaker 4: of it get kind of have bites taken out of
- 1:23:54Speaker 4: the apple here. and what makes it special. So I
- 1:23:57Speaker 4: would ask you, as somebody that obviously played in this
- 1:24:00Speaker 4: numerous times and has called many Apple Cups as a broadcaster,
- 1:24:05Speaker 4: can we hold on to it? Can we keep what's
- 1:24:07Speaker 4: special about it at all?
- 1:24:10Speaker 5: I really, you know, truthfully, I really hope so. I do.
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: I don't have any faith in a lot of college
- 1:24:18Speaker 3: football right now when it comes to decision-making.
- 1:24:21Speaker 5: There's a lot of stuff out there.
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: There's a lot of things with with just disorganization, I
- 1:24:26Speaker 3: know there needs to be, there needs to be a bottom.
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: And before we get back on track, I believe we've
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: reached the bottom in college football and how things, but
- 1:24:34Speaker 3: when we talk about just how much the Apple cup
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: met for years, I mean, I mean, how long this
- 1:24:39Speaker 3: rivalry has been around families, regions, one half of the
- 1:24:43Speaker 3: state versus the other kids that went, went from the
- 1:24:47Speaker 3: other side of the state and became Huskies and vice versa.
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: And so it does, it means a lot. There's, I
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: don't know if you would call it as much as
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: there's pure hatred anymore, but there's just a respectfulness of
- 1:25:00Speaker 3: the importance of each school and how important these schools
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: mean for football in this state. So, yeah, I do
- 1:25:05Speaker 3: value this rivalry, and I hope we find a way
- 1:25:08Speaker 3: to make it happen. It's strange enough, it's on a
- 1:25:11Speaker 3: Sunday this year, which... You know, I'm a traditionalist. I
- 1:25:14Speaker 3: hold sacred Fridays for high school, Saturday for college football,
- 1:25:18Speaker 3: and Sundays for the NFL. But what do I know?
- 1:25:20Speaker 3: I'm just an old, decrepit man now. I guess we've
- 1:25:23Speaker 3: got to deviate. Now it's the only day we don't
- 1:25:25Speaker 3: have it is Tuesdays and Wednesdays. So, okay, I guess
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: we'll deal with it.
- 1:25:30Speaker 4: Yeah, don't hold your breath. That might change, too.
- 1:25:32Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. I guess, yeah, that's a good point.
- 1:25:36Speaker 5: Very good point.
- 1:25:39Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about the game itself on Sunday. I'm
- 1:25:42Speaker 4: sure you've done some homework on the Cougs, and I'm
- 1:25:46Speaker 4: sure you're caught up to speed with what you're expecting
- 1:25:48Speaker 4: out of the Dogs this year. A lot of people
- 1:25:52Speaker 4: on the Cougs side fearing a blowout, and I think
- 1:25:57Speaker 4: a lot of people on the Huskies side hoping for
- 1:25:59Speaker 4: a blowout. Do we get a competitive game on Sunday,
- 1:26:03Speaker 4: or do fears and hopes come true?
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: I don't like, man, the predictions of this stuff because
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: it just always is, you know, talent, talent-wise. If you
- 1:26:15Speaker 3: want to break down a roster and go guy for guy, yeah.
- 1:26:19Speaker 3: I mean, but I've been on teams, Chuck, where the
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: talent has been swung one way or the other. And
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: then you have to throw out records, the cliches, throw
- 1:26:27Speaker 3: out records in a rivalry game. And what does it
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: mean for the Cougs coming out for their first time?
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: You've got a brand-new football coach. I mean, this is
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: three coaches. In three years for the Cougs. I mean,
- 1:26:38Speaker 3: some stability, that would be great. I mean, it's hard
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: enough to be able to manage a whole program, and
- 1:26:43Speaker 3: then you're changing over coaches, and you're looking at, you're
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: starting a new quarterback, who I got to see very
- 1:26:49Speaker 3: personally and got to know very, very well with Caden Pinnock.
- 1:26:52Speaker 3: He played at UC Davis where both my boys played,
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: so I got to know him, watch him play. An
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: incredible athlete. a freshman All-American. He was a big sky
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: player of the year, I think twice during the year,
- 1:27:03Speaker 3: threw for over 3,000 yards. He's a big-time talent, man.
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: And he came in and has taken over this offense.
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: And so he's been in Husky Stadium before. That was
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: last year. That was a tough game for everybody and
- 1:27:17Speaker 3: for himself. But, look, you mean to tell me that
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: the Cougs aren't going to come in and they're going
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: to be massively fired up to win this football game?
- 1:27:24Speaker 5: Of course not.
- 1:27:25Speaker 3: You know, Washington is– we hold what I would call–
- 1:27:28Speaker 3: you would call the pressure. This team is year three
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: in Jed Fish. He's got young players on the roster.
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: He's got four freshmen that are going to start on
- 1:27:37Speaker 3: the offense and defense. He's got his guys that are
- 1:27:40Speaker 3: in there that are now– and now you have DeMond
- 1:27:43Speaker 3: Williams with all that, his talent. new wide receiver core.
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: There's just a lot of things that we're going to see.
- 1:27:50Speaker 3: And this is why when I watch college football, everyone
- 1:27:53Speaker 3: always asks for predictions and say, what's this player going
- 1:27:55Speaker 3: to look like? What's this guy going to look like? Chuck,
- 1:27:58Speaker 3: I can't tell you that. And the reason why is
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: I haven't watched him play yet. And I need to
- 1:28:02Speaker 3: see what it looks like when the lights are on,
- 1:28:04Speaker 3: the pressure's on, the TV camera's on, and everybody's cheering.
- 1:28:08Speaker 3: I want to know what that kid looks like under that.
- 1:28:11Speaker 3: Practice can look great. But like Allen Iverson always said,
- 1:28:14Speaker 3: we talk in practice, man.
- 1:28:16Speaker 5: No, not the game. We got to play the games.
- 1:28:19Speaker 4: Yeah, got to play the games. And let's face it,
- 1:28:21Speaker 4: there's an element here. I mean, nobody has any film
- 1:28:24Speaker 4: on what Kirby Moore likes to do as a head coach.
- 1:28:26Speaker 4: I mean, you've got plenty of film on what Jed
- 1:28:28Speaker 4: Fish likes to do as a head coach. So that's
- 1:28:31Speaker 4: an unknown going into this game. Who knows if he's
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: going to be a young Chris Peterson with all the
- 1:28:36Speaker 4: trick plays in the world at his disposal. I mean,
- 1:28:38Speaker 4: you've got an idea of what kind of systems he's
- 1:28:40Speaker 4: going to run, but you never know what kind of
- 1:28:42Speaker 4: flavor he's going to bring. to the field in his
- 1:28:45Speaker 4: first game as head coach of the Cougs. So let's
- 1:28:49Speaker 4: talk about the dogs, and it must be music to
- 1:28:52Speaker 4: your ears in the Jed Fish era that when we
- 1:28:55Speaker 4: start evaluating the 2026 Huskies for the first time in
- 1:29:00Speaker 4: three years, we're talking about the strength being up front
- 1:29:03Speaker 4: on both the offense and defensive lines.
- 1:29:05Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:29:06Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm super excited about the offensive line and
- 1:29:11Speaker 3: the defensive line. I can just slightly digress and look
- 1:29:15Speaker 3: at the linebacker room. It might be the strongest room
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: in all of them, on all positions in this entire roster.
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: They are extremely deep. When we talk about guys up front,
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: if you go back to the first year of Jed Fish,
- 1:29:28Speaker 3: you see when he hit spring, he only had 10
- 1:29:30Speaker 3: healthy offensive linemen. Um, I mean, it might've been less
- 1:29:33Speaker 3: than that. It might've been eight when spring ball hit.
- 1:29:36Speaker 3: And now you're getting to see, I mean, not only
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: young talent and we're going to talk a lot about
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: Cody green throughout the year. He's a, he's a true
- 1:29:43Speaker 3: freshman at left tackle. We're going to see what he does.
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: I'm excited to do it.
- 1:29:48Speaker 8: I'd.
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: I think that when you're 18 and you get a
- 1:29:51Speaker 3: chance to fight up against some guys that are 22, 23,
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: some of these players are going.
- 1:29:55Speaker 5: To be out there.
- 1:29:56Speaker 3: It's going to be awakening a little bit. And I
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: know he welcomes the challenge. John Mills did it last year.
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: I mean, the trick– Here's taking over for center for
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: hopefully a healing Landon Hatchett, but I've watched him play
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: in practices. I've watched him play in the mock game.
- 1:30:10Speaker 5: And the scrimmage. He's wonderful.
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: He's excellent. He's got great size, great feet. And then,
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: of course, Champ takes over at right guard, and then
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: you have a Solworth with Drew as a party.
- 1:30:20Speaker 5: So these.
- 1:30:21Speaker 3: This offensive line is massive. This is the kind of
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: offensive line when you build something in the Big Ten
- 1:30:27Speaker 3: to be able to run the football, and that's what
- 1:30:29Speaker 3: we're going to have to do is run the football
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: in certain situations, and a lot of it. It may
- 1:30:33Speaker 3: not be as exciting sometimes, but you've seen what the
- 1:30:39Speaker 3: Big Ten has done in the three straight national championships.
- 1:30:42Speaker 3: They have been physical offensive line play and massive pass
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: rush offensively. just run stuffing defensive linemen. And that starts
- 1:30:50Speaker 3: with all the big guys up front. So yeah, I'm,
- 1:30:52Speaker 3: I think you win football in.
- 1:30:54Speaker 5: The line of scrimmage.
- 1:30:54Speaker 3: Anybody that says different doesn't know football. They don't, they
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: haven't received that logic yet.
- 1:31:01Speaker 4: And you would like to inject it in them.
- 1:31:04Speaker 3: I would like to make a small injection. It's not
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: fun to watch the offensive. It's not fun to watch
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: the defensive line, right? Everybody wants to see the stuff
- 1:31:10Speaker 3: on the outside. But you can't throw the ball unless
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: you have protection. You can't stop the run unless you
- 1:31:16Speaker 3: have eyes up front. Everything starts at the point of
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: attack with the line of scrimmage. I don't care how
- 1:31:22Speaker 3: fast you think your edge guys are.
- 1:31:24Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.
- 1:31:25Speaker 4: Cam Cleland is with us, voice of the Dawgs, former
- 1:31:27Speaker 4: Husky tight end, of course, in his segment this season. Again,
- 1:31:31Speaker 4: brought to you by Warrior Injury Law, battle-tested. DeMond Williams Jr.
- 1:31:36Speaker 4: enters his third year with the Huskies, barely. His second
- 1:31:41Speaker 4: year as a full-time starter. He physically looks different. He's
- 1:31:45Speaker 4: put on some really good weight heading into this year.
- 1:31:50Speaker 4: What do you want to see out of DeMond Williams Jr.
- 1:31:53Speaker 4: this year to take his game to another level?
- 1:31:57Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a couple things I'd love to see
- 1:31:59Speaker 3: from him this year, and I think I've mentioned it before,
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: but I'll regurgitate that because I'll start to watch it
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: throughout the season. Number one is accuracy. So high percentage accuracy.
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: To ask a quarterback at the college level to get
- 1:32:16Speaker 3: in the upper 70s, that's a lot to ask.
- 1:32:17Speaker 5: 75%, 78%. The last time we saw somebody like that
- 1:32:18Speaker 5: was Bo Nix, but that was.
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: In an Oregon offense, which had a lot of quick
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: throws and strikes and stuff like that. That's not what
- 1:32:30Speaker 3: Jed Fish runs. He runs a professional offense. It is
- 1:32:32Speaker 3: an NFL offense, NFL verbiage, all of that. But his
- 1:32:36Speaker 3: percentages need to be elevated. He needs to be close
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: to 68, 72% in that range. I know I'm putting
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: a benchmark number, but down the field throws accuracy, drives
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: extending third and sixes accuracy. We know what he can
- 1:32:53Speaker 3: do outside the pocket.
- 1:32:55Speaker 5: All of us have seen it. His threat.
- 1:32:57Speaker 3: That is terrifying for defenses. But when you go back
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: and you watch Tate versus Ohio State, you watch Tate
- 1:33:02Speaker 3: versus Michigan, you can see in those losses and those situations,
- 1:33:06Speaker 3: they made him try to beat you from the pocket.
- 1:33:08Speaker 3: They said, we're going to have a spy. We're going
- 1:33:10Speaker 3: to have guys that carousel around you to the outside.
- 1:33:13Speaker 3: We're not going to create mid-pressure up the middle and
- 1:33:17Speaker 3: allow you to escape. We're certainly not going to draw
- 1:33:20Speaker 3: six and seven guys, rush four, and then let you
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: delay and then get out and make constant scrambles. They
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: created a shell defense. And they tried to say, all right,
- 1:33:30Speaker 3: we'll stop, run a little bit, but we want DeMond
- 1:33:32Speaker 3: to beat you. So this is his chance to elevate
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: not only the intelligence of the throws, because the grasp
- 1:33:38Speaker 3: of the offense, by the time you're in third year,
- 1:33:40Speaker 3: you're You're at an elite level of knowledge. You should be.
- 1:33:47Speaker 3: It shouldn't be about what you don't know. Now it's
- 1:33:49Speaker 3: about the execution in spots that you have to get
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: better at. So I think that's what elevates him this
- 1:33:54Speaker 3: year is those accuracy, those win-from-the-pocket moments for this offense.
- 1:33:59Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd just like to see him have a really
- 1:34:02Speaker 4: great feel for when to run. I think he struggled
- 1:34:06Speaker 4: with that. He knows he can run, but that's what
- 1:34:09Speaker 4: I'd like to see in this second full year of
- 1:34:11Speaker 4: a starter, to have just a command of when it's
- 1:34:14Speaker 4: time to use your legs as the weapon they can be.
- 1:34:19Speaker 5: Yes.
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: And that's also, too, that's also a decision when you
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: look at it. It's important to understand this because his health,
- 1:34:26Speaker 3: the best ability of all talent is availability. When to
- 1:34:29Speaker 3: take a shot. There were some big hits last year.
- 1:34:31Speaker 3: There were some downfield shoulder shots. There were some hits
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: you're like, man, you cannot take that week in and
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: week out and expect to be able to maintain it.
- 1:34:39Speaker 3: So it's a good point by yourself is selective runs.
- 1:34:43Speaker 3: But a check down to a back, that's a three-yard
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: throw that turns into an eight, nine-yard gain. That's a
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: phenomenal play. And that's an easy, easy thing to do sometimes.
- 1:34:53Speaker 3: And you don't have to get too scared about it.
- 1:34:55Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Don't be scared. Cam Cleland, never scared. All right.
- 1:35:00Speaker 4: So your favorite personal Apple Cup memory, whether it was
- 1:35:04Speaker 4: on the field or off the field, what does your
- 1:35:09Speaker 4: brain go through your own scrapbook in your mind?
- 1:35:13Speaker 3: Well, we had some battles in my day back in– actually,
- 1:35:16Speaker 3: we had horses and carriages there, and everybody brought torches
- 1:35:19Speaker 3: to be.
- 1:35:19Speaker 5: Able to light the field.
- 1:35:20Speaker 3: So it was amazing we were able to see through
- 1:35:23Speaker 3: our leather helmets, but they did give me one bar
- 1:35:26Speaker 3: so I could see through it. No, I mean, we
- 1:35:29Speaker 3: had some great runs, man. We had a battle of
- 1:35:32Speaker 3: overtime over there in Pullman on a crappy– Omni turf
- 1:35:37Speaker 3: that they used to think that was actual turf, but
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: to win the first and get a chance to have
- 1:35:42Speaker 3: a pack 10 championship game in 1990, that was 96.
- 1:35:48Speaker 5: That was pretty important. I'm sorry. That was 95 that
- 1:35:50Speaker 5: we did that. And it'll walk off field goal.
- 1:35:52Speaker 3: So then, I mean, I think it's more about when
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: you go out on the field and you see those
- 1:35:56Speaker 3: other colors, it's like when the coots come out, they just,
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: that's coming down the tunnel. And I can't wait for
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: the say who, say what, and I'm going to keep
- 1:36:07Speaker 3: the PG version because, you.
- 1:36:08Speaker 5: Know, I'm a football guy. I might go to the
- 1:36:11Speaker 5: bad rate.
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: But the say who, say what chant in the tunnel
- 1:36:14Speaker 3: with the Cougs behind us, hearing that, seeing the color
- 1:36:17Speaker 3: of their jerseys, watching that, smelling that musty, football funk
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: that's in that tunnel when you're getting ready to come
- 1:36:27Speaker 3: out during apple cup that's i can still like i'm
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: getting a little twitch in my head sometimes and like
- 1:36:32Speaker 3: i could still hit somebody but i'm going to need
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: an ambulance those are the memories that i miss the
- 1:36:36Speaker 3: most and i loved about that game.
- 1:36:38Speaker 4: Yeah you're breaking in a brand new partner this year
- 1:36:41Speaker 4: you're the you're the veteran in the booth uh so
- 1:36:43Speaker 4: what how you feeling about uh elise joining you this year.
- 1:36:48Speaker 5: Look, she's been 21 years on that side. 22?
- 1:36:51Speaker 3: Gosh, man, don't ask me to recite numbers. That's a
- 1:36:54Speaker 3: little struggle. She's phenomenal. And crazy story. I've known Elise.
- 1:36:59Speaker 3: We were both freshmen together. We came in in 1993 together.
- 1:37:03Speaker 5: She was basketball. I was football.
- 1:37:05Speaker 3: Her and my wife, Mindy, were college roommates. Of course,
- 1:37:09Speaker 3: my wife played both softball and basketball. We've known Elise
- 1:37:13Speaker 3: and Troy and their family and their two boys.
- 1:37:15Speaker 5: We've known them forever. And What an amazing opportunity for her.
- 1:37:21Speaker 3: She's an incredible, I mean, I don't want to say
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: the consummate professional, but you don't want to talk about
- 1:37:25Speaker 3: somebody that's as skilled as anybody. So I'm excited for her.
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: And we're just going to be, let me think about this.
- 1:37:31Speaker 3: We're two old dogs.
- 1:37:32Speaker 5: Now I'm old. Women age gracefully. There's no numbers. Guys,
- 1:37:36Speaker 5: I'm old.
- 1:37:38Speaker 3: But we're up there. We're just going to be two
- 1:37:39Speaker 3: former athletes, two former real Huskies, where if you prick
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: this open and be some.
- 1:37:43Speaker 5: Purple and that's what we're doing. Yeah.
- 1:37:46Speaker 3: And then we're going to throw some crazy dude that
- 1:37:48Speaker 3: you work with on the sidelines. He's going to be
- 1:37:50Speaker 3: down there too. So it's going to be, it's going
- 1:37:53Speaker 3: to be a gong show. I'm just going to tell you,
- 1:37:55Speaker 3: just bear with us, everybody. We're going to try our best.
- 1:37:59Speaker 4: Well, what did you do? I hopefully you worked on
- 1:38:00Speaker 4: your game, you know, um, coming into the best broadcasting
- 1:38:03Speaker 4: shape of your life. Uh, I hope you did your
- 1:38:06Speaker 4: part this offseason to make sure that you're a top voice.
- 1:38:10Speaker 5: Yeah, I did. I gargled with salt water. I recited red, yellow,
- 1:38:17Speaker 5: what is that? I don't know. My voice. Whatever.
- 1:38:21Speaker 4: The arsonist had webbed feet.
- 1:38:24Speaker 7: Yes.
- 1:38:25Speaker 5: Deep pronunciations of the bass.
- 1:38:29Speaker 3: That's what Lisa's like. can just talk like that sometimes.
- 1:38:32Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm going to scare everybody. They're going
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: to think I'm off in left field. No, man, I'm
- 1:38:38Speaker 3: looking forward to it. When football season is back, it's just,
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: I mean, every day I just think about it.
- 1:38:43Speaker 5: It's spectacular.
- 1:38:44Speaker 4: Well, we're excited to have you back every Wednesday this year.
- 1:38:48Speaker 4: That's going to be good for us. and excited to
- 1:38:50Speaker 4: hear you on the call on Sunday. So thank you
- 1:38:53Speaker 4: very much, sir. Have a fun, great football season, and
- 1:38:56Speaker 4: we'll talk to you real soon.
- 1:38:59Speaker 5: I appreciate it. We'll talk soon. Thanks, man.
- 1:39:00Speaker 6: All right.
- 1:39:01Speaker 4: There he is, Cam Cleland, joining us right here on
- 1:39:04Speaker 4: the radio program. And of course, this segment this year
- 1:39:08Speaker 4: brought to you by Warrior Injury Law, led by attorney
- 1:39:10Speaker 4: Rob Ibbins, a fifth-generation Pacific Northwesterner Marine Corps veteran, ass-kicker,
- 1:39:17Speaker 4: And UW graduate, if you've been injured, call 253-WARRIOR. Warrior
- 1:39:22Speaker 4: injury law battle tested. All right, now it feels like
- 1:39:26Speaker 4: Husky season can begin.
- 1:39:27Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.
- 1:39:29Speaker 4: Yeah, we've talked to Cam. We'll talk to Softie tomorrow
- 1:39:31Speaker 4: on the show. And yes, here we go. Football season
- 1:39:34Speaker 4: is here. But we're not quite done with baseball season.
- 1:39:39Speaker 4: And that means ABCs of the M's next on KJR.