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Midsommar · The Art of Costume Podcast

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  Oh my gosh. What if they almost made it?
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  Like a Chia dress low? That would be cool too.
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  That would be cool. I'm sorry.
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  I just thought that like have the root systems like, within
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  the okay. Anyway, yeah, it's not shocking
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  to me that it's not real flowers.
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  That doesn't there's a lot of things that don't make sense
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  about this movie, but that really doesn't make sense now.
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  Yeah, Hello and welcome to Heart of costume.
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  Blockhouse time has no choice glass and I'm the making Spencer
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  Williams. Spencer, we should have had
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  flower crowns for this episode. I know what were we thinking?
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  I don't know, I don't know. I was looking at the flower
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  crowns and Midsummer and I was like, oh I need, I need these, I
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  need these. Why do these ever go out of
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  style? They never should, it's because
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  the Coachella era kind of ruined it a little bit.
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  You know, damn, it's so hard on flower.
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  Crowns true. But then I see like like video
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  from Florence and the Machine concerts and everybody has
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  flower crowns there too. And I'm like, I want to be one
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  of those people. All right.
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  Well, let's do it. You're coming in October, so
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  let's make super goth flower crowns.
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  The night before. Hell yeah.
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  You gonna be shy, just stitching flowers to be happy with
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  Elizabeth Weir. At the end of her hot girl
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  summer. We are, we are and we have the
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  hottest, this steamiest, hot girl summer episode.
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  Spencer, what did we watch this week?
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  This week? I'm so excited that I convinced
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  Elizabeth to watch this. We watch the midsummer everyone
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  whoo-hoo, well as iMovie. I knew it was a risky choice for
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  gain Elizabeth to watch. But it's such.
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  This is one of those films. That's so popular right now, for
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  some reason gen Z loves this movie, which I mean, it's an
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  amazing movie. I love it too.
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  Yes. But it's just like becoming such
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  a like cult classic and it's going to be one of those movies
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  that's, you know, recognized for its costume, design gears down
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  the road even though it wasn't nominated for Academy Award but
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  you know yeah I wonder if because it's kind of going right
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  now with social media and everything.
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  I feel like gen Z Has a very hard time connecting with people
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  and like, display, like showing real.
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  They're real emotions. We just kind of what Danny is
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  struggling with. She's like struggling to connect
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  with her boyfriend, she's struggling to connect with his
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  friends. She feels like she has to like
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  hold all of her like grief in until the very end.
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  Where she's with a group of people who says like, hey, it's
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  okay to scream and be upset about Thing, and we'll be right
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  here with you supporting you through that.
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  Well, it's funny because this entire film makes me want to
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  scream and entire time, it's so horrific.
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  But Florence Pew, absolutely kills it.
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  And this guy does she does is like her Masterpiece and the
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  costumes are top tier. It does not get better, some
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  very excited to talk about it. I'm so excited to talk about it.
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  Let's jump into it. Spencer.
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  That summary. All right, in the middle of an
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  imaginable loss and a relationship, she knows is
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  clearly over Danny. Finds herself in a Swedish.
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  Commune that follows ancient traditions and seems to have
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  everything she didn't know she needed and that is Midsummer.
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  He haven't seen Midsummer at go right at somewhere, it's for
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  rent while we watched it on Showtime.
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  Is that where we watched it? Yes, we did because I watched on
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  Jean only because I was too lazy to look at your Showtime.
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  Login details. Is that horrible?
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  Yes. You want to lose even more
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  horrible Spencer, I subscribe to it through my Amazon account,
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  which you do have the credentials today into.
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  I didn't notice that. I did not notice that.
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  I just hate typing on, you know, like TVs when you have the
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  remote and you have to like spell out your entire email
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  address there. It makes me crazy.
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  I literally want to die doing. That's fair.
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  That is like the number one problem with streaming services,
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  is their login process. Yes.
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  Oh yeah. Unless you're doing the like,
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  logging on your computer, but I'm like, it's exactly.
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  For this purpose? Yes.
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  Not muster up. It's so exhausting and then
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  like, you forget your mom's Netflix password and I have to
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  do it like multiple times 0 sweating off haters.
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  Like, when am I gonna get kicked out of this account?
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  Yeah, so last night when I was watching midsummer's, like I'll
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  just rent it. Here's 399.
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  You're like take my money. Anyway, don't steal.
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  Don't steal people's login, information and use it for your
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  own. Oh yeah, we know.
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  No, no, don't do that. Don't pirate definitely don't
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  pirate. That's my number one don't do.
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  Definitely do not pirate unless you're taika waititi.
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  Then yes we'll talk about it. Yeah.
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  Then that's a different kind of pirating.
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  Don't pirate TV shows and movies though.
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  That's not classy. That's old school.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Anyway, going behind the Wardrobe.
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  We have director Mary Astor and costume designer.
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  Andrea flesh, her Noble works. Are this series X company
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  Colette and operation mincemeat which actually looks pretty
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  interesting. My dad's been watching it.
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  That's awesome. I never heard of it, but the
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  title sounds crazy. I think it's, I think it's based
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  off like a true world. Or two-story.
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  I'm not positive. I don't know.
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  It's that era. Well, it's the end as far as
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  underrated costume designers. Go andreea flask, is it?
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  I mean, it's she kills it with this film.
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  I mean, it's to me, it's like Crimson Peak Dracula level
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  costuming. This film is absolutely.
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  Absolutely. And like Dracula, it was a joint
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  effort between all the Departments.
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  Andrea said to bustle. All these costumes are not
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  coming from some original historic, historic thing, but
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  also Heinrich seven, son. The production designer, we work
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  very closely. Sometimes his designs inspired
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  me, or sometimes he asked me to design a costume and then He
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  adjusted his designs to the costume.
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  And a lot of people were helping us the people who drew the
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  runes, all the paintings on the All these paintings inspired me
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  and I use motifs from them on the costumes, which I was like,
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  when they walk into like the communal like lodging, I was
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  like a gorgeous. Like I would Airbnb a bet.
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  They're like, I'll risk the ritual murder.
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  I'm tempted to say, I'll go with you but I don't know.
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  All you have to do is like be nice them and not like insult
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  their Traditions. I think that was everybody
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  else's problem. Yeah, maybe I don't know, I'd
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  have to be convinced but as, you know, I'm very easily convinced.
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  I mean, as I said, if I ever do truly have a mental breakdown,
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  this is where I'm going but it's you see it and it's beautiful.
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  And then we do get close-up shots of these paintings on the
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  on the All's and I was kind of shocked like how similar they
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  were to the costumes. Yeah it makes you wonder like
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  what can first production designer costume?
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  Designing sounds like it was happening at the same time which
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  is really cool. It was like back and forth back
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  and forth and I'm like, I love that.
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  That's how films should be made. Yeah, I'm shocked that she said
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  that this isn't based off some historical thing because he
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  would think like this is very like referencing a lot of
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  cultural history. But if They just created this.
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  That's even more incredible. Well Spencer I think we were
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  both ready for a break and when we get back I think I'm going to
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  answer some of those questions for you.
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  And some of the flowers are starting to move.
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  So I need to go lay down. Hello.
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  Blogcast listeners is Elizabeth Joy glass co host and producer
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  All right. Elizabeth are you ready for your
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  dreams to come true and go visit the Harga?
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  I also write a visit the Harga Spencer so ready.
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  And so is Andrea. She was ready to get into this
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  Swedish comuoon. She said that to bustle that
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  already knew that. Wanted to have the Hargett and
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  white and also that we have to do close as possible to Swedish
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  folk costumes, which at first glance, that is what they
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  absolutely did. However, Andrew found after some
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  research that Sweden doesn't really have any more of those
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  kind of costumes or materials and then because of Sweden's
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  apparently, Like strict filming restrictions the production
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  decided to Branch out and shoot in hungry instead of Sweden.
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  And Andrea also decided to Branch out with her research.
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  She said to bustle, I found out that folklore in the whole world
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  has something in common. So I started to search, the
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  whole world, what our similarities, and Swedish folk
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  and other folk and I found a lot.
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  So the Russians were were my idea to use other countries folk
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  costumes, which are similar? Because there's this idea that
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  everything is one in the end, which that really ties in to the
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  story. Yeah, that's that's very
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  interesting and kind of shatters my entire world, like, right?
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  A lot happening here, and I'm obsessed with it.
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  Which, you know, that makes sense.
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  I mean, all, like those European countries, Are all right next to
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  each other but they also have their own folk Traditions so
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  it's like yeah they're all going to be a little similar and have
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  like you know some similar like flavors and styles to draw from
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  but one of the Fantastic things about filming and hungry where
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  their resources Andrea told bustle, here you can find all
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  the Fabrics. So I bought tons of
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  hundred-year-old linen fabric Embroidery and I tried to find
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  embroideries in Eastern Europe which looked like they could
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  also be Swedish, that is crazy. So they're like, okay, we're
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  shooting at hungry and she's like, okay, let me, let me see
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  what's going on and hungry and she's like, oh, hundred-year-old
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  linen and linen, embroidered he. Come on.
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  Yeah, this is nice. Isn't that wild?
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  Some of these costumes are good like 100 years old.
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  Technically, I love That it's just feels so real and authentic
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  and like, looking at their costumes, it's very convincing.
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  It's a very believable. Absolutely.
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  And also, what I love about it, the fact that it pulls from so
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  many different countries. You know, I've talked to Whitney
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  and Adams about this to who we had on for an episode Back in
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  the Day, who did a costumes for Paranormal Activity, the most
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  recent one, where they dive into a cult, and it's crazy because
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  they are, they're trying to portray themselves.
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  The Amish. But they're actually like this
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  pretty sick Cole and it's kind of interesting now, thinking
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  about like this, you know, comuoon is definitely giving
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  like cultish Vibes. Yeah.
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  You think that they're like, oh, it's just like another Swedish
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  comuoon but something totally different.
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  That's almost appearing as something to the outside world.
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  When it's something totally different.
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  Yeah. Well, what I find interesting
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  about the Harga is they have been there.
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  Hundred plus years. Yeah.
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  Like it's not like, they're like modern.
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  Swedish people who decided to revert back to older Traditions.
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  They just, they never lost their old traditions.
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  They've just learned to hide them from the rest of the world.
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  So that's what I kind of find interesting about them.
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  Also, like we said all their embroidery, all their costumes,
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  all look very authentic and Andrea said to deadline In that
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  the costumes it should look like they do their costumes
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  themselves and everybody has his own costume.
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  That's why it was also very important that all the costumes
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  looked different. Some of them are better made
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  some of them less to see the difference.
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  It's not come out from a fashion house or a factory.
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  So she's right. She's like these people,
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  everybody made their own thing or it's like their wife made
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  there. Are you know Midsummer costumes
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  they all they all made their own.
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  The embroidery is just amazing. Every time you see it go across
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  the screen. You like wow that is stunning,
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  the craftsmanship. Yes I bet you Andrews team was
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  Hardcore. Absolutely.
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  She actually talked to bustle about the embroidery, she said
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  we used a lot of original embroidery which we copied and
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  shaped and we also made a lot of You embroidery, there are very
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  good people in Hungary, who can make it.
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  So she just got all these Hungarian embroiderers and we're
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  like go wild. I also love these shoes, she I
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  ended up not being able to find the quote but she mentioned in
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  one of the interviews that some not everybody's but some of them
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  had runes on their shoes and I believe this is a set from the
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  movie where it's like even the shoes, even the shoes, not their
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  little runes on them, the attention to detail is amazing.
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  And can I just point out like all the hats we saw throughout
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  this film or my gosh, headpieces I'm not you're talking about the
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  flower crowns. I'm talking about like just the
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  hat like this red piece. That's so good.
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  That woman. Who's like the Master of
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  Ceremonies? Yeah, she looked incredible the
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  whole time. Yeah.
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  And I was like ooh girl. Creepy guys that go into like
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  the barn and whatnot. They have like this drink hats.
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  They're just I guess their Mark mask covering their face.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Spooky. But like also so Chic and like
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  can I get to work, they had style, the Harga has style do,
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  they wouldn't admit it beat and I know but they definitely do.
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  Also I mentioned this at the beginning, but they go through
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  the Hargett go through kind of a color transformation.
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  And Andrea talked about this two deadlines.
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  She said the concept was that we started the movie All In White
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  and as we go further through these seven feasts, everybody,
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  dresses up, more and more colorful than every Feast had a
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  color. I don't know how much you can
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  see this in the movie, but the idea was that first we'd use
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  only red, then we put some blue, and then some yellow, then some
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  green. In the end, all the colors, come
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  together. Yes, I noticed that too and I
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  love it. So I have the picture from the
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  first sacrifice question mark where?
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  Yeah everyone's pretty much all in white.
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  There is some blue embroidery here and there there is some red
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  embroidery, you can also see someone with gold embroidery,
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  which she did talk about a little like you know how they
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  talk about, like the four seasons of life.
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  They did kind of a scribe like a color to each, she didn't really
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  go into in depth in it which I Sky did.
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  So I didn't add that they believe what is death and like
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  the this winter season. Mmm.
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  Yeah. So which all the people who are
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  about to die. Yikes.
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  Yeah I definitely noticed that like looking at that first Cliff
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  scene which we have to talk about in a second everyone's
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  wearing white but then one of the characters who No, she just
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  hooked up with Danny's man. She's like handful like floral
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  print with red and green in it at the end of it.
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  Yeah. The actress's name is Isabel
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  Grill. Who's incredible in this film?
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  Yes, stunning as she's like a full floral print, so it's cool.
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  I love it, it's so good. And I love the scene where
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  they're all crying with Danny because they all have they all
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  have, like, all these He's flower embroiders on different
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  colors, like everyone is Decked Out by that last day, decked,
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  out by the time, it is time to decide the May Queen Spencer
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  after our break. Are you ready to talk about
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  before? We think iconic before we take a
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  break? I wish I could pay money to see
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  your reaction when the cliff scene happened.
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  Like I do So, you didn't text me and say I'm good, it sounds, I
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  firmly believed. I was never going to watch this
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  movie and one of my favorite podcast, the horror virgin did
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  an episode on this movie and they talk about their movies,
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  like scene by scene. So, I pretty much already knew
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  what happened. You're mentally prepared.
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  I was mentally prepared was not mentally prepared quite for how
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  graphic it was. Was yeah, it's pretty hardcore.
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  That took me aback to take me back a little bit.
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  I think it was at that point, that I started multitasking and
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  playing Animal Crossing. But yeah, I was a little more
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  prepared for this. I think, than most people put up
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  is so stressful. Yeah, very stressful.
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  I do not know how gen Z it's mostly.
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  I'm saying gen Z because I have a lot of gen Z friends who have
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  told me this. It's not, I'm not making this up
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  who, like have the sensor Comfort movie.
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  They like, have it on in the background.
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  I'm like, it's sick. Granted.
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  I do watch like animal attack documentaries when I'm trying to
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  relax and do like work. So yeah.
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  But that isn't people murdering and sacrificing other people.
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  That's just a mountain lions murdering and attacking people.
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  Yeah, that's nature. Yeah, let's take a break.
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  I it's getting hot. What's up costume, nerds?
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  Spencer, are you ready for a bear of a costume costume?
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  Still gives me the chills I was. Yeah, I've seen this movie a few
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  times and I was at my desk and I But I was also multitasking to
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  like help lifting xiety and I could hear the like a bear
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  dissection happening behind me and I was like, I'm not I'm not
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  prepared. So I from that podcast I kind of
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  thought like they knocked him out and then he was just in the
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  bear costume. I didn't realize he was like
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  awake and watching the whole process.
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  Yeah, I'm glad that they didn't show them like stuffing.
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  This poor guy into the bear costume.
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  Yeah, Granite. I do not like this character.
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  I thought he was. He's a jackass.
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  Yeah, he was a piece of work. He was a interesting guy but the
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  idea of stuffing this man into a bear suit.
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  Really gives you the Yankees. Yeah.
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  Andrea talked a little bit to bustle just kind of about the
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  sacrifices and ceremonies she said it was always idea that the
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  people who will die. They will wear gold because he
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  created a color code, the whole film starts in white.
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  The first ceremony they were blue and gold and gold always
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  comes back. When somebody dies, the May
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  Queen ceremony it was green of course.
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  And the animal sacrifice was red and as we go further more and
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  more colors and the color becomes more intense in the
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  final ceremony. Yes.
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  Which absolutely. Absolutely it's intense spec
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  going back to the bear. Like I don't know how this
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  happened. It's so crazy to me.
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  I don't know how they did this. I know a Vanity Fair article.
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  Talks a little bit about it. They didn't quote her directly,
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  but it was a it was an artificial piece made from Furs
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  by a separate. Gary and Prosthetics team and
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  she said it took weeks and weeks so shocking.
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  I couldn't figure out if it was like synthetic fur because she
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  just say it's artificial or if they just took like multiple
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  bear hides. Oh no, I'm put it together.
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  It looks so realistic but well it's it ties crazy.
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  There are really good synthetic first now though.
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  Yeah I mean that the characters face When he's just stuck in a
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  bear costume. That's my face entire movie
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  basically. Yes, I think that's everybody's
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  facing time. He really deserved it though.
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  I'm like I get that. You don't want to break up with
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  a girl. After her whole family is
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  murdered by her sister. Who commits suicide?
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  Mattock 15 minutes of the beginning.
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  Yes. But if I was him like after the
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  first like month or so I would have been like, hey clearly this
• 25:18
  isn't going anywhere. Because he clearly like I think
• 25:22
  he does want to be there for her but I would have been like, hey
• 25:26
  I understand something horrible. Just happens.
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  I think we both know. This relationship isn't going
• 25:31
  anywhere. I'll still be here for you but
• 25:34
  like this is over like romantically this is over.
• 25:40
  I think they just need a bear hug it out.
• 25:42
  You know. I think she was trying and he
• 25:44
  just and his terrible Friends, the one terrible friend, the one
• 25:48
  guy who, Who was that guy? Again, he's in a bunch of movies
• 25:52
  at timeout, Will Poulter. Yeah.
• 25:55
  It's going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
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  Yeah, I like him as an actor. He's a terrible individual in
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  this movie. Yeah, I forgot about his face
• 26:05
  face mask moment that that really set me back.
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  My gosh. Yeah sleeping sleeping
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  Department. He's like the look just the what
• 26:14
  everybody thinks American tourists are.
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  Yeah I mean it's true. All right.
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  Is the bear image off the screen.
• 26:21
  I can't look sure. Yeah, that's cuddly.
• 26:25
  Now, we will happily don't want to look at it anymore.
• 26:28
  How about some flower crowns? Lens Spencer it actually is.
• 26:33
  That's, that's what's crazy about is looking at Florence Pew
• 26:38
  and he's costumes is refreshing to look at.
• 26:40
  It's just like, so visually pleasing.
• 26:43
  It's so visually pleasing and I love like we see flower crowns
• 26:47
  throughout the entire movie. Especially remember in the
• 26:53
  northmen episode I mentioned that like that's like an Eastern
• 26:57
  European tradition. Yeah, it's the flower crowns.
• 27:00
  So you see them like throughout from the very first day onward
• 27:04
  but then Danny and dislikes single day she goes from like
• 27:08
  the standard like oh I'm in the make Queen competition flower
• 27:14
  crown to this one that looks like they put a basket of
• 27:18
  flowers made of flour. On her head.
• 27:21
  Yeah, like that's what it looks like with this like flower bib.
• 27:25
  That's adorable. It's adorable.
• 27:27
  And it works perfectly against a white cat.
• 27:30
  It's just so beautiful and the breathing of the flowers because
• 27:34
  everyone's High AF in this film really trips me out.
• 27:39
  I was like, ooh, let's go visit, uh-huh!
• 27:45
  Yes, but then I love how it slowly but also very quickly
• 27:49
  builds To her May Queen gown, which is just it's just flowers.
• 27:56
  Andrea says, in her interview with bustle that they wanted her
• 28:00
  to look like, she had put a meadow on, and it's like, she
• 28:03
  does, she does. This is one of the most iconic
• 28:08
  costumes in history and I've had the pleasure when you come out
• 28:13
  was with we have to go. See it's currently at the
• 28:16
  Academy Museum and its full Glory.
• 28:18
  Yeah, I have this. Right behind me on the wall is
• 28:22
  so beautiful in person. I mean, the screen obviously
• 28:26
  does it serious justice? But just seeing it in person.
• 28:29
  Like I've seen people cry in the museum, just standing around it.
• 28:33
  It's so. Oh my gosh, I can't wait to see
• 28:35
  it. So Andrea said to Vanity Fair
• 28:39
  about making the dress, the idea the first idea was, of course,
• 28:44
  to make it from real flowers but because it took so long to make,
• 28:50
  Make it was not possible. It's like, yeah, that's so funny
• 28:54
  to like. That should be dead by tomorrow.
• 28:56
  Yeah, because I'm like, like, sure, you can dip flowers and
• 29:00
  wax and that they last longer. But it's like not doesn't look
• 29:04
  the same. Come on, that's not gonna work.
• 29:07
  Oh my gosh. What if they almost made it?
• 29:09
  Like a Chia dress, though? Oh, that would be cool to.
• 29:13
  That would be cool. I'm sorry.
• 29:15
  It's not that like have the root systems like within the okay.
• 29:19
  Anyway. Yeah, it's not shocking to me
• 29:24
  that it's not real flowers. That doesn't there's a lot of
• 29:27
  things that don't make sense about this movie, but that
• 29:30
  really doesn't make sense. No, yeah, that would not have
• 29:34
  made sense. She told bustle, what they did
• 29:38
  instead. She said we made this dress from
• 29:41
  around 10,000 silk flowers. First, we had to make a pattern
• 29:45
  for the base of the dress and under the dress.
• 29:49
  There was like Hoop skirt, to give it the contraction, she can
• 29:53
  really wear it which is like, okay, that makes sense.
• 29:57
  I did not expect her to move at all in this dress.
• 30:01
  I thought she was just going to stand there, looking pretty.
• 30:04
  And then she's like screaming and like walking around and I
• 30:07
  was like, oh, that's my favorite, like five seconds in
• 30:11
  the well, it's longer than that. That's my favorite part of the
• 30:13
  entire film is when she's walking in it because that's
• 30:15
  what you think too, as like a costume designer.
• 30:18
  Like, there's no way that thing moves, Is it would fall apart is
• 30:21
  and then she starts walking like, whoa, that's intense.
• 30:25
  Yeah, no, it was so heavy. They had to give Florence Pew.
• 30:30
  A chair to sit on underneath it. Oh, I'm sure like in between
• 30:34
  takes, yeah, they're like here's a stool.
• 30:37
  I'm sure she sat in that costume for hours and hours and hours.
• 30:41
  So she was probably so hot. Yeah, somebody probably not.
• 30:46
  So, we're just like nothing underneath it, though.
• 30:48
  Probably like, It's one of the most beautiful costumes ever and
• 30:52
  the crown is so interesting too because it's not like a regular
• 30:55
  Crown. Its I loved all were like spires
• 30:58
  coming off of it. Yeah it's almost like branches
• 31:02
  of a tree like growing up. That's what I thought it looked
• 31:07
  like. Yeah that sounds like of course
• 31:09
  there's four for the Four Seasons that they're
• 31:12
  celebrating. But Andrea talked about the
• 31:15
  crown a little bit to Vanity Fair.
• 31:18
  She said like the dress Is it also became very heavy the
• 31:22
  flower crown in the end it was very hard for Florence to wear
• 31:28
  it. The original design wouldn't
• 31:30
  even stay on pues head. It was incredibly beautiful but
• 31:36
  we had to make it smaller. Like what was the original idea?
• 31:42
  Like like could Mahler smaller than this?
• 31:45
  This is huge because I'm even looking at the like, This catch
• 31:51
  it doesn't look bad. Like it doesn't look crazy.
• 31:54
  That looks more practical than what they did.
• 31:56
  Honestly, I don't know. But yeah, that's difficult.
• 32:01
  I can't imagine. I've seen some people on Tick
• 32:04
  Tock just going to shout it out. Some people would say like oh
• 32:07
  this is impressive, it's just a bunch of flowers thrown
• 32:10
  together. Clearly, these people have no
• 32:13
  concept of how costume design work.
• 32:15
  No, I'm sure this took hours weeks, lots of Preparation.
• 32:21
  It is Art. This is just top-tier costuming
• 32:24
  guy. Her entire team was sewing and
• 32:27
  gluing these flowers on and like honestly to get an artificial
• 32:32
  flower. That looks that real is
• 32:34
  extremely expensive. Yeah.
• 32:37
  It's not cheap or easy to make fake flowers.
• 32:41
  Look that real. Because honestly, like, I didn't
• 32:43
  even really question whether or not they were fake.
• 32:47
  And when I, when I read that I was like It makes complete sense
• 32:51
  but still kind of blew my mind. Yeah.
• 32:53
  Because it looks so good because it's such like a wild assortment
• 32:57
  of flowers to like there's no part of the dress that's like
• 33:00
  similar. It's you know, various sorted
• 33:03
  know and it's aesthetically pleasing.
• 33:06
  Yeah. It's like it's Alexander McQueen
• 33:09
  to me. It's just like what's more
• 33:12
  impressive to me than anything is a fact that survived two that
• 33:16
  she was able to walk in it. That's a me.
• 33:18
  The fact that didn't Fall apart. You know wasn't just hot glued
• 33:23
  because this is just hot glue. She would be leaving a trail
• 33:25
  behind her. This thing survived and is in a
• 33:28
  museum. Yeah.
• 33:30
  Like within within less than five years, it became so iconic
• 33:34
  that they put it in a museum, right?
• 33:39
  And I believe it's next to a Joan Crawford costume.
• 33:42
  Like yeah, down the hall from The Wizard of Oz.
• 33:46
  Honestly, Jen's ears are probably more familiar with
• 33:49
  this. Then with the ruby slippers.
• 33:52
  Yeah. Which like fair and fair.
• 33:55
  Yeah, I'm not a Wizard of Oz person myself.
• 33:58
  So I really liked it when I was a kid.
• 34:00
  I don't know why me too but I think that's because that's all
• 34:03
  we were probably allowed to watch back then, you know, I
• 34:06
  also was the age of DVDs. We didn't have a lot of
• 34:09
  malleable to us, but all in all I just think this film is
• 34:14
  incredible and that met Queen costume is just will always
• 34:18
  remain iconic. I just Was this even nominated
• 34:22
  for Academy Award? I don't know.
• 34:23
  But I think no, that's a shame. It should have been because this
• 34:27
  was a lot of very well thought out, well, constructed
• 34:32
  thoughtful costumes. Yeah, it should have been
• 34:34
  nominated for sure. Elizabeth, do you wanna play our
• 34:38
  favorite game even though I feel like there's no point the one
• 34:45
  costume to rule them all? There is only one costume to
• 34:55
  rule them all this week is the May Queen gown.
• 35:00
  A little Spencer's, not even trying to argue with me.
• 35:03
  No, isn't that you? Let me give my answer because we
• 35:06
  both know, it's, there's only one choice.
• 35:09
  There's only one choice to. Let's get real.
• 35:11
  All of the people from outside. The community looked kind of
• 35:15
  trashy. Yeah, they were American
• 35:19
  Tourist, you know, which hey, I've been there.
• 35:22
  Man, I never pull out my greatest fashion going on trip,
• 35:28
  it's know my but when we went to Australia, my parents were
• 35:31
  really happy because someone thought we were Canadian.
• 35:35
  That's nice. We're like, we can like, we did
• 35:37
  something right. Um, but yeah, like everyone not
• 35:41
  from the Communist looks kind of trashy, everyone in the
• 35:44
  Communist looks incredible, but then this is just on another
• 35:48
  level and like I said, within five years, Enough to be in a
• 35:53
  museum. So, yeah, it's the May Queen.
• 35:56
  It's yeah, it's probably one costume, rule them all, like, of
• 36:01
  them all, you know, like, yeah, if we were to do it one costume
• 36:04
  to rule them all competition, this one would probably jump to
• 36:07
  the top. It would be in the top five, for
• 36:10
  sure like this and the Lucy down would be neck and neck.
• 36:16
  Yeah. Oh, that would be a fee.
• 36:18
  Real Lucy Bram. Stoker's Dracula Vibes.
• 36:21
  We should do. Like contest on Instagram see
• 36:25
  you know, find it out of the saddle.
• 36:26
  Yeah, we didn't have it. We don't have enough red dresses
• 36:29
  this year. We have to figure out something
• 36:31
  else, right? Elizabeth.
• 36:34
  I'm so glad you watched this. I know it's crazy, but like it
• 36:37
  really packs, its punches with the costumes.
• 36:40
  It does, it does. If you want to give us your
• 36:43
  opinions about this wild wild movie and support.
• 36:48
  Our fact that the May Queen gown is the one costume to rule them
• 36:51
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• 36:58
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• 37:00
  as long as you like the answering system might shut you
• 37:04
  off but you know, we'll listen to it.
• 37:07
  Tell us how the May queen dress makes you feel.
• 37:11
  I am feeling a little sad though because our hot girl summer is
• 37:15
  officially over but honestly, we're moving into our favorite
• 37:19
  season. We are we Hot girl, summer, has
• 37:24
  cooled down and Spencer. We are heading into pre spooky
• 37:29
  season. Spencer, what are we watching
• 37:32
  next week? So we're taking it slow as we
• 37:35
  move into spooky season. It's not quite Halloween yet,
• 37:38
  but so we're starting off slow, which is why we did Midsummer to
• 37:41
  kind of Step our toes into the water.
• 37:43
  Get us out of out of hot girl summer, summer into spooky
• 37:48
  season next week, which it's kind of a it's kind of a Choice
• 37:53
  for us but Elizabeth and I and Daniel both agreed that one of
• 37:56
  the greatest movies I'm laughing.
• 37:58
  Just say that are great. Yeah.
• 38:02
  That I had a dollhouse for what is Van, Helsing, the one with
• 38:10
  Hugh Jackman in it. Hugh Jackman and Kate
• 38:15
  Beckinsale. Oh, I had a revelation watching
• 38:18
  this movie but I'll let you know when we record the movie.
• 38:22
  Yeah. Remember that episode remind me
• 38:25
  to tell you about this dollhouse toll, I'm not forgetting that if
• 38:30
  you loved this episode, as much as I did, don't forget to follow
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• 38:45
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• 38:52
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• 39:00
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• 39:02
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• 39:05
  I'm, I'm sweating right now. All right, the end of summer.
• 39:09
  Yeah, beginning of fall, not that much.
• 39:12
  Hope for you in California. Although I did.
• 39:14
  See, leaves falling today, where I am, that's a sign.
• 39:18
  You're gonna have to come. Visit me.
• 39:19
  Yeah, we're gonna make it happen.
• 39:22
  You This time he were Halloween. We can go do fun.
• 39:24
  Like East Coast e, like apple, picking and pumpkins.
• 39:29
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• 39:35
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• 39:48
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• 39:52
  like he I don't like it. You do.
• 39:53
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• 41:07
  We were laughing because they're talking about how Van Helsing is
• 41:10
  our next episode, and it's kind of a risky choice, but I feel
• 41:14
  like there might be enough. Closeted Van Helsing fans that
• 41:17
  will appreciate it. I think so, I think so
• 41:20
  underappreciated that movie. Yeah, I think we're definitely
• 41:25
  the only costume design podcast to ever do it and probably ever
• 41:29
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