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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, August twenty second.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, tom Or the Texas game in just
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- 0:20Speaker 1: Grateful Griddle, oh Dot. All right, as we count down
- 0:24Speaker 1: the days to that Texas game, there are a lot
- 0:27Speaker 1: of storylines we are still following around the Ohio State
- 0:30Speaker 1: football team. Got most of those positional battles sit sort
- 0:34Speaker 1: of situated, settled earlier in the week now, sort of
- 0:38Speaker 1: starting to shift our focus to the game itself against
- 0:41Speaker 1: those Texas Longhorns. On today's show, you're going to get
- 0:44Speaker 1: to hear a bunch from new Ohio State defensive coordinator
- 0:46Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. We've talked a lot about the offense all
- 0:49Speaker 1: week long. I'm gonna let you hear a little bit
- 0:51Speaker 1: more about the defense here. Got a chance to talk
- 0:54Speaker 1: to him a little earlier in the weekend. He had
- 0:55Speaker 1: a lot of interesting things to say. He's good for
- 0:58Speaker 1: becoming a popular interview subject among the Ohio State Beat.
- 1:03Speaker 1: One of the first things he was asked about was
- 1:04Speaker 1: Texas quarterback Arch Manning. Now, Arch and Arch and Matt
- 1:11Speaker 1: Patricia have not faced each other on the field yet,
- 1:13Speaker 1: but Matt Patricia over the years as the defensive coordinator
- 1:17Speaker 1: and other defensive staff members with the New England Patriots,
- 1:20Speaker 1: he's faced the Manning family quite a bit, so he
- 1:23Speaker 1: knows what that means to be a Manning and to
- 1:26Speaker 1: go up against the Manning. So what is it like
- 1:28Speaker 1: preparing now to take on Arch and the Texas Longhorns
- 1:32Speaker 1: next Saturday.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried about what his uncles are telling him
- 1:35Speaker 2: right now. It's probably the biggest thing for me. You know,
- 1:38Speaker 2: I got a chance to actually see Arch last summer
- 1:40Speaker 2: and just you know, he's big, he's strong, he's really athletic.
- 1:44Speaker 2: He's got a very live arm. You know, he can
- 1:46Speaker 2: push the ball downfield. So he's a really good player.
- 1:49Speaker 2: This is a you know, a huge challenge for us,
- 1:51Speaker 2: but you know it'll be good, It'll be fun in
- 1:53Speaker 2: the show. I'm excited to have our fans out there
- 1:55Speaker 2: on and screamings see how he handles all the pressure
- 1:57Speaker 2: of that too. But I'm sure his cut you know,
- 1:59Speaker 2: his uncles and his dad and his grandfather, they've pretty
- 2:04Speaker 2: much groomed him as a quarterback, you know, his entire life.
- 2:06Speaker 2: So he's a great kid. He's a tremendous young man.
- 2:09Speaker 2: But you know, that'll be a big challenge for us.
- 2:11Speaker 3: It should be fun mentioned.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Earlier some of the positional battles that have been going
- 2:15Speaker 1: on during fall camp. One of those is at safety.
- 2:18Speaker 1: You know, Caleb Downs is going to be playing one
- 2:20Speaker 1: of those safety spots. The question has really been who
- 2:22Speaker 1: is going to be next to him? And the answer is,
- 2:25Speaker 1: well it the answer is kind of, it depends to
- 2:28Speaker 1: a certain degree. Here's Matt Patricia sort of breaking down
- 2:31Speaker 1: what he's seen from Lake Hartford and Jalen McLain as
- 2:33Speaker 1: those guys have been battling for time at that safety position.
- 2:36Speaker 1: And you're going to hear a quick follow up from
- 2:38Speaker 1: Dan Hope of eleven Warriors asking for some clarification on
- 2:42Speaker 1: where that all stands.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Great competition, you know, back and forth. I think both
- 2:47Speaker 2: of them have really made great gains, certainly with the communication.
- 2:51Speaker 2: I think that's one of the biggest things in the
- 2:52Speaker 2: back end is tying together the coverage, whether you're talking
- 2:55Speaker 2: to the corners outside or down to the linebackers in
- 2:57Speaker 2: front of you. There's some things in their communication wise
- 3:00Speaker 2: that are really critical, and both those guys have done
- 3:02Speaker 2: a good job certainly deep field play, being down in
- 3:05Speaker 2: the box, kind of some of the different skill sets
- 3:07Speaker 2: that those guys need. I think those guys that competed
- 3:10Speaker 2: really well. Maybe there's a little bit of a difference
- 3:12Speaker 2: in play with those guys where the positions that they're in,
- 3:16Speaker 2: but still making plays out in the field, which is good.
- 3:19Speaker 3: I think it's been great for us.
- 3:20Speaker 2: To have some tackling, some live tackling out there too,
- 3:22Speaker 2: which has been good to see those guys in those spots.
- 3:25Speaker 3: So been a good competition.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Really, we'll you know, have some things obviously where we
- 3:30Speaker 2: can play a lot of guys and put a lot
- 3:31Speaker 2: of people on the field, especially at the safety position,
- 3:33Speaker 2: so that's one of the advantages. Yeah, I would expect
- 3:39Speaker 2: them both to play and kind of you know, be
- 3:40Speaker 2: out there. First game is always tough too, right, you know,
- 3:42Speaker 2: it's gonna be hot, it's gonna be a lot of plays,
- 3:44Speaker 2: We're gonna see a lot of stuff.
- 3:45Speaker 3: So these guys haven't.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Played in a while, So going out there and playing
- 3:48Speaker 2: you know whatever, it is seventy whole snaps for an
- 3:50Speaker 2: entire game, I think you've got to be smart with that.
- 3:53Speaker 1: With a new defensive coordinator this year, it's gonna be
- 3:55Speaker 1: a little bit of a new scheme for the buck Eyes.
- 3:57Speaker 1: So how much of that defense is really in right now?
- 4:01Speaker 1: How much do the is the team really learned, how
- 4:04Speaker 1: much are they comfortable with running right now? And how
- 4:06Speaker 1: much of it is going to be sort of a
- 4:08Speaker 1: process that continues as the defense continues to grow and evolve,
- 4:12Speaker 1: maybe based on some opponents, maybe based on just time
- 4:15Speaker 1: with their coaching staff and with the players during the season.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question because I do think this
- 4:21Speaker 2: is like a journey. You know, the season will be
- 4:23Speaker 2: It'll have its challenges and its turns and its changes
- 4:26Speaker 2: as you go through. I think the biggest thing for
- 4:28Speaker 2: us coming up with the game in front of us
- 4:30Speaker 2: is just making sure it's really clean, you know, making
- 4:32Speaker 2: sure it's something that.
- 4:33Speaker 3: Guys can play fast, play aggressive.
- 4:35Speaker 2: And communicate well and make sure we're not doing anything
- 4:38Speaker 2: to beat ourselves in those situations.
- 4:40Speaker 3: I think that's going to be.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Really important, and as that grows, and as the confidence
- 4:44Speaker 2: of some of the things that we're doing and those
- 4:45Speaker 2: guys just playing together. You know, it's just a lot
- 4:47Speaker 2: of people that haven't players that haven't been on the
- 4:49Speaker 2: field together and communicating at the same time. So we
- 4:52Speaker 2: still have to go through that process on game day
- 4:55Speaker 2: and you'll learn a lot on game day. So you know,
- 4:57Speaker 2: that journey is exciting. It's it's a challenge, but you
- 5:02Speaker 2: know it's something I do expect to grow as we
- 5:03Speaker 2: go through the season.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Always interesting to hear the thoughts from the coaches on
- 5:07Speaker 1: the opposite side of the ball on some of the players.
- 5:10Speaker 1: So quarterback Julian saying, you've heard a bunch of Brian
- 5:13Speaker 1: Day and Brian hartline about him. Matt Patricia has some
- 5:16Speaker 1: interesting thoughts as well. You know, he has gotten to
- 5:18Speaker 1: see Julian saying from the other side of the ball
- 5:21Speaker 1: and has been sort of having to try and confuse
- 5:24Speaker 1: Julian saying to make Julian say and you know, feel
- 5:27Speaker 1: get get pressure on Julian saying all the kind of
- 5:30Speaker 1: stuff He's trying to make Julian Sayan's life as difficult
- 5:33Speaker 1: as possible. So what has he seen from Julian saying,
- 5:36Speaker 1: as he has been trying to make his life as
- 5:39Speaker 1: difficult as possible.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Yeah, two great young kids battling it out. I thought
- 5:42Speaker 2: it was fun to watch them compete, you know, and
- 5:46Speaker 2: obviously to be on the other side of it, knowing
- 5:47Speaker 2: some of the different looks that we might have or
- 5:49Speaker 2: the coverages and the reads. Both of them, you know,
- 5:52Speaker 2: really did a great job. And you know, coach Day
- 5:55Speaker 2: and Coach Hartline and coach Pest obviously, you know, doing
- 5:58Speaker 2: everything they can to evaluate that. For me, it was
- 6:01Speaker 2: really what I saw is just you know's decision making
- 6:03Speaker 2: when I'm showing different looks or we're having different coverages,
- 6:06Speaker 2: or we're rolling through practices without scripts, you know, and
- 6:08Speaker 2: where things are going to be moving at a little
- 6:10Speaker 2: bit of a different pace, and being able to handle
- 6:12Speaker 2: the tempo of the offense and things like that in
- 6:14Speaker 2: the huddle, adjustments that the line of scrimmage. You know,
- 6:17Speaker 2: we kind of threw a bunch of different things at them,
- 6:19Speaker 2: and I think his poise, his ability to kind of
- 6:21Speaker 2: see the defense and then also really make quick decisions.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Lincoln's a great athlete too. He did a good job
- 6:28Speaker 2: you know against us, obviously, but Julian. I think just
- 6:31Speaker 2: his ability to kind of like see the defense, make
- 6:33Speaker 2: the decision, get the ball out quick. And I think that's,
- 6:35Speaker 2: you know, one of the things you want in a quarterback.
- 6:37Speaker 2: That's you know, going out there in a big stage,
- 6:39Speaker 2: in a big game here is just make sure we're
- 6:41Speaker 2: taking care of the ball and doing all those things
- 6:42Speaker 2: that you need, you know, to help yourself win.
- 6:45Speaker 1: One of the things that we saw when we were
- 6:47Speaker 1: in camp earlier in the fall was a bunch of
- 6:49Speaker 1: Caleb Downs playing at nickel. Is that something that they're
- 6:52Speaker 1: looking at doing for real this fall? How much are
- 6:54Speaker 1: they thinking they're going to want to use him there?
- 6:57Speaker 1: And how does Matt Patricia determine when he does do
- 7:00Speaker 1: and doesn't make that change.
- 7:02Speaker 2: I think as much as you can get him as
- 7:04Speaker 2: close to the ball as possible, he's pretty good. When
- 7:06Speaker 2: he's around the ball, he usually makes some really good
- 7:08Speaker 2: things happen. So if we're in a situation where maybe
- 7:12Speaker 2: dictated by formation or coverage, where you know we're not
- 7:16Speaker 2: getting him close enough to the ball, then we need
- 7:17Speaker 2: to get him closer to the ball. We need to
- 7:19Speaker 2: put him in those positions sometimes, you know, whether it's
- 7:22Speaker 2: formation or down in distance can determine that too, you know,
- 7:25Speaker 2: what kind of packages that you're running to have him
- 7:27Speaker 2: in those different spots.
- 7:29Speaker 3: He's such a great communicator.
- 7:30Speaker 2: He's so strong with communicating, you know, to the deep
- 7:34Speaker 2: guys or to the down guys and being in all
- 7:35Speaker 2: those different areas, and his ability just his his football
- 7:39Speaker 2: savviness is you know, it's incredible just to be able
- 7:41Speaker 2: to see the game.
- 7:43Speaker 3: A lot of times.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Sometimes he's seeing the throw I think before the quarterbacks
- 7:46Speaker 2: made up his mind where he's going with it.
- 7:47Speaker 3: You know, he's just a great feel.
- 7:49Speaker 2: So that's part of the decision of just trying to
- 7:51Speaker 2: get him in those spots, you know, and making sure
- 7:53Speaker 2: that he can be around the ball as much as possible.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Yellow Downs is obviously a very popular topic of conversation widely.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Can considered one of the two best players in college football,
- 8:02Speaker 1: with the other being on the Ohio State offensive side
- 8:06Speaker 1: of the ball. You know who number four is, but
- 8:08Speaker 1: we got to talk about number two. In that safety room.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Matt Patricia has you hear him talk all the time
- 8:14Speaker 1: about how impressed he is with Caleb Downs just from
- 8:17Speaker 1: the mental side of things, let alone the physical side
- 8:19Speaker 1: of things. But just talking to Caleb Downs just in
- 8:23Speaker 1: the meeting room away from the field. How much does
- 8:25Speaker 1: what you learn there impact how you use him on
- 8:28Speaker 1: the field.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean football conversations with Caleb are great.
- 8:32Speaker 3: It's like talking to another coach, you know, and he
- 8:34Speaker 3: just And.
- 8:35Speaker 2: The great part as a coach to be able to
- 8:37Speaker 2: talk to a player that has that sort of vision
- 8:39Speaker 2: and feel for the game is you can you can
- 8:43Speaker 2: understand like, hey, he can really see this, maybe we
- 8:45Speaker 2: can do this adjustment or he can you know, be
- 8:47Speaker 2: in this alignment and still be able to do this job. Okay,
- 8:50Speaker 2: well then we can maybe have this sort of look
- 8:52Speaker 2: or this sort of pre snap alignment. And really that's
- 8:55Speaker 2: the most important thing, right It doesn't really matter what
- 8:57Speaker 2: I see or how I you know, perceive the game.
- 8:59Speaker 2: It's what he sees through his eyes. And that's something
- 9:02Speaker 2: that I'm you know, I've done in the past. I
- 9:04Speaker 2: think as a as a coach, you become a good
- 9:07Speaker 2: coach through great players. And Caleb is a great player.
- 9:10Speaker 2: And if you just listen to the things that he's
- 9:11Speaker 2: telling you that he sees, now I can maybe help
- 9:14Speaker 2: move him into some positions to be in spots. But
- 9:16Speaker 2: certainly you know, we've got you know, ten other guys
- 9:19Speaker 2: on the field that we have to coordinate with all
- 9:21Speaker 2: of that and make sure that the chess pieces are
- 9:22Speaker 2: kind of lined up in the right spots for you know,
- 9:25Speaker 2: the defense to succeed as a whole.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's background is in the NFL, where generally there's
- 9:31Speaker 1: not a huge gap between the skill levels of the
- 9:34Speaker 1: guys on the different teams. You know, you look at
- 9:36Speaker 1: a point spread between two NFL teams and if the
- 9:39Speaker 1: spread is more than ten, that's enormous. There are only
- 9:41Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of games Ohio State players this
- 9:43Speaker 1: year where the spread is ten or less, So you've
- 9:46Speaker 1: got kind of a built in Jimmy's and Joe's advantage
- 9:49Speaker 1: on a lot of Saturdays as an Ohio State assistant coach.
- 9:52Speaker 1: One of the spots where that's true is that linebacker
- 9:55Speaker 1: r Vell ree Sunny styles. What are their physical traits
- 9:59Speaker 1: and they're a open up for Matt Patricia to do
- 10:02Speaker 1: with them at linebacker.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Really versatile players, you know, guys that have great length,
- 10:07Speaker 2: great size, great speed, and they can cover a lot
- 10:09Speaker 2: of range. I think it's more than just you know,
- 10:12Speaker 2: the skills that they have when you're looking at scheme,
- 10:14Speaker 2: it's just kind of the space that they can occupy.
- 10:16Speaker 2: You know, they really think in coverage or in the
- 10:19Speaker 2: run game, they just can they can eat up so
- 10:22Speaker 2: much ground and they can really make it difficult on
- 10:24Speaker 2: the middle of the field of the defense, you know,
- 10:26Speaker 2: And I think that's something that we always want to
- 10:27Speaker 2: try to do a good job of, is being strong
- 10:29Speaker 2: in the middle. And when you got guys with that
- 10:32Speaker 2: sort of athleticism and that sort of size, there are
- 10:35Speaker 2: some certain things you can do different, you know, pieces
- 10:37Speaker 2: that you can move around, and that's what makes it fun,
- 10:41Speaker 2: you know, with those guys. So you're just trying to
- 10:42Speaker 2: make it as difficult as possible in the offense to
- 10:44Speaker 2: know where they are and then how you know, how
- 10:46Speaker 2: are they going to play in those different roles. But
- 10:49Speaker 2: the versatility that those two bring, I think, you know,
- 10:51Speaker 2: you got to really like what they can do in
- 10:54Speaker 2: the different jobs.
- 10:56Speaker 1: And finally, Matt Patricia, he's new to the college game,
- 10:58Speaker 1: definitely not new to the defensive coordinator game. Brian Hartline,
- 11:03Speaker 1: this is his first year calling plays, So this is
- 11:06Speaker 1: kind of similar to the Julian saying question from earlier.
- 11:09Speaker 1: What has Matt Patricia done in terms of working with
- 11:12Speaker 1: Brian Hartline to maybe give him feedback on hey, here's
- 11:15Speaker 1: what I'm seeing from me. Here's some stuff you might
- 11:16Speaker 1: want to consider as Brian Hartline is sort of learning
- 11:20Speaker 1: the ropes as the new play caller for the Buckeyes.
- 11:23Speaker 2: I really enjoy like when you have that cross conversation
- 11:26Speaker 2: between offense and defense. And you know, I love the game,
- 11:29Speaker 2: so I like special teams too. I'm going to talk
- 11:31Speaker 2: about all that stuff and the things that you see,
- 11:32Speaker 2: and I think the more you can relate all of
- 11:34Speaker 2: it together from a fundamental standpoint, then you know there
- 11:37Speaker 2: is it's all ball. You know, there is things that
- 11:39Speaker 2: go back and forth between all three phases, certainly from
- 11:42Speaker 2: offense to defense. I think we're always having that conversation
- 11:45Speaker 2: of like, hey, maybe this didn't really hit, but I
- 11:48Speaker 2: see this space or this might be you know, not
- 11:50Speaker 2: good against maybe a coverage or a defense that we're playing,
- 11:52Speaker 2: and I'm going to look at that and say, hey,
- 11:54Speaker 2: I'm seeing these tails or these tips or you know
- 11:56Speaker 2: this pattern is really okay, or when this guy's in
- 11:58Speaker 2: this position. So I think that's important to do as coaches,
- 12:02Speaker 2: and especially in a situation where you know, we're not
- 12:06Speaker 2: practicing against another team, We're not playing against another team
- 12:08Speaker 2: in preseason like I've been used to, where you can
- 12:11Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, make a trial run at it.
- 12:12Speaker 3: You're really playing against each other.
- 12:14Speaker 2: So that feedback, that direct feedback is really helpful. It's
- 12:17Speaker 2: been great for him to really help me, you know,
- 12:20Speaker 2: in some of the college things that I'm not used
- 12:22Speaker 2: to that I have to be ready for and prepare for,
- 12:24Speaker 2: make sure the defense is ready to go. So he's
- 12:26Speaker 2: been a huge help with that. But same on the
- 12:29Speaker 2: other end of it, you know, where I'm showing some
- 12:30Speaker 2: maybe some different looks and trying to do some confusing
- 12:33Speaker 2: things in there for the quarterbacks and telling them what
- 12:35Speaker 2: I'm seeing and why I'm doing those things.
- 12:37Speaker 3: So it's great football convel for sure.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Well. Week zero college football is back on Saturday.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Cannot wait.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Should be a full day, not a ton of games,
- 12:49Speaker 1: but some interesting ones, starting with Farmageddon Kansas State and
- 12:52Speaker 1: Iowa State coming out of Ireland. Remember last year that
- 12:56Speaker 1: was that shocking upset to start the season, Georgia Tech
- 12:59Speaker 1: beating what was at that point, very briefly a top
- 13:02Speaker 1: ten Florida State team. We'll see if the twenty twenty
- 13:05Speaker 1: five college football season starts off with that kind of
- 13:07Speaker 1: a bang on Saturday. Cannot wait though college football finally
- 13:11Speaker 1: finally back, The longest offseason in major North American sports
- 13:15Speaker 1: is now just about over. And then a week from Saturday,
- 13:20Speaker 1: number one versus Number two in the Horseshoe Buckeyes Longhorns,
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- 13:25Speaker 1: of coverage. We are kicking it into high gear as
- 13:29Speaker 1: we head into game week in Columbus, Ohio for the
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