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Chase Massner's mom: ‘I just want the truth’ · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Missing a Rock War veteran, Chase Masner of Turkey County,
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Speaker 1: disappeared on Wednesday. His wife told us she dropped him
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Speaker 1: off at a quick trip in Cobb County, where he works.
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Speaker 1: Masner was honorably discharged in two thousand eleven. His family
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Speaker 1: says he was diagnosed as bipolar and treated for post
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Speaker 1: traumatic stress disorder. This is crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Time has not healed the pain of the family and
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Speaker 1: friends of Chase Masner, young Iraqi War veteran who disappeared
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Speaker 1: without a trace. Despite some intense searching, few clues have
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Speaker 1: been found. We have a missing veteran, We have a friend,
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Speaker 1: a son, a father, and our main goal has always
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Speaker 1: been to bring him home, and that emotion will never
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Speaker 1: end until he's brought back home. I don't know if you,
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Speaker 1: like me, have a child, in my case, his son
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Speaker 1: and a daughter that you love more than anything in
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Speaker 1: the world. Do you have a brother, a sister, a son,
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Speaker 1: a daughter, a grandchild that is the world to you.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to imagine, but right now I am
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Speaker 1: imagining what it would be like if one of my children,
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Speaker 1: my son, just disappeared and nobody can tell me where
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Speaker 1: he was, or what happened to him, or the circumstances
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Speaker 1: surrounding his disappearance, or where I might find him, or
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Speaker 1: where I should even start looking, because that is the
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Speaker 1: position that a wonderful lady is in right now, and
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Speaker 1: we want to help her, and I believe you want
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Speaker 1: to help her too. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: This is Nancy Grace and crime stories, and with me
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Speaker 1: now is a very special gift. Best It is the
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Speaker 1: mother of Chase Masner, Stephanie Cadina, Stephanie, thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. Thank you. We all know that your son,
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Speaker 1: twenty six year old then twenty six year old Chase,
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Speaker 1: a proud veteran of the Iraqi War, married with two
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Speaker 1: children girls, I believe just vanishes. I can't help but believe,
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Speaker 1: Miss Cadina, that we're missing part of this story because
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Speaker 1: the story doesn't make sense to me. And I have found,
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Speaker 1: over years and years of prosecuting felonies in court and
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Speaker 1: covering cases, that when the story doesn't make sense, you're
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Speaker 1: missing a piece of the puzzle. You can't put the
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Speaker 1: puzzle together because you're missing important pieces of it. Let's
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Speaker 1: start at the beginning. Can you tell us as best
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Speaker 1: you can what happened did day Chase went missing? Chase
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Speaker 1: had come to my home to stay. He had stayed
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Speaker 1: with me for three days, UM, and on Wednesday, March,
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Speaker 1: his wife Amanda had picked him up, UM, with the
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Speaker 1: attentions of going home and spending a few days at
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Speaker 1: home on his days off work. He had to the
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Speaker 1: next two days off work. Why was he staying at
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Speaker 1: your home? Um? Amanda had called me and told me
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Speaker 1: they were having a little bit of difficulty and they
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Speaker 1: needed some space and asked, UM if it would be
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Speaker 1: okay if Chase came and stayed here with with me
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Speaker 1: and my husband where he grew up. And absolutely, but
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Speaker 1: I mean I was um thrilled to have him here.
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Speaker 1: Of course you were. I was unaware that there was
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Speaker 1: any problems or tension until that that moment. How long
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Speaker 1: had he been home from Iraq at that point, I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking I am not very good with dates at all,
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Speaker 1: but at least a year and a half, probably closer
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Speaker 1: to two years. Yeah, I imagine that trouble started brewing
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Speaker 1: as soon as he tried to reassimilate into civilian life
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Speaker 1: after being in Iraq. Both my son, both my son
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Speaker 1: and Amanda are extremely private and proud people. Um. And
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Speaker 1: what if you know if they were having difficulties. Um,
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Speaker 1: definitely they kept them to the to themselves. UM. As
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Speaker 1: a mom and a mother in law, I was not aware, um,
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Speaker 1: of any any in depth difficulties that that that we're having.
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Speaker 1: How old were the girls at that time? Three and
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Speaker 1: six months? Six seven months? Okay, So he Chase had
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Speaker 1: been at your place for two or three days and
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Speaker 1: Amanda comes to bring him home so they can reconcile
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Speaker 1: and get back on track. Yes, then what happened? There
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Speaker 1: was um a lot of tension. There was argument argument
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Speaker 1: between the two of them, um in front of you. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and here here when she was picking Chase up. Um,
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Speaker 1: Well what were they arguing about? I'm really I'm really
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Speaker 1: not sure. There was just a lot of a lot
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Speaker 1: of tension. Um. I don't I don't know the content
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Speaker 1: of their their conversation. I actually went out and sat
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Speaker 1: in the car with the girls. Well, Amanda and Chase
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Speaker 1: got his stuff together. They were they would just were
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Speaker 1: very very um frustrated. I think I sensed frustration in
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Speaker 1: both of them. And um, once he had his stuff
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Speaker 1: ready to go, did they have money problems? Stephanie, because
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking he comes home from Iraq, he has to
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Speaker 1: find a job. He looks, and he looks, and he looks,
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Speaker 1: and finally gets a job as a cashier at a
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Speaker 1: Quick Trip. Now, on that salary alone, it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: hard to support two little girls, especially a knee born,
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Speaker 1: with all it takes to take care of a child.
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Speaker 1: So that the money tension, which you know what that
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Speaker 1: is nothing to be ashamed of. Most of America is
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Speaker 1: one paycheck away from eviction. Okay, I mean, and I've
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Speaker 1: been there many times, um, where you're you're counting on
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Speaker 1: your next paycheck to get you through till the end
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Speaker 1: of the month to pay your rent, in your car
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Speaker 1: payment and everything else. And I've been there, I know it.
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Speaker 1: So he's trying to support them. He's not a lay
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Speaker 1: about when he can't get the jobs he really wants.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't sit there in wine and sulk and sit
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Speaker 1: on the sofa watching TV. He gets out and gets
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Speaker 1: a job where he can get a job at Quick Trip,
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Speaker 1: working all kinds of hours to try to support his family. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so they leave, they leave, right, Yes, they leave. Then
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Speaker 1: what happens and um, that's that's where everything goes completely
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Speaker 1: um blank for me. UM. I didn't speak with either
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Speaker 1: one of them that evening and the following day, March
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Speaker 1: I received a message from Amanda letting me know that
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Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta tell you something. I gotta tell
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Speaker 1: you something, Stephanie. I so proud of you not butting in.
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Speaker 1: You know they're having a problem. You know that he
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Speaker 1: they're trying to get it back together, get the car
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the road, and the last thing
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Speaker 1: they probably need is the mother in law calling to say, hey,
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Speaker 1: is everything okay. I don't know if I would have
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Speaker 1: that restraint, you know, I don't know, I'd be so
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Speaker 1: up in it. But you managed to do the right
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Speaker 1: thing and just leave them alone to work it out.
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Speaker 1: So you didn't hear from them that night. What happened next?
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Speaker 1: I received a message from I believe it was a
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Speaker 1: text message from Amanda the following day, later in the afternoon,
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Speaker 1: letting me know that Chase did not go home with her. UM.
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Speaker 1: At that moment is when my alarms went off and
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Speaker 1: I begin to panic because why you thought, Well, if
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Speaker 1: he didn't go with her, he would have come back here,
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Speaker 1: So where is it? That was my assumption. That was
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Speaker 1: That was my assumption. So I tried to make a
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Speaker 1: few phone calls, text messages. I gotta tell you something,
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Speaker 1: you're making my stomach. My stomach is just hurting right now,
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Speaker 1: imagining you've gone overnight. You have no idea where he is. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what happened after after that message and after I was
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Speaker 1: aware of the fact that he did not go home
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Speaker 1: with Amanda, Then I began to panic and wonder, well,
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Speaker 1: where did he go? Um? Where is he now? He? Um?
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Speaker 1: If I ever called him or text him, I always
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Speaker 1: always got a response, And throughout Thursday afternoon and evening, UM,
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Speaker 1: I did not get a response at all to any
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Speaker 1: of my voicemails. Okay, hold on right there, right there.
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Speaker 1: That's very very important because I've had to establish timelines
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Speaker 1: in a criminal case, starting with when a dog marked
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Speaker 1: or some other incident that may mean nothing to other people,
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Speaker 1: but it means something in this particular case. Now, when
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Speaker 1: exactly as you recall, did you first start trying to
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Speaker 1: reach him. It was late in the afternoon on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: probably after four Okay, So so let's start the timeline there.
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Speaker 1: And I'm starting it there because while a lot of
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Speaker 1: people may not immediately return a text or call. I
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Speaker 1: have to tell you the minute I see my mom's
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Speaker 1: number pop up or my husband's number pop up, I
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Speaker 1: pick it up immediately because it could be anything. Uh
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Speaker 1: so you're saying that was his practice. So if he
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Speaker 1: was not picking up or returning a text at four o'clock,
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Speaker 1: that was out of character. So let's start the timeline
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Speaker 1: right there. He is missing in my opinion. Unless I
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Speaker 1: hear differently at four a clot on Thursday, he's gone. Okay,
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Speaker 1: then what happens? I continue throughout the evening and night
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Speaker 1: to try to reach him, and by Friday morning, um M,
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Speaker 1: I said to my husband, what what do I do?
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Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to be crazy and overreact. And
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Speaker 1: my husband is a very stable, um the middle of
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Speaker 1: the line kind of person. He keeps me grounded, and
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Speaker 1: he said, we need to report that he's missing. So
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Speaker 1: I did. I called sheriff and making him to our house.
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Speaker 1: And that was Friday, Um, a little before it was
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Speaker 1: mid morning. I think, m h, you know, just hearing
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Speaker 1: your voice, it just I just went completely lost in
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Speaker 1: thought because if I talked about or start reliving my
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Speaker 1: fiances murder, it's always like it just happened yesterday. It's
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Speaker 1: it never that never changes. So we are now the
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Speaker 1: last time you've seen him was Wednesday night? Correct? Correct?
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Speaker 1: So it's now Thursday at four o'clock. You increase the
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Speaker 1: cause and the texts and when do you report it missing?
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Speaker 1: Friday mid morning when I when I didn't hear anything
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Speaker 1: back throughout the evening and night on Thursday night, I
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Speaker 1: was absolutely positive um that he was not able to
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Speaker 1: reach me. I'm not able to respond. Why can I
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Speaker 1: just ask a question that's neither here nor there? But
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Speaker 1: why didn't he go home with with his wife? Why
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Speaker 1: did she not want him to come home? Or is
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Speaker 1: that what happened? Um? From what I understand, they got
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Speaker 1: into more heated argument as as they left, and and
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Speaker 1: just said to hey with it. Chase requested UM that
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Speaker 1: Amanda drop him off, and I was told that she
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Speaker 1: dropped him off at Quick Trip, and then I was
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Speaker 1: told that she dropped him off at Brad's house. So
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Speaker 1: it's very I have no facts from the moment that
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Speaker 1: they left my driveway. I have nothing. Okay, I don't
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Speaker 1: understand this. You can't get her to tell you where
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Speaker 1: she dropped him. She said both both places, and she
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Speaker 1: came in in the house in the middle of the
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Speaker 1: sheriff being here, and she was flustered, and I was clustered,
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Speaker 1: and UM, I'm I'm still unclear where or she dropped
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Speaker 1: him off at Okay, see that right there spells trouble
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Speaker 1: to me. What did she tell the police? Did she
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Speaker 1: tell them she dropped a quick trip or at Brad's
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Speaker 1: the friend, I'm not quite certain. Well since that time
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Speaker 1: if he tried to pin her down. I love Amanda,
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Speaker 1: my daughter in law, very much, my granddaughters, and we
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Speaker 1: are we deal we're dealing with our loss very differently. Um.
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Speaker 1: She's she's moved away, protecting her her daughter's keeping, being
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Speaker 1: the best mother that she can be, and I praise
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Speaker 1: her for that. And me as a mother, UM is
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Speaker 1: absolutely my responsibility and my mission. And I will breathe
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Speaker 1: my last breath finding out what happened to my son.
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Speaker 1: When you say Amanda has moved away, are you saying
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Speaker 1: emotionally or does she physically move? Um? Not. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: say emotionally. She physically has moved. UM. I do have
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Speaker 1: contact with her. I went in and spent Thanksgiving with um,
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Speaker 1: with her and the girls. My husband and I we
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Speaker 1: had a wonderful time. Um we we really we don't
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Speaker 1: have a lot of conversation about this, about this because
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Speaker 1: we have chosen to handle it drastically different. Well, you
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Speaker 1: know that's not that uncommon, Stephanie, because when I still
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Speaker 1: speak to Keith, my fiance's family, we don't relive his
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Speaker 1: murder and what happened that day, and what happened at
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Speaker 1: the trial, and and that his killer is now out
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Speaker 1: on parole. We don't talk about that. It's so painful
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Speaker 1: and I don't know what it would achieve. So people
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Speaker 1: may think that's odd. It's not odd, It's not odd
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Speaker 1: at all. But you know, this may be irrelevant, it
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Speaker 1: may be moot because the friend Brad says that Chase
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Speaker 1: came to his home that night, correct Wednesday night. After
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Speaker 1: he leaves your spot, your home, he comes there. Is
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Speaker 1: that right? Yes, So regardless of whether Amanda the wife
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Speaker 1: says I dropped in a quick trip or I dropped
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Speaker 1: him at Brad's. For all I know, both things could
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Speaker 1: be true. It could be that she dropped in a
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Speaker 1: quick trip and he went to Brad's. You know it,
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Speaker 1: It's just that's Frankly, if he says that Chase came there.
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Speaker 1: It's irrelevant of what Amanda says. Okay, so we can
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Speaker 1: now trace him Wednesday night to Brad's. Now, do you
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Speaker 1: believe that he was at Brad's. Okay, we've got him
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Speaker 1: at Brad's on Wednesday night. What happens at Brad's? Brad,
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Speaker 1: he stays overnight and the next morning, I think Brad.
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Speaker 1: The next day Brad sees him go to quick trip
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Speaker 1: to work. Right, that's not my understanding. Chase did not
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Speaker 1: work the next day. Okay. My understanding is that Brad
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Speaker 1: left his house with Chase's cell phone, which I don't
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Speaker 1: quite understand, but left his house to go deliver a
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Speaker 1: computer do some sort of work, and when he returned,
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Speaker 1: Chase was gone. Let me understand something. What kind of
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Speaker 1: job did Brad have that he had to leave? Um,
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Speaker 1: my understanding he was some sort of self employed computer technician.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he worked on computers, but he didn't work for
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Speaker 1: our company. He worked for himself. And we know for
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Speaker 1: a fact that he did make that delivery. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: police have investigated that. I'm not certain that that has
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Speaker 1: been confirmed. Now, what was the explanation given to you
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Speaker 1: as to why the friend Brad took Chase says cell
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Speaker 1: phone with him. There has been no explanation given to me.
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Speaker 1: understanding that the friend Brad says, look, I don't want
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Speaker 1: you to leave. I don't want you to leave here,
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Speaker 1: that he took the cell phone and said, I'm taking
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Speaker 1: your cell phone, so you have to stay, so you'll
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Speaker 1: be here when I get back. That's my understanding, yes,
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Speaker 1: that he wanted to ensure that his friend was still
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Speaker 1: there when he got back from what he had to do. Okay,
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Speaker 1: he couldn't have been gone over two or three hours.
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Speaker 1: He gets back and in that amount of time, Chase
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Speaker 1: is gone. Now another fact that may seem insignificant, but
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Speaker 1: I disagree. Isn't it true, Alan that at the time
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Speaker 1: the friend Brad was having roofing work done on his home.
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Speaker 1: And the reason I find that significant is none of
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Speaker 1: the roofers see Chase leave. Yes, there was a roofer
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Speaker 1: who was working on a contract on the roof at
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Speaker 1: the house in the middle of the day who says
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Speaker 1: he did not see Ace leave. And in fact, this
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Speaker 1: roofer posted on social media a few days later when
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Speaker 1: this thing, this this case started to hit the media,
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Speaker 1: posted on it. You know, this was the guy. He
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Speaker 1: was at the house I was working on that day
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Speaker 1: and I didn't see him. He actually posted that. I
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Speaker 1: think it was on Facebook. Well, let me ask, let
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Speaker 1: me go a little bit further. Did the roofer ever
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Speaker 1: see Chase there? I don't believe he did. And also
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Speaker 1: what I would like to ask Ms Kadina is this
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Speaker 1: was there any indication that Brad tried to wake up
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Speaker 1: your son that morning before he went off to work
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Speaker 1: or what was was Chase asleep? From what I've understood,
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Speaker 1: I've not spoken with Brad directly myself. From what I've
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Speaker 1: understood from the detectives, he did try to wake Chase,
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Speaker 1: and at some point I believe Brad communicated with Amanda
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Speaker 1: saying Chase is not waking up, does he have to
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Speaker 1: work today? Which I find odd because Brad knows Chase's
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Speaker 1: schedule and Chase works third shift, so and he also
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Speaker 1: knew that he had the next two days off work.
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Speaker 1: Third shift would be what five to twelve? Third shift
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Speaker 1: is like eleven to seven, eleven PM to seven a m. Why, Um,
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Speaker 1: is it may? I asked that you have not talked
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Speaker 1: to Brad about what happened in the beginning. Well, first
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Speaker 1: of all, I don't know Brad. This This is not
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Speaker 1: a friend of Chases that he grew up with. It
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Speaker 1: was at our house all the time. Um, I had
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Speaker 1: never heard Brad's name before, and I've I've never met him.
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Speaker 1: You know, if he was at one of his friend's
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Speaker 1: house that basically grew up in in our house, I
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Speaker 1: would have been pounding on the door. Of course, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know where Brad lived. I didn't know his last name.
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know anything about him at all,
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Speaker 1: and and frankly I still don't. My understanding is that um,
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Speaker 1: he did try to wake him up. He told him
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Speaker 1: that he had to deliver a computer and that he
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Speaker 1: would be back later and they would have a cookout.
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Speaker 1: And and this is information um from Detective Twigs. So
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Speaker 1: he was going to come back to the home that
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Speaker 1: night and have a cookout with Chase that afternoon. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: So what do we know from that point? What? What
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Speaker 1: do you know of the police theory? What is their theory, Stephanie,
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Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated that I don't know what their theory is.
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Speaker 1: I have a very good working relationship with Detective Twigs.
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Speaker 1: We meet quite often. I follow up um weekly, bi
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Speaker 1: weekly with emails. I've had many many appointments with him
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Speaker 1: at my home, at my office, at his office. What
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Speaker 1: I walk away with every single time is there hasn't
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Speaker 1: been a crime, so we can't h we can't. Basically,
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Speaker 1: their hands are tied. There's They breaks my heart to
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Speaker 1: say this, but there's nobody and they say it's not
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Speaker 1: a crime to walk away and without evidence of any
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Speaker 1: foul play, They're basically at a stand still in the investigation.
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Speaker 1: So being gone for this period of time would not
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Speaker 1: suggest to them that there was foul play. It streams
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Speaker 1: to me that there's foul play. Um, but I am
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Speaker 1: not getting my my point across or I don't understand
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Speaker 1: the legal system. I met with Detective Twigs just just
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Speaker 1: last week, um, and it's it's he's very patient with me,
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Speaker 1: but it is the same conversation pretty much every single
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Speaker 1: every single time. And Alan, I've been reviewing the facts
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Speaker 1: as we know them. And a few days after Chase
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Speaker 1: went missing, Stephanie asked police to search a dumpster in
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Speaker 1: front of Brad's home and they agreed to do so.
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Speaker 1: They then went to landfill where the dumpster had been empty.
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Speaker 1: Place eventually visited. Excuse me, they searched the wrong dumpster, right,
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Speaker 1: they Yes, they they searched the wrong dumpster, and they
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Speaker 1: my request, my request was to please search the landfill
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Speaker 1: because they did not. They did not search the dumpster
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Speaker 1: that was there for the roofers and it was hauled
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Speaker 1: away and Major Bowl and Ball assured me that they
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Speaker 1: would do their very best to search the landfill and
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Speaker 1: I was later contact did buy Detective twigs, that too
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Speaker 1: much time had passed and the landfill was not searched,
27:09
Speaker 1: so they searched the wrong dumpster and then say it
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Speaker 1: costs too much to search the landfield. Is that what happened?
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Speaker 1: He didn't say that it costs too much. He said
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Speaker 1: that too much time has passed. In reports I've read,
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Speaker 1: it says the debris is buried, was buried so deep
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Speaker 1: in the landfill officer's sake, cost close to one million
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Speaker 1: dollars to search, and that with nothing suggesting a body
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Speaker 1: had ever been in the dumpster, police say they cannot
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Speaker 1: justify spending the money. Okay, do you know Alan whether
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Speaker 1: the friend Brad has ever taken a polygraph test? I'm
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Speaker 1: not aware of one. Maybe maybe Ms Kanana would know that,
27:53
Speaker 1: but I am not aware of that. Passie Stephanie, I
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Speaker 1: don't have that knowledge either. I've asked, and um, the
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Speaker 1: answer is I can't answer that question. Well, that doesn't
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Speaker 1: make sense because typically police will say someone volunteers or
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Speaker 1: they were asked to take a polygraph, and they won't
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Speaker 1: reveal the results of the polygraph. But to flat out
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Speaker 1: not even tell you whether they've asked him to take
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Speaker 1: a polygraph, I find that very unusual. I mean, Alan,
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Speaker 1: isn't just me. I agree with you, especially Cobb County.
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Speaker 1: They're pretty aggressive, has been my experience. The detective is
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Speaker 1: lead Detective Chris Twigs at seven seven oh four nine
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Speaker 1: nine three nine three one, and I'd be very curious
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Speaker 1: to find out if they had asked the friend Brad
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Speaker 1: to take a polygraph, or if they have taken a
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Speaker 1: polygraph and he's passed it so we can move on
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Speaker 1: from that point. And very often people are asked to
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Speaker 1: take a polygraph to rule themselves out. I always think
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Speaker 1: of Mark Class, my friend Mark Class, whose daughter Polly
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Speaker 1: was abducted and she was murdered. The first thing cops
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Speaker 1: did was come to his house and he said, look,
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Speaker 1: you know what, take my DNA, take my fingerprint, I'll
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Speaker 1: do a polygraph whatever you want, so you can get
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Speaker 1: off me and move on to find out who took Polly.
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Speaker 1: So very often people take a polygraph in order to
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Speaker 1: allow police to go on to the next phase. But
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Speaker 1: if Brad is to be believed, Chase just left for
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Speaker 1: no reason, with none of his stuff, without a cell phone,
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Speaker 1: nothing and has never been seen again. And nobody saw
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Speaker 1: him leave, neither the roofers nor the people in the neighborhood,
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Speaker 1: and he has never been spotted. Since that's where we're left.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly where we're at now. According to Sergeant Dane
29:56
Speaker 1: Appears with Cobb County p D. They told us that
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Speaker 1: time online that this case is very much active. What
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Speaker 1: does that mean when you speak to them, you spoke
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Speaker 1: to them last week? What are they doing to help
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Speaker 1: find Chase? What active thing are they doing? I asked
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Speaker 1: that exact question to Detective Twigs because I met with
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Speaker 1: him after that quote from Dana Pierce, and I was
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Speaker 1: receiving phone calls asking what the new leads or what
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Speaker 1: they were working on. So I asked Detective Twigs that
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Speaker 1: exact question, and they, UM, it was it was nothing
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Speaker 1: new than I'd heard for the past year and a half,
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Speaker 1: two years, maybe UM trying to locate a a person
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Speaker 1: UM who could verify that Brad did in fact do
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Speaker 1: some type of computer work, and wanting to contact a
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Speaker 1: friend of Chase's via phone. I just had some questions,
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Speaker 1: UM for that individual. Nothing new, And I asked him
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Speaker 1: why why. David Pierce said that there was well, I
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Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what his exact words were. That that
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Speaker 1: that there were new leads in the in the case.
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Speaker 1: Is that what was reported? Just that Pier states that
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Speaker 1: the case is quote very much active and are working
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes with new information. But Pierce declined to
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Speaker 1: divolve those details. Okay if that, if that is a
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Speaker 1: factual statement, then they're declining to divulge the details to
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Speaker 1: me as well. Okay, that's interesting. Um, did Chase have
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Speaker 1: an a t M or credit cards or a gas
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Speaker 1: card that he used? He had a debit card, yest
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Speaker 1: has it been used at all since he disappeared? No?
32:14
Speaker 1: Was there money in the account for him to get
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Speaker 1: to My understanding is that his pay day was at
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Speaker 1: midnight on Wednesday, which which is the day he left here.
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Speaker 1: Was there a direct deposit? Did he did he have
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Speaker 1: to go pick up his check? Oh, he did not
32:36
Speaker 1: have to pick up a check. It was direct deposited. Correct.
32:40
Speaker 1: Is that money still in his account? I have no
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Speaker 1: knowledge of of his and Amanda's banking account. Well, what
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get at is did he take that
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Speaker 1: money out of his account? From what I understand from
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Speaker 1: Detective Twigs, there was no activity on his debit card.
32:59
Speaker 1: I believe since Wednesday evening. I believe he bought something
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Speaker 1: very small purchase at Walgreen's, which is across the across
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Speaker 1: the street from Quick Trip. That was a last transaction.
33:15
Speaker 1: The reason I ask is if he had withdrawn his
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Speaker 1: money his paycheck, that would suggest to me that he
33:23
Speaker 1: was just leaving. But if you get a paycheck and
33:26
Speaker 1: it's sitting there in your account and you decide to
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Speaker 1: skip down, you take your money with you. But he didn't. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: if you were voluntarily missing, you you would you would
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Speaker 1: wait until that morning and it's posted and then you
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Speaker 1: go and hit up the A t M or the bank.
33:42
Speaker 1: Why would you walk away without without that money? And
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Speaker 1: if money was taken, there should be a photo of
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Speaker 1: the A t M withdrawal. So there's been no activity
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Speaker 1: on his debit card when he left it. He had
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Speaker 1: his driver's license with him and his wallet. He did
33:59
Speaker 1: not carry a wallet. He had recently gotten a new
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Speaker 1: cell phone and a new cell phone case, and he
34:06
Speaker 1: right actually Wednesday afternoon, he was showing me um that
34:12
Speaker 1: he was getting organized, and he has his cell phone case,
34:16
Speaker 1: his cell phone, his debit card, and driver's license in
34:19
Speaker 1: the pockets of the case. And it was just very
34:22
Speaker 1: simple and easy for him to keep track of those
34:26
Speaker 1: three things. Everything was all in one Wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: So when the friend Brad kept his cell phone, did
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Speaker 1: he keep his driver's license a debit card too? I
34:36
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that question. Um, If he did,
34:43
Speaker 1: I believe it's it's been given back to Amanda. My
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Speaker 1: my recollect recollection is UM, Amanda had his driver's license,
34:56
Speaker 1: So that would mean that he left out a driver's
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Speaker 1: license or a debit card. Why would you do that?
35:04
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he would. Once again, I want
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Speaker 1: What is your wish today? What do you want our
35:55
Speaker 1: listeners to hear? And do? I just want the truth.
36:03
Speaker 1: I'm I'm prepared whatever the truth is. M I want
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Speaker 1: to find the answers. I want to find out what
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Speaker 1: happened to Chase, and I wanted I want to know
36:25
Speaker 1: where he is. Stephanie, do you think he's alive? I
36:32
Speaker 1: do not why. I know my son and I know
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Speaker 1: his heart, and there's it's just not possible for him
36:58
Speaker 1: to be off living below the grid. As I've heard
37:05
Speaker 1: different comments. Yes, he couldn't. He he could not pull
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Speaker 1: that off. He's got a very very sensitive heart. He
37:17
Speaker 1: loves his wife, he loves his daughters. I know he
37:23
Speaker 1: loves me. He just would not do that. I agree
37:33
Speaker 1: with you. I don't think you would do that either.
37:36
Speaker 1: For anyone listening that has any information on the disappearance
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38:05
Speaker 1: being with us. The search for Chase goes on. Thank
38:10
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