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🌍 LGBTQ RIGHTS UNDER FIRE: Russia Crackdown, Iran Rumors & Global Backlash · The Karel Show

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Speaker 1: Show time is here. No time to fear. Corilla is
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Speaker 1: so near because show time is here. So on with
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Speaker 1: the show.
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Speaker 2: Let's give it a go.
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Speaker 1: Krilla is the one that you need to know. Now
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Speaker 1: it's show time.
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Speaker 3: No, alrighty, we are doing this Gay Week. We've got
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Speaker 3: Scott Jacobson's journalist to the world, uh in Ukraine right
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Speaker 3: now and we're going to be discussing all the going
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Speaker 3: on in the world of this gay week, which you know,
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Speaker 3: there's so much going on in the world it's hard
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Speaker 3: to even think about being gay. But here we are,
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Speaker 3: all right, Scott, you sent some stories, So how are
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Speaker 3: you doing over there in Ukraine?
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Speaker 2: By the way, we're doing good. There's been a little
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Speaker 2: bit less bombing this week, so that's always good. That
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Speaker 2: maybe a change in strategy to the Eastern Front in
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Speaker 2: terms of focus. I don't know. No one can read
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Speaker 2: mister Putin's minds black box, but that seems to be
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Speaker 2: indication so far. So a fewer air raid alarms, everyone's happy.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm I'm happy if there's fewer air raid alarms. Okay, well,
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Speaker 3: get right to it. Quiz me, ask me anything, Bert, Sure.
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Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts based on New York Post
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Speaker 2: report where mister Trump. President Trump has been apparently briefed
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Speaker 2: that RAN's new Supreme Leader, mosh Taba Khameni, is probably gay,
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Speaker 2: and it was framing it as intelligence Midran's anti LGBT repression.
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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this.
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I want to know what probably
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Speaker 3: gay is. First of all, I want to know what
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Speaker 3: probably gay is because I've been gay a long time
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Speaker 3: and I'm certainly gay, So I just I just I'm
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Speaker 3: curious what probably gay means. Sounds like conjecture. You know,
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Speaker 3: is he gay? No one's gonna say. I mean, who's
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Speaker 3: you know, if he comes out, he's thrown off a building,
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Speaker 3: so you know, no one's going to really say if
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Speaker 3: he is or isn't. I'm not sure why Trump would
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Speaker 3: need to know that and or how he would use it,
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Speaker 3: since Trump always uses everything to his advantage. Uh, if
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Speaker 3: he would use it to maybe get him deposed, have
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Speaker 3: him thrown out, have him executed, or you know, something
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Speaker 3: like that for being against the you know, let's remember
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Speaker 3: the Supreme Leader is the ultimate in theocracy. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say sharia allah. I'm not sure
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Speaker 3: if they call it Sharia there, but they're the ultimate
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Speaker 3: religious leader, and so they could not have a gay Ayatola,
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Speaker 3: although I think it'd be hysterical, but they couldn't have one.
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Speaker 3: I mean the hardliners in government, which is what this
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Speaker 3: government is from it. You know, here's a few things.
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Speaker 3: We don't know where this one legged guy is. We
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Speaker 3: know he lost a leg. He's a one legged presumed
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Speaker 3: a one legged probably gay man. And we don't know
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Speaker 3: where the one legged probably gay man is. And they're
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Speaker 3: doing that on purpose because they figure, if we know
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Speaker 3: where he is, we'll bomb him, you know. So we
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Speaker 3: don't know where the probably gay one legged man is.
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Speaker 3: And we can bet though he is surrounded by hardliners,
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Speaker 3: by the people that were in his father's cabinet and
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Speaker 3: people that he is aligned with that are even to
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Speaker 3: the right of his father. So nobody in that group
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Speaker 3: would accept him being gay. So if he is gay,
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Speaker 3: he won't be the supreme leader. He'll be killed or
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Speaker 3: exiled or whatever. But or you never know, if, given
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Speaker 3: how things are over there right now, they might forgive that,
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Speaker 3: you know, they might overlook it, not mention it, just
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Speaker 3: so they could have some sort of stability because of
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Speaker 3: his last name, halmiony. So if he is gay, they'll
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Speaker 3: keep it to themselves. And they'll only do that so
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Speaker 3: they can keep a Halmione in office. Why Trump would
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Speaker 3: definitely use it against him. Trump is not pro gay,
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Speaker 3: as we know he says he is. He just did
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Speaker 3: an interview where he said he's so pro gay. He
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Speaker 3: even said, I used the gay national anthem, like YMCA
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Speaker 3: is the gay national anthem? What an idiot is We
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Speaker 3: all know it's raining men is the gay national anthem?
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Speaker 3: But anyway, so he's anti gay, anti trans and he
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Speaker 3: would only use this information to harm the leader of Iran.
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Speaker 3: And he could if he's If he stuck by this
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Speaker 3: and spread the word everywhere in Iran somehow that their
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Speaker 3: new supreme leader is gay, he would not be the
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Speaker 3: Supreme leader long. But Trump needs to realize that he's
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Speaker 3: dealing with a known at the moment. In other words,
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Speaker 3: they know who this Homani guy is, They know you
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Speaker 3: know what his politics are. If he were to have
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Speaker 3: him deposed for being gay, it could be a really
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Speaker 3: big problem because we don't know who would succeed him.
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Speaker 3: All Right, We're going to talk more about issues around
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Speaker 3: the world that affect the LGBTQ community with Scott Jacobson,
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Speaker 3: who is a LGBTQ adjacent currently in Ukraine. We'll be
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Speaker 3: back right after this. So we are back as I
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Speaker 3: try to concentrate on this week, this gay week with
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Speaker 3: Scott Jacobson. When I say try, because as you all know,
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Speaker 3: when something is wrong with Ember, my whole brain is
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Speaker 3: scattered and she's had a little poopy problems the last
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Speaker 3: twenty four hours, So my brain is scattered. But she's
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Speaker 3: getting medicine later today, so hopefully all will be well.
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Speaker 3: But speaking of piles of crap, what else do you
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Speaker 3: have for me today? In the world of this gay news.
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Speaker 2: We have? In France twenty four Uh, that's been the
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Speaker 2: main The transit have been alarmed as India has moved
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Speaker 2: to curb LGBTQ rights based on a new transgender law
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Speaker 2: or amendment of pos amendment to a transgender law, sparking
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Speaker 2: fear and anger among LGBTQ groups. They've they have been
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Speaker 2: warning that this could undo hard won legal gains and
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Speaker 2: then therefore take away the right to self identify. So
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Speaker 2: same fight, different country. What are your thoughts.
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Speaker 3: It's odd in India that they're doing this because while
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Speaker 3: India has been pretty much anti LGBTQ that we have
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Speaker 3: made some gains there, and if you're in the bigger cities,
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Speaker 3: you know that's the thing. They have had a thriving
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Speaker 3: trans community, and I know this sounds odd, uh, but
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Speaker 3: but they have and the trans community that they've had
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Speaker 3: has basically been you know, women, I'm sorry, men who
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Speaker 3: identify as women, either they've had the surgery or they haven't,
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Speaker 3: but they live as women and they even have a
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Speaker 3: name for them and everything. So the trans people that
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Speaker 3: have been living in India have had it easier actually
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Speaker 3: than gay men and women because of the way the
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Speaker 3: society looks upon them. And so this is odd. And
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Speaker 3: I would say it's odd because it obviously is exported
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Speaker 3: American hatred, which we have talked about a lot. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: someone has the ear of the Indian parliamentary key Indian
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Speaker 3: officials and they are telling them trans is bad because
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Speaker 3: in India, trans community and drag community has pretty much
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Speaker 3: been tolerated more so than gay men and gay women,
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Speaker 3: and so for them to now target trans is a
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Speaker 3: little out of character. Also, we were making some gains
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Speaker 3: in India when it comes to LGBTQ rights, and same
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Speaker 3: sex marriage and all that we were making, as they say,
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Speaker 3: hard fought gains. They really did fight hard. They've had
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Speaker 3: several votes about same sex marriage. You know, it's they
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Speaker 3: keep trying and trying. So there's certainly a large gay
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Speaker 3: community there. Well, there's a billion plus people, so of
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Speaker 3: course there's a large gay community there. There's a large
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Speaker 3: gay community there that is trying to bring India into
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Speaker 3: the twenty first century when it comes to LGBTQ rights.
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Speaker 3: I can see why the trans community in particular is
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Speaker 3: upset over this because up until this point, while they
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Speaker 3: weren't accepted with open arms, they also weren't I don't
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Speaker 3: want to say frowned upon. They weren't targeted. They would
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Speaker 3: raid gay bars and lesbian bars and things like that,
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Speaker 3: but they pretty much left the trans community alone and
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Speaker 3: the drag community, and now they're going after them. So
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Speaker 3: you have to wonder why now, you know, why, now
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Speaker 3: is there a more hardline government in India at the moment,
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Speaker 3: And if so, are they listening to anti trans rhetoric
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Speaker 3: coming from the United States and saying, hey, let's just
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Speaker 3: borrow that hatred. I would say that's the answer that
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Speaker 3: they are seeing the anti trans hatred from America and
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Speaker 3: they're saying, well, let's just jump on this bandwagon. And
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Speaker 3: it has to be political hardliners there because in India
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Speaker 3: I have many friends who are from India. They pretty
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Speaker 3: much say that being gay, lesbian, trans is you know,
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Speaker 3: again tolerated, it's not accepted, and there's been violence against
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Speaker 3: the gay community a lot. Trans people have been raped
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Speaker 3: and killed in higher numbers, just like in America. But
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Speaker 3: the differences between America, we still have a few more
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Speaker 3: legal protections than they do there. Uh, And so this
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Speaker 3: is interesting. I think it's just riding the wave of
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Speaker 3: the Trump anti trans sentiments and we'll see how this
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Speaker 3: plays out. Oftentimes things happen in India and then two
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Speaker 3: or four years later they flip the opposite happens. So
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Speaker 3: we'll see if this sticks. First of all, net, oh,
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Speaker 3: you're your audio has gone all way? Could do wa?
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Speaker 3: Could do you sound all? Why?
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Speaker 2: Wow?
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Speaker 3: Wow? Wow? Oh dearly, Well, we might have to end
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Speaker 3: this session and start a different session or something. I
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Speaker 3: don't know. Did you do something to your microphone? Did
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Speaker 3: you eat your mic It sounds like you ate your
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Speaker 3: microphone like you're talking from here? No, could be the
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Speaker 3: wi fi, we'll try to reconnect. Okay, we have him
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Speaker 3: back with better audio and so yeah. So basically, I
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Speaker 3: think they're riding the anti Trump trans train. Uh and
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Speaker 3: and I think they've wanted to for a long time.
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Speaker 3: In India, well, I'd say it's been more tolerated and
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Speaker 3: been you know, less less offensive than than gay men
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Speaker 3: or with gay women. I think that anytime they can
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Speaker 3: find a way to discriminate against gays in India, they
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Speaker 3: will uh and and and again, because they're a hugely
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Speaker 3: religious society. Uh And, I think this hatred comes from
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Speaker 3: i'd I don't know the doctrine of the Hindu faith
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Speaker 3: or and I don't even know the Muslim faith so
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Speaker 3: much as you know, does it specifically target you know,
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Speaker 3: gays or trans or whatever I'd have I'm not an
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Speaker 3: expert in those two religions, but I would say this
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Speaker 3: is still driven by.
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Speaker 2: Religion, truly so that the Barons Observer, one of the journalists,
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Speaker 2: has been fined over alleged LGBT propaganda quote unquote in
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Speaker 2: the Russian Federation. Johns Alesia Krivsova has been fined two
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand rubles with the accusation or the allegation of
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Speaker 2: promoting LGBT issues by media or online platforms. This is
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Speaker 2: sort of a actualized extent of ongoing countering of any
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Speaker 2: positive messaging and just reporting on LGBT issues under the
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Speaker 2: rubric of LGBT republicanda and Russia heteration.
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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, my first gut instinct if you're
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Speaker 3: a journalist that wants to cover LGBTQ issues for Russia,
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Speaker 3: get out of Russia, travel, you know, cover them from Afar.
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Speaker 3: You know, Putin has made it clear he has a
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Speaker 3: zero tolerance for anything gay. Yeah, I mean he threatened
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Speaker 3: to arrest Madonna, was it. I mean, some pop star
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Speaker 3: was in Russia doing a show and they threatened to
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Speaker 3: arrest them if they said anything pro gay. So the
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Speaker 3: a I'm not b She's lucky. It's only a fine,
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Speaker 3: you know, because they disappear people there and see. It
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Speaker 3: just goes to show how a government can be so
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Speaker 3: at odds with the will of the people. And what
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Speaker 3: I mean is younger Russians. I have seen the polling
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Speaker 3: across the board. Younger Russians have bigger fish to fry
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Speaker 3: than LGBTQ issues. It just doesn't really, you know, it's
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Speaker 3: not a big deal for them. And so the government
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Speaker 3: in Russia is run by old people, you know, Vladimir
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Speaker 3: and all of his Oligark friends. They still have a
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Speaker 3: problem with gay the younger people of Russia. My friend
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Speaker 3: Thea has performed there back in you know, it was
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Speaker 3: fifteen years ago, but she performed at a club that
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Speaker 3: was a predominantly gay club. I mean, so young people
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Speaker 3: in Russia really aren't as anti gay as the government
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Speaker 3: of Russia would would lead us to beliegue. And so
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Speaker 3: I think that journalists inside the country have a hard job.
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Speaker 3: They know that there's an audience for what they want
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Speaker 3: to write about the LGBTQ community. They know there's people
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Speaker 3: there that want to, you know, consume this information. But
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Speaker 3: they also know that if they write this information, they
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Speaker 3: could be putting themselves at risk for a fine or
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Speaker 3: something even greater. So I think, you know, journalists, we
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Speaker 3: tend to ignore. We tend to report at our own risk,
14:42
Speaker 3: for lack of a better word, you know, if we
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Speaker 3: feel there's a story, if we feel there's an issue
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Speaker 3: or whatever, we report it. We bring it out, even
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Speaker 3: if it could harm us. And I think that any
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Speaker 3: journalist in Russia knows that if they if they just
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Speaker 3: use the letters LGBTQ, I mean, if they just say
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Speaker 3: they letters without anything else, you know, they just write
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Speaker 3: those letters, they could be guilty of spreading gay propaganda.
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Speaker 3: So I think that they're doing the Lord's work. But
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Speaker 3: at the same time, they cannot be surprised if they
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Speaker 3: get fined or jailed, because Putin has made it very
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Speaker 3: clear how he feels about this and how the governors
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Speaker 3: in Russia and you know, I mean Chechnia, remember is
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Speaker 3: right there, you know, next to Russia, and in Chechnia
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Speaker 3: they have gay concentration camps used from the Nazis. They
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Speaker 3: reopened one for suspected gaze. So maybe the Iatola should
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Speaker 3: go there because you know he's probably gay, so he's
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Speaker 3: a suspected gay, so he would be put into this
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Speaker 3: camp and in Chechnia and he better be careful, well,
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Speaker 3: he'll be put in this camp and jetchuh. So they
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Speaker 3: know what the sentiment of the government is. Journalists do
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Speaker 3: so they know when they write something, even if it's
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Speaker 3: not even favorable. If they're just reporting on a story.
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Speaker 3: If they say there were gay people that marched in
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Speaker 3: the streets yesterday, that could be deemed as pro LGBTQ
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Speaker 3: or propaganda under Putin and his regime, because to them,
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Speaker 3: you talk about any of it and that's it, you're
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Speaker 3: spreading propaganda.
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Speaker 2: I should have set a footnote in the same article,
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Speaker 2: it's noting that she was placed on Russia's wanted list
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Speaker 2: and arrested in absentia in twenty twenty two. Criminal proceedings
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Speaker 2: were launched, so it's been an ongoing thing for her.
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Speaker 3: So she's not there, she's reporting from Afar. Yeah, yes,
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Speaker 3: a smart girl.
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Speaker 2: And then the charges were just quote justifying terrorism unquote
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Speaker 2: end quote, discrediting the army unquote. So she fled in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, she evaded securities, she evaded security services,
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Speaker 2: will under house arrest smart woman.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, kg girl, she'd probably dress like a boy and left.
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Speaker 3: Russian security not the smartest and they're not I hate
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Speaker 3: to say that, but they're like our ice agents. They're
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Speaker 3: you know, got a little IQ missing. And because they
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Speaker 3: know that, you know, they are like our ice agents
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Speaker 3: because they're they're taking orders from a dictator and half
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Speaker 3: the time they probably don't even agree with those orders.
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Speaker 3: They just are doing it to have curry favor with
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Speaker 3: the king. And you know, Russia is gonna have to come,
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Speaker 3: you know, after Vladimir Putin dies, and he will just
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Speaker 3: like Trump. You know, maybe at the same time that
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Speaker 3: would be joyous. After Vladimir Putin dies, we'll see what happens.
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Speaker 3: If Russia continues it's hardline leader, then the new leader
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Speaker 3: a general, it would probably be may continue with antigay sentiment.
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Speaker 3: If when Vladimir Putin dies, the Russian people decide they're
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Speaker 3: going to be a little more progressive, then we could
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Speaker 3: see these things changing. Because what is the population of Alexa,
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Speaker 3: What is the population of Russia? M Yes, so there's
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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty three million people in Russia. I
18:17
Speaker 3: always picture it bigger, by the way, but there's one
18:20
Speaker 3: hundred and forty three million people. So just during the math,
18:23
Speaker 3: you've got about ten million gay people there. And they
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Speaker 3: can ignore that, they can try to suppress that, they
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Speaker 3: can try to legislate against it, they can do whatever
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Speaker 3: they want. Those people are still there, and you know,
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Speaker 3: ultimately one day they're going to have to deal with them,
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Speaker 3: although they may end up dealing with them like we are,
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Speaker 3: which isn't a good thing, but ultimately they are going
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Speaker 3: to have to deal with them. One day, and it's
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Speaker 3: when the younger people take over, you know, and it
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Speaker 3: really will be when people your age start running the
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Speaker 3: show will see societal changes and we'll see them happen rapidly,
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Speaker 3: including in places like China and Russia, because the younger people,
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Speaker 3: you guys, could give two fucks about you know, gay,
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Speaker 3: straight whatever. You have other fish to fly, like, you know,
19:08
Speaker 3: I need a retirement and I'd like to be able
19:10
Speaker 3: to buy a home, and you know, I mean, so
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Speaker 3: there's other things on your agenda that oh, my neighbor's queer.
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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, who cares and so, And that sentiment
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Speaker 3: is when I found around the globe when I talk
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Speaker 3: to people from Russia, from China and they're younger. You know.
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Speaker 3: Now there are the hardline young people like neo Nazi
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Speaker 3: and fascists and all that. So you know, there's always
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Speaker 3: going to be those, the proud boys of the world.
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Speaker 3: But for the most part, out of one hundred and
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Speaker 3: forty three million people, I ventured to say as a guest,
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Speaker 3: seventy or eighty million of them probably could give two
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Speaker 3: shits about gay. But it's again, we're the low hanging
19:43
Speaker 3: fruit where the enemy. That's easy to go after. We're
19:47
Speaker 3: easy to vilify, and when someone liked this journalist writes
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Speaker 3: anything about us, it really upsets the Kremlin. So I'm
19:56
Speaker 3: glad she is not in that country, and I hope
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Speaker 3: she can. He keeps reporting, and because there is a
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say a market, but there is
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Speaker 3: a need there for those people who are there, those
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Speaker 3: ten million people, they have a need to feel connected,
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Speaker 3: to feel represented, to feel seen, and it's journalists like
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Speaker 3: her that make them feel that way.
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Speaker 2: I should add. Some people like to point to some
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Speaker 2: reportage around our religious revivalism in the United States. Yes,
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Speaker 2: so there's a research name, Ryan Berge, Professor Burge. He
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Speaker 2: does research on this stuff professionally. He himself is a
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Speaker 2: professor Christian. If you look generation by generation, from greatest
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Speaker 2: to Boomers to ex millennial to z the number of
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Speaker 2: those who identify or take the box off of no
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Speaker 2: religious affiliation goes up every single year.
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Speaker 3: Yes it does. And I am joyous about that. And
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Speaker 3: we'll talk more about it one week, and Scott Jacobson
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Speaker 3: and I are talking this game week. I really am
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Speaker 3: joyous about that. I've been a lifelong agnostic or atheist
21:02
Speaker 3: since I was in like eighth grade, and I read
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Speaker 3: the Bible twice and openly laughed and said, y'all believe
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Speaker 3: this shit. And they're like, oh, it's the word of God.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, God didn't write this. God doesn't write books.
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Speaker 3: Stephen Kings write books. God doesn't. And so even if
21:19
Speaker 3: there was a God, this is he didn't write this book.
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Speaker 3: So you know, I saw through it all when I
21:26
Speaker 3: was like in eighth grade, I'm like, you're kidding me.
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Speaker 3: So I'm very glad that others are catching up to
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Speaker 3: me and to others. And yes, it's the younger generations.
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Speaker 3: Although Christian nationalism is seeing an uprising in young people
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Speaker 3: through people like Turning Point USA and other college based
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Speaker 3: groups that are going out to college campuses and stirring
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Speaker 3: up this Christian nationalism. It's dangerous. If I were president,
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Speaker 3: it would not be allowed. I don't care about free
21:57
Speaker 3: speech when it comes to that, and I mean that
22:00
Speaker 3: I think there are times where you allow free speech
22:02
Speaker 3: and there are other times where you say that's corrupting society.
22:07
Speaker 3: And that's the tightrope our founders walked as well when
22:10
Speaker 3: it came to free speech. But so you know, you
22:13
Speaker 3: got people like Erica Kirk out there or is it
22:16
Speaker 3: that new comic, because boys, he does he do a
22:18
Speaker 3: good Erica Kirk and she's suing him and she can't
22:22
Speaker 3: because obviously she's never watched Saturday Night Live. Parody is protected.
22:28
Speaker 3: I don't know a black comic. You probably don't know this,
22:30
Speaker 3: but a black comic did white face and even though
22:33
Speaker 3: he's heavy, he was trying to imitate all Christian nationalist women,
22:38
Speaker 3: but he just got Erica Kirk spot on and she's
22:42
Speaker 3: so furious about it. And turning point, USA is furious
22:45
Speaker 3: about it, and you know they want to sue and
22:48
Speaker 3: everything because maga. And this goes around the world, by
22:51
Speaker 3: the way, and we talk a lot about gay rights
22:54
Speaker 3: around the world. When someone takes a stand in a
22:57
Speaker 3: bully's face, the bully off in screen, they're the victim. Now,
23:01
Speaker 3: we saw that last week with Alan Richson and his
23:04
Speaker 3: video when the actor I don't know if you know
23:07
Speaker 3: who he is, big gorgeous Alan Richson, he was driving
23:10
Speaker 3: his motorcycle with his kids and some maga Karen well
23:14
Speaker 3: Mail came out in front of him and actually got
23:17
Speaker 3: in front of the moving motorcycle. So he went down.
23:20
Speaker 3: He asked the guy, you know are You're fucking crazy?
23:22
Speaker 3: And the guy starts wagging a finger at him, and
23:24
Speaker 3: you can't be driving around this neighborhood that fast. And
23:27
Speaker 3: I've called the police and you've been doing this for
23:29
Speaker 3: two days. And Alan's like, you know what, leave me
23:31
Speaker 3: the fuck alone, and he picks up his bike and
23:33
Speaker 3: goes to leaving. The guy pushes him down again. Now
23:36
Speaker 3: this is a six foot five, two hundred and forty
23:38
Speaker 3: pounds action hero, Okay, So Alan got up and beat
23:42
Speaker 3: the shit out of the guy. So the next thing,
23:45
Speaker 3: the guy is on TMZ being the victim. Oh yes,
23:48
Speaker 3: I was just trying to protect the neighborhood from the
23:50
Speaker 3: horrible motorcycles. And all we had was the neighbor's view
23:54
Speaker 3: of the altercation, which looked like Alan was beating the
23:56
Speaker 3: shit out of him. Well, then Alan released the go
23:59
Speaker 3: pro foot from his own camera and everybody saw that
24:03
Speaker 3: it was this other guy's fault. In fact, the police
24:05
Speaker 3: not only said they weren't going to file charges, they
24:08
Speaker 3: said that Alan could file charges against the neighbor if
24:12
Speaker 3: he wanted to, for assault. And you know, the neighbor
24:16
Speaker 3: was doing his interview on TMC with his MAGA hat
24:18
Speaker 3: right behind him, And that's just so indicative of who
24:21
Speaker 3: these people and who bullies are. A bully gets in
24:24
Speaker 3: your face, they yell, they screem, they condemn you, and
24:27
Speaker 3: then if you stand up to them and show you're
24:30
Speaker 3: not afraid, or you retaliate against them, then suddenly they're
24:34
Speaker 3: the victims. And this happens worldwide, you know, and particularly
24:38
Speaker 3: with LGBTQ issues. You know, when gays stand up and
24:42
Speaker 3: get in people's face, they don't like it, you know,
24:44
Speaker 3: and suddenly they're the victims. Well, I'm just doing what
24:47
Speaker 3: the Lord wants me to do, and I'm just following
24:49
Speaker 3: the Bible, or I'm just you know, whatever the excuses
24:52
Speaker 3: they come up with. But then suddenly they're the victim
24:55
Speaker 3: of the mean gay. Well look at Shilah Buff. I
24:57
Speaker 3: had to beat up people because there were three gay
24:59
Speaker 3: men and one touched me. And I'm afraid of big
25:02
Speaker 3: gay men. I'm like, are you You've been in Hollywood
25:05
Speaker 3: thirty years and you're afraid of big gay men. It's like,
25:08
Speaker 3: what the hell? I happen to think Shilah Buff as
25:10
Speaker 3: a repressed homosexual. But that's just me. In fact, I
25:13
Speaker 3: believe half the people that like Putin. I've always gotten
25:17
Speaker 3: a little gay vibe from Putin. He does all the skincare.
25:19
Speaker 3: He's out there riding horseback, you know, half naked, you know.
25:23
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like, if there was anyone, any world
25:27
Speaker 3: leader that was probably gay, I'd go with Putin before
25:30
Speaker 3: the Iotela myself. But you know that's just me. I
25:36
Speaker 3: was telling me left oh about three minutes.
25:43
Speaker 2: So this is also replicated in the United Kingdom. He
25:46
Speaker 2: missed the UK by Andrew Cops and their chief executives
25:49
Speaker 2: put it a little video coming on this too, because
25:52
Speaker 2: they've been challenging some Bible society or something for a
25:55
Speaker 2: year who's been claiming a religious revivalism in the UK,
26:00
Speaker 2: America and in the UK, counter to all known authoritative evidence,
26:06
Speaker 2: have been proclaiming a religious violism in religious media, in
26:09
Speaker 2: Christian media primarily. We've been seeing this and in influencers
26:12
Speaker 2: of that bent have been propounding this as if it's
26:16
Speaker 2: truth and it has no factual backing. Well, and I
26:20
Speaker 2: see this repeatedly.
26:21
Speaker 3: You know, we live in the era now where you
26:23
Speaker 3: don't have to have facts to purport things as truth.
26:26
Speaker 3: We have a president that does that daily. He gained
26:28
Speaker 3: the system last week, he told friends that he was
26:31
Speaker 3: about to make an announcement that Iran and him were
26:34
Speaker 3: about to end the war. Ten minutes before he made
26:37
Speaker 3: that announcement, several people bought Bilt millions of dollars in
26:41
Speaker 3: stocks that then soared when he made the announcement, including
26:45
Speaker 3: his companies, and he gained the system for several billion dollars.
26:49
Speaker 3: They're reporting in the Guardian and other newspapers, not newspapers
26:52
Speaker 3: in the United States. But that whole announcement that the
26:55
Speaker 3: war is winding down was a lie, and he told
26:58
Speaker 3: the lie to game the the stock market so it
27:01
Speaker 3: would soar and then they would make money. Then they
27:04
Speaker 3: sold and the stock market sank again. So you don't
27:07
Speaker 3: have to have facts in today's world, because here's the fact.
27:10
Speaker 3: Being gay or lesbian affects no one, hurts nobody, does
27:14
Speaker 3: not cause any political problems, does not raise prizes at
27:17
Speaker 3: grocery stores, does not cause gas to go up, does
27:20
Speaker 3: not start wars. Being gay or lesbian buyer trands doesn't
27:24
Speaker 3: harm anybody at all. Is nobody else's business. And that
27:28
Speaker 3: is universal in every country around the fucking globe. And
27:33
Speaker 3: every week we come out here and talk about stories
27:35
Speaker 3: as if being gay actually affected these countries' bottom lines,
27:40
Speaker 3: as if being gay in Africa actually affects the fact
27:43
Speaker 3: that they're fucking third world countries that can't even supply
27:45
Speaker 3: clean drinking water to their people. You know, worry more
27:48
Speaker 3: about famine and drought and less about dick sucking, you know.
27:52
Speaker 3: I mean this, This is the world that we live
27:55
Speaker 3: in now, where they make things important that aren't important.
28:00
Speaker 3: Saying about Christian nationalism is the same thing as lying
28:03
Speaker 3: about the detriment that gays and lesbians due to civil society.
28:08
Speaker 3: It's a lie. They've been telling this lie for the
28:12
Speaker 3: longest time, thousands of years. They've been telling a lie
28:16
Speaker 3: that somehow being gay is bad for society. It's we
28:20
Speaker 3: would have already seen those results. There's been gay people
28:23
Speaker 3: since humans, you know, so we haven't seen these results.
28:28
Speaker 3: We haven't seen any societies fall because of gay people.
28:32
Speaker 3: We've seen no nothing, No drought has been caused by
28:36
Speaker 3: a gay person, No famine has been caused by a
28:38
Speaker 3: gay person. There is not trans people in America that
28:41
Speaker 3: are driving up the prices at the pump. It is
28:43
Speaker 3: not a trans person that bombed Iran. It is not
28:46
Speaker 3: a gay person that started the genocide between Israel and Gaza.
28:51
Speaker 3: We really aren't consequential to the world's happenings, and yet
28:56
Speaker 3: every week you and I find stories from all around
28:58
Speaker 3: the globe that would make you, I think we're one
29:00
Speaker 3: of the biggest drivers of wars, drought, famine. You know,
29:04
Speaker 3: these gay people, they're causing all this trouble and we're not,
29:08
Speaker 3: and we don't And the only people that concern themselves
29:12
Speaker 3: with it are people that have something to gain. So
29:16
Speaker 3: when you look at this story about Christian nationalism and
29:19
Speaker 3: European you know, Christian movement and how they're lying, why
29:23
Speaker 3: are they doing that. They're doing that because they have
29:25
Speaker 3: something to gain, A for fundraising, to raise money, b
29:30
Speaker 3: to try to get political clout and get candidates from
29:33
Speaker 3: their movement in office. But it's never about what they
29:37
Speaker 3: say it's about. It's certainly not about being godly. Christ
29:40
Speaker 3: would love Gaze period, end of story. He'd hang out
29:44
Speaker 3: with them, he'd party with them, he would love them
29:47
Speaker 3: because Christ, if you believe the myth, went behind the
29:51
Speaker 3: temple to administer to the people that were back there
29:54
Speaker 3: and who were back there, unwed mothers, gay people, the
29:57
Speaker 3: outcast of society. That's who made his apostles and made
30:03
Speaker 3: his group. That's who he hung with. And so this
30:06
Speaker 3: notion that in religion that being gay is in some
30:09
Speaker 3: way against the Lord is just a distorted view of religion.
30:14
Speaker 3: It Christ never spoke about it, you know, Yahweh, God,
30:19
Speaker 3: Jehovah didn't put it on the tablets. So it's all
30:22
Speaker 3: made up by man. The hatred, the notion that man
30:26
Speaker 3: would speak for God and speak about what God likes
30:30
Speaker 3: and does not like. That's the most absurd thing to
30:34
Speaker 3: me in the world, that there's a human on this
30:37
Speaker 3: planet that believes in the deity, who then would presume
30:41
Speaker 3: to speak for that deity about what that deity condones
30:45
Speaker 3: and does not condone. Let the deity tell us what
30:49
Speaker 3: they condone and do not condone. In the Bible, there's
30:52
Speaker 3: nothing about being gay. I don't care what anyone tells you.
30:54
Speaker 3: There's nothing about being gay in the Bible. I don't
30:57
Speaker 3: know about the Koran. I know. The Koran is just
30:59
Speaker 3: an extent the Bible. It's like the next book. You know.
31:03
Speaker 3: Muslims believe in the Bible, they just don't believe. They
31:06
Speaker 3: believe Christ was a prophet and not not the son
31:09
Speaker 3: of God, and They believe the ultimate prophet was the
31:11
Speaker 3: prophet Mohammed, and that he wrote the Quran, which was
31:14
Speaker 3: then the definitive book. Jews believe in the Taumud and
31:19
Speaker 3: the Torah, which is the Old Testament of the Bible.
31:21
Speaker 3: But it's all around the same book and the same myth,
31:25
Speaker 3: and in most of those myths and books, being gay
31:28
Speaker 3: is just not mentioned. And so they use it for hatred,
31:32
Speaker 3: they use it for fundraising, dividing people, conquering and promoting
31:37
Speaker 3: their own agendas. That's what they do. And they lie.
31:42
Speaker 3: They lie for a living. I have never encountered moral
31:45
Speaker 3: lives than Christian love. You know. I always say there's
31:48
Speaker 3: no love like Christian I mean, there's no hate like
31:50
Speaker 3: Christian love. And this rise that they say is happening,
31:56
Speaker 3: they know it's not. And so in finishing, it's like here,
32:01
Speaker 3: if Maga or Donald Trump says something, takes a stand
32:07
Speaker 3: about something, you can bet the opposite of that is true.
32:11
Speaker 3: If they author the Clean Air Bill, you can bet
32:14
Speaker 3: it's going to dirty the air. If they author the
32:17
Speaker 3: Queen like the Save America Act they're trying to do
32:20
Speaker 3: for voter id and all of that, that's going to
32:23
Speaker 3: harm America, not save America. Every organization says so, so
32:28
Speaker 3: they always whatever they say, it's actually the opposite. So
32:31
Speaker 3: if these nationalists are saying, oh, christian is rising in
32:35
Speaker 3: the UK and Christianity's rising in the United States, you
32:38
Speaker 3: can bet it's just the opposite because that's that's their
32:41
Speaker 3: mo that's their stock in trade.
32:44
Speaker 2: To your point of what, there's no hate like Christian love.
32:47
Speaker 2: I believe the maype apocryphal, but I believe there is
32:50
Speaker 2: a real quote from Nietzsche that what's something to the effect,
32:54
Speaker 2: it's not their love that prevents hims from harming us.
32:58
Speaker 2: I know, it's it's the tints of their love that
33:01
Speaker 2: prevents them from harming us.
33:03
Speaker 3: Similar it's you know, it's I and I grow weary.
33:07
Speaker 3: I do you know, just this last week, and I'll
33:11
Speaker 3: say I'll close with this here with you because you're
33:15
Speaker 3: gonna I don't. I don't want you to take this
33:18
Speaker 3: in any way, but the way it's meant. I could
33:20
Speaker 3: give a fuck about gay news from around the world.
33:24
Speaker 3: I could, I could care. I really don't care. I
33:26
Speaker 3: don't care about Donald Trump, I don't care about Maga,
33:29
Speaker 3: I don't care about Vladimir Putin. I could give two shits.
33:32
Speaker 3: Let him drop dead tomorrow, and I could give a
33:34
Speaker 3: I just just give a fuck about all of these
33:36
Speaker 3: Ugandans and all these ubangi stomp people passing, all these
33:39
Speaker 3: loss I don't care about that. What I care about
33:43
Speaker 3: is the people that they affect. That's what I care about.
33:47
Speaker 3: It's why I do a show. It's why I don't
33:50
Speaker 3: change and just go off and be a singer and
33:53
Speaker 3: stand up comic or whatever, because I care so deeply
33:57
Speaker 3: about the gays in Russia who are affected this. I
34:00
Speaker 3: don't care about Vladimir Putin, people come and go. I
34:04
Speaker 3: care about the people he affects. I don't care about
34:07
Speaker 3: the Ugandan policy or the Somali policy. I care about
34:13
Speaker 3: the people that it affects. And so I come from
34:18
Speaker 3: the standpoint of caring about the individual. And I you know,
34:22
Speaker 3: I'm gay. I know what suffering for being gay is.
34:26
Speaker 3: Others have suffered worse. I mean, you know, Oscar Wilde
34:30
Speaker 3: had to go lift rocks for years for you know,
34:32
Speaker 3: being gay. You know, so, I mean, others have suffered
34:35
Speaker 3: more than I. But I care about the people I
34:38
Speaker 3: don't care about because all the machinations above us, they're
34:43
Speaker 3: always there, They just same shit, different day. They passed
34:46
Speaker 3: with this law, and then they repeal it, and then
34:48
Speaker 3: they passed that law, and then they repeal it, and
34:50
Speaker 3: then they then you make five steps forward and then
34:52
Speaker 3: you take thirty steps back. That's just that's the way
34:54
Speaker 3: it's always been. So I don't care about all that.
34:58
Speaker 3: I care about the people that get caught in in
35:00
Speaker 3: all of that. And if talking about this can inspire them,
35:04
Speaker 3: if educating them about what's going on in the world
35:07
Speaker 3: can motivate them, if bringing these stories forward can help anybody,
35:13
Speaker 3: or change someone's mind or get someone involved or make
35:17
Speaker 3: them vote a certain way, then it's worth talking about them.
35:21
Speaker 3: Because the stories are always going to be the same, Scott,
35:26
Speaker 3: you're in your thirties. When you're sixty and I'm ninety,
35:29
Speaker 3: we could still be doing this because it's still not
35:32
Speaker 3: going to be a paradise for gays in the world.
35:37
Speaker 3: So the stories are never going to change. But it's
35:39
Speaker 3: how it affects the people. And if by telling them
35:42
Speaker 3: these things, if we can inspire them or show them
35:44
Speaker 3: that they're not alone, or show them that there's others
35:47
Speaker 3: helping them in the fight, or showing them that they're
35:49
Speaker 3: making small incremental gains like in Poland. You know, it's
35:53
Speaker 3: not a big gain, but at least they're recognizing same
35:56
Speaker 3: sex marriage now. So if reporting on that can act
36:00
Speaker 3: inspire someone in Poland to not give up, then it's
36:03
Speaker 3: worth it. You know, It's that it's worth paying attention
36:07
Speaker 3: to these things. Otherwise I could give two shits about it,
36:10
Speaker 3: because that hatred's always there, whether it's hatred towards me
36:14
Speaker 3: or towards you for being Canadian or white or your whatever.
36:17
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm so sorry about the Canadian plane
36:20
Speaker 3: that crashed. Some of your people died, and I'm so
36:23
Speaker 3: very sorry about them running into a fire truck in LaGuardia.
36:26
Speaker 3: But we have a president who doesn't prioritize air traffic
36:29
Speaker 3: controllers and or other airport workers. And this is what
36:33
Speaker 3: happens when you, you know, don't do that. So I
36:36
Speaker 3: thought of you the minute that happened. I thought, oh
36:38
Speaker 3: my god, I know someone from Canada, and I know
36:39
Speaker 3: this has to really affect them when they lose, you know,
36:43
Speaker 3: people from their country in a terrible plane crash. So
36:46
Speaker 3: I apologize about that, and I fully blame Donald Trump
36:49
Speaker 3: for what happened. You know, air traffic controllers are overworked,
36:52
Speaker 3: they're underpaid. And this guy made a mistake, he said
36:55
Speaker 3: on the tape. I messed up, you know, so and
36:59
Speaker 3: people died. Uh, And so I'm really sorry about that
37:02
Speaker 3: happening to Air Canada because we don't need one more
37:05
Speaker 3: reason for you guys to not want to come here.
37:09
Speaker 2: Well, Eric, Canada lost my luggage one time.
37:11
Speaker 3: So well, at least they didn't run into a fire truck.
37:15
Speaker 2: True, that's also true.
37:18
Speaker 3: Okay, well are we out of? Are we out of?
37:20
Speaker 3: Were there any good? Was there any good gay you know?
37:23
Speaker 3: In America? This week? I tried to think was there
37:24
Speaker 3: any good gay news? And there really wasn't. Kansas has
37:28
Speaker 3: taken back the trans driver's license. It's been it's been
37:33
Speaker 3: a really bad week globally for LGBTQ people. And I
37:36
Speaker 3: have to tell you, as long as Trump is in power,
37:40
Speaker 3: and we don't know how long that will be, because
37:42
Speaker 3: if the Democrats win the midterms, there's a very real
37:44
Speaker 3: chance he'll resign or get impeached. But as long as
37:48
Speaker 3: he is in power, I think we're going to have
37:52
Speaker 3: a never ending supply of bad stories and very few
37:55
Speaker 3: good ones from both the United States and the rest
37:58
Speaker 3: of the world because we tend to export our hatred.
38:01
Speaker 3: I think once the regime changes and perhaps democrats get
38:05
Speaker 3: in control here. And we saw in France the hard
38:10
Speaker 3: right one in smaller cities or a place like Nice,
38:13
Speaker 3: but then in the larger cities the centrist and the
38:17
Speaker 3: left and the socialists still won. But we do see
38:20
Speaker 3: the world swinging to the right in Germany and other places.
38:27
Speaker 3: So I think we're on a pendulum swing right now
38:29
Speaker 3: for gay people, and unfortunately, I think we're on the
38:32
Speaker 3: side that's swinging for bad. But we will one day
38:38
Speaker 3: start going the other way again. I just don't know
38:40
Speaker 3: when that's going to be. I think it could be years.
38:43
Speaker 3: It could be years before, not just in America, but
38:47
Speaker 3: in France and Germany and other places. We don't just
38:51
Speaker 3: stay at the level we're at that we actually progress.
38:54
Speaker 3: I think it's going to take some time, you know, And.
39:01
Speaker 2: You're going to our stars with the Ukraine.
39:02
Speaker 3: Time won't give me time, you know?
39:06
Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean the best. I mean, here's a
39:09
Speaker 2: weird positive those point out to me about Ukraine. I
39:11
Speaker 2: don't know if I told you this was the one before,
39:12
Speaker 2: but basically, some LGBT people here who've been in the
39:16
Speaker 2: news here or have been organizers.
39:19
Speaker 3: First, yes, i'll sell your article on the good Man probably, oh.
39:22
Speaker 2: You said, yeah. So basically they were telling me also
39:24
Speaker 2: that they they have these alternationalists guys, these heterosexual men
39:29
Speaker 2: in their twenties and thirties, right, sort of primar life.
39:32
Speaker 2: So they there, but because they're alternationalists, they're also super
39:37
Speaker 2: gonna hell about the army and so they go to
39:39
Speaker 2: the front line. And so the irony is that those
39:42
Speaker 2: that are women or that are under whatever recruitment age
39:47
Speaker 2: is for the draft, they are in the city and
39:50
Speaker 2: they're gay or lesbian or bay or whatever, and there's
39:53
Speaker 2: fewer of these alternationalist guys to harass them, because what
39:56
Speaker 2: they would do is they would go to Kiev prime,
39:58
Speaker 2: they take photos of the people taking part in the celebration,
40:03
Speaker 2: share their photos on Telegram as an archive. Then they
40:07
Speaker 2: would harass them down the street when they could identify
40:10
Speaker 2: them after keep Bret and so there there's.
40:14
Speaker 3: Actually we're kind of doing that around the world and
40:16
Speaker 3: it's getting very dangerous. And the sad part is that
40:22
Speaker 3: gays and I know we have to go here, but
40:25
Speaker 3: the sad part is that gay set themselves up in
40:27
Speaker 3: some ways for this. And I'm not saying we should
40:29
Speaker 3: hide on the contrary, but we have reported on the
40:35
Speaker 3: gay cruise apps where straight you know, assholes are going
40:42
Speaker 3: on there seeing the gay guys, arranging to hook up
40:46
Speaker 3: with them and then beating them. They're also copying their
40:51
Speaker 3: photos from the apps and posting them on social media,
40:55
Speaker 3: saying this guy's gay, this guy's gay, you know if
40:57
Speaker 3: you see this guy in their groups, in their little
41:01
Speaker 3: hate groups there. So they're going on Grinder ironically and
41:07
Speaker 3: grabbing photos and then bringing those photos into their hate
41:10
Speaker 3: group and saying, yeah, look at this guy on Grinder
41:12
Speaker 3: and look at you know. They're also getting blowjobs to
41:15
Speaker 3: make no mistake, but you know, so there is a
41:18
Speaker 3: lot of that happening where gays are attending events being
41:22
Speaker 3: photographed and then those photos are being used to actually
41:25
Speaker 3: harm them. Or gays are going online to dating apps
41:30
Speaker 3: and putting their photographs and those photographs are then being
41:33
Speaker 3: harvested and used against them. Uh, and so there is
41:39
Speaker 3: you know, nowadays, you go on these gay apps and
41:41
Speaker 3: a lot of them have blank photos, and they won't
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Speaker 3: they they'll send you a PI their picture after they
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Speaker 3: start talking to you. But they don't have their picture up,
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Speaker 3: or they just have a picture of a body part
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Speaker 3: like their nipple or their you know, their their aps
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Speaker 3: or whatever, but they don't have their face. And part
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Speaker 3: of the reason is they're afraid if they put their
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Speaker 3: face on the app that an employer will see it
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Speaker 3: or someone else will grab it and put it on
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Speaker 3: their social media and say, hey, look at this queer.
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Speaker 3: You know. So that's happening a lot. It's not just
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Speaker 3: happening in Ukraine where they're showing up, taking pictures and
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Speaker 3: then using those pictures to identify us later and harm
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Speaker 3: us that time ago. There's more photos of me on
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Speaker 3: the web than there are the Kardashians, so you know.
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Speaker 2: The Kardashians, not the star trek Ones, the k and they.
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Speaker 2: I remember when I was in the Canadian uh military
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Speaker 2: under the Navy and basic training, and I remember those
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Speaker 2: the small, individualized take crimes. You don't trace them easily
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Speaker 2: except when you see them individually, and you don't. People
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Speaker 2: just don't report them because.
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Speaker 3: Like with the hat, what's the point of it, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: what's the point. But I remember I've had many a
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Speaker 3: hate crime committed to me that I have not reported
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Speaker 3: to the police, because I thought, what's the point, They're
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Speaker 3: not going to do anything. They're not.
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Speaker 2: It's also in community. I mean that one guy, there's
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Speaker 2: another gentleman and basically said, some guy he did something stereotypically.
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Speaker 3: So you were in the Canadian Navy slunger story.
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Speaker 2: So then he goes, no, no, no, no, no, you can't.
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Speaker 3: Just drop in basic training.
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Speaker 2: You were the gentleman. So this gentleman at lunch one
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Speaker 2: time goes, I thought he might be a faggot. So
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Speaker 2: this is quoting. You know, I don't use it word myself,
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Speaker 2: but that like it was. It was the tone right,
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Speaker 2: and the and the and the vector of the intent
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Speaker 2: that was really telling about that kind of thing, because
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Speaker 2: you felt gross after they said it.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I have a great thought for that. By the way,
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Speaker 3: when someone looks at me goes, you faggot, I'm all, honey,
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Speaker 3: that's not an insult, it's an observation. It's like, is
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Speaker 3: that the best you got? You know? Is that is
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Speaker 3: that all you got? That's that's the best you can do?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a well cooked steak. You've you've heard
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Speaker 2: this a lot.
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Speaker 3: You well, I always say in my stage show, you know,
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Speaker 3: you can call me anything you want, but call me
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Speaker 3: a Republican and we're going to fight. Ah, you know,
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Speaker 3: but any other you know, anything else that's fucking faggot, queer, whatever,
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Speaker 3: there's nothing you can call me. I haven't been called before.
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Speaker 3: But call me a Republican. We're going to do that.
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Speaker 3: We we're having we're coming to blows.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll explore your military career at another point.
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Speaker 3: But I truly want to hear about this, horses. No,
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Speaker 3: I want to see the uniform. I want to see
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Speaker 3: you in the uniform.
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Speaker 2: And you know, oh I got uniform over pictures.
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Speaker 3: Ye see, put those on grinding.
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Speaker 2: I'd be grinding more than what's that that popular rap song? Grinding?
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Speaker 3: Uh?
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Speaker 2: Grind? And who's it? Bye? It's a Canadian guy? Oh no,
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Speaker 2: it's by Clips, but he also sung.
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Speaker 3: It with You have Canadian rappers?
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Speaker 2: Uh, let's find out.
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Speaker 3: Do they say a boot? They might just remember? Most
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Speaker 3: Canadian that I know is from South Park, Terrence and Philip.
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Speaker 3: What do Canadians think of Terrence and Philip?
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Speaker 2: Oh it is Cardinal Ophie Shall. He was a famous Canadian.
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Speaker 2: Yeah he's Uh, it's like it's spelled like k.
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Speaker 3: A R d I N A L A relative of mine?
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Speaker 2: Yes, right O F F I s h A L
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Speaker 2: L apostrophe. I think so, Cardinal Opie Shall and so
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Speaker 2: the whole song is about grind and and you know,
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Speaker 2: do you have any.
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Speaker 3: Gay pop stars in Canada? We must, I mean, well
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Speaker 3: one doesn't pop to mind.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well they've prey gone to the to l.
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Speaker 3: A and stuff, right, Okay, Katie Lang, I forgot she.
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Speaker 2: Was Jayla Mack. And then gay actors Elliot Page nationally.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh Elliott's yeah, he's he's a boy now but
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Speaker 3: he I didn't know Elliott was Canadian. Yeah, but but
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Speaker 3: those those are Canadians that became international stars. I was wondering,
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Speaker 3: like if you had Canadian gay Canadian, like who are
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Speaker 3: you know? Like like Anastasia, she's hugely popular in the
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Speaker 3: UK but and and the rest of the world, but
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Speaker 3: she's from America, but you'd never know it. And the
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Speaker 3: same with Emily Sonday. Emily Sonde is enormous in the
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Speaker 3: UK and Scotland all that, but over here in America
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Speaker 3: she can't get arrested. So I was wondering if you
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Speaker 3: had like a big pop star there that's gay, that
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Speaker 3: isn't like Graham Norton. Most Americans do not know who
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Speaker 3: Graham Norton is, but yet Graham Norton is enormously you know,
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Speaker 3: hughe you know who Graham Norton is. Of course, yes,
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Speaker 3: I mean gram Norton. He's me, even me if I
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Speaker 3: had lived in the UK and got my talk show
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Speaker 3: back in the day.
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Speaker 2: Kind of yeah. He but his talk show formats it's
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Speaker 2: quite interesting and a little bit unique with his because
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Speaker 2: he sits quick. It seems to quit far actually from him.
47:12
Speaker 2: And then he has a television the side. But then
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Speaker 2: he always has three guests at a diagonal and so
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Speaker 2: you have, yeah, change.
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Speaker 3: During COVID, and they never changed it back. They kept
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Speaker 3: it that way. He sat during COVID. They spread everybody
47:25
Speaker 3: out and so they ended up liking that. But what
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Speaker 3: I like about his show is he how do I
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Speaker 3: say this, His research department is the best. But it's funny.
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Speaker 3: We do the gay topics every week, and then I
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Speaker 3: asked you if you have a gay Canadian pop star,
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Speaker 3: kind of get that. Either that speaks Canada's tolerant about
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Speaker 3: LGBT people where they could don't make it, or it
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Speaker 3: means Canada Scott when they came to you entertainment, that
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