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Trans Children and The Supreme Court · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Interior chuckle because EVERY time I Hear, east palestine it occurs.
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  Speaker 1: To me it's not a matter, of dialects because around
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  Speaker 1: the country people talk. Different ways, You, know california people
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  Speaker 1: have their way of talking. About Things pavid, Down say
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  Speaker 1: you have got their way though everybody. Talks different it's
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  Speaker 1: not a dialect issue as much as a, pronunciation ISSUE
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  Speaker 1: and i always chuckle because, you know we have a
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  Speaker 1: train Wreck In east palestine and It Becomes. East, palestine
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  Speaker 1: however everywhere else on, THE planet i Think. It's Palestine,
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  Speaker 1: And lima Ohio Was lima ohio my, entire, life until
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  Speaker 1: of course There Was lima company in, the news in
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  Speaker 1: which case It Was. Lima company and now We're, like
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  Speaker 1: peru Where It's lima peru. As well We've, Got, lancaster
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  Speaker 1: ohio We, Have. LANCASTER pennsylvania i just it's Weird how americans,
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  Speaker 1: WE have i, don't know kind of divided up our
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  Speaker 1: language to the point where the same words are pronounced
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  Speaker 1: different ways in. Different places and EVERY time I Hear,
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  Speaker 1: EAST palestine i get a little chuckle out. Of that
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  Speaker 1: out of our our weirdness when it comes To the.
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  Speaker 1: ENGLISH language i was talking to a student and foreign
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  Speaker 1: student today as part Of a i'm chairing a scholarship
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  Speaker 1: committee for My Beloved West, high school and so we
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  Speaker 1: were interviewing kids today and we were talking about one
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  Speaker 1: of them who is from a family where she has
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  Speaker 1: spoke she speaks, two languages and just talking about the
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  Speaker 1: difference in pronunciations of things and the Fact that english.
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  Speaker 1: Is difficult She speaks Spanish and english. Right now she
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  Speaker 1: wants To learn french because she liked To, visit paris.
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  Speaker 1: She said and we're talking about the similarities Between the
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  Speaker 1: european languages and how easy it is to transfer from
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  Speaker 1: one to, the next because something they have in common
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  Speaker 1: is all the masculine and. Feminine nouns, you know it's
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  Speaker 1: lu and La, in france and it's l and la
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  Speaker 1: In the spanish, speaking COUNTRIES and i THINK it's i
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  Speaker 1: think it's la, in law or maybe it's l in
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  Speaker 1: Law in italian. As Well, but america it's the everything
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  Speaker 1: is the we just have the there is no there's
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  Speaker 1: no lu. Or law it's the no masculine, or feminine
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  Speaker 1: Just the and that's why, IT'S difficult, i think to
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  Speaker 1: transition from from one Of those european Languages to english,
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  Speaker 1: because again while it's we consider it to, BE simplified
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  Speaker 1: i think it's more difficult for those people to understand
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  Speaker 1: that we do not have masculine or. Feminine nouns and
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  Speaker 1: by the, same token they come here and they have
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  Speaker 1: to Learn that Lancaster and lancaster are spelled exactly the
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  Speaker 1: same and pronounced. Completely different where you're talking, about.
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  Speaker 2: Well not having masculine or feminine nouns, as interesting that
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  Speaker 2: means a lot of our language is.
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  Speaker 1: Non binary, well exactly it identifies. As, that yeah they
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  Speaker 1: come here and they have to understand that EYE, and
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  Speaker 1: a YE and i are all pronounced. The same and
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  Speaker 1: there's two two, and two and and, there's uyou there's
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  Speaker 1: u e. W e we are. So, many yeah they're
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  Speaker 1: there and there we're. Messed up it's amazing we can
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  Speaker 1: talk to. Each, Other really. I'm sorry silly stuff like
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  Speaker 1: that sticks to. Me sometimes do you ever think about
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  Speaker 1: language or do you just kind of mumble your way
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  Speaker 1: through life and don't worry?
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  Speaker 2: About, It, NO no i think about it, too sometimes
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  Speaker 2: especially to to, and TWO because i Was teaching charlie
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  Speaker 2: that not too, long ago difference between two two. And
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  Speaker 2: Two but i've heard people who, have, said like it's
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  Speaker 2: the different pronunciations and different meanings of, the words even
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  Speaker 2: though it might be pronounced, the same can be confused
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  Speaker 2: in or takes a while to catch. On too and
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  Speaker 2: then there's different dialects and.
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  Speaker 1: Different whatever and not only do we have the different
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  Speaker 1: with two two, And two not only do you have the,
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  Speaker 1: different meanings but some of them have more like too could.
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  Speaker 1: Mean also it could also mean, in excess you have,
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  Speaker 1: too much you have, too few, You know but it
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  Speaker 1: could ALSO be i want to. Come too so, it's it,
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  Speaker 1: we man were. Messed up we should just go, to
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  Speaker 1: signs just hold up signs, for you but then we'd
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  Speaker 1: have to use the words ON the i don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: To do speaking of the way our, language identifies the
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  Speaker 1: way that people identify in the State of ohio is
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  Speaker 1: once again under the enforcement of What was, issue one
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  Speaker 1: And The Ohio supreme court has reinstated the enforcement of
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  Speaker 1: this ban on gender affirming care for minors while it's
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  Speaker 1: still being worked out in. The court they had decided
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  Speaker 1: to make it, legislature passes that governor, signs it And
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  Speaker 1: The Ohio supreme court is app app you can't. Enforce
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  Speaker 1: that we're gonna have a challenge of. The constitutionality blah.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah and now now in a four, To five,
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  Speaker 1: i'm sorry four to, three decision. They reversed they reversed.
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  Speaker 1: That decision. I'm sorry it was a, lower court was
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  Speaker 1: it a appellate court that said you could So The
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  Speaker 1: supreme court reversed the appellate court at a four to,
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  Speaker 1: three decision saying that until this, is finalized until this has,
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  Speaker 1: worked out what was passed by the legislature and signed
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  Speaker 1: by the governor will be the law of the land
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  Speaker 1: in the State. Of ohio and what that means is
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  Speaker 1: that if you are under eighteen years, of age you are.
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  Speaker 1: A minor you are not. An adult that. You're not
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  Speaker 1: you can't go in and have anything lopped off or
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  Speaker 1: added on or whatever because you've Decided to you've decided
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  Speaker 1: to identify as. SOMETHING else, I personally i don't think
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  Speaker 1: this is a. BAD thing i. Really don't and this
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  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with discrimination OR whether i, approve
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  Speaker 1: of or like or understand the lifestyle or. Anything else
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  Speaker 1: this is, about kids as Far as. I'm concerned kids
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  Speaker 1: who cannot that's a decision that for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: your life you have to. Be right we don't let
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  Speaker 1: them decide who, should be, you know mayor of the
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  Speaker 1: city or president Of The. United states we Don't let
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  Speaker 1: we don't let them go out on. Their own they
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  Speaker 1: have to have. Adult supervision they have to be accountable
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  Speaker 1: to an authority of some sort until they reach eighteen
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  Speaker 1: years of age and are considered to be considered to be.
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  Speaker 1: AN adult i don't see allowing a fourteen year old
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  Speaker 1: kid to decide that they want to alter, their body alter,
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  Speaker 1: their self there being their existence in a way that once,
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  Speaker 1: it's done. It's done this isn't, About prohibiting this is.
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  Speaker 1: About protecting as Far as, I'M concerned.
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  Speaker 2: I think it also. GOES along i think it's along
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  Speaker 2: the same lines as consent for people who are the children. That, can't,
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  Speaker 2: yeah regardless for a lot, of things and that should,
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  Speaker 2: be one and that's to.
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  Speaker 1: Protect children and, if, indeed seriously, here's, yeah Okay so i'm,
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  Speaker 1: extrapolating this but society works in. This way once you
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  Speaker 1: get away, with something you get away with. Something Else.
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  Speaker 1: All right if we were, to decide, say it a
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  Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen year old kid can make a decision to
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  Speaker 1: lop something off and get a hormonal treatment and have
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  Speaker 1: some implans and identify as a woman when they were
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  Speaker 1: born as. A male why then can a thirteen year
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  Speaker 1: old kid decide they want to have sex with the
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  Speaker 1: guy down.
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  Speaker 2: The, street yeah or run for office or drive there.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever exactly there have to be there have to be
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  Speaker 1: some guidelines here what you can and. Cannot do and
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  Speaker 1: if you want to argue with me and tell me
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  Speaker 1: that the a thirteen year old kids should be allowed
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  Speaker 1: to change their gender or the appearance, of gender at
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  Speaker 1: least that they should be allowed to decide to have.
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  Speaker 1: Sex with, you know some old man down the street
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  Speaker 1: that stares at children when they're out playing on. The
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  Speaker 1: playground if that's okay, with YOU then i would submit.
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  Speaker 1: To you then a thirteen year old should have a
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  Speaker 1: glock on. Their hip, oh no you need to be twenty.
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  Speaker 1: One dollars, no, no, no no no, no no no.
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  Speaker 1: No no if the, rule applies the. Rule applies you
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  Speaker 1: can't have it. Both ways you cannot have It both
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  Speaker 1: you can't be old enough to decide whether or not
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be a male or a female, in
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  Speaker 1: appearance but not be old enough to have a constant
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  Speaker 1: a right to carry? A FIREARM would? I mean do
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  Speaker 1: you see my, Point here zach is it's, Not this this.
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  Speaker 1: Is logic take emotion out, of it take a genda out,
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  Speaker 1: of it and just look at. It LOGICALLY am i
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  Speaker 1: not making? Sense now you?
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  Speaker 2: Makes sense because you can't treat children. As adults do,
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  Speaker 2: you either treat people as adults. Or not that's why
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  Speaker 2: that line of demarcation of eighteen years old, is there
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  Speaker 2: and people below that. You can't you can't treat them
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  Speaker 2: the same way because they can't do. Certain, things AGAIN
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  Speaker 2: and i know this is it may, sound weird but
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  Speaker 2: the idea of consent is the. Same thing. You can't kids, can't,
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  Speaker 2: Go well i'm just going to go.
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  Speaker 1: Start, smoking, yeah hey, Why not i'm going to?
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  Speaker 2: Start drinking?
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  Speaker 1: Why not kid go? To kindergarten, you know light Up
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  Speaker 1: a marlborough? At recess? Why?
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  Speaker 2: NOT right, i mean if you're allowed to alter yourself
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  Speaker 2: surgically for the rest of your life at a, young
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  Speaker 2: age then they should be able to.
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  Speaker 1: Do anything and, let me let me take this a step.
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  Speaker 1: Even further what sort of disc closure should? Be required
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  Speaker 1: now we have long since passed the AGE. Of hiv
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  Speaker 1: people don't even talk about. That anymore but if, you,
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  Speaker 1: will recall if you're old enough, to recall there were
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  Speaker 1: some lawsuits, early eighties lawsuits people WHO were hiv positive
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  Speaker 1: and in fact had progressed on two aids acquired immune,
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  Speaker 1: deficiency syndrome who were having unprotected sex and not disclosing
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  Speaker 1: that they had, this affliction and they were essentially, you know,
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  Speaker 1: committing people, you know making.
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  Speaker 2: People, Die yeah i've heard some stories about some people
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  Speaker 2: who did that.
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  Speaker 1: On purpose there were no azt there were no cocktails at.
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  Speaker 1: That point it was a. Death sentence and so, uh
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  Speaker 1: yeah you were you could be taken to court over,
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  Speaker 1: you know the attempted murder or whatever for having sexual
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  Speaker 1: relations and not disclosing to who you were with that
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  Speaker 1: you had. This disease now let's let's again what happens
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  Speaker 1: when when your Your boy charlie or or, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my grandsons they, grow up they, become men they meet,
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  Speaker 1: a woman they fall, in love and they find out
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  Speaker 1: the woman Was. Born edgar what repercussions should there not
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  Speaker 1: be if you're going to change to that extent and
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  Speaker 1: pursue life as a female or, versus weis should you
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  Speaker 1: not have, some obligation if not legally then morally at
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  Speaker 1: least to DISCLOSE because I honestly i don't KNOW what
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  Speaker 1: i would do the.
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  Speaker 2: Two Things and i'm not trying to be. Rude here
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  Speaker 2: this is not is just. An observation most people who
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  Speaker 2: are transgendered from male to female not very.
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  Speaker 1: ATTRACTIVE women i think a lot of times it depends
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  Speaker 1: on it depends on how much money they have. To spend,
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  Speaker 1: quite crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's true that, being said you're being. INCREDIBLY dishonest i
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  Speaker 2: don't know how long a marriage can last if it's built.
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  Speaker 2: ON dishonesty, i mean you'd have to talk and do you? Want,
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  Speaker 2: kids well what are you going?
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  Speaker 1: To?
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  Speaker 2: Say, THEN well i can't get kids because then you
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  Speaker 2: have to make a lie if you're trying to hide the.
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  Speaker 2: Whole thing and.
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  Speaker 1: And the purpose of getting married for some people is to.
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  Speaker 1: Be parents they want to, have children they want to.
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  Speaker 1: Raise children if you get married and find out that
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  Speaker 1: you're married to somebody who was not a, biological female
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  Speaker 1: and now, you know if it's if it's a they're,
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  Speaker 1: a female and they've got, a problem the uterus won't, sustain,
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  Speaker 1: That right that's that's that's, You know god's hand or
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  Speaker 1: nature or whatever you want to. Call it but somebody,
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  Speaker 1: who absolutely absolutely positively cannot carry a child because they're,
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  Speaker 1: not women they don't have. A womb that, that's fraud.
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  Speaker 1: That's deception that that's all kinds. Of stuff that what
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  Speaker 1: might what might a new husband do to their spouse or?
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  Speaker 1: To themselves after finding Out, My god i'll never be,
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  Speaker 1: a Father and i've been having these relations with with
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  Speaker 1: someone who only looks like, a woman and what this
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  Speaker 1: these there's repercussions to.
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  Speaker 2: This. Stuff man there's also some PHYSICAL issues i THINK
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  Speaker 2: that i don't know how observant or how THEY there's
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  Speaker 2: i don't we're on, the radio scars and things, of that.
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  Speaker 1: YOU see i. Don't know i've tried not to think
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  Speaker 1: about that type of THING because i don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: YOU know i have no idea what you'd look for
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  Speaker 1: or NOT look i have. NO clue i KNOW believe
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  Speaker 1: i know quite a few. Gay people it JUST because
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  Speaker 1: I never i don't meet somebody, go oh, you're black,
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  Speaker 1: you're white You're, a Republican, your democrat, you're male, you're
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  Speaker 1: female you're, you're gay. YE'RE straight i don't meet people.
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  Speaker 1: LIKE that i just, meet people and, you Know so
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  Speaker 1: i'm trying out to. BE gay. I don't i. Don't
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  Speaker 1: CARE and i was a. Theater major so many of
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  Speaker 1: the PEOPLE that i knew between the ages of like
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty one were, theater people and there were
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  Speaker 1: quite a few. GAY people i knew some very effeminate
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  Speaker 1: men back Then, who FRANKLY if i think, about it
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  Speaker 1: in stage makeup and, so forth played very. Convincing women
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  Speaker 1: but the funny thing about each one, of them as
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  Speaker 1: they're popping through, my head they all had A huge adam's.
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  Speaker 1: Ample too so even though.
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  Speaker 2: Sopha, vehicle shave is that what they call.
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  Speaker 1: Their facial features were. Very feminine they had high, cheek
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  Speaker 1: bones and they were good, looking guys and if they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to live their life as, a woman they probably
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  Speaker 1: could with very very, little trouble except for That Whole adams.
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  Speaker 1: Apple thing, but there you know there the surgeries weren't evident.
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  Speaker 1: Back then it wasn't like something that was on every,
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  Speaker 1: every page every, news story. Every day it was. BEING done,
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  Speaker 1: I think i Think in Switzerland, or sweden one of.
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  Speaker 1: The other for the, longest time that's where you had.
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  Speaker 1: To go and if you wanted to go through you
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. Happening here now it's, you know it's happening
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  Speaker 1: in a multitude of. Company countries and if a grown
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  Speaker 1: adult makes, that decision makes that choice that they want
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  Speaker 1: to appear as, something else then, You know god. BLESS
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  Speaker 1: them i don't, get It but.
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  Speaker 2: I'm SO happy i don't care.
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  Speaker 1: About. That children children cannot decide whether they want To
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  Speaker 1: Schedule american History or european history. Next semester they can't
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  Speaker 1: be deciding something. Like that that's JUST where i am