Latest / INSPIRE STORY / #0145_ STORY INSPIRE: Fat Activism and the Culture of Comedy
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the, I have gray in
- 0:02Speaker 1: my hair. I got to stop.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I got to, I, I, I went to the hairstylist
- 0:07Speaker 2: today to get the gray out and I walked in
- 0:10Speaker 2: and just immediately left because I could see that it
- 0:14Speaker 2: was going to be a horror and I like West
- 0:17Speaker 2: Hollywood salons or it's like, A lot of very peppy
- 0:20Speaker 2: gay men and very like brain dead women and gay men.
- 0:24Speaker 2: It's like that unholy alliance of gay men and very
- 0:27Speaker 2: stupid women.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Yeah. And everyone's very perky. And I just said I
- 0:31Speaker 1: can't even do this.
- 0:32Speaker 2: But I'm taping a special on Saturday and I want
- 0:36Speaker 2: to look like I'm 17 years old. So I want
- 0:38Speaker 2: to get some of the gray out. Because I have
- 0:40Speaker 2: nice hair, but it's gray.
- 0:42Speaker 1: It becomes a problem.
- 0:43Speaker 3: You have a great head of hair.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It's all I have. It doesn't matter. You know what
- 0:48Speaker 1: I mean? It has no effect. It's like I have
- 0:51Speaker 1: nice eyes. You know what I mean?
- 0:53Speaker 3: You do.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Yeah, great.
- 0:54Speaker 3: You're a handsome guy.
- 0:56Speaker 1: That's lovely.
- 0:57Speaker 4: You are.
- 0:57Speaker 1: I do well with older women and lesbians.
- 1:00Speaker 3: I find myself attracted to you, which is weird.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
- 1:03Speaker 2: And you know, Maureen at TruTV always wanted to fuck,
- 1:06Speaker 2: you know? You know, it's always like, you know, it's
- 1:09Speaker 2: always like, ah.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Jessica Curson is the funniest woman in America.
- 1:14Speaker 1: I really believe that.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Oh, that's so nice.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Everyone, Rogan and me, we all talk about it. You are.
- 1:20Speaker 2: And we just say you destroy at the Laugh Factory.
- 1:22Speaker 2: You destroy everywhere you go. If you're not following Jessica,
- 1:25Speaker 2: you should. It's at Jessica Curson on Twitter. It's very
- 1:28Speaker 2: fucking simple. It's very easy. And she's on the road
- 1:32Speaker 2: all the time. You're on the road, and we were
- 1:34Speaker 2: just talking about the hell that the road is.
- 1:36Speaker 3: It's horrific.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:37Speaker 3: It's a nightmare.
- 1:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:39Speaker 3: It's a fucking, I mean, it's why I do it,
- 1:40Speaker 3: because I'm a miserable fucking person, so it's very familiar
- 1:44Speaker 3: for me.
- 1:44Speaker 1: It's, you get into a good rhythm.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't think I'd be okay
- 1:50Speaker 3: if I wasn't doing that, because it would be just boring.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Well, it's also, we're addicts.
- 1:55Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:55Speaker 1: And addicts love, like, a depressing hotel.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Horrible coffee. It tastes like urine.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Or ass juice. Urines actually would taste better than what
- 2:07Speaker 3: the coffee tastes like.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about a nice depressing hotel.
- 2:10Speaker 2: There's something about standing on the side of the road
- 2:12Speaker 2: and just watching cars pass by that there's something soothing
- 2:17Speaker 2: about that to people that are very fucked up. And
- 2:20Speaker 2: like you said to me, how many bags do I bring?
- 2:22Speaker 2: Because I'm going away for a month. I'm like, I
- 2:23Speaker 2: don't bring any. I just go to the DXL, the
- 2:26Speaker 2: fat store and I buy three black, three XL shirts
- 2:30Speaker 2: and sometimes I just throw them out.
- 2:33Speaker 3: I just picture you like just throwing them just on
- 2:35Speaker 3: the street.
- 2:36Speaker 2: No, I look like a terrorist when I get on
- 2:38Speaker 2: the plane because I have nothing. I mean, I have
- 2:41Speaker 2: nothing and I look like a guy that's on the
- 2:44Speaker 2: brink of something.
- 2:45Speaker 1: So they kind of size me up. They literally sometimes
- 2:47Speaker 1: will go, that's all you're bringing. I go, yeah.
- 2:49Speaker 2: And then I just have to drive in the fat store.
- 2:51Speaker 2: DXL is always 30 to 40 minutes out of a city.
- 2:54Speaker 2: because they're ashamed of it as they should be. So
- 2:57Speaker 2: they put it so far out into the suburbs, you
- 2:59Speaker 2: have to drive 30 minutes. It's not even in the suburbs,
- 3:02Speaker 2: it's in something called the exurbs, which is like.
- 3:04Speaker 1: 45 minutes out. That's the new term.
- 3:07Speaker 2: For it, where it's so far out that you have
- 3:11Speaker 2: to keep driving past all the Paneras, and then you
- 3:16Speaker 2: get there finally. And you get the three shirts and
- 3:20Speaker 2: then you wear them and you throw them out or
- 3:21Speaker 2: you bring them back or whatever.
- 3:23Speaker 3: What if you're in like Europe or something? Do they
- 3:25Speaker 3: have like fat stores?
- 3:27Speaker 2: Let me tell you right now, I will wear one outfit.
- 3:29Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. No, I'm going to
- 3:31Speaker 2: have to pack for Europe.
- 3:33Speaker 3: You have to pack for Europe.
- 3:34Speaker 2: I'm not going to be home before Europe. So I
- 3:37Speaker 2: have to buy clothing and luggage first.
- 3:40Speaker 3: Well, they might have like a Bed Bath & Beyond.
- 3:43Speaker 3: You can get like curtains or something.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:45Speaker 2: No, I'm going to go to Europe and I will
- 3:49Speaker 2: not be able to purchase anything.
- 3:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:51Speaker 2: So I have to then like cover myself. You've been
- 3:54Speaker 2: doing comedy a bit, a long time.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I started in 99. So I've been in this
- 3:58Speaker 3: nightmare of a situation for 23 years.
- 4:00Speaker 5: Right.
- 4:06Speaker 2: When you started, were people smoking in comedy clubs? Was
- 4:09Speaker 2: it that type of environment? What kind of environment was it?
- 4:13Speaker 3: No, they weren't smoking, but they were laughing and you
- 4:15Speaker 3: could say anything you wanted.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:18Speaker 3: I started during that time.
- 4:19Speaker 2: That time.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Yeah, when you were free to say whatever you wanted.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Yeah, people came to laugh.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Yeah, and they didn't think about every joke.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Right, now they analyze.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Yeah, now I say something and there's this moment of like,
- 4:30Speaker 3: is it okay to laugh at that? Right.
- 4:31Speaker 4: So.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Yeah, but you see what I do. I just plow
- 4:34Speaker 3: through it.
- 4:34Speaker 2: You don't care.
- 4:35Speaker 3: You either laugh or you.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Don't, you know.
- 4:37Speaker 1: That's why everybody respects you is you just don't give
- 4:39Speaker 1: a fuck.
- 4:40Speaker 3: I do a little bit, but I don't, I just
- 4:44Speaker 3: have to just do it. And it's like, whatever happens,
- 4:47Speaker 3: happens at this point. You gotta just go. I'm barely functioning, so.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I now go up in place. Sometimes, obviously, I go
- 4:53Speaker 2: up in rooms where people don't know me. I've had
- 4:55Speaker 2: the luxury of going up in a lot of rooms
- 4:57Speaker 2: where people know me now because they come to see me.
- 5:00Speaker 2: It's so much more fun. And then I go out
- 5:03Speaker 2: and I say something. And then there's like a soccer
- 5:05Speaker 2: mom who's like, you know what I mean? And who
- 5:07Speaker 2: thinks she's an environmentalist because she has a Tesla. Never
- 5:10Speaker 2: mind where that lithium ion comes from.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Whatever. Who cares? But they make the face. You know,
- 5:16Speaker 1: they do the whole thing.
- 5:18Speaker 2: And it's like, and I'm not even attracted to women.
- 5:20Speaker 2: So for me, I have no, you know, there's nothing there.
- 5:25Speaker 2: I go, we're on a bad date. And it's, it
- 5:27Speaker 2: will end soon enough and then we'll just be done
- 5:30Speaker 2: with it.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:31Speaker 1: You know? Yeah.
- 5:32Speaker 3: It's, I mean, people have completely lost their minds. We
- 5:35Speaker 3: were just talking about that, especially here in LA. It's,
- 5:38Speaker 3: I mean, we're both sober, and I feel like I've
- 5:40Speaker 3: taken 70 drugs, things that aren't even, I don't know
- 5:44Speaker 3: what's going on.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Well, people here in L.A. will say they're sober, but
- 5:47Speaker 1: they do all of the drugs.
- 5:48Speaker 3: They're on crack. I said that to you. People will say,
- 5:51Speaker 3: I'm California sober. I'm like, you're on crystal meth. You're
- 5:54Speaker 3: literally just shot up.
- 5:55Speaker 2: People will tell you they do shrooms, and none of
- 5:57Speaker 2: the people doing shrooms are having any of the revelations
- 6:00Speaker 2: you'd hope they'd have.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Like none of these people are like progressing in any
- 6:05Speaker 2: area of their life.
- 6:06Speaker 5: No.
- 6:06Speaker 2: They're taking shrooms, they're going to Joshua Tree, they're sitting
- 6:09Speaker 2: out under the stars.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:11Speaker 2: And I don't know what's happening. I don't know if
- 6:12Speaker 2: they're taking DMT and the aliens are appearing. I don't
- 6:14Speaker 2: know if they're arguing with the aliens or the aliens
- 6:16Speaker 2: are like, Here's the way it is. And they're like, well, actually,
- 6:18Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, but none of it is...
- 6:23Speaker 2: Were you ever tempted to be like, oh, I can
- 6:25Speaker 2: be sober, but do psychedelics?
- 6:27Speaker 3: No. To me, being sober is sober. I can't do
- 6:31Speaker 3: anything because it always leads to other... That's right. If
- 6:33Speaker 3: I start smoking pot, I'm going to suck a guy's
- 6:35Speaker 3: cock on the street corner and like.
- 6:39Speaker 3: I mean, and I'm gay. This is not good. I
- 6:43Speaker 3: can't do anything. It's not a good situation, no matter what.
- 6:46Speaker 3: I can't do anything.
- 6:48Speaker 1: But there's struggles. The struggles are food.
- 6:50Speaker 3: Everything.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Everything's a struggle.
- 6:52Speaker 3: I'll do anything. I'm a garbage can. Yeah, I'm out
- 6:54Speaker 3: of my mind.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Everything's a struggle.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:56Speaker 1: When did you get sober?
- 6:58Speaker 3: I mean, I've been in and out for years, you know,
- 7:01Speaker 3: but there's been times when I've had, you know, six
- 7:04Speaker 3: years at a time, eight years at a time. But again,
- 7:07Speaker 3: anytime I thought I could do a little something.
- 7:09Speaker 1: And what usually gets you? Like, what's the thing?
- 7:11Speaker 5: Pot.
- 7:12Speaker 3: So that's why I'm saying like people that say I'm sober.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I've done that with cigarettes.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I've quit cigarettes 30 to 40 times in my life.
- 7:20Speaker 4: Really?
- 7:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:21Speaker 1: I was six years off them once.
- 7:23Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Cigarettes are tough. It's very tough.
- 7:27Speaker 1: It's brutality.
- 7:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 7:29Speaker 1: And they're not even fun. Here's the thing about cigarettes.
- 7:31Speaker 1: They're disgusting.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Yeah. They smell bad. You feel horrible. You, when you
- 7:36Speaker 2: don't smoke, you feel so much better.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:38Speaker 2: But it is the, it's one of the greatest products
- 7:41Speaker 2: because it can raise the price of it.
- 7:43Speaker 1: They tell you, it kills you in 19 different ways.
- 7:46Speaker 2: And no matter how long, like I used to be
- 7:48Speaker 2: five years without a cigarette and I'd see somebody smoking
- 7:50Speaker 2: a cigarette.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I go, damn.
- 7:51Speaker 3: I know.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Damn, that looks good.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Everyone misses them. It's a very oral thing. It's calming.
- 7:58Speaker 3: It's tough. That was the hardest. Believe it or not,
- 8:01Speaker 3: I think that was the hardest thing I ever had
- 8:03Speaker 3: to quit.
- 8:04Speaker 1: It was very hard.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Very hard to quit.
- 8:06Speaker 1: It was very hard. And I don't, thank God now
- 8:09Speaker 1: I don't do it.
- 8:11Speaker 3: But I know I'm really proud of you. I'm proud
- 8:15Speaker 3: of you for quitting.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I have said to people in L.A., I don't smoke
- 8:18Speaker 2: cigarettes anymore while smoking a cigarette.
- 8:20Speaker 1: And they've looked at me and went, good job, man.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're so self-involved. They're not even noticing that
- 8:24Speaker 3: you're smoking.
- 8:25Speaker 5: Right.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Disgusting.
- 8:26Speaker 1: That's kind of the benefit of living here.
- 8:27Speaker 2: You lie to each other's faces and everyone believes that.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 8:31Speaker 3: You can say I don't drink anymore while you're downing
- 8:34Speaker 3: a beer. And people are like, that's great. So happy
- 8:37Speaker 3: for you. I could face fuck myself with like a
- 8:42Speaker 3: donut and be like, I don't eat sugar. And they're like,
- 8:44Speaker 3: that's great. With like powder all over my face. No
- 8:47Speaker 3: one listens to anyone here. It's not, they're not even.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Nobody's even paying attention. What do you think makes us addicts?
- 8:54Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Is it nature? Is it nurture?
- 8:57Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of things. I mean, I
- 9:01Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know if I was born this way.
- 9:03Speaker 3: I mean, I'm from a family of food addicts, so I,
- 9:05Speaker 3: you know.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I'm from drunks. I'm Irish Catholic. We're from drunks. We're
- 9:10Speaker 1: from repressed sexuality.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I have an aunt who, you know, has never been
- 9:13Speaker 2: with a man, and she wears men's shoes, and You
- 9:17Speaker 2: know what I mean? Not because she's a lesbian, because
- 9:19Speaker 2: they're more comfortable, you know?
- 9:21Speaker 1: And, you know, and.
- 9:23Speaker 3: She wears a strap on.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Yeah, she had, like, a special friend in college.
- 9:27Speaker 1: They were very close. So it's like.
- 9:29Speaker 3: Men's shoes is my favorite.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, she walks around the house, like,
- 9:34Speaker 2: storming around in, like, men's shoes. So it's, this is,
- 9:38Speaker 2: we come from these places that have, my mother's a schizophrenic,
- 9:43Speaker 2: you know, and, you know, but now the country is
- 9:46Speaker 2: caught up to her. Like we locked her up 20
- 9:49Speaker 2: years ago, but now everyone is kind of saying what
- 9:52Speaker 2: she said for years.
- 9:53Speaker 1: So it's like I talk to regular.
- 9:55Speaker 2: People and they say things similar to what my mother
- 9:58Speaker 2: has said because the country has now become kind of
- 10:00Speaker 2: schizophrenic too. It is, totally.
- 10:03Speaker 1: So we should let her out.
- 10:04Speaker 3: You should let her out. She'd fit right in.
- 10:06Speaker 2: I said just let her out.
- 10:06Speaker 1: She'll be fine.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Just send her to the Capitol and buy her a
- 10:10Speaker 2: fucking Viking hat.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Send her in there.
- 10:12Speaker 3: She'll shit on the desk and it'll be totally normal.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:18Speaker 2: What is your, because a lot of people call me
- 10:20Speaker 2: and they go, or not call me, but they message
- 10:23Speaker 2: me and they go, what is the best way to
- 10:25Speaker 2: get sober?
- 10:26Speaker 1: I did AA for a while. I should go to
- 10:28Speaker 1: more meetings. I don't really go to too many meetings.
- 10:32Speaker 2: What is the best way in your estimation to change
- 10:35Speaker 2: your life from being a drug addict or an alcoholic
- 10:42Speaker 2: or a food addict, or whatever, to being sober?
- 10:45Speaker 3: Kill yourself. No, I hate... Jump in front of a car. No,
- 10:54Speaker 3: this is honestly... It's a hard question. I hate saying this,
- 10:59Speaker 3: because it's annoying, but the program is the only way
- 11:02Speaker 3: that has worked for me.
- 11:02Speaker 1: It really is the only way.
- 11:04Speaker 3: And I'm a child of a therapist... I've been to
- 11:08Speaker 3: every single therapy, every fucking therapist, done everything. And it
- 11:13Speaker 3: always comes back to that. It's the only way for
- 11:16Speaker 3: me that that's worked.
- 11:18Speaker 1: No, you're right.
- 11:18Speaker 3: And I also think, you know, being honest and working
- 11:22Speaker 3: with other alcoholics and helping people and getting out of
- 11:25Speaker 3: my own head because I'm a selfish motherfucker. It's a
- 11:29Speaker 3: lot of things. But working the program and working the
- 11:32Speaker 3: steps has been the only way I've been able to
- 11:34Speaker 3: stay sober. And I've tried a lot of other things.
- 11:37Speaker 3: I've tried. I've tried doing it on my own. I've
- 11:38Speaker 3: tried everything. I'm the most sane when I work another program.
- 11:43Speaker 3: I mean, work a program. And I hate saying that
- 11:47Speaker 3: because I hate having to have something that helps me. Like,
- 11:50Speaker 3: I have to do that.
- 11:51Speaker 2: See, Ben was lucky because he didn't need the program.
- 11:54Speaker 2: I'm the program for him.
- 11:56Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:56Speaker 2: So it's very lucky. Sometimes people have a mentor that
- 11:59Speaker 2: comes in. Not everyone is lucky enough to have someone
- 12:02Speaker 2: like me who's relentlessly positive and life-affirming.
- 12:06Speaker 3: Oh, Ben, you're so lucky.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:09Speaker 2: It's a real treat. But, I mean, what happened to
- 12:12Speaker 2: the doctor the other day? He said to you, he
- 12:14Speaker 2: took all your blood. He said you were healthy.
- 12:16Speaker 1: And then what did he say?
- 12:16Speaker 6: Well, I am low on vitamin D, he said. I'm
- 12:19Speaker 6: deficient on that. But he said my biggest health risk
- 12:21Speaker 6: is just relapsing.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:24Speaker 6: He goes, don't look up the numbers on it, but
- 12:27Speaker 6: the rate of relapse is severely high.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Yeah, doctors are always positive here.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Very high. Are you sober, Ben?
- 12:33Speaker 1: I am sober.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Four years.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Wow, that's great. Tim helped me. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah.
- 12:40Speaker 2: It's a fun, it's a fun, we have, it's an
- 12:44Speaker 2: AA meeting every day here.
- 12:45Speaker 1: I miss AA. I miss Long Island AA.
- 12:48Speaker 3: If you guys don't work the program, you must be
- 12:51Speaker 3: at each other's throats sometimes.
- 12:52Speaker 2: We're not at each other's throats. There's a lot of tension.
- 12:55Speaker 2: We should work the program. That's something we should do more.
- 12:57Speaker 1: I did. I did the steps. I did everything.
- 13:00Speaker 3: Yeah, it works.
- 13:01Speaker 1: It does work.
- 13:02Speaker 2: It's good, especially, you know, in early sobriety and even
- 13:05Speaker 2: long-term sobriety, you have to do it.
- 13:08Speaker 3: Especially in long-term sobriety because you get, you know, once
- 13:12Speaker 3: you're comfortable, you get cocky. Yeah, exactly.
- 13:14Speaker 1: And you go, it'll be okay.
- 13:15Speaker 2: And especially in this, in this business that we're in, it's,
- 13:18Speaker 2: you know, people tend to be, yeah.
- 13:21Speaker 3: There's good support with comics. There's a lot, there's a
- 13:23Speaker 3: bunch of sober comics and there's a very big support system,
- 13:27Speaker 3: you know? Um, and it's, it's helpful because this business
- 13:31Speaker 3: is just makes me want to, you know, shoot up
- 13:34Speaker 3: heroin into my anus. Makes me want to put a
- 13:38Speaker 3: needle in my asshole.
- 13:39Speaker 2: You have a beautiful wife who's lovely, who I've met.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Thank you, yeah, she's great.
- 13:45Speaker 1: And you have children. What's it like raising kids in
- 13:47Speaker 1: this world?
- 13:48Speaker 3: I'm never home, so I don't even raise them. So
- 13:50Speaker 3: it's really, as long as they're attractive, that's all I
- 13:54Speaker 3: care about. Thank God they're pretty. I have four daughters
- 13:58Speaker 3: and they're all stunning. Thank God. Because I really.
- 14:00Speaker 2: One of your daughters is an amazing singer. I mean,
- 14:02Speaker 2: these are talented people.
- 14:03Speaker 3: Yeah. Zoe is almost 16. She goes to, we live
- 14:06Speaker 3: in Long Island. So I love that connection to you.
- 14:09Speaker 3: And she goes to the school for performing arts there
- 14:11Speaker 3: half the day. She's an amazing actress and singer.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Do you ever, do you ever like worry about her
- 14:16Speaker 1: getting into the business?
- 14:17Speaker 3: Yes. But she does, you know, they don't get as
- 14:20Speaker 3: affected by the rejection and shit. She's pretty. And she
- 14:23Speaker 3: has an agent. She's a buckwalled and she auditions all
- 14:25Speaker 3: the time. I mean, she does get bogged down by it,
- 14:28Speaker 3: but she's pretty good with it. But yeah, of course.
- 14:32Speaker 3: And there's so many girls that look at her. She's
- 14:34Speaker 3: a stunning, dark hair, blue eyes. There's a lot of
- 14:39Speaker 3: girls that look like her, and a lot of stuff
- 14:42Speaker 3: is going to other people. Girls now, that's the truth.
- 14:48Speaker 3: So there's that, and then I have a six year
- 14:49Speaker 3: old daughter and I have twin three year olds. I
- 14:52Speaker 3: have two baby mamas, it's fucking crazy.
- 14:54Speaker 1: It's wild.
- 14:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:56Speaker 1: And do you get along with both of them?
- 14:57Speaker 3: I do, I do. I'm lucky, I have a good situation.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I can't believe I have all these kids. I never
- 15:04Speaker 3: thought I'd have one kid, but I couldn't say no.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Now, did you do surrogate? Did you do.
- 15:08Speaker 3: We did in vitro. So each of them, you know,
- 15:12Speaker 3: my ex, Shari, had Zoe, and then Danielle, my current wife,
- 15:16Speaker 3: had Isabella, Madison, and Charlotte.
- 15:18Speaker 1: And you've had none of them?
- 15:19Speaker 3: No, I would never have a kid. I'd feel like
- 15:21Speaker 3: I was, like... I'm very male in a lot of ways,
- 15:25Speaker 3: so I've never... for one second thought of carrying a child.
- 15:29Speaker 3: Like I would feel like I was an alien.
- 15:31Speaker 2: I think all day about being implanted and carrying a child.
- 15:35Speaker 3: Really?
- 15:36Speaker 1: Yes.
- 15:36Speaker 2: I think it's an inevitability that I get pregnant and
- 15:39Speaker 2: have a child.
- 15:40Speaker 5: Wow.
- 15:41Speaker 1: I could see you being pregnant. No, I really like
- 15:45Speaker 1: the idea.
- 15:46Speaker 2: I like the idea of being entitled and angry and
- 15:48Speaker 2: having cravings and calling Ben at 3 a.m.
- 15:50Speaker 1: And go, get me pickles. And he goes, I buy
- 15:54Speaker 1: all these dumb houses and shit and stuff. I don't
- 15:56Speaker 1: even live in them.
- 15:57Speaker 2: It's just because I'm an addict, so I just love
- 15:58Speaker 2: real estate. I just love realtors and going in and
- 16:01Speaker 2: out of houses, going to open houses.
- 16:03Speaker 1: We go to open houses. That's our AA.
- 16:05Speaker 2: And but it's also good to put money in play
- 16:08Speaker 2: because my business manager will steal.
- 16:10Speaker 1: And I mean, he's a sweetheart, but he'll steal.
- 16:12Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:12Speaker 2: And I think he's pretty, you know, I mean, the
- 16:14Speaker 2: first time we met him, he'd come from five guys.
- 16:16Speaker 2: He had mustard on him. I said, oh, he'll take
- 16:19Speaker 2: our money as soon as we have enough of it.
- 16:20Speaker 2: You know, he's he's talking about racing NFT horses. I mean,
- 16:23Speaker 2: the guys he's on the ledge.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:26Speaker 2: And so what would you know? But that's something like,
- 16:30Speaker 2: you know, Ben always tells me, like, don't do this.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Don't do this.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Don't.
- 16:32Speaker 1: You don't need this. You're not even going to enjoy it.
- 16:35Speaker 2: But I think it'll be funny when I have a
- 16:36Speaker 2: baby in me and Ben will be like, I told
- 16:38Speaker 2: you not to do this.
- 16:39Speaker 3: What would you rather have, a girl or a boy?
- 16:41Speaker 3: Just so we can know. Because you can kind of
- 16:43Speaker 3: plan that.
- 16:44Speaker 1: I'd like a girl.
- 16:45Speaker 3: Okay.
- 16:46Speaker 2: And I'd like a girl because I have the perfect
- 16:50Speaker 2: idea of.
- 16:50Speaker 1: What a woman should be.
- 16:52Speaker 3: I think you know more than anyone.
- 16:54Speaker 1: I know what a woman should be.
- 16:55Speaker 2: And with guys, you know, they kind of just go
- 17:00Speaker 2: their own way. I have a real idea of what
- 17:05Speaker 2: a woman should be in my estimation.
- 17:07Speaker 3: And what should a woman be? Or just some examples.
- 17:10Speaker 3: I'm curious.
- 17:12Speaker 2: You know, my dream daughter is a very cold and
- 17:19Speaker 2: withholding woman.
- 17:21Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah. No. And I'm attracted to that.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:24Speaker 2: A very, you know, pretty, or even if she's not
- 17:27Speaker 2: pretty cold and withholding. And I feel like there's too
- 17:32Speaker 2: much nurturing going on right now.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:35Speaker 2: And I, I think women should go back to being
- 17:37Speaker 2: cold and withholding and.
- 17:39Speaker 1: A little aloof.
- 17:41Speaker 2: I like a woman who smokes a cigarette and stares
- 17:43Speaker 2: at the sky. I like a little aloofness. There's too
- 17:47Speaker 2: People are, it's overdone now. And I like that. And
- 17:51Speaker 2: I don't know how I would create that in a person,
- 17:53Speaker 2: but I would try.
- 17:54Speaker 3: You can definitely, you can damage her.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that would be the goal.
- 17:57Speaker 3: And intimacy issues.
- 17:59Speaker 1: That would be the hope.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't hug her too much. And if you're
- 18:03Speaker 3: very inconsistent, that would help.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Because I think that those types of women... select an
- 18:09Speaker 2: appropriate mate because there's a lot of women that make
- 18:12Speaker 2: very bad decisions with who they choose to spend their
- 18:16Speaker 2: lives with.
- 18:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 18:17Speaker 2: And I think I would like my daughter to be
- 18:20Speaker 2: kind of really evaluate a guy on a bunch of
- 18:22Speaker 2: different levels and go, I'm getting into a partnership with you.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Does it make sense? Yeah.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Do you ever worry that your daughters may choose, uh,
- 18:33Speaker 2: to be with someone who's not good?
- 18:35Speaker 3: Yes.
- 18:37Speaker 5: A lot. Right.
- 18:38Speaker 1: A lot.
- 18:40Speaker 3: You know, Zoe, I trust Zoe. Zoe's very like free
- 18:47Speaker 3: spirited and like, yeah, and kind of a little, you know,
- 18:52Speaker 3: she thinks everyone's good and kind of like naive a
- 18:56Speaker 3: little bit. So that scares me. But I'm very like
- 18:58Speaker 3: clear with her. And so is my ex about how
- 19:00Speaker 3: like people can be really horrible and evil at times.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Cause that's honest, you know, that's real. And I'm like,
- 19:06Speaker 3: you gotta be really careful. Like people are not.
- 19:09Speaker 2: What's good is like you're involved. My family's always been
- 19:12Speaker 2: so uninvolved in my life.
- 19:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:14Speaker 2: They're not involved in any respect. Like my dad is
- 19:18Speaker 2: a fan of mine, but it's like, he's not, he's
- 19:21Speaker 2: not involved. He doesn't really ask like, is it what's
- 19:23Speaker 2: going on? Are you dating someone? Do you feel okay?
- 19:26Speaker 1: Are you alive?
- 19:27Speaker 2: It's very much like he'll call me and go, David
- 19:29Speaker 2: Spade mentioned you on Howard Stern. Isn't that cool?
- 19:31Speaker 3: It's all about the business.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about the business, which is fine, right?
- 19:36Speaker 2: But it is– I was raised by the worst generation
- 19:42Speaker 2: of people on earth, the boomer. And the boomer did–
- 19:46Speaker 2: and I've conducted an exhaustive survey of the boomer. The boomer,
- 19:51Speaker 2: not all of them, but a lot of them, it
- 19:53Speaker 2: was a generation of terribly selfish people. Yeah. Terribly selfish
- 20:00Speaker 2: that are constantly aggrieved. Their entire lives have been a struggle,
- 20:06Speaker 2: even though when you look, it hasn't been. Houses were cheap,
- 20:10Speaker 2: cars were cheap. The land was theirs to pillage and
- 20:14Speaker 2: they did.
- 20:14Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:16Speaker 1: And they believed that kids were obstacles.
- 20:18Speaker 2: To their own fulfillment and their fulfillment involved golf and wine.
- 20:23Speaker 2: It was not per se, you know, they were like,
- 20:29Speaker 2: they were the hippies and they.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Just turned hard away from that.
- 20:34Speaker 2: And they kept all, because hippie, you know, that culture
- 20:36Speaker 2: was all about like, exploring yourself and, but it had
- 20:40Speaker 2: a lot of spiritual components. So what they did when
- 20:43Speaker 2: they came out of that is they, they kept the
- 20:45Speaker 2: self obsession that that culture had and lost all of
- 20:50Speaker 2: the spirituality and just became very selfish people.
- 20:53Speaker 1: And I'm not, I'm not saying anything.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Bad about, um, my parents other than the fact that
- 20:58Speaker 2: they like, shouldn't have been parents.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think most people, I think a lot
- 21:03Speaker 3: of people shouldn't be parents.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Right, but I'm happy they were or tried.
- 21:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't abusive. They didn't burn me with cigarettes.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Well, I think I know a lot about your life.
- 21:13Speaker 5: Yes.
- 21:13Speaker 3: And you had a tough time. It was tough.
- 21:15Speaker 1: It was not the best.
- 21:17Speaker 3: It wasn't.
- 21:18Speaker 1: It was not the best.
- 21:19Speaker 3: It wasn't.
- 21:19Speaker 2: But my parents have let me know that a lot
- 21:22Speaker 2: had to do with me.
- 21:23Speaker 3: I know.
- 21:23Speaker 1: It was my fault.
- 21:24Speaker 3: I know, which is horrific, right? It's horrific. Now, now
- 21:30Speaker 3: the outcome is your brilliance.
- 21:32Speaker 1: Well, that's very sweet of you to say.
- 21:33Speaker 3: That's very true. That's why you're so talented and brilliant.
- 21:38Speaker 3: And we become, I do think that I am funny
- 21:42Speaker 3: because I went through so much pain. I think that humor,
- 21:45Speaker 3: I don't think, I know that humor comes from pain.
- 21:48Speaker 3: And I don't, I think the funniest people have been
- 21:51Speaker 3: hurt the most. That's my personal opinion. You know, when
- 21:54Speaker 3: people go on stage and they're so fucking funny, I'm like,
- 21:57Speaker 3: that person has gone through shit.
- 21:59Speaker 5: Right.
- 21:59Speaker 2: For sure.
- 22:00Speaker 3: I really believe that.
- 22:01Speaker 1: For sure. You ever look at comics, you haven't been
- 22:04Speaker 1: through anything, and you go, what are you doing?
- 22:06Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I'm like, you're too okay.
- 22:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:08Speaker 1: You're like, why are you doing this?
- 22:09Speaker 3: There's so many comics who are just clever. I never
- 22:13Speaker 3: laugh at clever comedy.
- 22:14Speaker 2: No.
- 22:15Speaker 3: And people do. Like, they'll do well on stage.
- 22:17Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 22:17Speaker 2: Louie said something great once. It's like, I forget, did
- 22:19Speaker 2: Louie say it? I forget who said it.
- 22:21Speaker 1: I think it was Louie.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Where it was like, it's comedy for people who went
- 22:23Speaker 2: to Vassar.
- 22:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 22:25Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:25Speaker 2: It was some, it might not have been Louis, but somebody,
- 22:27Speaker 2: it was like that type of where it's like, it's very,
- 22:31Speaker 2: it's very well thought out.
- 22:33Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 22:33Speaker 3: I've never laughed at Seinfeld. Now he's a great writer.
- 22:36Speaker 3: I've never once laughed at him.
- 22:38Speaker 2: Here's the most brilliant thing. Cause he's technically one of
- 22:40Speaker 2: the most brilliant comics. I'm sure he'd love me. That's sarcastic. But, um,
- 22:47Speaker 2: what the one time I really laughed at him is
- 22:49Speaker 2: he did a speech for the Cleo advertising awards where
- 22:53Speaker 2: he goes, it was the funniest thing that I've ever
- 22:57Speaker 2: seen him do because it was the most real. Ben
- 22:59Speaker 2: can get it up. This is him being the most
- 23:03Speaker 2: real I've ever.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Hold on one second. This is him being the most
- 23:05Speaker 1: real I've ever seen.
- 23:08Speaker 2: It is one of my favorite things I've ever seen
- 23:10Speaker 2: a comic do because the thing with him is some
- 23:13Speaker 2: of his jokes are so technically brilliant.
- 23:15Speaker 3: They're brilliant. He's a brilliant writer.
- 23:18Speaker 1: But there is sort of... You feel like... you feel
- 23:21Speaker 1: like you don't know him at all.
- 23:23Speaker 3: That's my thing. That's what I'm saying. This is just
- 23:25Speaker 3: my personal opinion.
- 23:26Speaker 2: But here, if you watch this, this to me is
- 23:30Speaker 2: one of the best things because now I do kind
- 23:32Speaker 2: of feel like I know him if you watch this.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Right.
- 23:36Speaker 5: I am excited to win this. This is the award
- 23:41Speaker 5: they give you when they don't think you can actually
- 23:43Speaker 5: win one. But they think you've done a pretty good
- 23:47Speaker 5: job and seem to have been around for quite some time.
- 23:51Speaker 5: And that's how I got it.
- 23:54Speaker 1: I would like to.
- 23:54Speaker 5: Thank Ogilvy and Mather and American Express for getting me
- 23:57Speaker 5: into this business. That was the first time I did it.
- 24:02Speaker 5: I would like to thank my manager, George Shapiro, my
- 24:06Speaker 5: incredible wife, Jessica, and Amirati for keeping me going. I
- 24:14Speaker 5: love advertising because I love lying. In advertising, everything is
- 24:23Speaker 5: the way you wish it was. I don't care that
- 24:27Speaker 5: it won't be like that when I actually get the
- 24:29Speaker 5: product being advertised because in between seeing the commercial and
- 24:33Speaker 5: owning the thing, I'm happy.
- 24:37Speaker 1: And that's all I want.
- 24:39Speaker 5: Tell me how great the thing is going to be.
- 24:42Speaker 1: I love it.
- 24:43Speaker 5: I don't need to be happy all the time. I
- 24:47Speaker 5: just want to enjoy the commercial. I want to get
- 24:50Speaker 5: the thing. We know the product is going to stink.
- 24:53Speaker 5: We know that. Because we live in the world and
- 24:57Speaker 5: we know that everything stinks. We all believe, hey, maybe
- 25:01Speaker 5: this one won't stink. We are a hopeful species. Stupid,
- 25:08Speaker 5: but hopeful. But we're happy in that moment between the
- 25:13Speaker 5: commercial and the purchase. And I think spending your life
- 25:16Speaker 5: trying to dupe innocent people out of hard-won earnings to
- 25:20Speaker 5: buy useless, low-quality, misrepresented items and services is an excellent
- 25:26Speaker 5: use of your energy.
- 25:27Speaker 3: That's different than what he does.
- 25:32Speaker 1: That's right. This is why I love it. Keep watching.
- 25:34Speaker 1: This is great.
- 25:36Speaker 5: Because a brief moment of happiness is pretty good. I
- 25:41Speaker 5: also think that just focusing on making money and buying
- 25:45Speaker 5: stupid things is a good way of life. I believe
- 25:49Speaker 5: materialism gets a bad rap. It's not about the amount
- 25:54Speaker 5: of money. Nothing's better than a Bic pen, a VW Beetle,
- 25:57Speaker 5: or a pair of regular Levi's. If your things don't
- 26:01Speaker 5: make you happy, you're not getting the right things. This
- 26:05Speaker 5: will all be in my new book, Soulful Materialism, which
- 26:09Speaker 5: is in the planning stages at this moment. I have
- 26:17Speaker 5: always wanted a Clio. I don't know much about it.
- 26:23Speaker 5: But I know it's a good award. Because in 1991,
- 26:28Speaker 5: they screwed up this whole presentation, and there were a
- 26:32Speaker 5: bunch of awards left over, and all of these ad
- 26:35Speaker 5: people here climbed up onto the stage and tried to
- 26:38Speaker 5: grab them. So to me, that says this means something.
- 26:47Speaker 5: That really happened, and it's my all-time favorite award show
- 26:50Speaker 5: occurrence because it was so honest. People just said, I
- 26:54Speaker 5: want a damn Clio, and they went for it. And
- 26:59Speaker 5: that is why I am happy right now.
- 27:01Speaker 1: I got this.
- 27:03Speaker 5: I didn't really win it, but I got it. And tomorrow,
- 27:08Speaker 5: I don't know where this is going to be. It'll
- 27:09Speaker 5: be somewhere. Eventually I'll be dead, someone will just take
- 27:14Speaker 5: it or sell it or throw it out, and that's fine,
- 27:16Speaker 5: I'm happy now. The same way those executives were in
- 27:21Speaker 5: 1991 when they ran onto this stage and grabbed trophies
- 27:25Speaker 5: that weren't theirs.
- 27:32Speaker 1: But it trumped up their.
- 27:33Speaker 5: Phony careers and meaningless lives. So thank you all for
- 27:38Speaker 5: this great honor.
- 27:40Speaker 2: I saw that and I was like, this is like,
- 27:42Speaker 2: this moment.
- 27:43Speaker 3: It's real.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally real.
- 27:45Speaker 3: And dark.
- 27:46Speaker 1: And dark.
- 27:47Speaker 3: But he's not, I've watched him a million times.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not his usual thing.
- 27:51Speaker 3: It's safe and it's not real a lot. It's just.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different thing.
- 27:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 27:57Speaker 1: It's a different thing. What do you think?
- 27:59Speaker 2: Like is happening, you know, with comedy right now where
- 28:03Speaker 2: you have a lot of comics who are cool and
- 28:06Speaker 2: you have a lot of people that seem like they
- 28:10Speaker 2: are on stage to make a point. And they feel
- 28:16Speaker 2: like they're a gay comic or they're a comic of
- 28:19Speaker 2: color or they're a comic or they're a trans comic.
- 28:22Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like the community of comics feels more
- 28:25Speaker 2: divided and splintered now than it's kind of ever been.
- 28:28Speaker 2: It feels like the identity of comic, to me, is
- 28:31Speaker 2: such a powerful, strong identity. It should unite all these
- 28:36Speaker 2: different groups of people under that umbrella. It doesn't seem
- 28:39Speaker 2: to anymore. It seems to be weirdly balkanized. Everybody's kind
- 28:43Speaker 2: of doing their own thing. It is.
- 28:45Speaker 3: It is divided. A lot of comics have gone... at
- 28:49Speaker 3: each other, which I am not used to. It was
- 28:52Speaker 3: very united for my entire career. And now people are
- 28:58Speaker 3: incredibly judgmental of each other. I personally have never judged
- 29:01Speaker 3: comics for what they do. So it's very odd for
- 29:04Speaker 3: me to see comics going at each other. I could
- 29:09Speaker 3: hate someone's act, be disgusted by it, hear what they
- 29:14Speaker 3: have to say and want to vomit and want them
- 29:16Speaker 3: to die.
- 29:17Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 29:18Speaker 3: But I still believe they have the right to say it. So, yeah,
- 29:22Speaker 3: and I just, you know, I laugh at what's funny,
- 29:26Speaker 3: and I just think the funniest people should get hired
- 29:28Speaker 3: for work.
- 29:29Speaker 1: That's right.
- 29:30Speaker 3: So it's just, I don't know what's going on.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Well, good luck with that point of view. I know.
- 29:36Speaker 3: I just keep doing what I do and saying what
- 29:38Speaker 3: I say, and I don't let anyone say it. silence me.
- 29:41Speaker 1: In Long Island, do you ever encounter homophobia?
- 29:44Speaker 3: Oh, not in Long Island. I mean, I word things
- 29:49Speaker 3: and say things in a certain way so that I
- 29:52Speaker 3: make people feel absolutely ridiculous if they were to be
- 29:56Speaker 3: homophobic from my material. But when I'm on the road,
- 30:00Speaker 3: I definitely get some people that get tense.
- 30:05Speaker 5: Right.
- 30:06Speaker 3: And it's more of like the religious people.
- 30:08Speaker 2: I remember when I first started on Long Island, there
- 30:11Speaker 2: was a lot of weirdness when I would say something
- 30:14Speaker 2: about being gay, people would go, and that's not a
- 30:16Speaker 2: huge part of my act. I have one or two
- 30:17Speaker 2: jokes about it, but it was weird back then.
- 30:21Speaker 1: People would be like, what?
- 30:23Speaker 2: Like, it was a different time, but things have gotten
- 30:26Speaker 2: a lot, things have changed a lot. A lot of
- 30:29Speaker 2: people don't want to admit that or they don't believe that,
- 30:32Speaker 2: but First-hand experience, I think people's attitudes have changed.
- 30:35Speaker 3: They've changed a lot. And I got to tell you,
- 30:37Speaker 3: they're a little more homophobic with men. Sure. When it
- 30:41Speaker 3: comes to comedy.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 30:42Speaker 3: Definitely.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 30:44Speaker 3: I think with women.
- 30:44Speaker 2: There's never been a big gay male comic stand-up, right?
- 30:49Speaker 3: No, not at all. I mean, no. I'm thinking about it.
- 30:53Speaker 1: It was out of the closet. There's never been a
- 30:55Speaker 1: big gay male stand-up comic.
- 30:57Speaker 3: No, I'd say you're by far the biggest there's ever been.
- 31:00Speaker 3: By far.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Well.
- 31:02Speaker 3: I mean, and you don't talk about it a lot,
- 31:04Speaker 3: but I mean, you're out, and you're the most famous
- 31:07Speaker 3: there's ever been.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Well, that's crazy to think about. I don't know if
- 31:10Speaker 1: that's the case.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Yes, it is. I mean, there's Mario Cantone, but he's not,
- 31:15Speaker 3: I mean, it's not at your level as a stand-up,
- 31:16Speaker 3: I'm just saying as an actor, but he's musical, and
- 31:19Speaker 3: it's different.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Right.
- 31:21Speaker 3: There's, I don't know who else, and he's not, it's
- 31:23Speaker 3: not the same thing. I'm just saying he's.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Because there's no, because there's an Ellen. There's Ellen.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Right. Ellen's a male comic who's... I mean, Ellen's more
- 31:37Speaker 3: of a gay male comic than you are.
- 31:39Speaker 1: That's true. But as lesbians, they've had big comics.
- 31:42Speaker 3: Huge.
- 31:43Speaker 1: They've had huge lesbian comics.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Oh my God. Sarah, Sandra, there's tons of them. Tons.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Right.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Um, But no, there isn't. I'd say you're the, you are.
- 31:54Speaker 1: That's wild. Yeah. I don't know.
- 31:55Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.
- 31:56Speaker 1: I've never thought about it, but yeah, I've never, I haven't.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Either, but that's a real statement.
- 31:59Speaker 2: I've always just never knew that, but I never, I
- 32:03Speaker 2: also never like people and it's weird. Like I understand
- 32:08Speaker 2: people's point when they say representation matters. They go, I
- 32:11Speaker 2: want to see myself, someone that looks like me doing something.
- 32:14Speaker 2: I totally get that. Maybe, I don't know, I never
- 32:19Speaker 2: saw that, but I never cared.
- 32:22Speaker 3: I don't care either. It's such a small.
- 32:24Speaker 2: I never cared. I never saw a big gay male comic,
- 32:27Speaker 2: but I never cared. It didn't make me think it
- 32:30Speaker 2: was off the table.
- 32:32Speaker 1: I know.
- 32:33Speaker 3: I don't think about that stuff. I just think about
- 32:36Speaker 3: who's funny.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Like, I don't... But it's also, aren't we, we're kind
- 32:39Speaker 1: of a different generation of gay people.
- 32:41Speaker 3: Yeah, we are.
- 32:42Speaker 2: There's another generation of gay people who are, they don't,
- 32:45Speaker 2: they have sex with the members of the opposite sex.
- 32:48Speaker 5: Right.
- 32:49Speaker 2: So that's different. Gay has gotten very, it's a big
- 32:52Speaker 2: tent now. You don't have to be gay to be gay.
- 32:55Speaker 2: In fact, it's a detriment. You can be queer. There's
- 32:59Speaker 2: a big tent, and a lot of the people that
- 33:02Speaker 2: are in it are married in heterosexual relationships.
- 33:05Speaker 3: You were telling me that in the car, and I
- 33:07Speaker 3: am very confused by it.
- 33:08Speaker 1: You know, a guy on Twitter today came out as queer.
- 33:10Speaker 1: I mean, you can get.
- 33:11Speaker 3: I don't understand.
- 33:12Speaker 2: I'm not judging it.
- 33:13Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about, though.
- 33:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm judging it a little.
- 33:18Speaker 3: I don't understand what you were saying. You said he's
- 33:21Speaker 3: married to a woman.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes, I've started identifying as queer over the
- 33:25Speaker 2: last four months. Does that make me the new queer
- 33:26Speaker 2: but an old black? I think most men, especially black
- 33:29Speaker 2: men like me who come out later in life because
- 33:30Speaker 2: we don't really know it ourselves. Also, I'm attracted to
- 33:33Speaker 2: a wide range of women but not men at all.
- 33:35Speaker 2: So I didn't know how to ID myself even though
- 33:37Speaker 2: I haven't felt straight in years.
- 33:39Speaker 5: LOL.
- 33:39Speaker 1: So I don't know what that means.
- 33:42Speaker 3: I have no idea.
- 33:46Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not hating on it. I genuinely am confused.
- 33:50Speaker 3: To me, I literally feel like I just heard Chinese.
- 33:53Speaker 1: Right.
- 33:54Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea.
- 33:56Speaker 1: It might be a Chinese bot, but it's, you.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Know, I, that to me makes, again, I'd love to
- 34:04Speaker 3: understand it. I would love to.
- 34:07Speaker 2: But that's the success of the gay movement that straight
- 34:10Speaker 2: people now want to be in it.
- 34:12Speaker 3: And then the big LOL at the end is very
- 34:15Speaker 3: upsetting because it's, what is that?
- 34:18Speaker 2: That's a crazy person. But many people are ill. What
- 34:24Speaker 2: do you think the percentage of mental illness now in
- 34:26Speaker 2: the country is, 30%, 40%?
- 34:27Speaker 1: It's high. 98.5%.
- 34:28Speaker 3: Now, in certain ways, I'm mentally ill. We're all mentally ill.
- 34:35Speaker 3: But I work on it, and I'm medicated.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
- 34:39Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not judging. I have issues, but I
- 34:42Speaker 3: work on it. People are out of their minds. We
- 34:46Speaker 3: were at a comedy club. I told you, I was
- 34:48Speaker 3: at a comedy club last night. It looked like the
- 34:51Speaker 3: game room in a mental institution. And I'm not even
- 34:54Speaker 3: just talking about the comics. I'm talking about the audience, too.
- 34:56Speaker 3: The people that work there. I'm like, am I at
- 35:00Speaker 3: a mental institution? You said people were like rocking back
- 35:03Speaker 3: and forth. Someone was talking to themselves. Someone was flicking
- 35:05Speaker 3: their fingers. Someone was rocking. There was a person with
- 35:09Speaker 3: a helmet. I don't know what the fuck was going on.
- 35:11Speaker 3: Someone was defecating. It was the, I'm like, this country
- 35:15Speaker 3: is out of, everyone's crazy.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:18Speaker 3: And I really constantly feel like I'm on a sheet
- 35:22Speaker 3: of acid, not even one little, like I'm on a sheet.
- 35:25Speaker 1: You've taken a heroic dose. Yeah.
- 35:28Speaker 3: I've taken a, a, a cardboard like sheet of acid.
- 35:33Speaker 1: What do you think it is?
- 35:33Speaker 2: You think it's the internet's driven people crazy?
- 35:35Speaker 5: Yes.
- 35:36Speaker 3: Yes. My mom says that she's a huge therapist and
- 35:39Speaker 3: she said the internet has ruined people's lives. I mean, it's, it's, Ruined,
- 35:44Speaker 3: like she said, it's ruined people's lives. And it's only
- 35:49Speaker 3: getting more and more intense. I mean, it's insane.
- 35:52Speaker 1: Like and subscribe.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Do you ever go through TikTok and just go through it?
- 35:58Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 35:59Speaker 3: It's out of control.
- 36:01Speaker 1: It's out of control.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Like you'll just see someone like, Hi everyone. I'm Dorothy
- 36:06Speaker 3: and I really, and then you just flick through and
- 36:08Speaker 3: it's like, and it's just one person after the next,
- 36:13Speaker 3: like mentally ill, fucking crazy people. It's nuts.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:18Speaker 3: It's crazy.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of neurodivergence now.
- 36:27Speaker 1: It's true.
- 36:27Speaker 2: I mean, there's a, there's a lot of people that are,
- 36:31Speaker 2: that are on the spectrum and they are, struggling with
- 36:35Speaker 2: different things, and there's more and more of that, and
- 36:38Speaker 2: now that's becoming kind of a brand in a weird way.
- 36:41Speaker 3: There's someone who literally is mentally retarded, or whatever you
- 36:47Speaker 3: want to call it, and they're 700.
- 36:48Speaker 2: Pounds, okay?
- 36:50Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 36:54Speaker 3: In like a tight t-shirt and boxers with one sock on. Like, hey, baby.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Like just singing. And then it has 786,000 shares. Like
- 37:06Speaker 3: it's just being made fun of everywhere.
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- 39:30Speaker 2: pro fat movement now? It's very interesting.
- 39:32Speaker 1: The fat activism.
- 39:35Speaker 3: I mean, I, yeah, I've been as people.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Who've struggled with our weight. It's interesting to see now.
- 39:42Speaker 2: It's gone the other way where fat people are threatening people.
- 39:45Speaker 1: On social media.
- 39:46Speaker 3: I've been 330 pounds and no one should have been
- 39:49Speaker 3: promoting me. I was disgusting and should have been shot.
- 40:03Speaker 3: I should have been hunted down and shot. I was
- 40:07Speaker 3: an animal. I should have gotten help. Someone should have
- 40:15Speaker 3: gotten a net and fucking put me in a cage
- 40:19Speaker 3: and helped me.
- 40:26Speaker 1: But there's a movement now.
- 40:27Speaker 3: Well, I needed movement. I needed a lot of movement
- 40:30Speaker 3: because I was dying.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:33Speaker 3: Okay?
- 40:33Speaker 1: There's a movement to celebrate.
- 40:36Speaker 3: I should have not been celebrating.
- 40:38Speaker 2: I know.
- 40:38Speaker 1: I had.
- 40:40Speaker 3: Rashes, I smell, I was not okay.
- 40:45Speaker 1: But what has happened? You know what I mean? What
- 40:50Speaker 1: has happened where it's.
- 40:54Speaker 2: Gone to a place where there is a celebration of
- 41:01Speaker 2: that type of behavior?
- 41:02Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:04Speaker 3: Well, I think that... No, I.
- 41:06Speaker 2: Don't think fat people should be victimized or treated like shit.
- 41:11Speaker 3: No.
- 41:11Speaker 1: But no one thinks that.
- 41:13Speaker 3: Of course not.
- 41:14Speaker 2: But we've gone to such an extreme place. I have
- 41:19Speaker 2: a lot of fat professionals. My agent is fat and
- 41:23Speaker 2: they're very distracted.
- 41:24Speaker 1: They're fat. My tour is booked.
- 41:29Speaker 2: If you look at the way my tour is booked,
- 41:30Speaker 2: it's booked in towns with steakhouses so that my agent
- 41:33Speaker 2: can come.
- 41:34Speaker 1: I have a fat assistant. She's lovely.
- 41:36Speaker 2: But she's distracted because they're always thinking about eating.
- 41:39Speaker 3: I'm surprised your tour isn't all at, like, Burger Kings.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
- 41:43Speaker 2: My tour is literally routed around the openings of steakhouses. But,
- 41:50Speaker 2: you know, it is a distracting thing. Like, I'm trying
- 41:54Speaker 2: to lose weight.
- 41:54Speaker 1: It's hard.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Do they always have food in their mouths when you're
- 41:58Speaker 3: talking to them about business stuff?
- 41:58Speaker 1: They're chewing, they're crunching late at night. Are they like,
- 42:01Speaker 1: mushroom crumb?
- 42:02Speaker 2: Well, they crunch. They crunch things. They have little vittles
- 42:07Speaker 2: that they have. They've got food everywhere. Like, you know,
- 42:11Speaker 2: it's distracting. It's like, again, it's a compulsion.
- 42:15Speaker 5: I know.
- 42:15Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me. I'm an animal. I
- 42:17Speaker 3: fuck my face with food. I don't even chew.
- 42:20Speaker 1: You know what it is.
- 42:21Speaker 3: I know.
- 42:21Speaker 2: So to me, the idea that that's become a celebrated.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Part of our society.
- 42:26Speaker 3: It's not okay.
- 42:26Speaker 2: It's not okay. The mukbangs online, you've seen them. People
- 42:31Speaker 2: just eat. People watch other people. I mean, did you
- 42:34Speaker 2: see Nick Avocado's video where the.
- 42:36Speaker 1: Woman was getting stabbed?
- 42:37Speaker 6: Yeah, I sent that to her.
- 42:38Speaker 1: Please bring that up.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Someone's getting stabbed.
- 42:40Speaker 2: There's a woman in an apartment building getting stabbed inside.
- 42:44Speaker 2: And I don't know if you even know who this
- 42:46Speaker 2: guy is. This guy, all he does is eat online
- 42:51Speaker 2: and he eats these crazy things and he's just kind
- 42:55Speaker 2: of killing himself online.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Every day. He's pretty popular, yeah.
- 43:00Speaker 2: And he's very popular. People want to watch him kill
- 43:02Speaker 2: himself with food. This is a deeply disturbed society. Now,
- 43:07Speaker 2: I want you to listen to this because this is
- 43:08Speaker 2: literally true. Someone's getting stabbed to death in the apartment
- 43:12Speaker 2: next door, and they notice it, and they keep eating.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Watch this.
- 43:15Speaker 3: Okay, they taste like this, but, you know.
- 43:21Speaker 1: You hear the screams?
- 43:22Speaker 2: Greasier. Hmm.
- 43:29Speaker 1: Play it again, and I want you to listen for
- 43:30Speaker 1: the screams. You can hear them. You can literally hear
- 43:32Speaker 1: the screams. Okay, they taste like this, but, you know.
- 43:40Speaker 1: I mean, you hear somebody in the back going, ah!
- 43:43Speaker 3: Do you know that he just made me homophobic and
- 43:46Speaker 3: I'm married to a woman?
- 43:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 43:48Speaker 3: Like, I want to suck dick after watching that.
- 43:50Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 43:52Speaker 2: It's so disturbing because there's people... millions of them watching
- 43:57Speaker 2: this type of stuff. There's something that the internet's unlocked,
- 44:02Speaker 2: which is really terribly.
- 44:04Speaker 3: Oh my God, that's so disturbing, watching him eat like that.
- 44:07Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really bad. It's, yeah, it's not good.
- 44:12Speaker 3: So he's really popular?
- 44:14Speaker 1: He's very popular.
- 44:15Speaker 6: I've watched a lot of his stuff.
- 44:17Speaker 3: He just eats for hours. He goes crazy.
- 44:19Speaker 1: Now, why do you watch it, you sick fuck?
- 44:21Speaker 6: I don't really know why. When you're really hungry and
- 44:24Speaker 6: you want fast food late at night, if you just
- 44:25Speaker 6: watch him eat a bunch of tacos from Jack in
- 44:28Speaker 6: the Box or something... soothing about it. There's something, and
- 44:31Speaker 6: it's also kind of funny and morbid.
- 44:33Speaker 3: And really booristic. Is he just talking while he's eating?
- 44:35Speaker 6: Yeah, he has little anecdotes and he has his boyfriend Orlin,
- 44:39Speaker 6: I think, Olin or Orlin.
- 44:41Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 44:42Speaker 6: And they do cooking recipes too, so they'll cook ramen
- 44:44Speaker 6: noodles with cheese and eat those and show you recipes
- 44:47Speaker 6: and He'll go around Target in a rascal scooter and
- 44:50Speaker 6: do little skits and stuff.
- 44:52Speaker 1: So this is where we are. This is a big.
- 44:54Speaker 3: And they're famous.
- 44:55Speaker 1: They're famous. Yeah, yeah.
- 44:56Speaker 3: And I'm going to do six shows at the fucking
- 45:00Speaker 3: Chuckle Bunnies. Yeah.
- 45:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 45:03Speaker 2: Well, you know, but this is really disturbing stuff. And
- 45:06Speaker 2: your mother is a therapist probably is. She probably has
- 45:09Speaker 2: just a very interesting, you know, thoughts and ideas about
- 45:14Speaker 2: how it got this bad.
- 45:18Speaker 3: I mean, I think that we are, like, I think
- 45:20Speaker 3: people just want to watch this and just get hooked in.
- 45:24Speaker 3: I mean, it's like watching the war, you know, the
- 45:26Speaker 3: news and all that shit. We get hooked in, and
- 45:29Speaker 3: it's that addictive personality.
- 45:31Speaker 1: That's right.
- 45:32Speaker 3: We just get hooked in, and we can't stop watching.
- 45:34Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
- 45:39Speaker 3: It is crazy.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate that there are people whom are.
- 45:48Speaker 2: They're being enabled and supported to do these really horrible things.
- 45:53Speaker 3: And it's just going to get, how is this getting better?
- 45:56Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. You know, I mean, no, no, no.
- 46:00Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. No, it seems not to be.
- 46:03Speaker 3: I mean, my kids, this is very disturbing.
- 46:07Speaker 2: It's very hard to raise kids in this world, right?
- 46:09Speaker 2: With social media and the bullying and the stuff like that.
- 46:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:13Speaker 1: Yeah. It's difficult.
- 46:15Speaker 3: I mean, you can be on top of it and
- 46:18Speaker 3: kind of make sure they don't watch certain things, but
- 46:21Speaker 3: it's not easy.
- 46:22Speaker 2: It's hard to keep them from everything out there.
- 46:28Speaker 3: Very. Very hard.
- 46:30Speaker 1: They're going to stumble upon things.
- 46:33Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they do post stuff, and they're in
- 46:36Speaker 3: secret chats, and they, you know, for sure.
- 46:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:39Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's crazy. It's really wild now, the challenges
- 46:43Speaker 1: being apparent.
- 46:45Speaker 3: And they watch the porn and all that shit.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:49Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 46:49Speaker 3: I mean, second base when I was growing up was
- 46:51Speaker 3: like touching a girl's boobs. Now it's anal.
- 46:54Speaker 2: Right.
- 46:55Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 46:58Speaker 3: It is.
- 46:59Speaker 1: It's sped up to an unhealthy degree.
- 47:02Speaker 3: It did.
- 47:02Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's bad out there.
- 47:07Speaker 5: But, I mean.
- 47:10Speaker 3: What is the good, I mean, really, I don't know.
- 47:12Speaker 3: I felt like you were about to say, like, I
- 47:14Speaker 3: don't even know.
- 47:15Speaker 1: I was trying to find.
- 47:16Speaker 3: What is it?
- 47:17Speaker 1: Uber? I don't know. Postmates?
- 47:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
- 47:22Speaker 1: I mean, that's good. You can press a button and
- 47:24Speaker 1: get a burrito.
- 47:25Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 47:26Speaker 2: But then there's the dark web pedophile and everything else. Yeah.
- 47:32Speaker 1: That's a problem. Yeah. It's a real problem. It's hard
- 47:35Speaker 1: to be funny.
- 47:36Speaker 2: Stan was on stage the other night at the store
- 47:38Speaker 2: and he said something brilliant that Roseanne had said to him.
- 47:42Speaker 2: It's very hard to be funny now when there's no
- 47:43Speaker 2: such thing as truth. You're living in an era where
- 47:48Speaker 2: truth is really subjective. People don't seem to be swayed
- 47:55Speaker 2: anymore by any type of facts.
- 47:58Speaker 1: They can create their own reality.
- 48:00Speaker 2: And especially with the internet, you can only see that
- 48:03Speaker 2: deepening and becoming more immersive, where everybody disappears into their
- 48:09Speaker 2: own world. I mean, this metaverse thing, people can make
- 48:11Speaker 2: fun of it, and they should, and I do, but
- 48:15Speaker 2: it's coming.
- 48:16Speaker 1: It's like everything else. Do you know about the metaverse?
- 48:19Speaker 3: No, I don't know a lot about it.
- 48:20Speaker 1: Get up, Zuckerberg, the metaverse.
- 48:22Speaker 2: Now, everything they've done with it has been pathetic and
- 48:24Speaker 2: everybody's laughed about it so far because like anything else,
- 48:27Speaker 2: it's never going to be a thing.
- 48:29Speaker 1: As Ray Kump, our friend said, it won't be a
- 48:31Speaker 1: thing until it's a thing.
- 48:32Speaker 3: Right.
- 48:32Speaker 2: It's like anything else, but it really is this world
- 48:35Speaker 2: where you'll have an avatar. You'll literally pretend to be
- 48:40Speaker 2: somebody and you'll primarily be in this digital landscape. Where
- 48:46Speaker 2: you are, you know, having a lot of your meaningful
- 48:49Speaker 2: relationships and interactions.
- 48:51Speaker 1: Online, not in real life.
- 48:53Speaker 3: That makes sense.
- 48:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 48:55Speaker 1: No, it's coming here. Just take a quick look at it.
- 49:00Speaker 4: Imagine you put on your glasses or headset and you're
- 49:04Speaker 4: instantly in your home space. It has parts of your
- 49:06Speaker 4: physical home recreated virtually. It has things that are only
- 49:10Speaker 4: possible virtually. And it has an incredibly inspiring view of
- 49:14Speaker 4: whatever you find most beautiful.
- 49:16Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's the devil. Hey, are you coming?
- 49:19Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 49:19Speaker 4: Just got to find something to wear.
- 49:20Speaker 3: He's disgusting.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Horrible.
- 49:25Speaker 1: All right, perfect.
- 49:32Speaker 4: Oh, hey, Mark.
- 49:33Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on?
- 49:34Speaker 3: Hi, Mark.
- 49:35Speaker 5: What's up, Mark?
- 49:36Speaker 4: Whoa, we're floating in space? Who made this place?
- 49:38Speaker 1: It's awesome.
- 49:39Speaker 6: Right?
- 49:40Speaker 3: It's from a crater.
- 49:41Speaker 2: I met in L.A. This place is amazing.
- 49:45Speaker 4: Boz, is that you?
- 49:46Speaker 1: Of course it's me.
- 49:47Speaker 2: You know I had to be the robot, man.
- 49:49Speaker 4: I thought I was supposed to be the robot. Whoa.
- 49:54Speaker 2: I knew you were bluffing.
- 49:58Speaker 1: Hey, wait.
- 49:58Speaker 2: So this is what they want. Jessica, this is what
- 50:02Speaker 2: they want the future to be. I'm looking at your face,
- 50:09Speaker 2: but this is the plans for the future.
- 50:15Speaker 3: When is this happening?
- 50:16Speaker 1: They're trying to make it happen at ASAP.
- 50:20Speaker 3: But why? So they can make a lot of money?
- 50:21Speaker 2: Yeah, so that they can basically, you know, they're trying
- 50:27Speaker 2: to curate your life. They're basically trying through algorithms and
- 50:32Speaker 2: everything to feed you a diet of what they want
- 50:35Speaker 2: to feed you. You buy things in this world.
- 50:38Speaker 1: Right. You consume in this world.
- 50:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 50:41Speaker 1: Whether they're NFTs, you use crypto, whatever it is.
- 50:44Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And there's no touch. This is all I
- 50:46Speaker 3: keep thinking. There's no contact.
- 50:48Speaker 1: There's no contact. There's no touch. There's no humanity.
- 50:52Speaker 2: And you get into this world and you purchase things
- 50:54Speaker 2: in this world and you buy real estate in this world.
- 50:56Speaker 1: You buy a home in the metaverse. You buy a
- 50:59Speaker 1: home and people are doing it already.
- 51:02Speaker 2: And then you don't leave. And then they just sell
- 51:05Speaker 2: you things while you're there. And there you go. This
- 51:09Speaker 2: is the new thing where, you know, this is... The
- 51:12Speaker 2: demo they just ran about, here's the shopping now.
- 51:15Speaker 6: This is Walmart.
- 51:16Speaker 1: This is Walmart. Now you're good.
- 51:17Speaker 2: Here, you shop at Walmart. There goes the tomato sauce
- 51:20Speaker 2: in the thing. And then it's delivered to your house,
- 51:22Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, via drone or whatever.
- 51:24Speaker 3: But why would you want tomato sauce at your fake house?
- 51:27Speaker 2: Well, some of this, well, if you have guests, you
- 51:31Speaker 2: want to make, do you want to make, you're not
- 51:34Speaker 2: going to have pasta or something? No, you don't realize
- 51:37Speaker 2: how insane we are. Why would you want a fake house?
- 51:43Speaker 1: I mean, let's start there. So let's start there.
- 51:46Speaker 2: Now, I think this might be, they're demoing this as
- 51:49Speaker 2: like you would order it and it would be shipped
- 51:50Speaker 2: to your real house and you would eat the tomato sauce.
- 51:52Speaker 5: Right, right.
- 51:53Speaker 3: I get what you mean.
- 51:53Speaker 1: But don't kid yourself. Fake tomato sauce for that.
- 51:56Speaker 2: I mean, Heineken just did a thing, you could pull
- 51:58Speaker 2: this up, where Heineken sponsored some big metaverse thing. It
- 52:02Speaker 2: was a big bomb because everybody's like, hey, man, what
- 52:04Speaker 2: the fuck is this? But this is coming, they're trying
- 52:06Speaker 2: to shove it down your throat and really, make it
- 52:09Speaker 2: so heineken launched some virtual metaverse saying it was a
- 52:12Speaker 2: complete failure uh says needless to say we all love
- 52:16Speaker 2: a frosty cold one every now and then but now
- 52:19Speaker 2: heineken is setting its sights on bringing that element into
- 52:22Speaker 2: the metaverse brewed with i'm not kidding none of this
- 52:25Speaker 2: is a joke brewed with pixels and not yeast heineken
- 52:30Speaker 2: silver is the world's first virtual beer So this is
- 52:39Speaker 2: all coming. And this is, you have the same reaction
- 52:41Speaker 2: that Rogan had when I told him about this. Your
- 52:44Speaker 2: kids know more about this than you do probably or will.
- 52:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:48Speaker 1: This is all coming.
- 52:48Speaker 2: And I'm a little bit of a conspiracy guy where
- 52:51Speaker 2: I go, they just really, I mean, you'll have an avatar.
- 52:55Speaker 2: So if you're 400 pounds, it's okay. Cause your avatar
- 52:57Speaker 2: looks like whatever you want to in the metaverse. And
- 53:03Speaker 2: it's a little sick that, But there's an inevitability to it,
- 53:07Speaker 2: and they want you on this thing so that you
- 53:11Speaker 2: can be.
- 53:11Speaker 3: To sell you stuff.
- 53:12Speaker 2: To sell you stuff.
- 53:13Speaker 3: I mean, it makes complete sense.
- 53:14Speaker 2: It makes complete sense, even though it's the craziest thing ever.
- 53:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know.
- 53:22Speaker 3: And I can see it. Like, I can see it happening.
- 53:25Speaker 3: I can see it being incredibly profitable for companies.
- 53:29Speaker 1: And I could see the fun of it.
- 53:31Speaker 3: Me too.
- 53:31Speaker 2: I could see the fun of it too. I go, oh,
- 53:33Speaker 2: I can't afford a mansion, but you know what? Maybe
- 53:35Speaker 2: I can in the metaverse.
- 53:36Speaker 3: Right. You could live this whole play life.
- 53:40Speaker 1: Whole play life. Yes. Forever and ever.
- 53:42Speaker 5: Right.
- 53:43Speaker 2: Does it matter that there's a fentanyl opioid epidemic and
- 53:49Speaker 2: that there's violence in the streets and that the environment
- 53:52Speaker 2: is decaying and the planet is decaying and there's political
- 53:57Speaker 2: corruption and there's no health care and you can live
- 53:59Speaker 2: a play life? So I think this is what they're preparing.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Instead of fixing the problems, they're going, how about we
- 54:06Speaker 2: all just go to the pool party in the metaverse?
- 54:09Speaker 2: That's what's coming because the problems are deep and very
- 54:13Speaker 2: tough to imagine solutions to, as we've just said. So
- 54:16Speaker 2: what we think, you know, what I tend to believe
- 54:19Speaker 2: they're going to say is just go to the metaverse.
- 54:22Speaker 1: There's already been sexual assault in the metaverse.
- 54:25Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 54:26Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 54:28Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. There's already been all kinds of things, sexual
- 54:33Speaker 2: assault in the metaverse. Sexual harassment, this is USA Today. Again,
- 54:40Speaker 2: USA Today. Sexual harassment in the metaverse, women alleges rape
- 54:45Speaker 2: in virtual world.
- 54:48Speaker 3: So the world's ending. So I just want to say that.
- 54:52Speaker 1: But it is.
- 54:53Speaker 3: We talked about that in the car.
- 54:54Speaker 2: The physical world is ending.
- 54:55Speaker 3: Yeah, so the world's ending. We talked about that in
- 54:57Speaker 3: your car.
- 54:58Speaker 2: Eddie Pepitone has a great line. He goes, you know,
- 55:00Speaker 2: every generation thinks it's ending, but we're right.
- 55:03Speaker 3: No, we are right. You said 50 years. I think less.
- 55:06Speaker 3: So I'm going to try to enjoy myself as much
- 55:08Speaker 3: as I can.
- 55:08Speaker 1: You have to.
- 55:09Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 55:10Speaker 1: You have to enjoy yourself.
- 55:11Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 55:12Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
- 55:15Speaker 2: Within 60 seconds of joining, Schroed, I was verbally and
- 55:17Speaker 2: sexually harassed three to four male avatars with male voices, essentially,
- 55:22Speaker 2: but virtually gang raped my avatar.
- 55:24Speaker 1: I mean....
- 55:30Speaker 3: Well, her clothes were too tight.
- 55:31Speaker 1: Yeah, she was out late at night.
- 55:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it was her fault. She was being too promiscuous.
- 55:37Speaker 2: So this is where we are. That seems to be
- 55:40Speaker 2: where we're heading. It's clownish right now, and it's not
- 55:45Speaker 2: real yet, but it seems to be potentially real.
- 55:49Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be huge. There's no doubt
- 55:53Speaker 3: in my mind.
- 55:54Speaker 1: I think so, too.
- 55:54Speaker 3: This is coming immediately.
- 55:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, too.
- 55:57Speaker 3: I don't even... Doubt that for a second. This is
- 56:00Speaker 3: coming out in the next year.
- 56:02Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming.
- 56:05Speaker 2: And I think they're going to encourage people to just
- 56:07Speaker 2: live those fantasy lives.
- 56:12Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be huge.
- 56:14Speaker 2: That's right.
- 56:15Speaker 3: And you're going to have to pay for everything.
- 56:18Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 56:19Speaker 1: That's right.
- 56:19Speaker 2: NFTs, these non-fungible tokens, you can own digital property. And
- 56:24Speaker 2: I don't even mean like a house. I mean like anything.
- 56:27Speaker 2: You could buy an NFT of a piece of art
- 56:30Speaker 2: or whatever, and eventually it'll be comedy.
- 56:31Speaker 1: You could buy a joke. Eventually comedians will sell a joke.
- 56:35Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's going to be, it's all heading
- 56:38Speaker 2: to that place, and it seems to be rapidly going there.
- 56:45Speaker 2: We were, you know, one of the last generations. This all,
- 56:49Speaker 2: I guess, eventually has to do with like, you know,
- 56:52Speaker 2: Humans becoming AI. Eventually there's a chip in your head
- 56:55Speaker 2: that you get right into the metaverse. It's scary, but
- 56:59Speaker 2: it is, you know, I think it'll be, I hope
- 57:04Speaker 2: the lineups at the comedy clubs in the metaverse are diverse.
- 57:08Speaker 1: That's my biggest concern.
- 57:09Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my biggest concern too.
- 57:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 57:12Speaker 3: I have anything, even like my kids, is that the
- 57:14Speaker 3: comedy club lineups are diverse.
- 57:16Speaker 1: In the metaverse.
- 57:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 57:18Speaker 1: For sure.
- 57:18Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, there'll be virtual comedy. There already are.
- 57:21Speaker 2: There's already virtual comedy clubs, you know, during COVID.
- 57:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 57:26Speaker 2: So that's, that seems to be the next step of society.
- 57:31Speaker 2: Just further into the hall, further into the pit. I'm
- 57:35Speaker 2: sorry to show this to you. I feel like I'm
- 57:37Speaker 2: showing you something.
- 57:38Speaker 3: I'm actually fascinated by it. I don't get freaked. I
- 57:41Speaker 3: don't get freaked out by this stuff because I'm a,
- 57:44Speaker 3: I'm a very realistic person. So I don't get like,
- 57:47Speaker 3: Oh my God. Cause I know this is all coming.
- 57:49Speaker 1: It's coming.
- 57:50Speaker 3: Like it does.
- 57:50Speaker 2: I went to Art Basel in Miami and I spent
- 57:52Speaker 2: 48 hours there and I felt again, like I had
- 57:55Speaker 2: swallowed a sheet of acid, but everything that they talked
- 57:59Speaker 2: about was real. They go, listen, everything your kids are
- 58:02Speaker 2: going to want is, Like instead of a pair of
- 58:05Speaker 2: Prada sunglasses or Jimmy Choo shoes or a Porsche, everything
- 58:11Speaker 2: for clout that they're going to want to show off,
- 58:15Speaker 2: it's going to all be digital. They're going to want
- 58:17Speaker 2: to buy things for their digital world.
- 58:20Speaker 3: Yeah. It doesn't freak me out because nothing shocks me anymore.
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- 1:01:10Speaker 1: ever perform?
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: Because you've been in New York comedy for so long.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: you never performed for Trump or anything, right?
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: No.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: Cause they, they like hate comedy, like those types of people.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: But I always wonder like, cause you've been such a
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: New York staple for a very long time. You've probably
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: seen a lot of like politicians, kind of interesting people.
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I've never, um, I've never performed for like
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: very big politicians, lower, lower level, but not huge, huge,
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: huge politicians.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: No.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you?
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Ed Mangano, the Nassau County executive who was indicted for
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: taking bribes, him and his wife were getting free deli platters.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: No, I swear to God.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: Ed Mangano and his wife were. She was given a $ 300, 000
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: job as a food.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: Tester at a deli. So that's like Long Island corruption. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: No, I haven't. But yeah, I'm trying to think. I mean,
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: there's been like people in the audience, but no one major.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: And you hate L.A.
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I'm okay with it for short periods.
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: But if I were to ever live here, I'd have
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: to have a job. I'd have to be on a
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: show or something. I could never live here and just
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: try to make it. Right.
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. Where in the country do you perform
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: that's outside of the coast that you really like?
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Is there a place where you go, I really like
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: to be there?
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: Outside of the coast?
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: See, to me, I love.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: I love working people, so I spend most of my
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: time in Beverly Hills and the Hamptons. Because I like
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: working people. Yeah, I get it. But I like people
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: that work. So I like Beverly Hills, the Hamptons, Palm Beach.
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: But now outside of that, where are places in the country?
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: But I hate performing for rich people. I don't think
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: they should be allowed in comedy clubs.
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: No, they're the worst crowds there are. The worst crowds.
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: They're entitled and they don't have anything. They're horrific.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: They don't relate.
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: No, I love performing for working people.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it.
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: They need comedy. Exactly. They're dying to laugh. Yeah, they're dying. Right. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: they don't even have food. But, yeah.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: Well, they have food. That's the only thing we give them.
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm joking. I love, like, small town, you know,
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: places where they don't have a lot of entertainment. Like,
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: you know, they have that comedy club and they go
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: out and they're dying to laugh. Yeah. Yeah, totally. There's
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: a bunch of places around the country that I love
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: to perform in.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: Your live act is one, because there's people that comedies
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: tell are the biggest comedians in the world hate following you.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Because you are one of the biggest powerhouses on stage.
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: Ben's like, have you ever had a follower? I'm like,
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: thank God, no.
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: That's very sweet.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: I'm like, no, whenever we performed, Jessica was always headlining.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: We were performing in churches in Queens for crackheads. And
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: Jessica was the headliner. I was just doing 10 minutes,
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: very excited.
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: I'll never forget I saw you there and was blown away.
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: You're fucking amazing.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: Well, that's very sweet of you.
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: I thought you were great that night. Do you know
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: how long ago that was?
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: We're talking 10 years.
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: It was a long time ago. And I saw you
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: and I'm like, he is really funny. I mean, you
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: were really, really funny when I saw you.
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: Well, I just got into comedy hard and I destroyed
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: any chance of, you know, decent relationships and everything.
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: I let everything go by the wayside for comedy.
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: Yeah, you were great. I thought it right away. I
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: thought he's a great comic. And you've always, everyone has
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: always said, I'm talking from years back. Everyone thought you
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: were great right away.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: This is a script we wrote for Jessica. She's doing
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: very well.
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: We went over all of this in the car.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: You're reading yourself a teleprompter in the studio right now.
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: Yeah, people thought you were great. They really loved you
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: from right away. No, everyone has said that about you.
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: You have a very good reputation.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: I hope you do.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: Yeah, you do.
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: I mean, you're brilliant. I'm not just saying that to
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: be nice. You really, to be this, it's not just
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: with comedy. I mean, you have a brilliant mind and
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: that's why you're so successful.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: It's with fitness.
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: You're very smart.
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: Yeah. You're with a lot of things.
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: You're great with dumbbells.
- 1:05:20Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: No, I, I'm good with fitness. Yeah. And with fighting
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: with MMA.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: You really are.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: That's why me and Joe Rogan get along. We met
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: at the gym.
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: Oh, I know. Yes. He told me you trained him
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: for like seven months.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: I trained Joe Rogan, but then he wasn't serious about
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: his nutrition, so I had to drop him.
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: He eats a lot of sugar.
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: It's the never-ending pasta bowl at the Olive.
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: Garden with that guy.
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: I know.
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: He's a fucking pig.
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: That's right.
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: And he needs to stop.
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: Well, he's in a corset. Do you know this? This
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: is true.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Many people don't know this.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: He's 400 pounds.
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: He's in a corset, so when he leaves the studio,
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: he actually just really becomes.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Busts out. He becomes Lizzo. It's very... Lizzo has a
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: new show. Can we get up the trailer?
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: Which is funny that people think he's a racist because
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: he is Lizzo.
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: Right. It's wild.
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: But Lizzo has a new show now called Big Girls, which, again,
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: another thing my agent could not.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: Get me on.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: And it's called Watch Out for the Big Girls, which, again,
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: sounds like a negative, but this is being billed as.
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: A positive thing.
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: I didn't even know she had a new show.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: It's a new show, Watch Out for the Big Girls.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: What's up, y'all? It's Lizzo. I'm looking for dancers to
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: join me on my tour. Girls that look like me
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: don't get representation. Time to pull up my sleeves and
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: find them myself. I should go on this, because I
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: can dance.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: I want to be on the show.
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: It's the battle of the big girls.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: To be a background dancer for Lizzo would just mean everything.
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: It's showtime.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Now, here's my thing, and I'm not trying to be,
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: I'm not trying to even make a joke.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: What if one of these people has a heart attack?
- 1:07:07Speaker 3: You mean on the audition?
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: Like on the show.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: Like, what if one of the episodes someone has a heart, like,
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: would it give anyone pause?
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: Would they go, eh?
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: She'll probably get a lot more votes.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right. And then she comes back.
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: She'll get sympathy votes.
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: Yeah, she comes back in and they replace a valve.
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: I think.
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: It's a fair, I'm just a fair question.
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: I mean, I think that, you know, someone could have
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: a heart attack.
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: It's a very good possibility.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: It's a very strenuous show.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: Someone could do a split and shit everywhere because they
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: ate so much food.
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: I mean, it's... A lot.
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: Of things could happen.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: Someone could have, you know, a stroke. I mean, there's
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: so many different things that could happen.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: Yeah, so my whole thing is just, it's an interesting....
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: And this episode, it doesn't come out this week. It'll
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: come out next week. And this probably is already premiered.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that doesn't happen, but it is a possibility.
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: So many things could happen.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: It's a very real possibility.
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: On the show.
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: People could be vomiting. It's a physical... We have no idea,
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: but it could absolutely....
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: It could absolutely happen.
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: Stuffing down feelings. There's so many.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. Eating is a compulsion that's emotional.
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: I wonder if they eat while they're dancing, if they
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: could just put the food down.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: They eat while they're dancing. But you wouldn't get disqualified.
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: No, because you celebrate being fat. So they're all just
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: shoving cookies in their mouth.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: While they're twirling. It really is the end, isn't it?
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: It's gone. We're in it. We're not even starting.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: We're in the end.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: No, it's a severe... It's odd to me.
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: It's odd that we celebrate now everybody's. And I mean,
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: now we have drug addicts and we all have sympathy
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: for drug addicts.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: We have empathy. We know what it's like.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: But now we have people that we have open air
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: drug markets in cities where people shoot heroin on the street.
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be the new reality show.
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: That'll be the new one. Or that'll be the next thing.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: People will go like, I'm a proud heroin addict.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Right. I'm proud of that.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: We should celebrate opioid. Like, I'm not addicted to opioids.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: I choose to use them.
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: And it's my lifestyle. And if you have a problem
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: with that, you're an issue.
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: Right. I'm going to be an addict that chooses background
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: addicts to be around me. Yes.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: Yeah. That'll be the next show.
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: Take pills around me.
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be the next show.
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: I want a crew of people that love fentanyl as
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: much as I do.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: But it seems like that because we're just celebrating compulsions.
- 1:10:04Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: And addictions. Yeah.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: Because I see this all as through the mindset of
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: an addict. I go, this is all addictive behavior.
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: The food. I know I struggle with it myself.
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: I just pictured them going on tour and just all
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: these dancers just falling to the ground and dying.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: They're going to die.
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: They all just go cardiac arrest.
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to die. I mean, they're going to die.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: And it's sad, but it's like that, like.
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: It's.
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: It's sad, but we're making fun of it as people
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: who struggle. It's like I'm literally.
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: I struggle too, but I don't go. When I make
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: a bad food choice, I never want others to do it.
- 1:10:43Speaker 3: Me either.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: I'm never like, hey, this is the way to live.
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: No, I don't want people clapping and cheering me on.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: I want them to get me help. I want them
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: to help me.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: It would be very weird if I pulled into a
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: McDonald's late night and And there was people around me
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: cheering like I was finishing a marathon.
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: Yeah, like handing me nuggets. Like you hand someone a
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: towel or like water, like they're handing me ketchup packets. No,
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: I want you to like help me.
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to just be a problem. And I
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: don't know why it wouldn't eventually be drugs. Right.
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: Like that's the next thing.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: And we already kind of see it where they just don't, don't.
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: Persecute people that are doing heroin in a tent and
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: you go i'm not trying to persecute anyone but it's
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: not good for them it's not good for it's not
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: good for tent cities to be there um it's not
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: a positive thing.
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: Well we should really celebrate them because you know right
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: at least well yeah.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: Well that's what people do no people do and they
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: go you know we and it's like So to me,
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: I think that may be the next reality show. It's
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: just people in the tents.
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: I think it will be.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: We're maybe a year away from the first homeless celebrity.
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: Like a homeless star.
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: You know what? I could see it.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: Yes. For sure.
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: A homeless reality show.
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: Yes. Where they're like a star.
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: And they're, you know, and they're known.
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: I guarantee there's going to be one in L.A.
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: Oh, we'll be ground zero.
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: And it'll be people that are kind of like, hey,
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: I love this. Because there is a whole thing now
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: where they go, well, if we offer you a bed
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: and we offer you a home and you don't accept it,
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: we can't allow you to stay on the streets. And
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: then people go, no, you can't do that. You have
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: to let people camp on the street.
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: You have to let people... Not only that, but you
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: need to give them lighting. You need to give them
- 1:12:53Speaker 3: a kitchen.
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: Yes.
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: A den.
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: You have to let.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: A porch.
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: You have to... Yes.
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: You have to let them be on the street if
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: they so choose to stay on the street and use drugs.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: And they don't want to live in the thing.
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: So we're getting to a point now where why not
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: celebrate everything?
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: You know?
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: And it's a bit scary. I've made a lot of mistakes.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: I've never.
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: celebrate, like I've never been like, you know what's a
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: good idea? Stay in the closet till 25, do cocaine, drink,
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: quit that, and then eat a lot. I've never said
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: that's the way to do it. I've never said I'm
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: a bad bitch. That's why I did that. I said
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: I would do that because I was in a lot
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: of pain, it was very hard, and I didn't find
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: something I liked to do. And then I finally found
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: something I liked to do, and I transitioned out of
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: that behavior, most of that behavior.
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: But.
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: Yeah, because you want to try to help other people
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: and you want to explain to people that it's not
- 1:13:51Speaker 3: a great decision and you don't want it to be celebrated.
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: You want to like be an example and try to,
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: you know.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:13:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: Again, I don't feel like fat people should be made
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: fun of or ridiculed or anything.
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: No.
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: But I don't also feel like it should be celebrated
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: because it's not healthy, right?
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: It's not healthy.
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: That's why I'm trying. I do something about it.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: People disagree with you. They go, it actually is healthy.
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: No, it's not.
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: No, it's not. I, when I was that large, had
- 1:14:23Speaker 3: high blood, very high blood pressure. I felt very sick. I,
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: my cholesterol was high. I was not well. I was
- 1:14:31Speaker 3: very sick. I was not doing well physically. Now I'm like,
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: everything's good.
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: My back was out. My knee was killing me.
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying to be 500 pounds is a
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: detriment to your health. Because that is a controversial statement
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: in some corners of the internet.
- 1:14:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I can.
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: It's a lot.
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: There are people that go, you can be 300, 400,
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: 500 pounds and it doesn't have any negative health effects.
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: I know those people need help. This is what I'm
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: talking about. Those people really need to see help.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: And how do you help them? How do we help them?
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: You can't. You can't. They need to be put down.
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: When I say that, I mean that, and I'm joking,
- 1:15:15Speaker 3: but they cannot be helped.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: It does seem like a zombie movie.
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no, you can't convince people, there's a lot
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: of people now that are going to believe what they
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: want to believe, and they're stuck in that, and there's
- 1:15:28Speaker 3: no way of convincing, you know that.
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: You can't convince these people.
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: They just go to the metaverse.
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: They're done, that's it.
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: They just go to the metaverse.
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: People are stuck in their beliefs, and you cannot, to
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: try and convince them that that's, they're, no, no. It
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: is healthy to be 500 pounds. You're wrong. What am
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: I going to try to convince? It's a waste of energy.
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: They're done. They're gone.
- 1:15:50Speaker 5: Bye.
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: Great. Yep.
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: Blow up.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: You're healthy.
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: Do you think you'll stay in Long Island forever? No. Yeah.
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: But right now I'm on the road so much.
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: And that's where Danielle's family is. So it's like they
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: help the kids.
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: Because I know my eventual, and I don't know when
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: it is. It might be years and years down the line.
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: My eventual thing is probably the west coast of Florida.
- 1:16:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I will. I always grew up in Florida. I mean,
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: both grandmothers had a place in Florida.
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: Or the East Coast. I don't know. But Florida.
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: I think Florida. I love Florida.
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: I love it.
- 1:16:20Speaker 3: I mean, I'm there a lot.
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: I love Florida.
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: Because we have a place in Delray.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:16:23Speaker 3: So, my family. So, I'm there. I was just there
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: and I'm going back next week.
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: I just came from there the other day. Yeah, I
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: love Florida. But I think we're all going to end
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: up in a home with guns and, you know. just
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: like mining our business and protecting our home and our
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: family because this world is, I don't know what's happening.
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, what a positive note.
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: I know. I really, I know. I just wanted everyone
- 1:16:50Speaker 3: to feel safe and okay while we were ending this.
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you're going to, everyone's going to spend time
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: and at home with their guns and their family.
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: Well, look what's going on.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: But I don't mean now. Enjoy yourself now. Everyone blow up,
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: fuck your face, get as fat as you can and
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: celebrate it.
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: It's crazy. Where are, where can people find your live dates?
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: Cause I'm not kidding.
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: You have one of the best live acts I've ever
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: seen and it's well worth, it's well worth people to
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: go see you, um, and support you because I'm in,
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: in terms of live comedy, there's really nobody really doing
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: it better.
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: You go to Jessica Kirsten.com.
- 1:17:32Speaker 4: Yes.
- 1:17:32Speaker 3: Yep. Jessica Kirsten.com. K I R S O N. I
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: have a Tik TOK that you would love. Cause I
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: post crowd work videos every day. Um, and a lot of,
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: you know, a lot, a lot of people do crowd work.
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: A lot of women don't. So I purposely do it
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: a lot. So I have a Tik TOK, Jessica Kirsten,
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: and I'm an Instagram, Jesse Kirsten, but I'm on the road.
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: I'm on tour for months coming up and I'm doing
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: a lot of different cities.
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: How do you do it? Do you ever take a break?
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: Not now. I'm really on tour right now. I'm not
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: like you are, Jesus. It's insane what you're doing.
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: Well, I'm done in May.
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: Right, but you're a fucking warrior. It's amazing. But no,
- 1:18:08Speaker 3: I'm touring a lot coming up, and I have a
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: lot in the fall, so I'm happy. I'm doing a lot.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: It's good.
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the live shows are great. You go
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: to Jessica's website. She's got her podcast up there, Patreon.
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: You have everything up there, easyjessicakearson.com, jessikey. on Instagram and
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: really go out to see a live show because the,
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: you know, I don't recommend a lot of comics live. Um,
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: but you really are like the gold standard of a
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: New York comedian, like, you know, which is the highest
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: honor Boston, New York, like comedy is.
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: An East coast thing. That's just what it is. You
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: know what I mean? People can, get.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: Angry about that and not like that, but that's absolutely
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: the truth. But thank you so much for coming on.
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: We rarely have guests.
- 1:18:58Speaker 5: I know.
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: And you like just texted me and said, come on.
- 1:19:02Speaker 3: And you know, I can't tell you how much I
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: appreciate that. It's like, You know, you've done that and
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: Joe and, you know, Bill Burr, like people who've really
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: reached out to help me and I can't, it just
- 1:19:14Speaker 3: means a lot.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Jessica Kearson right there on Instagram.
- 1:19:17Speaker 3: Yeah, it means a lot because I respect you so
- 1:19:22Speaker 3: much and you've done something that is just incredible. And,
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: you know, that you texted me and said you should
- 1:19:30Speaker 3: be selling out stadiums.
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: You should and everybody believes that and you will be.
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: It's just people... figuring it out, you know, and just basically,
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: you know, coming around, you know? Yeah. And, and, uh, but,
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: but I, I mean, I watch you tonight at the
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: laugh factory. And again, it's like, I mean, Ben is
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: such a massive fan of you. And, uh, every time
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: you're in town, we go watch you, you know?
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: We go watch you. And then, you know, we're like,
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: thank God. I'm like, thank God.
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: I don't have to follow Jessica. I could just go yell.
- 1:20:03Speaker 5: In a room.
- 1:20:05Speaker 3: Well, you kill two.
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: I do good, thank God.
- 1:20:08Speaker 3: I mean, people don't want to follow you either. I mean,
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: we have strong acts. We fucking command a room, and that's,
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: you know, people don't want to follow you either.
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: The concern for me has always been when people see
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: me on stage, they go, I've always felt, I think
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: the struggle that I have is being too hot to
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: get laughs.
- 1:20:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: That is word on the street.
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: Where people see me and they go, he doesn't need it.
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They go, he doesn't need this.
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: The problem is when you're that attractive, people are looking
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: at you and want to fuck you.
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: My dermatologist called me today just to check up. So
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: that's where I'm at. I had a dermatologist call me
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: from Orange County to just check up on me.
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: He goes, I've seen your Instagram. You have something going
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: on on your face.
- 1:20:59Speaker 3: Oh my God, that's not good.
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: No, I swear to God, it's a dermatologist from Orange County.
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: He goes, something's going on on your face. We should
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: biopsy it. I go, well, that's nice. I said, I'm
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: on the road.
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: Can we do it later?
- 1:21:10Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, but I'll call in a prescription. So
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: we called in a prescription to Ralph's in the ghetto.
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: And I went and got a prescription and I put
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: it on my face tonight.
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: It's probably, yeah.
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: So, I mean, that's where I'm at.
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: In the ghetto.
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he calls prescriptions in. I think he wants
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: me to get killed.
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: You go to pick up.
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: He wants me to get killed because he's always trying
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: to save me money.
- 1:21:33Speaker 3: You go to get your skin medication, you get shot
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: in the head.
- 1:21:36Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's always trying to, like, save me money.
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: So he, like, calls in scripts to, like, these, like,
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: horrible places. And I go, okay. Follow Jessica. Go see
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: her live, everybody. We're on tour, too. Who gives a fuck?
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: We've got one month left, and it's over. Go away.
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: Thank you.