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'Drunk' TV Star CRASHES, Curses EMTs Over $$ Blouse · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease.
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Speaker 2: In the last hours, we learn the latest about a
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Speaker 2: star actress on the popular soap opera General Hospital. This woman,
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Speaker 2: Haley Pulos, was last spotted driving to a luxury nearly
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Speaker 2: three thousand dollars a night Malibu rehab after she plows
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Speaker 2: her vehicle wrong way on the interstate. Can you imagine
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Speaker 2: how fast they were going.
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Speaker 3: All the while?
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Speaker 2: We know the head on collision was preceded by another
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Speaker 2: hit and run where the actress allegedly rammed into another person,
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Speaker 2: took off, and then plows in to this victim on
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Speaker 2: the interstate.
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Speaker 3: The dui crash seemingly has.
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Speaker 2: No consequences because she is lounging right now at a
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Speaker 2: Malibu rehab that offers gourmet dining, hot tub yoga, horseback riding, fishing,
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Speaker 2: beach access, and off site activities during treatment.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I see, grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us here at Fox Nation and
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Speaker 2: Series XM one eleven. First of all, take to listen
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Speaker 2: to our friends at ABC and KTLA.
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Speaker 4: General Hospital star Haley Pulos has been arrested for an
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Speaker 4: alleged ui, accused of causing a major freeway rent the
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Speaker 4: incident happened on the one thirty four in Pasadena, where
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Speaker 4: the CHP says she entered the freeway into oncoming traffic.
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Speaker 4: She collided head on with another car, destroying both vehicles.
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Speaker 4: Pulos was hospitalized where she was then arrested for DUI.
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Speaker 4: The driver of the other car was also hospitalized with
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Speaker 4: major injuries.
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Speaker 5: Pelisa Pulos was also involved in a hit and run
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Speaker 5: crash before the freeway accident. According to Soap Opera Digest,
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Speaker 5: the show has temporarily recast her character. She was arrested
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Speaker 5: at the hospital and faces DUI charges.
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Speaker 3: But excuse me.
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Speaker 2: To Jim Smith, chief investigative reporter with Dailymail dot Com,
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Speaker 2: the Soap Opera Digest no offense. Their banner, their headline
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Speaker 2: is her part has been recast. What about the victims too,
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Speaker 2: victims I believe in one day, Jim, Yeah.
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Speaker 6: And look, I think I might be able to explain why.
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Speaker 6: That's what they headlined on Nancy. And it's because when
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Speaker 6: they reached out to Haley Tulos they heard about this crash.
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Speaker 6: She just said to them, I was involved in a
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Speaker 6: car accident. I'm okay, I just need some time to recover.
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Speaker 6: She failed to mention the fact that the reason she
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Speaker 6: was involved in a crash is because she was driving drunk,
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Speaker 6: possibly on the influence of drugs, and had hit not
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Speaker 6: one but two cars like you mentioned.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to read it for Baden because it's
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Speaker 2: just so it's so incredulous.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to believe.
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Speaker 2: She plows into not one but two victims, and correct
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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. I think she was going wrong way,
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Speaker 2: drunk or on drugs on the interstate and plows into
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Speaker 2: somebody just after another hit and run she hit, and
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Speaker 2: she ran and then has a head on collision. Quote
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Speaker 2: this this was soap opera digest. I hope you're sitting down.
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Speaker 2: Quote Unfortunately, I was involved in an automobile accident. What
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Speaker 2: She's either drunk or high on something according to prosecutors,
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Speaker 2: I mean a snoopful And this is I was involved
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Speaker 2: in an automobile accident. Somebody wrote this for her, and
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Speaker 2: I'm doing okay, but I'm going to need a little
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Speaker 2: time to recover in your Malibu rehabs, seriously doing yoga,
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Speaker 2: hot dug gourmet dining, horseback riding, fishing, beach access and
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Speaker 2: off site activities. What okay, wait, I will be back
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Speaker 2: as soon as possible. Exclamation. Okay, just let that sink
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Speaker 2: in joining me. In addition to Jen Smith, chief reporter
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Speaker 2: dailymail dot Com, the former president of Georgia Mad Mothers
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Speaker 2: Against Drunk Driving, founder director Cold Case Research Institute, and
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Speaker 2: star of a new hit podcast, Zone seven, Cheryl McCollum
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Speaker 2: the gall.
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Speaker 3: To say I'll be back as soon as possible.
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Speaker 7: What Nancy, she's busy. I mean, she's got to take
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Speaker 7: some time with all the horseback ride, fish and yoga
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Speaker 7: and going to the beach. I mean, she's just not
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Speaker 7: even gonna have time to detail.
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Speaker 2: The biggest banner is she's been recast. Jen Smith, I'm
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Speaker 2: just trying to figure out what exactly how, And first
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Speaker 2: I want to get to the wrong way on the
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Speaker 2: interstate because interstate to me means seventy five mph at best.
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Speaker 2: And how do you do a head on collision on
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Speaker 2: the interstate. Everybody's supposed to be going the same way.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, so much of us we still don't know.
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Speaker 6: But what we do know this happened there are one
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Speaker 6: point thirty in the morning. Now, what we know, according
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Speaker 6: to the police reports so far, is that she was
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Speaker 6: driving on this freeway, she swerved, she clears the dividing
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Speaker 6: barrier and crashes into a car traveling on the opposite
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Speaker 6: direction head on at what we know so far as
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Speaker 6: sixty miles per hour, definitely fast enough to cause some
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Speaker 6: serious damage and the driver of that car was taken
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Speaker 6: to the hospital with severe injury.
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Speaker 3: Right, did you say impact was at sixty mph?
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Speaker 6: That's this car where the victim's car was traveling at
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Speaker 6: least sixty miles per hour when she crashed into it,
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Speaker 6: driving in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 2: Joining me right now, Joseph Tremblay, Senior forensic engineer and
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Speaker 2: accident reconstructionist with Veritech Consulting Engineering, and you can find
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Speaker 2: him at vera techeng dot com, Vera tech Engineering dot com.
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Speaker 3: Joseph, thanks for being with us, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: What do all.
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Speaker 2: Of these numbers and the speeds and going across the
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Speaker 2: median which actually may have reduced her speed somewhat.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of this? What happened?
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Speaker 8: Well, the way I understand it, and I'm taking some
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Speaker 8: of this directly from Daily Mail, was that she was
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Speaker 8: initially traveling westbound on Highway one thirty four and was
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Speaker 8: involved in an accident that was less severe with an
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Speaker 8: Oldsmobile driver potentially causing her to redirect in a direction
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Speaker 8: that would cause her to launch over the median barrier
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Speaker 8: and then become traveling in the oncoming traffic lane on
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Speaker 8: the eastbound side, and then at that point she contacted
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Speaker 8: the Kia that was driven by the twenty three year
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Speaker 8: old male. One thing I did find interesting about these
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Speaker 8: photographs that were provided by the responding emergency personnel was
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Speaker 8: at the point of rest for both of these vehicles
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Speaker 8: was all the way over on the right side of
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Speaker 8: the road, which means that she probably was airborne and
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Speaker 8: traveling across the entire highway before she contacted this Kia.
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Speaker 8: The damage to both vehicles is severe. It appears that
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Speaker 8: it is a front end impact biased a little bit
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Speaker 8: towards the driver's side of both vehicles, but the damage
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Speaker 8: is significant all the way from the front bumper through
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Speaker 8: the occupant compartment. And one thing I did read on
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Speaker 8: one of these news articles is.
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Speaker 9: That she had to be extricated with the jaws.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly my thinking. In fact.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Joseph Tremblay, Senior forensic engineer and accident reconstructionist. I want
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Speaker 2: you to hear what we've learned about that from our
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Speaker 2: friends at KCAL.
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Speaker 10: She's a general hospital actor. She plays the son and
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Speaker 10: daughter of Sonny. If you've ever seen that show, that's
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Speaker 10: who she plays. And we'll show you some video here
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Speaker 10: of the crash and you can see just really how
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Speaker 10: serious this was. This was a situation on the one
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Speaker 10: thirty four in Pasadena where Haley Puyos was arrested where
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Speaker 10: she came on the wrong way of the one thirty
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Speaker 10: four hit a car, continued on and then got into
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Speaker 10: this head on crash. You can see here how mangled
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Speaker 10: up the cars are. Here's the actress herself. She ultimately
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Speaker 10: was arrested by the CHP after she had to be
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Speaker 10: extricated using the jaws of life by the Pasadena Police Department.
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Speaker 2: Joseph Trimblay, joining us from Veritech Engineering, explain why do
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Speaker 2: you have to use the jaws of life.
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Speaker 8: Well in severe accidents like this one. What ends up
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Speaker 8: happening from the impact crush that occurs to the vehicle
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Speaker 8: is that a lot of times the occupant compartment that
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Speaker 8: the area where the driver sits becomes so damaged that
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, the front end of the vehicle, the bumper,
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Speaker 8: and then both doors become so intermingled entangled together from
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Speaker 8: the impact that you can't get out the driver. If
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Speaker 8: they do survive a significant impact like this, a lot
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Speaker 8: of times they can't get out of the vehicle, and
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Speaker 8: that could be because they're injured or because the vehicle
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Speaker 8: itself is just so damaged that they can't get out.
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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this much from what I know,
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Speaker 2: Jen Smith joining us daily mail dot com. She's not
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Speaker 2: so injured that she's not at the Malibu rehab Let's
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Speaker 2: see Malibu Detox and Residential Treatment Center where she has
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Speaker 2: hot tub What all did I say? Hot tub orde dining.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'd like to have lunch there today.
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Speaker 3: That's really good.
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Speaker 2: Yoga, horseback fishing, beach access, off site activities.
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Speaker 11: She's not hurt. She's fine.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Greace.
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Speaker 2: You just heard Joseph Tremblay state that you have to
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Speaker 2: use jaws of life, which they look like giant metal
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Speaker 2: pinchers that actually cut through the metal to extricate someone
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Speaker 2: when the car is so damaged and disfigured.
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Speaker 3: So she's not hurt, Jen Smith.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the last photo I've seen in this woman,
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Speaker 2: her dad is driving her to this luxury treatment center
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Speaker 2: after a stop at Taco Bill. She has not lost
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Speaker 2: her appetite.
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Speaker 12: She definitely has not lost her appetite.
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Speaker 6: And no, you're quite right, she wasn't seriously injured. Obviously,
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Speaker 6: this was hugely fortunate for her that she was not
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Speaker 6: seriously injured. But we do know a little bit about
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Speaker 6: how she behaved when she was brought out of this vehicle. Now,
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Speaker 6: these emergency personnel, they clearly are risking their own safety
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Speaker 6: getting people out of these situations. And Nancy, when Hailey
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Speaker 6: Bulop was pulled out of her vehicle, she actually complained
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Speaker 6: to them that she was worried they were going to
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Speaker 6: tear her four hundred dollars shirt. She was cursing at
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Speaker 6: these men and women who were saving her, and she
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Speaker 6: was more worried about her clothes. She was then taken
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Speaker 6: to the hospital, we imagine as a precaution and to
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Speaker 6: be checked over, and that is where the investigating authorities
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Speaker 6: not that her speech was blurred, there was alcohol on
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Speaker 6: her breath, and they were able to make the determination
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Speaker 6: that she was over the limit. We're not quite sure
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Speaker 6: yet by how much. But after they searched what was
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Speaker 6: you know, still intact. In terms of her car, they
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Speaker 6: found a mini bossal of tequila and they found marijuana.
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Speaker 2: Edible tequila and pot. Wow, the car wasn't the only
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Speaker 2: thing airborne.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of her very bad behavior after not one but
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Speaker 2: two crashes, take a listen to Mike rogers Kekel.
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Speaker 10: There is a TMZ report that claims that after she
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Speaker 10: was extricated, she was not terribly nice to a firefighter,
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Speaker 10: claiming that, you know, her shirt is worth four hundred dollars,
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Speaker 10: don't cut it, despite the fact that she allegedly just
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Speaker 10: caused this pretty bad crash. So the CCHP is now
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Speaker 10: investigating this whole thing again. She's been arrested for duy
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Speaker 10: and driving wrong way on her freeway.
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Speaker 2: Also a criminal charge. Okay, let me get this straight.
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Speaker 2: You know what, let me go out to you. Robert
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Speaker 2: Crispin Crispin private investigator, former Federal Task Force officer for
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Speaker 2: the DOJ, Department of Justice with DEA and the Miami
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Speaker 2: Field Division. Former homicide investigator now at Crispin Special Investigations.
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Speaker 2: Find him at Crispin Investigations dot com. Robert Crispin, she
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Speaker 2: cussed out see emergency tics and warning they better not
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Speaker 2: hurt her four hundred dollars blouse.
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Speaker 13: Help me, Well, I've seen it a bunch of times, Nancy.
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Speaker 13: You know, before becoming a federal agent, you know, I
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Speaker 13: was a city cop and gosh, I've arrested so many
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Speaker 13: people for DUI. And the reason they're cutting her shorts
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Speaker 13: because they need to look at her to make sure
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Speaker 13: she doesn't have any bullet holes in her Was she
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Speaker 13: shopped before the christ They need to see if there's
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Speaker 13: any other injuries anywhere on her body. That's very typical
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Speaker 13: of a drunk driver to be argumentative. That's one of
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Speaker 13: the telltale signs. Argumentative, odor of alcohol, bloodshot, watery eyes, combative,
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Speaker 13: all that, that's all part of the bigger picture.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Doctor Sherry Schwartz joining US forensic
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Speaker 2: psychologist specializing and capital mitigation. You can find her at
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Speaker 2: panthermitigation dot com. She's the author of Criminal Behavior and
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Speaker 2: also the author of Where Law and Psychology Intersect Issues
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Speaker 2: in Legal Psychology. On Twitter at trial dot doctor Sherry Schwartz,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Okay, you'd think she
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Speaker 2: would have stopped after the first crash, that hit and run,
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Speaker 2: but no, the thought of stopping and checking on that victim.
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Speaker 3: That did not occur to her.
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Speaker 2: She continued on to have a head on collision with
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Speaker 2: another driver and then have the wherewithal not.
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Speaker 3: To ask about, Oh, my stars, is that guy hurt?
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Speaker 2: You damn well better not cut my four hun the
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Speaker 2: dollar blouse be I mean, that's what happened.
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Speaker 14: Yes, And I hope it's on body cam so that
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Speaker 14: everybody can see it in court because that'll be extra special.
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Speaker 3: Well is that your medical diagnosis? That will be extra special.
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Speaker 14: Because I really like that this is and I do mitigation,
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Speaker 14: as you know, Nancy, And these these are the kinds
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Speaker 14: of crimes that I won't touch because it's completely preventable.
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Speaker 14: And here is someone that has to be removed from
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Speaker 14: her own vehicle with the jaws of life. And I've
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Speaker 14: never seen this happen, but I imagine it takes some
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Speaker 14: time for that to happen. It'll just clamp that thing
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Speaker 14: down and out you come, right. I imagine it takes
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Speaker 14: some time. And during that time, why is she not thinking, oh,
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Speaker 14: oh my goodness, like, am I going to survive? Is
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Speaker 14: victim going to survive?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 14: Am I going to get into trouble?
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Speaker 12: No?
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Speaker 14: She's worried about her four hundred dollars blouse, and she
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Speaker 14: was so aggressive according to what I read, that she
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Speaker 14: had to be sedated at the hospital because she was
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Speaker 14: even aggressive with hospital staff. And what we know, what
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Speaker 14: the psychology research shows us about this type of behavior
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Speaker 14: is that the alcohol tends to amplify trait behavior. So
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Speaker 14: this is somebody who likely has issues with aggression.
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Speaker 2: Jared Farantina is joining US veteran homicide prosecutor. You can
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Speaker 2: find them on Facebook and Insta Jarrett Farantina. Jarrett really
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Speaker 2: tequila and edible's pot and she's worried about her four
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars blouse and becomes abusive, cursing out the EMT's
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Speaker 2: trying to get her out of her car with the
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Speaker 2: jaws of life.
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Speaker 9: Well, Nancy, it's Haley's world and we're all just living
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Speaker 9: in it. That's the attitude that I get here. She
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Speaker 9: has alcohol, marijuana, edibles. If it was truly a hit
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Speaker 9: and run too, I mean, she could have been and
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Speaker 9: the details of this haven't come out. She could have
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Speaker 9: been blacked out behind the wheels. So she got to
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Speaker 9: a point where she is so out of her mind
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Speaker 9: on whatever she's intoxicated on that she is not even
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Speaker 9: in touch with reality, has the hit and run Kareem's
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Speaker 9: into the oncoming lane and causes these very, very bad
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Speaker 9: injuries to this young man. So her conduct before is
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Speaker 9: a series of bad decisions. If she wasn't passed out,
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Speaker 9: it was a hit and run, she didn't render aid
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Speaker 9: to somebody, and she Kareems into that oncoming lane. It's
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Speaker 9: one intentional act and bad decision after another by Haley.
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Speaker 9: And then after the accident mistreats emergency personnel and was combative.
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Speaker 15: At the hospital.
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Speaker 12: Just a bad actress.
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Speaker 9: All the way around.
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Speaker 6: Nancy.
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Speaker 2: Can I tell one of those amts had to say
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Speaker 2: no good day goes unpunished?
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Speaker 3: Is that Cheryl McCollum jumping in?
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Speaker 13: Yes, Sam, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: But I just want to tell you before you say
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Speaker 3: one more word.
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Speaker 2: As your lawyer, let me advise you that pulos is
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Speaker 2: stay at the Malibu Rehab could cost nearly thirty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 7: Alcohol makes you more of who you are, So if
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Speaker 7: you drink and want to fight everybody in the bar,
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Speaker 7: that's who you are. If you get drunk and want
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Speaker 7: to sleep with a perfect stranger. That's who you are
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Speaker 7: at your core. Alcohol does not change you. Most people
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Speaker 7: drink so they can do these things. So like when
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Speaker 7: a woman says, oh, he's good to me until he
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Speaker 7: starts drinking and then he beats me. No, he drinks
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Speaker 7: so he can beat you. So there's a difference when
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Speaker 7: you look at somebody that has cost thousands of dollars
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Speaker 7: worth of damage in these vehicles, cost thousands of dollars
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Speaker 7: versus worth of you know, rescue equipment and that time,
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Speaker 7: and she's worried about a four hundred dollars shirt. And
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Speaker 7: everybody loves firefighters. They know how to diffuse the situation.
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Speaker 7: They call you by your first name, they try to
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Speaker 7: call you down.
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Speaker 13: They are literally.
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Speaker 7: Only there to help you, and you're going to try
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Speaker 7: to punch one of them. That's who you are.
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Speaker 2: You know what, Cheryl McCollum, I'm looking at a photograph
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Speaker 2: we obtained from the Pasadena Fire Department. I don't know
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Speaker 2: how these people even lived. You see the airbag is
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Speaker 2: deployed that this car. These cars are mangled. Now we
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Speaker 2: know Pulos of course survived, but the other driver has
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Speaker 2: sustained major injuries and joining me right, now a special
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Speaker 2: guest medical examiner from the State of Florida, Doctor Tim Gallagher, Lecturer,
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Speaker 2: University of Florida Medical School, Forensic Medicine, founder and host
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Speaker 2: of the International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference. Doctor Gallagher,
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Speaker 2: thank you for taking time out of your day at
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Speaker 2: the Medical Examiner's office to speak with us.
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Speaker 3: Why is it? Doctor Gallagher? And I know this is anecdotal.
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Speaker 2: But I don't have a statistical study, But why is
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Speaker 2: it the drunk person always walks off, They're fine, She's
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Speaker 2: at a three thousand dollars a day Malibu rehab, horseback
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Speaker 2: riding and sitting in the hot tub.
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Speaker 3: Everybody else ends up in traction at the hospital or dead.
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Speaker 12: There is information that supports that. And you know, typically
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Speaker 12: what alcohol does, it is a essential nervous system depressant,
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Speaker 12: meaning that it relaxes you and so it also increases
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Speaker 12: your reaction time, so it takes you longer to see
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Speaker 12: something and react to it than somebody who is sober.
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Speaker 12: So typically in these accidents, the person who is sober
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Speaker 12: will brace themselves right before the crash, so they'll grab
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Speaker 12: onto the steering wheel very hard. They'll strengthen their strengthen
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Speaker 12: they will straighten their arms, they will straighten their legs,
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Speaker 12: and that actually makes their bones a lot easier to break,
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Speaker 12: and they get injured a lot worse than somebody who
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Speaker 12: is just relaxed, does not fight the feeling and lets
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Speaker 12: the air bag come out and save them. So, you know,
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Speaker 12: the reason why I'm saying it's not exactly anecdotal is
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Speaker 12: because people who are restrained in the car and are
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Speaker 12: asleep in the car and are subject to the same
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Speaker 12: types of accidents have a much greater survival rate. So
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Speaker 12: the alcohol relaxes the body. You do not brace your
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Speaker 12: arms after the imp would you let go of the
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Speaker 12: steering wheel, and then the air bag will come out
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Speaker 12: and prevent you know, a lot of injuries that way.
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Speaker 12: And we also see this in race car drivers when
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Speaker 12: when the race car driver his car is out of
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Speaker 12: control and he knows he's going to hit the wall,
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Speaker 12: he will let go of the steering wheel, folds his
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Speaker 12: arms across his chest, and let the safety equipment that's
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Speaker 12: installed in the car do its work and there's a
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Speaker 12: lot less injuries, you know, to the driver because of
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Speaker 12: that reason. So it's the relaxation that the alcohol and
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Speaker 12: in this case, the marijuana brought her that actually contributed
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Speaker 12: to her not becoming as injured as she would have been.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's amazing what you just said, doctor Gallagher.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to take it all in, so that really
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Speaker 2: is true. It's not just what I've noticed in deui homicides.
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Speaker 3: That's real.
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Speaker 2: So the drunk person is more relaxed and somehow ends
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Speaker 2: up walking away or at least being a lot less
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Speaker 2: injured than all the other parties. Because I don't know,
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Speaker 2: if you've seen this picture of these mangled cars, what
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Speaker 2: looks like it's basically been cut in half.
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Speaker 3: They really look awful.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how any one survived this, hey, doctor Gallagher.
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Speaker 2: Another quick question, tequila mixed with pot ediples?
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Speaker 3: What effect would that have.
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Speaker 2: On the defendant, the actress Haley Pulos.
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Speaker 12: Well, you know, it depends on how much she had
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Speaker 12: with her. Now, so a six ounce how.
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Speaker 3: Much sequilla does it take? Gallagher?
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Speaker 12: Well, also depends on the person's weight, you know, but
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Speaker 12: I would say an actress is probably underweight if I
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Speaker 12: were just hazard to guess, so I would say that
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Speaker 12: five ounces of tequila would raise her blood alcohol level
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Speaker 12: to about where she needs to be intoxicated, and then
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Speaker 12: anything above that will just add to that. As far
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Speaker 12: as the intoxication brought upon by the well delta nine thc,
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Speaker 12: which is the marijuana and then the alcohol, those combined
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Speaker 12: effects are often greater than the effects individually. You know.
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Speaker 12: We say typically say, you know, a two plus two
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Speaker 12: equals four, but in intoxication alcohol and marijuana two plus
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Speaker 12: two often equals ten. So they would be more intoxicated
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Speaker 12: having the combination, you know, than having each one individually.
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Speaker 2: You know, it was really interesting doctor doctor Gallagher is
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Speaker 2: joining me the Medical Examiner for the state of Florida,
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Speaker 2: the big push to legalize marijuana, and whether you're for
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Speaker 2: it or against it, I of course am against it,
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Speaker 2: not because I think you're going to sit on your
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Speaker 2: sofa and a big fat do be. My concern is
24:38
Speaker 2: you're going to get on the road and drive, and
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Speaker 2: more vehicular homicides will occur because you're stoned.
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Speaker 3: What do you think about that, doctor Gallagher.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's very interesting. You should mention that, you know,
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Speaker 12: for every uh decedent or every victim that does not
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Speaker 12: survive that comes to the Medical Examiner's office as a
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Speaker 12: result of a car accident, we send the blood to
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Speaker 12: toxicology to see exactly what was in it. And you know,
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Speaker 12: marijuana has become so incredibly common in these accidents that
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Speaker 12: if in fact a blood sample comes back negative for marijuana,
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Speaker 12: I will call the toxicology company and ask them to
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Speaker 12: just run at one more time, you know, because nine
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Speaker 12: out of ten specimens do come back, you know, positive
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Speaker 12: for delta nine thhc, which is the active ingredient in marijuana.
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Speaker 2: And before you go back to your patients, Dot de
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Speaker 2: Gallagher answer, the same level of drug and an edible
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Speaker 2: as there would be in.
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Speaker 12: Pot cigarette difficult to say because of all the different
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Speaker 12: recipes and there's no standardization, you know, like they would
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Speaker 12: have in pharmacological things, you know. So and also there's
25:56
Speaker 12: different subtypes of marijuana. A lot of him have more
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Speaker 12: delta nine thc in them than another subspecies of it.
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Speaker 12: So it's just very difficult to say.
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Speaker 2: It's not like they've got a nutritional guide stuck on
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Speaker 2: the back of the edible about the calories and the
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Speaker 2: tea and the pot content. Guys, this woman, this soap
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Speaker 2: opera star, who wants us to know she'll be back
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Speaker 2: really soon from her luxury rehab. Haley pulos is by
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Speaker 2: far not the first is the name mel Gibson ring
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Speaker 2: a beail take listener cut.
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Speaker 15: Nine Thursday night, mel Gibson was arrested on the Pacific
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Speaker 15: Coast Highway with a bottle of tequila in his brand
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Speaker 15: new Lexus, and he was clocked at about eighty four
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Speaker 15: miles an hour in a forty five mile an hour zone.
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Speaker 15: According to the Sheriff's Department, was arrested without incident. We're
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Speaker 15: now finding out today that he not only leveled some
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Speaker 15: what it can only be conceived as or perceived as
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Speaker 15: what can only be perceived as anti semitic comments to
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Speaker 15: the officer, but also some pretty harassing, sexually harassing comments
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Speaker 15: to a female officer. So there's a lot more to
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Speaker 15: this story than meets the eye.
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Speaker 2: You were hearing our friends at Extra mel Gibson ranting
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Speaker 2: anti Semitic slurs and sex slurs. But take a listen
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Speaker 2: to our friends at ABC.
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Speaker 16: An angry rant caught on tape.
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Speaker 12: You were evocatively dressed all the time with your fake
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Speaker 12: books you feel you have to show up and tied
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Speaker 12: out of it.
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Speaker 16: And type pan celebrity site Radar Online reports mel Gibson
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Speaker 16: unaware he was being recorded, lashed out at his ex
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Speaker 16: girlfriend and the mother of his eight month old child,
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Speaker 16: Oxana Grigoryeva.
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Speaker 10: I'm just truth.
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Speaker 6: I don't like it.
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Speaker 17: I don't want that woman. I don't want you.
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Speaker 16: His comments allegedly get worse, turning to racial slurs, which
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Speaker 16: new reports say led to the William Morris Talent Agency
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Speaker 16: dropping Gibson. Gibson's people say the split was mutuell.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that was a fight with his girlfriend, the
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Speaker 2: mom of his child. The original bruhaha was about comments
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Speaker 2: he made while drunk driving. Of course, he's not the
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Speaker 2: only celebrity to misbehave and explode. It wouldn't be fair
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Speaker 2: not to manage mention. Alec Baldwin with it Are cut
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Speaker 2: thirteen from ABC, taking.
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Speaker 18: His public blowouts with the press to a whole new letter.
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Speaker 18: I'm trying to get into his car outside his New
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Speaker 18: York apartment on Friday with his wife and three month
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Speaker 18: old baby, The famously hot tempered actor got in the
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Speaker 18: face of a female New York TV reporter, whom his
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Speaker 18: wife says hit her in the face with a microphone
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Speaker 18: a day earlier.
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Speaker 3: You're the one that almost hit my wife with the
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Speaker 3: microphone in the face. I asked you a question. If
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Speaker 3: you want to apologize to it, I asked your question.
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Speaker 18: Still fuming, Baldwin rings over nearby comps, demanding they take
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Speaker 18: I do want to press.
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Speaker 3: Charges against her.
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Speaker 19: She assaulted my wife.
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Speaker 18: The ruckus didn't stop there, as Baldwin then bangs into
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Speaker 18: another car as he tries to leave his parking spot.
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Speaker 3: That's the tip of the iceberg right there.
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Speaker 2: But I want to get back to driving drunk and
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Speaker 2: bad celebrity behavior when they're already driving drunk and in
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Speaker 2: Pulos's case, two crashes sending one person to the hospital
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Speaker 2: that we know of with serious, serious injuries. Take a
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Speaker 2: listen to our friend Jim ray An inside edition the
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Speaker 2: now infamous incident regarding Heather Locklear.
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Speaker 3: Heather, how are you doing?
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Speaker 19: The turmoil continues for troubled actress Heather Locklear. The former
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Speaker 19: Melrose Play star, shielded her face with a hoodie today after.
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Speaker 3: Being busted yet again.
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Speaker 19: If you have any statement to make it all, miss Locklear.
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Speaker 19: Locklear allegedly struck a cop and a paramedic who were
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Speaker 19: responding to a nine to one one all out of
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Speaker 19: her home Sunday night.
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Speaker 18: She was extremely intoxicated, and at one point she actually
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Speaker 18: kicked a deputy, at which point she was arrested.
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Speaker 19: Blocklear was released after posting twenty thousand dollars bail. She
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Speaker 19: said nothing as she left jail with her attorney have
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Speaker 19: no profit. She was wearing flip flops and pajamas as
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Speaker 19: she headed to a car.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: You know, Cheryl McCollum, you mentioned earlier that very often
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Speaker 2: people behave when they're drunk the way that they secretly
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Speaker 2: want to behave. Why does everybody have to get drunk
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Speaker 2: and then attack the cop or, in Pulos's case, the firefighter.
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think at that point they can't
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Speaker 7: hide who they are because they're intoxicated. So again, when
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Speaker 7: you look at this behavior, it is a pattern they
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Speaker 7: teat over and over. This isn't the first time they've
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Speaker 7: been intoxicated, this isn't the first time they've driven drunk.
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Speaker 7: And Nancy, the reality of this crime is we lose
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Speaker 7: thirteen thousand people a year to you know, drunk driving
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Speaker 7: crashes that are one hundred percent preventable, And even during
31:21
Speaker 7: this episode of your show, one person will be killed
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Speaker 7: due to an alcohol related driving incident, and it's preventable
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Speaker 7: now that we have left.
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Speaker 9: We have Uber, we have.
31:33
Speaker 7: Taxis, we have Hey, here's an idea. Stay home. You know,
31:37
Speaker 7: you can drink all you want, you can party and
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Speaker 7: have the time of your life. Do not get behind
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Speaker 7: the wheel of a car, you know.
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Speaker 2: Jenn Smith joining me, Chief investigative reporter for Dailymail dot Com.
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Speaker 2: It really wouldn't be fair when we're talking about celebrities
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Speaker 2: that get drunk and have crashes, or celebrities feeding off
31:59
Speaker 2: their own stardom that believe they can mistreat all of us,
32:03
Speaker 2: just regular people.
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Speaker 3: Jen, take a listar cut nineteen.
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Speaker 7: Bro, why are you giving?
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Speaker 13: I write him an American?
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Speaker 20: You got me in my hotel regally in doing what sir?
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Speaker 20: Let's go, Joe, you really got this cuss on me heavy.
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Speaker 6: I'll let me.
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Speaker 9: Oh listen, can we talk me and you?
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Speaker 20: No, we can't talk and know this.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going America.
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Speaker 20: Okay, my taxes get me my arms.
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Speaker 14: So we're not gonna have a conversation.
32:34
Speaker 7: No, you don't put these off my arms or you beating.
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Speaker 2: You're hearing Shia and he's not done yet. Take a
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Speaker 2: litten our friends at.
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Speaker 20: AP you have president don't give it about you, and
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Speaker 20: you're stuck in a police force and don't give.
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Speaker 9: Me about you.
32:50
Speaker 20: So you want to rest white people who get who
32:53
Speaker 20: ask for cigarettes. I came up to you trying to be.
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Speaker 13: Nice, you stupid.
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Speaker 20: I came up with you asking for a cigarette. You
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Speaker 20: don't what would ask for a cigarette? If I was racing,
33:08
Speaker 20: I was asking for a cigarette. You said no, I
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Speaker 20: said words, and then you arrested me, you dumb me.
33:14
Speaker 20: They got cameras everywhere, you dummy. I got more millionaire
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Speaker 20: lawyers than you know what to do with you, stupid.
33:22
Speaker 20: I'm from it, you dummy.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well that's the way to get you a
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Speaker 2: cop on your side, to puss him out, call him stupid,
33:32
Speaker 2: Ja Smith, What is wrong with Shia Labus?
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Speaker 6: I mean, this is just the classic cases. Don't you
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Speaker 6: know who I am? And it's a thing we see
33:41
Speaker 6: constantly with celebrities Shia Labuff. Who knows what was going
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Speaker 6: on there? I mean quite clearly, that is a man
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Speaker 6: not in control of his faculties. But it's what we
33:51
Speaker 6: see time and time again. We've heard of Shilah buf
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Speaker 6: Alex Baldwyn, mel Gid Fellow, and that's in the last
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Speaker 6: five minutes of this conversation. They're kinds samples.
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Speaker 19: You know.
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Speaker 6: Is it because celebrities get to into a different stratus,
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Speaker 6: sphere of success and aderation and wealth, where they think
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Speaker 6: that they're above the law, potentially in situations like this
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Speaker 6: one involving Haley Pullos. The crime itself do UI is
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Speaker 6: tragically not a rare one. Do you as account for
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Speaker 6: thirty percent of all vehicle crashes in America. But the
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Speaker 6: difference here is when a celebrity is involved, they almost
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Speaker 6: seem to think that it can't possibly be their.
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Speaker 2: Fault or that somehow they it should be excused, like
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Speaker 2: in this case, the soap opera star Haley Pulos is
34:42
Speaker 2: instead of being behind bars at a rehab a so
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Speaker 2: called rehab in Malibu, they can cost her thirty grand
34:53
Speaker 2: You know. The guys you're just listening to, some of
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Speaker 2: them are technical legal term pos, these pieces of crap.
35:01
Speaker 2: But it's always a shocker when it's somebody you think
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Speaker 2: you really like. Take a listen to our cut six
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Speaker 2: from WSB.
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Speaker 21: It happened at this Walgreens. According to this police report,
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Speaker 21: Reese Witherspoon's husband was traveling northbound down Peatree Road when
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Speaker 21: he veered into another lane. This is where he was
35:21
Speaker 21: pulled over. But what happened after that? Even with the
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Speaker 21: growing film scene here in Metro Atlanta, as residents around
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Speaker 21: here surprised. According to this Department of Public Safety incident report,
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Speaker 21: actress Reese Witherspoon was a passenger. Her husband, Jim Toth,
35:37
Speaker 21: was the driver and suspected of duy when pulled over
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Speaker 21: twelve forty Friday morning. The report state's forty two year
35:43
Speaker 21: old Toth agreed to a field sobriety test and blew
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Speaker 21: a one point thirty nine on a breathalyzer. It was
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Speaker 21: Witherspoon's actions, though, during her husband's arrest, that landed her
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Speaker 21: behind bars.
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Speaker 3: Two oh yes, and we all love Reeze.
35:57
Speaker 2: Witherspoon. What got into her? I'd say, a couple of
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Speaker 2: glasses of wine. Take a listen, Raam, what do.
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Speaker 17: I say you to this? I like to know what's
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Speaker 17: playing on? Are going to risk if you don't give
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Speaker 17: a US citizen I am allowed to stand on American election.
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Speaker 17: I want to ask you better not arrest an American.
36:19
Speaker 17: End you get that car, there is beyond beyond you
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Speaker 17: part with me. Rapping, rapping, every nothing against a lot.
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Speaker 6: Yes, you have you there.
36:37
Speaker 9: Than your order.
36:41
Speaker 10: Nothing.
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Speaker 2: It brings to mind a friend of mine. He's dead now,
36:47
Speaker 2: Robert Crispin. Randy Schappany was a rookie cop. We would
36:52
Speaker 2: have coffee when he would show up for Grand Jewry
36:56
Speaker 2: and I was the APD. He would tell me all
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Speaker 2: about his wife, they just gotten married, and how they
37:03
Speaker 2: were starting a family, and how love he was. He
37:08
Speaker 2: did a routine traffic stop and you hear Witherspoon complaining,
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Speaker 2: why do I have to get in the car. Why
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Speaker 2: can't I stand here and argue with you? Well, the
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Speaker 2: guy that pulled over Chapane, grabbed a gun and shot
37:22
Speaker 2: him in the head dead. He said, license registration, and
37:25
Speaker 2: that's the last thing he ever said.
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Speaker 13: Sure, that happens a lot. And let me tell you something.
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Speaker 13: You know, the officer is just trying to control the scene.
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Speaker 13: And when people keep coming up and they're intoxicated and
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Speaker 13: they're trying to be aggressive and they're trying to they're
37:37
Speaker 13: diverting the attention of the officer for his safety, and
37:41
Speaker 13: he's turning his attention to the problem that just got
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Speaker 13: out of the car.
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Speaker 9: I get it's reeth Witherspoon.
37:48
Speaker 13: I get your celebrity, but unfortunately, bad things happen to people,
37:54
Speaker 13: and this is why she went to jail. Alcohol just
37:57
Speaker 13: brings out the worst behavior in everybody. And you see
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Speaker 13: it in every single one of these celebrities. They're all intoxicated.
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Speaker 3: That wasn't all of it. Listen to the rest.
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Speaker 17: I'm not being arrested. And you know my name, sir, don't.
38:13
Speaker 17: You don't need to know my name, not quite. You're
38:17
Speaker 17: a good can find out who I am. That's why
38:19
Speaker 17: I'm not really lying for you. But I'm told you
38:22
Speaker 17: how things work. You want to get out, get up
38:26
Speaker 17: to mom rest you guys. Episode, Let's try I do.
38:29
Speaker 17: We'll get to what we have anlt of that called
38:31
Speaker 17: the structure. I'm in your justice yep, really, I mean
38:36
Speaker 17: anti American?
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Speaker 14: Ye gods it down.
38:39
Speaker 17: Wow. So you've got personally at interesting.
38:43
Speaker 3: You know, it seems like it never ends with Reese Witherspoon.
38:48
Speaker 3: No one was hurt.
38:51
Speaker 2: And the case we're discussing right now, there were two
38:56
Speaker 2: crashes on the interstate. The one victim serious serious bodily injuries,
39:04
Speaker 2: and she is bitching out the fire people because she
39:09
Speaker 2: doesn't want them to somehow harm.
39:12
Speaker 3: Her four hundred dollars blouse. We wait as justice unfolds
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Speaker 3: Goodbye's wake,